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Subject: Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 21, Issue 39

Re: rockbox Digest, Vol 21, Issue 39

From: alexander gibbons <alex_at_gibbons81.fsnet.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:53:20 +0100

hi list

i am confused on the web site it says that rock box is not aviable on rhe
80g ipod video, but eaierler this week we got the news on the list that it
does work where on the site is the downloadable software, and how reliable
is it all feedback welcome

regards

alex gibbons
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:34 PM
Subject: rockbox Digest, Vol 21, Issue 39


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> 1. Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have SOUND! (Robert Menes)
> 2. Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have SOUND! (Rocker)
> 3. RE: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have SOUND! (Sarai)
> 4. Re: Help With My Iriver (Paul Erkens)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:48:46 -0400
> From: "Robert Menes" <viewtiful.icchan_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have SOUND!
> To: Rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Message-ID:
> <f0e0fd880705211148v3b679b80o11e799f0fad48c53_at_mail.gmail.com>
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> On 5/20/07, Jens Arnold <arnold-j_at_t-online.de> wrote:
>>
>> >I am happy to announce that rockbox just played music for the
>> >first time on an iPod Video G5.5 80GB. While this one isn't a
>> >completely new target, it's a much awaited one, complementing
>> >rockbox support on the iPod Video series.
>
>
> This is amazing! I held back on buying an 80GB iPod when I found out that
> it wasn't supported at the time (back in December 2006). Now that it is,
> I'm
> thinking about getting one... once the kinks are worked out of the port,
> of
> course. :)
>
> Keep up the excellent work, guys! Rockbox has become one of my new
> favorite open source projects to watch!
>
>>
>>
>> >At devcon we decided to implement the "cheap" way for a start,
>> >having a slightly negative impact on disk performance but being
>> >a whole lot easier to implement. There's always the opportunity
>> >to improve performance later on.
>
>
> Very true, and I know that we can all help make it better. Hey, it
> worked for the Sansa port!
>
> Rob
> (Rockbox user since 12/28/06; running on a 5.5G iPod video; 30GB)
>
> --
>> Nobody's ever lost in life...they're merely taking the scenic route.
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> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:08:16 -0600
> From: Rocker <rocker_at_shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have SOUND!
> To: Rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Message-ID: <000301c79bdb$636a4340$0901a8c0_at_Keith1>
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> From: "Paul Louden" <paulthenerd_at_gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have SOUND!
>
>
> There is no "Nano 5.5G"
>
> If you're referring to the second generation Nano, no it's not on its
> way. It's an entirely new port, that would need to be started from
> scratch, and so far nobody who owns one has shown an interest in doing
> it
>
> **All right I stand corrected! Thanks for pointing this out...rocker
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:11:24 -0500
> From: "Sarai" <bucc7465_at_bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have SOUND!
> To: "'Rockbox'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Message-ID: <004101c79be4$34fa82f0$6601a8c0_at_Rosie>
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>
> Jens wrote"
> I am happy to announce that rockbox just played music for the first time
> on an iPod Video G5.5 80GB. While this one isn't a completely new
> target, it's a much awaited one, complementing rockbox support on the
> iPod Video series.
>
> In case you want to know, the first song played by rockbox on the G5.5
> 80GB was "My Dark Side Home" by Visions of Atlantis.
>
> At devcon we decided to implement the "cheap" way for a start, having a
> slightly negative impact on disk performance but being a whole lot
> easier to implement. There's always the opportunity to improve
> performance later on.
>
> I'll give the code some good stress testing before committing it to SVN,
> so please don't be too impatient :)
>
> Keep on rocking!!
>
> Jens
> ***
> Good going guys, you've made a blind user very happy! When it's tested,
> I'll go buy my 80 GB ipod! Thank you!
>
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]
> On Behalf Of Jens Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 4:07 PM
> To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
> Subject: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have SOUND!
>
>
> I am happy to announce that rockbox just played music for the first time
> on an iPod Video G5.5 80GB. While this one isn't a completely new
> target, it's a much awaited one, complementing rockbox support on the
> iPod Video series.
>
> In case you want to know, the first song played by rockbox on the G5.5
> 80GB was "My Dark Side Home" by Visions of Atlantis.
>
> At devcon we decided to implement the "cheap" way for a start, having a
> slightly negative impact on disk performance but being a whole lot
> easier to implement. There's always the opportunity to improve
> performance later on.
>
> I'll give the code some good stress testing before committing it to SVN,
> so please don't be too impatient :)
>
> Keep on rocking!!
>
> Jens
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 22:35:53 +0200
> From: "Paul Erkens" <pjealt_at_xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: Help With My Iriver
> To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Message-ID: <001001c79be7$a06012f0$4501a8c0_at_e6600>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> The boot loader you need for your Iriver is on the rockbox website. Reason
> is that it's created by the rockbox team and not by Iriver, so just get it
> from rockbox. Where it is exactly, is something I need to track down
> myself too. I have a different player, but I do remember having seen one
> for the Iriver h340.
>
> Paul.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robin Christopherson
> To: Rockbox
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Help With My Iriver
>
>
> Paul
>
> Actually it's a long and rather involved story but currently it is
> awiting some extremely small jewellers screwdrivers to change the battery
> as the current one is as dead as a doornail. Hopefully in the next day or
> so I'll have it up and running and I'll definitely let you know if I was
> successful.
>
> One thing - I read and reread your instructions about where to get the
> bootloader file but can't decide if you mean for me to get it from the
> iRiver site or the Rockbox site? Can you confirm and, ideally, point me
> direct to the place to get it?
>
> Thanks, Robin.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Erkens
> To: Rockbox
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Help With My Iriver
>
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> Did you get rockbox to speak on your Iriver h340?
>
> Interested to hear about it.
> Paul.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robin Christopherson
> To: Rockbox
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Help With My Iriver
>
>
> Paul
>
> Thanks so much for that run down of updating the iRiver for someone
> else on the list as I too have an iRiver (H340) which I acquired recently
> but which seems to have old menus on it (i.e. the top menu item spoken is
> not 'Files'). I am thinking of updating the version of Rockbox and was
> about to follow all you instructions myself but have a couple of questions
> if I may:
>
> Firstly when I downloaded the current build (rather than the daily
> build) for the iRiver H340 and looked at the Rockbox-info.txt file it says
> that the version is 2.16.1 - I'm guessing this is the latest current build
> available for this relatively old player and I haven't looked into whether
> there are any newer daily builds. as I don't know if you would advise
> using these.
>
> I then downloaded the fonts fine, but when I get to the step in your
> instructions about downloading the voice files I read on the site that you
> need version 2.3 or higher for the menus to be spoken properly (i.e. "Note
> that you need Rockbox 2.3 or later for this to work. Depending on the
> rockbox version you use, select a suitable voice file below. Note that if
> you
> use a voice file not matching your rockbox version, nothing will go
> wrong, but not all menu entries, settings etc. may be voiced.") Is this a
> problem? Should I be trying to identify a newer version for the iRiver
> H340 from somewhere in the site -a daily build perhaps? If the version
> 2.16.1 which is the current build for the H340 as far as I can tell (it
> was certainly what I got when I chose the current build for this model) is
> fine what do I do about this requirement for 2.3 or higher re the voice
> files? Do I ignore it and download one of the voice files regardless -
> and if so which one out of the three choices of 'Voice files for rockbox
> release 2.5', 'Voice files for daily builds/current SVN builds' and
> 'Outdated voice files'? Help!
>
> I downloaded the first of these choices just because I had to choose
> one, but yet another query is that when you download the voice file it is
> indeed 'English.voice' (just as you state in your instructions) whereas
> the English voice file in the langs folder in the .rockbox folder has a
> .lng extension. It's all very confusing!!
>
> Lastly as I already have a working, if now outdated, version of
> Rockbox on my iRiver do I need to follow the steps about the bootloader
> or can I simply replace the existing .rockbox folder on the iRiver with
> the new one and bingo.
>
> Thanks a million for any light you can shed on these queries.
>
> Cheers, Robin.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Erkens
> To: Rockbox
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Help With My Iriver
>
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I have an I Audio x5 myself, but I used to own an iriver. Three of
> my friends still have Irivers too, and the past few days, since they saw
> me enjoy rockbox, they wanted it too on their irivers. I helped them with
> it, so maybe I can help you as well. Let's try and sum up what you need to
> do.
>
> You said you had it working in and before March. You are probably
> afraid that because of the menu restructuring, it no longer works on
> iriver. Well, all three irivers that I helped installing, work just fine.
> The procedure differs somewhat from player to player, but for Iriver it
> works as follows.
>
> You first download the latest rockbox build for Iriver. This is a
> zip file. Simply extract it and you will have a .rockbox folder, that is
> dot rockbox. Move it to the root of your player, with all its subfolders.
> That's one.
>
> Next, install the fonts package. Simply download it from the site,
> unzip it, and you will get a plain folder with a bunch of files. The
> folder name is fonts, f o n t s. To install the fonts, just navigate to
> the root of your player, look for the dot rockbox folder and go into it.
> Then, paste the fonts folder right there. That's two.
>
> Next, make sure you have the correct voice file. Download one for a
> current build, not for a release version, and unzip it. For English, the
> name of the file is english.voice. That is the word english, a dot, and
> the word voice. No spaces in the filename. The name of the file is already
> correct, once you unzip it. To install it, navigate into the dot rockbox
> folder on your player, look for the folder named langs, that is l a n g s,
> go into this folder, and paste the voice file right there. That's three.
>
> Now, you need the latest boot loader. Rockbox does not provide a
> separate boot loader for Iriver, like they do for other players. Instead,
> here's how they do it.
>
> The entire firmware for your iriver, the way you bought it, was
> contained in rom memory. Not on the hard drive, because that thing just
> contains your audio files. Now. In rom, there is boot code, and the
> original operating system of the iriver itself. If you wanted to flash
> this firmware to a new version, you would do so by going to the iriver
> site, and downloading the new firmware for your specific iriver player.
> This firmware file contains both the startup code that is being run when
> you turn the thing on, as well as the operating system itself, with all
> the codecs and menus.
>
> What rockbox does, is that they want you to flash your Iriver
> firmware as usual, but before you do so, you are going to modify the
> binary firmware file that you got from the iriver site. The reason to
> patch the firmware on your pc before uploading it into the rom chip on
> your player is, that rockbox wants to replace the existing boot loader
> from iriver, with their own version. This is because the rockbox boot
> loader is capable of letting you choose, to either boot into rockbox as
> you turn your player on, or boot into the original firmware the way it was
> before rockbox. If you then just turn the iriver on, the new bootloader
> from rom will execute, and rockbox will be loaded from disk. If however,
> you hold the record button when the device is off, and you then tap the
> play button to power the iriver up, you can release record and you will
> start the original firmware.
>
> So what you must do after the three steps above is the following.
> On the rockbox site, you will find links to some versions of the iriver
> firmware that you can download. So to be clear, you need not go to the
> iriver website to get the original and new iriver firmware for your
> player. It's on the rockbox site as well. Download the version for your
> player and unzip it.
>
> Now, you need to patch the firmware, so that it will contain the
> boot loader done by rockbox. To do this, you need the firmware patch
> program, also available on the rockbox site. Download and extract it, then
> run it. The program lets you browse to the firmware file you downloaded,
> and then if you press the patch button, you should get a message of
> success. The firmware file coming from Iriver is now patched, and includes
> the rockbox boot loader, rather than the original iriver boot code.
>
> Now, upload this file to your player. Put it in the root directory.
> Now turn off your iriver.
>
> Then, unplug your player from USB and hook it up to the AC adapter.
> Turn the player back on. The rom chip has not been modified yet, so the
> original iriver boot code and firmware will run. Now, kindly ask someone
> sighted to help you some. You will need to ask them to do the following.
>
> 1. Go into the iriver's main menu. Do that by pushing and holding
> the joystick. Not in any of the four directions, but right down, towards
> the player.When you release, the main menu appears.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, then the top most menu entry is labeled
> general settings. To go into this menu, press enter. To do that, just push
> the joystick and let go immediately. If you read enter in the description
> below, do the same thing.
>
> You should now be inside the general settings menu, and I believe
> the top most option here is labeled beep volume. Ask your helper to move
> down, by repeatedly pulling the joystick south and letting go. Each pull
> will advance the menu highlight downward, one line or item at a time.
>
> Stop if you are on "firmware upgrade". Press enter there.
>
> The device will ask: are you sure? There are two choices, yes and
> no, and by default right after this question appears, you are on no. So,
> move right with your joystick, to go to yes, and press enter there.
>
> The firmware upgrade process will start. Wait until the player
> shuts off by itself. Then hook up your head phones, and turn it on. After
> some ten seconds, you should hear: files, in your head phone. This means
> rockbox works finally.
>
> Warning. Sometimes, after recording with rockbox and your iriver,
> the voiced menus shut off. Not that the device malfunctions or anything.
> But because of some bug, the option in the settings, general settings,
> voice, voice menus is turned right off. This is not what you want, because
> then the device is speechless and you will be powerless with it.
>
> To overcome this, if it happens to you indeed, do the following.
>
> Turn the iriver off and on. You now know that you are in the main
> menu, on files. Move down 3 times, and you'll be on settings. Right arrow,
> to open this menu. From the settings menu here, once down and you are on
> general settings. Right arrow to enter that menu. Now in the settings,
> general settings menu, go up once, and you will be on the voice menu.
> Right arrow to open. Now, you are on the voice menus option that is off.
> Go right, and you'll be on no. Go up, and you'll be on yes. Go right, and
> you will have confirmed the new yes. From then on, the iriver will talk
> again.
>
> So again: turn off and back on, and then 3 down one right, one down
> one right, one up one right, one right, then up, then right. Go party.
>
> Paul.
>
> Next,
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Rumery
> To: Rockbox
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:09 PM
> Subject: Help With My Iriver
>
>
> Hello Rockboxers,
> I am a blind Rockbox user and I am having some serious
> trouble getting Rockbox to work properly on my Iriver H320. I have read
> and re-read the info on the Rockbox site and I do not know where I am
> going wrong but I cannot seem to get my player to voice the menus and
> filenames like it did before the menu restructure in March.
> Is there someone out there that would be willing to send me
> the direct links for the best working version of rockbox and the latest
> bootloader along with the voice files that work with this version? I have
> spent countless hours trying to get this problem fixed myself, and I can't
> seem to figure it outmyself. I have 3 non working Irivers now, and I
> would like nothing more than to get them up and running. So if there is
> another blind Rockbox user out there that has been able to get there
> Iriver running Rockbox properly would you please let me know what it is
> that I have missed?
>
> Scott
>
>
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