Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: Email ettiquette (was RE: windows won't detect my ipod)
Re: Email ettiquette (was RE: windows won't detect my ipod)
From: Tyler Wood <tcwood12_at_shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 06:56:57 -0600
That's another thing. I use outlook express, which setts top posting by default. Besides, its easier for me.
Have a good day
--- Tyler Wood skype: the_conman283 msn/windows messinger: the_conman283_at_hotmail.com e-mail: tcwood12_at_shaw.ca best tv guide on the internet: http://www.zap2it.com best internet radio: http://www.bluebeat.com soon to have a live journal! ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathan Hevenstone To: christof_at_infinitus.co.uk ; Rockbox Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Email ettiquette (was RE: windows won't detect my ipod) I top-post, myself (I'm doing that here). And I do that for two reasons: 1. It's easier for me 2. I use Gmail, which sets top-post by default, and it's easier to read on Gmail with top-posting. To me, the bottom-posting on emails gets really confusing, because of the way previous emails are quoted. And no, I'm not blind or anything. It's just easier that way. Like Chris said: I'd rather see the reply and then the original message rather than the other way around, mainly because, when reading a new email, it's for the reply, not the message the sender is replying to. On 3/2/07, Christopher Woods <christof_at_infinitus.co.uk> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Caron [mailto:matt_at_mattcaron.net] > Sent: 03 March 2007 02:16 > To: Rockbox > Subject: Re: Email ettiquette (was RE: windows won't detect my ipod) > > Actually, on a completely different topic and mostly from a > social commentary perspective, I've noticed this quite a bit > in my transition from engineering/tech focused fields to > having more dealings with management. I used to be a firmware > engineer to a printer company, then a consultant writing > .NET, now I write Perl and PHP for an insurance company. It > seems like the further you get away from hackers and the more > you get towards non-computer folks (product managers, > engineers from other disciplines, my mother, etc.), the more > people simply can't handle inline comments and what we > consider "proper" use of email. > Hence, they top-post, quote incorrectly, are imprecise in > their use of language and explanations, etc. The thing is, I > can't figure out why - I try and explain why these approaches > are better, and they seem to make an effort, and end up just > getting more confused. It must be some difference in the way > they think vs. the way I think. Interesting this; it's something I've noticed a lot on all the lists I participate in. Personally, I top-post when replying to emails or lists where it's not minded (where, say, the list admin top posts himself and so it's not minded that much) but I do try to make the effort to reply below the message on lists like this where I know there's a lot more users who do it the 'classical' way. ;) I find top-posted replies easier to read, it's quicker, for me anyway, to view an entire conversation just based on jumping to each email received in chronological order with the same topic. Just about everybody I speak to in emails and correspond with top-posts, I think it's just one of those things people do because it's quicker - and, for me at least, there's no appreciable downsides to doing it, because you do have the original message below the reply for clarity or context should you wish to read it (instead of having to skip all the way past it to view the response). Those few seconds per message can really add up if you're going through a lot of emails... It's the classic 'old skool vs. nu skool' debate once again - I guess I'm in the nu skool camp of email users insofar as method in which I write my replies :) And no, I'm not blind, just eternally short of time, and yes, I've also considered that top-posting is more beneficial for the partially-sighted and blind people on lists such as this (which is why I'd do it all the time if I knew that it wouldn't rile people as much as it seems to do). For me, it's not so much as a "can't handle inline commenting" issue, I will do that if the need arises (say, I'm replying to many points through a lengthy email) but for short responses, I can't really see much point in replying below the original message. I scan through my list of emails in Outlook, I click on one and it displays in the autopreview pane below the message list, I read the reply, I move on - having to skip chunks of original text wastes time imho and is a behaviour which is declining in usage (maybe for the best, in the grand scheme of things, change is good), at least from what I see. It makes no perceivable difference to the behaviour of email clients (like Outlook and gmail, where you can organise things into conversations) - it does that based on the date and the email title, so putting the original message before your reply seems a bit pointless these days. Thoughts? Obvious pros/cons for top/bottom posting? -- See Me at my YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/jimmyRRpage Please comment!Received on 2007-03-03
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