| 00:00:06 | Bagder | I try to make sure all contributors get added |
| 00:01:52 | ripnetuk | cool... this is a fun project... |
| 00:02:03 | Bagder | heck yes! ;-) |
| 00:02:30 | ripnetuk | must admit some (most?) of the hardware 'hit the metal' stuff is over my head, but its a cool way to learn |
| 00:03:44 | freshmaker | Hi, since rockbox 1.2 is almost there, what's the latest recommended daily snapshot? |
| 00:03:55 | Bagder | the latest ;-) |
| 00:03:57 | Lovechild | yeah, now on to recompiling kde.... |
| 00:04:19 | Bagder | freshmaker: its pretty solid and nicely working in fact |
| 00:04:29 | freshmaker | ah, thanx |
| 00:04:36 | Lovechild | any scheduler for merging the charging patches ? |
| 00:04:53 | Bagder | Lovechild: probably within a few days |
| 00:05:02 | Lovechild | Bagder: finally... |
| 00:05:07 | Bagder | yeps |
| 00:05:13 | Bagder | I miss the charging too |
| 00:05:33 | freshmaker | but charging in off-state was always working, right? |
| 00:05:40 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:05:43 | Lovechild | I use my recorder mostly as a part of my stereo so I'm rather much forced to use the original firmware |
| 00:06:36 | Bagder | I charge mine every night, and run out the batteries every day ;-) |
| 00:07:31 | ripnetuk | can I ask what the advantage was of moving some stuff to a different ram was the other day? was it moved to on-sh2 ram to save power / run quicker? |
| 00:07:48 | Lovechild | both I think |
| 00:07:53 | Bagder | yes, the code runs much faster in the internal ram |
| 00:08:03 | Bagder | so it loads quicker and thus saves battery |
| 00:08:12 | ripnetuk | cool |
| 00:08:20 | Bagder | and it updates the screen much faster too now |
| 00:08:32 | Bagder | 20ms compared to 36 previously |
| 00:08:38 | Lovechild | that's massive |
| 00:08:43 | ripnetuk | good stuff |
| 00:09:02 | Lovechild | I'm currently playing around with the idea to write a screen blanker, to save powa |
| 00:10:56 | ripnetuk | does neone else think the Archos remote control is crap? it EATS battaries like there is no tomorow (unless I have been buying half-dead cells) |
| 00:11:09 | * | Bagder has no remote |
| 00:11:35 | Lovechild | what remote control ? |
| 00:12:21 | ripnetuk | would it be possible to use the input as a digital input, with a single push switch, without a hardware mod - all I really want is volume/pause, and old Sony walkmen had one button with different number of presses for different functions... could we tell the SH chip to float it high, and pull it to earth through a switch, to save having a power source in it? |
| 00:13:33 | Bagder | I don't think we can do that, but I'm not at all that oriented in the hw to tell for sure |
| 00:14:12 | Lovechild | ripnetuk: should be easy to make a circuit that would do that, but implementing the hardware would be harder I think |
| 00:14:13 | ripnetuk | k |
| 00:14:46 | ripnetuk | i was thinking of something really simple, but i guess getting the +5v for the 1 would be impossible |
| 00:15:58 | Lovechild | ripnetuk: well depending on what the box uses as high that might be dangerous, but sure it would work. |
| 00:16:14 | ripnetuk | ok, i dont want to endanger my favorate toy |
| 00:19:28 | Lovechild | ripnetuk: well I think it would be easier to map one of the Fx keys to do that |
| 00:20:30 | ripnetuk | anyway, gotta sleep, catch you guys later |
| 00:20:37 | Bagder | night ripnetuk |
| 00:20:41 | Lovechild | sleep tight |
| 00:20:41 | ripnetuk | night |
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| 00:30:20 | Bagder | hey matsl |
| 00:30:36 | matsl | Hey. |
| 00:33:17 | Hes_ | Bagder: nope, I don't have CVS access, expecting Linus to merge the charger code after playing it for a while |
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| 00:33:31 | Bagder | ok |
| 00:34:11 | Hes | now that he's tested code, and a few others too |
| 00:34:48 | matsl | How far of is 1.2? |
| 00:35:05 | Bagder | matsl: just days now |
| 00:35:30 | matsl | Any chans of changeing the default wps screen for 1,2? |
| 00:35:34 | Bagder | there's a distortion bug we wanted to attempt to fix first |
| 00:35:52 | Bagder | matsl: you have any patch pending? |
| 00:36:45 | matsl | Sort of but these UI things are a lot a subject of opinion |
| 00:37:05 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:37:37 | Bagder | but I favour doing it one way first and having that way tested out, than just discussion theories on the list |
| 00:38:08 | matsl | Bagder: Yes I know but my patches don't get in either ;-) |
| 00:38:16 | Hes | z ! |
| 00:38:21 | Bagder | hehe |
| 00:38:57 | Bagder | we're actually too few that applies patches |
| 00:39:09 | matsl | Bagder: So I just wanted to know if there would be any idea to supply a patch at this stage. |
| 00:39:19 | Bagder | sure |
| 00:39:27 | Bagder | keep 'em coming ;-) |
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| 00:40:29 | darkhollow | hello rockboxers! |
| 00:41:00 | matsl | Bagder: Should I resubmit the once I already have posted? |
| 00:41:14 | Bagder | please do |
| 00:42:12 | dwihno | Bagder: How many colors are allowed in the t-shirt contest? :) |
| 00:42:15 | matsl | Bagder: Ok! |
| 00:42:34 | Bagder | dwihno: basicly any amount, it'll be a full-color print |
| 00:42:46 | darkhollow | can anyone answer this question? −− i recently recorded a band practice using the archos std firmware, but instead of pressing the 'stop' button when ending the recording, i just turned the unit off. now the file is no where to be found, but it must be on the disk somewhere right? is there any way to recover it? |
| 00:43:48 | dwihno | Bagder: ah, such a luxury ;D |
| 00:46:44 | matsl | What is the status of text input? |
| 00:47:03 | Bagder | text input? |
| 00:47:40 | darkhollow | like the onscreen keypad on the recorder, for filenames, etc? |
| 00:47:42 | matsl | bagder: Jepp! I have done a small text input experiment. |
| 00:48:02 | Bagder | aha |
| 00:48:19 | matsl | Havent seen the recorder so I don't know what it can do. |
| 00:48:38 | darkhollow | i havent seen the player... |
| 00:48:58 | darkhollow | on the recorder, you can enter id3 info for the song you're recording |
| 00:49:23 | matsl | ok. |
| 00:50:24 | darkhollow | does anyone have a clue about recovering that lost recording? i know it's not rockbox related, but it would be super helpful... |
| 00:50:37 | darkhollow | for me that is :-) |
| 00:50:52 | Bagder | darkhollow: probably using some kind of checkdisk utility or something |
| 00:52:02 | darkhollow | alright. i'll give it a try and hope for the best. gotta untie the phone line though. thanks, cu l8er |
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| 01:06:49 | Bagder | "Open Source, basically, is about hanging out with the cool guys." |
| 01:06:54 | Bagder | http://www.viridiandesign.org/notes/301-350/00325_open_source_speech.html |
| 01:16:13 | matsl | Need some sleep ;-) cu |
| 01:16:19 | Bagder | night matsl |
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| 07:13:35 | Linus | haha! i was here before Bagder! |
| 07:18:36 | elinenbe|out | Linus!!! |
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| 07:18:46 | elinenbe | it is a late night here. |
| 07:18:52 | elinenbe | I made a nice little patch. |
| 07:18:54 | Linus | early morning here |
| 07:19:05 | elinenbe | it speeds up the directory browsing. |
| 07:19:13 | Linus | wow. |
| 07:19:16 | elinenbe | considerable. |
| 07:19:17 | Linus | how? |
| 07:19:27 | elinenbe | well, it is for the recorder. |
| 07:19:45 | elinenbe | when you press down, it will go file by file for the first 8 files |
| 07:19:53 | elinenbe | and then it will go screen by screen. |
| 07:20:12 | elinenbe | it works great! |
| 07:20:55 | Linus | send it to the list |
| 07:21:03 | elinenbe | I will get it out in a few. |
| 07:21:06 | Linus | that is what people have been waiting for |
| 07:21:38 | elinenbe | well, it is only for the down button. |
| 07:21:48 | elinenbe | also, is there a hold down event? |
| 07:22:14 | elinenbe | I have 290 files in my directory and it takes 8 times quicker to browse them... |
| 07:22:14 | Linus | the repeated keys have the BUTTON_REPEAT bit set |
| 07:22:25 | elinenbe | ahhh... |
| 07:22:40 | Linus | case BUTTON_DOWN | BUTTON_REPEAT |
| 07:22:48 | elinenbe | well, I will send this off to the list, but then I will clean it up to use that. |
| 07:23:00 | elinenbe | ahhhhh! |
| 07:23:02 | elinenbe | duh! |
| 07:23:04 | elinenbe | well :-) |
| 07:23:54 | Linus | make sure it compiles for player too |
| 07:24:16 | elinenbe | yeah, I will do that. |
| 07:27:18 | elinenbe | the patch will not do too much for the player. |
| 07:27:40 | elinenbe | with only 2 lines, it is quite hard to achieve the same result. |
| 07:27:54 | Linus | of course |
| 07:36:17 | elinenbe | Linus: you there? |
| 07:37:48 | Linus | yup |
| 07:38:36 | elinenbe | try it out and tell me what you think |
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| 07:39:57 | Bagder | morning |
| 07:39:57 | elinenbe | hello Badger |
| 07:39:58 | elinenbe | try the patch I just sent out! |
| 07:40:01 | elinenbe | it is quite fun! |
| 07:40:19 | Bagder | ah, cool |
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| 07:41:21 | Linus | yo Bagder! |
| 07:41:45 | Bagder | Linus: we should get Björn to make one or both of us admins on sourceforge |
| 07:42:02 | Linus | aren't we? |
| 07:42:13 | Bagder | nope |
| 07:42:29 | Linus | that sucks |
| 07:42:37 | elinenbe_ | I need input on the patch. |
| 07:42:51 | Bagder | yes, since only Björn can add project team members as it is right now |
| 07:42:54 | elinenbe_ | I am falling asleep here. |
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| 07:43:32 | Bagder | elinenbe|deepsle: I can't try it for real until when I get home tonight |
| 07:43:43 | Bagder | I bet it won't work as nicely when run simulated |
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| 07:43:48 | elinenbe|dead | night |
| 07:44:30 | Linus | Bagder: i can update the tracker settings, can't you? |
| 07:44:40 | Bagder | yes I can |
| 07:44:56 | Linus | elinenbe|dead: looks ok, but i would have used the REPEAT feature |
| 07:45:13 | elinenbe|dead | I would have used it too! |
| 07:45:21 | elinenbe|dead | I will redo in the morning. |
| 07:45:27 | Linus | increasing the speed for every repeated key, and resetting it for every unrepetated key |
| 07:45:45 | elinenbe|dead | well, increasing the speed doesn;t work well. |
| 07:45:54 | elinenbe|dead | I tried it on 4 people here today. |
| 07:46:03 | elinenbe|dead | no one liked it when it just skipped displaying files. |
| 07:46:16 | Linus | it is very easy, just let the case:s switch place and fall through |
| 07:46:23 | elinenbe|dead | I understand that. |
| 07:46:40 | elinenbe|dead | but to incrementally increase the speed is not as good as it sounds. |
| 07:46:44 | Linus | ok |
| 07:47:01 | elinenbe|dead | if it skips showing lines on the screen, that is bad. |
| 07:47:04 | elinenbe|dead | goodnight. |
| 07:47:14 | elinenbe|dead | where is Zagor anyway? |
| 07:47:46 | Bagder | he just recently moved and has only an old 14k4 modem connection for the moment ;-) |
| 07:49:53 | Linus | elinenbe|dead: the speed can be actual speed, not "number of lines per scroll" |
| 07:50:43 | elinenbe|dead | well, it is at max speed already −− right? |
| 07:50:50 | elinenbe|dead | so, we would make it go slower? |
| 07:51:05 | Linus | no, not really |
| 07:51:20 | Linus | i forgot that we already did it as fast as the repeat speed |
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| 08:13:27 | Bagder | http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/tshirt-contest/designs.html |
| 08:13:42 | * | Bagder reminds people ;-) |
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| 09:19:12 | webmind | morning |
| 09:19:17 | Linus | morn |
| 09:22:25 | webmind | can't reach server |
| 09:22:59 | | Nick mbr|gone is now known as mbr (~tiw4mabr@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) |
| 09:23:04 | mbr | Morning |
| 09:23:08 | webmind | morning |
| 09:24:31 | Linus | webmind: which server? |
| 09:24:38 | webmind | webserver |
| 09:24:41 | webmind | but ehm |
| 09:24:45 | Linus | rockbox server? |
| 09:24:46 | webmind | could be a problem here |
| 09:24:51 | webmind | that url i just got |
| 09:24:51 | Linus | i can reach it |
| 09:24:57 | Bagder | works fine here too |
| 09:33:48 | Linus | mbr: you had problems with the RTC halting the updates, right? |
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| 09:35:29 | mbr | Yes. |
| 09:35:46 | edx | morning. |
| 09:35:55 | Linus | i found that rtc_read() didn't send a STOP condition on the I2C bus |
| 09:36:13 | Linus | that causes the RTC to stop updating the registers |
| 09:36:16 | mbr | That fixes the update problem? |
| 09:36:35 | Linus | until a STOP condition is found, or you read a non-clock register |
| 09:36:42 | mbr | I written a rtc_init() function, but I still loose about 30 Seconds on a reboot . |
| 09:36:44 | Linus | that should fix the update problem |
| 09:37:21 | Linus | remove the rtc_init and try again |
| 09:37:33 | mbr | I will try it. I also saw, that you commited my rtc_init(). Was it an accident? |
| 09:37:38 | Linus | yes |
| 09:37:41 | mbr | OK |
| 09:38:55 | webmind | odd |
| 09:38:59 | webmind | still doesn't work |
| 09:40:51 | mbr | Same here. Clock is still halted after reboot. |
| 09:41:31 | adi|home | linus.. with the t-shirt contest |
| 09:41:41 | adi|home | was there a specific reason we can't do both a front and back? |
| 09:42:20 | Linus | can't we? |
| 09:42:33 | Bagder | not really, I've just saved one side for a Haxx logo or something |
| 09:42:46 | adi|home | ahh.. okay... |
| 09:42:49 | Linus | oh, now i remember |
| 09:42:58 | adi|home | is that the reason? |
| 09:43:19 | Linus | yes |
| 09:43:31 | adi|home | so the idea being our design on front, theirs on the back? |
| 09:43:33 | adi|home | or vice versa? |
| 09:43:44 | Linus | something like that |
| 09:43:56 | Hadaka | hm |
| 09:43:57 | adi|home | hmmm... |
| 09:44:00 | adi|home | i have an idea... |
| 09:44:02 | Linus | shoot |
| 09:44:03 | Hadaka | changing batteries didn't help and the batteries seem fine |
| 09:44:16 | Linus | Hadaka: time to return your unit |
| 09:44:47 | Hadaka | actually - this feels _very_ much like the same thing that happens when you have a broken cord in your earphones - you twist and shake it - sometimes it sounds fine, sometimes nothing comes out, sometimes it just cracles |
| 09:45:19 | adi|home | http://www.haxx.se/who.html |
| 09:45:20 | adi|home | heheheheheheheeh |
| 09:45:25 | Linus | Hadaka: probably bad soldering |
| 09:45:34 | Bagder | adi|home: *bing* ;-) |
| 09:45:43 | adi|home | hehehe sooooo sexy ;) |
| 09:45:46 | Hadaka | hmm, whine |
| 09:45:50 | * | Bagder giggles |
| 09:46:30 | adi|home | any chance you could give me a better haxx logo then the one in the corner of the website? |
| 09:46:40 | Bagder | certainly |
| 09:46:44 | Bagder | hang on |
| 09:46:47 | adi|home | ty |
| 09:48:09 | Bagder | hm, now where is it... :-) |
| 09:48:41 | adi|home | lol |
| 09:49:09 | Hadaka | I wouldn't want to wait for my unit to go ship somewhere and be possibly fixed and then shipped back to me |
| 09:50:14 | Linus | Hadaka: then open your unit and fix it |
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| 10:00:30 | adi|home | courtesy |
| 10:00:41 | adi|home | is that the correct spelling? |
| 10:00:50 | adi|home | nm |
| 10:00:57 | Bagder | yes |
| 10:01:09 | * | Bagder ran ispell in his emacs ;-) |
| 10:05:12 | Linus | mbr: i know why you lose 30 secs |
| 10:05:36 | mbr | Cool, why? |
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| 10:05:43 | Bagder | dr Zagor! |
| 10:05:55 | webmind | bleh.. found problem.. opera dns caching |
| 10:06:01 | Zagor | hey guys, i'm back. |
| 10:06:17 | Linus | mbr: my backlight_init resets the stop bit, clearing the seconds register in the process |
| 10:06:18 | Bagder | welcome you modem weenie ;-) |
| 10:06:26 | Zagor | shhh! :-) |
| 10:06:31 | Linus | caveman |
| 10:06:51 | Linus | mbr: i am fixing it now |
| 10:07:10 | webmind | Zagor, your black ?? |
| 10:07:35 | Zagor | yeah, bro! ;) |
| 10:10:33 | Bagder | uh-oh, ESR steps in... |
| 10:10:48 | Zagor | where? |
| 10:10:55 | Bagder | libcurl mailing list |
| 10:11:03 | Linus | i saw it |
| 10:11:05 | dwihno | morning dudes! :D |
| 10:11:17 | Linus | morn |
| 10:11:28 | Zagor | watch out for concealed handguns :) |
| 10:11:35 | Bagder | heheh |
| 10:11:41 | Bagder | and don |
| 10:11:46 | Bagder | 't mention bitkeeper |
| 10:12:20 | adi|home | hmm what i miss? |
| 10:12:53 | Linus | ESR is Eric S Raymond |
| 10:13:00 | Linus | kind of a celebrity |
| 10:14:14 | dwihno | *yawn* |
| 10:14:21 | dwihno | I am so not-bright-as-rain! |
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| 10:16:04 | Linus | hi MeRWiN |
| 10:16:13 | Linus | mbr: fixes committed |
| 10:16:31 | mbr | I'll try it |
| 10:17:09 | MeRWiN | hey linus |
| 10:18:16 | Hes | Morning |
| 10:18:20 | MeRWiN | morn |
| 10:18:23 | Linus | hi Hes |
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| 10:20:23 | webmind | is there a vote thingie or something for the tshirt contest ? |
| 10:20:45 | Linus | webmind: there will be, when the submission period is ovber |
| 10:20:48 | Bagder | webmind: we're still only accepting submissions |
| 10:20:55 | webmind | ok |
| 10:21:01 | webmind | hm |
| 10:21:08 | webmind | no pain program here.. |
| 10:21:21 | Zagor | Bagder, linus: you two are now SF admins |
| 10:21:26 | mbr | Linus: There is a include to powermgmt.h in apps/main.c |
| 10:21:27 | Bagder | okidoki |
| 10:21:33 | Linus | That calls for celebration!!!!! |
| 10:21:37 | Linus | COFFEE! |
| 10:21:47 | Bagder | *RED BUILDS* |
| 10:21:48 | Bagder | *RED BUILDS* |
| 10:21:52 | Linus | mbr: i am silly |
| 10:22:12 | Bagder | hm, my script seems to have gone bananas on that |
| 10:22:15 | Linus | i had the chargin patch applied by mistake |
| 10:22:47 | Hes | Whoops 8-) |
| 10:23:08 | Bagder | Hes: you got a sf account name? |
| 10:23:26 | Hes | hessuh |
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| 10:29:01 | Bagder | Linus/Zagor: I'll mail Arne |
| 10:31:06 | Bagder | coffee |
| 10:34:01 | Bagder | does anyone actually work on the improved full-dir playing? |
| 10:35:52 | Linus | i am about to start |
| 10:35:59 | Bagder | ok! ;-) |
| 10:36:36 | Linus | MeRWiN: dod you do anything on the RAM playlists? |
| 10:36:38 | Linus | did |
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| 10:45:57 | Bagder | is the charger patch going in soonish? |
| 10:46:11 | * | Zagor just got a ROLO in the mail... |
| 10:46:17 | Bagder | *kewl* |
| 10:46:36 | MeRWiN | i would much rather get a snickers bar in the mail |
| 10:46:54 | Zagor | actually, it's not a rolo in the pure sense. it's instead the capability to "play" archos.mod files... |
| 10:47:04 | Zagor | rather neat |
| 10:47:11 | Bagder | wow |
| 10:47:18 | MeRWiN | excuse me? |
| 10:47:20 | MeRWiN | play it? |
| 10:47:26 | Zagor | load it |
| 10:47:28 | Zagor | and run it |
| 10:47:29 | Bagder | in the dir browser |
| 10:47:32 | Zagor | yup |
| 10:47:44 | Bagder | I like that |
| 10:47:57 | Bagder | that's actually cooler than a stand-alone rolo |
| 10:48:07 | Zagor | i think so too |
| 10:48:24 | MeRWiN | so... dynamic loading of the mod file? |
| 10:48:32 | Bagder | yes |
| 10:48:33 | Zagor | yeah |
| 10:48:46 | MeRWiN | wow... add that one in definately :) |
| 10:48:46 | Bagder | Zagor: does it descramble too? |
| 10:48:49 | Zagor | yup |
| 10:48:55 | Linus | c00lness |
| 10:48:57 | dwihno | cool :D |
| 10:49:15 | Linus | We might need a file filter for that |
| 10:49:16 | Bagder | who wrote it? |
| 10:49:17 | MeRWiN | so you could have the regular archos.mod from archos in there and load it if you want to? |
| 10:49:28 | Zagor | Bagder: Randy Wood |
| 10:49:33 | Linus | A true hero |
| 10:49:40 | * | Bagder joins the Randy Wood fan club |
| 10:49:48 | Zagor | MeRWiN: exactly |
| 10:50:01 | Hes | Excellent news |
| 10:50:03 | * | MeRWiN nominates Randy Wood for addition to the credits (in bold) |
| 10:50:09 | MeRWiN | if he's not already there :) |
| 10:50:10 | Linus | MERGE! MERGE! MERGE! |
| 10:51:11 | Zagor | he's posting it on the mailing list |
| 10:51:12 | MeRWiN | so really, with the emulator, we could just have a basically non-changing emulator that loads an archos.mod file :) |
| 10:51:38 | Zagor | MeRWiN: sure, just write an archos hardware emulator. piece of cake :) |
| 10:52:03 | MeRWiN | Zagor: That's something I've been wanting... much easier |
| 10:53:12 | MeRWiN | anyone know if the recent change to the simulator gets rid of the need totally for a numeric keypad? |
| 10:53:51 | Linus | i hope so |
| 10:54:09 | MeRWiN | my laptop has a crappy numeric keypad. it really doesn't even work with the sim |
| 10:56:13 | Bagder | it does |
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| 10:57:58 | matsl | bagder: I have problems with wps-screen in the simulator. It allways displays just Playing.... |
| 10:58:26 | Linus | i want Hes to commit the charger patch |
| 10:59:03 | Bagder | the wps is not easily simulated |
| 10:59:13 | Bagder | properly |
| 10:59:28 | matsl | bagder: Ok. So its a know problem then |
| 10:59:37 | Linus | yes |
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| 11:00:13 | matsl | :-( |
| 11:01:17 | Hes | Linus: I'll look into it |
| 11:02:01 | MeRWiN | g'nite... goin' to bed |
| 11:02:05 | Linus | perfect |
| 11:02:10 | Linus | nite MeRWiN |
| 11:02:13 | MeRWiN | nite lin |
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| 11:02:36 | Linus | Hes: can you look into the possibility of a filtered_battery_level() function |
| 11:03:03 | Hes | I'll add an #define ENABLE_CHARGER in config-recorder.h so that the charger can be enabled & disabled easily |
| 11:03:12 | Linus | Hes: good |
| 11:03:13 | Hes | and replace the #ifdef ARCHOS_RECORDER's with that |
| 11:03:18 | Hes | in my patch |
| 11:03:26 | Linus | no |
| 11:03:50 | Hes | i mean, around the charger code only |
| 11:04:00 | Linus | use HAVE_CHARGE_CTRL or something |
| 11:04:13 | Hes | Ok |
| 11:04:18 | adi|home | Bagder: you stil around? |
| 11:04:35 | * | Bagder is here |
| 11:05:09 | adi|home | take a look at that |
| 11:05:13 | adi|home | youll need to pull it down |
| 11:05:20 | adi|home | not displaying on the web for somereason |
| 11:05:34 | adi|home | id have the front part i showed you earlier over the breast |
| 11:05:39 | mbr | Linus: rtc now doesn't loose seconds |
| 11:05:47 | Linus | mbr: great |
| 11:05:47 | adi|home | ty |
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| 11:10:51 | * | adi|home heads to bed |
| 11:10:55 | Linus | nite |
| 11:11:04 | Bagder | night adi |
| 11:22:18 | Bagder | so, does anyone object if I remove the mpeg_stop on the left button in the dir browser? |
| 11:22:43 | Bagder | it will force users to go wps and press stop/off there |
| 11:22:59 | Linus | why not always stop on STOP? |
| 11:23:11 | Linus | in the dir browser |
| 11:23:15 | dwihno | stop for stop |
| 11:23:23 | Bagder | because stop is dir exit on players |
| 11:23:28 | Linus | ah |
| 11:23:39 | Linus | ok, but at least for recorder |
| 11:23:48 | dwihno | ya |
| 11:23:51 | dwihno | at least for the recorder :) |
| 11:23:52 | Bagder | yes, recorders could stop on OFF even in the dir browser |
| 11:24:02 | Bagder | which it doesn't do right now |
| 11:24:11 | Linus | yup |
| 11:25:48 | Bagder | we should start writing some docs |
| 11:39:41 | dwihno | "... and remember - only YOU can prevent forest fires!" |
| 11:57:23 | Linus | hey, you playlist users! |
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| 11:57:52 | dwihno | (?) |
| 11:58:01 | Linus | is the playlist supposed to run forever? |
| 11:58:14 | Bagder | good q |
| 11:58:17 | Bagder | I dunno |
| 11:58:18 | Linus | silly |
| 11:58:34 | dwihno | it should be configurable |
| 11:58:38 | Linus | we should at least have a 'repeat' setting |
| 11:58:47 | Bagder | yes, you're right |
| 11:58:49 | dwihno | repeat 1, repeat all, random |
| 11:58:50 | Linus | now it just goes on forever |
| 11:59:00 | dwihno | and yeah, "normal mode" too |
| 11:59:13 | Linus | repeat should be independent of ransom |
| 11:59:17 | Linus | random |
| 11:59:25 | dwihno | true |
| 11:59:50 | Bagder | a ransom mode? ;-P |
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| 12:00:06 | Linus | ok, i'll leave the repeat as it is now, and concentrate on the RAM playlists |
| 12:00:31 | dwihno | The auto-build playlist feature would be pretty kickass too |
| 12:01:15 | Linus | dwihno: that is the intention |
| 12:01:37 | Linus | no need for RAM playlists for anything else |
| 12:01:40 | matsl | must work ;-( cu |
| 12:01:44 | Linus | cu |
| 12:01:46 | dwihno | cu |
| 12:01:50 | dwihno | cul8r :-) |
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| 12:03:13 | dwihno | the "press on to return to dir browser" text only appears when playing a dir? |
| 12:17:16 | Hes | ransom mode, yeah. "Donate $20 to rockbox t-shirt pool to enable your device again" |
| 12:19:16 | Linus | dwihno: yes |
| 12:19:38 | dwihno | Linus: Have you noticed any visual WPS glitches? |
| 12:19:58 | Linus | several, which one do you mean |
| 12:20:48 | dwihno | 1) press 'on' in the WPS, return to dir browser. 2) press 'on', return to WPS, filename display shows only the first 2 chars |
| 12:21:03 | Linus | when dir playing withg random=true, is it important that the file that the cursor is pointing to is played first? |
| 12:21:14 | Linus | dwihno: yeah i heard that |
| 12:22:29 | dwihno | Linus: it should if random is active, yes... but when adding the dir using the 'play-entire-dir' function, it should pick a random file for the first track |
| 12:27:17 | Hes | dwihno: if the directory is randomized, the first entry in the temporary playlist will be random, so we don't need to pick a random location? |
| 12:28:13 | dwihno | I don't understand what you mean :) |
| 12:28:36 | Hes | Never mind then 8-) |
| 12:28:53 | Linus | there are two cases: |
| 12:29:19 | Linus | 1) The user selects "play entire dir" somehow. this function is not implemented |
| 12:29:42 | Linus | 2) The users selects a file in the browser and pushes PLAY |
| 12:30:00 | Hes | (somehow: probably clicks 'play' on a directory entry in the browser) |
| 12:30:06 | Linus | in case 1 it should randomize and play like a normal playlist |
| 12:30:16 | Linus | Hes: no |
| 12:30:33 | Linus | on the player, PLAY enters the directory |
| 12:30:41 | Hes | Ah, right. |
| 12:30:56 | Linus | in case 2 it should probably randomize, but still play the selected file first |
| 12:34:34 | dwihno | My point exactly :) |
| 12:36:59 | Hes | I'm about to commit the charger. |
| 12:37:02 | Linus | then, should it play until the end of the directory or should it wrap? |
| 12:37:23 | Linus | Hes: great! have you compiled for all targets, including simulator? |
| 12:37:47 | Hes | The simulator builds did not start for me at all. |
| 12:37:49 | Hes | for some reason. |
| 12:38:10 | Linus | have you created a dir called "archos"? |
| 12:38:11 | dwihno | Linus: how about making that a configurable option? |
| 12:38:29 | Linus | the config menu gets longer and longer... |
| 12:39:05 | dwihno | Configurability rules! :) |
| 12:39:08 | Hes | configure creates the archos subdir |
| 12:39:21 | dwihno | Some kind of docs should be written for 1.3 |
| 12:39:22 | Hes | make[1]: Entering directory `/opt/src/archos/src/uisimulator/x11' |
| 12:39:22 | Hes | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `mpeg.c', needed by `/opt/src/archos/src/build/.deps/mpeg.d'. Stop. |
| 12:39:22 | Hes | make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/archos/src/uisimulator/x11' |
| 12:41:17 | Hes | Ahh.. the simulator did build |
| 12:42:46 | Linus | dwihno: 1.3 isn't planned yet |
| 12:43:12 | dwihno | I know :-) That gives a lot of time to do docs :) |
| 12:48:06 | Hes | Now i've tested all targets 8-) |
| 12:48:19 | Linus | rock'n'roll |
| 12:48:34 | Linus | have you made a filtered battery_level() function? |
| 12:49:00 | Hes | I'll merge that in afterwards |
| 12:49:16 | Hes | I practically have made it, will just have to replace the old one 8-) |
| 12:49:35 | Linus | cool |
| 12:49:47 | Hes | and make it ignore empty samples |
| 12:49:53 | Hes | right after boot-up |
| 12:49:59 | Linus | noce |
| 12:50:00 | Linus | nice |
| 12:51:18 | Hes | here we goooo |
| 12:54:58 | Hes | There. |
| 12:55:49 | Bagder | now we need mbr's status line too to see the charging symbol ;-) |
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| 12:58:44 | Linus | Hes: is there an is_charging() function? |
| 12:58:44 | * | Hes hides behind the coffee machine in the coffee room to escape flying coffee mugs due to broken builds and dead batteries |
| 12:59:15 | Hes | extern bool charger_enabled; |
| 12:59:16 | Hes | in power.h |
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| 13:00:39 | Linus | ok |
| 13:00:46 | Linus | and a charger_connected too? |
| 13:01:08 | Hes | Yeah, the old bool charger_inserted(void); |
| 13:01:30 | * | Zagor notes there is now a ship date for Archos Multimedia: August 12, 2002 |
| 13:01:45 | Hes | i only charged the threshold there so that it won't return false right after charging is enabled on an empty battery (the ext power voltage drops pretty low at that point) |
| 13:02:10 | Linus | good |
| 13:02:30 | Bagder | http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/tshirt-contest/designs.html |
| 13:02:38 | Bagder | design number 4 is there |
| 13:03:42 | Zagor | umm, we should probably tell people the url is about to change :) |
| 13:03:55 | Hes | I will enhance the charger to detect connected/disconnected charger faster |
| 13:04:09 | Hes | I wouldn't print the URL on the shirt 8-) |
| 13:04:17 | Bagder | Zagor: yeah |
| 13:08:48 | Hes | Maybe the front page news item could mention that configuration saving has been implemented on all platforms... if USB display is listed too |
| 13:09:16 | Hes | and maybe charging too. And any other large improvements that have been made? |
| 13:09:35 | Bagder | maybe we should make a 'news submit' form so that people can submit news easier |
| 13:10:15 | Hes | Import news from CVS maybe. |
| 13:10:44 | Bagder | well, the site is built from the www module in CVS so all CVS comitters can add news already now |
| 13:11:10 | Hes | Oh. |
| 13:12:27 | Hes | That module is a bit larger. 8-) |
| 13:12:37 | Bagder | yes, all those pics ;-) |
| 13:12:38 | Linus | lots of pictures |
| 13:13:50 | dwihno | As I was taking a shower I started to think about visual playlist navigation... Is it possible to make such a thing without consuming all memory? |
| 13:15:09 | Bagder | it depends on what you mean with "visual playlist navigation" |
| 13:15:24 | dwihno | Like winamp |
| 13:15:26 | dwihno | or such |
| 13:15:38 | dwihno | where you actually can "see" the playlist |
| 13:15:47 | Bagder | oh, that'll certainly be possible |
| 13:15:56 | Bagder | we'll just not load the whole file at once |
| 13:16:47 | Linus | now i know why people complain so much about how long it takes to playe the next file when pressing RIGHT |
| 13:17:05 | Linus | it is the playlist_next() file seek that takes time |
| 13:17:24 | Bagder | oh |
| 13:17:31 | Bagder | so maybe it is time to add some caching |
| 13:17:57 | Linus | i will, soon |
| 13:21:14 | Linus | the playlist code is very silly |
| 13:21:31 | Linus | not even playlists are immune to directory changes in the dir browser |
| 13:21:50 | Hes | I added two news items (charging, config saving) |
| 13:22:01 | Bagder | Linus: you mean because of relative paths? |
| 13:22:07 | Linus | yes |
| 13:22:24 | Linus | playlist_next() takes a "dir" argument |
| 13:22:40 | Linus | and tree.c passes currdir |
| 13:23:12 | Hes | When does the web site build, and do www module updates go to the CVS activity view too? 8-) |
| 13:23:44 | Linus | why does playlist_next() take a dir argument at all? |
| 13:24:19 | Bagder | Hes: the www commits are not shown in the CVS activity and is not posted to the cvs mailing lsit |
| 13:24:34 | Bagder | it updates every 20 mins or so I think |
| 13:25:07 | Zagor | yup, every 20 min |
| 13:25:19 | Hes | Excellent... at what offset? 0, 20, 40? |
| 13:25:40 | Zagor | uh no, the bug list is every 20. the web page is every hour, on the hour. |
| 13:27:45 | Hes | [ 573367 ] batteries are not charged ... could probably be closed now? |
| 13:27:59 | Zagor | yup |
| 13:28:54 | Zagor | closed |
| 13:32:27 | Hes | I'll add a comment |
| 13:35:51 | dwihno | Has the WPS patch with additional battery / volume bars been merged? |
| 13:36:11 | Linus | no |
| 13:36:19 | dwihno | mkay |
| 13:39:22 | Zagor | i'm off to change dialup account. see you later. |
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| 13:39:46 | dwihno | what's a deep discharge? |
| 13:40:27 | Bagder | dwihno: it makes the batter discharge a lot before charging again |
| 13:40:32 | Bagder | batteries |
| 13:41:01 | Bagder | like if you use your box with the charger connected always |
| 13:41:40 | dwihno | ah, okay |
| 13:41:52 | dwihno | so there is no "disable batteries, run from power cord" stuff? |
| 13:42:07 | Hes | dwihno: the hardware cannot do that |
| 13:43:08 | dwihno | Hes: ah, okay... Well, then I guess the deep discharge feature is needed. |
| 13:43:26 | dwihno | I like the battery charging graph :) |
| 13:43:37 | Hes | It looks pretty cool. |
| 13:44:07 | dwihno | So what happens when the batteries are full? |
| 13:44:15 | dwihno | Some message to the user? |
| 13:45:39 | Linus | no |
| 13:46:04 | dwihno | Is there something preventing overcharging? |
| 13:46:06 | webmind | could it be done with a hardware mod ? |
| 13:46:11 | Linus | later on, when the status bar is there, the battery will animate, as the stock firmware |
| 13:46:25 | dwihno | Cool |
| 13:46:50 | Linus | or something |
| 13:46:55 | Hes | dwihno: battery full condition is detected... and there is a timer too just in case the detection fails |
| 13:47:05 | Hes | whoops, forgot to drop the timer down btw. |
| 13:47:12 | Linus | fix that |
| 13:47:19 | Hes | Right away, yes. |
| 13:47:42 | dwihno | How hard would it be to replace the plastic covering the display? |
| 13:47:46 | Hes | 6H should be good, or 4? |
| 13:47:57 | Linus | 6 |
| 13:47:58 | dwihno | My unit has gotten a teensy bit scratched and it's a bit annoying |
| 13:49:39 | webmind | hmm, online firmware still no updates |
| 13:50:20 | Linus | webmind: what do you mean? |
| 13:51:00 | webmind | firmware from archos self is still on 5.07 while i got 5.08 when i bought mine begin may |
| 13:51:04 | webmind | they're slow :) |
| 13:51:18 | dwihno | That's why Rockbox really rocks the box! :) |
| 13:52:02 | dwihno | Linus: Judging from your experience from taking the unit apart, do you think it's possible to replace the LCD-plastic cover? |
| 13:52:08 | Linus | of course |
| 13:52:21 | Linus | if you can find a replacement plastic cover |
| 13:53:09 | dwihno | hmm |
| 13:53:50 | dwihno | How much would I need to replace? I have never disassembled my unit, so I don't know :-) |
| 13:54:47 | Linus | i think you can remove the plastic window |
| 13:54:55 | Linus | but it is probably glued |
| 13:56:43 | webmind | dwihno, open it and see for yourself? :) |
| 13:57:28 | dwihno | webmind: nah, I'd love to keep my warranty - at least until I get a 40gig replacement drive ;) |
| 13:57:53 | webmind | heh |
| 13:58:18 | * | webmind s well.. prolly will open it within the year though |
| 13:58:26 | webmind | taking stuff apart to tweak is fun |
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| 13:59:30 | Bagder | design number 5 added |
| 13:59:37 | mbr | Don various changes to statusbar patch. Someone willing to test? |
| 13:59:56 | mbr | Shall I post it to the ml? |
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| 14:00:18 | Bagder | go go go! ;-) |
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| 14:00:56 | Bagder | you ready for a user's manual? ;-O |
| 14:01:31 | Bagder | http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/manual/ |
| 14:01:47 | Bagder | there to get improved by *you* |
| 14:02:24 | Zagor | that reminds me. a quick "screenshot" key to the simulator wouldn't be a bad thing |
| 14:02:37 | Bagder | true |
| 14:03:55 | | Nick liam_ is now known as jedix` (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) |
| 14:03:56 | Bagder | I wonder if libpng is easy to use |
| 14:05:17 | webmind | btw anyone tried the multimedia btw? :) |
| 14:06:29 | dwihno | Nhaw... It looks pretty neat though :-) |
| 14:06:36 | dwihno | I just wonder what kind of video it boasts. |
| 14:08:01 | Hes | Whoops. I broke the front page somehow. I wonder what happened? |
| 14:08:28 | Bagder | weirdness |
| 14:08:39 | mbr | Bagder: Can you compile simulator and firmware under windows? |
| 14:09:11 | Bagder | mbr: I don't build under windows, I build the win32 simulator using a cross-compiler on linux |
| 14:09:19 | Hes | www/main.t looks good when I checkout |
| 14:09:25 | mbr | I moved the slidebar and progressbar to recoder/widgets.[ch] and had to modify makefiles. I have no possibility to test. |
| 14:09:38 | Zagor | Hes: there's a collision with what was there before |
| 14:09:41 | Zagor | i'll fix it |
| 14:09:46 | mbr | Bagder: OK |
| 14:09:50 | Hes | Oh, ok. |
| 14:09:57 | Bagder | mbr: but others have done it |
| 14:10:17 | Hes | I'm not very experienced with CVS, just RCS mostly 8-) |
| 14:11:01 | Zagor | fixed |
| 14:11:21 | Zagor | it wasn't your fauly |
| 14:12:08 | Hes | whew |
| 14:15:29 | Hes | 65k rubber ducks: http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/kuvakoosteet/maailmankuvia/isokuva.asp?kuva=4263 |
| 14:17:58 | Linus | i'm playing a dir in a dynamically created playlist... |
| 14:18:26 | Bagder | rock |
| 14:18:28 | dwihno | Cool Linus! |
| 14:19:33 | Linus | i can imagine that people have had problems with playlists before |
| 14:19:48 | dwihno | because of ... ? |
| 14:19:54 | Linus | because the playlists were dependent of the current directory |
| 14:20:03 | Linus | in the dirbrowser |
| 14:20:06 | Bagder | Linus: that is only very recently added |
| 14:20:20 | Linus | the dir argument? |
| 14:20:25 | Bagder | no, but the usage of it |
| 14:20:26 | Zagor | and only matters for entries with relative path |
| 14:21:57 | Linus | speaking of browser, who wants to optimize the dircache memory usage? |
| 14:22:12 | Linus | the current solution with entry structs wastes memory |
| 14:22:29 | Linus | it is better to separate the attributes and the names |
| 14:22:39 | Linus | then we can pack the name data |
| 14:22:45 | Bagder | true |
| 14:22:52 | | Join mistaRx [0] (mistaX@t6o975p89.telia.com) |
| 14:23:07 | * | Zagor is off for new adventures in dial-up land... |
| 14:23:09 | | Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") |
| 14:30:04 | dwihno | When the batteries are full, is the meter supposed to drop to zero? |
| 14:30:45 | Linus | what meter? |
| 14:31:45 | dwihno | debug, battery |
| 14:34:27 | Hes | What exactly in there? |
| 14:34:49 | dwihno | the battery voltage meter |
| 14:34:58 | dwihno | it was raising and now it dropped to sero |
| 14:35:01 | Hes | the graph or the voltage measurement? |
| 14:35:11 | dwihno | graph |
| 14:35:23 | Hes | Hmm, interesting, it shouldn't. What is the scale now? |
| 14:35:25 | Linus | dwihno: what scale? |
| 14:37:07 | dwihno | 5.23-5.46 |
| 14:37:18 | Linus | then it isn't zero |
| 14:37:24 | Linus | it's 5.23 |
| 14:37:29 | dwihno | the graph has dropped to zero |
| 14:37:31 | dwihno | that's what I ment |
| 14:37:37 | Hes | The graph is auto-scaling, lowest value visible is 5.23 |
| 14:38:04 | Hes | The voltage naturally drops quite a bit as soon as the charger is disconnected/disabled |
| 14:38:10 | dwihno | arf. okay |
| 14:38:43 | Hes | since the external power supply offers a higher voltage than the batteries supply... and this difference causes some energy to flow in the batteries to cause the charging effect 8-) |
| 14:39:29 | Hes | It would be interesting to know what voltage does the stock archos firmware stop charging at... in practice |
| 14:39:44 | Hes | with the same set of cells |
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| 14:46:14 | Bagder | we should have a go at multi-line scroll in the wps too |
| 14:47:01 | edx | Bagder: just read your manual |
| 14:47:06 | edx | good work. |
| 14:47:08 | Bagder | woo ;-) |
| 14:47:16 | Bagder | pretty basic still |
| 14:47:36 | edx | really easy to read and since it is not too large you can find what you need in a few seconds |
| 14:47:53 | edx | i would not advance it much more, only add the entries for the menu items... |
| 14:48:02 | edx | (of course) |
| 14:48:09 | Bagder | and add the missing screen dumps |
| 14:48:43 | edx | yea.. with the screendumps, i'd say its nearly perfect. |
| 14:49:02 | edx | we really dont need such a detailed expression (like pictures where the buttons are on the device :P) |
| 14:49:15 | edx | such a = much more |
| 14:49:26 | * | edx misexpressed himself |
| 14:50:12 | Bagder | I'll try to fill in some more later |
| 14:50:14 | Linus | can anyone remember why there is a sleep(HZ) last in play_list()? |
| 14:50:44 | Bagder | no clue |
| 14:50:57 | Bagder | try cvs annotate |
| 14:51:07 | dwihno | Hah, nice. WPS shows nothing :) |
| 14:51:29 | Bagder | ? |
| 14:51:41 | dwihno | WPS, parse mode |
| 14:51:43 | dwihno | Shows NOTHING :-) |
| 14:51:50 | dwihno | Except the progress meter and time stuff |
| 14:52:03 | Bagder | Linus: Zagor added it in 1.10 |
| 14:52:04 | Linus | Bagder: you forgot MENU and +/- for volume on the player |
| 14:52:50 | Bagder | ah |
| 14:53:20 | edx | hmm a storm is coming up over here :/ |
| 14:53:25 | edx | bye summer.. |
| 14:56:31 | elinenbe|dead | what does Kjell do −− why is he not helping out on the project? |
| 14:56:35 | | Nick elinenbe|dead is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 14:56:49 | Bagder | he's a lazy bastard ;-) |
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| 15:02:28 | mbr | Someone got my patch via ml? I sent it with no error, but seems that its gone to a black hole |
| 15:03:45 | Bagder | it might've gone to Björn due to its size |
| 15:03:59 | Bagder | was it big? |
| 15:04:12 | mbr | nearly 60kb |
| 15:04:33 | Bagder | then Björn got it and needs to approve it to get to the list |
| 15:04:48 | mbr | because i reindented a section |
| 15:04:58 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 15:05:33 | Linus | mbr: björn is a modem loser |
| 15:05:40 | Linus | zip it and mail it again |
| 15:05:55 | elinenbe | mbr: what does it do? |
| 15:05:58 | mbr | Say nothing against modem USERS :) |
| 15:06:19 | mbr | elinenbe: new version of the status bar patch |
| 15:11:10 | mbr | gziped version is on it way ... |
| 15:12:47 | Linus | RAM-based playlists committed |
| 15:13:12 | elinenbe | Linus: is there any timing for a BUTTON_REPEAT? What I am trying to say is if you hold a button down, it sets the button repeat flag, but if you let go of the button, and then hit it one second later, will that set the BUTTON_REPEAT flag? |
| 15:13:38 | elinenbe | Linus: what does the RMA-based playlist do? |
| 15:13:46 | elinenbe | sorry RAM-based |
| 15:13:48 | Linus | elinenbe: it resets the repeat timer for every keypress |
| 15:14:01 | elinenbe | and how long is the repeat timer? |
| 15:14:05 | Linus | it can have a playlist in memory |
| 15:14:43 | Linus | the repeat timer is 6 poll intervals, then 4 for each repeat, and the poll interval is HZ/20 |
| 15:14:57 | elinenbe | ah... ok another question. |
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| 15:15:06 | Zagor | aaaah, finally proper callback |
| 15:15:35 | elinenbe | with the new RAM-based playlists, could you now add −− playing this directory and all directories under this? |
| 15:15:44 | elinenbe | like if you hit play on a directory? |
| 15:15:49 | Linus | no, not in this version |
| 15:15:59 | Linus | feel free to add it |
| 15:16:12 | elinenbe | okay. |
| 15:16:37 | elinenbe | now there is directory shuffle? right? |
| 15:16:41 | | Nick Linus is now known as Linus|latelunch (~linus@193.15.23.131) |
| 15:16:43 | Bagder | mbr: if you gimme your sourceforge user name, I'll give you CVS commit access |
| 15:18:50 | Bagder | hehe |
| 15:19:08 | Bagder | I could do 'nslookup' and then 'ls s.bonet.se' |
| 15:19:11 | mbr | Bagder: it's malle |
| 15:19:19 | Bagder | quite a few hosts ;-) |
| 15:21:44 | Bagder | mbr: you're added |
| 15:22:03 | mbr | cool! |
| 15:23:52 | dwihno | ah |
| 15:23:55 | dwihno | a nice walk outdoors :) |
| 15:33:17 | | Nick Linus|latelunch is now known as Linus (~linus@193.15.23.131) |
| 15:33:57 | dwihno | patching file `firmware/drivers/lcd.c' |
| 15:33:57 | dwihno | Assertion failed: hunk, file patch.c, line 321 |
| 15:34:01 | dwihno | what the ... |
| 15:34:07 | Bagder | ! |
| 15:45:23 | dwihno | Great work Linus! |
| 15:45:46 | Hes | 20020806-statusbar.diff didn't quite apply to the current cvs 8-) |
| 15:46:01 | Linus | Not after my playlist fixes |
| 15:46:15 | Linus | mbr: maybe you could try to cync it? |
| 15:46:19 | Linus | sync |
| 15:46:31 | dwihno | What about merging the statusbar? |
| 15:47:09 | dwihno | and add my USB icon too while you're at it ;-) |
| 15:47:11 | mbr | Linus: Yes. Currently working on it. |
| 15:47:16 | Linus | great |
| 15:47:33 | Linus | my RAM-playlist hack needs some tweaks |
| 15:47:54 | Linus | currently, it only plays from the current file to the end of the dir |
| 15:48:03 | Linus | it should probably wrap |
| 15:48:30 | Linus | and when shuffling, it also shuffles the file where the cursor is at |
| 15:50:00 | Hes | mbr: could the status bar setting go to byte 0x0e instead of a new byte? |
| 15:50:09 | Hes | would save a little config memory for now |
| 15:52:21 | Linus | Hes: the 90% charge threshold could maybe be random, to avoid memory effects even further |
| 15:52:48 | Hes | uhm 8-) |
| 15:53:09 | Hes | Would that really work? |
| 15:53:10 | Linus | maybe 90% is a bit low |
| 15:53:17 | Hes | Might be |
| 15:53:43 | elinenbe | Linus: if I am playing songs, and then I turn on the shuffle it does not currently shuffle (this is in a directory) |
| 15:54:05 | Linus | oops |
| 15:54:50 | Linus | elinenbe: are you sure? |
| 15:57:19 | elinenbe | sorry about that. it works. |
| 15:57:37 | elinenbe | but it only creates a playlist from the file I pick until the last file in the directory. |
| 15:57:54 | Linus | yes, i wrote that |
| 15:57:58 | elinenbe | so, if I pick the 10th song in a list of 20 to play first, then it will only shuffle between songs 10 - 20/ |
| 15:58:09 | elinenbe | that seems odd. |
| 15:58:15 | Linus | yes, i said that a few minutes ago |
| 15:58:22 | Linus | currently, it only plays from the current file to the end of the dir |
| 15:58:33 | Linus | it should probably wrap |
| 15:59:27 | elinenbe | well, it should play from current file to the end when not in shuffle mode |
| 15:59:37 | Linus | sure? |
| 15:59:37 | elinenbe | but in shuffle mode, it should randomly play the entire directory. |
| 15:59:48 | elinenbe | that is the way my CD player is. |
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| 16:00:03 | Linus | i'll do that later |
| 16:00:07 | Linus | i have to go now |
| 16:00:13 | Linus | cu guys! |
| 16:00:27 | dwihno | byebye! :) |
| 16:00:42 | | Part Linus |
| 16:00:46 | dwihno | byebye, now you die! :) |
| 16:02:46 | mbr | Hes: Are you here? |
| 16:03:32 | mbr | Hes: You can get the latest patch on http://www.stz-softwaretechnik.de/~mb (i won't spam the ml :) |
| 16:03:43 | Hes | Ok, thanks |
| 16:03:45 | dwihno | I'll try it rightaway :) |
| 16:06:34 | Hes | Coolness, it works! |
| 16:06:52 | Bagder | looking good? |
| 16:07:49 | Hes | Yeah |
| 16:07:58 | Bagder | neato |
| 16:08:23 | Bagder | any issue pending or is this reaching commit status? |
| 16:08:32 | * | dwihno sees something |
| 16:08:57 | mbr | dwihno: What? |
| 16:09:19 | elinenbe | is that the time on the recorder in the top right? |
| 16:09:19 | dwihno | switch to 'parse' mode in the WPS |
| 16:09:41 | dwihno | mbr: you will see that the first line isn't displayed. |
| 16:10:17 | elinenbe | that parse mode should put the filename in the middle in a big font anyway. |
| 16:10:28 | mbr | dwihno: The first line is the filename? Then i don't see it .. |
| 16:10:32 | elinenbe | something like that. why all the blank space? |
| 16:10:43 | Bagder | *whoa* |
| 16:10:59 | Bagder | my rockbox froze |
| 16:10:59 | dwihno | mbr: First line: artist, album etc. Second line, file name |
| 16:11:03 | dwihno | (?) |
| 16:11:17 | * | dwihno sends the microwave oven to Bagder to heat it up again |
| 16:11:23 | Hes | I'm gone, seeya |
| 16:11:29 | elinenbe | later. |
| 16:11:30 | dwihno | cul8r |
| 16:11:36 | Bagder | weeeirdness |
| 16:13:18 | mbr | dwihno: Found the bug. |
| 16:13:51 | elinenbe | I don't think that the speaker icon is necessary for the volume. |
| 16:14:14 | elinenbe | it should have a normal icon or shuffle icon instead. |
| 16:14:19 | elinenbe | for the play mode. |
| 16:14:29 | elinenbe | and I am sure repeat will be added soon too. |
| 16:14:30 | dwihno | the volume bar should be more responsive, methinks |
| 16:15:10 | elinenbe | dwihno: \agreed |
| 16:15:51 | mbr | You mean seeing a difference every volumechange? or faster? |
| 16:16:16 | elinenbe | seeing a difference every volume change would be hard |
| 16:16:27 | mbr | The speaker icon is canceled when volume is 0 (mute) |
| 16:16:34 | elinenbe | as there is a huge volume range, and a small display |
| 16:16:38 | mbr | Thought it would be nice to see that. |
| 16:16:47 | elinenbe | but it would be nice to see that. |
| 16:17:56 | mbr | I had a wider volume gauge where you saw more changed, but linus wanted a smaller one 8) |
| 16:18:11 | Bagder | hehe, yes he wanted a bigger battery one |
| 16:18:25 | * | Bagder hasn't seen it yet |
| 16:18:27 | elinenbe | get rid of the fake clock. |
| 16:18:34 | elinenbe | that is pointless to see on the screen. |
| 16:18:51 | mbr | It is not faked :) |
| 16:19:10 | elinenbe | well, it is still unnecessary on the main screen |
| 16:19:17 | PrimeSource | speaking of a clock can you all make this thing show the time of day that would be cool |
| 16:19:49 | mbr | PrimeSource: elinenbe wants to remove this :) |
| 16:19:55 | dwihno | Me too! :) |
| 16:20:25 | elinenbe | I think battery / volume / state (play/stop/pause/ff/rw) / playmode (repeat/shuffle/normal/etc.) |
| 16:21:54 | elinenbe | where does it get the time from? (the initial time) |
| 16:21:57 | elinenbe | does it just make it up? |
| 16:22:20 | Bagder | you can set the time using the stock firmware |
| 16:22:39 | elinenbe | ahhh... so it uses that. |
| 16:22:55 | mbr | elinenbe: time is read from rtc |
| 16:23:18 | elinenbe | how do you do a hold on the recorder? (button-lock) |
| 16:23:47 | Bagder | read the docs! :-P |
| 16:23:52 | * | Bagder giggles |
| 16:24:04 | Bagder | http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/manual/rec-wps.html |
| 16:24:40 | elinenbe | I see a bug. the song name scrolls through the button lock message. |
| 16:24:51 | elinenbe | statu line should how if buttons are locked or not. |
| 16:24:59 | elinenbe | insted of that extra screnn |
| 16:25:55 | Bagder | good idea |
| 16:27:08 | mbr | i'll put a lock icon to the status bar, also an indicator for (shuffle/repeat/normal) |
| 16:28:15 | elinenbe | you will need icons for a whole bunch of stuff (for future play modes that is) |
| 16:30:29 | elinenbe | there are some ideas here. |
| 16:31:33 | elinenbe | check out http://down.iriver.com/iriveramerica/support/manuals/imp350e-v200_manual.pdf and look at the playmodes and icons on page 14 of the manual / page 15 of the pdf |
| 16:34:17 | PrimeSource | are you guys adding all this to the recorder? i don't think my player screen has room for all that. |
| 16:34:24 | PrimeSource | i need a recorder |
| 16:34:39 | Bagder | yes, the recorder |
| 16:34:56 | Bagder | the player has fixed "icons" that can't be changed |
| 16:35:07 | PrimeSource | that sucks |
| 16:36:13 | PrimeSource | i've had this thing for awhile. i got it when they first came out. well this is the 2nd one the 1st one melted. |
| 16:37:47 | edx | melted? |
| 16:37:52 | edx | like in the sun? |
| 16:38:14 | PrimeSource | nope from the power cord that came with it |
| 16:38:28 | edx | uhm |
| 16:38:28 | edx | bad |
| 16:38:41 | PrimeSource | archos sent me a new one |
| 16:38:59 | edx | heh |
| 16:39:04 | edx | i had a player before too |
| 16:39:16 | edx | i damaged it somehow.. they sent me a recorder :P |
| 16:39:25 | edx | (for free, of course) |
| 16:40:00 | PrimeSource | i dont think it was out yet when mine melted |
| 16:40:16 | edx | yea.. its been like 6months ago |
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| 16:49:31 | dwihno | Recorder = kickass |
| 16:50:10 | mistaRx | has rockbox got a hold function? |
| 16:50:17 | mistaRx | for the players? |
| 16:50:22 | dwihno | http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/manual/rec-wps.html <−− read how to do it |
| 16:50:28 | Bagder | mistaRx: yes |
| 16:50:36 | mistaRx | roger |
| 16:50:45 | dwihno | The documentation is already handy :-) |
| 16:50:46 | Bagder | http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/manual/play-wps.html |
| 16:50:51 | Bagder | that's the player page actually |
| 16:50:51 | dwihno | oops |
| 16:50:53 | dwihno | sme bad |
| 16:50:54 | dwihno | sorry |
| 16:50:56 | dwihno | me so sorry! |
| 16:50:58 | dwihno | me sorry long time |
| 16:51:27 | Bagder | I should probably add links between the recorder/player versions |
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| 16:59:20 | mistaRx | do u appear to have less skipping withthe rockbox firmware?! |
| 16:59:53 | * | Bagder doesn't know |
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| 17:00:02 | Bagder | I've hardly used the stock firmware ;-) |
| 17:00:11 | mistaRx | =) |
| 17:00:23 | mistaRx | but do u get skipping then?! |
| 17:00:27 | Bagder | no |
| 17:00:49 | Bagder | but I don't move around much with it |
| 17:00:59 | mistaRx | ok.. |
| 17:01:39 | mistaRx | I have ALLOT less skipping & probs with the rockbox!! |
| 17:01:53 | mistaRx | with my AJBP6k |
| 17:01:55 | Bagder | that's cool indeed |
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| 17:03:17 | mistaRx | Indeed, withthe stock firmware u can't change the song without it messing up about a half-minute into the next song(for ONE example) |
| 17:04:14 | mistaRx | and it doesn't spin up directly when u press the next button! |
| 17:04:46 | mistaRx | ni gör ett häst jobb grabbar!! |
| 17:04:54 | mistaRx | =) |
| 17:05:41 | dwihno | yumyum |
| 17:05:43 | * | Bagder grins |
| 17:05:53 | * | dwihno ate yumyum-mat |
| 17:06:25 | PrimeSource | later people |
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| 17:07:05 | dwihno | oops |
| 17:07:05 | mistaRx | why will safe settings be impleamented in the recorder 1.2 firmware but not in the player verison?! |
| 17:07:25 | Bagder | mistaRx: because the recorder version doesn't have to save to disk |
| 17:07:59 | mistaRx | what does it do then?! |
| 17:08:18 | Bagder | it has a tiny battery backed-up memory |
| 17:08:32 | mistaRx | ok |
| 17:08:47 | elinenbe | Badger: save to disk is going to be in the next player version? |
| 17:08:57 | Bagder | so, the player save-settings must save stuff on disk, and that's why we hesitate a bit to enable it |
| 17:09:22 | elinenbe | ah.... |
| 17:09:22 | Bagder | I think the save-settings for the player still needs some adjustments before going in for real |
| 17:09:42 | mistaRx | I use it every day! |
| 17:09:51 | mistaRx | Nemas Problemas! |
| 17:10:06 | dwihno | Bagder: messed up link to the t-shirt contest on the webpage |
| 17:10:35 | Bagder | zagor's on the case |
| 17:10:46 | Bagder | notice how the host name changed... :-) |
| 17:10:55 | dwihno | whoa |
| 17:11:11 | dwihno | Then I must update my t-shirt entry! :) |
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| 17:12:09 | mistaRx | when will u impleament using the serial remote ?! |
| 17:14:47 | Zagor | tshirt page fixed |
| 17:16:07 | Bagder | verify the daily-build stuff too, it came a mail about it |
| 17:16:34 | Zagor | i'm on it. mail archive first. |
| 17:21:10 | Zagor | daily builds fixed. anything else i've missed? |
| 17:21:19 | Bagder | dwihno: I can't receive dcc here |
| 17:21:44 | Bagder | oh, gotta go! |
| 17:21:46 | | Part Bagder |
| 17:23:29 | mistaRx | is anybody working on remote control support, or when are u planing to impleament it?! |
| 17:25:38 | Zagor | we're not working on it at the moment |
| 17:26:01 | Zagor | but it's not a very big job, so someone will probably fix it soon |
| 17:44:06 | mistaRx | ok |
| 17:50:10 | ripnetuk | if someone could give me a leg-up i would love to work on the remote... i tried reading from the serial, but it just blocked, i asked on this group, and someone told me that you need to enable interupt-based serial coms, and that was not yet done... i assume that there is an interupt vector somewhere which gets called when something comes in via the serial port, and that you have to enable the serial port, set the speed, and enable interupts, but the |
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| 18:18:27 | Bono1 | i have a ? |
| 18:18:46 | Bono1 | is there anyway to lock the buttons on the archos??? |
| 18:19:09 | dwihno | yes |
| 18:19:16 | dwihno | player or recorder? |
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| 18:21:33 | notch | ripnetuk: I have written a remote routine but havent had time to debug it... |
| 18:21:56 | notch | I can send you the source if youre interested in debugging it! |
| 18:23:13 | Bono1 | recorder |
| 18:24:09 | dwihno | Bono1: and you're using the rockbox software? |
| 18:24:16 | Bono1 | not yet |
| 18:24:52 | dwihno | To enter the "lock" mode, just keep the 'on' button pressed for a while |
| 18:25:35 | Bono1 | with the archos software?? |
| 18:25:45 | dwihno | yep |
| 18:25:49 | Bono1 | KEWL |
| 18:25:51 | dwihno | and it's stated in the manual too :-) |
| 18:25:52 | Bono1 | thanks |
| 18:25:59 | Bono1 | really |
| 18:26:03 | Bono1 | didnt see that |
| 18:26:14 | dwihno | For some gay reason, you can still change the volume while in the "locked" mode. |
| 18:26:23 | Bono1 | LOL |
| 18:26:29 | Bono1 | thats ok for my needs |
| 18:26:36 | Bono1 | i ride a motorcycle |
| 18:26:45 | Bono1 | and i keep pressing buttons |
| 18:27:48 | dwihno | The rockbox firmware is good enough for regular use now |
| 18:27:57 | dwihno | Unless you are using the recorder functionality |
| 18:28:03 | Bono1 | can you use it with rockbox?? |
| 18:28:14 | Bono1 | no i dont use the recorder |
| 18:28:43 | dwihno | rockbox works on all archos models |
| 18:29:07 | Bono1 | sorry i ment to ask if i could lock the keys with rockbox |
| 18:29:13 | dwihno | Things like the 999 playlist limit has been resolved |
| 18:29:31 | Bono1 | ive read that and thats kewl |
| 18:30:17 | dwihno | I think the locking is engaged by pressing f1+down or something like that |
| 18:30:30 | Bono1 | f1?? |
| 18:30:45 | dwihno | F1 + DOWN |
| 18:30:45 | dwihno | Toggle key lock ON/OFF |
| 18:30:50 | dwihno | yeah |
| 18:30:55 | dwihno | the first of the three topmost buttons |
| 18:30:56 | Bono1 | ok |
| 18:31:08 | Bono1 | got it |
| 18:31:52 | Bono1 | i hope that fixes my prob. |
| 18:32:17 | Bono1 | on the bike with that damn pouch it stops some time |
| 18:33:30 | dwihno | The pouch is a really cool fashion statement .. ;) |
| 18:36:30 | Bono1 | ROTFL |
| 18:36:53 | Bono1 | that shit is gay as hell |
| 18:37:12 | Bono1 | looking for a replacment |
| 18:37:49 | dwihno | some kind of nylon minidisc pouch might do the trick |
| 18:38:12 | Bono1 | humm |
| 18:38:48 | Bono1 | yeah the next chance i get i'm on the hunt |
| 18:39:06 | Bono1 | have you done the volume mod?? |
| 18:39:37 | dwihno | volume mod? |
| 18:40:07 | Bono1 | http://www.mctubster.com/sound.html |
| 18:40:37 | Bono1 | http://www.fasttimesatridgemonthigh.org/jukebox6000/ |
| 18:43:05 | dwihno | Nope |
| 18:43:14 | dwihno | I'm quite happy with the volume level |
| 18:45:34 | notch | are you there ripnetuk??? |
| 18:51:27 | | Quit notch () |
| 18:55:07 | Bono1 | what headphones are you using?? |
| 18:55:56 | dwihno | Two pairs |
| 18:56:00 | dwihno | Sennheiser HD 570 |
| 18:56:54 | dwihno | Sony MDR-EX 70 LP |
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| 18:57:14 | dwihno | But I got 20/20 "crystal ears" :-) |
| 18:59:52 | Bono1 | LOL i hear ya |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:20 | Bono1 | are the sony mdr-ex 70's ear buds |
| 19:01:11 | dwihno | yeah |
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| 19:19:44 | dwihno | Bagder: U got mail ;D |
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| 19:19:55 | * | Bagder already fixed |
| 19:20:23 | dwihno | :-) |
| 19:20:27 | dwihno | You are ___SO___ fast! |
| 19:20:34 | dwihno | <fast>Bagder</fast> |
| 19:21:39 | dwihno | Is there an easy way to compile the simulator under windows? |
| 19:21:49 | dwihno | I only got mingw32 and not visual studio |
| 19:22:03 | Bagder | the makefile might work |
| 19:22:17 | Bagder | it works for mingw cross-compile under linux |
| 19:23:48 | dwihno | What do I need to check out to build it? |
| 19:24:02 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/cvs.html |
| 19:24:19 | Bagder | apps, firmware, uisimulator |
| 19:24:59 | Bagder | if you want, you can try the latest version I've auto-built |
| 19:25:31 | Bagder | that of course might not help if you wanna try some patching or similar |
| 19:26:48 | dwihno | I need to compile it since it's quite annoying to compile stuff for the target if I want to test.. |
| 19:27:00 | Bagder | right |
| 19:27:19 | Bagder | so get the sources and try running 'make' plainly in uisimulator/win32 |
| 19:27:31 | Bagder | could work |
| 19:27:50 | dwihno | process_begin: CreateProcess((null), sh.exe -c "if [ ! -d ./.deps ]; then |
| 19:27:50 | dwihno | echo Creating the dependency directory: ./.deps; mkdir - |
| 19:27:50 | dwihno | ./.deps; fi", ...) failed. |
| 19:27:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno |
| 19:27:50 | dwihno | make (e=2): The system cannot find the file specified. |
| 19:27:50 | dwihno | make: *** [.deps/mpeg.d] Error 2 |
| 19:28:08 | Bagder | ah |
| 19:28:44 | Bagder | crap |
| 19:29:08 | dwihno | You bet it is! :) |
| 19:30:13 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-06/0193.shtml |
| 19:30:36 | Bagder | might help |
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| 19:59:20 | ripnetuk | notch - r u there??? sorry, boss turned up, had to work :( |
| 19:59:36 | Bagder | darned thos bosses ;-) |
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| 20:00:05 | ripnetuk | yeah, the cheek - expecting us to do WORK instead of hacking around with open source |
| 20:00:19 | Bagder | totally stupid people |
| 20:00:53 | elinenbe | hey Badger! |
| 20:01:01 | elinenbe | I gots a nice patch coming soon. |
| 20:01:11 | Bagder | I'm ready ;-) |
| 20:01:35 | elinenbe | in a few minutes. how do you commit? "cvs commit file" ? |
| 20:01:41 | elinenbe | I forget. |
| 20:01:42 | Bagder | yes |
| 20:01:55 | elinenbe | how do you type in a message to go with the commit? |
| 20:02:14 | Bagder | it pops up an editor, you write message, save, quit, it sends it off |
| 20:02:27 | elinenbe | okay. will do. |
| 20:02:28 | Bagder | or use -m "message to my commit" |
| 20:03:32 | ripnetuk | i love Rockbox - every time I check my email, my Jukebox has a new feature :) Achos themselves always provide a disapointment when I check their site |
| 20:13:06 | elinenbe | Badger: committed! |
| 20:13:08 | elinenbe | :-) |
| 20:14:25 | Bagder | neato, I'll be sure to try it out |
| 20:14:34 | elinenbe | Badger: what do you think? |
| 20:16:51 | elinenbe | oops forgot to fix it for players too! |
| 20:16:55 | elinenbe | I will recommit |
| 20:24:41 | elinenbe | I am now adding the scroll bar on the side like the archos firmware :-) <−− this is FUN! |
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| 20:25:14 | Zagor | elinenbe: uuuh, make sure it's configurable. I hate that scrollbar... |
| 20:25:24 | Bagder | f3 |
| 20:25:31 | Zagor | good |
| 20:25:36 | elinenbe | okay, I will. I will just add it to the menu... |
| 20:25:43 | elinenbe | do you like the sped up browsing? |
| 20:25:55 | Zagor | haven't looked at it yet |
| 20:26:14 | elinenbe | well, I am off to go swimming. |
| 20:26:15 | elinenbe | later. |
| 20:26:24 | | Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|swim (trilluser@pcp02254422pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 20:36:07 | ripnetuk | is the ui simulator broken in the CVS? or have I picked up an incomplete copy? |
| 20:36:27 | Bagder | x11 version? |
| 20:36:33 | ripnetuk | yeah |
| 20:36:41 | Bagder | builds fine for me |
| 20:36:59 | Bagder | Zagor: showlog.cgi is broken |
| 20:37:04 | ripnetuk | ../../apps/tree.c: In function `dirbrowse': |
| 20:37:04 | ripnetuk | ../../apps/tree.c:571: parse error before `lastfilter' |
| 20:37:09 | Bagder | there's a red build |
| 20:37:23 | Bagder | ripnetuk: you building as a player sim? |
| 20:37:26 | adi|home | Bagder i resent the image |
| 20:37:32 | Bagder | adi|home: I got it |
| 20:37:56 | ripnetuk | building recorder sim |
| 20:38:20 | adi|home | k |
| 20:38:30 | Zagor | Bagder: fixed |
| 20:38:52 | Bagder | ah |
| 20:40:08 | Bagder | ripnetuk: try this |
| 20:40:09 | Zagor | i'm not sure I like the accellerated scroll too much. it feels very uncontrolled. |
| 20:40:25 | Zagor | i think I'd prefer pgup/pgdn buttons |
| 20:41:05 | Bagder | might be hard on the player |
| 20:41:22 | ripnetuk | bag - try what??? |
| 20:41:33 | Bagder | ripnetuk: cvs update, try again ;-) |
| 20:41:35 | Zagor | does ON and +/- do anything in tree mode? |
| 20:41:40 | ripnetuk | ok, thanks, will try now |
| 20:42:37 | ripnetuk | i have a script to pull the latest source off the CVS and build it, but it always prompts me for a password (to which i just press enter) for anon. access - does neone know a switch to specify the blank password as part of the CVS command? |
| 20:43:14 | Zagor | ripnetuk: check the cvs page, it describes how to get rid of the prompt |
| 20:43:16 | ripnetuk | bagder - its ok now, thanks |
| 20:43:24 | Bagder | goodie |
| 20:43:24 | ripnetuk | zag - thanks,will do |
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| 20:57:50 | edx | good evening. |
| 20:58:23 | Hes | good evening |
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| 21:06:36 | Hes | Hey... i have Koss SportaPro's and I like them a lot. But I need some good earphones for in-helmet use too |
| 21:07:02 | Hes | the ones that came with my old Sony CD player suck in sound quality and hurt my ears (even without the motorcycle helmet) |
| 21:08:08 | Zagor | Hes: I recommend, as always, Sony EX70 |
| 21:15:29 | freshmaker | I tried the Sonies, but I prefer Koss "The Plug" w/ modified ear cushoins |
| 21:18:11 | Hes | I want small ones, which don't come out from the ear a lot, otherwise putting on the helmet will Hurt |
| 21:18:54 | Zagor | freshmaker: really? I thought the plugs were a joke compared to the sonys. guess we have different ears :) |
| 21:19:03 | freshmaker | "The Plug" is very small and shouldn't hurt even if you put some pressure on |
| 21:20:29 | freshmaker | Zagor: If the Plug isn't inserted properly, they sound very bad indeed. |
| 21:22:43 | dwihno | Someone with too much time on their hands? _) |
| 21:22:44 | dwihno | :-) |
| 21:24:08 | Hes | Seems the t-shirt-contest-page is broken still |
| 21:25:37 | freshmaker | Hes: Hmm, I think it's broken again. I had it on my browser an hour ago or so. |
| 21:26:45 | Zagor | Hes: oops. fixed now. |
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| 21:40:10 | mistaRx | anybody here?! |
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| 21:50:25 | Hes | sure. |
| 22:00 |
| 22:13:02 | Hes | Got the average power measurement running now |
| 22:13:19 | Hes | hm, statusbar patch won't apply again 8-) |
| 22:14:04 | mbr|gone | Sorry, I had to modify a lot of code in tree.c and it is hard to keep the patch in sync# |
| 22:14:32 | Hes | Yes, it's hard |
| 22:14:40 | mbr|gone | Hopefully it will go to cvs soon |
| 22:15:02 | Hes | yeah, it seems pretty good already |
| 22:16:35 | mbr|gone | I added two mor icons . One shows the play mode (repeat, shuffle..) the other shows a lock, when keys are locked |
| 22:17:07 | mbr|gone | I have uploaded my latest patch (http://www.sty-softwaretechnik.de/~mb |
| 22:18:53 | Hes | Is it against the current cvs? |
| 22:19:19 | ripnetuk | that address doesnt seem to work - cant find server |
| 22:19:36 | mbr|gone | Hes: yes |
| 22:20:17 | mbr|gone | And sorry, typo: http://www.stz-softwaretechnik.de/~mb |
| 22:20:49 | Hes | Excellent |
| 22:26:19 | Hes | 90k recorder binary... |
| 22:26:50 | Hes | Optimizing for smaller size is not too far away 8-) |
| 22:29:04 | mbr|gone | I'm shocked, status bar adds 3500 bytes |
| 22:30:09 | Zagor | look in archos.map to see what uses ram |
| 22:30:44 | Hes | Argh! Forgot my charger at the office again |
| 22:30:49 | Hes | I need another |
| 22:31:11 | freshmaker | 90k? time for a poll whether to drop tetris or sokoban ;-) |
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| 22:36:31 | ripnetuk | surely 90k is not a problem? the original firmware is > that innit? |
| 22:37:53 | Hes | ripnetuk: 90k is not a problem at all |
| 22:37:56 | Synthe | from this users point of view, I'd say drop them both, thats what my palmpilot is for :) |
| 22:37:58 | Zagor | grep .text archos.map | sort +2 |
| 22:38:03 | Hes | 200k will be a problem I think... |
| 22:38:13 | Hes | and 200k will be easy to reach 8-) |
| 22:41:35 | mbr|gone | hae to go. good night everyone! |
| 22:43:12 | Hes | Night |
| 22:45:16 | elinenbe|swim | the original firmware is ~200k −− 90k is nothing. |
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| 22:46:29 | Zagor | still, each wasted k is one k less used for buffering |
| 22:46:50 | dwihno | Ueah |
| 22:46:54 | dwihno | Who wants the games? |
| 22:46:58 | elinenbe | I do! |
| 22:47:01 | dwihno | They should be kept as separate loadable modules |
| 22:47:15 | elinenbe | I agree with that. I think it would be pointless to start removing stuff... |
| 22:47:27 | elinenbe | at least until the firmware is about 200k |
| 22:47:42 | Zagor | many people like the ability to play the games while listening to music |
| 22:48:05 | elinenbe | I love playing tetris, and I programmed the sokoban (which is too much fun!) |
| 22:48:15 | Synthe | the only thing I use my recorder for is as a jukebox while I am doing other things or sleeping |
| 22:48:20 | Synthe | I never even look at it |
| 22:48:28 | Hes | I like the games too |
| 22:48:50 | Hes | Probably no need to select things before we're near the 200k limits |
| 22:48:55 | Synthe | true |
| 22:49:01 | dwihno | Games = loadable modules |
| 22:49:09 | Hes | at which point loadable stuff comes handy |
| 22:49:44 | elinenbe | did anyone check out the fast scrolling patch? |
| 22:49:53 | elinenbe | I am making it configurable too. |
| 22:49:58 | Zagor | yeah, I did. and I don't like it much |
| 22:50:15 | Zagor | it's way too unpredictable. you don't feel in control any longer |
| 22:50:48 | Zagor | I definitely think we should try making pgup/pgdn keys instead |
| 22:51:22 | elinenbe | after 8 downs or ups, it becomes page up/down. |
| 22:52:06 | Zagor | yeah, but with 5 repeat/s, that quickly becomes one helluva lot of pgdn keys... |
| 22:52:23 | dwihno | Zagor: Do you want some work? :-) |
| 22:52:39 | Zagor | hehe. what? |
| 22:52:53 | elinenbe | well, it can be slowed down. |
| 22:53:06 | dwihno | Zagor: adding my cute USB icon to the "USB connected" screen |
| 22:53:16 | Zagor | dwihno: yeah, later :) |
| 22:53:25 | dwihno | No, I want it now now now! :) |
| 22:53:57 | dwihno | It's always later |
| 22:54:05 | Zagor | elinenbe: the point isn't really that it's quick. the problem (imho) is that you don't get to choose when to use page down or line down. it just suddently goes into pgdn mode. |
| 22:55:17 | Zagor | it's too much "the machine decides" for my taste |
| 22:55:27 | elinenbe | can you think of anything better? |
| 22:56:07 | Zagor | yes, dedicated pgup/pgdn keys. like ON-up and ON-down (ON-+/- on player) |
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| 22:58:42 | elinenbe | Zagor: how about pressing the up/down keys moves one line at a time, and holding is pgup/pgdown |
| 22:59:12 | Zagor | how would you do three quick pgdn? |
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| 23:00:14 | elinenbe | just hold it for a second... |
| 23:00:28 | elinenbe | we could slow down the repeat here. |
| 23:00:34 | Zagor | too imprecise |
| 23:01:41 | Zagor | it gets annoying fast to always miss your target because you didn't predict the repeat speed accurately |
| 23:02:16 | elinenbe | not if it goes one screen per half second. |
| 23:02:53 | Zagor | then it's annoyingly slow instead. I want one screen per my click, no machine-decided speed |
| 23:05:22 | elinenbe | have you used the ipod at all? |
| 23:05:28 | Zagor | nop |
| 23:06:27 | elinenbe | well, then I will make it an option. I like it very much. but it is not for everyone. |
| 23:12:14 | Zagor | what's the advantage over dedicated keys? i see none. |
| 23:22:38 | elinenbe | one handed operation. I use it on my bicycle all the time, and it is nearly impossible to use both hands. |
| 23:26:23 | Zagor | i also am not too fond of how it basically duplicates the code in the _NEXT and _PREV cases. |
| 23:26:33 | Zagor | one-handed operation is a good point, though |
| 23:28:13 | elinenbe | i am not fond of that either. |
| 23:29:15 | elinenbe | brb |
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