FS#5112 - sleep - not deep sleep

Attached to Project: Rockbox
Opened by Anonymous Submitter - Thursday, 13 April 2006, 04:29 GMT
Last edited by Zakk Roberts (midkay) - Wednesday, 26 April 2006, 06:52 GMT
Task Type Feature Requests
Category Battery/Charging
Status Closed
Assigned To No-one
Operating System All players
Severity Low
Priority Normal
Reported Version
Due in Version Undecided
Due Date Undecided
Percent Complete 0%
Votes 0
Private No


currently the only thing that the rockbox supports is deep sleep... i was wondering if it is possible to make the sleep like the original ipod firmware..
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Closed by  Bj√∂rn Stenberg (zagor)

Reason for closing:  Fixed
Additional comments about closing:  Closing all feature requests.
Comment by Mikael Magnusson (mikaelh) - Tuesday, 25 April 2006, 23:15 GMT
there's really no reason since rockbox boots so quickly, in my opinion...
Comment by Zakk Roberts (midkay) - Wednesday, 26 April 2006, 06:53 GMT
Yeah, quite unlikely to happen since Rockbox boots so fast, and a sleep mode would just waste battery. Oh, and this is certainly not a bug report.
Comment by johannes (JoyFM) - Monday, 29 May 2006, 13:52 GMT
yes it boots fast, but normal sleep like in the original apple firmware is faster ;)
and i think if you turn your ipod very often on and off (like between school lessons or something) it wastes the battery more than the normal sleep
also i think the ipodlinx have this feature so that it can be port
Comment by Scott Myran (scottmyran) - Thursday, 09 November 2006, 18:38 GMT
I was going to request the same thing, but fotunately I searched first and found this. Rockbox's boot time is definitely NOT fast when comparing it to the Apple firmware. In Rockbox it takes ~7 seconds to boot and ~7 to shut back down. In the Apple firmware it takes 3 seconds to shut down and booting is essentially instantaneous. IMO this feautre would be a major improvment to Rockbox. At the very least it ought to be an option (if it does in fact waste battery). Are there really no developers interested in seeing this in Rockbox?
Comment by Linus Nielsen Feltzing (linusnielsen) - Thursday, 09 November 2006, 19:41 GMT
Well, I am a developer, and I'd rather see better performance and improved battery life.
Comment by Scott Myran (scottmyran) - Thursday, 09 November 2006, 20:24 GMT
Well yeah, so would I. There's still plenty of room for improvment in Rockbox (and there always will be), but I'd still like to see this implemented eventually.
Comment by valiant (moose) - Saturday, 14 July 2007, 21:08 GMT
No. That's a complete waiste of time, energy, and battery. I think people can wait an extra 2 or 4 seconds for rockbox to boot up. Sorry folks- but I'd rather see the developpers working on getting the batterylife under more control- hopefully we can make it to above 10 hours etc. Also playback improvement with eq and such- I always have eq off, except the hardware equilizer. I've got crossfeed on, replay gain on etc and I'm getting a good 7.5 hours out of the thing. Keep up the good work!
Comment by juuso (appleipodder) - Monday, 31 March 2008, 15:24 GMT
I agree, we need that function. Would be better if you could change it from settings to do either deep sleep or normal apple style sleep ;)
Comment by James Kanjo (jameskanjo) - Saturday, 05 April 2008, 08:53 GMT
valiant (moose), that is a very foolish thing to say. Considering that to boot up it uses a ton of battery life to spin up the hard disk, load the bootloader, load the RockBox firmware, and to write to the hard disk when quitting. Developers working on a sleep feature would essentially get the battery life under more control. Instead of remaining on when not playing, and writing to the hard-disk in order to shut down automatically when it is doing nothing, inevitably means the power draining boot up process needs to be repeated. If there was a sleep feature, where the hard-disk is turned off, and when the iPod is turned back on, rather than reloading from the hard-disk, it is allready in the RAM, and then it doesn't need to spin up the hard-disk , it doesn't need to load the bootloader, and doesn't need to read from the hard disk to load the firmware.

A sleep feature is not only a trivial want for faster start-up times, it is crucial for battery-power management (and also, which is worth mentioning, hard-disk life, which is also limited through usage).

<B><I>Cheers ~ James Kanjo</I></B>
Comment by Vishuash (VP_here) - Thursday, 10 April 2008, 07:35 GMT
I have been wanting this feature too, it is true that a lot of power is wasted during boots (sometimes it does happen so).
What I would like is the best of both worlds, and here is what I see/dream it as:

We have to timeout - Sleep timeout, and a DeepSleep Timeout.
1. I have my player in pause mode/not playing - and in the Sleep timeout(say 5 mins) - it goes in the Ipod kind sleep mode
2. I leave it untouched (say a DeepSleep timeout of 10mins) and it should go into Deep Sleep (Power OFF) meaning wll need a reboot.
3. If not it snaps back the player on.

What say RockBox'ers ?