| 00:47:02 | elinenbe | hi there Linus. |
| 00:47:08 | Linus | hoho |
| 00:47:08 | elinenbe | I am going to eat |
| 00:47:15 | elinenbe | A BIG BURGER |
| 00:47:25 | Linus | in the middle of the nigh???? :_) |
| 00:47:48 | Linus | i ate a big burger a few hours ago |
| 00:47:54 | Linus | with Björn |
| 00:49:36 | elinenbe | did you discuss low power mode? |
| 00:49:47 | Linus | yeah, a little |
| 00:50:11 | Linus | our current "OS" can't handle low poer mode |
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| 00:57:34 | kraptv | hey guys. awesome project. but with the current firmware, does it resemble the normal commercial firmware? |
| 00:57:49 | Linus | not really |
| 00:58:20 | Linus | we want to do it the way we want it without looking too much at the original |
| 00:59:17 | kraptv | What I meant was, as in current UI. |
| 00:59:22 | kraptv | The current version that is. |
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| 01:00:28 | Linus | i don't really understand you question. do you want to know if our firmware looks and works about the same as the original? |
| 01:00:49 | kraptv | Well, for now, yes. |
| 01:01:23 | kraptv | If you think I'm just asking stupid questions, I can leave and let you be..... :-) |
| 01:01:45 | Linus | our UI isn't all that pretty yet, but it works. and in many aspects it works better |
| 01:02:08 | Linus | our playlist handling is pretty good |
| 01:02:21 | kraptv | yeah, better randomization, right? |
| 01:02:26 | adi|home | stupid questions are our trademark... |
| 01:02:29 | adi|home | :) |
| 01:02:33 | Linus | yeah, and way faster loading |
| 01:02:36 | adi|home | better randomization... |
| 01:02:38 | adi|home | way faster loading |
| 01:02:41 | adi|home | screensavers |
| 01:02:42 | adi|home | tetris |
| 01:02:46 | kraptv | well, I saw the FAQ, so I won't ask about certain things..... |
| 01:02:47 | adi|home | other games |
| 01:02:48 | Linus | sokoban |
| 01:02:50 | kraptv | tetris?! |
| 01:02:53 | * | adi|home does flips |
| 01:02:55 | Linus | on recorder |
| 01:03:03 | adi|home | finnally someone that READ THE FAQ befor the came in... |
| 01:03:16 | * | adi|home votes kraptv 'Newbie of the day!' |
| 01:03:25 | kraptv | :...-( |
| 01:03:43 | * | adi|home points out that that wasn't sarcasm... |
| 01:03:46 | kraptv | The thing that sucks about the Archos is it's only USB1. Do you think they'll upgrade it to USB2? |
| 01:04:01 | Linus | the recorder20 has usb2 |
| 01:04:03 | adi|home | it should be usb2 if i remember |
| 01:04:05 | adi|home | nods |
| 01:04:14 | * | adi|home has a rec20 |
| 01:04:16 | Linus | and it ROCKS! |
| 01:04:24 | kraptv | Hmmm..... I bet it totally rips the systems. |
| 01:04:39 | kraptv | as in, KMFDM "RIP THE SYSTEM" |
| 01:04:49 | kraptv | not as in "dude, can you rip that new cd for me???" |
| 01:05:14 | Linus | kraptv: what model do you have? |
| 01:05:50 | kraptv | it's a Studio 20.... |
| 01:06:05 | kraptv | but it's not mine, my coworker in the cube across from mine just got one. |
| 01:06:16 | kraptv | It was for $269 for an "open box demo" |
| 01:06:50 | kraptv | AS I was with him when we got it. |
| 01:16:15 | Linus | ok, time to sleep |
| 01:16:41 | Linus | it's gonna be a long, buggy day tomorrow... |
| 01:17:08 | Linus | i and Björn discussed 1.2 today |
| 01:17:23 | kraptv | Linus: good luck on your work. |
| 01:17:31 | Linus | thanks |
| 01:17:47 | Linus | we will try to release 1.2 this weekend, or early next week |
| 01:18:30 | kraptv | nice. I will keep my eyes peeled and root you on. |
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| 01:20:00 | Linus | hehe, the ID3 handling in mpeg.c bugs big time! |
| 01:20:14 | Linus | fixing that will be my task for tomorrow |
| 01:20:38 | Lovechild | cool |
| 01:20:47 | Linus | very :-) |
| 01:21:15 | Linus | well, nigh all! |
| 01:21:16 | Lovechild | bug hunting is good, but fixing the charge "feature" would be even cooler :) |
| 01:21:18 | Linus | night |
| 01:21:26 | Lovechild | sleep tight |
| 01:21:31 | Linus | Björn doesn't want that in 1.2 |
| 01:21:51 | Linus | i happen to disagree... |
| 01:22:17 | Linus | but he has a point. it will be very untested if we release it this weekend |
| 01:23:08 | Linus | we talked about releasing 1.2 this weekend, and 1.3 very soon after that |
| 01:23:13 | Lovechild | cool, the release is scheduled for this weekend... |
| 01:23:48 | Linus | the 1.1 release sucks so much that we have to release what we have today |
| 01:23:51 | Lovechild | I seem to have better battery life on the stock firmware than rockbox cvs.. |
| 01:24:05 | Linus | i'm not surprised |
| 01:24:39 | Linus | still, we need to figure out what we can do to save battery |
| 01:25:02 | Lovechild | I thought rockbox did do plenty to live long and healthy |
| 01:25:29 | Linus | yeah, we try to keep the HD spinning to a minimum |
| 01:26:24 | Linus | but that is probably not all we can do |
| 01:26:24 | Lovechild | that's all good.. also the lcd seems to be backlight less often |
| 01:26:52 | Linus | maybe we need to put the CPU in low-power mode once in a while |
| 01:26:57 | PsycoXul | could have a backlight toggle, and a screen blanker.... |
| 01:27:04 | Linus | reduce the LCD updates |
| 01:27:34 | Lovechild | a screenblanker would be lovely |
| 01:29:24 | Linus | hehe. write one |
| 01:29:24 | Linus | we really need to find ways to conserve power |
| 01:29:24 | Linus | still, i think our features outweigh the shorter battery life |
| 01:29:26 | Linus | and i *have* to go to bed! |
| 01:29:34 | PsycoXul | night |
| 01:29:35 | Linus | night all! |
| 01:29:37 | Lovechild | night |
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| 01:30:00 | Lovechild | glad to see all the recorder enhancements that was commited today |
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| 11:56:49 | Bagder | g'day |
| 11:56:56 | Linus | NINJA! |
| 11:57:02 | Bagder | yay |
| 11:57:21 | Bagder | you've been doing good while I was gone |
| 11:58:02 | Linus | i have tried my best |
| 11:58:14 | Bagder | you on vacation or working? |
| 11:58:28 | Linus | working |
| 11:59:15 | Linus | your postcard arrived the same day you came home. :-) |
| 11:59:37 | Bagder | oh |
| 11:59:38 | Bagder | hehehe |
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| 12:00:19 | Bagder | took around three weeks then |
| 12:01:00 | Linus | not bad :-) |
| 12:18:04 | | Join notch [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) |
| 12:18:22 | notch | just looking through serial.c .... |
| 12:18:54 | notch | It looks like alan has written code for serial port1 ... ie the remote |
| 12:19:06 | notch | Is serial port 1 used for anything else? |
| 12:19:10 | Linus | oh, that one is way old, and not working |
| 12:19:34 | notch | I couldnt understand whay it would! |
| 12:19:37 | Linus | notch: i use it for the gdb debugger |
| 12:19:50 | notch | ahh... |
| 12:19:54 | Linus | but i don't use that code |
| 12:20:08 | Linus | feel free to rewrite it |
| 12:20:32 | notch | how would I check my code before submitting then? |
| 12:20:42 | notch | i.e. simulate it! |
| 12:20:50 | | Part Bagder |
| 12:21:05 | Linus | notch: you don't have an rs232 converter for your PC? |
| 12:21:26 | Linus | or a remote? |
| 12:21:53 | notch | I can build one, but if we use the serial poer for debugging, how will I test the remote off the same serial port? |
| 12:23:14 | Linus | since you don't have a gdb debugger it won't affect you |
| 12:23:24 | Linus | the gdb stub is a different .mod file |
| 12:23:38 | Linus | so far used only by me and Zagor |
| 12:23:46 | notch | okay... |
| 12:24:41 | notch | So I cant really simulate or 'step through', I just have to write it, and check it works, then mod it, and check again... |
| 12:25:00 | Linus | yup |
| 12:25:23 | notch | okay I've got the idea now :) will give it a go! |
| 12:25:30 | notch | Thanks for the help! |
| 12:25:39 | Linus | np |
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| 12:33:37 | matp|work | so 1.2 is set for this weekend? |
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| 12:35:46 | Linus | matp|work: we hope so |
| 12:36:14 | matp|work | any small bugs you want me to look at? how is the stability with these CPU errors? |
| 12:36:30 | Linus | matp|work: they should be ok, i guess |
| 12:36:37 | Linus | the cpu errors |
| 12:36:47 | Linus | yro has problems with his playlist |
| 12:37:26 | Linus | so playing a big (>1500 files) playlist is something you could try |
| 12:37:59 | matp|work | i do this all the time. i have a 2168 playlist |
| 12:38:36 | Linus | ok |
| 12:38:44 | matp|work | I did have a CPU error the other day. I think it was during track change. also, the batteries were low ... |
| 12:38:56 | Linus | then his problem might be something other than the playlist size |
| 12:39:19 | Linus | matp|work: what was the address, and what firmware version |
| 12:39:25 | matp|work | might his extended characters ? |
| 12:39:32 | Linus | yup |
| 12:40:35 | matp|work | errm, I logged it to irc a couple of days ago. I don;t think i got the address. I was driving at the time :( |
| 12:40:53 | matp|work | it was something like IO9. Cpu addr error |
| 12:45:19 | Linus | what date was it? |
| 12:45:56 | Linus | i fixed a bug in the mpeg bitswapping on the 24th, and i haven't seen any errors since |
| 12:50:48 | matp|work | I reckon it was 22nd or 23rd. you said it might be a bitswapping bug. I only ever saw it once. I've not seen it since the 24th. Are other people still seeing CPU errors? |
| 12:51:03 | Linus | no, not what i have heard of |
| 12:51:08 | Linus | not those ones |
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| 12:58:52 | Linus | i'm currently working on a very silly bug in the id3 info handling in mpeg.c |
| 12:59:59 | Linus | the id3 info of the current track gets overwritten when the next track is loading |
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| 13:00:27 | Linus | it was very hard to find... |
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| 13:02:11 | matp|work | i've noticed that before |
| 13:02:11 | alkorr | 'lo ! |
| 13:02:15 | matp|work | hi |
| 13:02:49 | alkorr | looks like Zagor and Bagder are in vacation :) |
| 13:03:15 | matp|work | I've also noticed that the time elapsed is slightly ahead |
| 13:04:14 | | Part alkorr |
| 13:04:58 | Linus | matp|work: ahead? Player or recorder? |
| 13:05:14 | Linus | what type of file? |
| 13:06:49 | matp|work | recorder |
| 13:07:17 | matp|work | let me check again more accurately |
| 13:16:01 | matp|work | I cant replicate it now. Maybe I imagined it. I need cue and review to get to the end of a track quickly ;) |
| 13:16:14 | matp|work | Ahh, it's just done it |
| 13:16:43 | matp|work | It counts past the end of the total track time |
| 13:16:51 | Linus | on the last song? |
| 13:17:07 | matp|work | what do you mean? |
| 13:17:39 | Linus | aha, now i see what you mean |
| 13:17:43 | matp|work | I've seen it get out of sync by a couple of seconds or more |
| 13:18:33 | matp|work | say the total track time is 1.23, the elapsed time counts past up to 1.25, sometimes more |
| 13:19:17 | matp|work | Now I'm pretty sure I've seen it load the id3 tags of the next song, while the previous one i playing. |
| 13:19:23 | matp|work | is |
| 13:20:03 | Linus | that may very well be the problem |
| 13:20:21 | Linus | it starts counting time before the next song has started playing |
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| 13:22:33 | Linus | yo |
| 13:23:46 | matp|work | yeah, it seems to cause some screen issues sometimes as well. like the artist might be missing, or the title. |
| 13:24:03 | matp|work | it usually rights itself when the next track is loaded in. |
| 13:24:09 | matp|work | hope this is useful. |
| 13:24:27 | matp|work | i gotta lunch.# |
| 13:24:40 | Linus | enjoy |
| 13:33:48 | Linus | what do you guys think the WPS should do after it finished playing tha last song? |
| 13:33:59 | Linus | go to the browser? |
| 13:34:06 | PsycoXul | be configurable! |
| 13:34:07 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 13:34:28 | Linus | display "no more files" |
| 13:34:42 | Linus | or just stay on the last song played? |
| 13:36:08 | PsycoXul | drop to browser/continue to next dir if not playlist... maybe go to next playlist? ... |
| 13:37:45 | Linus | going to the next dir is a little tricky as it is now. |
| 13:38:01 | Linus | maybe i'll just quit to the browser for now... |
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| 13:38:14 | Lovechild | afternoon all |
| 13:38:31 | Linus | afternoon! |
| 13:41:51 | Lovechild | so Linus, be doing any godlike hacking on this fine day (Sysadmin appreciation day btw) |
| 13:42:19 | Linus | i am fixing the silly id3/track change handling |
| 13:42:29 | Linus | sysadmin appreciation day, eh? |
| 13:43:08 | Lovechild | cool, I might downlaod yet another daily build today, I see lots of recorder specific changes so it might be worth it, now that I have my Archos working in Linux |
| 13:43:32 | Lovechild | Linus: no kidding... be thankful for your sysadmin, show him/her today |
| 13:43:48 | Linus | i want to kill the admin on my web hotel today |
| 13:44:11 | Linus | the /home disk is full |
| 13:44:19 | Lovechild | oh... putting him out of his misery, that could be considered thanks enough |
| 13:44:39 | Linus | :-) |
| 13:44:44 | Lovechild | what a moron... |
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| 13:49:24 | notch | Okay I have written some new C, but am haveing trouble compiling... |
| 13:49:52 | notch | I get 'make: Nothing to be done for all " even though I have changed the files... |
| 13:50:01 | notch | any ideas? |
| 13:50:51 | Linus | make clean |
| 13:51:12 | notch | Whooho! my first build! |
| 13:51:17 | notch | thanks |
| 13:52:01 | * | Lovechild isn't manly enough to build from CVS, relies on daliy builds :) |
| 13:52:26 | Linus | *cough*chicken*couch* |
| 13:52:58 | Lovechild | Linus: I just got the thing working with Linux this morning... compiling the software will wait untill later |
| 13:53:15 | Linus | USB2? |
| 13:53:40 | Lovechild | no regular USB, but I run devFS and it didn't like the new SCSI device very much |
| 13:53:49 | Linus | aaah |
| 13:54:56 | Lovechild | took some clever thinking, but now I should be able to run some automounting on it... if I should ever bother to do that... hand mounting is so much more manly |
| 13:55:40 | Lovechild | oh and I figured out the song selection bug I was having.... |
| 13:56:59 | Lovechild | there was a tiny bit of plastic stuck under one of the keys... all I had to do was remove it with a razor... |
| 13:57:43 | Linus | ?????????????? |
| 13:57:57 | notch | I withdraw my whooho!! |
| 13:58:42 | notch | It seems I'm getting 'Sh-elf-gcc: Not found' for most my source files... |
| 13:59:06 | notch | must be my setup? |
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| 14:00:21 | Lovechild | hrmm |
| 14:00:51 | notch | (whilst 'updating dependancies') |
| 14:02:45 | Linus | it is called sh-elf-gcc, not Sh-elf-gcc |
| 14:02:56 | | Nick notch is now known as notch|codandchip (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) |
| 14:03:01 | Linus | but i guess that was a typo |
| 14:03:18 | notch|codandchip | which part? |
| 14:06:25 | Linus | the misspelling |
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| 14:09:12 | Linus | woo. that was a short visit |
| 14:09:46 | Lovechild | lol |
| 14:11:01 | Linus | now the id3/track handling ROCKS! |
| 14:11:06 | Linus | well, works |
| 14:11:42 | Lovechild | Linus: what's new in it? |
| 14:11:58 | Linus | nothing new. it just works now |
| 14:12:41 | Lovechild | Linus: then what was wrong with it before, it seems to work on my recorder |
| 14:12:52 | Linus | now it uses less memory, displays the id3 info exactly when the track changes |
| 14:13:03 | Linus | and actually shows the correct info |
| 14:13:12 | Lovechild | less memory is good... |
| 14:13:33 | Linus | and also shows the correct time |
| 14:13:50 | Linus | well, it is only a few Kbytes |
| 14:14:29 | Lovechild | Linus: Lidt har også ret... :) |
| 14:16:00 | Linus | "små smulor är också bröd" |
| 14:17:18 | Lovechild | ja, det kan du jo ha ret i |
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| 14:58:47 | matp|work | so you fixed it then linus. that was quick work :) |
| 14:59:34 | Linus | it took some debugging, and some brain work (ouch) |
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| 15:03:22 | Lovechild | brainwork.. bad.... |
| 15:03:33 | Linus | fear it! |
| 15:03:34 | matp|work | what was the problem ? |
| 15:03:49 | matp|work | Brainwork on a Friday is definitely bad :) |
| 15:04:16 | Lovechild | Friday kinda brainwork..... locate beer... locate TV... |
| 15:04:37 | Linus | if the mp3 files had an odd length, the bitswapping could end up trying to swap data at odd addresses under certain circumstances |
| 15:07:00 | matp|work | Do we have a "repeat" mode ? |
| 15:07:07 | Linus | no |
| 15:07:30 | Linus | you mean restart from the beginning of the list when the playback has finished? |
| 15:07:41 | matp|work | yes |
| 15:07:50 | Linus | you have a task |
| 15:08:22 | matp|work | it does this by default I think. We need to turn it off. |
| 15:09:41 | Linus | wow, a bug! |
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| 15:10:08 | Linus | yo Zagor! |
| 15:10:23 | Linus | i have fixed the id3 bug now |
| 15:10:27 | notch | Sorted my build probs... Needed a PATH command.. Linux is not my first language! |
| 15:10:28 | Zagor | yo. just letting you know I'm packing up the computer now. blackout time. |
| 15:10:31 | Zagor | Linus: nice |
| 15:10:46 | Linus | did you find a modem? |
| 15:11:03 | Zagor | I have an old 14400 for starters. will talk to bagder about the 56k one. |
| 15:11:18 | Zagor | also I'll need some pppd instructions :) |
| 15:11:21 | Lovechild | notch: export PATH=$PATH:/path/you/want/to/add |
| 15:11:33 | notch | cheers! |
| 15:12:22 | Zagor | well, gotta go. see you all on the other side :) |
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| 15:30:05 | elinenbe | Linus: are you going to commit your changes anytime soon? I am heading camping with the Archos this weekend in a two hours, and I could use any bug fixes! |
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| 15:34:10 | notch | In a normal build, why would the make script to remove (rm -f ....) all of the output files? |
| 15:36:23 | Linus | notch: rephrase that question please |
| 15:36:38 | Linus | elinenbe: commits are coming... |
| 15:36:52 | notch | Okay, when I type make clean... |
| 15:38:13 | notch | I get: a few make commands listed and then lots of 'Updating dependacies for XXXX.c' |
| 15:38:49 | notch | Then 'make[2]: leaving...' |
| 15:39:12 | notch | Then 'make[2]: entering....' |
| 15:39:14 | Linus | yes? |
| 15:40:27 | notch | then 'rm -f <mydir>/adc.o <mydir>/ata.o <mydir>/dac.o' etc etc |
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| 15:40:50 | notch | so all my built files have been removed! |
| 15:41:48 | Linus | yes, that is what "make clean" is supposed to do |
| 15:41:57 | Linus | after that, type "make" |
| 15:42:15 | Linus | "clean" meabs...well..."clean" |
| 15:43:17 | Linus | means |
| 15:46:23 | notch | When I type make after 'make clean' I get : 'Nothing to be done for all' |
| 15:47:08 | Linus | what directory are you in? |
| 15:47:29 | mbr_ | notch: Can you please change ".PHONE" to ".PHONY" in Makefile and try again? |
| 15:48:16 | notch | in rthe source root ie just above 'firmware', 'apps' etc |
| 15:48:42 | Linus | wait a sec |
| 15:49:02 | Linus | that explains why the .PHONE bug affects you |
| 15:49:03 | mbr_ | There is a typo in configure |
| 15:49:27 | mbr_ | it produces ".PHONE"" instead of ".PHONY" in the Makefile |
| 15:49:42 | * | Lovechild is back |
| 15:49:50 | Linus | you should create a directory in the same dir as firmware/ and apps/ |
| 15:49:57 | pyvasene | Can anyone have a look at the patch I sent to the ML (UI language setting) ? |
| 15:49:57 | Linus | call it "player" or "recorder" |
| 15:50:11 | Linus | and run ../tools/configure in it |
| 15:50:34 | Linus | pyvasene: i will, but later |
| 15:50:57 | notch | okay i'll try that |
| 15:51:10 | pyvasene | linus : ok, thanks |
| 15:51:50 | notch | mbr_: Changing the .PHONE seems to work... |
| 15:52:12 | notch | mkdir |
| 15:52:20 | notch | opps wrong window! |
| 15:53:33 | Linus | haha. i just discovered a cute bug in mpeg.c |
| 15:53:55 | Linus | it won't play files that are shorter than the watermark level |
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| 16:03:04 | notch | I'm getting closer... :-) , It looks like I'm getting a build, but i get: '../tools/scramble: command not found' |
| 16:03:11 | notch | and error 127 |
| 16:03:36 | Linus | go to the tools/ dir ant type "make" there |
| 16:06:42 | notch | Whoa! I have a .ajz file :-))) I think I'm finally there! |
| 16:08:00 | notch | now to make a list of the changes Ive made so I don't have to ask (dumb) linux questions :-) |
| 16:09:29 | Lovechild | notch: still having trouble with your code? |
| 16:10:34 | notch | No I think I'm there... hopefully... Just saying that I need to make a list of notes so I dont have to pester you all! |
| 16:12:15 | Linus | notch: what is your name? |
| 16:12:26 | notch | Nick Robinson |
| 16:13:27 | Lovechild | are there any open bug which a slightly less than talented C++ programmer could figure out ? |
| 16:24:38 | Linus | Lovechild: no, none that i can think of right now |
| 16:25:19 | Lovechild | damn... then I'll just have to go entertain myself by reading the code... |
| 16:29:55 | Linus | Lovechild: we need some visual feedback when the keys are locked/unlocked on both Player and Recorder |
| 16:30:20 | Linus | wps.c |
| 16:31:53 | Linus | but don't change anything until i have committed my track change bug fix (2 more minutes) |
| 16:34:24 | Linus | done |
| 16:35:18 | Lovechild | Linus: I'll try to read the code tonight. |
| 16:36:05 | Linus | great, remember, 1.2 is close |
| 16:37:43 | Linus | pyvasene: i have looked at your patch |
| 16:37:53 | Lovechild | Linus: why use stable went CVS is so much more fun |
| 16:42:07 | Linus | :-) |
| 16:42:34 | Linus | And calling 1.1 stable isn't really fair... :-) |
| 16:42:45 | Lovechild | oh... never ran it... |
| 16:43:03 | Linus | notch: check my updater README and see if you want to add something |
| 16:43:06 | Linus | updated |
| 16:43:31 | notch | Will do! |
| 16:47:34 | notch | is the .PHONE now .PHONY |
| 16:48:13 | notch | in the makefile |
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| 16:49:59 | Linus- | network problems |
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| 16:50:14 | notch | and you need to add typing 'make' in the tools dir |
| 16:51:17 | Linus- | repeat that |
| 16:51:21 | Linus- | i was away |
| 16:51:22 | notch | is the .PHONE now .PHONY |
| 16:51:24 | notch | and you need to add typing 'make' in the tools dir |
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| 16:51:49 | Linus- | please update your CVS |
| 16:51:59 | Linus- | and read the README |
| 16:52:36 | notch | I've got the latest off sourceforge... Did I miss a comment? I'll read again.. |
| 16:54:00 | notch | I feel less of a man like lovechild as I rely on the daily builds... |
| 16:54:04 | Linus- | step 2) is typing 'make' in the tools dir |
| 16:54:42 | notch | yep, youre right spent too much time looking at code today ::-) |
| 16:55:37 | notch | no comments to add..... |
| 16:56:17 | Linus- | great! |
| 16:57:35 | Linus- | i have to catch the train now |
| 16:57:44 | Linus- | see you in an hour or so |
| 16:57:48 | notch | thanks for your help today |
| 16:58:12 | Linus- | np |
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| 17:01:30 | | Part Linus- |
| 17:02:16 | elinenbe | goodbye Linus- |
| 17:02:21 | notch | bye all |
| 17:02:26 | | Quit notch () |
| 17:03:47 | | Nick Lovechild is now known as DigtialPimp (~david@pc193015.stofanet.dk) |
| 17:04:02 | | Nick DigtialPimp is now known as DigitalPimp (~david@pc193015.stofanet.dk) |
| 17:05:50 | | Nick DigitalPimp is now known as Lovechild (~david@pc193015.stofanet.dk) |
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| 17:13:02 | pyvasene | linus : ok, so what do you think of the patch ? |
| 17:13:13 | pyvasene | oups, gone... :-) |
| 17:15:07 | elinenbe | later. |
| 17:15:08 | elinenbe | bye |
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| 18:31:05 | * | Lovechild is away: - breakin' the DMCA on stage |
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| 19:50:02 | mistaRx | Hallo anybody here?! |
| 19:50:19 | mistaRx | I've got a suggestion |
| 19:59:09 | * | Lovechild is back |
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| 20:01:32 | mistaRx | I think that you should prioritate remembering settings! |
| 20:02:19 | mistaRx | before u have fixed that the rockbox won't be worth using(not that I don't love the rockbox firmware) |
| 20:02:26 | Lovechild | Well honestly, untill Linus' charging changes goes in RockBox is rather useless for me |
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| 20:03:29 | mistaRx | what do u mean?! |
| 20:04:05 | Lovechild | mistaRx: RockBox can't charge the batteries while you're using it, only when it's shutdown... |
| 20:04:58 | Lovechild | and without chargning you go on batteries all the time... no matter if the power cord is plugged in... |
| 20:05:22 | Lovechild | but I love the Sokoban game.... |
| 20:05:57 | mistaRx | I've got the AJB6k player... |
| 20:06:21 | Lovechild | I have the Archos Recorder 10 |
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| 22:07:48 | Linus | have anyone tried the latest CVS the last hour or so? |
| 22:25:18 | | Join mistaRx [0] (mistaX@t2o975p47.telia.com) |
| 22:25:25 | Linus | hi |
| 22:28:05 | mistaRx | HI are u linus nielsen, the programmer?! |
| 22:28:24 | Linus | not the programmer, one of the programmers |
| 22:28:34 | Linus | but yes, i am linus nielsen feltzing |
| 22:29:23 | mistaRx | Pleez fix so the rockbox remembers my settings!!! =) |
| 22:29:55 | Linus | are you the swedish guy who filed two identical bug reports on that? |
| 22:29:58 | mistaRx | when will that come?! |
| 22:30:02 | Linus | :-) |
| 22:30:27 | mistaRx | maybe....................................................... |
| 22:30:31 | mistaRx | =) |
| 22:30:33 | Linus | A french guy volunteered to fix that. I don't know how far he has come |
| 22:30:52 | mistaRx | well when did he volunteer?! |
| 22:30:57 | Linus | writing to hard disk isn't to be taken lightly |
| 22:31:02 | Linus | yesterday |
| 22:31:44 | mistaRx | just wanted to say that I filed one mess about this in feature request and one in bug report.. |
| 22:32:12 | Linus | aha, i just saw the mails... |
| 22:32:30 | Linus | what model do you have? |
| 22:32:38 | mistaRx | AJB6k |
| 22:32:39 | mistaRx | why? |
| 22:32:41 | Linus | aJBP6k? |
| 22:32:47 | Linus | just windered |
| 22:32:51 | mistaRx | yeah |
| 22:32:54 | Linus | have you tried the latest build? |
| 22:33:20 | mistaRx | yeah listening to the player right now whith the new build, it doesn't remember |
| 22:33:25 | Linus | (not that it saves the settings, though) |
| 22:33:36 | mistaRx | .. |
| 22:33:46 | Linus | i wonder, do you have problems with distortion? |
| 22:33:56 | Linus | or pitch skew? |
| 22:33:57 | mistaRx | what is distortion?! |
| 22:34:26 | Linus | bad noises when you turn up the volume |
| 22:34:54 | mistaRx | when you change the volume or when you play at high volume |
| 22:34:59 | Linus | play at high |
| 22:35:06 | Linus | how old is your unit? |
| 22:35:32 | mistaRx | the old skool 4.09 hardware mod |
| 22:36:18 | Linus | ok, so you have the old LCD |
| 22:36:27 | Linus | almost as old as mine |
| 22:36:31 | Linus | 3.18 |
| 22:36:32 | mistaRx | guess so.. |
| 22:37:31 | Linus | do you feel that the scroll is too fast? |
| 22:37:49 | mistaRx | no |
| 22:37:56 | Linus | i do |
| 22:38:01 | mistaRx | well I get distortion on 84% |
| 22:38:07 | Linus | it may have to do with the contrast |
| 22:38:14 | mistaRx | 82% is ok |
| 22:38:27 | mistaRx | I've got 13dB on bass an treble |
| 22:38:45 | Linus | 13!!! |
| 22:38:49 | Linus | wow |
| 22:39:25 | mistaRx | well on the next song I got quite a bit of distortion! |
| 22:39:41 | Linus | no wonder, with those bass/treble settings... |
| 22:39:52 | mistaRx | changed to 12.. |
| 22:40:07 | mistaRx | I loooove bass!! |
| 22:40:36 | Linus | then you should buy the Recorder |
| 22:40:37 | mistaRx | I use sony ex70lp in ear closed ear buds |
| 22:40:42 | Linus | that one PUMPS |
| 22:40:55 | Linus | ex70 rox! |
| 22:41:09 | Linus | they are hard to come by |
| 22:41:19 | mistaRx | yes, no |
| 22:41:36 | mistaRx | where u from?! |
| 22:42:14 | Linus | i live in Stockholm |
| 22:42:43 | mistaRx | svenne?! |
| 22:42:50 | Linus | som fan |
| 22:43:05 | mistaRx | hur gammal?! |
| 22:43:11 | Linus | 33 |
| 22:43:51 | mistaRx | du verkar vara en av de mest aktiva programmerarna ere så lr?! |
| 22:44:13 | Linus | well, the other corde developers have been on vacation |
| 22:44:16 | Linus | core |
| 22:44:35 | mistaRx | roger that! |
| 22:45:19 | mistaRx | do you get less skips with the rockbox?! |
| 22:45:38 | Linus | skips? you mean when walking with the unit? |
| 22:45:54 | mistaRx | well yeah |
| 22:46:13 | Linus | no, rather the opposite. we don't handle skips at all |
| 22:46:17 | Linus | yet |
| 22:46:33 | Linus | one read error and the music stops |
| 22:46:43 | mistaRx | REALLY!! |
| 22:46:50 | Linus | yes |
| 22:47:39 | mistaRx | did you have ALOT of bugs with the archos firmware on your player?! |
| 22:48:10 | Linus | quite a few |
| 22:49:07 | mistaRx | like when you press to change the song it takes a while for it to load and then it messes up?! |
| 22:49:38 | mistaRx | I had does probs, and now I have rockbox!! =) |
| 22:51:00 | Linus | i had those crashes when loading a too long playlist |
| 22:51:35 | Linus | and when the unit shut off itself when loading it, because it took too long |
| 22:51:54 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 22:52:18 | mistaRx | what do u use your player to?! |
| 22:52:48 | mistaRx | HAHA vikken jäla svengelska! |
| 22:52:56 | Linus | i don't listen to music that much, i test the rockbox code on it once in a while |
| 22:53:08 | Linus | i mostly use my recorder |
| 22:53:38 | mistaRx | well what do u use your recorder for? |
| 22:54:02 | Linus | listen to music, mostly on my one-hour train rides to/from work |
| 22:54:10 | Linus | and debug rockbox code |
| 22:54:28 | mistaRx | what firmware do u use?! |
| 22:54:42 | Linus | rockbox, since months back |
| 22:56:14 | mistaRx | me too, since today.. |
| 22:57:00 | Linus | no wonder you hate that it doesn't save the settings, sinc you want to turn up the bass/treble every time you turn it on |
| 22:57:09 | mistaRx | my backlight doesn't work, does your work(on your player)?! |
| 22:57:16 | Linus | it doesn't? |
| 22:57:20 | mistaRx | =) |
| 22:57:28 | Linus | always on, or always off? |
| 22:58:33 | mistaRx | always off, sometimes it lights up for 1 or a half second and then fade out like it was "glapp" in it |
| 22:58:56 | Linus | does it light up when you press a key? |
| 22:59:01 | mistaRx | I'm thinking of using the guide to change the LED |
| 22:59:22 | mistaRx | no, VERY rarely! |
| 22:59:47 | Linus | but it works with the stock firmware? |
| 22:59:54 | mistaRx | the red and green LED indicator works, but not the backlight |
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| 23:00:09 | mistaRx | no not on neither of the firmware versions |
| 23:00:23 | Linus | ok, so it isn't a rockbox issue then? |
| 23:00:30 | mistaRx | no! |
| 23:00:35 | Linus | you scared me! |
| 23:00:44 | mistaRx | =) |
| 23:00:51 | Linus | we had trouble with thge backlight just a few days ago |
| 23:01:43 | Linus | can you make it light up by pushing slightly on the side of the display? |
| 23:03:54 | mistaRx | I just did it! but I can't get it back(don't know exacly where I pressed!!) |
| 23:04:28 | Linus | do you have a small phillips screwdriver? |
| 23:05:17 | mistaRx | http://www.mctubster.com/led.html do u think that would help?! |
| 23:05:52 | mistaRx | no I haven't got a PHILLIPS screwdriver but I've got a hell of a lot of screwdrivers |
| 23:06:17 | mistaRx | just tell me with screws I'm screwing on.. |
| 23:08:17 | Linus | unscrew the two small screws on each short side of the unit |
| 23:09:47 | mistaRx | I'll have to search for a screwdriver of that kind! |
| 23:10:25 | mistaRx | can't do that I'm sitting in my country house with the laptop and a telia modem connection! |
| 23:10:41 | mistaRx | cost to damn much! |
| 23:10:47 | Linus | never mind. the site you pointed me to tells it all |
| 23:11:18 | mistaRx | do u think it's the leds or "glapp"?! |
| 23:11:21 | Linus | you probably need to resolder those two points on the back of the display board |
| 23:13:42 | mistaRx | I'll do that |
| 23:14:36 | Linus | are you a programmer? |
| 23:14:51 | mistaRx | no |
| 23:16:26 | mistaRx | what do u call LED in swedish and do u know where to buy it?! |
| 23:17:59 | Linus | lysdiod, ELFA |
| 23:18:20 | Linus | are you skilled with a soldering iron? |
| 23:18:31 | mistaRx | my dad is.. |
| 23:18:35 | Linus | those LED:s are SMALL |
| 23:19:57 | mistaRx | jupp |
| 23:22:00 | mistaRx | canu help me finding the right LED on ELFA?! |
| 23:26:18 | Linus | i can try |
| 23:26:40 | Linus | the stupid farnell web site won't list the physical dimensions |
| 23:26:57 | mistaRx | you read my thoughts!! |
| 23:27:22 | mistaRx | but you can order directly from farnell.. |
| 23:28:42 | Linus | if you are a company, that is |
| 23:29:14 | mistaRx | ohh.. stupid me! |
| 23:29:54 | mistaRx | well why does the guide refere to farnell then, humm.. |
| 23:30:09 | Linus | beats me |
| 23:31:16 | mistaRx | are u shour(how do u spell it) are u in the SWEDISH farnell website?! |
| 23:31:50 | Linus | yes |
| 23:33:20 | mistaRx | I'll e-mail to the guy on the site |
| 23:33:37 | Linus | and it is spelled "sure" :-) |
| 23:34:43 | mistaRx | do u know if u can order without being a company in USA? |
| 23:35:42 | Linus | i don't know |
| 23:36:21 | Linus | but if you only find out the dimensions you can probably find equivalent LEDs at ELFA |
| 23:38:24 | mistaRx | yeah I'm mailig the guy who made the guide about the size of the LEDs |
| 23:56:47 | mistaRx | what does SMD LED mean?! |
| 23:57:15 | Linus | Surface Mounted Device, Light Emitting Diode |
| 23:57:31 | Linus | ytmonterad lysdiod |
| 23:59:26 | mistaRx | if u want to help to find the right LED you could go to the manufactor of the farnell LEDs homepage: www.agilent.com |
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