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Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: Help for blind/vision-impaired usersRe: Help for blind/vision-impaired users
From: Rocker <rocker_at_shaw.ca>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:50:14 -0600 Hi you wrote:I've been on this list for a while now and have observed that although the help is forthcoming, there appears to be some sort of differences in viewpoint, perspective, or understanding between the sighted person providing the help and the blind or vision-impaired individual asking the questions. It appears that the developers and others who do answer questions on this list, sometimes lack either the viewpoint, perspective, or understanding that another person who is blind would have when answering a question from a blind or vision-impaired user. This affects how well the blind person is able to follow the directions and thereby achieve the expected results on their Rockboxed player. Also there is the fact that many blind lists are set up for top posting, while this list is set up for bottom posting and apparently this is not remembered by most blind or vision-impaired individuals very well, and there doesn't seem to be a very high tolerance level when anyone top post to the list. The fact is, this list seems to be mainly designed for sighted users who have no trouble finding the answer at the bottom of the post without having to listen to a screen reader read everything else in the message before reaching the answer. Yes, this is the reason blind users usually top post. It's not because they want to break the rules, it's just that it's what they're used to doing, and top posting is far more efficient for those who have to use a screen reader to get through email messages. There is a list set up for users of Rockboxed Sansa MP3 players on which questions are asked and answered from the perspective of a blind/vision-impaired person and where top posting is the preferred posting method, as it is on most blind lists. I would like to offer this alternative mailing list to any blind or vision-impaired individuals who have questions about using Rockbox with their players, using VoiceBox, or using the Rockbox Utility. If you are a blind or vision-impaired individual and wish to find out about this list, please contact me at lazaro6_at_gmail.com and I'll provide you with the subscription information. The list is not for developer type questions though, so if you're interested in the in and outs of programming and developing Rockbox, then this wouldn't be the list for you. It's meant for those who have questions about using their player as a blind/vision-impaired user, voicing the menus, creating talk files, etc. I'm a blind individual and have used Rockbox on most models of Sansa MP3 players, have used VoiceBox, and am familiar with using the Rockbox Utility. I have set up players manually and with the use of the Rockbox Utility. I am in no way as knowledgeable as any of the Rockbox developers, nor could I replace them in any way except as I've stated above in regards to helping answer questions from a blind perspective from blind or vision-impaired individuals. Regards, Laz -------------------------------------------------------------------**I for one am not that incompetent that I need to top post because I'm blind. I am well versed with the screen readers I use and don't expect anything but to follow the list rules. I also don't like leading posts that seem to be made just to draw in buyers of refurbished Saunsa players with RB installed under the guise of supporting the blind community! Freaking BS! Having said this, it's not just the blind RB user that has been killed by the list Nazis'! yall know who you are don't ya! This used to be a fun and friendly list for everyone. The Dev's list was specifically set up to deal with Dev questions but still, The Jack boots are stomping if some unsuspecting user wants to post a question or comment and doesn't follow some virtual idiots views! Don't worry, I'm sure I'll be slayed for this post and that's ok baby since I have been around RB before any of you list Nazis and I can take it! Perhaps instead of marginalizing Blind users, or any users for that matter, hand list moderation over to me....rocker... and I'll happily restore the open, friendly and inclusive environment that this list serve used to be! For everyone! Not just the Blind Have a find day...rocker Unsubscribe: http://cool.haxx.se/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rockbox FAQ: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GeneralFAQ Etiquette: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/etiquette.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe: http://cool.haxx.se/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rockbox FAQ: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GeneralFAQ Etiquette: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/etiquette.html Received on 2012-05-30 Page template was last modified "Tue Sep 7 00:00:02 2021" The Rockbox Crew -- Privacy Policy |