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Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: Voice UI volume tied to music volumeRe: Voice UI volume tied to music volume
From: Mark <discardedswimwear_at_googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:33:57 +0100 True, but my understanding is that that is actually turning the unit off. I realise that I might be trying to pursue a wonderful "perfect" solution to a problem for which there already exist at least two easy sensible workarounds, but hey... ;) Here's another idea: would it be possible to put a "Stop" command in the main Rockbox menu? Anyway, better go now, I've got to help my assistant with his attempts to turn lead into gold. ;) Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Louden" <paulthenerd_at_gmail.com> To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:42 PM Subject: Re: Voice UI volume tied to music volume And to stop music on the iPod, you hold the Play/Pause button for ~1-2 seconds. On 5/8/06, James Teh <jamie_at_jantrid.net> wrote: > > Hi. > I do not have an Ipod, so have no idea how the Rockbox port works on the > Ipod. However, it seems to me that you are saying there is no 'stop' > button to stop the music, rather than just using 'play' to pause. If you > 'stop' the music, the voice UI will talk as normal. It is not currently > possible for Rockbox to speak while playback is paused; it is not just > related to the volume of the audio. To cut a long story short, > currently, there needs to be audio with which to mix the voice while > playback is in progress. When paused, the audio must remain in the > buffer in order to facilitate immediate playback, but there is no new > audio with which to mix the voice, so voice cannot occur. This is my > understanding anyway; one of the devs is very welcome to correct my > probably flawed explanation. :) A few solutions have been discussed, but > they're not likely to be implemented for a while yet. > > If you can 'stop' playback on the Ipod with Rockbox rather than pausing, > do this instead and voice should work. Pressing play again should resume > the audio, but it won't be quite as immediate as when unpausing. > > Jamie > > Mark wrote: > > I'm using RB on an iPod Nano, and it certainly seems to be getting > > better! thanks. > > > > One thing that does seem a bit annoying is that when I use the Play > > button to stop (pause) the music, with "Fade on pause" set to On, the > > music fades out OK, but the spoken UI voice volume fades out too. This > > also happens if the "Fade on pause" is off. > > If I press Play again to listen to the UI, then the music starts again > > (not suprising!) > > So, as it stands, if I have music playing and I want to stop the music > > but still be able to listen to the voice, I have to do a hard reset > > (menu+Select). > > > > This is not really too much trouble, but it does seem a bit > over-the-top. > > > > This all happens, I suspect, because the volume level of the voice is > > linked directly to the volume of the music. What I'd like to suggest is > > the de-coupling of the voice volume and the music volume. That way when > > I stop/pause the music the voice would still be audible. > > > > There could be an extra setting under the Voice menu, for voice volume. > > This could either be a straightforward db value, or it could have two > > further settings: "Voice Volume Link" and "Voice Volume level". > > The "Voice Volume Link" would have two settings: > > relative - with this set, the volume at which the voice is spoken is > > relative to the volume of the music so that if the music is playing > > quietly then the voice will speak relatively quietly and if the music is > > playing loudly then the voice would be louder too. > > absolute - the voice volume is set at a particular level regardless of > > how loud the music is playing. In this way, the volumes are completely > > independent. > > > > If the firmware/hardware are configured in such a way that having these > > two channel volumes separated is not easily practical, then one other > > suggestion would be that when the player volume reaches zero (or minimum > > value) at the end of the pause, then the volume is immediately reset to > > its pre-fade value (with the music remaining paused). > > > > As I said, having to reset the player is not really a big problem, just > > that it's, well, just not very "elegant". If it'd be a huge job to > > implement this, then I'll happily carry on resetting! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > -- > James Teh > Email: jamie_at_jantrid.net > WWW: http://www.jantrid.net/jamie/ > MSN Messenger: jamie_at_jantrid.net > Jabber: jteh_at_jabber.org > Yahoo: jcs_teh > > Received on 2006-05-10 Page template was last modified "Tue Sep 7 00:00:02 2021" The Rockbox Crew -- Privacy Policy |