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Subject: RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39

RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39

From: Alex Gibbons <alex_at_gibbons81.fsnet.co.uk>
Date: 2006-03-20

Hi there, I am a blinduser who is completey confused about the software on
the ipod video I would like to know what is going on and how well the
software works with the atual menus on the ipod video, and how they interact
with the video side and games side I do not want to fork out a good sum of
money on a 60g ipod until I know it all works if anyone on the message bord
could get back to me asp that would be great

From

Alex gibbons

alex@gibbons81.fsnet.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 20 March 2006 07:54
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Subject: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39

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Today's Topics:

   1. GUI (Gabriel Meier)
   2. 320kbps MP3 'noisy' (George Michaelson)
   3. Re: Voicing Menus on Ipod (Ronald Teune)
   4. Re: 320kbps MP3 'noisy' (Dave Hooper)
   5. Re: 320kbps MP3 'noisy' (George Michaelson)
   6. Problem with iRiver H300 (Rainer Jost)
   7. RE: Voicing Menus on Ipod (Barrett, Don)
   8. Re: Problem with iRiver H300 (James Teh)
   9. Re: Voicing Menus on Ipod (Grant Hardy)
  10. error when playing on the ipod (Barrett, Don)
  11. A Devcon 2006 Story (Daniel Stenberg)
  12. Re: A Devcon 2006 Story (Rocker)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:53:50 +0100
From: Gabriel Meier <gabriel.meier@gmx.de>
Subject: GUI
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <1142776430.8632.7.camel@gmeiers>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Please comment my propositions for a rework of the rockbox menus and
iriver key mapping:

http://home.arcor.de/gabriel.meier/temp/rockboxmenu.html

look here, if you didn't follow this thread up to now.

http://home.arcor.de/gabriel.meier/temp/rockboxsuggestions.html

Gabriel
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:09:13 +0000
From: George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net>
Subject: 320kbps MP3 'noisy'
To: rockbox@cool.haxx.se
Message-ID: <20060319170913.4466fff5@garlique>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

I think my rockbox is having problems with 320kbps MP3. -I have some
which cause a very odd noise on one channel, like pre-read of some data
or something (very like burn-through on a cassette left in the sun!)

in the same runstate, 128/192 play fine.

OK, so it could be encoding artifacts. Is that more plausible or is it
likely that an old v1 recorder 2m cannot keep up with high bitrate MP3?

I'm on a recent battery-fix binary btw.

-G

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:15:44 +0100
From: Ronald Teune <rtwolf@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Voicing Menus on Ipod
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <200603191915.44458.rtwolf@gmx.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Or download tomorrow's daily build...

quote from the cvs messages: Voice working on the iPods.

Ronald

On Saturday 18 March 2006 23:57, Ronald Teune <Ronald Teune
<rtwolf@gmx.net>>
wrote:
> Just wait until it's announced on this list...
>
> Ronald
>
> On Saturday 18 March 2006 17:03, Barrett, Don <"Barrett, Don"
>
> <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>> wrote:
> > Thanks Jamie; I bought the Ipod based on the notion that the voicing
> > would work. I hope it happens soon. Is there any way to find out?
> >
> > Thanks much.
> >
> > Don

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:35:33 -0000
From: "Dave Hooper" <dave@beermex.com>
Subject: Re: 320kbps MP3 'noisy'
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <001a01c64b83$eb539440$8200a8c0@SLAPTOP>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

It makes sense to do a quick and easy test to see if it's encoding artifacts

first: do these same MP3s play fine on your PC? The exact same files,
that is (i.e. plug your archos into your PC, copy the files across, and
play them on your PC using Winamp, Windows Media Player, etc).

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Michaelson" <ggm@apnic.net>
To: <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:09 PM
Subject: 320kbps MP3 'noisy'

>
> I think my rockbox is having problems with 320kbps MP3. -I have some
> which cause a very odd noise on one channel, like pre-read of some data
> or something (very like burn-through on a cassette left in the sun!)
>
> in the same runstate, 128/192 play fine.
>
> OK, so it could be encoding artifacts. Is that more plausible or is it
> likely that an old v1 recorder 2m cannot keep up with high bitrate MP3?
>
> I'm on a recent battery-fix binary btw.
>
> -G
>

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:45:12 +0000
From: George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net>
Subject: Re: 320kbps MP3 'noisy'
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <20060319184512.3730b2a9@garlique>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:35:33 -0000
"Dave Hooper" <dave@beermex.com> wrote:

> It makes sense to do a quick and easy test to see if it's encoding
> artifacts first: do these same MP3s play fine on your PC? The
> exact same files, that is (i.e. plug your archos into your PC, copy
> the files across, and play them on your PC using Winamp, Windows
> Media Player, etc).
>

I'll do that. good suggestion. If they do play clean, then logically
I'd also try a re-encode at a lower bitrate.

-George
>

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:32:04 +0100
From: "Rainer Jost" <rainer-jost@t-online.de>
Subject: Problem with iRiver H300
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <002d01c64b94$2f761a70$2002a8c0@Computerzimmer>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

Hi guys,
I have the following problem with my iRiver H340.
When I start the player it always go to the record-mode. But I don't want to

start the player all time with record-mode. What mI must do for starting the

plyer in the normal ply-mode?
Thanks for Your help
Rainer

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:26:07 -0500
From: "Barrett, Don" <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>
Subject: RE: Voicing Menus on Ipod
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID:
        <4313AD4429551F4595A8A414A660C75F06865580@wdcrobe2m05.ed.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Ron, sounds like it will be working tomorrow. Awesome and thanks.

Don
 

-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se]
On Behalf Of Ronald Teune
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:16 PM
To: Rockbox
Subject: Re: Voicing Menus on Ipod

Or download tomorrow's daily build...

quote from the cvs messages: Voice working on the iPods.

Ronald

On Saturday 18 March 2006 23:57, Ronald Teune <Ronald Teune
<rtwolf@gmx.net>>
wrote:
> Just wait until it's announced on this list...
>
> Ronald
>
> On Saturday 18 March 2006 17:03, Barrett, Don <"Barrett, Don"
>
> <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>> wrote:
> > Thanks Jamie; I bought the Ipod based on the notion that the voicing

> > would work. I hope it happens soon. Is there any way to find out?
> >
> > Thanks much.
> >
> > Don

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:48:29 +1000
From: James Teh <jamie@jantrid.net>
Subject: Re: Problem with iRiver H300
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <20060320004828.GA19071@edenia.qld.optushome.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Sounds like you accidentally enabled this. You can find it under
Menu->Recording->Recording settings->Show recording screen on startup.
Set it to no (or is that off? Can't remember).

Jamie

On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 09:32:04PM +0100, Rainer Jost wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have the following problem with my iRiver H340.
> When I start the player it always go to the record-mode. But I don't want
to start the player all time with record-mode. What mI
> must do for starting the plyer in the normal ply-mode?
> Thanks for Your help

-- 
James Teh
Email: jamie@jantrid.net
WWW: http://www.jantrid.net/jamie/
MSN Messenger: jamie@jantrid.net
Jabber: jteh@jabber.org
Yahoo: jcs_teh
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:08:24 -0800
From: "Grant Hardy" <granthardy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Voicing Menus on Ipod
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <002701c64bcb$8f6df470$6500a8c0@GRANT>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original
Please let the rest of us know when you tried it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barrett, Don" <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: Voicing Menus on Ipod
> Ron, sounds like it will be working tomorrow.  Awesome and thanks.
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se]
> On Behalf Of Ronald Teune
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:16 PM
> To: Rockbox
> Subject: Re: Voicing Menus on Ipod
> 
> Or download tomorrow's daily build...
> 
> quote from the cvs messages: Voice working on the iPods.
> 
> Ronald
> 
> On Saturday 18 March 2006 23:57, Ronald Teune <Ronald Teune
> <rtwolf@gmx.net>>
> wrote:
>> Just wait until it's announced on this list...
>>
>> Ronald
>>
>> On Saturday 18 March 2006 17:03, Barrett, Don <"Barrett, Don"
>>
>> <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>> wrote:
>> > Thanks Jamie; I bought the Ipod based on the notion that the voicing
> 
>> > would work.  I hope it happens soon.  Is there any way to find out?
>> >
>> > Thanks much.
>> >
>> > Don
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:40:59 -0500
From: "Barrett, Don" <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>
Subject: error when playing on the ipod
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID:
	<4313AD4429551F4595A8A414A660C75F06865581@wdcrobe2m05.ed.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
My wife was helping me try to play a song using Rockbox.  When she
selected the song and hit play, we got the error message "prefetch abort
at deadbeee"
Can anyone kindly advise.  This is on an Ipod video30.
Don Barrett
------------------------------
Message: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:49:14 +0100 (CET)
From: Daniel Stenberg <daniel@rockbox.org>
Subject: A Devcon 2006 Story
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Cc: Rockbox Development <rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603192347510.8830@yvahk3.pbagnpgbe.fr>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hey folks
I just wanted to mention that you guys that didn't manage to come to the 
devcon really missed a great event!
Not only did we have a great time socializing and actually meating the
persons 
behind the nicks and names we've been seeing online for years, we also
managed 
to discuss and deal with _all_ items on the agenda, and most of them with a 
great and at least in my view satisfactory outcome.
I'm absolutely certain that users and other devs will see and appreciate the
outcome from this, not the least in things like the already in-progress work
on a 3.0 release. (Yes, we should do some kind of "summary" of all the talks
of the agenda items and publish.)
Random Memorable Happenings:
- Christi and Brandon arriving several hours late after a having got off at
   the wrong bus stop, taken the subway and gotten off at the wrong station
   etc etc...
- The "What are you sinking about" commercial
- The massive interest for our webcam on IRC and elsewhere. It help us feel
   almost like #rockbox were with us there.
Thanks and credits go to:
- everyone who has donated money to the project, as we used some of
   these funds for drinks, snacks and food during the devcon. Please
continue
   donating for the benefit of the project so that we can continue to
support
   and sponsor development-related activities.
- Jens, J?rg, Christi and Brandon for being devoted enough to cross country
   borders to come here.
- Contactor for letting us use the offices that served as a pretty neat
   surrounding, with a fine network, webcam, printer, conference room,
coffee
   machine and even space and sofas for sleeping.
- Haxx donated the shirts. And before asking, we still have not quite
decided
   on how to proceed with the remainders of the shirts we have. I'm open for
   interesting suggestions.
Some thoughts for Devcon 2007:
- We should probably set a date even earlier than this year to allow people
to
   plan for devcon even longer in advance.
- We should prepare for the food situation slightly better, at least if
we'll
   be situated at the same place or in a similar surrounding. We did have
   to resort to backup plans several times...
-- 
  Daniel Stenberg
  A Devcon 2006 Organizer
------------------------------
Message: 12
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:54:08 -0700
From: Rocker <rocker@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: A Devcon 2006 Story
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <000601c64bf3$77a33a80$344f9444@kbab2711313c64>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Rock on dudes!
Sounds like a great time was had by all.  Keep up the great work and I hope 
some of us users brought smiles to your face during the weekend.
rocker
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Stenberg" <daniel@rockbox.org>
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Cc: "Rockbox Development" <rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:49 PM
Subject: A Devcon 2006 Story
Hey folks
I just wanted to mention that you guys that didn't manage to come to the
devcon really missed a great event!
Not only did we have a great time socializing and actually meating the 
persons
behind the nicks and names we've been seeing online for years, we also 
managed
to discuss and deal with _all_ items on the agenda, and most of them with a
great and at least in my view satisfactory outcome.
I'm absolutely certain that users and other devs will see and appreciate the
outcome from this, not the least in things like the already in-progress work
on a 3.0 release. (Yes, we should do some kind of "summary" of all the talks
of the agenda items and publish.)
Random Memorable Happenings:
- Christi and Brandon arriving several hours late after a having got off at
   the wrong bus stop, taken the subway and gotten off at the wrong station
   etc etc...
- The "What are you sinking about" commercial
- The massive interest for our webcam on IRC and elsewhere. It help us feel
   almost like #rockbox were with us there.
Thanks and credits go to:
- everyone who has donated money to the project, as we used some of
   these funds for drinks, snacks and food during the devcon. Please 
continue
   donating for the benefit of the project so that we can continue to 
support
   and sponsor development-related activities.
- Jens, J?rg, Christi and Brandon for being devoted enough to cross country
   borders to come here.
- Contactor for letting us use the offices that served as a pretty neat
   surrounding, with a fine network, webcam, printer, conference room, 
coffee
   machine and even space and sofas for sleeping.
- Haxx donated the shirts. And before asking, we still have not quite 
decided
   on how to proceed with the remainders of the shirts we have. I'm open for
   interesting suggestions.
Some thoughts for Devcon 2007:
- We should probably set a date even earlier than this year to allow people 
to
   plan for devcon even longer in advance.
- We should prepare for the food situation slightly better, at least if 
we'll
   be situated at the same place or in a similar surrounding. We did have
   to resort to backup plans several times...
-- 
  Daniel Stenberg
  A Devcon 2006 Organizer
------------------------------
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