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Subject: Re: GUI

Re: GUI

From: Glenn at home <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 08:03:20 -0600

My opinion is that, What I wish to do with my iRiver has to do with the
files on the device.
So to show the files is exactly where I need to be in the system.
I move to the folder, and/or the playlist, and play.
This concept seems most intuitive to me.
i.e., just the way it is now.
IMHO.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabriel Meier" <gabriel.meier_at_gmx.de>
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: GUI


Am Freitag, den 03.03.2006, 13:19 +0100 schrieb Daniel Stenberg:
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Gabriel Meier wrote:
>
> > does anybody know, if there are any plans for making a proper gui?
>
> First, developers that might work on such a thing might be reading the dev
> mailing list and not the users list...

I know, but the actual purpose of this mail was to find out, if there
are any other users, that are interested in a gui. There will be no need
to ask developers about it if I am the only one interested.

> I think "a proper gui" needs a whole lot of definition. I don't think
> "proper
> GUI" is an objective way of describing a specific vision of a GUI. What
> you
> may consider proper, someone else might consider crap.

This is exactly why I created this thread - to find out what others
think.

> > I think usability is something that would help roxbock to beat iriver in
> > every respect.
>
> An by "beat" you mean "look better" ?

You know the difference between look and usability? Usability is about a
way to do what you want ths easiest, perhaps fastest and most intuitive
way, fitting the needs to as many users as possible. this has not so
much to do with look, but some nice icons might e.g. help you to find
the menu you need faster. anyway, look might (I think should) be
customizable.

> I personally cannot and have never understood how any sane person can say
> that
> iriver's firmware is better, easier or more user-friendly than Rockbox. I
> couldn't understand it while I used it. Luckily those days are passed
> tense
> now.

There are some few things the iriver firmware does better or at least
does, rockbox doesn't. Anyway, I agree, roxbox is as a whole much
better, and I haven't used iriver's for a while now.

> (I mention this just to put some perspective on the subject, I realize
> we're
> not all the same.)
>
> > When I switch my iriver on, I don't want to see the file-structure of
> > the disc, but want to have a choice on what to to
>
> I don't.

OK.

> > This could be made with a text-interface as well, but a gui would put
> > the finishing touches.
>
> When you go pondering further on this subject I only want you to remember
> a
> few things:
>
> * custom language strings
> * custom font
> * speach (i.e "talking menus")
> * various LCD sizes
> * various LCD depths

This would be a matter of programming. I guess this should all be
possible, but unfortunately I can't do this. Best would be an interface
on which users could create their own look, as it is possible for the
playback screen now. with a large choice of themes LCD properties should
be no problem.

> When you cover them and bring a nice eye-candy GUI at the same time, I bet
> many users will support it.

First, I hope I will find some developer to support this, as I will
create a feature request out of this, if anyone else is interested. It
will be up to the developers to accept or deny...

> (I also better point out that these are *MY* opinions and I do not speak
> for
> anyone else.)

This thread was intended to be about opinions...
Received on 2006-03-04

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