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Subject: RE: file query again.

RE: file query again.

From: Maurice Press <MauricePress_at_Enterprise.net>
Date: 2006-06-27

Michael, Thanks for your response. However, the point still is this.
Once I press the middle button to go to a new track or directory, as the
track continues playing until changed, the directories or tracks aren't
being spoken by Rockbox MP3 clip.
What I'd rather happen is that, once I want toplay a new album, I press
the middle button and the ipod stops playing the track and Rockbox cuts in.
so I can then select a new album using mp3 clip and carry on.

Does this make sense or am I being a bit stupid here. I can't see the
screen as I have no sight at all.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: file query again. (Michael DiFebbo)
   2. Re: Recorder V2 troubleshooting help needed (Tom Marinello)
   3. Re: Recorder V2 troubleshooting help needed (Manuel Dejonghe)
   4. Tool to inspect device filesystem (Delfin Rojas)
   5. Re: charging questions (Tom Cole)
   6. Re: Tool to inspect device filesystem (Daniel Stenberg)
   7. Re: Rockbox 2.5 release notes (Tom Cole)
   8. Re: charging questions (James Teh)
   9. USB chargers (Brandon Hicks)
  10. Re: charging questions (Manuel Dejonghe)
  11. RE: USB chargers (Aman Singer)
  12. Re: USB chargers (Brandon Hicks)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:23:34 -0400
From: Michael DiFebbo <medifebbo@rcn.com>
Subject: Re: file query again.
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <44A03436.7060301@rcn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Maurice Press wrote:
> Whilst a track/album is playing, how do I select a different album.
>
Press the center button. (By "press," I mean a short press; do not hold
the button.) This will put you into the file browser. If you have the
"Follow playlist" setting set to yes, you will be in the same directory
as the song that you were playing when you pressed the center button.
Otherwise, you will be in the root directory.

Either way, once you're in the file browser, the following controls apply:

-Scroll wheel forward and back moves up and down in the file/folder list
-The left button moves up a level in the directory hierarchy
-The right button and the select button open the folder you have
selected (if you have a folder selected) or play the file you have
selected (if you have a file selected)
-The Play/Pause button returns you to the While Playing Screen.
-The Menu button enters the menu system.

To play a different album from the one you are currently listening to,
you can do one of two things:

1. Navigate to the folder containing the album. Press the center
button (or the right button) to open that folder, and then press the
same button again to start playing the first track on the album.
Rockbox will automatically create a playlist with all of the songs on
that album.

2. Navigate to the folder containing the album. Press AND HOLD the
center button. Press the center button again to enter the playlist
menu, and then select one of the options on that screen. This will
insert the folder you have selected into your current playlist, so
Rockbox will play that folder and then resume from where you were when
you inserted the new album into the playlist.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:19:06 -0700
From: Tom Marinello <t.marinello@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Recorder V2 troubleshooting help needed
To: rockbox@cool.haxx.se
Message-ID: <44A04F4A.2090106@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Mike and BlueChip,

Thanks for the quick response. But...

I should have noted initially that the unit displays the same behavior
whether connected to USB _or_ AC adapter power.

/Tom

On 6/26/06, Mike Bartz wrote:
> Definitely plug in the AC adaptor and see if it powers up. I had the
> problem on my V2 where it would not power up off of the batteries, but
> would be OK on AC power.
>
> I had to remove the battery and bend the connectors that are deep
> inside the unit toward the battery with a modified paperclip to get a
> better contact. After a full charge, everything was fine.
>
> Mike

  and

BlueChip wrote:
> I'd start by checking the battery connections.
> There are pages about it in the wiki.
> It is a common fault for both the V1 and V2 units.
>
> BC
>
> Tom Marinello wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Longtime lurker - using Rockbox since version 2.2.
>
> My V2 (running an April 20 daily build) took a fall the other day and
> now when I press "On," the green LED comes on, the display LED backlight
> comes on, but there's no Rockbox. No text in the display, no red drive
> light, and if I release the "On" key, it shuts down. There are drive
> sounds - I can hear it spin up, but that's it. Connecting a USB cable
> has the same result.
>
> Not sure where to start troubleshooting. Does this sound like a drive
> problem or electronics? Should I unsolder the drive and test it in my PC
> or is it dead electronics? Fry's has a Toshiba 60MB and a Fujitsu 100MB
> (both 8mb/5400 RPM drives) in their weekend ad, if this is a drive
> problem - and advice for or against either of those?
>
> Can anyone provide logical troubleshooting advise, or point me to a
> thread in the archives? I'm willing to spend a little time and money,
> but this may be the time to upgrade.
>
> thanks
> /Tom
>
>
>

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:44:12 +0200
From: "Manuel Dejonghe" <manuel@dejonghe.de>
Subject: Re: Recorder V2 troubleshooting help needed
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
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On 6/26/06, Tom Marinello <t.marinello@comcast.net> wrote:
> I should have noted initially that the unit displays the same behavior
> whether connected to USB _or_ AC adapter power.

Hi,

it could still be the battery connectors, as the archos' are build the
way they do not work without battery.

~lImbus

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:59:30 -0700
From: "Delfin Rojas" <drojas@moodlogic.com>
Subject: Tool to inspect device filesystem
To: <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <008401c6996b$cd0c3ec0$3b00a8c0@dlaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello there,

I'm not sure this is the right mailist list for my question but if it is not
please forgive me and point me to the right one.

I have an iRiver Clix device (successor to U10 devices) which does not mount
as a drive but I would like to take a look at the files inside the device.
Is there a tool I could use for this purpose? I believe the answer is "no"
but I thought I would try.

Thanks a lot,

Delfin Rojas

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:06:00 +1200
From: Tom Cole <tcole@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: charging questions
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <a4l0a2danksogo2560rtv974uof4lm9sb6@4ax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:06:20 +1000, James Teh <jamie@jantrid.net> wrote:

>Linus Nielsen Feltzing wrote:
>> James Teh wrote:
>>> Sorry, this is not what I meant. The idle timeout does indeed trigger as
>>> it should when the charger is disconnected, but my point is that the
>>> user should be able to shut down Rockbox while on charge and then
>>> disconnect with Rockbox powering off upon disconnect.
>> I don't get it. Why would it be so much more difficult to shut down the
>> player after charging it than while it is charging? And why even
>> consider waiting for the idle timeout instead of shutting it down
>> manually? I'm confused.
>Scenario: user is using player while charging, then wants to shut down,
>key lock and go to bed, leaving the player to charge overnight. User
>then wants to quickly disconnect the unit from charger the next morning
>and drop in a bag, rather than having to disengage key lock, power off
>and re-engage. Of course, user could simply just avoid key lock after
>use in the first place. As I said, it isn't a huge inconvenience, but it
>seems to be inconsistent with most expected behaviour and the existing
>behaviour when an Archos is connected to power, although Jens noted taht
>the charging screen might be removed which would eliminate this latter
>inconsistency. Also, in future on the H300, to be consistent, if Rockbox
>boots as soon as power is connected rather than dropping into a charging
>screen, Rockbox must be loaded and auto resume may engage, meaning the
>user would have to wait and stop playback after the charger is connected.
>

The main purpose of the charging screen in the Archos machines is to
show that the unit is running in a reduced power consumption state. i.e.
the hard drive is not powered up. This is to allow flat batteries to be
charged up by simply plugging in the charger. Pressing "On" from this
state will start the Archos normally and allow it to browse and play
music, etc.

If plugging in the charger caused the unit to attempt to start normally
and spin up the HD, the batteries may not have enough power to do this
and the unit would then shut down. This would mean that the user would
not be able to charge flat batteries in the machine.

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:06:35 +0200 (CEST)
From: Daniel Stenberg <daniel@rockbox.org>
Subject: Re: Tool to inspect device filesystem
To: delroj@email.allmusic.com, Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606270006060.21958@yvahk3.pbagnpgbe.fr>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Delfin Rojas wrote:

> I have an iRiver Clix device (successor to U10 devices) which does not
mount
> as a drive but I would like to take a look at the files inside the device.
> Is there a tool I could use for this purpose? I believe the answer is "no"
> but I thought I would try.

If you can't mount it, how would you physically access the drive?

--
  Daniel Stenberg -- http://www.rockbox.org/ -- http://daniel.haxx.se/
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:12:11 +1200
From: Tom Cole <tcole@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Rockbox 2.5 release notes
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <bom0a2hdgee5sacji2fvk22fivm0bg5jqm@4ax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:25:38 +0200, "Manuel Dejonghe"
<manuel@dejonghe.de> wrote:
>On 6/26/06, Grant Hardy <grant_hardy@telus.net> wrote:
>> I saw this in the Rockbox 2.5 release notes:
>> "Rockbox can automatically detect sound, start a recording and then stop
the
>> recording on silence. This feature is quite advanced, and allows for a
lot
>> of different variations of recording based on sound level."
>>
>> Well, I never knew about this function!  Are there any instructions as to
>> how this function is used?  Does it work with the iriver port as well?
>
>Of course:
>http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TriggerManual
>
Grant,
You would not have known about this because voicing was never coded into
this part of the menu structure!
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:43:41 +1000
From: James Teh <jamie@jantrid.net>
Subject: Re: charging questions
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <44A0712D.3020202@jantrid.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Tom Cole wrote:
> The main purpose of the charging screen in the Archos machines is to
> show that the unit is running in a reduced power consumption state. i.e.
> the hard drive is not powered up. This is to allow flat batteries to be
> charged up by simply plugging in the charger. Pressing "On" from this
> state will start the Archos normally and allow it to browse and play
> music, etc.
Would this not apply to the Iriver H300 as well once the bootloader is
patched? I have heard of instances of the unit not being able to boot
due to a very flat battery, although in the H300 case, the charging is
done in hardware so it's only cosmetic.
Jamie
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:59:37 -0600
From: "Brandon Hicks" <reyuth1010@gmail.com>
Subject: USB chargers
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Cc: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <001501c6997c$99304630$9a52c0ac@dragster>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
hi all,
am going to be taking a trip for a week where I won't have access to my
laptop to recharge my mp3 player. I'm wondering if anyone can suggest
something that will allow me to plug it in and charge off batteries. The one
I'm thinking of using uses a standard USB plug, instead of mini, so that
would have to be a requirement. I do have my other mp3 player that I could
take which has a mini USB, but it's a toshiba which requires drivers so I'm
not sure if it would charge off a battery box or not. If anyone can advise
me to somewhere that either ships to canada and has phone ordering or uses
PayPal and ships to Canada, I'd appreciate it or else I'm going to have to
start burning cd's... *wince*
thanks
Brandon Hicks
Email: reyuth1010@gmail.com
Skype: callto://reyuth
msn: silverdart12@hotmail.com
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:07:39 +0200
From: "Manuel Dejonghe" <manuel@dejonghe.de>
Subject: Re: charging questions
To: Rockbox <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID:
	<9e4313e10606261707j11f0ba58w2b48b2de01e85c47@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 6/27/06, James Teh <jamie@jantrid.net> wrote:
> Tom Cole wrote:
> > The main purpose of the charging screen in the Archos machines is to
> > show that the unit is running in a reduced power consumption state. i.e.
> > the hard drive is not powered up. This is to allow flat batteries to be
> > charged up by simply plugging in the charger. Pressing "On" from this
> > state will start the Archos normally and allow it to browse and play
> > music, etc.
> Would this not apply to the Iriver H300 as well once the bootloader is
> patched? I have heard of instances of the unit not being able to boot
> due to a very flat battery, although in the H300 case, the charging is
> done in hardware so it's only cosmetic.
Please, let's not forget/break the car adaptor mode. It's intended to
resume playback as soon the unit is powered by the charger plug.
Although I must admit I would not know how to "brute force charge" my
recV1 (that is in car adapter mode) once the batteries are completely
flat. There is probably a keystroke that erases all such settings all
will then failover to the charging screen.
~lImbus
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:22:52 -0400
From: "Aman Singer" <aman@asinger.net>
Subject: RE: USB chargers
To: "'Rockbox'" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <200606270022.k5R0MepR032385@labb.contactor.se>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
Hi.
	You might want to try this company
http://www.boxwave.com/
	They should have what you want.
	Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces@cool.haxx.se] On
Behalf Of Brandon Hicks
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:00 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Cc: Rockbox
Subject: USB chargers
hi all,
am going to be taking a trip for a week where I won't have access to my
laptop to recharge my mp3 player. I'm wondering if anyone can suggest
something that will allow me to plug it in and charge off batteries. The one
I'm thinking of using uses a standard USB plug, instead of mini, so that
would have to be a requirement. I do have my other mp3 player that I could
take which has a mini USB, but it's a toshiba which requires drivers so I'm
not sure if it would charge off a battery box or not. If anyone can advise
me to somewhere that either ships to canada and has phone ordering or uses
PayPal and ships to Canada, I'd appreciate it or else I'm going to have to
start burning cd's... *wince*
thanks
Brandon Hicks
Email: reyuth1010@gmail.com
Skype: callto://reyuth
msn: silverdart12@hotmail.com
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:57:33 -0600
From: "Brandon Hicks" <reyuth1010@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: USB chargers
To: "Rockbox" <rockbox@cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <000401c6998d$110d98a0$9a52c0ac@dragster>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
hi aman,
do you use one of these? I'm looking at the battery charger, and it's saying
I also need to buy this mini-sync. What's that? How does that all work? I'm
kind of confused.
Brandon Hicks
Email: reyuth1010@gmail.com
Skype: callto://reyuth
msn: silverdart12@hotmail.com
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