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Subject: RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43

RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43

From: Alex Gibbons <alex_at_gibbons81.fsnet.co.uk>
Date: 2006-03-21

Hi there

Yes I can understand that you have helped a lot of people with your
developments in software for blind and parshley sighted users, but the idea
that we can hust symplie turn off the firmweare and go back to the ipod
firmweare is laughfull, the trackwheel on the ipod is over sensitive, and
with one faulse move a blind user could wipe out his whole playlists which
have taken months to put together. Why is rock box not using a form of
platform like apple osx or windows for the codding so that we blind or
arshley sighted user can take full advantage of there ipod videos. We want
to be able to have as much fun with our ipods as you sighted users. The
second thing that really get my goat is this angle that you say that rock
box is also for sighted users, but do you know anyone who is sighted who
uses it most people who are sighted would just go out and buy an ipod or
other mp3 players. It is us specal coumity who need a methord of using our
mp3s because of our sight issues

From

Alex gibbons

alex@gibbons81.fsnet.co.uk

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Subject: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 43

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   1. Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39 (Rocker)
   2. Re: iRiver h320 and h340 (Rocker)
   3. Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39 (Michael E. DiFebbo)
   4. Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39 (James Teh)
   5. RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39 (Barrett, Don)
   6. Re: Problem with iRiver H300 (Rainer Jost)
   7. Question about play FM in Stereo on my iRiver H340 (Rainer Jost)
   8. RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39 (Barrett, Don)
   9. Re: A Devcon 2006 Story (Christoph Niedeggen)
  10. Please Clarify (Barrett, Don)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:16:58 -0700
From: Rocker <rocker@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <007101c64c42$188bb780$344f9444@kbab2711313c64>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi,

Rockbox is for everyone who desires a superior firmware on their MP3
players. The fact that it has some voice capability benefits the blind but
it also benefits the sighted as well. Blind people are pumped up because
hardware and software solutions targeted for the blind are vastly more
expensive and usually don't offer the features that rockbox provides. Just
the same for the sighted as well.

rocker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barrett, Don" <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39

This brings up the question that I was asked. Is the Rockbox project
for the blind or is it for everyone and the blind just happen to also
benefit. The individual who asked me thought that Rockbox was primarily
established to assist the blind MP3 player user, but I didn't think that
was the case.

Don Barrett
Section 508 Coordinator
U.S. Department of Education
(202)-205-8245
don.barrett@ed.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se]
On Behalf Of Michael E. DiFebbo
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:02 PM
To: Rockbox
Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39

Alex Gibbons wrote:
> hi there
>
> thanks to everone who answeed my question, but I have a further
> question what is the point of having the software on the ipod video
> when it does not play video, I am a parshely sighted person who wants
> to be able to take full
>
If you want to watch video, you can simply boot to the iPod firmware.
The point of having Rockbox on the iPod is that it is vastly superior to
the iPod firmware with respect to playing audio. It also allows you to
use the iPod as a UMS device without being tied to iTunes.

As to the fact that Rockbox doesn't support video on the iPod, be
patient. Preglow and Linuxstb have worked pretty damn hard getting
Rockbox ported to iPod in the first place. You can't expect everything
at once.

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:24:12 -0700
From: Rocker <rocker@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: iRiver h320 and h340
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <007501c64c43$1b35fa80$344f9444@kbab2711313c64>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi,
How long ago did you buy? can't seem to find either on the sight. Do you
have a direct URL?

Cheers...rocker

----- Original Message -----
From: "brian_dalton" <brian_dalton@eircom.net>
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: iRiver h320 and h340

Hi,

I baught my iriver h340 from
www.advancedmp3players.co.uk

i live outside the uk and they charged me five pounds for delivery.

Brian.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tore Johnny Br?tveit" <tjb@broadpark.no>
To: <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:46 PM
Subject: iRiver h320 and h340

> Hello,
>
> Sorry for this somewhat off topic message. I came across Rockbox on the
net a
> couple of days ago, after having heard about a mp3 player, fully
accessible for
> visually impaired people. It turned out that the player, Milestone 311
mp3,
> was overpriced and lacked several of the basic features, so I began
searching
> around for alternatives.
>
> Rockbox seems like a great project. My problem now is that it seems like
many
> of the mp3 players which Rockbox supports, are no longer available.
>
> Especially I would like to get hold of one or two iRiver 3xx players, but
they
> are not possible to get anymore here in Norway. Could anyone please give
me
> some directions to where I still can buy these players?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tore Johnny
>
>
> --
> Tore Johnny Br?tveit
> E-post/E-mail: tjb@broadpark.no
> Hjemmeside/Homepage: www.braatveit.net
>

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:28:08 -0500
From: "Michael E. DiFebbo" <medifebbo@rcn.com>
Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <441EE628.8020303@rcn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

There is a FAQ for blind users that is somewhat dated, but at least
touches on answers to some of your questions:
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BlindFAQ. I would
characterize Rockbox's accessibility to the blind as a significant goal
of the project, though not the only goal. As the FAQ indicates, "The
Rockbox team are justifiably proud of Rockbox's role in making ... the
vast majority of its features accessible to the blind ..."

Barrett, Don wrote:
> This brings up the question that I was asked. Is the Rockbox project
> for the blind or is it for everyone and the blind just happen to also
> benefit. The individual who asked me thought that Rockbox was primarily
> established to assist the blind MP3 player user, but I didn't think that
> was the case.
>
>
> Don Barrett
> Section 508 Coordinator
> U.S. Department of Education
> (202)-205-8245
> don.barrett@ed.gov
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se]
> On Behalf Of Michael E. DiFebbo
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:02 PM
> To: Rockbox
> Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
>
> Alex Gibbons wrote:
>
>> hi there
>>
>> thanks to everone who answeed my question, but I have a further
>> question what is the point of having the software on the ipod video
>> when it does not play video, I am a parshely sighted person who wants
>> to be able to take full
>>
>>
> If you want to watch video, you can simply boot to the iPod firmware.
> The point of having Rockbox on the iPod is that it is vastly superior to
> the iPod firmware with respect to playing audio. It also allows you to
> use the iPod as a UMS device without being tied to iTunes.
>
> As to the fact that Rockbox doesn't support video on the iPod, be
> patient. Preglow and Linuxstb have worked pretty damn hard getting
> Rockbox ported to iPod in the first place. You can't expect everything
> at once.
>
>
>
>

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:23:20 +1000
From: James Teh <jamie@jantrid.net>
Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <20060320182319.GA23036@edenia.qld.optushome.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

The latter - the Rockbox project is for everyone and the blind just happened
to
benefit thanks to some very nice developers. :)

Jamie

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 12:09:33PM -0500, Barrett, Don wrote:
> This brings up the question that I was asked. Is the Rockbox project
> for the blind or is it for everyone and the blind just happen to also
> benefit. The individual who asked me thought that Rockbox was primarily
> established to assist the blind MP3 player user, but I didn't think that
> was the case.
>
>
> Don Barrett
> Section 508 Coordinator
> U.S. Department of Education
> (202)-205-8245
> don.barrett@ed.gov

-- 
James Teh
Email: jamie@jantrid.net
WWW: http://www.jantrid.net/jamie/
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Jabber: jteh@jabber.org
Yahoo: jcs_teh
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:35:17 -0500
From: "Barrett, Don" <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>
Subject: RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID:
	<4313AD4429551F4595A8A414A660C75F079E18FB@wdcrobe2m05.ed.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
Yes, very, very nice!!!!!!!! 
Don Barrett
Section 508 Coordinator
U.S. Department of Education
(202)-205-8245
don.barrett@ed.gov
-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se]
On Behalf Of James Teh
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Rockbox
Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
The latter - the Rockbox project is for everyone and the blind just
happened to benefit thanks to some very nice developers. :)
Jamie
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 12:09:33PM -0500, Barrett, Don wrote:
> This brings up the question that I was asked.  Is the Rockbox project 
> for the blind or is it for everyone and the blind just happen to also 
> benefit.  The individual who asked me thought that Rockbox was 
> primarily established to assist the blind MP3 player user, but I 
> didn't think that was the case.
> 
> 
> Don Barrett
> Section 508 Coordinator
> U.S. Department of Education
> (202)-205-8245
> don.barrett@ed.gov
--
James Teh
Email: jamie@jantrid.net
WWW: http://www.jantrid.net/jamie/
MSN Messenger: jamie@jantrid.net
Jabber: jteh@jabber.org
Yahoo: jcs_teh
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:03:09 +0100
From: "Rainer Jost" <rainer-jost@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: Problem with iRiver H300
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <015701c64c50$eddd3630$2002a8c0@Computerzimmer>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original
Hi Jamie,
it is off.
Thanks for Your help.
Rainer
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:05:46 +0100
From: "Rainer Jost" <rainer-jost@t-online.de>
Subject: Question about play FM in Stereo on my iRiver H340
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <016701c64c51$4d985a50$2002a8c0@Computerzimmer>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original
Hi guys,
my iRiver H340 is only playing in mono. What can I do to hear FM in stereo.
Thanks for Your help
Rainer
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:45:45 -0500
From: "Barrett, Don" <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>
Subject: RE: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID:
	<4313AD4429551F4595A8A414A660C75F079E1902@wdcrobe2m05.ed.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
Thanks Mike; very helpful. 
Don Barrett
Section 508 Coordinator
U.S. Department of Education
(202)-205-8245
don.barrett@ed.gov
-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se]
On Behalf Of Michael E. DiFebbo
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:28 PM
To: Rockbox
Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
There is a FAQ for blind users that is somewhat dated, but at least
touches on answers to some of your questions: 
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BlindFAQ.  I would
characterize Rockbox's accessibility to the blind as a significant goal
of the project, though not the only goal.  As the FAQ indicates, "The
Rockbox team are justifiably proud of Rockbox's role in making ... the
vast majority of its features accessible to the blind ..."
Barrett, Don wrote:
> This brings up the question that I was asked.  Is the Rockbox project 
> for the blind or is it for everyone and the blind just happen to also 
> benefit.  The individual who asked me thought that Rockbox was 
> primarily established to assist the blind MP3 player user, but I 
> didn't think that was the case.
>
>
> Don Barrett
> Section 508 Coordinator
> U.S. Department of Education
> (202)-205-8245
> don.barrett@ed.gov
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se 
> [mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se]
> On Behalf Of Michael E. DiFebbo
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:02 PM
> To: Rockbox
> Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
>
> Alex Gibbons wrote:
>   
>> hi there
>>
>> thanks to everone who answeed my question, but I have a further 
>> question what is the point of having the software on the ipod video 
>> when it does not play video, I am a parshely sighted person who wants
>> to be able to take full
>>   
>>     
> If you want to watch video, you can simply boot to the iPod firmware.
> The point of having Rockbox on the iPod is that it is vastly superior 
> to the iPod firmware with respect to playing audio.  It also allows 
> you to use the iPod as a UMS device without being tied to iTunes.
>
> As to the fact that Rockbox doesn't support video on the iPod, be 
> patient.  Preglow and Linuxstb have worked pretty damn hard getting 
> Rockbox ported to iPod in the first place.  You can't expect 
> everything at once.
>
>
>
>   
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:58:41 +0100
From: Christoph Niedeggen <Niedeggen@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: A Devcon 2006 Story
To: rockbox@cool.haxx.se
Cc: rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se
Message-ID: <dvn8hh$576$1@sea.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Devcon participants,
it's nice to hear that you had a great time at the Devcon 2006! At least 
we could watch this event on the webcam (and see what we missed!)
Daniel wrote that you might do some kind of summary of all the talks of 
the agenda items and publish it. That would be really interesting to 
read to the rest of us!!
> we also managed to discuss and deal with _all_ items on the agenda, and 
> most of them with a great and at least in my view satisfactory outcome.
I'm especially interested in the first topic on the agenda for the 
Archos: "PCM codec, recording framewalker, perhaps playback framewalker, 
late bitswap"
What's the outcome for this? Can we hope for an implementation of the 
PCM codec in the next future?
Thanks for your effort and commitment,
Christoph
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:14:04 -0500
From: "Barrett, Don" <Don.Barrett@ed.gov>
Subject: Please Clarify
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID:
	<4313AD4429551F4595A8A414A660C75F079E1908@wdcrobe2m05.ed.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
One of the installation steps for the Ipod and Rockbox says as follows:
"To install (or upgrade) Rockbox you need to attach your iPod to your PC
via USB, ensure that iTunes is set up to allow you to access your ipod
as a disk,
and then unzip rockbox.zip to the top-level (root) folder on your iPod."
Being a blind guy, I didn't install Itunes, but instead attached the USB
cable to the Ipod and went into disk mode.  This allowed the computer to
see the Ipod as a disk drive and also then allowed me to use Winzip to
unzip the Rockbox software to the Ipod's main folder.  Did I cause a
problem by doing it this way?  In other words, is this ok or is Itunes
required to make it unzip properly as implied by the instructions.
Thanks for answering.
Don
Don Barrett
Section 508 Coordinator
U.S. Department of Education
(202)-205-8245
don.barrett@ed.gov
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