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Subject: Intermittent speech

Intermittent speech

From: Graham Roby <g.roby_at_blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: 2005-07-02

Hi,
Wonder can anyone help.
For the past couple of days my Arcos recorder no longer speaks the file
names only the directory names. I.e I can scroll through my albbums/books
but when
I right arrow to open the tree nothing happens. Also when I go to recent
bookmarks I enter on the desired bookmark only to be taken to the root
directory
on the drive.
If I enter on a directory I'm invited to create a playlist and with a bit of
messing about I can get the relevant directory to play. Also the resume from
start up still works which is a god send.
Hope someone can help.
Regards
Graham Roby

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Today's Topics:

   1. irvier - thank you so much! (Fabian Merki)
   2. Re: irvier - thank you so much! (Tomas)
   3. Re: irvier - thank you so much! (Dave Chapman)
   4. Re: irvier - thank you so much! (Tomas)
   5. Re: irvier - thank you so much! (Andrew 'ashridah' Pilley)
   6. RE: irvier - thank you so much! (Mark Bright)
   7. Re: rockbox.org/doom - is it possible now? (Tomas)
   8. playback initialization (still) (Pedro Vasconcelos)
   9. question about charger (RaZorbacK)
  10. Re: crazy blinking red led (was: Rockbox Digest, Vol 17,
      Issue 10) (Manuel Dejonghe)
  11. Re: question about charger (Manuel Dejonghe)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:06:57 +0200
From: "Fabian Merki" <fabian2005@merkisoft.ch>
Subject: irvier - thank you so much!
To: <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <00ce01c56f47$3b427760$6402a8c0@fabi>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

hi irvier-hackers

i just wanted to say how much i appreciate the irvier port from you.

today i downloaded the daily-build and patched the firmware (wau - that was
easy!)

here my top three "things to do" (i won't do it - feel free to do it
*smile*)
- remote lcd + controlls (part of it works but not yet where it could be)
- fast forward with playback where you are (one thing that iriver does
better - sorry guys)
- wma playback (i'm too lazy to convert those file i got from "somewhere")

i noticed that the gapless playback isn't as good as on the archos (with
rockbox) - looks like it loses a few millisec of the next song (or skips to
early) - or mathematiclly spoken: the gap is minus x millisec ;-) (maybe
it's because i'm fastforwarding... who knows? - probably you do *smile*)

what about the plugins? i always get "I04:I11Instr at 32F4057A" (good that
the reset button works)

after using rockbox on iriver for a while (browsing through songs - also
playing 22kHz songs which sound funny *smile*) i already had it twice that
rockbox started to skip songs and didn't play any song anymore. a restart
did solve that issue.

i hope the money i sent almost a year ago helped and i'm looking forward
seeing new excellent features...

fabian

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:42:40 +0200
From: Tomas <tomas@salfischberger.nl>
Subject: Re: irvier - thank you so much!
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <42AC2DC0.5010602@salfischberger.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Fabian Merki wrote:

>here my top three "things to do" (i won't do it - feel free to do it
>*smile*)
>- remote lcd + controlls (part of it works but not yet where it could be)
>- fast forward with playback where you are (one thing that iriver does
>better - sorry guys)
>- wma playback (i'm too lazy to convert those file i got from "somewhere")
>
>
I'm working on the first one... buttons done last week... next week I'll
take a look at WPS info on the remote.

And WMA playback... I don't know how that's done with licensing?

>i noticed that the gapless playback isn't as good as on the archos (with
>rockbox) - looks like it loses a few millisec of the next song (or skips to
>early) - or mathematiclly spoken: the gap is minus x millisec ;-) (maybe
>it's because i'm fastforwarding... who knows? - probably you do *smile*)
>
>
Someone's working on that :)

>what about the plugins? i always get "I04:I11Instr at 32F4057A" (good that
>the reset button works)
>
>
Yes, that's because you're playing audio... The audio code uses parts of
the plugin system now. Linus is working on that.

>after using rockbox on iriver for a while (browsing through songs - also
>playing 22kHz songs which sound funny *smile*) i already had it twice that
>rockbox started to skip songs and didn't play any song anymore. a restart
>did solve that issue.
>
>
Please try to re-create the crash.. if you have a fixed point where it
always crashes, email the list, or come to IRC and give a bug report.
The more details the better.

Tomas

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:07:26 +0100
From: Dave Chapman <dave@dchapman.com>
Subject: Re: irvier - thank you so much!
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <42AC338E.7050305@dchapman.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Fabian Merki wrote:
> - wma playback (i'm too lazy to convert those file i got from
> "somewhere")

I'm sure this will become one of the most frequent FAQs - mainly because
existing iRiver users may well have collections of WMA files already on
their devices.

Obviously, Rockbox by its nature won't deal with any encrypted files (I
don't know if the iRiver firmware does?).

In theory, Rockbox could include support for unencrypted WMA files, but
the only open source WMA decoder uses floating-point maths. The
Coldfire processor on the iRiver doesn't have a floating-point unit, so
all floating point maths is "emulated" in software. Which means
decoding will be _really_ slow - i.e. not real-time.

The solution will be to rewrite the open source WMA decoder to use
integer or fixed-point maths, but no-one has (yet) shown any interest in
doing that.

If anyone is interested, the WMA decoder in question is part of the
"ffmpeg" library.

I may at some point try and integrate that decoder into Rockbox, as
motivation for someone to rewrite it, but obviously I want to work on
getting the existing codecs working properly first.

Dave.

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 15:32:25 +0200
From: Tomas <tomas@salfischberger.nl>
Subject: Re: irvier - thank you so much!
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <42AC3969.8010501@salfischberger.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Dave Chapman wrote:

>Obviously, Rockbox by its nature won't deal with any encrypted files (I
>don't know if the iRiver firmware does?).
>
>
It doesn't on H1xx

>The solution will be to rewrite the open source WMA decoder to use
>integer or fixed-point maths, but no-one has (yet) shown any interest in
>doing that.
>
>
I haven't done any codec development for rockbox before, but I've done
other things, and read a lot of playback code... so with some help I
think I can take a look at it.

>If anyone is interested, the WMA decoder in question is part of the
>"ffmpeg" library.
>
>
I have that :)

>I may at some point try and integrate that decoder into Rockbox, as
>motivation for someone to rewrite it, but obviously I want to work on
>getting the existing codecs working properly first.
>
>
That might be a good idea... as it would save me from learning rockbox
codecs to much :)

Tomas

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:46:20 +1000
From: "Andrew 'ashridah' Pilley" <ashridah@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: irvier - thank you so much!
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <1118583980.21381.34.camel@chitin.mycronite>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 14:07 +0100, Dave Chapman wrote:
> Fabian Merki wrote:
> > - wma playback (i'm too lazy to convert those file i got from
> > "somewhere")
>
> I'm sure this will become one of the most frequent FAQs - mainly because
> existing iRiver users may well have collections of WMA files already on
> their devices.
>
> Obviously, Rockbox by its nature won't deal with any encrypted files (I
> don't know if the iRiver firmware does?).

The H3x0 series can, with a firmware upgrade. the H1x0 series cannot. I
don't know if this is a deficiency of the hardware (the lack of usb2go
would be about the only difference that could have an effect like this,
afaik), or if it's just something iriver want to be able to push newer
units with.

Pity protected WMA9 specs don't appear to be included in the stuff the
EU commission are trying to get opened up. Of course, MS are fighting
tooth and nail to prevent open-source from being able to use ANY specs
they release.

> If anyone is interested, the WMA decoder in question is part of the
> "ffmpeg" library.
>
> I may at some point try and integrate that decoder into Rockbox, as
> motivation for someone to rewrite it, but obviously I want to work on
> getting the existing codecs working properly first.

After all, one could just reencode the files as FLAC, and at least, not
suffer any MORE loss :). There are some ways (unfortunately, potentially
lossy unless you're using digital the entire way) to do this with even
protected wma's. and sometimes you get the chance to burn it to cd, at
which point, the game is practically over.

Andrew

>
> Dave.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:02:00 +0100
From: "Mark Bright" <mark@redbreva.co.uk>
Subject: RE: irvier - thank you so much!
To: "'Rockbox development'" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <0ML29c-1DhTyT2NSU-0004kw@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

|-----Original Message-----
|From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se
|[mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se] On Behalf Of Tomas
|Sent: 12 June 2005 14:32
|To: Rockbox development
|Subject: Re: irvier - thank you so much!
|
|Dave Chapman wrote:
|
|>Obviously, Rockbox by its nature won't deal with any
|encrypted files (I
|>don't know if the iRiver firmware does?).
|>
|>
|It doesn't on H1xx

Isn't that the main difference between the US & EU versions of the firmware
- supprt for DRM in WMA With it's PlaysForSure logo?... On the other hand I
may have dreamt it!!

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:24:55 +0200
From: Tomas <tomas@salfischberger.nl>
Subject: Re: rockbox.org/doom - is it possible now?
To: Joseph Jones <bumpycarrot@gmail.com>, Rockbox development
<rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <42AC61D7.7090908@salfischberger.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hm... they have doom running on ipod linux... so we might be able to do
it too :)
Here's a link to the doom version ported to nano-X for ipod:
http://www.coob.org/nxdoom-ipl.tar.gz

Maybe some people can take a look at it, and decide if it's possible to
get it working?
I don't know how to do these things, but if someone sets up some guide
lines, and a start... I might be able to help.

Tomas

Joseph Jones wrote:

>Seeing as you can render Quake 2 on anything that'll display ASCII
>text, a grayscale bitmap screen shouldn't pose a problem ;)
>
>However, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
>
>Joe
>
>On 6/9/05, Ronald Teune <rtwolf@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>last week I bought a second hand camera, a HP 912. Don't understand why
>>some people buy new digital cameras, because second hand == dirt cheap...
>>but hey, don't understand either why people buy iPods.
>>anyways, this camera contains a Coldfire processor and... it runs doom :-P
>>See this page: http://digita.mame.net/download.htm
>>So, it's already compilable (is that a word?) for a coldfire platform,
>>runs smooth at 90 MHz, but it's for a color screen.
>>Just wanted to bring it to your attention.
>>now if i only had an iriver ;-)
>>
>>Ronald
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:30:49 +0100
From: Pedro Vasconcelos <pbv@st-andrews.ac.uk>
Subject: playback initialization (still)
To: rockbox@cool.haxx.se
Message-ID: <20050612203049.764fd7b4.pbv@st-andrews.ac.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi everyone,

I still experience the very annoying bug of having to boot the iRiver fw
before I can get any playback on Rockbox. If i just boot straight into
Rockbox I can browse files but can't play them. I don't even get any
WPS, just a blank screen. Every time I turn on my ihp-120 I have to
first boot the iRiver fw, turn off, and imediately boot Rockbox (btw,
when I do it this way I get a reassuring "thumb" on the headphones when
Rockbox boots, otherwise just silence).

I suspect there is some audio initialization that is not being done
correctly but that this is only aparent in some batch of players.

Linus has replied that I can't reproduce this on his H140, but what
about other people? I wanted to figure out if there is a pattern here,
i.e. is it only ihp-120s or is it player bought in specific batch?

Mine is a iHP-120, bought about 1.5 years ago in the UK, barcode
503340040300220. I'm using fw 1.65US patched with booloader 2.

My idea to collect data from people who experience this problem to try
to identify what causes it and possibly correct it.

Thanks,

Pedro

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:06:15 +0200
From: "RaZorbacK" <lists_en@sofquipeut.net>
Subject: question about charger
To: rockbox@cool.haxx.se
Message-ID: <200506122206150437.020810E6@smtp.free.fr>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

hi,
I've just got a recorder 20 after having worked with a jukebox player. I'd
like to know if I could use my old charger with my new jbr 20 without any
problems?
the two chargers seem to be the same but I don't want to use it without
confirmation.
thanks in advance,

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:22:08 +0200
From: Manuel Dejonghe <limbus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: crazy blinking red led (was: Rockbox Digest, Vol 17,
Issue 10)
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <9e4313e105061214226af28555@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

just stumbled over it:

newmp3technology.net

see this page for a picture of such a customized battery:
http://www.newmp3technology.com/proddetail.php?prod=mb&cat=2

Manuel

On 6/7/05, Manuel Dejonghe <limbus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/7/05, "Frederik Möllers" <frederik.moellers@gmx.de> wrote:
> > The red LED is most probably blinking because Rockbox tries to read the
> > disk
> > but isn't able to... And since your batteries don't work as good as
> > they're
> > supposed to be, you will be forced to exchange them. But what keeps you
> > from
> > taking them out? I don't have an FM but I'm pretty sure that you can
> > exchange the batteries of an FM without voiding the warranty...
>
> Nope, the batteries in the FMRec is a custom accumulator.
> "Hohlraumakku" in German. It's possibly a matter of voided guarantee,
> but far more important is that it isn't a standard-size. There was
> this (french) web shop that is selling those parts (as well as the
> displays) but I can't remember the url.
>
> Manuel
>

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:23:52 +0200
From: Manuel Dejonghe <limbus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: question about charger
To: Rockbox development <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <9e4313e10506121423488454c9@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 6/12/05, RaZorbacK <lists_en@sofquipeut.net> wrote:
> hi,
> I've just got a recorder 20 after having worked with a jukebox player. I'd
> like to know if I could use my old charger with my new jbr 20 without any
> problems?
> the two chargers seem to be the same but I don't want to use it without
> confirmation.
> thanks in advance,

Device Comparison Chart looks like...

manuel

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