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| 15:52:34 | irony | hello |
| 15:56:49 | Zagor | hi |
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| 16:08:03 | irony | hey Zagor |
| 16:08:15 | irony | you have insight into gpm and usb mice= |
| 16:08:26 | irony | i just cant get my mouse to work in console |
| 16:08:27 | Zagor | not much, i'm afraid |
| 16:08:56 | irony | ok :/ |
| 16:09:11 | irony | well off I go into the sun, while gnome2 is compiling =) |
| 16:09:15 | Zagor | hehe |
| 16:10:14 | irony | btw my jb died the other day .( |
| 16:10:17 | irony | it wont react |
| 16:10:27 | irony | i think ther eis something wrong with the disk |
| 16:10:32 | Zagor | oh? really dead? |
| 16:10:33 | irony | i disassembled it |
| 16:10:53 | irony | i figured i'd get a adaptor to connect the drive directly into the pc |
| 16:10:56 | irony | try to fix it |
| 16:11:06 | irony | cause right now it just starts and dies |
| 16:11:18 | Zagor | have you charged the batteries externally? |
| 16:11:21 | irony | with usb cable it plugs in, it's no but the drive letter won't show up |
| 16:11:30 | irony | nope, they have been inside all the time |
| 16:11:45 | Zagor | try that, if you can. it could be something with the charger |
| 16:11:59 | irony | but it doenst work even when attacked |
| 16:12:04 | irony | attached |
| 16:12:22 | Zagor | yes but the power cable only charges the batteries, it doesn't power the unit |
| 16:12:29 | irony | oh really? |
| 16:12:34 | irony | didnt know that ./ |
| 16:12:34 | Zagor | so if you have bad batteries attaching the power cable doesn't help |
| 16:13:01 | Hadaka | well, with the recorder, the power cable powers to unit as well - but it doesn't give enough power to spin up the HD |
| 16:13:33 | irony | k |
| 16:13:35 | Zagor | Hadaka: does it really? |
| 16:13:42 | irony | it does show "JukeBox version 5.03" |
| 16:13:46 | irony | and then shuts down |
| 16:13:51 | Hadaka | Zagor: yes |
| 16:13:54 | Zagor | irony: sounds like a power problem |
| 16:14:08 | Hadaka | Zagor: the unit runs with batteries removed totally |
| 16:14:25 | Hadaka | Zagor: just debugged these things with Linus before he went on vacation |
| 16:14:27 | irony | omg what have i done |
| 16:14:33 | irony | i have disassembled it |
| 16:14:34 | Zagor | Hadaka: ok |
| 16:14:36 | irony | i just found the prob |
| 16:15:03 | irony | the charger needed a 2 mm push to be properly connected to the outlet |
| 16:15:09 | irony | gotta assemble it again |
| 16:15:12 | Zagor | hehe |
| 16:15:12 | irony | geez...im stupid |
| 16:28:47 | irony | Zagor: to mount in linux |
| 16:28:51 | irony | is it /dev/sda7 ? |
| 16:29:36 | irony | ah figured it out, it was sda1 |
| 16:29:51 | Zagor | cat /proc/partitions |
| 16:30:17 | Hadaka | /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 :) |
| 16:30:20 | irony | with devfs, only the found devices shouw up in dev, right? |
| 16:30:27 | Hadaka | yup |
| 16:30:28 | Zagor | irony: yup |
| 16:30:29 | Hadaka | or |
| 16:30:29 | irony | ok |
| 16:30:34 | Hadaka | atleast for the long names |
| 16:30:40 | Hadaka | not so necessarily for short names |
| 16:30:43 | irony | thats why i got sda and sda1 only |
| 16:30:45 | irony | Hadaka: ok |
| 16:30:53 | irony | its really nice |
| 16:31:02 | Hadaka | well for hd* and sd* - I believe they are there only if found |
| 16:31:08 | Hadaka | but for some other stuff, it isn't necessarily so |
| 16:31:12 | irony | ok |
| 16:31:24 | irony | Hadaka: u have any insight into gpm and usb mice? |
| 16:31:34 | Hadaka | not really, don't use either myself |
| 16:31:52 | irony | ok =) |
| 16:32:11 | irony | well I have decided to try to abandon windows permanently |
| 16:32:13 | Zagor | do any of you here suffer from the "corrupted filename" bug? |
| 16:32:21 | irony | so yesterday i erased my xp and installed linux =) |
| 16:32:42 | irony | Zagor: well i get a strange filename in the rood dir with rockbox |
| 16:32:45 | irony | root |
| 16:32:53 | Zagor | irony: I never feel the need for mouse in console. I wouldn't worry about it. |
| 16:32:56 | irony | a file that isn't there, i believe if i remember it right |
| 16:33:16 | Zagor | irony: ok. could you make an image of the first few megs of the disk and dcc it to me? |
| 16:33:19 | Hadaka | I have needed a mouse in console, and used it, but not for a while now |
| 16:33:27 | Hadaka | not on machines where I always run X |
| 16:33:27 | irony | Zagor: I do have a (i think) working config for X, will see as soon as X is compiled |
| 16:33:31 | irony | Zagor: sec |
| 16:33:39 | irony | ehm |
| 16:33:54 | irony | the archos is fat or vfat? |
| 16:34:02 | Zagor | vfat |
| 16:34:04 | irony | cause i havent long filenames |
| 16:34:05 | irony | hmm |
| 16:34:08 | Hadaka | fat32 - mount as vfat |
| 16:34:10 | irony | i need ot mount properly |
| 16:34:39 | Hadaka | mount -t fat -o fat=32 |
| 16:34:41 | irony | now thats better |
| 16:34:44 | irony | yup |
| 16:34:48 | irony | -o ? |
| 16:34:48 | Hadaka | but vfat is good |
| 16:34:54 | Hadaka | autodetects and all |
| 16:34:55 | irony | i just use -t fat32 |
| 16:35:00 | irony | -t vfat i mean |
| 16:35:07 | Hadaka | yeah, that's ok |
| 16:35:26 | irony | Zagor: want me to try the latest build of rockbox first? |
| 16:35:31 | irony | havent tried in a little while |
| 16:35:55 | Zagor | irony: no, i haven't changed anything in the fat code |
| 16:36:10 | irony | wow heh i got sound in console wee |
| 16:36:11 | irony | =) |
| 16:36:18 | irony | need amixer |
| 16:36:36 | Hadaka | I use aumix for my needs |
| 16:36:47 | irony | i am just compiling it |
| 16:36:56 | irony | i kinda like gentoo now |
| 16:36:58 | irony | =) |
| 16:37:20 | irony | some ppl say that one could as well use fbsd with real ports, but still... |
| 16:37:36 | Zagor | people say all kinds of things :-) |
| 16:37:41 | Hadaka | gentoo is good |
| 16:37:53 | Hadaka | thouhg I haven't seen a reason to move away from debian yet |
| 16:37:59 | irony | i see |
| 16:38:16 | irony | well i had loads of problems with debian yesterday so i figured ill try gentoo |
| 16:38:26 | irony | cause i got way too many dependency problems |
| 16:38:36 | irony | i did use undstable though =) |
| 16:38:40 | Hadaka | funny how people get those |
| 16:38:43 | irony | but i wanted kde3 |
| 16:38:50 | irony | so... |
| 16:39:01 | Hadaka | ohh |
| 16:39:07 | irony | but now i've seen gnome2 and i think its absolutely great design wise |
| 16:39:07 | irony | =) |
| 16:39:42 | irony | ehm it wanted ot emerge xfree-4.2.0 for aumix so i killed it, since i am emerging x in the other window =) |
| 16:39:56 | irony | too bad, wonder why, i figured aumix was console |
| 16:41:01 | irony | oh it needs gtk+ |
| 16:41:05 | irony | hmm |
| 16:41:15 | irony | maybe i gots ome graphic aumix |
| 16:41:15 | Hadaka | err, aumix doesn't |
| 16:41:23 | Hadaka | aumix-gtk does |
| 16:41:31 | Hadaka | but that's your gentoo problems if you can't separate those two |
| 16:42:33 | irony | =) |
| 16:42:44 | irony | i just took a shot and did emerge aumix |
| 16:42:46 | irony | =) |
| 16:43:22 | irony | what the... |
| 16:44:27 | irony | well thats just great |
| 16:44:42 | irony | gotta go |
| 16:44:53 | Hadaka | bye |
| 16:45:35 | irony | bye |
| 16:48:50 | Zagor | dwihnos disk uses a bad partition type: 0x69 |
| 16:49:16 | Zagor | i need to add a check for that |
| 16:50:12 | Zagor | Hadaka: do you know the difference btwn types b,c,d,e,f ? |
| 16:50:25 | Zagor | c seems to the the most common |
| 16:50:49 | Hadaka | hmm |
| 16:51:30 | Hadaka | b,c,? or do you mean 0x6b? or what? |
| 16:51:41 | Zagor | oh, e is fat16. |
| 16:51:42 | Zagor | f is "Win95 extended" ? |
| 16:51:47 | Zagor | no 0x0b and 0x0c |
| 16:51:56 | Hadaka | oh |
| 16:52:12 | Zagor | both my archos and my win95 disk has 0x0c |
| 16:52:58 | Hadaka | b, win95 fat32 - c, win95 fat32 (lba) - e, win95 fat16 (lba) - f, Win95 Ext'd (LBA) |
| 16:53:44 | Zagor | yup. the question is will we ever see anything other than 0x0c for rockbox? |
| 16:54:01 | Hadaka | hmm |
| 16:54:38 | Hadaka | I think a disk as big as that cannot be accessed in any other mode - 0x0b might be the other choice |
| 16:55:10 | Hadaka | let's see in a moment what my linux formatter archos looks like |
| 16:55:21 | Hadaka | yeah, the same |
| 16:55:25 | Zagor | i think i'll check for 0x0c only and see if we get complaints |
| 16:55:33 | Hadaka | so I suppose 0x0C is the proper one |
| 16:55:47 | Hadaka | do you only check the first partition, or? |
| 16:56:24 | Zagor | today I blindly try to mount the first partition |
| 16:56:57 | Zagor | i'll add that it searches the four primary slots for 0x0c and mounts it if found |
| 16:58:16 | Hadaka | in the (far) future, I'd like to see my archos having a 16 megabyte fat partition which only has the .ajz - and then everything else as some decent filesystem |
| 16:58:54 | Zagor | the problem is that all decent filesystems are also more complex filesystems |
| 16:59:06 | Zagor | fat32 is pretty straight-forward |
| 16:59:27 | Zagor | but, sure, it's possible |
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| 17:00:06 | Hadaka | well the thing is - that for what archos would need, even iso9660 as a filesystem would do :) |
| 17:00:57 | Zagor | i don't know much about iso9660. isn't it limited to 8+3? (without extensions) |
| 17:00:57 | Hadaka | so what would be wanted is a filesystem that would be somehow writeable, would carry all unix information needed - and would survive crashes without a hinch |
| 17:01:04 | Hadaka | yes |
| 17:01:14 | Hadaka | and you can't really do a read-write iso9660 |
| 17:01:19 | Zagor | ok |
| 17:01:20 | Hadaka | the files are just stacked one after another |
| 17:07:31 | Hadaka | mistäköhän mä löytäsin jonkun IGS protokolla kuvauksen |
| 17:07:43 | Zagor | wrong windows? :) |
| 17:08:06 | Hadaka | argh, yes |
| 17:14:14 | Zagor | ah, dwihno's image was not the disk only the partition. bah. |
| 17:14:18 | Zagor | silly me |
| 17:14:36 | Hadaka | oof - might explain some stuff :P |
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| 19:02:47 | Linus | Hola! |
| 19:03:54 | Linus | modem link from my little island... |
| 19:04:06 | Linus | laptop....mirc... |
| 19:04:27 | Linus | but still coding rockbox |
| 19:04:54 | Linus | nope, i havent done anything on that one |
| 19:05:03 | Linus | i have added stack overflow checking |
| 19:05:49 | Linus | i had some probs with PPP and stuff so i havent committed anything yet |
| 19:06:04 | Linus | how´s the FAT problem going? |
| 19:06:35 | Linus | baaah |
| 19:07:01 | Linus | silly Windows tools... |
| 19:07:55 | Linus | great work, the RTC saving stuff... |
| 19:09:25 | Linus | i am so puzzled by the pitch problem on the Studio´s... |
| 19:09:52 | Linus | i wish i had it on my player, so i could debug it |
| 19:11:46 | Linus | especially when it changes when altering the volume |
| 19:13:01 | Linus | so when do you think we want to freeze 1.2? |
| 19:15:15 | Linus | and i want to fix the charger |
| 19:15:30 | Linus | bit it´s not far away |
| 19:20:49 | Linus | i want a way of showing the batttery status on the Recorder |
| 19:21:07 | Linus | like a status bar, similar to the stock firmware |
| 19:21:16 | Linus | maybe configurable |
| 19:22:10 | Linus | well, time to hang up |
| 19:22:22 | Linus | cu in a few... |
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| 19:57:58 | alexgit1 | I can send beginning of my HD. |
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| 20:01:32 | irony | i forgot to send |
| 20:01:33 | irony | heh |
| 20:01:37 | irony | alexgit1: u get the error too?= |
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| 21:20:40 | Zagor | bah, finally my isp wakes up again :-( |
| 21:20:54 | Zagor | ah, good! are you using windows or linux? |
| 21:22:07 | Zagor | hmm, do you know any program that will allow you to make a binary copy of the first few megs of your harddisk? |
| 21:23:02 | Zagor | yes, 'dd' can do that if cygwin gives you proper /dev entries? |
| 21:23:20 | Zagor | such as /dev/hda |
| 21:23:32 | Zagor | ok |
| 21:23:42 | Zagor | try rawrite, maybe it can do it |
| 21:24:37 | Zagor | dd if=/dev/sda of=disk.img bs=1M count=8 |
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| 21:30:24 | alexgit | HI, |
| 21:30:34 | alexgit | I can send my harddrive data |
| 21:30:57 | alexgit | to fix fat problem |
| 21:31:23 | Zagor | good. can you make an image of the first 16 megs, zip it hard and dcc it to me? |
| 21:31:57 | Zagor | mecraw: ok, nice. i need both your data. |
| 21:32:09 | alexgit | I can do it later tonight (my time) as I am at work now. |
| 21:32:18 | Zagor | ok |
| 21:32:34 | alexgit | There is other funny problem |
| 21:32:40 | Zagor | mecraw: give me those 8 megs and lets see if it's enough. i'm not sure how much I need. |
| 21:32:49 | alexgit | It seems to show something like JoanJettAnd... |
| 21:33:11 | alexgit | Inside there are some mp3 that came with Archos original fm |
| 21:33:34 | alexgit | There is no way for that stuff to be on the drive |
| 21:33:54 | alexgit | As I filled 96% of it and defragmented |
| 21:34:12 | alexgit | Windows don't show it either |
| 21:34:40 | Zagor | interesting. it's probably the same bug. |
| 21:35:08 | alexgit | Could it be stored in rom somewhere? |
| 21:35:17 | Zagor | there seems to be a problem. maybe it's my nat box playing tricks. hang on... |
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| 21:35:36 | Zagor | alexgit: no, it's likely just bad directory entries |
| 21:35:50 | Zagor | ok |
| 21:36:05 | Hadaka | oh btw, for the record dosfsck (or fsck.vfat) is excellent for fixing directory stuff if you are running linux |
| 21:36:09 | Zagor | hmm, do you have an ftp or http server we can take it through? |
| 21:36:55 | Hadaka | except that it couldn't fix this one problem where one of my directories does not happen to have the "." or ".." entries - it doesn't hurt me in any way though |
| 21:46:11 | Zagor | mecraw: "This folder is currently empty." |
| 21:46:58 | Zagor | i have an id and it says i'm logged in. |
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| 21:47:18 | Zagor | spamninja2001 :) |
| 21:47:54 | Zagor | ah, got it |
| 21:52:44 | Zagor | mecraw: what was the command line you used to make this? |
| 21:54:46 | Hadaka | hmmh, zagor needs the dump from the start of the whole drive, not just the partition |
| 21:54:47 | Zagor | it doesn't include the MBR, but then e: wouldn't contain that. |
| 21:54:55 | Zagor | actually just the partition works too |
| 21:55:06 | Zagor | i've modified the fat test code to handle it |
| 21:55:40 | Zagor | but the image is too small :( |
| 21:56:46 | Zagor | I need up to block 0x4b00... |
| 21:57:52 | Zagor | the images that don't work put the root dir wayyyy out in the middle of the disk :-( |
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| 22:08:07 | Zagor | mecraw: can you do the same but with 16 megs? |
| 22:08:44 | Zagor | the root dir on your partition is located just beyond 8 meg |
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| 22:08:59 | Zagor | dd if=/dev/sda of=disk.img bs=1M count=16 |
| 22:09:16 | Zagor | just use count=16 instead of count=8 on your last line |
| 22:10:27 | Zagor | looks good |
| 22:15:19 | Zagor | hehe |
| 22:16:40 | Zagor | crap |
| 22:17:16 | Zagor | sure, if it's a pure binary split |
| 22:23:37 | irony | back back |
| 22:23:46 | irony | Zagor: u vanted the first megs |
| 22:23:50 | irony | Zagor: how do i do it |
| 22:24:09 | Zagor | dd if=/dev/sda of=disk.img bs=1M count=16 |
| 22:24:11 | irony | dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/tmp/file.dat |
| 22:24:15 | irony | hehe |
| 22:24:19 | irony | good guess then |
| 22:24:20 | irony | =) |
| 22:24:29 | Hadaka | gah! |
| 22:24:34 | Hadaka | very different |
| 22:24:42 | Hadaka | always /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1 |
| 22:25:08 | irony | aha |
| 22:25:12 | irony | but hey it was a guess |
| 22:26:01 | irony | =) |
| 22:26:20 | irony | Zagor: here it comes |
| 22:26:52 | Zagor | ok |
| 22:27:14 | irony | dcc |
| 22:27:32 | irony | getting it? |
| 22:27:34 | Zagor | "no route to host" |
| 22:27:40 | irony | eh? |
| 22:27:44 | irony | wicked |
| 22:28:08 | irony | well.... |
| 22:29:04 | Zagor | uhhh, my harddisk is spewing errors! time for a replacement... |
| 22:29:53 | irony | Zagor: ill mail it to bjor@haxx.se then |
| 22:30:05 | irony | n |
| 22:30:12 | Zagor | how big is it? |
| 22:30:31 | irony | isnt 1M 1 mb |
| 22:30:45 | Zagor | yes. but please gzip -9 it first |
| 22:31:30 | Zagor | this is scary reboot time. |
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| 22:31:45 | irony | zure |
| 22:32:25 | irony | 16777206 bytes |
| 22:32:58 | irony | ehm is gzip -9 supposed to take this long |
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| 22:53:08 | Linus | yo! |
| 22:53:52 | Linus | sort of... :-) |
| 22:54:16 | Linus | vacation for me is to do what i want when i want |
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| 22:59:14 | Linus | don't know... |
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| 23:39:15 | Linus | i am working on stack overflow detection for the threads |
| 23:41:26 | Linus | :-) |
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