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| 01:37:33 | freshmaker | is still someone there? |
| 01:38:43 | Zagor | yup |
| 01:39:53 | freshmaker | Zagor: what's the size of the player's LCD? |
| 01:40:21 | Zagor | 11x2 characters |
| 01:41:01 | freshmaker | ONLY 2 LINES?? thank god, i have a recorder :-) |
| 01:41:37 | freshmaker | can i use all 11 chars in menu entries? or are there some other constraints? |
| 01:42:43 | Zagor | they scroll, so it's ok. if you can keep it to 10 it's best though |
| 01:43:50 | freshmaker | hmm, what's a good short version of "volume characteristik"? |
| 01:46:21 | Zagor | "Vol scale" maybe? |
| 01:52:22 | freshmaker | can i use the struct global_settings in mpeg.c ? |
| 01:52:35 | Zagor | no |
| 01:54:04 | freshmaker | is there any way to get an int from global_settings into mpeg_sound_set() w/o changing the API? |
| 01:54:21 | Zagor | no |
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| 01:56:56 | freshmaker | ok, then it must be done somewhere else. |
| 01:58:31 | freshmaker | i need a small function in sound_menu.c and wps.c doing that voluem scale conversion, what's the best place to put it |
| 01:58:56 | Zagor | wps? why do you need it in wps? |
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| 02:00:00 | freshmaker | wps calls mpeg_sound_set(SOUND_VOLUME, ...) |
| 02:01:47 | Zagor | yeah, but many other places do that too. we need a more central place to do the scaling. |
| 02:03:38 | freshmaker | yes, that would be mpeg_sound_set() itself, but i need to get the info which scale to use; currently i'm storing it in global_settings |
| 02:05:34 | Zagor | a new sound setting, then. SOUND_VOL_SCALE |
| 02:06:25 | Zagor | i'm off to bed. see you, guys |
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| 02:25:10 | elinenbe | http://www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php3?ID=4530 |
| 02:27:30 | freshmaker | yeah, nice. but that new toshiba thing is much nicer :-) |
| 02:29:42 | freshmaker | do you know how large that Mambo-X P350 is? |
| 02:30:00 | elinenbe | 3 feet by 2 feet |
| 02:30:24 | elinenbe | it uses a jukebox of old 5 1/4" floppies |
| 02:30:55 | freshmaker | hmm, portable as a backpack? |
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| 04:12:48 | USAG33k | d00d, i have no idea how to program at all for rockbox |
| 04:12:57 | USAG33k | but like, i have a feeling i am going to tear it up eventually |
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| 04:24:53 | MeRWiN | How much does HZ equal again? |
| 04:26:41 | adi|home | kernel.h:#define HZ 100 /* number of ticks per second */ |
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| 04:35:07 | MeRWiN | ahh |
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| 07:22:00 | rwood | Hi, this is Randy Wood, is linus listening? |
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| 07:22:35 | Linus | i am |
| 07:23:02 | Linus | i reviewed your patch yesterday |
| 07:23:07 | rwood | Did you get my email regarding file attributes |
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| 07:23:25 | Linus | not that i can remember |
| 07:23:30 | elinenbe | morning. |
| 07:23:35 | elinenbe | I am heading to sleep. |
| 07:23:44 | Linus | sleep tight, elinenbe |
| 07:24:15 | rwood | i looked at the IRC log from yesterday, it looked like you had a problem and were questioning attributes. |
| 07:24:36 | Linus | i was just wondering how many bits we could use |
| 07:25:06 | rwood | fat.h has the attribute field a unsigned short, tree.c used char. i changed tree.c to match fat.h |
| 07:25:21 | Linus | yeah i noticed that |
| 07:25:42 | rwood | were you able to get it to run? |
| 07:25:47 | Linus | not on the recorder |
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| 07:26:15 | MeRWiN | morning linus |
| 07:26:18 | Linus | morn |
| 07:27:03 | rwood | my guess is that it has something to to with stopping the running app before loading the file or initializing the hardware before transferring to the new app |
| 07:28:02 | rwood | someone that has looked at the hardware could probably give some insight into what i should have done |
| 07:28:48 | Linus | yeah, it's just a matter of resetting to the initial state |
| 07:29:54 | MeRWiN | Linus: too bad it can't make it in 1.2 ... but I'm guessing that there's probably a few hidden bugs that might need to be worked out, so it seems as if it's probably better that it's not in 1.2 |
| 07:29:57 | MeRWiN | rwood: great patch though :) |
| 07:31:01 | rwood | i'm considering getting a recorder - harmony computer has the 10gb for $219 and a $30 mail-in rebate |
| 07:31:17 | MeRWiN | Linus: also, something that was done in the past week or so to the code stopped that problem with skipping to the next track immediately after loading it |
| 07:31:18 | Linus | MeRWiN: yeah, for example, i'd like it to work on the recorder :-) |
| 07:31:29 | MeRWiN | Linus: working on both is probably a good thing |
| 07:31:41 | MeRWiN | rwood: where are you from? |
| 07:32:02 | Linus | MeRWiN: what skipping-to-the-next-track problem? |
| 07:32:19 | rwood | Newport Beach, CA - my company is about a mile from disneyland |
| 07:32:43 | MeRWiN | Linus: in playlists, if you skipped to the next track and then tried to skip to another track within 3 seconds it wouldn't load because the HD was told to spin down |
| 07:32:57 | MeRWiN | rwood: nice :) I'm from sunny washington state |
| 07:32:57 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 07:35:41 | Linus | and i'm from cloudy Sweden |
| 07:36:06 | MeRWiN | Linus: I'm heading over to europe next week for work... spain, uk, italy, and france |
| 07:36:22 | Linus | Björn's latest next-file CVS commit wasn't all that good |
| 07:36:32 | Linus | MeRWiN: nice |
| 07:36:41 | MeRWiN | Linus: the next file is working now though... i was suprised |
| 07:36:58 | Linus | it isn't when you have several tracks in memory |
| 07:37:20 | MeRWiN | Linus: like how many? and does this happen with dir and playlist? |
| 07:37:54 | Linus | i have thought a long time of doing that fix, but i haven't because it is very tricky |
| 07:38:24 | Linus | it fails when you have more that just the next track loaded in memory |
| 07:38:34 | rwood | Linus: are you looking at improving the time to change to the next track? |
| 07:38:41 | Linus | like when you have a dir full of very short files |
| 07:38:45 | MeRWiN | ahh... so if you have a file that is under 1mb |
| 07:38:51 | MeRWiN | it'll load that file and the next also |
| 07:38:52 | Linus | indeed |
| 07:38:55 | Linus | yes |
| 07:39:04 | Linus | rwood: that was the intention |
| 07:39:29 | Linus | but Björn rushed it (right before the 1.2 release, shame on him) |
| 07:39:53 | MeRWiN | Linus: were we going to leave random as it is for the 1.2 release? Right now for me it doesn't start with the selected file. I strongly suggest changing that for the release :) |
| 07:41:52 | MeRWiN | is there an easy way to reset all of your files to the cvs files? or is it just rm -rf and a cvs update |
| 07:42:42 | Linus | MeRWiN: remove and update is the best |
| 07:42:49 | MeRWiN | okey |
| 07:42:59 | Linus | other people strongly suggest that it should play a random file |
| 07:43:05 | MeRWiN | Linus: i'm working on individual patches right now... for AFTER 1.2 |
| 07:43:14 | Linus | great |
| 07:43:52 | MeRWiN | i figure it's better than a huge patch full of everything |
| 07:45:36 | rwood | Linus: there has been some discussion of changing the previous/back key to operate like a CD player - restart track is > n seconds, start previous track is < n seconds. what are the developers plans? |
| 07:46:27 | MeRWiN | Linus: I just recompiled the archos.mod from the CVS and the player still displays "Time: XX:XX / XX:XX" instead of "XX:XX/XX:XX" ... weird, someone must have reversed it |
| 07:48:07 | MeRWiN | rwood: wouldn't take too much work to implement... I'll write a patch for it now :) |
| 07:50:28 | Linus | MeRWiN: do you really think it's that easy? |
| 07:50:35 | Linus | hehe |
| 07:50:58 | rwood | MerWin: that would be great - by the way, thanks for the complimnent earlier - this is the first time that i have been in a chat room and i'm running a step behind |
| 07:51:39 | MeRWiN | rwood: heh... this channel is usually dead from about 5pm to 11pm our time, just to let you know |
| 07:52:10 | Linus | MeRWiN: the time display looks ok in the source code |
| 07:53:09 | rwood | MeRWiN: i sort of guessed that from the logs on the site - my wife crashes about 9 and i play on the computer til 12 or 1 |
| 07:54:00 | MeRWiN | snprintf(buffer,sizeof(buffer), "Time:%3d:%02d/%d:%02d", |
| 07:54:05 | MeRWiN | that's what's in the current cvs code |
| 07:54:15 | MeRWiN | I just removed my file and updated |
| 07:54:49 | Linus | now i see |
| 07:56:18 | Linus | MeRWiN: change it too "%d:%02d/%d:%02d " and try again |
| 07:56:42 | MeRWiN | Linus: that will work |
| 07:57:26 | MeRWiN | That makes it up to 11 characters if it's under 100 minutes |
| 07:57:44 | Linus | i guess that will be enough :-) |
| 07:58:34 | Linus | committed |
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| 08:00:04 | MeRWiN | Linus: i would personally use %02d for all, because it would look nicer, but unfortunately it would limit it to under 100 minutes :( |
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| 08:03:15 | Bagder | moo |
| 08:03:28 | Linus | goo |
| 08:04:02 | Bagder | I checked yday more closely, the archos stock firmware charges my batteries a lot more |
| 08:04:18 | Linus | ok |
| 08:04:36 | Bagder | when I switch over to rockbox, I got at least 5.55 V |
| 08:04:48 | Linus | let's harass Hes when he wakes up |
| 08:04:50 | Bagder | while rockbox could stop already at 5.1 |
| 08:05:04 | Bagder | yeah |
| 08:05:37 | Linus | how long did the Archos charge take compared to the rockbox charge? |
| 08:05:40 | Bagder | in the meantime, I'll charge my unit with the stock firmware until it says "charged" and check again with the battery meter display |
| 08:06:00 | Bagder | I didn't even bother to wait for the Archos charge to complete |
| 08:06:06 | Bagder | it takes *a lot* longer |
| 08:06:44 | Linus | interesting, i guess they don't use negative-delta detection |
| 08:07:02 | Linus | we need to do some more research |
| 08:07:02 | Bagder | very possible |
| 08:07:11 | Bagder | or perhaps a less strict check |
| 08:07:18 | Linus | Bagder: Zagors last mpeg.c fix sucks |
| 08:07:26 | Bagder | uh |
| 08:07:27 | Bagder | let |
| 08:07:30 | Linus | he must have been tired |
| 08:07:41 | Bagder | 's yell at him when he gets here ;-) |
| 08:08:54 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 08:08:54 | * | Bagder laughs... |
| 08:09:03 | Bagder | "words=BIG+BREAST" |
| 08:09:10 | Bagder | parts of a search string on the curl site |
| 08:09:46 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 08:14:49 | Linus | sounds desperate to me |
| 08:15:22 | Bagder | to me it sounds like "I don't know what I'm doing here but let's search for some porno at least" |
| 08:17:14 | Linus | :-) |
| 08:17:47 | Bagder | Linus: the netscape webmail thing turned out to be a whole can of worms ;-O |
| 08:18:10 | Bagder | but I'm doing progress |
| 08:18:11 | Linus | i just read on a battery manufacturer's site that they recommend about 2 hours of trickle charging after negative delta detection |
| 08:18:20 | Linus | Bagder: surprised? |
| 08:18:40 | Bagder | yes, this is worse than I expected |
| 08:18:47 | Linus | cookie hell? |
| 08:18:54 | Bagder | redirect mania |
| 08:19:00 | Bagder | javascript hell |
| 08:19:04 | Linus | aaahh |
| 08:19:21 | Bagder | during the login process, my mozilla does 29 GET requests and 3 POSTs |
| 08:19:36 | Linus | it's called "web designer job security" |
| 08:19:44 | Bagder | yeah |
| 08:19:58 | Linus | or maybe just plain stupidity |
| 08:20:11 | Bagder | I think they've obfuscated this on purpose |
| 08:20:18 | Linus | in the web design business, it's hard to tell the difference |
| 08:20:23 | Bagder | hehe |
| 08:21:06 | Bagder | Linus: seen the new status page on the rockbox site? |
| 08:21:23 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/status.shtml |
| 08:21:32 | Bagder | all you want in a single page ;-) |
| 08:22:08 | Linus | nice |
| 08:22:22 | Linus | i like the bleeding edge builds |
| 08:22:31 | Bagder | yeah |
| 08:22:48 | Bagder | that version define is nice in those |
| 08:23:03 | Linus | what is it? |
| 08:23:25 | Bagder | it sets the version string to date and time |
| 08:23:33 | Bagder | that shows in the version screen |
| 08:24:00 | Linus | but that isn't exactly new |
| 08:24:06 | Bagder | no |
| 08:24:14 | Bagder | but useful in these cases |
| 08:24:19 | Linus | yeah |
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| 08:39:55 | MeRWiN | i'm having much more trouble with just restarting the track than i thought it was going to be |
| 08:40:06 | Linus | MeRWiN: i warned you |
| 08:40:11 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 08:40:20 | MeRWiN | I can get close |
| 08:40:47 | MeRWiN | Linus: shouldn't be too hard, because if you restart the track within the first 3 seconds, it will all still be in memory... |
| 08:41:05 | MeRWiN | you just need to change the last_dma_tick, right? |
| 08:41:17 | Linus | not at all |
| 08:41:34 | Linus | you might have to back the buffer pointers |
| 08:41:47 | Linus | and reinit the dma |
| 08:42:11 | MeRWiN | reinit the dma is easy... back the buffer pointers i don't get |
| 08:42:50 | Linus | if the dma has advanced one block it will have advanced the read pointer as well |
| 08:43:59 | Linus | that can happpen on high-bitrate files |
| 08:44:04 | MeRWiN | hmm |
| 08:44:41 | MeRWiN | i could do it the old fashioned way and do prev_track() next_track() :-) |
| 08:44:44 | MeRWiN | j/k |
| 08:44:57 | * | Bagder slaps MeRWiN ;-) |
| 08:45:05 | MeRWiN | hah |
| 08:45:13 | Linus | and you could probably get a TRACK_CHANGE event that you don't want |
| 08:45:47 | MeRWiN | I like this sh1 compiler in cygwin much better than that other one that's on the website |
| 08:46:03 | Linus | it is almost the same problem Zagor didn't care about in his latest "fix" |
| 08:46:32 | MeRWiN | what is the problem with his latest fix... the don't load from disk? |
| 08:47:03 | Linus | it skips more than one file |
| 08:47:44 | Linus | well, it screws up big time, actually :-) |
| 08:48:00 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 08:48:09 | MeRWiN | I'd consider that a showstopper for the release :P |
| 08:48:31 | Linus | if you ask Zagor he probably wouldn't |
| 08:48:36 | Bagder | hahah |
| 08:48:49 | Linus | "not many people have that small files" |
| 08:48:56 | Linus | "i don't" |
| 08:49:04 | Bagder | it is probably true |
| 08:49:31 | Linus | yeah, i guess most people have files over 1.5Mb |
| 08:49:43 | Bagder | yes, 99% at least |
| 08:49:52 | MeRWiN | i've got a bundle of them under 1.5mb |
| 08:50:02 | Linus | the problem is that his patch also can stop playback accidentally |
| 08:50:11 | MeRWiN | about 50% of the southpark mp3's are under 1.5mb |
| 08:50:11 | Bagder | ouch |
| 08:50:24 | Linus | if the next file is only partially loaded |
| 08:50:56 | Linus | we have to remember that not all people have only cd-rips on their boxes |
| 08:51:21 | MeRWiN | yeah |
| 08:51:26 | Linus | they download small files from the net, they record snippets with their recorders |
| 08:51:34 | Bagder | you mean someone might have DOWNLOADED files? B-) |
| 08:52:06 | Linus | not me of course, but i have read i the newspapers that some people do that |
| 08:52:11 | Linus | :-) |
| 08:52:15 | * | adi|home gasps |
| 08:52:18 | adi|home | those sinners |
| 08:52:18 | Bagder | hehe |
| 08:52:22 | * | adi|home goes back to bed |
| 08:52:45 | Bagder | I wish someone made a good audiogalaxy replacement |
| 08:52:50 | MeRWiN | actually, doing mpeg_prev(); mpeg_next(); seems to work :P It doesn't even seem to up the load time at all. |
| 08:52:54 | MeRWiN | g'nite adi |
| 08:54:08 | Linus | MeRWiN: have you changed the ata_sleep() |
| 08:54:13 | MeRWiN | Linus: nope |
| 08:54:33 | MeRWiN | Linus: i took the stock cvs and added mpeg_prev(); mpeg_next(); to it |
| 08:54:47 | Linus | but you have zagor's latest "fix"? |
| 08:54:52 | MeRWiN | yup |
| 08:54:55 | MeRWiN | current cvs |
| 08:56:12 | Linus | then it loads the previous track and then the next again |
| 08:56:18 | MeRWiN | yup |
| 08:56:44 | Linus | nasty |
| 08:57:47 | MeRWiN | doesn't seem to up the load time though... it's really interesting |
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| 08:58:06 | MeRWiN | you should try it :) It's like a 5 line patch |
| 08:58:12 | Linus | as long as the disk is spinning, and the track is in the disk cache... |
| 08:58:33 | MeRWiN | ? |
| 08:58:44 | rwood | MeRWiN: it seems like it should double the load time minus the spinup time |
| 08:59:08 | Linus | not really |
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| 09:00:10 | Linus | it stops the loading of the first track before it has loaded the large part of it (before the low watermark is passed) |
| 09:00:40 | Linus | so it loads 64-128k of the first track and then starts loading the correct track |
| 09:01:06 | Linus | but it will have to seek both files for the ID3 info |
| 09:01:20 | MeRWiN | Linus: the only weird part is that it says "End of track, Press ON" inbetween restarting |
| 09:01:21 | rwood | i was just going to ask how much you loaded before starting |
| 09:02:02 | MeRWiN | err |
| 09:02:05 | MeRWiN | end of list, press on |
| 09:02:49 | Linus | rwood: it loads in 64K blocks until the low watermark is reached (which is 512K atm) |
| 09:03:04 | Linus | the it loads the rest in one chunk |
| 09:03:26 | rwood | Linus: thanks |
| 09:04:40 | Linus | the low watermark is probably way too high nowadays |
| 09:04:58 | rwood | is there much difference in performance between ID3-1, ID3-2, and no ID3? |
| 09:05:13 | Linus | not really |
| 09:05:19 | MeRWiN | it tries to load both of the id3's no matter what, right? |
| 09:05:31 | Linus | the id3 parser looks for both v1 and v2 |
| 09:05:57 | Linus | if we didn't look for v1 of v2 is found, we can gain some performance |
| 09:06:02 | Linus | if |
| 09:08:33 | rwood | the next track time on the Archos firmware is so small, they must be loading a very small sample before starting |
| 09:08:57 | MeRWiN | wow, Micro$oft added a "Set program access and defaults" where you can supposedly disable media player, ie, etc |
| 09:10:36 | Linus | rwood: do they spin up the disk at all? |
| 09:11:57 | MeRWiN | Linus: maybe we could have a little 512k segment that has the beginning of the next track in it? |
| 09:12:00 | rwood | more like they don't spin down immediately - possibly they let the shut-down timer spin down then sleep later? |
| 09:12:02 | MeRWiN | or even 256k |
| 09:12:42 | Bagder | right, we still spin down too fast, don't we? |
| 09:13:08 | Bagder | when loading music |
| 09:13:27 | rwood | i think that a spin down time like the backlight timer might be useful |
| 09:13:45 | MeRWiN | rwood: this was discussed as an option in the menus |
| 09:13:45 | Bagder | rwood: there is one, but the mp3 loader circumvents it ;-) |
| 09:13:47 | Linus | MeRWiN: we always have the next track in memory |
| 09:14:00 | MeRWiN | Linus: then why does it take so long to load it? |
| 09:14:39 | Linus | because we don't use the already loaded track when we press NEXT (well, that is what Zagor tried to do, and failed) |
| 09:14:55 | Bagder | ah |
| 09:15:01 | MeRWiN | even with what zagor did, it still doesn't do it for me |
| 09:15:02 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 09:15:10 | rwood | is the reaction time of the disk different for shut-down versus sleep? |
| 09:15:11 | Linus | we reset the buffer and start over with the next track |
| 09:15:24 | Linus | MeRWiN: that is why i wrote that he failed |
| 09:15:36 | MeRWiN | heh... ok. |
| 09:15:43 | Linus | rwood: on my disk there is hardly any difference |
| 09:15:45 | MeRWiN | he should really have thought first |
| 09:15:48 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 09:16:10 | MeRWiN | in any case, bedtime for me... gotta get up in 2.5 hours |
| 09:16:17 | Linus | MeRWiN: night |
| 09:16:22 | MeRWiN | nite |
| 09:16:48 | Bagder | night MeRWiN |
| 09:17:18 | rwood | MeRWin: thanks for trying - night |
| 09:19:21 | Linus | i'll debug zagor's fix now... |
| 09:19:39 | Linus | loading... |
| 09:19:52 | Linus | (gdb rocks) |
| 09:20:20 | * | Bagder hails Linus |
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| 09:21:03 | rwood | Linus: do you have a full rs-232 interface to gdb? |
| 09:21:11 | Linus | yes |
| 09:22:05 | rwood | are you using both the in and remote for communications? |
| 09:22:45 | Linus | i have connected serial port 0 to the line-in plug |
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| 09:24:10 | rwood | the pictures on the site show adding two wires - do both go to the line-in connector? |
| 09:24:22 | Linus | yes |
| 09:25:11 | rwood | does the mod work for both player and recorder? |
| 09:25:25 | Linus | yes, but you have to do it differently |
| 09:25:43 | Linus | the circuit boards don't look the same |
| 09:26:25 | Linus | i was lucky on my recorder, the Line-In was already patched |
| 09:26:41 | Linus | so i just moved the wires |
| 09:27:30 | Linus | i just received 4 Nigeria bank account scams! |
| 09:27:51 | Linus | major mail address harvesting |
| 09:28:08 | rwood | i'm leaving for vacation fri. i'll my re-work girl mod my player week after next. |
| 09:28:34 | Linus | good |
| 09:29:00 | rwood | we get Nigerian faxes 2 or 3 times a week - it's amazing the number of people that fall for it |
| 09:29:29 | Bagder | I find the mount of different versions of the Nigerian mail interesting |
| 09:29:37 | Bagder | there must be a lot of people involved |
| 09:29:39 | * | adi|home nods |
| 09:29:53 | adi|home | artcile in the local paper said some couple lost 25k |
| 09:29:55 | adi|home | LOL |
| 09:30:31 | rwood | the new one is to get you to a different country, then hold you for ransom |
| 09:35:04 | Bagder | hm, I got 6 ones |
| 09:35:10 | Bagder | "DR. VICTOR PETERS" |
| 09:35:23 | Linus | same as i got |
| 09:36:49 | | Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
| 09:36:49 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno |
| 09:36:53 | dwihno | Good morning! :) |
| 09:37:01 | rwood | it's dark night 30 here - i'm giving up for the night |
| 09:37:20 | Bagder | g'night rwood |
| 09:37:22 | Linus | rwood: good night |
| 09:37:59 | rwood | Linus: i hope you can correct the error in ROLO for the recorder, after you get 1.2 released. |
| 09:38:23 | Linus | sure |
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| 09:39:38 | adi|home | we have a version of ROLO working |
| 09:39:39 | adi|home | ? |
| 09:39:54 | Linus | does it work for you? |
| 09:39:57 | Bagder | adi|home: we have rwood's patch that loads a mod and runs it |
| 09:40:08 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:40:08 | * | adi|home faints |
| 09:40:11 | adi|home | wtf did we get that? |
| 09:40:26 | * | adi|home needs to come back to the project |
| 09:40:43 | adi|home | well.. as soon as 1.2 goes gold, im putting in the patch for song limit sleep |
| 09:40:58 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-08/0162.shtml |
| 09:42:32 | adi|home | damn.. i completely missed that |
| 09:42:40 | adi|home | whats the bug in it? |
| 09:43:06 | * | Bagder hasn't tried it |
| 09:43:34 | * | adi|home nods |
| 09:43:42 | * | adi|home will wait while others play |
| 09:43:47 | Linus | the loaded firmware freezes on the recorder |
| 09:43:59 | adi|home | im prob going to see if one of my buds can give me a hand soldering this damn player |
| 09:44:05 | adi|home | the reboot is WAY to sensative |
| 09:44:33 | Linus | reboot? sensitive? |
| 09:46:37 | * | adi|home nods |
| 09:46:39 | adi|home | the battery issue |
| 09:46:44 | adi|home | contacts and all |
| 09:46:51 | adi|home | ive been dealing with it since i got the unit |
| 09:47:05 | adi|home | everything is fine when its plugged in.. but unplug it.. and *poof* |
| 10:00 |
| 10:07:09 | Bagder | btw, is there really a need for the config entry 'status bar' ? |
| 10:07:20 | Bagder | given that f3 works |
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| 10:08:59 | mbr | morn |
| 10:09:12 | Bagder | morning mbr |
| 10:09:24 | mbr | Bagder: The global setting was on wishlist .. |
| 10:09:36 | Linus | Bagder: the F3 setting isnt't saved |
| 10:09:51 | Bagder | so why not let f3 toggle the setting |
| 10:10:14 | Bagder | I think it makes more sense |
| 10:10:21 | Linus | maybe |
| 10:10:44 | Bagder | now it works like a setting to enable the f3 for toggling |
| 10:11:29 | dwihno | Don't you think it would be better keeping all the configuration in a separate place? |
| 10:11:41 | Bagder | no |
| 10:11:50 | Bagder | I think it should be easy to use |
| 10:12:00 | Bagder | this makes it harder to use |
| 10:12:02 | Bagder | imho |
| 10:12:03 | Linus | the relative path handling in playlist.c puts two slashes between the path and the file |
| 10:13:18 | Linus | ugly |
| 10:14:07 | mbr | Bagder: ok, i think it makes sense to remove the settings menu. i'll remove it. shall i do it now or wait until 1.2 released? |
| 10:14:31 | Bagder | to keep Zagor happy, it should prolly wait until after |
| 10:14:52 | Linus | i am very keen on removing his silly next-file fix |
| 10:15:16 | Bagder | so correcting it is much work? |
| 10:16:28 | Linus | yes |
| 10:16:34 | mbr | Bagder: One other thing about that. Now I recall, that I introduced the extra menu. |
| 10:17:10 | mbr | I don't wanted to change a global setting every time the status bar is turned off (for menu, usb) |
| 10:17:38 | Bagder | ah |
| 10:17:47 | mbr | May be a problem if we save to disk .. |
| 10:17:58 | Bagder | but the global setting needs only to be changed when f3 is pressed |
| 10:18:13 | mbr | You are right ... |
| 10:18:27 | Linus | the menus and the USB don't have to care about the status bar setting |
| 10:18:38 | Linus | they just don't call status_draw() |
| 10:19:15 | Bagder | also a good point |
| 10:19:58 | Linus | and also a good reason not to have the status bar drawing in a separate thread, as was my idea a while ago |
| 10:20:00 | Bagder | then again, why isn't there a status bar in the menus? |
| 10:20:23 | Linus | because they don't call status_draw() |
| 10:20:31 | Bagder | hehe |
| 10:20:36 | Bagder | well shouldn't it? |
| 10:20:42 | Linus | probably |
| 10:23:58 | Bagder | I think the status bar should be present more or less everywhere |
| 10:24:17 | Linus | me too |
| 10:24:38 | Linus | maybe not in the games |
| 10:24:41 | mbr | Even in usb mode? |
| 10:24:46 | Linus | sure |
| 10:24:57 | Bagder | perhaps not in usb mode |
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| 10:25:16 | Linus | it would actually be nice to see the battery status |
| 10:25:24 | Bagder | that is true |
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| 10:25:36 | Linus | but that takes more than just a status_draw() |
| 10:25:41 | Bagder | you wanna know if it is gonna die while usb'ing |
| 10:25:53 | Linus | because the power thread is stopped while the USB is working |
| 10:25:57 | Bagder | ah |
| 10:26:10 | Bagder | but it doesn't have to be stopped, right? |
| 10:26:11 | Linus | a fairly quick fix though |
| 10:26:17 | mbr | The problem is, that each lcd owning thread must redraw status bar periodicaly |
| 10:26:24 | Linus | yes |
| 10:26:25 | Bagder | yes |
| 10:26:54 | notch | Linus: got my remote routine working... however as soon as I send a command the software frezes... |
| 10:27:14 | Linus | mbr: the button_get_w_tmo() was made for that purpose |
| 10:27:17 | notch | I'm going to look into it, however any ideas off the top of your head? |
| 10:27:39 | Linus | notch: do you clear the interrupt after serving it? |
| 10:27:52 | Linus | ie writing 0 to the event bit |
| 10:28:53 | notch | manuals! who needs them! weve got linus! |
| 10:29:22 | * | Bagder slaps the "manual" sticker on Linus' forhead |
| 10:30:21 | Linus | RTFM? No, ALFGS: Ask Linus For God's Sake |
| 10:31:10 | Linus | notch: you have to read the event register first, and then clear the bit |
| 10:32:18 | notch | ie read the result, then clear the int bit... In the manual it says this is automatically cleared grrrrr.. |
| 10:33:04 | Bagder | I'm disspointed, you *did* read the manual! ;-P |
| 10:33:20 | notch | for what good it did me! |
| 10:33:36 | Linus | notch: i am talking about TDRE |
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| 10:33:49 | Zagor | morning |
| 10:33:55 | Bagder | ok guys, one two... three |
| 10:33:58 | Linus | and RDRF |
| 10:33:59 | Bagder | boooo zagor ;-) |
| 10:34:05 | Linus | booo |
| 10:34:09 | Linus | booo |
| 10:34:10 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Linus |
| 10:34:10 | Linus | booo |
| 10:34:11 | Zagor | hehe, what? |
| 10:34:12 | notch | booo (for what?) |
| 10:34:25 | Linus | because his next-track-in-ram fix sucks |
| 10:34:39 | Linus | :-) |
| 10:35:04 | Zagor | haha. well why don't I see a patch for it then? |
| 10:35:32 | Bagder | because we rather complain than actually do anything ;-) |
| 10:35:38 | Linus | because i haven't found out how to do it properly |
| 10:35:56 | Zagor | what's the problem with my method? it works for me. |
| 10:35:58 | Linus | that is why i havent done that obvious enhancement yet |
| 10:36:17 | Linus | Zagor: you probably have only two tracks in memory |
| 10:36:22 | notch | linus: TDRE (Transmit) or RDRF ???? |
| 10:36:24 | Linus | the current and the next |
| 10:36:31 | Linus | RDRF |
| 10:36:55 | Linus | it is cleared when you read a 1 and then write a 0 |
| 10:37:05 | Zagor | Linus: and it doesn't work with 3, because? |
| 10:37:29 | Linus | because it does two track changes |
| 10:37:41 | Zagor | uh? |
| 10:37:52 | Linus | the DMA IRQ sends a track change event |
| 10:37:56 | Zagor | ahh |
| 10:38:03 | Linus | it isn't that easy |
| 10:38:18 | notch | linus: |
| 10:38:18 | Linus | but there is another bug too, that i haven't found yet |
| 10:38:19 | notch | char serial_byte; |
| 10:38:19 | notch | serial_byte = RDR1; |
| 10:38:19 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK notch |
| 10:38:19 | notch | SSR1 &= 0x40; /* Clear RDRF */ |
| 10:38:33 | Linus | RDR1 is a bit in SSR1 |
| 10:38:49 | Linus | SSR1 = SSR1 & ~0x40; |
| 10:39:03 | notch | arrgh! |
| 10:39:31 | Linus | Zagor: your fix will stop playback if the next track is only partially loaded |
| 10:39:42 | Linus | like if only 32K is loaded |
| 10:40:00 | Zagor | you mean if not a whole dma buffer is loaded |
| 10:40:08 | Linus | we must set the panding flag, and load more data before starting the DMA |
| 10:40:12 | notch | notch claims cut and paste immunity! |
| 10:40:23 | Linus | otherwise the disk won't spin up in time |
| 10:40:28 | Zagor | Linus: that kills the whole point of the fix |
| 10:40:42 | Linus | you mean you want it to stop playback? |
| 10:41:06 | Linus | that only applies when too little of the next track is loaded |
| 10:41:13 | Zagor | no, but we don't want to load more data unless we're below watermark |
| 10:41:21 | Linus | yes? |
| 10:41:28 | Linus | of course |
| 10:41:49 | Linus | i just mean that the fix is incomplete |
| 10:42:51 | Linus | it isn't as easy as just advancing the read pointer and restart the dma |
| 10:43:07 | Linus | if it was, i would have done it a long time ago |
| 10:45:15 | Zagor | well, if we perform the track change instead of posting to the queue the dma interrupt won't run it again |
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| 10:46:28 | Linus | or we could just let the dma do it |
| 10:46:37 | Linus | and don't do it ourselves |
| 10:47:04 | Zagor | right |
| 10:47:24 | Linus | but woth the special case when the next track is below the watermark |
| 10:47:44 | Linus | then we set the pending flag and start loading data |
| 10:48:01 | Zagor | yes |
| 10:48:31 | Zagor | i remember now, when I didn't change track it didn't work. I never got the problem with two track changes. |
| 10:49:09 | Linus | that's probably because you only had two tracks in memory |
| 10:49:40 | Zagor | that shouldn't make a difference. we only deal with one track change here. |
| 10:49:51 | Linus | no |
| 10:50:09 | Zagor | yes |
| 10:50:22 | Linus | if you have several tracks in memory, the dma thread will send a track change event too |
| 10:51:10 | Zagor | no. if i've already done the track change, the read pointer in the dma check won't match current buffer. (it looks at next track) |
| 10:51:30 | Linus | exactly my point |
| 10:52:01 | Zagor | so... then it won't do the track change. and there is no problem. will you start talking anytime soon? |
| 10:54:55 | Linus | hmmmm. maybe the bug is something else.... |
| 10:55:07 | Linus | the GDB output is strange |
| 10:55:19 | Zagor | do you have some nice short tracks I can use for testing? |
| 10:55:39 | Linus | i think i know what it is now |
| 10:56:04 | Linus | my Farbror Frej tracks are very short |
| 10:57:02 | Linus | init_dma() doesn't take that into account |
| 10:57:31 | Linus | it inits a 64K buffer regardless of the next track change pointer |
| 10:58:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 10:58:09 | Zagor | oh |
| 10:58:29 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|breakfast (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
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| 10:58:52 | Linus | i think we can trick the DMA IRQ to do it by playing the last byte of the current song |
| 10:59:00 | edx | good morning. |
| 10:59:04 | Linus | morning |
| 10:59:20 | Bagder | morning edx |
| 10:59:43 | Bagder | I found out that the bleedging edge win32 simulator files don't run |
| 10:59:52 | edx | grr |
| 10:59:56 | Linus | very bleeding then |
| 10:59:57 | edx | wait |
| 11:00 |
| 11:00:08 | Bagder | it might be my cross-compile that doesn't work completely |
| 11:00:13 | Bagder | I've never tried them before |
| 11:00:15 | edx | recorder or player or both? |
| 11:00:18 | Bagder | both |
| 11:00:27 | Bagder | try them from the daily build page |
| 11:00:32 | Bagder | at the bottom |
| 11:00:35 | edx | HUH? |
| 11:00:38 | edx | what the f... |
| 11:00:45 | edx | they are like consoles |
| 11:00:48 | Linus | Bagder: haven't you tried to run them at all?????? |
| 11:00:54 | edx | .. they are supposed to be windows |
| 11:00:54 | Bagder | no |
| 11:01:04 | Linus | Bagder: that's naive |
| 11:01:06 | Bagder | ah, I bet that's a reason |
| 11:01:10 | edx | try those: http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs/ - they work |
| 11:01:36 | Bagder | Linus: no, only if I thought it would work |
| 11:01:44 | Linus | :-) |
| 11:02:09 | Bagder | so they probably don't work since they're not console applications |
| 11:02:11 | Bagder | or something |
| 11:02:26 | Linus | if you didn't think it would work, why did you put them up for download? |
| 11:02:32 | Bagder | whatever, they still work as a good test that the win32 code compiles |
| 11:02:37 | Bagder | Linus: I didn't |
| 11:02:43 | Bagder | Zagor did |
| 11:02:45 | edx | Bagder: yes, exactly |
| 11:02:54 | Linus | oh |
| 11:03:39 | Bagder | so, let's keep the auto-build of them and remove the download link until we've made them actually work |
| 11:03:42 | edx | LOL |
| 11:03:52 | edx | keys dont work in the simulator... *oops* |
| 11:03:59 | Bagder | oh |
| 11:04:07 | Bagder | me break keys ;-) |
| 11:04:08 | edx | i tree.c - what function is called to get the keys there |
| 11:04:39 | Linus | button_get_w_tmo() |
| 11:04:43 | edx | aha |
| 11:04:44 | Bagder | edx: I pretended to be a win32 hacker the other day, I guess I failed |
| 11:05:01 | edx | haha ;-) |
| 11:05:34 | edx | you get a win32 hacker as slowly as you get a Linux hacker :] |
| 11:07:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 4 channel CTCP requests in 4 minutes and 9 seconds at the last flood |
| 11:07:22 | * | edx uses his good old debugger :) |
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| 11:14:28 | * | edx found the mistake (i guess..) |
| 11:15:04 | edx | what is supposed to be returned bybutton_get if no button has been pressed? |
| 11:15:17 | Bagder | 0 I guess |
| 11:15:18 | edx | 0? |
| 11:15:20 | edx | lol |
| 11:15:26 | edx | because the variable is never initialized |
| 11:15:31 | Bagder | ah |
| 11:15:32 | edx | works |
| 11:15:43 | edx | Bagder: you did it! :) |
| 11:16:00 | Bagder | yay |
| 11:16:04 | Bagder | I know I did |
| 11:16:13 | Bagder | because before my fix it didn't even build |
| 11:16:29 | edx | lol yea |
| 11:16:34 | edx | i was about to add the function |
| 11:16:37 | edx | but you had already |
| 11:16:41 | edx | so i just took yours |
| 11:17:30 | * | edx waits for the next builds of his site to check |
| 11:17:59 | edx | whe i get back too school again and got some more time i also have to do some fixes with tetris ;) |
| 11:20:18 | | Nick Zagor|breakfast is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 11:20:27 | Zagor | win32 builds unlinked |
| 11:21:06 | Zagor | Linus: did you try the play-last-byte trick? |
| 11:21:26 | Linus | no |
| 11:21:58 | Linus | we still have to fix the peek_next_track() issues |
| 11:22:06 | Linus | it is destructive |
| 11:24:27 | Zagor | how do you mean destructive? |
| 11:24:54 | Linus | it updates playlist.index |
| 11:25:47 | Zagor | of course. who uses that? |
| 11:26:11 | dwihno | btw, are you 100% sure mpeg_current_track() is error-free? |
| 11:26:28 | Linus | Zagor: playlist_next() uses it |
| 11:26:42 | Zagor | dwihno: that function is pretty safe, but the data could be wrong at times |
| 11:26:54 | Linus | the index advances for each track that the mpeg thread loads |
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| 11:27:12 | Zagor | Linus: yes, by design. how is that bad? |
| 11:27:41 | Zagor | we don't call playlist_next() on in-ram next-track |
| 11:27:42 | Linus | no, peek_next_track() was no supposed to advance the index |
| 11:27:57 | Linus | hence the name peek_... |
| 11:27:59 | dwihno | Zagor: yeah, the parse display of the wps drops data because of id3->path (I only see the length decreasing the two first times entering and exiting the wps) |
| 11:28:43 | Zagor | Linus: right, but you still haven't told me why this is a problem today |
| 11:28:47 | Linus | Zagor: next_track is not the problem, prev_track is |
| 11:29:05 | Linus | let's say that the mpeg thread loads 4 tracks |
| 11:29:08 | Zagor | new_file needs to use an integer instead of boolean |
| 11:29:08 | dwihno | Zagor: thus, the ".mp3" removal gets screwed removing everything past the last '.' |
| 11:29:19 | Zagor | we go back the number of tracks we have in ram |
| 11:29:23 | Linus | and then the user presses the PREV key |
| 11:30:09 | Zagor | or even just the next call does that trick |
| 11:30:18 | Zagor | keeping new_file() unchanged |
| 11:30:43 | Zagor | can you put up some of those short tracks of your for download somewhere? |
| 11:32:00 | Linus | sure |
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| 11:34:55 | Linus | http://linus.haxx.se/farbrorfrej.tar.gz |
| 11:35:44 | Zagor | thanks |
| 11:35:46 | dwihno | :D |
| 11:35:49 | dwihno | haha |
| 11:36:03 | * | dwihno gotta get those |
| 11:36:37 | Bagder | w4r3z d00dz |
| 11:36:42 | Linus | :-) |
| 11:37:25 | dwihno | Farbror Frej is RULEMAN #1! :D |
| 11:40:06 | dwihno | :D |
| 11:40:12 | dwihno | Hej alla barn nu blir det barnprogram! :) |
| 11:40:34 | Linus | Zagor: the design idea was that peek_next_track() did NOT update the playlist index |
| 11:40:41 | dwihno | ANSIKTSMASK :D |
| 11:40:44 | dwihno | *roflmao* |
| 11:40:52 | Linus | and a separate next_track() function did that |
| 11:41:09 | Linus | that is why peek_next_track() was invented |
| 11:41:14 | Bagder | Linus is right |
| 11:41:41 | Zagor | yes, but now we don't have that any more. and I don't think playlist.c should need to know about how many files mpeg.c have cached or not |
| 11:42:07 | Zagor | it's cleaner if we can make do with just playlist_next(), imho |
| 11:42:10 | Bagder | Zagor: no, mpeg should pass an index |
| 11:42:26 | Bagder | just next? |
| 11:42:42 | Bagder | hm, well it could work |
| 11:42:47 | Zagor | playlist_next() handles both positive and negative "next" :-) |
| 11:43:13 | Bagder | so how would it be called? |
| 11:44:03 | Zagor | playlist_next( -num_tracks_in_memory() ) |
| 11:44:43 | Linus | i like that |
| 11:45:24 | Bagder | and it returns the file name of that index and set the index there? |
| 11:45:30 | Zagor | yes |
| 11:45:39 | Zagor | it already does that. we only need to fix mpeg.c |
| 11:45:47 | Bagder | ok |
| 11:45:56 | Linus | and it should go to the current song if pressed after x seconds have been played of it |
| 11:46:24 | Bagder | that doesn't involve the playlist then |
| 11:46:27 | Zagor | Linus: that should be handled by mpeg.c, not playlist |
| 11:46:43 | Linus | yes |
| 11:46:43 | Bagder | the wps code should check the time |
| 11:47:04 | Linus | mpeg_restart_current_track() |
| 11:47:15 | Linus | instead of mpeg_prev() |
| 11:47:27 | Bagder | sounds fine |
| 11:47:33 | Linus | the x second logic shouldn't be in mpeg.c |
| 11:47:41 | Zagor | agreed |
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| 11:47:55 | Linus | hurry! 1.2 is close |
| 11:47:58 | | Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 11:48:04 | Linus | welcome back |
| 11:48:05 | Bagder | the x second logic is wps |
| 11:48:12 | Zagor | yes, and it's post-1.2 |
| 11:48:19 | Linus | oh |
| 11:48:20 | Bagder | I hate it when I auto-timout my ssh shell ;-) |
| 11:48:32 | Linus | 999999 seconds passed? |
| 11:48:41 | Bagder | more like 600 or something |
| 11:48:44 | Zagor | the next_track fix is a bug, so I want that for 1.2 |
| 11:48:52 | Linus | Zagor: agreed |
| 11:49:39 | Linus | Bagder: are you familiar with the relative path handling in playlist_next() |
| 11:49:43 | Linus | it bugs |
| 11:49:58 | Bagder | not really, I just applied the patch we received |
| 11:50:21 | Bagder | I don't use relative paths |
| 11:50:31 | Linus | dir-play does that |
| 11:52:32 | Bagder | I don't use dir-play either ;-) |
| 11:52:39 | Linus | i know |
| 11:53:04 | Bagder | so how does it bug? |
| 11:53:49 | Linus | it puts two slashes between the current dir and the filename |
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| 11:54:20 | Bagder | shouldn't the fs code work with that, I mean preferably |
| 11:54:33 | Bagder | normal unix code does |
| 11:54:35 | Zagor | i thought it did |
| 11:54:38 | Linus | Bagder: you mean handle it? |
| 11:54:42 | Bagder | yes |
| 11:54:47 | Linus | it does |
| 11:54:51 | Bagder | so? |
| 11:55:00 | Linus | the filename scroll in wps is ugly |
| 11:55:04 | Bagder | ah |
| 11:57:44 | Linus | i'm on the case |
| 11:57:56 | Bagder | ok |
| 11:59:50 | matsl | curius - whats ugly with the filename scroll? |
| 11:59:58 | Linus | it puts two slashes between the current dir and the filename |
| 12:00 |
| 12:00:06 | matsl | ok |
| 12:00:08 | Bagder | when doing all-dir play |
| 12:05:27 | Zagor | now next works with Farbror Frej :-) |
| 12:05:43 | Zagor | prev still bugs |
| 12:05:45 | dwihno | :-D |
| 12:06:35 | Linus | Zagor: no, in-ram stunts on prev, please! :-) |
| 12:06:49 | dwihno | Hå hej med Farbror Frej! Hej alla barn nu är det barnprogram. Titta nu här vad Farbror Frej tar fram. En liten klubba och nu ska ni höra, vad man med sådana klubbor kan göra. Slå den i huvet och dunkeli-dur, så har vi gjort oss en skallfraktur! :) |
| 12:06:51 | Zagor | no, not yet :-) |
| 12:07:52 | Zagor | Linus: num_tracks_in_memory doesn't decrease when playing 2nd, 3rd track etc. is this intentional? this is why my prev doesn't work |
| 12:08:29 | Linus | doesn't it? |
| 12:08:49 | Linus | it should, when it receives the TRACK_CHANGE event |
| 12:08:58 | Zagor | ok. checking. |
| 12:09:14 | matsl | bagder:? |
| 12:53:04 | notch | Zagor: Have you still got the really old IRC logs (december 2001?) |
| 12:53:13 | notch | can U give me a URL? |
| 12:53:20 | Zagor | no, I don't |
| 12:54:04 | Bagder | we didn't #rockbox back then |
| 12:54:05 | Zagor | now, finally, the irc log copy script works |
| 12:55:22 | notch | I remeber you having a few logs on the website around this time bit they seem to have been removes |
| 12:55:30 | notch | removed |
| 12:56:05 | Bagder | I think you remember it wrong |
| 12:56:09 | notch | Oh, it's the mailing list I'm thinking of! |
| 12:56:22 | Bagder | yes |
| 12:56:27 | Bagder | sounds reasonable |
| 12:56:27 | notch | cheers |
| 12:56:30 | Bagder | it started back then |
| 12:58:06 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 12:59:08 | Linus | Zagor: did you find the track change bug? |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:22 | Bagder | bug 581987 "Playlist" could be closed now, right? |
| 13:00:39 | Linus | could we ever reproduce it? |
| 13:01:19 | Bagder | I doubt it |
| 13:01:20 | Zagor | Linus: which one do you mean? |
| 13:01:34 | Linus | num_tracks_in_memory() |
| 13:02:11 | Zagor | ah, no not yet. still working on forward. it still bugs sometimes. claims "no more mp3 data" with 7 fresh tracks loaded... |
| 13:02:33 | Linus | Zagor: exactly what i saw |
| 13:03:08 | * | Bagder would like the battery blinking when the level is very low |
| 13:12:29 | Zagor | (gdb) p last_dma_chunk_size |
| 13:12:30 | Zagor | $1 = -247312 |
| 13:12:31 | Zagor | umm? |
| 13:13:06 | Zagor | on "No more mp3 data" |
| 13:13:16 | datazone | sweet the archos multimedia should be out in 4 days |
| 13:14:32 | mbr | Bagder: When should it blink? BATTERY_LEVEL_DANGEROUS? |
| 13:15:04 | Bagder | sounds suitable |
| 13:15:23 | matsl | bagder:? |
| 13:15:32 | Bagder | matsl: ? |
| 13:16:04 | matsl | Bagder: Remember my scroll patch with a seperator string instead of blanks? |
| 13:16:25 | Bagder | now that you mention it, yes |
| 13:16:45 | matsl | Was it considerd a bad idea? |
| 13:17:09 | mbr | Bagder: I added it to my todo for post 1.2 era :) |
| 13:17:19 | Bagder | mbr: goodie |
| 13:17:44 | Zagor | matsl: I think it just fell off the track. we'll test it post-1.2 |
| 13:18:11 | Bagder | matsl: if you can re-sync it with cvs and re-post it to the list, it would help us |
| 13:18:12 | matsl | Bagder: OK. So I don't need to resend it to the list then ;-) |
| 13:19:48 | mbr | is it possible, that lcd_invertrect does not invert? Does the same as lcd_fillrect (beside clearing) |
| 13:21:02 | Bagder | mbr: I think you're right |
| 13:22:23 | Zagor | Linus: you here? I got this debug output: |
| 13:22:37 | Zagor | S R:5C60E W:1FFFE SW:1FFFE |
| 13:22:37 | Zagor | No more MP3 data. Stopping. L:0 R:1FFFE W:1FFFE |
| 13:22:52 | Zagor | (the last ones are last_dma_chunk_size, buf_read, buf_write) |
| 13:23:08 | Zagor | is last_dma_chunk_size ever legally 0? |
| 13:23:23 | Linus | it shouldn't |
| 13:24:11 | Linus | i guess unplayed_space_left goes negative |
| 13:25:29 | Zagor | where? it's (of course) 0 when it stops |
| 13:25:39 | Linus | no, before that |
| 13:26:39 | Linus | i see the bug |
| 13:26:47 | Zagor | tell me |
| 13:26:49 | Linus | look at init_dma() |
| 13:27:00 | Linus | last_dma_chunk_size = MIN(65536, mp3buf_write - mp3buf_read); |
| 13:27:02 | Zagor | ahh |
| 13:27:17 | Linus | negative chunk size |
| 13:27:32 | Linus | init_dma() only works on empty buffers |
| 13:27:53 | Zagor | at least that line. i can reassign chunk_size after calling init_dma. |
| 13:28:04 | Linus | or compensate |
| 13:28:17 | Zagor | suggestion? |
| 13:29:16 | Zagor | i think init_dma should have a proper unplayed_space_left calculation, like in DEI3 |
| 13:29:23 | Linus | make the same adjustments as in DEI3 |
| 13:29:47 | Linus | maybe even make it a common function |
| 13:30:02 | Zagor | yes |
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| 13:30:32 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Linus|lunch |
| 13:36:32 | Zagor | ok, next works good now. |
| 13:36:39 | Zagor | prev still bugs |
| 13:38:22 | matsl | bagder: ? |
| 13:38:31 | Bagder | yes? |
| 13:38:48 | matsl | Bagder: Remember my m3u-only patch? |
| 13:38:58 | Bagder | yes |
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| 13:39:19 | matsl | Bagder: Want it again or considered bad ide? |
| 13:39:22 | matsl | idea? |
| 13:39:38 | Bagder | well, I can't say many people have cried for it to get applied |
| 13:39:44 | Bagder | :-) |
| 13:39:49 | Zagor | matsl: filter out mp3 files too? |
| 13:40:05 | matsl | They don't knwo how good it is ;-) |
| 13:40:07 | Bagder | personally, I don't think it is a very good idea |
| 13:40:27 | Bagder | I'd just move the m3u-files to a separate dir |
| 13:40:33 | matsl | OK. Many things have changed so I'll submit it again. |
| 13:41:09 | matsl | OOPS! I though you said it was a good ide. Sorry! |
| 13:41:12 | Bagder | make it extend the mp3/m3u filter then |
| 13:41:37 | Zagor | yes. the filter is probably going to be expanded to an option instead of a boolean |
| 13:41:43 | matsl | It does. (off, on, m3u) |
| 13:41:50 | Bagder | ah, ok |
| 13:42:36 | matsl | Besides I have all my m3u alreay in one directory. Root ;-) |
| 13:43:10 | Bagder | haha, so why the need for the filter? |
| 13:43:25 | matsl | I don't wnat to see the dirs! |
| 13:43:44 | Bagder | so it scans recursively for all m3us? |
| 13:44:04 | Bagder | or how do you change dir? |
| 13:44:28 | Bagder | hiding the dirs is a bit weird in my mind |
| 13:44:58 | matsl | Not if you have all m3us in one dir as you suggested. |
| 13:45:08 | Bagder | right, then you must have them in root |
| 13:45:12 | Bagder | as you can't change dir |
| 13:45:15 | Zagor | matsl: wouldn't it be good enough to change sort order, to show dirs last? |
| 13:45:44 | matsl | Maybe that would be almost the same. Yes. |
| 13:46:01 | Bagder | mbr: I broke the revertrect() a long time ago when I made the bitmap use OR instead of XOR |
| 13:48:13 | matsl | Bagder: To change dir in m3u-only mode you need to go out of that mode. |
| 13:48:15 | Bagder | "bounce" didn't work with XOR ;-) |
| 13:48:15 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 13:48:15 | * | Zagor wonders if his 802.11 link covers the cafe on the ground floor... |
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| 13:48:42 | Bagder | matsl: sure, but a pretty annoying manouver |
| 13:49:05 | mbr | Bagder: OK. on todo .... |
| 13:49:09 | Bagder | and not really something someone with m3us spread all over would use |
| 13:49:17 | matsl | Bagder: Agreed. |
| 13:49:17 | Zagor | i suggest the sort fix rather than filter fix, if that's almost as good |
| 13:49:22 | Bagder | then again, I don't know if people have |
| 13:50:01 | matsl | As I have the filter fix patch at hand I post it. Then people can look at it again. |
| 13:50:20 | Bagder | sure, posting a patch never hurts |
| 13:54:21 | Bagder | I want multi-line scroll support |
| 13:54:42 | Bagder | not sure if they all would scroll independently of each other tough |
| 13:55:14 | matsl | bagder: I experimented with two scroll speeds. |
| 13:55:42 | matsl | Both lines scrolling at the same speed was confusing. |
| 13:56:07 | Bagder | I see |
| 13:56:14 | matsl | YMMW |
| 13:56:19 | Bagder | then imagine 4 lines on the recorder ;-) |
| 13:57:16 | matsl | I have been thinking of another type of scroll. One word at a time. |
| 13:57:40 | Bagder | ah |
| 13:57:44 | Bagder | seen my attempt? |
| 13:57:51 | matsl | NO |
| 13:57:59 | Bagder | apps/showtext.c |
| 13:58:07 | Bagder | meant to become a text-reader for the player |
| 13:58:36 | Bagder | doesn't work 100% |
| 13:58:49 | Bagder | but it shows one word at a time |
| 13:58:57 | Bagder | or more words, if they fit within 11 letters |
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| 13:59:17 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Linus |
| 13:59:48 | matsl | OK. Like some radio stations send out to the display? Seen that? |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:01 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:00:35 | Bagder | it looks similar to that |
| 14:00:54 | matsl | I've been thinking in terms of changeing the wps screen to show id3-info once in a while in that maner. |
| 14:01:18 | Zagor | ahh, finally prev works too |
| 14:01:34 | Bagder | matsl: might work, yes |
| 14:01:52 | Zagor | i'm getting brain damage from those test tracks... |
| 14:02:02 | Linus | :-) |
| 14:02:06 | Bagder | even worse than before? B-] |
| 14:03:07 | matsl | bagder: It is hard to do with current scroll implementatiuon. The scroll needs to work better ... |
| 14:03:23 | matsl | together with the other display stuff. |
| 14:03:26 | Bagder | so don't use it, make a separate impl in the wps |
| 14:03:58 | Linus | Bagder: that's a veru good idea |
| 14:04:10 | matsl | Hmm... OK. Never occured to me. I was more thinking of adding showtext-like funtionality to the scroll-thread. |
| 14:04:27 | matsl | Like text-properties or something. |
| 14:04:56 | Bagder | well, if more than one screen needs it, then that is certainly better |
| 14:05:15 | Linus | actually, the scroll thread could be ravemped to a scroll_line() function |
| 14:05:37 | Bagder | that would do what? |
| 14:05:48 | Linus | i don't like that the scroll thread updates the LCD independent of other activities |
| 14:05:59 | Linus | Bagder: thread vs. function |
| 14:06:02 | Bagder | aha |
| 14:06:20 | Linus | get_button_w_tmo() and scroll in the default case |
| 14:06:32 | Linus | much nicer |
| 14:06:32 | Bagder | I am +1 on that |
| 14:06:49 | Linus | the you can scroll several lines if you want |
| 14:07:22 | matsl | I got problems with two scrolling lines too since the menu display stuff needed to know about it too. It got messy. |
| 14:09:15 | Zagor | i don't. i think get_button_w_tmo() is unfortunate |
| 14:09:35 | Zagor | using that removes adjustable scroll speed, for one |
| 14:09:52 | Bagder | true |
| 14:10:12 | Zagor | I think the status bar should go into a thread too, removing the timeouts in wps and tree |
| 14:11:20 | Linus | Zagor: only if we get a lcd_update_rect() |
| 14:11:26 | Zagor | i want all threads hanging on queue_wait() when nothing is running |
| 14:11:37 | Bagder | update_rect() is a piece of cake to add |
| 14:11:42 | Zagor | Linus: sure, but let's fix that then (after 1.2, of course) |
| 14:12:07 | Bagder | especially if we make it update_row() |
| 14:12:16 | Zagor | row? |
| 14:12:24 | Bagder | 8 pixels hight, full line |
| 14:12:26 | Zagor | ah, right |
| 14:12:27 | Bagder | height |
| 14:12:35 | Linus | we will need a timer_event() functionality if we want all threads to hang in queue_wait() |
| 14:13:05 | Linus | by the way can we print text on an arbitrary pixel location? |
| 14:13:06 | Zagor | Linus: yes, i know. we're not there yet. it's just a vision |
| 14:13:25 | Zagor | yes we can. see Bounce |
| 14:14:07 | Linus | ah, lcd_putsxy() |
| 14:14:07 | Bagder | I want smooth scroll in 1.3 :-) |
| 14:14:18 | Zagor | hehe |
| 14:14:19 | Linus | I want it in 1.2.1 |
| 14:14:29 | Bagder | it is really easily added actually |
| 14:14:39 | Bagder | I want the new font code in first though |
| 14:14:42 | Zagor | i'll work on the font issues after the release |
| 14:14:48 | Linus | great |
| 14:14:50 | Bagder | goodie |
| 14:14:59 | matsl | kumjum |
| 14:15:02 | Linus | and the file system write |
| 14:15:05 | Zagor | i hate the fixed-width font |
| 14:15:09 | Bagder | me too |
| 14:15:11 | Zagor | Linus: yes, that's #2 |
| 14:15:14 | matsl | oops! should be jumjum |
| 14:15:38 | Bagder | Zagor: I suggest you go with Alex's patch to start with, and then use Greg's code to generate nice internal defaults |
| 14:16:14 | Zagor | sounds goo |
| 14:16:14 | Zagor | d |
| 14:16:16 | Bagder | and of course remove some memcpy()s from the code ;-) |
| 14:16:17 | | Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 14:16:19 | MeRWiN | yo |
| 14:16:22 | Bagder | hey MeRWiN |
| 14:16:23 | Linus | yo |
| 14:16:37 | MeRWiN | This is the very first time i've ever been to work 3 hours early :) Usually i'm a good hour late |
| 14:16:47 | Zagor | haha |
| 14:17:01 | Bagder | aha, 3 hours for rockbox-hacking! |
| 14:17:07 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 14:17:07 | * | Bagder grins |
| 14:17:13 | MeRWiN | Bagder: heh, yeah... my boss doesn't get in for another 3 hours |
| 14:17:45 | MeRWiN | hmm... is there any way to configure the CVS client for a SOCKS5 firewall? I can't do any cvs activity through this damn firewall at work |
| 14:18:02 | matsl | Wps question! I'd like next song not to start playing while song is stoped or paused. Keeping the mode moving back and forth. Seems logical. Comments? |
| 14:18:14 | Zagor | MeRWiN: you can run ssh through a http proxy |
| 14:18:18 | Bagder | MeRWiN: well, can you get a ssh connection through it? |
| 14:18:29 | Zagor | so I guess there are ways to get it through a socks5 proxy too |
| 14:18:35 | MeRWiN | Bagder: yeah... i've got ssh |
| 14:18:57 | MeRWiN | matsl: how can the next song start playing when it's stopped or paused? |
| 14:19:19 | MeRWiN | matsl: oh, if it's paused when you switch tracks |
| 14:19:32 | MeRWiN | matsl: that's a good feature... one for the list of post-1.2 |
| 14:19:38 | Bagder | MeRWiN: so we add you as the sourceforge project member, then you can checkout over ssh |
| 14:19:43 | Bagder | as a |
| 14:20:39 | MeRWiN | I think I even have a sourceforge account, from some Serial LCD/MP3 Player that I was making a while back :) |
| 14:21:20 | Linus | Zagor: how's the next/prev going? |
| 14:22:14 | grummel | I'd like to Fast Froward and REwind |
| 14:22:25 | MeRWiN | grummel: wouldn't we all |
| 14:22:26 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 14:22:31 | Linus | grummel: in time, in time |
| 14:22:38 | MeRWiN | http://www.terapintech.com/fea_mine.html <−−−− Now this is what Archos should be developing |
| 14:22:41 | Zagor | Linus: committed |
| 14:22:43 | Linus | it is pretty tricky to implement |
| 14:22:59 | Zagor | although now I seem to have woken up the old "play one track, get next" bug :( |
| 14:23:07 | * | Zagor runs for coffee |
| 14:23:10 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|coffee (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 14:23:11 | Linus | Zagor|coffee: i sent a subscribe to the announce list |
| 14:24:00 | matsl | Linus? |
| 14:24:02 | Linus | Zagor|coffee: you may want to resynch your CVS |
| 14:24:12 | Linus | matsl: yes? |
| 14:24:46 | matsl | Linus: Any problems with not starting to play song when doing next_song while paused or stopped? |
| 14:24:55 | MeRWiN | I think the sourceforge description needs to be updated to include the Jukebox Stuido as well :) |
| 14:25:45 | MeRWiN | matsl/Linus: Couldn't we just have it mpeg_pause() after mpeg_play() if it's paused and the next/previous track button is pressed? |
| 14:26:24 | Linus | it depends on how Zagors new fix works |
| 14:26:26 | Bagder | MeRWiN: new description there |
| 14:26:43 | Linus | we can just refrain from starting the DMA |
| 14:26:45 | MeRWiN | Bagder: 'scuse me? |
| 14:26:53 | Bagder | on the sourceforge page |
| 14:27:06 | Bagder | I edited to include studio |
| 14:27:15 | Bagder | edited it even |
| 14:27:40 | MeRWiN | Bagder: Interesting... "The Rockbox project aims to write open source firmware for the Archos Jukebox 6000 and Archos Jukebox Recorder MP3 players" |
| 14:27:45 | MeRWiN | maybe it takes a bit to update |
| 14:27:53 | Bagder | reload |
| 14:28:02 | MeRWiN | i did |
| 14:28:08 | Linus | i see the new page |
| 14:28:57 | MeRWiN | I can't seem to see it |
| 14:28:57 | MeRWiN | grr |
| 14:29:59 | * | dwihno is acting phone support :( |
| 14:30:08 | edx | lol |
| 14:30:12 | Linus | phony support |
| 14:30:30 | Bagder | pony support! |
| 14:30:46 | grummel | what archos unit have YOU got?! I've got the AJBP 6000 |
| 14:30:55 | Linus | Rec20 |
| 14:30:58 | Bagder | rec20 |
| 14:31:02 | MeRWiN | player20 |
| 14:31:10 | edx | rec20 |
| 14:31:10 | Linus | and AJBP6k |
| 14:32:17 | grummel | HAve u updated your units in any way?! |
| 14:32:25 | Linus | new hard disk in both |
| 14:32:33 | dwihno | Poor me :( |
| 14:32:38 | Linus | serial port on Line-In |
| 14:32:41 | Bagder | I run rockbox ;-) |
| 14:32:46 | Linus | of course |
| 14:32:51 | grummel | =) |
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| 14:36:49 | MeRWiN | where is identity.pub located? |
| 14:37:03 | Bagder | ~/.ssh |
| 14:37:14 | | Nick liam__ is now known as jedix` (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) |
| 14:37:15 | notch | We have remote control funcionality ! :-) |
| 14:37:15 | MeRWiN | what if it's identity.pub isn't there? |
| 14:37:24 | notch | Will post a diff soon... |
| 14:37:33 | Bagder | MeRWiN: then you need to create one |
| 14:37:39 | MeRWiN | what do i put in it |
| 14:37:44 | grummel | is it possible to store codecs for WMA for example so that u can play it?! |
| 14:37:48 | Linus | notch: c00l! |
| 14:37:53 | Bagder | MeRWiN: ssh-keygen |
| 14:37:54 | grummel | in the archos.mod |
| 14:37:54 | MeRWiN | grummel: not until we get a DSP expert |
| 14:38:18 | notch | took me a while! |
| 14:38:26 | MeRWiN | Bagder: what options do i use? |
| 14:38:26 | Bagder | notch: nice work! |
| 14:38:30 | grummel | my bacjklight seem to have a loose connection! |
| 14:39:02 | Bagder | MeRWiN: it depends... what version of ssh are you running? |
| 14:39:13 | MeRWiN | newest cygwin.. *shrug* just installed it |
| 14:39:20 | dwihno | Damn user! |
| 14:39:23 | dwihno | What should I say? |
| 14:39:32 | MeRWiN | dwihno: tell them to go to hell... go to hell and die :) |
| 14:39:34 | dwihno | "Pay me and I'll fix it for you, but I won't give you no telephone support!" |
| 14:39:41 | dwihno | :-D |
| 14:40:06 | Bagder | MeRWiN: ok, use "-t dsa" and then run again with "-t rsa" |
| 14:40:24 | Bagder | MeRWiN: it generates keys to use for SSH v2 |
| 14:40:53 | Bagder | (v2 as in the protocol version 2) |
| 14:41:28 | MeRWiN | Bagder: now which one of those do I add into sourceforge? both? |
| 14:42:07 | Bagder | MeRWiN: you can put both .pub files there, yes |
| 14:42:41 | Bagder | any or both |
| 14:44:08 | MeRWiN | OK, hopefully it worked :) I'm not much of a ssh/cvs guru. Very new to CVS indeed, but getting the hang of it |
| 14:44:45 | Bagder | you'll learn |
| 14:45:24 | MeRWiN | eSVNC is a godsend... definately. True realtime VNC :) |
| 14:46:11 | dwihno | MeRWiN: erps? |
| 14:46:17 | Linus | Very Nice Colors? |
| 14:46:26 | MeRWiN | dwihno: erps? |
| 14:46:28 | Bagder | hehe |
| 14:46:36 | Linus | Virtual Nintendo Console? |
| 14:46:55 | dwihno | Velour Night Cap |
| 14:47:02 | MeRWiN | Linus: full folor immediate full screen updates. Virtual Network Computing −−- Like PCAnywhere but free |
| 14:47:13 | dwihno | MeRWiN: how is it compared to vnc, and tightvnc? |
| 14:47:21 | Bagder | vnc is cool |
| 14:47:40 | MeRWiN | dwihno: it's basically tightvnc with immediate updates.. Over a LAN it's like you're sitting right in front of the computer |
| 14:47:46 | MeRWiN | dwihno: win32 only though |
| 14:48:09 | dwihno | MeRWiN: ah, okay... do you have URL? |
| 14:48:41 | MeRWiN | dwihno: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/samfd/esvnc/ |
| 14:48:56 | dwihno | gotta check it out :) |
| 14:49:10 | dwihno | I thought vnc was cool, but a bit sluggish, even on 100 mbit interfaces. |
| 14:49:26 | Bagder | of course true X rocks ;-) |
| 14:49:29 | MeRWiN | dwihno: yeah, it didn't have good change detection... this is frickin' immediate with no cpu usage |
| 14:49:47 | MeRWiN | Bagder: I would use X if my company supported *nix ... stupid telecom companies :) |
| 14:49:54 | Bagder | :-) |
| 14:50:16 | dwihno | :-) |
| 14:50:35 | MeRWiN | dwihno: where do you work? |
| 14:50:36 | dwihno | Bagder: what window manager do you use? |
| 14:50:47 | Bagder | swordfish |
| 14:50:49 | dwihno | MeRWiN: I don't - I'm full-time unemployed :-) |
| 14:51:01 | dwihno | it's neato |
| 14:51:06 | Linus | dwihno: when are you coming to Stockholm? |
| 14:51:12 | dwihno | Linus: I'm already here :-) |
| 14:51:13 | Bagder | oh, sawfish I mean |
| 14:51:16 | dwihno | MOHAHAHAHA |
| 14:51:33 | MeRWiN | why was peek_next_track removed? |
| 14:51:38 | Linus | time for a DevCon then! |
| 14:51:46 | dwihno | :D |
| 14:51:49 | Linus | MeRWiN: it was obsolete |
| 14:51:51 | Bagder | devcon 2002, part 2 |
| 14:51:57 | dwihno | DevCon! DevCon! DevCon! DevCon! DevCon! DevCon! |
| 14:51:59 | Linus | 1.2 release party!!!! |
| 14:52:05 | Bagder | hehe |
| 14:52:07 | Bagder | woooo |
| 14:52:09 | Linus | installfest! |
| 14:52:11 | dwihno | That is a bit overambitious ;) |
| 14:52:13 | MeRWiN | Linus: oh, since everything is playlist driven now |
| 14:52:22 | Linus | yup |
| 14:52:30 | dwihno | Linus: We can bring a laptop and install rockbox and sign the rockbox t-shirts at stureplan ;) |
| 14:52:39 | Linus | good idea! |
| 14:52:42 | dwihno | FREE ROCKBOX COPIES! :D |
| 14:52:53 | Bagder | bring your own floppy :-) |
| 14:52:57 | MeRWiN | dwihno: BYOF |
| 14:53:18 | MeRWiN | You should offer free rockbox installation service also |
| 14:53:23 | dwihno | Yeah |
| 14:53:37 | dwihno | Or, we could sell floppies with the ajz and source code for 5 SEK a piece |
| 14:53:56 | Bagder | we |
| 14:53:57 | Linus | and a (inkjet) printed manual |
| 14:54:02 | Bagder | 'll sell *MILLIONS* |
| 14:54:06 | dwihno | :-) |
| 14:54:11 | dwihno | You're gonna get RICH, Bagder :) |
| 14:54:11 | MeRWiN | dwihno: how much does 5 SEK work out to in USD? |
| 14:54:16 | dwihno | MeRWiN: $0,5 |
| 14:54:17 | Linus | 50cents |
| 14:54:20 | MeRWiN | haha |
| 14:54:27 | dwihno | :-) |
| 14:54:29 | dwihno | A fortune! :D |
| 14:54:38 | dwihno | So Bagder is gonna get wealthy |
| 14:54:42 | MeRWiN | bah, sell them on CD then |
| 14:54:48 | dwihno | You just read my mind :) |
| 14:54:55 | dwihno | Most ppl won't even have floppy drives anymore ;) |
| 14:55:10 | MeRWiN | the most wasted space on a CD ever :) 649.95 MB avaialble of a 650MB disc |
| 14:55:18 | Bagder | we sell it on 5.25" floppys only |
| 14:55:22 | dwihno | hahaha |
| 14:55:44 | dwihno | "and to use the floppy, you must buy this EXPENSIVE 5.25" floppy drive" :-) |
| 14:56:02 | MeRWiN | dwihno: now that's thinkin' like Microsoft :) |
| 14:56:37 | dwihno | Thank you, thank you! :) |
| 14:56:44 | notch | Ive added a couple of files to the firmware, but when i do a cvs diff these files are not listed as added... Is there a way to add them to my 'local' repositry? |
| 14:56:50 | Linus | you pay $5 for the CD, and $50 for the Activation Code |
| 14:56:58 | MeRWiN | Linus: *grin* |
| 14:57:04 | Bagder | notch: only by doing 'cvs add [file]' |
| 14:57:09 | Linus | notch: don't! |
| 14:57:28 | Linus | not until the 1.2 release is done |
| 14:57:37 | MeRWiN | hmm... i usually join #linuxhelp as a keepalive for IRC (during the slow times in #rockbox) but this time i joined #linushelp |
| 14:57:49 | Linus | :-) |
| 14:57:55 | Bagder | notch: and if you've checked out anonymous, you can't add them even to your local dir |
| 14:57:57 | dwihno | MeRWiN: did you get any help with the linus? :) |
| 14:58:09 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 14:58:16 | Bagder | we could use some help with Linus |
| 14:58:24 | Bagder | he gets a bit too much at times B) |
| 14:58:27 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 14:58:35 | * | Linus is offended |
| 14:58:38 | * | Bagder ducks and hides |
| 14:58:56 | * | Linus knows where Bagder lives |
| 14:58:57 | * | dwihno scratches his head and sighs |
| 14:59:08 | * | dwihno knows who lives in Haninge ;) |
| 14:59:17 | dwihno | or who was it now... ;-) |
| 14:59:35 | Linus | Brandbergen |
| 14:59:35 | notch | so if I wanted to post these diffs to the list then I would attach them as well as sending a diff? |
| 14:59:43 | notch | the files +diff |
| 14:59:46 | Linus | just the diff |
| 14:59:52 | dwihno | Linus: firemountains is a part of it :-) I used to live there myself |
| 15:00 |
| 15:00:00 | Linus | oh , and the new files, sorry |
| 15:00:15 | Linus | oh |
| 15:00:18 | notch | but the diff doesnt include my files as additons as I havent checked them in |
| 15:00:32 | Linus | yeah, sorry. include the new files too |
| 15:00:38 | notch | cheers :-)) |
| 15:00:47 | MeRWiN | This is great... I work for the largest Wireless company in the world and they feel it neccessary to say the following comment... to prove a point, one of the managers went to everyone's desk and stole all of the laptops that were left there overnight. This is the E-Mail that was sent out: |
| 15:00:47 | MeRWiN | Eight laptops were left unsecured in cubicles on the 6th floor of Newport 5 last night. If your missing your laptop, check with Kelly Digregorio. |
| 15:00:47 | MeRWiN | Employees who need a laptop to perform their duties should keep the laptops with them at all times. If you have a laptop and don't actually need one, please turn it in to your manager asap. Any laptops found in cubicles or anywhere else during off-hours will be removed. |
| 15:00:49 | MeRWiN | This is serious stuff!! Both our company hardware and data assets must be protected at all times. Everyone is expected to do their part. If you see a laptop or any other company assets at risk, act to protect them. |
| 15:01:01 | MeRWiN | Great office politics, huh? |
| 15:01:23 | Bagder | hehe |
| 15:01:37 | Linus | actually, it's the same here |
| 15:01:47 | MeRWiN | *shrug* someone must thing there's a high rate of office-theft in a building where you need a keycard to get in the frickin' elevator :) |
| 15:02:02 | Linus | all employees with laotops have to take them home over night |
| 15:02:12 | notch | Man! starts with a ends with l and has na in the middle!! |
| 15:02:34 | dwihno | office theft? |
| 15:02:37 | Linus | we also have keycards |
| 15:02:38 | dwihno | More than just pencils? |
| 15:03:07 | MeRWiN | Linus: they screwed up my keycard so I had to wait outside this morning for like 10 minutes because my after-hours access disappeared :) |
| 15:03:26 | Bagder | watch this => http://www.mcafeeb2b.com/beta/utility.asp |
| 15:03:34 | Bagder | see a tool you recognize? |
| 15:03:40 | Bagder | read the NDA at the side ;-) |
| 15:03:57 | Bagder | silly |
| 15:04:20 | dwihno | whoa |
| 15:04:25 | dwihno | Bagder: Me see |
| 15:04:38 | dwihno | Misa think that was cool :) |
| 15:04:48 | Bagder | hehe, yeah |
| 15:04:50 | dwihno | Bagder: now when I've kissed your ass, you can do my laundry |
| 15:05:00 | dwihno | :-) |
| 15:05:13 | MeRWiN | How is stuffit/winzip/curl a McAfee beta product? |
| 15:05:21 | Bagder | no idea |
| 15:05:25 | dwihno | Sue them! |
| 15:05:28 | dwihno | You can get lots of cash! |
| 15:05:33 | dwihno | You will get rich! |
| 15:05:43 | Bagder | and they just link to the sites, they don't offer the tools |
| 15:05:46 | dwihno | Even richer than Linus with the rockbox 1.2 release ideas ;) |
| 15:06:06 | | Quit MeRWiN (Remote closed the connection) |
| 15:06:24 | Linus | oh, now they took Merwins laptop too! |
| 15:06:29 | dwihno | Oh no! :( |
| 15:06:33 | * | Bagder laughs |
| 15:06:44 | Bagder | he probably looked away |
| 15:06:48 | Bagder | *snap* |
| 15:07:00 | notch | okay how do you send a cvs diff result to a file... |
| 15:07:08 | Bagder | 'cvs diff >mooooo' |
| 15:07:13 | dwihno | Where did all the honest people go (who only stole the office supplies instead of computers ;) |
| 15:07:31 | | Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 15:07:43 | Bagder | dwihno: the honest thiefs were stolen ;-) |
| 15:07:46 | MeRWiN | Which one of you guys wrote cURL? |
| 15:07:54 | * | Bagder raises his hand |
| 15:08:00 | * | Linus raises his |
| 15:08:21 | MeRWiN | all of the haxx brothers then :) |
| 15:08:21 | dwihno | Bagder: heh |
| 15:08:24 | Bagder | even Björn has patched it ;-) |
| 15:08:53 | Linus | Bagder: is the main developer |
| 15:09:04 | MeRWiN | wow, I've been listening to Italian Rock for the last 5 minutes and I haven't even realized that it wasn't in English |
| 15:09:29 | Bagder | you're probably too busy holding on to your laptop |
| 15:09:31 | * | dwihno hypnotizes Bagder... domyla undry! domyla undry! domyla undry! |
| 15:09:56 | dwihno | Do I sense a heap of not-so-good laptop theft jokes? ;) |
| 15:10:06 | Bagder | noooo |
| 15:10:14 | MeRWiN | Bagder: I leave my laptop in the office sometimes... although I'm in the office building that is anal about nothing EXCEPT parking. They hand out tickets for everything |
| 15:10:26 | MeRWiN | It's the other office building that is anal about office politics |
| 15:16:14 | Linus | i wonder when zagor is going to commit his next/prev fix? |
| 15:16:26 | MeRWiN | didn't he do that? |
| 15:16:31 | Linus | Zagor|coffee: stop drinking coffee! |
| 15:16:40 | Linus | MeRWiN: he said he did |
| 15:16:45 | MeRWiN | Fixed bugs in next/prev handling. Replaced peek_next_track() with playlist_next(). |
| 15:17:14 | Linus | strange. i got no commit mail |
| 15:17:17 | Bagder | weirdo |
| 15:17:18 | Bagder | me neither |
| 15:17:30 | Linus | and cvs diff gave nothing |
| 15:17:34 | MeRWiN | Linus: he committed 3 patches |
| 15:18:36 | MeRWiN | mine updated... peek_next_track is nowhere to be found in my tree.c anymore |
| 15:18:42 | | Quit edx ("brb") |
| 15:19:13 | Linus | then we should have no showstoppers |
| 15:20:20 | MeRWiN | if it works :) |
| 15:20:25 | Linus | hehe |
| 15:20:34 | MeRWiN | Linus: you should test it out |
| 15:20:40 | MeRWiN | this should speed up track changes, right? |
| 15:20:46 | Linus | yes |
| 15:20:51 | MeRWiN | by a lot? |
| 15:20:59 | Linus | next, but not prev |
| 15:21:51 | MeRWiN | most people go forward anyways |
| 15:22:06 | Linus | ouch! |
| 15:22:22 | Linus | he hasn't taken the watermark into account |
| 15:23:06 | MeRWiN | Linus: hmm... if there's a low watermark then it doesn't buffer more or something? |
| 15:23:14 | Linus | possible playback stop |
| 15:23:52 | Linus | it may start the playback of the next song way below the watermark, so the disk won't spin up in time |
| 15:24:15 | MeRWiN | ahh |
| 15:25:17 | Linus | ouch again! |
| 15:25:45 | Linus | he calculates the unplayed space too early |
| 15:26:38 | Linus | i wish he could finish his coffee |
| 15:26:50 | MeRWiN | Linus: that's one huge cup of coffee |
| 15:27:00 | MeRWiN | Linus: how prevalent is english in sweeden? |
| 15:28:25 | Linus | they teach english in school from age 10 |
| 15:28:45 | dwihno | one two tree :-) |
| 15:28:53 | Linus | free four |
| 15:28:56 | dwihno | :-) |
| 15:29:01 | MeRWiN | wow. I was wondering why everyone from Ericsson spoke good english :) |
| 15:29:21 | Bagder | we're also fed with all the american movies and TV shows, subtitled |
| 15:29:25 | Linus | as nobody else but us speaks swedish, we have no choice |
| 15:29:47 | MeRWiN | That is true I guess |
| 15:30:17 | dwihno | We also broadcast Ricki Lake. She has taught us everything there is to know about the american lifestyle ;) |
| 15:30:40 | MeRWiN | Hmm... not sure if Ricki Lake is the best model american. I'd choose Jerry Springer for that |
| 15:30:46 | Bagder | hehehe |
| 15:30:50 | dwihno | :-) |
| 15:30:57 | Linus | or Dave Letterman |
| 15:31:00 | | Nick Zagor|coffee is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 15:31:01 | | Quit WetFlax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 15:31:02 | Zagor | bad news |
| 15:31:14 | dwihno | bad news or REALLY bad news? |
| 15:31:22 | Zagor | my wlan doesn't cover the local coffee shop |
| 15:31:27 | Bagder | crap |
| 15:31:31 | dwihno | :( |
| 15:31:35 | Linus | oh my! |
| 15:31:36 | dwihno | That's a catastrophe! |
| 15:31:50 | Linus | you'll have to move the coffee shop |
| 15:32:01 | Zagor | time to buy an external antenna |
| 15:32:11 | MeRWiN | Zagor: ouch... We've got wlan on a ton of Starbucks coffee shops in the states :) |
| 15:32:35 | Linus | Zagor: your mpeg fix were not entirely correct |
| 15:32:42 | Zagor | i know |
| 15:32:43 | Linus | fixes |
| 15:32:48 | Zagor | "I seem to have woken up the old "play one track, get next" bug :(" |
| 15:32:55 | Linus | not only that |
| 15:32:59 | MeRWiN | Zagor: one of my co-workers gets the tough job of going to every one of the Starbucks that we have coverage in and testing there drinking coffee all day |
| 15:33:00 | Zagor | what else? |
| 15:33:12 | Linus | see my commit for starters |
| 15:33:14 | MeRWiN | Zagor: let's just say you won't be drowning in the watermark |
| 15:33:16 | Zagor | MeRWiN: it's a shitty job, but someone's gotta do it :) |
| 15:33:50 | Zagor | Linus: ah, right |
| 15:33:59 | MeRWiN | Zagor: yeah, he's the sort of person that drinks about 4 very large cups of coffee a day, so it's perfect for him |
| 15:33:59 | Linus | and you still don't take the watermark into account |
| 15:34:12 | | Join WetFlax [0] (~wettoad@flax.mbi-berlin.de) |
| 15:34:24 | Zagor | when does DEI3 run? |
| 15:34:34 | Linus | Zagor: is your CVS in sync? |
| 15:34:46 | Zagor | yup |
| 15:34:49 | Linus | i fixed a "play one, get the next" bug |
| 15:35:09 | Linus | DEI3 runs when the DMA buffer is finished |
| 15:35:16 | | Join ah_ [0] (~t@ABoulogne-103-1-1-104.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:35:20 | Zagor | i think my new_file() change added a new one |
| 15:35:34 | ah_ | hi. |
| 15:35:37 | Linus | hi |
| 15:37:55 | MeRWiN | hi |
| 15:39:44 | ah_ | I try to test daily build for two weeks now and i've a NO FAT 32 PA (can't see more font is big ). Got a jukebox 6000 , internal firmware 4.53 and i replace the HDD with a 30 gb IBM. Ver 1.1 works great. |
| 15:40:24 | Bagder | PA ? Partition A... ? |
| 15:41:56 | ah_ | the font is really big so the message could be longuer. Jukebox boot , certainly loads the rockbox firmware then i've 'No FAT32 pa' |
| 15:42:58 | MeRWiN | No FAT32 Partition |
| 15:43:06 | MeRWiN | ah_: is the drive formatted as FAT32? |
| 15:43:39 | MeRWiN | Linus/Bagder: That could be another fix, make the font smaller immediately after displaying the Rockbox! message so errors are displayed properly |
| 15:43:51 | Bagder | indeed |
| 15:45:21 | ah_ | i think that it couldn't work. It works with official firmware and rockbox 1.1 |
| 15:45:37 | Linus | weirdo |
| 15:45:59 | Bagder | "No partition found, trying to mount sector 0." |
| 15:46:14 | ah_ | sorry incomplete message: i think it's fat32 formated |
| 15:46:15 | Bagder | that's what it says right before the error |
| 15:47:13 | Bagder | fat.c is only changed twice since 1.1 |
| 15:47:20 | matsl | Off for other things. CU! |
| 15:47:32 | MeRWiN | ah_: i believe the original archos firmware only works with fat32 also... |
| 15:47:34 | Linus | Bagder: disk.c is involved |
| 15:47:42 | | Quit matsl ("Liece") |
| 15:47:47 | Bagder | ok |
| 15:48:23 | Linus | ah_: is your drive a master or a slave? |
| 15:48:41 | Zagor | ah_: do you have a linux machine close? |
| 15:48:47 | Zagor | i want to see the partition type id |
| 15:49:04 | Zagor | we added checking for that, and apparently your partition is not one of the accepted |
| 15:49:35 | MeRWiN | ah_: what operating system do you use? |
| 15:50:27 | ah_ | here xp , got an old linux pc but no usb on it and my 2.5 - 3.5 converter is at work |
| 15:50:29 | Linus | Zagor: maybe an extended partition? |
| 15:50:45 | ah_ | will try to find tools |
| 15:50:58 | Zagor | maybe. we need to find out |
| 15:51:01 | ah_ | maybe partition magic can do that ? |
| 15:51:07 | Linus | yes |
| 15:51:09 | Bagder | sounds possible |
| 15:51:27 | Zagor | no, 1.1 didn't handle extended partitions either |
| 15:51:35 | Zagor | it must be the type id |
| 15:51:56 | | Nick notch is now known as notch|busy (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) |
| 15:51:56 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK notch|busy |
| 15:53:27 | Zagor | Failed opening dir |
| 15:53:27 | Zagor | Couldn't open file: /Farbror Frejp/Farbror Frej - CD-rom.mp3 |
| 15:53:48 | Zagor | how the heck did i do that :( |
| 15:54:12 | | Quit notch|busy () |
| 15:54:16 | Bagder | an extra p? |
| 15:54:39 | Zagor | you're right |
| 15:54:59 | Linus | Zagor: that could be my fault |
| 15:55:06 | Bagder | bad slash fix perhaps |
| 15:55:12 | Zagor | i guess so |
| 15:55:16 | Linus | playlist.c |
| 15:55:30 | Bagder | yes |
| 15:55:31 | MeRWiN | http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html <−−−− shows all known partition identifiers |
| 15:55:38 | Bagder | change the line under Linus' fix |
| 15:55:51 | Zagor | ah, right |
| 15:56:16 | Bagder | MeRWiN: good digging |
| 15:56:24 | | Quit WetFlax ("I like core dumps") |
| 15:56:27 | Zagor | linux fdisk knows them too :) |
| 15:56:48 | MeRWiN | Zagor: yup, but i'm not running linux :) |
| 15:56:50 | Zagor | we're accepting b and c |
| 15:56:52 | Bagder | we only need which ah has now |
| 15:57:19 | Linus | Bagder: did I put the \0 at the wrong place? |
| 15:57:36 | Zagor | Linus: yes |
| 15:57:38 | Bagder | Linus: yes |
| 15:57:43 | Linus | forgot to change that |
| 15:57:43 | Zagor | fixed |
| 15:58:01 | MeRWiN | could be 0B, 0C, 1B, 1C, |
| 15:58:02 | Bagder | it seems as if 1b and 1c are possible too |
| 15:58:22 | Zagor | right. ah_, how's it going? |
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| 15:58:50 | MeRWiN | Bagder: would 0f be a possibility? Extended partition (LBA)? |
| 15:59:04 | Linus | that would be *so* XP, to create a hidden partition! |
| 15:59:31 | Bagder | perhaps f, yes |
| 15:59:32 | MeRWiN | Linus: never doubt the "creativeness" of microsoft |
| 15:59:33 | Zagor | MeRWiN: we don't support extended partitions at all right now (they require extra parsing) |
| 15:59:33 | Linus | MeRWiN: yeah i thought of that |
| 15:59:44 | Bagder | "Windows NT does not recognize the four W95 types b, c, e, f " |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:07 | MeRWiN | Bagder: so F is a valid Fat32 type (if the extra parsing were there) |
| 16:00:13 | Linus | Bagder: winnt doesn not support fat32 at all |
| 16:00:26 | Bagder | ah, right |
| 16:01:21 | MeRWiN | Time to move my car to the parking garage |
| 16:01:24 | | Nick MeRWiN is now known as MeRWiN|Movin (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 16:02:49 | Bagder | PARTITION_XINT13 |
| 16:02:56 | Bagder | "Windows 95/98/Me: Partition that uses extended int13 services." |
| 16:03:13 | Bagder | and there's a PARTITION_XINT13_EXTENDED |
| 16:03:58 | Bagder | god knows what real values they have |
| 16:05:33 | Linus | Zagor: you must not start the DMA until the watermark is reached! |
| 16:05:40 | Linus | use play_pending |
| 16:06:10 | Bagder | http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/dmref_1os3.asp |
| 16:06:20 | | Nick MeRWiN|Movin is now known as MeRWiN (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 16:06:33 | Zagor | Linus: you mean if next goes below watermark? |
| 16:06:45 | Linus | yes |
| 16:07:04 | Zagor | Linus: can you fix this? you're more at home with the dma and watermarks |
| 16:07:15 | Linus | sure |
| 16:08:34 | Zagor | ah_: are you there? i'm preparing a module for you to test. which rom version do you have? |
| 16:08:44 | Linus | 4.53 |
| 16:09:01 | Zagor | ah, he said so. good. |
| 16:11:14 | Zagor | ah_: http://rockbox.haxx.se/ahtest.mod |
| 16:12:53 | ah_ | ok |
| 16:16:03 | MeRWiN | ah_: is the partition the default one that came with the drive or did you re-partition/reformat? |
| 16:16:11 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 16:16:11 | * | Zagor is anxiously awaiting the result... |
| 16:16:23 | | Quit elinenbe () |
| 16:19:10 | ah_ | still the same erro |
| 16:19:10 | ah_ | r |
| 16:19:19 | Zagor | ok, hang on |
| 16:19:22 | Bagder | Zagor: output the found id |
| 16:19:27 | Zagor | exactly |
| 16:19:31 | ah_ | yes |
| 16:19:34 | Bagder | and reduce the font first |
| 16:19:39 | grummel | does the rockbox charde the batteries in us mode?! |
| 16:19:46 | grummel | usb mode |
| 16:19:57 | Bagder | very good question |
| 16:20:21 | MeRWiN | grummel: player or recorder? |
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| 16:20:36 | grummel | player |
| 16:20:49 | MeRWiN | grummel: I believe it is. I believe it's always charging when the charger is plugged in |
| 16:21:01 | MeRWiN | grummel: the charging is hardware-controlled |
| 16:21:02 | Linus | player has hardware controlled charger |
| 16:21:05 | ah_ | MeRWiN i think that the travelstar comes unformated and i formated it on a win2k server i think , it was a year ago. |
| 16:21:21 | MeRWiN | ah_: ahh... ok. |
| 16:21:25 | ah_ | using win tools :( |
| 16:21:25 | Zagor | ah_: test again |
| 16:22:17 | grummel | ok, I know most of us here are from sweden and I'm to(in stockholm), now I'mn goin out to get new batteries, have u got any recommendations and where to buy?! |
| 16:22:32 | Linus | teknikmagasinet |
| 16:22:37 | Zagor | grummel: claes ohlsson, teknikmagasinet or some such place. |
| 16:22:44 | Linus | GP1800mAh |
| 16:22:45 | grummel | GP batteries?! |
| 16:22:49 | Zagor | yup |
| 16:22:49 | grummel | ok |
| 16:22:54 | grummel | thanks |
| 16:23:03 | Linus | and get the 1hour charger too. it rocks! |
| 16:23:15 | grummel | ok |
| 16:23:24 | Linus | and it costs! |
| 16:23:26 | MeRWiN | Linus: 1 hour charger? |
| 16:23:32 | Linus | fast charger |
| 16:23:38 | Zagor | it's lovely |
| 16:23:49 | Linus | and you can fry an egg on the batteries |
| 16:23:54 | Zagor | hehe |
| 16:23:58 | Bagder | portable kitchen |
| 16:24:07 | MeRWiN | Linus: can't be very good for battery life though |
| 16:24:26 | Linus | not really |
| 16:24:46 | ah_ | 6 0 0 0:No ??????? |
| 16:25:02 | Zagor | ah_: right. that's the partition types |
| 16:25:03 | Linus | i think Uwe is on to something in the mailing list |
| 16:25:05 | MeRWiN | So does the max voltage output change if you use a different mAh battery? |
| 16:25:12 | Zagor | 6 is fat16 |
| 16:25:18 | ah_ | hu ? |
| 16:25:22 | Linus | that might explain why our charger stops too early |
| 16:25:25 | Zagor | are you sure 1.1 worked on this? |
| 16:25:31 | ah_ | yes for sure |
| 16:25:34 | MeRWiN | ah_: you need to reformat |
| 16:25:42 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 16:25:47 | ah_ | and that windows say that it's a win 32 |
| 16:25:51 | Zagor | does format really alter the partition table? |
| 16:26:01 | MeRWiN | Zagor: it should |
| 16:26:15 | MeRWiN | ah_: In the properties it actually says FAT32? |
| 16:26:22 | ah_ | yes |
| 16:26:42 | ah_ | will try to find a soft like partition magic |
| 16:26:45 | MeRWiN | ah_: if you don't have anything too crucial on that drive i'd reformat it |
| 16:26:48 | Linus | Zagor: the partition type shouldn't matter |
| 16:26:51 | grummel | do u know what name the 1 hour chargers has got?! |
| 16:27:11 | MeRWiN | ah_: it could have been a windows screwup the first time you formatted it |
| 16:27:16 | Zagor | Linus: true. we should simply try and mount all partitions in order. |
| 16:27:32 | Linus | at least peek at the boot block |
| 16:27:36 | Zagor | grummel: GP PowerBank Smart |
| 16:27:43 | grummel | 699kr!! |
| 16:27:51 | Linus | i said it costs! |
| 16:28:00 | MeRWiN | grummel: how much is that in USD? |
| 16:28:01 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 16:28:03 | Zagor | yeah, it's pricey. mostly useful for us developers, i'd say |
| 16:28:09 | Zagor | MeRWiN: about $70 |
| 16:28:20 | MeRWiN | $70?!@#@%?! damn, that's expensive |
| 16:28:52 | grummel | how long does the 1800 batteries last after a full charge withthat?! |
| 16:28:56 | grummel | charger |
| 16:30:25 | Zagor | about 10h with stock firmware |
| 16:30:42 | grummel | and with rockbox?! |
| 16:30:53 | MeRWiN | and about 5h after it's charged 20 times with the rapid charger :-) |
| 16:30:54 | Zagor | i don't know. I always mess too much with it to know :) |
| 16:30:56 | grummel | but teknikmagasinet has got 1900mah batteries! |
| 16:31:37 | Zagor | MeRWiN: not really. nimh batteries can be fast-charged, unlike nicd |
| 16:32:06 | MeRWiN | Zagor: hmm.. maybe i should look into one of those fast chargers then |
| 16:32:12 | MeRWiN | how long does the normal charger take to charge? |
| 16:32:24 | Zagor | about 6-15 hours |
| 16:32:33 | MeRWiN | ack |
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| 16:35:07 | Zagor | ah_: new test |
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| 16:35:15 | dwihno | Ah, I just thought of something... Will it be possible to crossfade two tracks? |
| 16:35:17 | Zagor | aww |
| 16:35:22 | Bagder | darned peer |
| 16:35:22 | dwihno | :¨¨( |
| 16:35:26 | Zagor | dwihno: no |
| 16:35:29 | dwihno | Sankte Peer |
| 16:35:37 | dwihno | Zagor: too bad :/ |
| 16:36:09 | Zagor | we only have one mp3 decoder |
| 16:37:00 | dwihno | An idea: To make pressing 'next' more sufficient, maybe the first reads on a "new" file should be made smaller? |
| 16:37:36 | Zagor | dwihno: they already are |
| 16:37:51 | dwihno | they are? :) |
| 16:37:57 | dwihno | Then why is it so slow? |
| 16:38:19 | Linus | it is the playlist loading |
| 16:38:39 | Linus | and the ID3 parsing |
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| 16:38:52 | dwihno | id3 parsing should be optional :) |
| 16:38:57 | Linus | and the drive needs to spin up each time |
| 16:38:58 | dwihno | And playlist loading too ;) |
| 16:39:06 | Linus | hehe |
| 16:39:14 | dwihno | Seriousley. |
| 16:39:21 | dwihno | Why not keep id3 parsing optional? :) |
| 16:39:25 | * | Zagor thinks the remote patch looks very strange. Why all those #ifdefs? |
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| 16:39:45 | MeRWiN | Interesting ... I just read that storing NiMH batteries in the freezer prolongs their shelf-life :) |
| 16:39:56 | Zagor | MeRWiN: really? |
| 16:39:57 | Linus | we could stop looking for V1 tags if we found a V2 tag |
| 16:40:04 | * | Zagor moves his spare ones to the kitchen |
| 16:40:22 | dwihno | MeRWiN: freezer? not refridgerator? |
| 16:40:35 | Bagder | Linus: I bet the difference won't be noticable though |
| 16:40:37 | MeRWiN | http://www.greenbatteries.com/documents/battery_myths.htm#Freezer |
| 16:41:10 | Linus | the longest wait is probably for the spin up |
| 16:41:36 | dwihno | Linus: why does it have to spin up if I switch track in less than 5 secs? |
| 16:41:38 | Zagor | MeRWiN: oh, it's for keeping the charge |
| 16:41:58 | Linus | dwihno: because someone put an ata_sleep() in the mpeg.c code |
| 16:42:04 | * | Linus points to Zagor |
| 16:42:05 | Bagder | heheheh |
| 16:42:18 | Bagder | that's what MeRWiN and I've been on about |
| 16:42:23 | dwihno | Stop blaming Zagor for everything! :) |
| 16:42:39 | * | Linus keeps shut about the fact that he did it first |
| 16:42:56 | MeRWiN | Bagder: what have we been on about? ata_sleep? |
| 16:42:58 | dwihno | LBZ - Let's blame Zagor! |
| 16:43:04 | Zagor | we might want to wait with the spindown on the first buffer read of a track |
| 16:43:08 | notch|busy | Zagor - Feel free to change them - they were for player/recorder compat. |
| 16:43:09 | dwihno | So why is there an ata_sleep in the mpeg code? |
| 16:43:14 | Bagder | MeRWiN: yes, about mpeg spinning down the disk |
| 16:43:24 | Linus | dwihno: to save batteries |
| 16:43:33 | MeRWiN | Bagder: I think the ata_sleep() should disappear from that code. |
| 16:43:36 | Zagor | notch|busy: yes, but you've put identical code in many of them :-) |
| 16:43:37 | Bagder | me too |
| 16:43:53 | grummel | should I buy the 1 hour 699kr charger or the 2-5hour 499kr?! |
| 16:43:53 | dwihno | Linus: just move the spindown after 5 secs then :-) |
| 16:43:54 | MeRWiN | Linus: it really doesn't save that much though in the long run. It's only 5 extra seconds of being spun up |
| 16:44:09 | MeRWiN | grummel: put in the extra cash for the 1 hour |
| 16:44:15 | notch|busy | I thought I would keep them as this may need changing at a later date... |
| 16:44:49 | notch|busy | i.e. I havent tested this on a player :-) |
| 16:44:53 | Zagor | k |
| 16:45:12 | Zagor | MeRWiN: I smell an option :) |
| 16:45:30 | dwihno | Options to the people! |
| 16:45:48 | dwihno | Rockbox is already 10 times more configurable than the stock firmware :) |
| 16:47:57 | MeRWiN | Zagor: that's what we were saying before. heh. |
| 16:49:14 | dwihno | Or as we say in Iran - Frekicheee! :D |
| 16:49:32 | Zagor | ooookay, any more known bugs stopping us from releasing? |
| 16:49:56 | dwihno | parse mode stripping data from the filename |
| 16:50:09 | Linus | dwihno: please explain that one |
| 16:50:18 | dwihno | sure |
| 16:50:37 | dwihno | I keep my album filenames in the format XX. blablablablabla.mp3 |
| 16:50:44 | dwihno | 1) I start a track |
| 16:50:52 | dwihno | 2) I press 'on' (dirbrowser) |
| 16:51:07 | dwihno | 3) I press 'on', return to the WPS and I see only XX |
| 16:51:37 | dwihno | (no id3 tag) |
| 16:52:10 | MeRWiN | What is parse mode? |
| 16:52:23 | Zagor | wps mode "parse" |
| 16:52:32 | Linus | i think parse is broken now |
| 16:52:46 | MeRWiN | What does the Parse mean though |
| 16:53:27 | Bagder | "extract info from filename" |
| 16:53:27 | dwihno | My "ugly fix" involves commenting line 100-101 in wps.c just to make it go away ;) |
| 16:53:28 | Bagder | I guess |
| 16:53:37 | MeRWiN | That will never work :) |
| 16:53:45 | MeRWiN | Too many different ways of naming filenames |
| 16:54:07 | Bagder | well, if there's no id3 info, showing parts of the path on screen is likely to be more useful than just blank |
| 16:54:26 | MeRWiN | Bagder: i'd rather just see the filename if there's no id3 info. |
| 16:54:28 | Linus | yes, but a scrolling filename should be enough |
| 16:54:40 | Bagder | I don't think so |
| 16:54:49 | Bagder | I'd rather fill up the blanks with static info from the file name |
| 16:54:59 | Bagder | otherwise I get three empty lines |
| 16:55:03 | Bagder | and one scroll |
| 16:55:30 | MeRWiN | Bagder: Empty space is not always a bad thing... find something else to fill it with, like the bitrate and filesize or something :) |
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| 16:55:35 | Linus | that is what you get with "parse" now as well, i think it's broken |
| 16:55:51 | Bagder | MeRWiN: it's already there, even when the id3 info is complete |
| 16:56:13 | nsauzede | {hi all} |
| 16:56:17 | Bagder | then again, I have id3 tags on almost every mp3 I own |
| 16:56:24 | Bagder | hey nsauzede |
| 16:56:31 | Linus | hi |
| 16:56:35 | MeRWiN | Bagder: hmm, well, i dunno. I'm personally not much for the parse thing, but if we can find a way to get it to work reliably then it'll work fine for some people i guess |
| 16:56:45 | dwihno | Linus: I also noticed the id3->path length decreased when leaving&returning to the WPS... |
| 16:57:12 | Linus | that is probably a strtok() "feature" |
| 16:57:13 | dwihno | Linus: that's why I got a bit suspicious about the code retrieving the path from the list |
| 16:58:11 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 16:58:50 | Zagor | i don't think i'll be holding 1.2 for the parse mode. i've always considered it a test |
| 16:58:57 | Zagor | opinions? |
| 16:59:04 | Linus | no |
| 16:59:13 | Bagder | I'm on your side Zagor |
| 16:59:13 | MeRWiN | Zagor: i think you should disable parse mode for the 1.2 release |
| 16:59:21 | dwihno | yeah |
| 16:59:23 | Linus | we have made a lot of changes today |
| 16:59:24 | Bagder | yeah, you can #ifdef the option |
| 16:59:37 | Zagor | that's a good idea |
| 16:59:42 | Linus | we should wait with the release until tomorrow |
| 16:59:46 | Zagor | Linus: i agree |
| 16:59:50 | Bagder | right |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:06 | Bagder | #ifdef now, though, then we can all update cvs and run |
| 17:00:20 | Linus | we should fix the double-height error messages |
| 17:00:21 | Bagder | and check for the last minute breaks |
| 17:00:22 | Zagor | i won't include the partition type fix either |
| 17:00:28 | Linus | or are they double-height? |
| 17:00:35 | Bagder | nah, fix that after 1.2 |
| 17:01:04 | Bagder | small error messages is a new feature ;-) |
| 17:01:12 | dwihno | Bagder: you need to modify your signature, it still has the old rockbox URL :) |
| 17:01:21 | Bagder | oops |
| 17:01:34 | Linus | LAME! |
| 17:01:40 | nsauzede | bagder: nice job with the rockbox manual |
| 17:01:40 | Linus | gotta catch the train now |
| 17:01:48 | * | Bagder bows |
| 17:01:49 | Linus | bye guys! |
| 17:01:53 | Bagder | see ya Linus |
| 17:02:14 | Zagor | is the charger enabled on rec20 only, or on all? |
| 17:02:24 | Bagder | nsauzede: it still needs a lot of improvements though |
| 17:02:28 | Linus | only recorder of course |
| 17:02:47 | Zagor | doh, right. the others can't be controlled... |
| 17:02:51 | nsauzede | bagder : I just found 1 dead link, |
| 17:02:58 | Linus | bye! |
| 17:02:59 | | Part Linus |
| 17:03:02 | Bagder | nsauzede: url? |
| 17:03:29 | nsauzede | http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/play-wps.html |
| 17:03:37 | nsauzede | link : back to main page |
| 17:03:44 | | Join ah_ [0] (sam@ABoulogne-103-1-1-104.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:03:50 | nsauzede | oops user manual front page indeed |
| 17:03:54 | Zagor | ah_: can you test again? |
| 17:03:59 | ah_ | Ok thanks for all, got a long car trip tomorow ( 2000 km) , so no times to reformate my drive , when i come from vacation will make some test before transfert and format my drive. Sounds crazy but i think that the drive is fat32 formated with a bad id type. |
| 17:04:03 | ah_ | zagor yes |
| 17:04:27 | ah_ | have been disconeted |
| 17:04:39 | ah_ | can you give me the url back |
| 17:04:48 | ah_ | you remove the fat32 test ? |
| 17:04:52 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/ahtest.mod |
| 17:05:02 | Zagor | yes, that version tries to mount all partitions |
| 17:05:13 | nsauzede | bagder: 1 question plz |
| 17:05:29 | Zagor | nsauzede: now there should be no bad links |
| 17:05:29 | Bagder | fire away |
| 17:05:44 | nsauzede | zagor : cool ! |
| 17:06:06 | nsauzede | bagder : do u remember when you asked me to produce details about |
| 17:06:21 | nsauzede | how to compile win32 sim with lcc-win32 ? |
| 17:06:41 | dwihno | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-06/0193.shtml |
| 17:06:45 | dwihno | Check that out nsauzede |
| 17:06:58 | dwihno | it's not lcc, but mingw |
| 17:07:12 | nsauzede | errm, thanks dwi, |
| 17:07:28 | nsauzede | but I *DID* try to compile with lcc-win32 :-) |
| 17:07:43 | nsauzede | (which is another free win32 C compiler) |
| 17:08:00 | ah_ | Zagor works fine |
| 17:08:09 | Bagder | coolers |
| 17:08:22 | Bagder | Zagor: that fix should probably go in though |
| 17:08:23 | Zagor | ah_: nice! |
| 17:08:57 | Zagor | Bagder: maybe. i'm undecided... |
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| 17:09:12 | Bagder | nsauzede: so what's the q? |
| 17:09:29 | Bagder | Zagor: I think so, for ah's sake and others in his position |
| 17:09:42 | nsauzede | bagder: ok : so I recently re-tried to compile using lcc the recent cvs win32 sim, |
| 17:09:59 | ah_ | hum what does that mean ? that the partition is fat32 but that the id type is wrong ? |
| 17:10:45 | nsauzede | bagder: but I encountered problems, I believe that file dependencies have been added in Makefile in the mean time, |
| 17:11:13 | MeRWiN | ah_: yeah |
| 17:11:15 | ah_ | hey cool i didn't sea the modification since 1.1 , usb without on/off is really great |
| 17:11:21 | Bagder | nsauzede: what makefile are you using |
| 17:11:25 | nsauzede | bagder: and the problem is that lcc is not a gcc clone, and don't offer as many command line switches... |
| 17:11:44 | nsauzede | the one created by configure |
| 17:11:49 | nsauzede | I guess :) |
| 17:12:14 | nsauzede | (modified a little to fit lcc) |
| 17:12:34 | Bagder | so if it is recent code, it should work properly |
| 17:12:59 | nsauzede | bagder: indeed, my question is : as someone offered ming-win32 possibility to compile the win32 sim, |
| 17:13:17 | Zagor | ah_: yes, it's fat32 formatted but the id says it's fat16 |
| 17:13:29 | nsauzede | is it worth trying to maintain lcc compatability ? |
| 17:13:58 | nsauzede | ming-win32 is a clone of gcc right, what is not lcc |
| 17:14:03 | nsauzede | your opinion ? |
| 17:15:06 | Bagder | if mingw32 users on windows can use the mingw-makefile put there right now it would be the coolest |
| 17:15:12 | Bagder | but right now I'm not sure about that |
| 17:15:21 | Bagder | and if not, we have neither mingw nor lcc makefiles in the tree |
| 17:15:31 | Bagder | so either one would be an addition |
| 17:15:31 | ah_ | Zagor, win tools reconize it as fat32 , they maybe use other way that type id to check the file system and that the disk manager tools version i used a year ago to formated is bugged. |
| 17:16:15 | nsauzede | bagder: ok, I'll see what I can do then.. |
| 17:17:02 | Zagor | ah_: they only check the file system, not the partition type |
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| 17:20:15 | ah_ | Hum type id check is a good idea. I'll reformat my disk when i come back from vacation or try to change the type id manualy. Hope that i'm was the only guy to use this bugged version of win2k disk manager :p |
| 17:22:22 | Zagor | Bagder: i think i'll hold the mount fix. it could introduce problems, and ah_ is the first i've heard with the problem |
| 17:22:34 | Bagder | you're right |
| 17:23:16 | Bagder | the mailing list is getting quite busy lately |
| 17:23:17 | ah_ | so thanks for that 'personal build' :p |
| 17:23:27 | Zagor | ah_: no problem. thanks for helping |
| 17:23:53 | MeRWiN | Bagder: I've got a pre-built Cygwin package for the SH1 cross compiler... seems as if it may be easier to have the windows users just install cygwin and drop in my package |
| 17:24:30 | Bagder | for cross-compiles indeed |
| 17:24:34 | Bagder | but for building the sim? |
| 17:24:59 | MeRWiN | Bagder: how do you build the sim? just go into the sim folder and hit make? |
| 17:25:15 | Bagder | not really |
| 17:25:18 | MeRWiN | or actually, it would be a different makefile |
| 17:25:33 | Bagder | you can run the configure script, right? |
| 17:25:35 | MeRWiN | yeah |
| 17:25:44 | MeRWiN | i was smoking crack a second ago :) |
| 17:25:56 | Bagder | if you run that and select win32-sim, it makes a makefile suitable for mingw32 builds... |
| 17:26:14 | MeRWiN | brb |
| 17:26:21 | Bagder | but we could pretty easy make the compiler selectable and run either mingw or cygwin |
| 17:27:04 | nsauzede | cygwin for producing win32 binary ? |
| 17:27:10 | Bagder | yes |
| 17:27:24 | nsauzede | wow |
| 17:27:39 | Bagder | at least I guess so |
| 17:27:48 | Bagder | I'm not the one who'll do it ;-) |
| 17:27:57 | nsauzede | what you mean by : cygwin-compiler ? |
| 17:28:11 | Bagder | nsauzede: if you install cygwin you get a compiler |
| 17:28:20 | Bagder | gcc |
| 17:28:32 | nsauzede | ok, and ... errm |
| 17:28:38 | nsauzede | I'm confused here?? |
| 17:28:58 | nsauzede | => I'll check that now :-) |
| 17:29:03 | nsauzede | great idea ! |
| 17:29:12 | Bagder | :-) |
| 17:29:58 | nsauzede | bagder : (gcc −−version returned me 2.95.3-4 => I'll see what I can do with it) −− bye all ! |
| 17:30:25 | Bagder | hehe, bye nsauzede |
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| 17:32:55 | Bagder | dwihno: you mind if I steal your "shirt" outline for my upcoming design contribution? |
| 17:36:32 | Zagor | i'd say it's time to link to the /manual/. it's not complete by any means, but it's the best we've got. |
| 17:36:42 | Bagder | yes |
| 17:36:57 | Bagder | throwing people at it is the best way to make it improve as well |
| 17:37:25 | Zagor | yes. plus a stern order that anyone who changes the UI *must* also change /manual/ |
| 17:37:51 | Bagder | we need more screen dumps |
| 17:37:55 | Zagor | yes |
| 17:38:02 | Zagor | how about that ui function? :-) |
| 17:38:17 | Bagder | use gimp ;-) |
| 17:38:30 | Bagder | "aquire" |
| 17:38:37 | Zagor | i know |
| 17:40:26 | Bagder | some screens aren't possible to get using the sim though |
| 17:40:30 | Bagder | like wps |
| 17:40:31 | Bagder | and usb |
| 17:40:53 | Zagor | we had wps before my vacation. what happened with that? |
| 17:41:13 | Bagder | I don't know |
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| 17:54:01 | * | edx needs photos of an archos device... |
| 17:54:11 | edx | are there any photos on the websites |
| 17:54:28 | Zagor | yes |
| 17:54:40 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/devcon/ |
| 17:55:04 | Zagor | i'll add them to the photo page too, so they're easier to find |
| 17:57:41 | edx | yea - ive looked ther ebut didnt find them |
| 17:57:43 | edx | thanks |
| 18:00 |
| 18:05:35 | Bagder | http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-06/msg00325.html |
| 18:05:46 | Bagder | amusing |
| 18:06:27 | Zagor | how did you find that? |
| 18:06:37 | Bagder | magic |
| 18:06:43 | Bagder | nah, googling |
| 18:06:54 | Zagor | link searching? |
| 18:07:20 | Bagder | no |
| 18:07:24 | Bagder | just 'rockbox archos' |
| 18:07:27 | Zagor | ok |
| 18:08:33 | Bagder | http://debianlinux.net/hardware.html, listed under "Custom/Specialized/Crazy Computer Systems" ;-) |
| 18:08:46 | Bagder | I like crazy |
| 18:08:50 | Zagor | hehe |
| 18:09:06 | Bagder | I'll continue this from home instead, see ya soon |
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| 18:17:44 | Zagor | bjorn:~# apt-get -u upgrade |
| 18:17:51 | Zagor | 197 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. |
| 18:17:51 | Zagor | Need to get 81.2MB of archives. |
| 18:17:56 | Zagor | whoa! |
| 18:18:48 | * | Zagor likes fat pipes (eta: 4m6s) |
| 18:21:16 | notch|busy | notch is jealous.... |
| 18:25:08 | notch|busy | bye all... |
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| 18:35:41 | Zagor | Bagder: the sim wps seems to bug due to missing lcd_update() |
| 18:36:10 | Bagder | aha |
| 18:36:49 | Zagor | or maybe because mpeg_is_playing never returns true |
| 18:41:07 | Zagor | yeah, that's it |
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| 18:41:29 | Zagor | bah, it still bugs bad :-( |
| 18:42:01 | Zagor | code rots fast around here :-) |
| 18:42:08 | Bagder2 | it sure does |
| 18:42:12 | DEBUG | EOF from server (Success) |
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| 18:42:32 | Zagor | ah, welcome back logbot :-) |
| 18:43:24 | Bagder2 | can gimp scale a single layer ? |
| 18:43:26 | Zagor | btw, I installed 'nullidentd' yesterday. a 150-line dummy ident server that gets rid of the annoying delay when connecting to irc servers |
| 18:43:33 | Zagor | Bagder2: no idea |
| 18:43:36 | Bagder2 | cool |
| 18:44:11 | Zagor | everything is soooo easy with debian. i'm in love :) |
| 18:44:46 | Zagor | i just updated 197 packages in ~10 minutes |
| 18:45:22 | Bagder2 | :-) |
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| 19:00:49 | Bagder2 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/designs.html |
| 19:00:49 | | Quit ah_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 19:00:54 | Bagder2 | my contribution added |
| 19:01:42 | Zagor | i like the tagline. "How hard can it be?" |
| 19:02:51 | Zagor | ah, now sim wps works. sweet |
| 19:04:03 | Bagder2 | neat |
| 19:04:09 | | Nick Bagder2 is now known as Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 19:04:30 | Zagor | prev/next doesn't work, though |
| 19:04:53 | Bagder | doesn't surprise me |
| 19:05:12 | Bagder | makes a good screen dump anyway |
| 19:05:15 | Zagor | no, not really. but it shouldn't be too hard to make it work |
| 19:05:20 | Bagder | true |
| 19:07:48 | MeRWiN | Bagder: hehe.. i like your contribution |
| 19:08:14 | Bagder | I like it with more attitude ;-) |
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| 19:20:11 | Zagor | what is the difference, charging-wise, between player-old and player-new ? |
| 19:20:23 | Zagor | is there any? |
| 19:20:40 | Bagder | charging wise? |
| 19:21:07 | Zagor | yes, i remember linus mentioning a difference between them but I can't remember what |
| 19:21:26 | Bagder | no clue |
| 19:21:34 | Zagor | newer players apparently start up the disk when the batteries are full, while the older ones don't. |
| 19:21:47 | Zagor | neither can turn off charging |
| 19:21:48 | Bagder | ah |
| 19:25:07 | | Nick MeRWiN- is now known as MeRWiN (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 19:26:27 | elinenbe | bug: in the keylock on screen on the recorder the name of the track still scrolls |
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| 19:27:51 | Zagor | elinenbe: yeah, that's because we haven't added a scroll_pause/resume yet |
| 19:28:43 | elinenbe | ah. |
| 19:28:55 | Zagor | let's call it a feature until then :-) |
| 19:29:08 | elinenbe | a good thing would be to add a page to the site for unofficial patches. |
| 19:29:33 | Bagder | we could perhaps use the patch tracker on sourceforge |
| 19:29:35 | Zagor | Hes: do you know about the player chargers? |
| 19:29:39 | elinenbe | I uses phpbb on one of my sites, and they have a page like that (for phpbb) it is great. |
| 19:29:45 | Zagor | Bagder: indeed |
| 19:30:08 | Zagor | still, with this much movement patches would go out of date FAST |
| 19:30:16 | Bagder | yeah |
| 19:30:24 | Bagder | they either go in or grow old |
| 19:30:33 | Zagor | exactly |
| 19:31:16 | elinenbe | off to fix my car! the passenger windo came off the track in my 99 VW golf!@ |
| 19:31:22 | Zagor | ouch! |
| 19:31:25 | elinenbe | #@*($@@!#@@* DAMN IT! |
| 19:31:26 | Bagder | uuuh |
| 19:31:41 | elinenbe | what a pain in the ass... I'm gonna have a fun afternoon (sarcasm!) |
| 19:55:23 | Bagder | Zagor: make a screen dump of the wps for the manual! ;-) |
| 19:55:24 | | Quit MeRWiN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 19:55:31 | Zagor | sure |
| 19:55:41 | * | Bagder curses javascript |
| 19:56:53 | Zagor | i think we should kill the status bar menu config and just store changes done with f3 |
| 19:57:01 | Bagder | hehe |
| 19:57:09 | Bagder | *exactly* what I proposed this morning |
| 19:57:10 | Zagor | a menu item is overkill |
| 19:57:14 | Zagor | oh, ok |
| 19:57:25 | Bagder | mbr said he was gonna make it so after 1.2 is released |
| 19:59:58 | Zagor | tetris segfaults the simulator |
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| 20:00:03 | dwihno | You are _SO_ evil :) |
| 20:00:16 | dwihno | Am I the only one wanting everything configurable in the configuration menu? |
| 20:00:33 | Bagder | there's no point in having the status bar on/off in the config menu |
| 20:00:41 | Bagder | it isn't a config issue |
| 20:01:07 | dwihno | hmm |
| 20:01:24 | dwihno | Sure it is :) |
| 20:01:37 | Bagder | I don't think so |
| 20:01:42 | Bagder | its a key |
| 20:01:46 | Bagder | not a config |
| 20:01:58 | Bagder | f1+down toggles key lock |
| 20:02:04 | Bagder | f3 toggles status bar |
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| 20:02:21 | Zagor | i agree |
| 20:02:26 | MeRWiN | Zagor: I added the scroll_pause/resume once (about a week ago), but Linus never committed it |
| 20:02:45 | MeRWiN | Zagor: I think it was supposed to be in but never made it |
| 20:03:02 | Zagor | MeRWiN: ok. well it's not a big enough issue to put it in 1.2 |
| 20:03:21 | MeRWiN | I've got the patch if you still want it :) |
| 20:03:36 | Zagor | send it to the list if you haven't already |
| 20:03:50 | Zagor | it's good to have everything on the list, since it's nicely archived |
| 20:03:51 | Bagder | MeRWiN: you got cvs access now, you can commit it yourself after 1.2 is out |
| 20:04:09 | MeRWiN | Bagder: true true.. when are we pushing 1.2? |
| 20:04:12 | * | Bagder avoids work ;-) |
| 20:04:25 | Zagor | MeRWiN: i plan for release tomorrow |
| 20:04:28 | * | MeRWiN looks stoned in his passport photo |
| 20:04:41 | MeRWiN | Zagor: perfect. :-) |
| 20:04:59 | Bagder | we'll see a flood of commits the minutes after the release :) |
| 20:05:05 | Zagor | hehe |
| 20:05:16 | MeRWiN | Zagor: 1.1 is a letdown compared to 1.2 ... I think people will be nicely suprised |
| 20:05:21 | Zagor | yes |
| 20:06:14 | MeRWiN | I remember the good old days (about 2 months ago) when MP3's barely played back :-) |
| 20:06:30 | Bagder | *g* |
| 20:06:31 | Zagor | hehe. those were the times... :) |
| 20:06:55 | MeRWiN | Then I didn't come back to the site for a month and suddenly it was release software |
| 20:06:55 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 20:07:00 | * | Zagor is reliving The Times using Sidplay and a huge SID collection... |
| 20:07:15 | Bagder | hehe |
| 20:07:16 | MeRWiN | what would sidplay be? |
| 20:07:25 | | Quit grummel () |
| 20:07:31 | Zagor | c64 sound chip emulator. plays old game and demo tunes. |
| 20:07:59 | MeRWiN | I miss demos... they're just not like they used to be anymoe |
| 20:08:50 | Bagder | we were pretty active demo creators on the C64 |
| 20:09:04 | Bagder | back in the late 80s |
| 20:09:37 | MeRWiN | I was an active demo watcher in the early 90's :-) All of 12 years old |
| 20:09:58 | Bagder | kiddo ;-) |
| 20:10:27 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 20:10:58 | MeRWiN | I'm too smart for my own good i guess. *grin*. I've gotta let my age catch up to my knowledge. |
| 20:13:33 | MeRWiN | So what happens with Feature commits (assuming there's no freeze)? Do we all agree on it then commit it? (That's what I would assume) |
| 20:13:58 | Bagder | basicly yes |
| 20:14:26 | Bagder | small things we just commit and discuss afterwards, of course risking having to change it |
| 20:15:42 | Bagder | also, after a commit it is considered polite to check the build status and fix any non-green status |
| 20:16:15 | MeRWiN | K.. I'll have the patch for scroll_pause/resume in ready for commit on a timer to execute tomorrow at 8pm Pacific Standard Time. :) |
| 20:16:19 | MeRWiN | j/k |
| 20:16:30 | Bagder | :-] |
| 20:24:54 | Zagor | ahhh! buggggg! |
| 20:25:15 | Zagor | dirs with playlists start the wrong mp3 when you press PLAY on it |
| 20:26:04 | Bagder | silly |
| 20:28:15 | Bagder | btw, check out this => http://svn.collab.net/repos/logos/entries.html |
| 20:28:23 | Bagder | logo contest ;-) |
| 20:28:47 | Bagder | the funnest thing is how you vote |
| 20:28:55 | Bagder | check out the directory, edit the file, commit |
| 20:29:00 | Bagder | using svn |
| 20:29:58 | Zagor | haha |
| 20:30:21 | Zagor | some cool submissions |
| 20:30:27 | Bagder | #2 is in the lead |
| 20:30:43 | Bagder | with 16 and 7 following |
| 20:33:07 | Hadaka | haha, svn trickling onto this channel as well :) |
| 20:33:23 | Bagder | of course |
| 20:33:29 | Hadaka | sayy, would you want to convert the rockbox repos to svn? ;) |
| 20:34:30 | Bagder | not yet, I'd say |
| 20:35:17 | Hadaka | mmh, yeah, you might want to wait beyond the phase when boostrapping is a necessity atlesat |
| 20:36:04 | Bagder | there are times when being an early adoptor is cool and there are times when it is less cool ;-) |
| 20:37:00 | Hadaka | well it's a bit bad to require everybody to do svn bootstrapping just to download rockbox sources from it's version control system |
| 20:37:10 | Bagder | yes |
| 20:37:28 | Bagder | and then update svn every now and then when more or less annoying bugs are fixed ;-) |
| 20:37:58 | Hadaka | yeah, tracking HEAD is kinda mandatory still |
| 20:38:04 | Bagder | indeed |
| 20:38:26 | Hadaka | so maybe we'll have this conversation again in two months or so ,) |
| 20:38:52 | Bagder | svn is cool, I would really like to run a project on it |
| 20:39:14 | Hadaka | don't - once you touch it, you'll never wanna go back :) |
| 20:40:00 | Bagder | :-) |
| 20:40:20 | Bagder | I have touched it you know ;-) |
| 20:40:23 | MeRWiN | Zagor: Do you have random on by chance? |
| 20:40:36 | Bagder | grep daniel COMMITTERS |
| 20:40:41 | Bagder | B) |
| 20:40:58 | Hadaka | grep naked COMMITTERS |
| 20:41:07 | Bagder | hehe |
| 20:41:10 | Hadaka | :P |
| 20:41:25 | Zagor | MeRWiN: no, off |
| 20:42:03 | MeRWiN | Zagor: hmm... weird. It plays the wrong mp3 when you press PLAY on a playlist, or just any dir with a playlist in it? |
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| 20:42:22 | Zagor | not on a playlist, when I press play on an mp3 |
| 20:42:34 | Zagor | it plays the next |
| 20:43:01 | MeRWiN | Zagor: whoops... might wanna fix that before the release :) |
| 20:43:07 | Zagor | heh, yeah |
| 20:43:22 | MeRWiN | didn't you say there was a mpeg_next/prev problem or something? |
| 20:43:24 | MeRWiN | earlier |
| 20:43:34 | Zagor | it's repeatable in the simulator so it should be a small deal tracking it down |
| 20:43:40 | Zagor | no, it's in the playlist build I think |
| 20:43:59 | Bagder | its probably in the code that skips non-mp3 files or something |
| 20:44:06 | MeRWiN | ahh |
| 20:44:23 | Zagor | yes. it's off by one, although I don't see why |
| 20:46:27 | Bagder | is there one playlist above in this case? |
| 20:46:33 | Zagor | no |
| 20:47:00 | Bagder | but there's one? |
| 20:47:04 | Bagder | I mean not two |
| 20:47:24 | Zagor | no playlist necessary, just a dir that contains both folders and files |
| 20:47:32 | Bagder | aha |
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| 20:47:36 | Bagder | and it is always off by one? |
| 20:47:50 | Zagor | no, now I get more. i thought it was one |
| 20:48:07 | Zagor | in one dir, I'm offset by 3 |
| 20:48:56 | Bagder | you need to step into build_playlist() and I'm sure it'll be visible |
| 20:53:22 | Bagder | see ya |
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| 20:57:36 | Zagor | *dang* found it |
| 20:59:48 | MeRWiN | what was it? |
| 20:59:55 | dwihno | the evil bug! |
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| 21:00:01 | Zagor | silly indexing in build_playlist |
| 21:00:17 | MeRWiN | damn silly indexing |
| 21:01:44 | dwihno | silly silly indexing |
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| 21:07:25 | Zagor | ah, tetris works again |
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| 21:40:50 | MeRWiN | Zagor: I didn't know it wasn't working |
| 21:41:02 | Zagor | it crashed for me in the sim |
| 21:41:05 | MeRWiN | ahh |
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| 22:26:34 | Linus | Zagor! |
| 22:26:40 | Zagor | hey |
| 22:27:04 | Linus | Your latest wrap fix in playlist_next() isn't very good, is it? |
| 22:27:28 | Zagor | wrap fix? |
| 22:27:34 | Linus | isn't it possible that the index is less than -1? |
| 22:27:38 | Zagor | it's a negative fix. and it solves the problem. |
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| 22:27:41 | Zagor | nope |
| 22:27:48 | Zagor | when would it? |
| 22:28:30 | Linus | playlist_next(-number_of_files()); or whatever the function is called |
| 22:28:43 | Zagor | that is one of the bugs reported today "play the first file, go left. go right. it still plays the first file" |
| 22:29:02 | Zagor | that should still never make the *index* negative. only the 'steps' parameter. |
| 22:29:24 | Linus | if index=0 and steps=-3? |
| 22:29:36 | Zagor | then something is wrong. that should never happen. |
| 22:29:48 | Linus | not is repeat=true |
| 22:29:50 | Linus | if |
| 22:30:15 | Linus | play the last song, wrap around and preload the first song again |
| 22:30:17 | Zagor | you mean just because we repeat, we should repeat *backwards* too? |
| 22:30:33 | Zagor | well, that's an option of course |
| 22:30:36 | Linus | you still don't get it? |
| 22:31:08 | Linus | imagine starting to play the last Farbror Frej song |
| 22:31:11 | Zagor | it is my *indention* to not be able to go to any previous track from the first. the first is as much previous as you get |
| 22:31:21 | Linus | it wraps and preloads the next 5 songs |
| 22:31:38 | Linus | press <left> |
| 22:31:56 | Zagor | ok, now i get it. |
| 22:32:00 | Linus | thank you |
| 22:32:06 | Zagor | yeah, we need wrap if repeat is active |
| 22:32:08 | Zagor | i'll fix it |
| 22:32:33 | Linus | that is probably why the modulo operator is used in the first place |
| 22:32:52 | Zagor | well modulo doesn't help much for negatives |
| 22:33:06 | Linus | i guess the programmer didn't know that |
| 22:33:12 | Zagor | possibly |
| 22:33:53 | Linus | what happens if the variable is unsigned? |
| 22:34:45 | Zagor | umm, from -1 it will become 4 billion something. then we modulo it down, and probably won't get the last track :-) |
| 22:35:56 | Zagor | also I don't want it to wrap unless repeat is on |
| 22:36:57 | Linus | true |
| 22:37:45 | Linus | well, i just wanted to whine about the playlist index |
| 22:37:54 | Linus | i'm going to bed |
| 22:37:59 | Zagor | night! |
| 22:38:03 | Zagor | wat! |
| 22:38:03 | Linus | night |
| 22:38:04 | Zagor | wait! |
| 22:38:06 | Linus | ok |
| 22:38:35 | Zagor | what is the difference in charging circuit btwn new and old player? |
| 22:38:44 | freshmaker | Hej, there seems to be a new model available: AJB Recorder 15 w/ black(sic!) bumpers: http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11164156&m=488&cat=538&scat=539 |
| 22:38:57 | Linus | hmmm... |
| 22:39:11 | Linus | Zagor: i don't know |
| 22:39:41 | Zagor | Linus: ok. but they both can just read the voltage and then don't do much more? |
| 22:39:54 | Linus | i guess so |
| 22:39:57 | Zagor | freshmaker: looks like a Recorder 10 with a bigger disk. USB 1.1 |
| 22:40:09 | Zagor | black looks nice, though |
| 22:40:20 | Linus | i think the newplayer(tm) can shut off the disk as well |
| 22:40:29 | freshmaker | yup, and w/o a real umass ata bridge |
| 22:40:31 | Linus | i haven't figured out how... |
| 22:40:40 | Zagor | Linus: shut off the disk? |
| 22:40:48 | Zagor | ah, you mean the ata power |
| 22:40:49 | Linus | power off, like the recorder |
| 22:40:59 | Zagor | yes |
| 22:41:43 | Linus | gotta hit the sack |
| 22:41:48 | Zagor | night! |
| 22:41:51 | Linus | night! |
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| 23:10:04 | | Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 23:10:29 | Zagor | hey, bagder |
| 23:10:35 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 23:11:06 | Zagor | Bagder: what's the the "magic" in ppp log line "[LCP EchoReq id=0xa magic=0xddf631f c3 5c c3 5f" ? |
| 23:11:15 | Zagor | just a key, or some info? |
| 23:11:35 | Bagder | just a key |
| 23:11:53 | Zagor | what's it for? |
| 23:12:00 | Bagder | made to detect loopback |
| 23:12:05 | Zagor | ah |
| 23:12:05 | Bagder | echo |
| 23:12:06 | dwihno | hey, Zagor, both can ppp bigger to be playlist modulo voltage |
| 23:12:11 | Bagder | if I recall it correctly |
| 23:12:39 | Zagor | ok |
| 23:15:13 | Zagor | dwihno: random tech talk? :) |
| 23:15:31 | dwihno | :-) |
| 23:15:41 | dwihno | techtalker(tm) :) |
| 23:15:43 | Bagder | tried my button? ;-) |
| 23:15:54 | dwihno | Sounds like a song |
| 23:15:56 | dwihno | techtalker |
| 23:16:02 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/talklikeme.cgi? |
| 23:17:00 | dwihno | "mobile telephone silly me take a walk" |
| 23:17:02 | dwihno | :-) |
| 23:17:17 | dwihno | that wraps it up quite nicely |
| 23:17:23 | Bagder | hehe |
| 23:17:56 | | Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.1/20020805]") |
| 23:18:00 | dwihno | Human interaction is better than using the mobile phone for communication! :) |
| 23:18:38 | dwihno | take a walk is in every goddamn sentence :) |
| 23:19:29 | Bagder | veeeery advanced AI engine there |
| 23:20:07 | dwihno | I bet it is :) |
| 23:20:13 | dwihno | You should include it in rockbox |
| 23:20:23 | dwihno | when showing the boot screen |
| 23:20:39 | dwihno | "rockbox take a walk assembler MPL mobile phone" |
| 23:20:43 | Bagder | like a fortune cookie |
| 23:20:45 | dwihno | + "pardon me |
| 23:20:58 | | Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) |
| 23:21:30 | Bagder | hm, I should add Rockbox to the words! |
| 23:22:42 | dwihno | Bagder: why didn't you do my laundry? Now I have to get up @ 6.30 tomorrow to do it! :( |
| 23:22:56 | Bagder | ah I forgot |
| 23:23:19 | Bagder | surely you can re-use some of the least dirty ones a few more days? B-P |
| 23:23:32 | dwihno | hehe |
| 23:23:42 | dwihno | I'm not that much of a computer enthusiast ;) |
| 23:23:56 | dwihno | I don't even wear glasses! |
| 23:26:22 | | Nick dwihno is now known as dwihno|zzz (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
| 23:26:30 | dwihno|zzz | I'm off to catch some sleeps0r |
| 23:26:43 | dwihno|zzz | "mobile telephone silly me take a walk" |
| 23:26:57 | Bagder | night dwihno|zzz |
| 23:27:12 | dwihno|zzz | nite |
| 23:27:21 | dwihno|zzz | you should sleep too - another day of work ahead |
| 23:27:22 | dwihno|zzz | of |
| 23:27:23 | dwihno|zzz | you |
| 23:27:31 | Bagder | nah |
| 23:27:44 | Bagder | more bugs to fix, more patches to apply ;-) |
| 23:29:26 | | Join mecraw [0] (mecraw@12-252-105-241.client.attbi.com) |
| 23:34:49 | Zagor | Bagder: if i can't get a screendump function, I at least want the black border to be on all four sides of the screen :-) |
| 23:35:17 | Bagder | it was my intention, I'm not really sure why it isn't |
| 23:35:48 | Zagor | lcd_clear_screen doing one pixel too far? |
| 23:36:00 | Bagder | could be |
| 23:36:41 | * | Bagder digs around |
| 23:38:46 | Zagor | hmmm, didn't I receive player simulator icons before my vacation... |
| 23:38:50 | * | Zagor digs around too |
| 23:40:48 | Bagder | I think it is drawn below the window |
| 23:40:52 | | Quit ripnetuk () |
| 23:41:19 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:41:21 | Bagder | that's it |
| 23:42:24 | Bagder | but... |
| 23:42:38 | Bagder | perhaps we should remove the border all together instead? |
| 23:43:04 | Bagder | or if we keep it, adjust it when we build a player sim |
| 23:55:19 | Zagor | that's a good idea |
| 23:55:38 | Bagder | you mean keep it and resize |
| 23:55:39 | Zagor | is it hard making the whole window smaller for player-sim? |
| 23:55:45 | Bagder | no |
| 23:55:48 | * | Zagor is an x11 clewbie |
| 23:55:55 | Bagder | we #ifdef anyway |
| 23:56:06 | Zagor | that'd be best, i think |
| 23:56:18 | Bagder | "*geometry:120x70", /* this should be .geometry, but nooooo... */ |
| 23:56:29 | Zagor | hehe |
| 23:57:28 | Bagder | ok, so we resize and remove the border then |
| 23:58:38 | Zagor | i kinda like the border... :) |
| 23:58:43 | Bagder | so what about the player "icons", shall I spare 8 pixels above and below to allow us to add them? |
| 23:58:51 | Bagder | ok, border stays then |
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