From: Rich De Steno <ironrock_at_verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:09:46 -0400

The fast Eloquence is better anyway, clear and fast.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Powell" <rob_at_rinty.plus.com>
To: "'Rockbox'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:41 AM
Subject: RE: changes to voice files


> Nice one Jamie, I can confirm from discussions at the time on the list,
that
> indeed ATNT employ a company specifically to look for licence "breaches"
of
> this type. U Unfortunately they found us, not surprising as when you put
> iriver or Archos into the search engine, after the sponsored links, comes
> rockbox. I was in contact with someone at the time, who I thought might
be
> able to resolve the problem for us, however that trail went cold. At any
> rate, it was going to cost the project about £1500 to get the requisite
> licence for us to legally do what we're doing.
>
> Jamy's point is quite correct, very strictly speaking we're breaking the
> terms of the ATNT licence agreement, though interestingly if we own a copy
> of the voices ourselves, we're within our rites to use these files, though
> of course that would be impossible to administer in a project like RB.
The
> sames probably true with the IBM voices, though apparently not with the MS
> ones.
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]
On
> Behalf Of James Teh
> Sent: 13 June 2006 02:09
> To: Rockbox
> Subject: Re: changes to voice files
>
> alex wallis wrote:
> > i've just been on the rockbox website to update rockbox and i see the
> > speech files have changed according to it what exactly has been done
> > to them?
> The language files were restructured and reorganised somewhat, which broke
> compatibility with the old voice files.
>
> > secondly what is this hovering thing all about some kind of option to
> > only voice things while hovering i think.
> This refers to the speaking of mp3 clips to voice file names and
> directories. If you enable this, Rockbox will look for mp3 clips to speak
> while as you move to files and directories. See the Rockbox wiki for more
> info.
>
> > also is it me or is the speech buggy? several times while going thru
> > the menus in different places using the read US english voice it jus
> > suddenly went mad and started reading loads and loads of stuff not
> > even in the menus all about battery type, then it started saying
> > different units of time and then it began to recite the alphabet does
> > anyone no if this is a bug with speech generally or the voice file in
> particular.
> Weird. This bug was fixed in April for me, so perhaps it has returned.
> Are you running the latest daily/cvs build?
>
> > also could someone fill me in why have the naturally speaking voices
> > been removed? i liked paul he was a nice clear voice.
> > personally and i no everyones going to be shooting me down over this
> > one but its my oppinion so ile state it. who cares if we officially
> > aren't allowed to use the naturally speaking voices i mean who ran and
> > told the manufacturer for starters. what they don't no can't hert them
...
> It is very likely that no one "ran and told them". Everyone can access a
web
> site, everyone can use a search engine, and with a project the size of
> Rockbox, there is a high chance of it being discovered.
>
> > and if we are questioning issues of legality here i'm sure that all
> > the other manufacturers of voices would have something to say about
> > there voices being used
> The point is that they haven't said anything. AT&T has. Unfortunately,
their
> license does actually prevent such use of their voices. Rockbox has to
> comply with such requests for several reasons, one of which being that the
> Rockbox crew don't want to be seen as people connoting illegal activity.
> > and in fact i bet if you asked them iriver would say that they wern't
> > happy about there firmware being patched or people using that BDM
> > wiggler thing to find out about the skimatics of the player.
> That is why the patched firmware is not distributed directly by Rockbox.
> If you patch the firmware, it is your responsibility. It is very likely
that
> Iriver know, but they haven't said a thing; possibly turning a "blind eye"
> because there is no real reason for them to care. Besides, reverse
> engineering is legal in many places, although the definition of reverse
> engineering is a rather complex topic.
>
> Jamie
>
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Received on 2006-06-14