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Subject: Re: My IRiver will not talk

Re: My IRiver will not talk

From: Andrew Hart <ahart_at_dim.uchile.cl>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:37:00 -0400

Melissa,

It is possible to tell if Rockbox is starting.

If you have it turned on, turn it off.

Now, holding the player near an ear, hold the play button )the top left
button on the unit when the unit is oriented with the screen toward the
top) down for two seconds. Let the button up after two seconds.

If Rockbox is starting, you'll hear the hard disk begin to spin up
almost immediately. Rockbox will take around 4-6 seconds to start at
which time you can start playing files, etc.

If the standard Iriver firmware is starting, you will hear nothing for
at least 10 seconds (don't forget to count it) and then you hear the
hard disk spin up. The standard Iriver firmware can take as long as 20
seconds to start up and generally needs at least 13 seconds as far as I
am aware. Rockbox is much much faster.

Also, when you turn off the player, the two firmwares behave
differently. Rockbox spins up the disk to save some data when you tell
it to shut down. In contrast, the Iriver firmware doesn't make a sound.
  To the best of my knowledge, you can't tell (without some sight) if
the Iriver firmware did actually shut the unit down.

So you can turn the unit off and listen for the disk spin-up to help
confirm if Rockbox was actually running.

Hth,
Andrew.

Melissa Keys wrote:
> Thank you very much both Andrew and glenn. I tried pushing the A/B
> button to get into the menus and I still don't hear any speech. I
> didn't realize the directory and file names were turned off by default.
> At least I can hear my songs still. I'm still not even sure if this is
> booting up into rockbox. thanks everyone for your patience. i'll get
> it working eventually. Now I'm off to read more of the manual to see
> what else I may have missed. I'll download the voicebox stuff just as
> soon as I can get the speech going!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hart" <ahart_at_dim.uchile.cl>
> To: "Glenn at home" <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>; "Rockbox"
> <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: My IRiver will not talk
>
>
>> Also, Melissa, try to see if the menus talk first. If a voice file is
>> installed, the menus should speak out of the box. Reach the menus by
>> pressing the a-b button which is the bottom right button on the front
>> of the unit.
>>
>> If you hear speech, go to general settings and look for voice settings.
>> You need to turn on directory and file speaking. These are turned off
>> by default. This is why you don't hear and directory or file names
>> being spoken at the moment.
>>
>> By the way, if you want to hear filenames spoken as words instead of
>> spelt, you'll need to get the voicebox package from the Rockbox web
>> site and use it to generate mp3 clips for the files on your player.
>> Also, you need to set the directory and file speaking options to talk
>> mp3 clip.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Andrew.
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn at home wrote:
>>> Hello Melissa,
>>> Try this:
>>> Have someone go into the menus and go to general, and settings, and
>>> choose "default settings".
>>> I used to know the steps, but if the menu structure has changed
>>> recently, i.e., if something has been added, my arrow-steps would not
>>> work.
>>> Maybe someone here has a recent build, and can give you the steps,
>>> such as:
>>> Arrow down x times and press the right arrow...
>>> But other than that,, if you pressed the reset button, I don't have
>>> an answer at the time.
>>> But I really think the default settings will help.
>>> Glenn
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Keys" <melkeys_at_hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Glenn at home" <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>; "Rockbox"
>>> <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:04 AM
>>> Subject: Re: My IRiver will not talk
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi. I still don't have speech, but thanks very much for your help.
>>> I am
>>> not sure what to do now, but I can still use the player by moving
>>> from song
>>> to song with the right arrow or navigation button. Maybe I'm not
>>> booting
>>> into rockbox at all? I'll let someone have a look and let me know
>>> what is
>>> coming up when the player decides to turn on. If rockbox is not booting
>>> would I need to reinstall the bootloader? Thanks again for all your
>>> help,
>>> and I'll get it working eventually!
>>>
>>> Melissa
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn at home"
>>> <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>
>>> To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: My IRiver will not talk
>>>
>>>
>>>> Try pressing your reset button.
>>>> I believe it is on the left side, near the top.
>>>> You'll need a paper clip or some such item to depress it.
>>>> It is a little hole.
>>>> HTH.
>>>> Glenn
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Keys" <melkeys_at_hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: My IRiver will not talk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I still don't have any speech. I will just wait till tomorrow and try
>>>> again. Would there be any need at all to reinstall rockbox? Thanks
>>>> again
>>>> for all your help! I'll get it going soon I hope.
>>>>
>>>> Melissa
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Hardy"
>>>> <grant_hardy_at_telus.net>
>>>> To: "'Rockbox'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:19 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: My IRiver will not talk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you so much! Boy... I didn't know rockbox wouldn't boot if the
>>>>>> adapter was plugged in! I am still laughing at myself for that one!
>>>>> Don't laugh at yourself, that's a Rockbox bug that will be fixed soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>> However now that the adapter is not plugged in I can't seem to get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> player to come on at all. It is now fully charged. Anymore
>>>>>> suggestions
>>>>> Your player's probably still on, in the original firmware. While
>>>>> connected
>>>>> to the charger, I don't believe it powers off at all. Press/hold the
>>>>> stop
>>>>> button (just below the Play button on the left side) and wait a few
>>>>> moments
>>>>> while your player turns itself off, then try to turn it on again
>>>>> without
>>>>> the
>>>>> adapter connected. Now, voice should work as expected. Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Received on 2006-09-13


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