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| 01:32:17 | mecraw | Hi, Zagor |
| 01:32:43 | mecraw | How's the harddrive? |
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| 01:33:35 | Zagor | i've just spent a good chunk of my evening installing debian on a new 120-giger |
| 01:34:34 | mecraw | i've been trying to find a stack overflow that keeps me from playing anything on my ajbr20 |
| 01:34:43 | Zagor | the old one is toast. sometimes it doesn't even tell the BIOS that it's alive |
| 01:34:54 | Zagor | really? what happens? |
| 01:35:14 | mecraw | it just prints "Stkov" and doesn't respond |
| 01:35:27 | mecraw | it looks like Linus' code that he put in last night |
| 01:35:38 | Zagor | ah. what changes have you made? |
| 01:36:10 | mecraw | all i can tell is it's getting to a thread that doesn't exist |
| 01:36:42 | mecraw | i changed thread.c to print out the thread number, since it didn't give me a name |
| 01:36:56 | mecraw | and it printed out 6, when there are only 5 |
| 01:38:04 | Zagor | strange |
| 01:47:12 | mecraw | yours is working fine? |
| 01:47:36 | Zagor | yup |
| 01:48:01 | mecraw | any suggestions on what to look for? |
| 01:48:30 | Zagor | big variables, or recursive calls |
| 01:48:36 | Zagor | local variables, that is |
| 01:51:15 | mecraw | do you have an ajbr20? |
| 01:51:45 | Zagor | yes |
| 01:52:06 | mecraw | can you send me your ajz file? |
| 01:52:20 | Zagor | sure, hang on |
| 01:57:10 | mecraw | yours seems to be working |
| 01:57:19 | mecraw | spoke too soon |
| 01:58:26 | mecraw | it plays music fine, but now it says |
| 01:58:26 | mecraw | I09:CPUAdrEr |
| 01:58:26 | mecraw | at 09009438 |
| 01:58:41 | mecraw | and then stopped playing after a minute |
| 01:59:03 | Zagor | hmm |
| 01:59:09 | mecraw | and the red light blinks on and off |
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| 02:02:39 | Zagor | i'll be looking at that soon. right now i'm rebuilding my environment |
| 02:03:08 | mecraw | ok, i'm going to try to find a build that works for me |
| 02:20:05 | mecraw | Well, now it's working great. |
| 02:20:16 | mecraw | I got rid of all of my changes... |
| 02:20:39 | mecraw | which were only to display additional info and to enable proportional fonts |
| 02:20:50 | mecraw | Odd |
| 02:22:39 | Zagor | yes |
| 02:23:39 | mecraw | Do you have proportional fonts enabled? |
| 02:23:54 | Zagor | yes |
| 02:24:54 | mecraw | I guess I'll just call it a fluke and try to forget the past few hours. |
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| 08:34:53 | webmind | morning |
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| 10:56:02 | wavey | guys, i'm so impressed! |
| 10:56:12 | wavey | temendous work |
| 10:56:25 | Zagor | hey, wavey. long time no see! |
| 10:56:47 | wavey | i've been without net access for ages at work :/ |
| 10:57:00 | Zagor | ugh, that's painful |
| 10:57:07 | wavey | and i just tried rockbox 1.1 on my recorder |
| 10:57:13 | wavey | fan-fucking-tastic |
| 10:57:44 | Zagor | oh, just the 1.1? you should try the daily builds, they have progressed a lot since 1.1. |
| 10:57:51 | wavey | superb :) |
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| 11:59:42 | Zagor | åäöåöäöåöäöåöäöåöwtf? still no local chars :( |
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| 12:40:25 | Zagor | ah, works again |
| 12:40:34 | * | Zagor has a spankin' new Debian box now |
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| 12:51:28 | notch | just installed the latest daily build on my recorder6 |
| 12:51:56 | notch | works well but the skip function isnt working properly |
| 12:52:04 | Zagor | we have no skip :) |
| 12:52:08 | Zagor | only next/prev track |
| 12:52:17 | notch | thought that might be the case... |
| 12:52:17 | PsycoXul | thats what skip is |
| 12:52:26 | Zagor | and that one sometimes hops a track too many |
| 12:52:38 | Zagor | PsycoXul: oh, I though skip meant search. never mind. |
| 12:52:47 | PsycoXul | Zagor: you're thinking of seek |
| 12:52:48 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 12:52:54 | Zagor | right |
| 12:53:41 | PsycoXul | so did you commit the fix for undisplayed .blah? |
| 12:54:12 | Zagor | yup, it's fixed |
| 12:54:25 | Zagor | notch: what it the problem you're seeing? |
| 12:54:26 | PsycoXul | did that get in before today's daily? |
| 12:54:30 | Zagor | PsycoXul: yes |
| 12:56:53 | PsycoXul | ok and that would report version as CVS-020717? |
| 12:57:04 | Zagor | yeah, I hope so :) |
| 12:57:15 | PsycoXul | nice faster bootup time btw |
| 12:57:34 | Zagor | yeah, for some reason the harddisk always spun down when using the old method |
| 12:58:09 | PsycoXul | but my .dirs still don't show up |
| 12:58:10 | PsycoXul | :/ |
| 12:58:14 | Zagor | no? |
| 12:58:22 | PsycoXul | nope |
| 12:58:23 | Zagor | strange. ok, i need to look at that more then |
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| 13:03:28 | PsycoXul | oh yeah and is the backlight supposed to work? |
| 13:03:41 | Zagor | yup. doesn't it? |
| 13:03:45 | PsycoXul | on a studio20? |
| 13:03:53 | Zagor | ah, dunno about that |
| 13:05:53 | PsycoXul | btw i get clipping with the default sound settings.. in fact i have to turn the trebble way past the bass not to get clipping |
| 13:06:40 | Zagor | ok. i think maybe they are more tested on recorder than studio |
| 13:06:58 | PsycoXul | well a few dB past the bass, or more depending on the song |
| 13:07:26 | notch | Zagor: When holding >> down theres' no search, and the unit takes ages to recover - HDD stays on for a long time |
| 13:07:27 | PsycoXul | yeah whats up with that? i thought players were the primary target :p |
| 13:07:45 | PsycoXul | notch: yeah there's no search/seek |
| 13:07:54 | PsycoXul | notch: just skip |
| 13:08:38 | notch | Cool, just replying to Zagors's question a while ago... |
| 13:09:09 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 13:10:17 | Zagor | notch: yes, holding it down gives a repeat for "next" so it will skip a great number of songs forward. not to be recommended :-) |
| 13:10:28 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 13:11:01 | Zagor | the "next" handling is not very graceful either, so yes it's probably quite painful :) |
| 13:11:06 | notch | yep |
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| 13:43:21 | Zagor | oh, crap. now I'm in that cursor pointer mode again |
| 13:48:33 | Hadaka | oof, now I need some heavy duty linux kernel guys |
| 13:49:20 | Zagor | problems? |
| 13:49:36 | Zagor | i'll help if you remember how to get out of the mouse-mode in xfree86 :) |
| 13:49:52 | Hadaka | oh, shift-numlock :) |
| 13:49:57 | Hadaka | ..or something ;) |
| 13:50:22 | Zagor | heh, yeah that was it. damn, do I need to help you now? ;) |
| 13:50:51 | Hadaka | well not, unless you know how on earth is the 2.4.18 kernel limiting ARP replies to one per second |
| 13:51:10 | Hadaka | I've read the kernel source already - so if you are past that, then I want help :) |
| 13:51:44 | Zagor | whoa, nope sorry. try #kernelnewbies, lots of good people in there (despite the name) |
| 13:52:06 | Hadaka | oooh thanks! |
| 13:58:35 | Zagor | the mersenne code segfaults on me... |
| 13:59:22 | Hadaka | ouchie - yeah, wanted to mention that I hadn't had time to take a peek at it |
| 13:59:35 | Hadaka | I hope unsigned ints are 32-bit on that machine? |
| 13:59:45 | Zagor | yup |
| 13:59:52 | Hadaka | hmm, well have to see about that |
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| 14:00:02 | Zagor | it even crashes in the simulator. i don't see what's wrong. |
| 14:00:11 | Hadaka | hm |
| 14:05:02 | Hadaka | hmmh, works fine when I make an external program to check it |
| 14:05:06 | Hadaka | and works fine with valgrind |
| 14:05:16 | Hadaka | so I'd have to see the actual code - but a bit busy right now |
| 14:05:18 | Zagor | good idea, i'll try it separately |
| 14:05:50 | Hadaka | valgrind is wonderful for memory errors |
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| 14:24:50 | Zagor | yep, it works just fine standalone for me too |
| 14:25:41 | * | Zagor is puzzled |
| 14:34:13 | adi|home | zagor.. any chance of getting documentation of some kind as to what the info is displayd on the debug screen? |
| 14:34:30 | adi|home | and i go inactive for a week or so and you get a whole bunch of shit going dont ya ;) |
| 14:34:34 | Zagor | heh, it's self explanatory! ;) |
| 14:34:36 | adi|home | usb mode... |
| 14:34:41 | adi|home | heheh to you maybe.. |
| 14:34:46 | adi|home | but like battery.. |
| 14:34:52 | adi|home | is that current usage. |
| 14:34:56 | adi|home | or life expectancy |
| 14:35:44 | Zagor | it's the current voltage level. it seems to decrease fairly linearly. |
| 14:35:57 | Zagor | 0% is the shutoff level where things start not working |
| 14:36:27 | Zagor | it's the same value that is used to draw the battery indicator line in wps |
| 14:36:46 | adi|home | i haven't looked to much at the wps... |
| 14:36:49 | adi|home | gotta play with that. |
| 14:37:10 | adi|home | was getting usb working to tough? |
| 14:37:51 | Zagor | not really, we just had to make sure all the threads are aware of it so they don't start reading the disk |
| 14:38:01 | adi|home | nod |
| 14:38:16 | adi|home | okay.. this battery indicator line.. |
| 14:38:25 | adi|home | is that expect life of battery? |
| 14:38:33 | Zagor | no, it's just the voltage level |
| 14:38:37 | adi|home | or just the pull of juice _from_ the battery |
| 14:38:38 | adi|home | k... |
| 14:38:58 | adi|home | have we given much thought about how to figure out battery life? |
| 14:39:03 | adi|home | even if we can't recharge.. |
| 14:39:11 | adi|home | knowing when its going down would be useful. |
| 14:39:11 | Zagor | yes, a lot... it's not easy. |
| 14:40:01 | adi|home | i was afraid you were going to say that... |
| 14:40:06 | Zagor | basically, all devices make up battery life "from the hip". there is no scientific way to calculate it to any higer degree of certainty |
| 14:40:27 | adi|home | damn.. cause until we get the power plug recognized... rockbox isn't usable for me... damn shoddy battery contacts |
| 14:40:38 | adi|home | got ya... |
| 14:40:50 | Zagor | i charge it at night, the run it almost the whole day |
| 14:41:10 | Zagor | but charging is coming soon. it's written already, we just want to make sure we don't fry anything when we enable it... |
| 14:41:36 | adi|home | so we would have to do something along the lines running the battery dry... charging it full.. then starting the counter... |
| 14:41:52 | adi|home | then use the voltage drawn to "subtract" life time... |
| 14:42:19 | adi|home | and when we are plugged in.. add 'life time' for how ever long we are plugged in * voltage pulled from being plugged in? |
| 14:42:54 | Zagor | something like that. but then we don't know how much the charger actually charges, so it would never work anyway |
| 14:43:17 | adi|home | why don't we know how much the charge charges? |
| 14:43:23 | adi|home | we don't have a way of figuring that out? |
| 14:43:23 | Zagor | this voltage level seems to be a fairly good indication anyway |
| 14:43:37 | Zagor | no, we just know if it's connected. not voltage or current |
| 14:43:41 | adi|home | ie: less voltage, the shorter the life? |
| 14:43:46 | Zagor | yes |
| 14:44:04 | adi|home | well.. maybe we can use that... |
| 14:44:07 | adi|home | do a polling... |
| 14:44:17 | adi|home | balance for spikes and troughs... |
| 14:44:36 | Zagor | there are other problems too. no two brands of batteries work the same. |
| 14:44:56 | Zagor | charge current, peak voltage, dropoff curves etc. all different. |
| 14:44:58 | adi|home | so the voltage is then _not_ an idicator? |
| 14:45:15 | Zagor | it's an indicator. it's not to be trusted with your life :) |
| 14:45:34 | adi|home | i mean.. i would assuem anyways that is not a constant draw, menaing.. as the disk spins up, you pull more voltage.. no? |
| 14:46:34 | Zagor | more current, yes |
| 14:46:49 | adi|home | stupid physics :) |
| 14:46:50 | Zagor | which gives a voltage drop. you can see that on the battery line |
| 14:46:57 | adi|home | *nods* |
| 14:47:10 | adi|home | i wonder htf they do it on the archos |
| 14:47:43 | Zagor | to top it off, the charger units work very differently on player-old, player and recorder... |
| 14:47:57 | adi|home | figures... |
| 14:48:01 | adi|home | ehhehe on that note... |
| 14:48:08 | adi|home | im getting a few hours shut eye... |
| 14:48:16 | adi|home | be back soon.. thanks for the info... |
| 14:48:26 | adi|home | ill brain storm.. see if i can annoy you more later |
| 14:48:52 | Zagor | hehe, do so. night! |
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| 14:52:11 | elinenbe | morning all |
| 14:52:29 | Zagor | hi |
| 14:56:35 | elinenbe | Zagor: you should make the directory sort an option. |
| 14:56:42 | Zagor | really? |
| 14:56:55 | Zagor | without sort, it's just chaos |
| 14:56:55 | elinenbe | I quite liked having the directories in their alphabetic order |
| 14:57:06 | Zagor | oh, you mean which type of sort |
| 14:57:26 | elinenbe | leave the case insensitive there, but make the directories at the top an option. |
| 14:58:44 | Zagor | i was thinking about having playlists at the top too... yup, time for a new option |
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| 15:00:21 | elinenbe | that would be great |
| 15:00:48 | elinenbe | option: sort folders / sort playlists and folders / sort nothing |
| 15:17:05 | elinenbe | apple keynote is on... |
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| 15:51:03 | Zagor | found it. the mersenne random returns negative values. that breaks everything... |
| 15:57:40 | elinenbe | found what? |
| 15:57:56 | Zagor | the reason why the new random code didn't work |
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| 16:19:09 | Zagor | but there's more trouble. stack smashing... |
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| 16:51:06 | Zagor | gotta go. see you |
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| 18:04:46 | Linus | yo! |
| 18:05:04 | mecraw | Hi |
| 18:05:09 | Linus | any news? |
| 18:05:30 | mecraw | Besides the new 20GB iPod? |
| 18:05:37 | Linus | :-) |
| 18:05:38 | mecraw | :) |
| 18:06:01 | Linus | mecraw: I saw on the mailing list that my stack overflow code paid off instantly |
| 18:06:27 | mecraw | i actually had a problem with it yesterday... |
| 18:06:36 | mecraw | but i think i just had a faulty build |
| 18:06:48 | Linus | problem? |
| 18:07:02 | mecraw | It would just say "Stkov" and stop working... no thread name or nothing |
| 18:07:25 | Linus | badness |
| 18:07:27 | mecraw | i modified it to print out the thread number and it said thread_num was 6 |
| 18:07:42 | mecraw | even though 5 is the max right now |
| 18:07:50 | Linus | really strange |
| 18:08:13 | mecraw | very, but then just cleaned out all changed, make clean, then make, and all works great now |
| 18:08:19 | Linus | oh. ok |
| 18:10:07 | Linus | i missed the discussion on the fat32 probs |
| 18:10:15 | Linus | what was the actual problem? |
| 18:10:33 | Linus | did Xp create some strange backup directoriies or something? |
| 18:10:47 | mecraw | the munged directories were hidden system folders for windows |
| 18:11:38 | Linus | ah |
| 18:11:42 | mecraw | why didn't a thread name print out next to Stkov for the guy with the memset email? |
| 18:11:53 | Linus | good question |
| 18:13:19 | Linus | maybe i forgot to set the name for the main thread? |
| 18:13:42 | mecraw | no, it's set |
| 18:13:54 | mecraw | names are set for threads 0-5 |
| 18:14:06 | mecraw | somehow it gets past 5 |
| 18:14:21 | mecraw | that's what had me scratching my head yesterday |
| 18:14:26 | Linus | in your case, yes. But was that his problem? |
| 18:15:13 | mecraw | i don't know, probably though, since there was no name |
| 18:17:58 | mecraw | the 20GB iPod is $500 US and will take 5-7 weeks to ship... Rockbox will be kicking its ass by the time it arrives |
| 18:19:49 | Linus | hehe |
| 18:19:50 | Linus | i |
| 18:20:01 | Linus | i'll have a look at the stack overflow problem |
| 18:20:15 | Linus | i just have to reboot into Linux and resync my CVS |
| 18:20:20 | mecraw | Do you think the charging code will be ready by next week? I have an 18 hour road trip coming up. |
| 18:20:21 | Linus | maybe later tonight |
| 18:20:40 | Linus | ok. I'll try to do that |
| 18:20:47 | mecraw | no pressure :) |
| 18:21:04 | Linus | but you can always recharge it when it is shut off... |
| 18:21:11 | mecraw | true |
| 18:21:12 | elinenbe | LINUS!!! Hello! |
| 18:21:27 | mecraw | gotta go, see ya |
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| 18:22:58 | Linus | Hi elinenbe! |
| 18:24:19 | Linus | I'm on a laptop modem link from a small island outside the swedish coast. |
| 18:27:38 | Linus | and now i have to hang up |
| 18:27:40 | Linus | cu later |
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| 19:51:00 | elinenbe | Linus is back! |
| 19:51:13 | elinenbe | You should enjoy the island |
| 19:51:24 | Linus | i am |
| 19:52:25 | Linus | i just can't keep my hands off the rockbox |
| 19:52:30 | elinenbe | that is great |
| 19:53:12 | elinenbe | any progress? |
| 19:53:52 | Linus | my current build has major file system problems... |
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| 20:00:17 | Linus | make clean solved the problem |
| 20:01:32 | Linus | gotta go. bye |
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| 20:07:25 | Hes | Good evening. |
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| 20:16:44 | Evil_Mind | ,1 I m Using CoPy ScRiP~|~ MaDe By fowler-star ,1u can get the script in http://users.surfree.net.il/talred |
| 20:17:07 | Evil_Mind | any1 here? |
| 20:17:17 | Lovechild | yup.. |
| 20:17:48 | Evil_Mind | oh....can u tell me why the backligt is never on when i use rockbox? |
| 20:18:36 | Lovechild | Well my Recorder 10 hasn't arrived yet, I'm just hanging out hoping to catch some good juice |
| 20:18:53 | Evil_Mind | ... |
| 20:19:03 | Evil_Mind | how much it costs you? |
| 20:19:38 | Evil_Mind | the Recorder 10 ........ |
| 20:19:52 | Lovechild | 2500 DKK ~ 340 US½$ |
| 20:20:07 | Evil_Mind | 340$??????/ |
| 20:20:13 | Lovechild | hell yes |
| 20:20:17 | Evil_Mind | its alot of money.. |
| 20:20:23 | Lovechild | yup... |
| 20:20:27 | Lovechild | I needed a new toy |
| 20:20:46 | Lovechild | Then I heard about Rockbox earlier today and I was sold |
| 20:20:47 | Evil_Mind | i bought my studio 10 for 220$ |
| 20:21:56 | Lovechild | well, hardware is expensive here in Denmark |
| 20:22:43 | Evil_Mind | so ....fly to China....i bet it cost there atmost half the price.. |
| 20:23:12 | Lovechild | the plane ticket kinda would level that out right? |
| 20:24:13 | Evil_Mind | yes...but u can buy allllloooooootttt of thing in low prices and it will be worth it!.....(-: |
| 20:24:29 | Lovechild | so, I hear of alot of problems with the PSU for the Jukebox - Xp any of these ? |
| 20:24:42 | Evil_Mind | PSU=? |
| 20:24:54 | Lovechild | Power supæply Unit |
| 20:25:14 | Evil_Mind | what do you mean? |
| 20:25:20 | Evil_Mind | i got Xp... |
| 20:25:30 | Lovechild | experience |
| 20:25:40 | Evil_Mind | hu? |
| 20:26:10 | Lovechild | How hard is installation of RockBox anyways ? |
| 20:26:19 | Evil_Mind | its not hard at all... |
| 20:26:40 | Lovechild | cool... I'm looking forward to hooking it up to my Linux Boxen... |
| 20:26:47 | Evil_Mind | u just plug in the USB cable and download the drivers for Xp from archos site |
| 20:27:05 | Evil_Mind | oh...you have linux.. |
| 20:27:10 | Lovechild | damn... it requires Windows... shit... |
| 20:27:15 | Evil_Mind | no! |
| 20:27:22 | Lovechild | 8) Linux 8) |
| 20:27:23 | Evil_Mind | you can use it with linux... |
| 20:27:42 | Lovechild | I know, but I was hoping that the firmware update would be Linux native |
| 20:28:23 | Evil_Mind | i'm hopping for you....(-: |
| 20:29:21 | Lovechild | This probably means I have to find an idio^wfriend who has Windows on his machine to update my player |
| 20:29:38 | Evil_Mind | why? |
| 20:30:36 | Lovechild | well I can't update the firmware from Linux can I.... I bet nobody was smart enough to write a program for that while they were at it :9 |
| 20:31:33 | Evil_Mind | did u joined the mailing list? |
| 20:32:04 | Evil_Mind | i think the most "ACTION" take place there....(-: |
| 20:34:07 | Evil_Mind | http://bjorn.haxx.se/isd200/ |
| 20:34:32 | Lovechild | I'm already on the mailing list.. sign up an hour ago |
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| 21:03:34 | geoffeg | updating the firmware is as easy as dumping a file in the root dir i thought, i dont see why the OS you do it on matters |
| 21:04:42 | Lovechild | cool |
| 21:05:20 | Hadaka | you just need to get the firmware uncompressed |
| 21:05:47 | geoffeg | or get it from someone else, like me |
| 21:06:17 | geoffeg | linux has zip and rar |
| 21:06:34 | Hadaka | yup, I did it entirely on linux |
| 21:06:50 | Hadaka | just that some package was a self-extracting one (not the firmware-update) |
| 21:07:42 | geoffeg | right, but i believe you can extract self-extracting packages with the regular utilities, i may be wrong though |
| 21:07:44 | Lovechild | Iø'll figure it out... but first... encoding all my albums into MP3 VBR |
| 21:08:29 | Hadaka | any special reason why VBR? |
| 21:08:37 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 21:08:37 | * | geoffeg still use CBR, ive yet to like the quality that comes out of VBR for the file size |
| 21:08:53 | Lovechild | I think it's better quailty |
| 21:09:07 | Lovechild | while still conserving space |
| 21:09:08 | Hadaka | well, on lower bitrates, VBR is nice |
| 21:09:22 | Hadaka | but if you do 128kbit or 192kbit, CBR is actually often nicer |
| 21:09:30 | geoffeg | is 160/192 considered low? |
| 21:09:33 | Lovechild | −−r3mix rocks :) |
| 21:09:41 | geoffeg | −−r3mix is what? |
| 21:09:44 | Hadaka | to get the same quality, you'll have to get a pretty bit VBR file |
| 21:09:54 | Lovechild | man lame :) |
| 21:10:37 | Hadaka | I have heard a good VBR song - but the average bitrate on that was over 160kbit - and the size wasn't really that much smaller |
| 21:11:07 | geoffeg | right, which is why i dont use it, CBR seems to work quite nice. I'd like to use ogg BUT :) |
| 21:11:37 | Lovechild | OGG would be cool, but it seems to be hard to get the Archos box to support it |
| 21:12:02 | geoffeg | yeap, 1k is a little too small to get an audio codec into |
| 21:12:10 | geoffeg | well, a complex one |
| 21:12:41 | Lovechild | I bet we could figure out a workaround, but it would probably be nasty |
| 21:13:44 | geoffeg | wow, the −−r3mix option says to see r3mix.net and r3mix.net doesnt seem to say much about what −−r3mix means |
| 21:15:47 | Evil_Mind | r3mix???? |
| 21:16:15 | geoffeg | apparently −−r3mix means to use a website for encoding? |
| 21:17:17 | Lovechild | −−r3mix is the same as −−nspsytune −−vbr-mtrh -V1 -mj -h -b96 −−lowpass 19.5 −−athtype 3 −−ns-sfb21 2 -Z −−scale 0.98 -X0 |
| 21:17:45 | geoffeg | eek! |
| 21:17:53 | Lovechild | the site (www.r3mix.net) has more info on what it does |
| 21:19:25 | Evil_Mind | can someone tell me why the backligt is never on when i use rockbox? |
| 21:32:24 | Evil_Mind | ????????????????? |
| 21:32:37 | * | geoffeg tries the −−r3mix option and compares to 160 CBR |
| 21:32:39 | Lovechild | they apparently don't like you Evil_Mind :) |
| 21:32:46 | geoffeg | Evil_Mind: maybe it isnt implemented |
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| 21:33:57 | Lovechild | Oh Swan Lee is exellent... |
| 21:35:48 | Evil_Mind | i think so ....Lovechild... |
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| 22:24:19 | mecraw|meeting | Evil_Mind: which jukebox do you have? |
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| 22:55:39 | Evil_Mind | studio 10 |
| 22:55:49 | Evil_Mind | i have to go now... |
| 22:56:15 | Evil_Mind | bye....my email is shoval@hotmail.com |
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| 23:22:20 | mecraw | matp: working on anything? |
| 23:31:20 | PsycoXul | CBR is wasteful.. it uses up the entire bitrate for parts that don't need it, making parts that need a higher bitrate suffer |
| 23:31:50 | PsycoXul | VBR is almost always better quality in less or similar space |
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