00:00:43 | Miran | anyone here realise that oxygen free cords are a joke? |
00:01:08 | Miran | although fun to squeeze |
00:01:32 | jmw | oxygen free cords? |
00:01:35 | BoD[] | what are oxygen free cords ? |
00:02:44 | Miran | you know the cable that runs from headphone/ear piece |
00:02:48 | Miran | to the plug at the end? |
00:03:05 | Miran | you can get ones that have a vacume |
00:03:11 | jmw | how does that help |
00:03:27 | Miran | it doesn't :) like much hi fi equipment, its a total farse |
00:03:52 | jmw | well what does it CLAIM.. |
00:04:12 | Miran | oh, lower resistance, improves sound :) |
00:04:20 | jmw | anyone else watching the next generation marathon on TNN? |
00:04:28 | BoD[] | i live in france |
00:04:35 | jmw | i take that as a no |
00:04:42 | BoD[] | right ;)) |
00:05:02 | BoD[] | I have CNN though |
00:05:25 | BoD[] | but it's not the same CNN as in the us I believe, it's "CNN world" or something |
00:05:50 | jmw | just because it has two Ns in it, doesn't mean it's any more likely to be showing star trek either ;) |
00:06:13 | jmw | CNN sucks for one reason... the AOL adverts. |
00:06:21 | jmw | AOL is evil and must be destroyed |
00:06:25 | BoD[] | ahah :) |
00:06:34 | fragglet | cnn is owned by aol |
00:06:46 | BoD[] | yes that's true |
00:06:47 | jmw | i know |
00:07:17 | jmw | i'd rather watch We than CNN |
00:07:23 | BoD[] | is Universal a famous company in the us ? |
00:07:30 | jmw | yeah it is |
00:07:37 | jmw | universal studios and all that |
00:07:43 | BoD[] | ok |
00:07:46 | jmw | why |
00:07:58 | BoD[] | just to know.. cause in france it's big |
00:08:16 | BoD[] | and they say they are in a bad situation, they may be have bankrupt soon |
00:08:38 | jmw | fragglet... do you have anything to do with fraggle rock |
00:08:58 | jmw | bod.. accounting scandel? |
00:09:19 | BoD[] | well no |
00:09:33 | BoD[] | but their hmm |
00:09:54 | BoD[] | hmm |
00:09:58 | jmw | what.. |
00:10:00 | BoD[] | shares |
00:10:04 | BoD[] | are very low |
00:10:06 | jmw | plummeted? |
00:10:09 | jmw | oh i see |
00:10:11 | jmw | do you have any? |
00:10:23 | BoD[] | nop :) |
00:10:26 | BoD[] | fortunately |
00:10:39 | jmw | nothing worth investing in these days |
00:10:51 | jmw | market's too dodgy |
00:11:24 | BoD[] | that's true |
00:11:47 | BoD[] | but anyway i dont like this principle |
00:12:53 | BoD[] | hey the other day my archos fell from about 2 meters |
00:12:59 | BoD[] | and no hurt |
00:13:11 | jmw | was it on at the time? |
00:13:25 | BoD[] | yes |
00:13:53 | jmw | but the hard disk wasn't spinning right |
00:14:18 | BoD[] | hmmm I'm not sure, it was playing music |
00:14:37 | jmw | it only spins like 2 times per song.. and each spin is only like 5 seconds |
00:14:46 | jmw | so probably not.. and that probably saved your hard disk :) |
00:14:53 | Miran | hardest drop I've down, is 1.5 meters, onto marble stairs |
00:14:56 | Miran | works fine :) |
00:15:01 | Miran | down = done |
00:15:05 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
00:15:05 | * | Miran can't spell |
00:15:07 | BoD[] | i'm lucky |
00:15:15 | jmw | did you stomp on it afterwards? |
00:15:21 | BoD[] | aha :) |
00:15:36 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
00:15:54 | jmw | i've never dropped it. of course now i say that i bet i'll drop it tomorrow |
00:16:43 | jmw | marble stairs are expensive |
00:17:10 | * | jmw was shopping for marble last weekend |
00:18:03 | BoD[] | murphy's law |
00:18:15 | Miran | they wern't my stairs :( |
00:18:25 | jmw | a hotel? |
00:18:28 | Miran | Bank |
00:18:37 | BoD[] | well I was shopping for plastic floor ... even that is expensive |
00:18:43 | jmw | ah. who else would have that much money, but those who steal it from you ;) |
00:19:02 | Miran | Well, good thing about banks, they won't go bankrupt :) |
00:28:48 | jmw | anyone seen those new sprint phones that have color LCD displays? |
00:29:29 | BoD[] | I have a gsm phone with color display |
00:29:43 | jmw | who makes it |
00:29:45 | BoD[] | and "real sound" ringing |
00:29:49 | BoD[] | sagem |
00:29:58 | jmw | why do you have a gsm phone... aren't those for traveling around the world |
00:29:59 | jmw | ? |
00:29:59 | BoD[] | it's the my x5 |
00:30:20 | BoD[] | well no all the cell phone are gsm here |
00:30:35 | jmw | really |
00:30:53 | BoD[] | yes :) |
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01:08:57 | Jet8810 | hey |
01:09:03 | Jet8810 | got back from bestbuy |
01:09:06 | Jet8810 | took them an hour |
01:09:07 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:09:20 | jmw | got a recorder? |
01:09:22 | Jet8810 | its 7 here, i was there till 6:45 and they close at 6... |
01:09:24 | Jet8810 | NO |
01:09:26 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:09:30 | Jet8810 | they dont have them in stores |
01:09:30 | jmw | got a player? |
01:09:33 | Jet8810 | just online for ordering |
01:09:33 | jmw | hmmm |
01:09:35 | Jet8810 | hehe |
01:09:41 | Jet8810 | so studio 20gb again |
01:09:47 | Jet8810 | so they tol dme though |
01:09:49 | Jet8810 | if i want recorder |
01:09:53 | Jet8810 | must order online |
01:09:55 | Jet8810 | pay |
01:09:57 | Jet8810 | return this one |
01:10:01 | Jet8810 | and ill get credit or something |
01:10:04 | Jet8810 | screw that |
01:10:10 | jmw | yeah. |
01:10:24 | Jet8810 | so opening up box now...no reason not to break sealing...right? |
01:10:25 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:10:34 | Jet8810 | and dude, i am now scared to reinstall rockbox os |
01:10:39 | Jet8810 | cuz it could very likely happen again |
01:10:44 | jmw | rockbox won't do anything bad |
01:10:53 | jmw | i'd be more worried about the archos firmware :) |
01:10:56 | Jet8810 | HD ERROR |
01:10:59 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:11:03 | Jet8810 | well already locked my ahrd drive |
01:11:05 | jmw | don't think that was rockbox |
01:11:17 | Jet8810 | it said the HD error that everybody speaks so lowly of |
01:11:30 | jmw | mtv2 music video awards SUCKS.. what has happened to mtv |
01:11:44 | jmw | well how old was your player |
01:11:58 | Jet8810 | 1 day |
01:12:02 | Jet8810 | maybe 1 1/2 |
01:12:07 | jmw | musta been faulty |
01:12:12 | Jet8810 | why do you say so? |
01:12:21 | Jet8810 | transfered all my mp3s |
01:12:26 | Jet8810 | all played great |
01:12:29 | jmw | never known it to go wrong after 1 day ;) |
01:12:37 | Jet8810 | left it to charge |
01:12:40 | Jet8810 | came back HD error |
01:12:45 | Jet8810 | hmm |
01:12:46 | Jet8810 | also |
01:12:51 | Jet8810 | is there a slight noise when you turn the unit on? |
01:12:55 | Jet8810 | or might that be a clue? |
01:13:37 | jmw | well only the hard disk noise |
01:13:59 | Jet8810 | yea |
01:14:00 | Jet8810 | alright |
01:14:02 | Jet8810 | thats what i meant |
01:14:03 | Jet8810 | sigh |
01:14:13 | Jet8810 | i may use archso firmware for a little and see if its bearable |
01:14:55 | jmw | could do |
01:15:07 | jmw | rockbox really didn't cause the probs though, i'm sure :) |
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01:16:30 | Jet8810 | heh |
01:16:35 | Jet8810 | i am not sure though |
01:16:40 | Jet8810 | it is a oknown bug with rockbox |
01:16:47 | jmw | HD error? |
01:16:49 | jmw | says who |
01:17:00 | Jet8810 | the faq |
01:17:45 | jmw | hmmm where |
01:17:46 | Jet8810 | hmm |
01:17:49 | jmw | lemme see |
01:17:50 | Jet8810 | different error message |
01:18:39 | Jet8810 | . I tried one of your firmware files and now I can't access my harddisk! |
01:18:40 | Jet8810 | When I turn on my jukebox, it says: |
01:18:40 | Jet8810 | Part. Error |
01:18:40 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Jet8810 |
01:18:40 | Jet8810 | Pls Chck HD |
01:18:42 | Jet8810 | i got HD Error |
01:20:22 | jmw | that's because of the hard disk getting password protected... it's not the same as HD Error |
01:20:29 | Jet8810 | hmm |
01:20:31 | Jet8810 | perhaps your right |
01:20:33 | jmw | getting an HD Error is *not* a known issue |
01:20:39 | Jet8810 | hehe |
01:20:41 | jmw | password protected HD is easy to get around |
01:20:58 | Jet8810 | nah |
01:21:01 | Jet8810 | gotta open up unit and shit |
01:21:04 | Jet8810 | unless you have linux |
01:21:09 | Jet8810 | more a reason to install linux i suppose |
01:21:27 | Jet8810 | do ya have a mandrake iso by any chance? |
01:21:34 | Jet8810 | (dcc is far faster then ftp download) |
01:22:07 | jmw | mandrake? doubt it.. |
01:22:15 | jmw | got win2k here |
01:22:24 | Jet8810 | heh |
01:22:29 | Jet8810 | could ya dcc that to me/? |
01:22:35 | Jet8810 | upgrade or full version? |
01:22:47 | jmw | full version |
01:22:53 | jmw | you want me to DCC WINDOWS 2000 TO YOU??!!! |
01:22:59 | Jet8810 | lol how big is the file? |
01:23:01 | jmw | crazy fool |
01:23:05 | Jet8810 | why? |
01:23:06 | Jet8810 | i am on dsl |
01:23:07 | BoD[] | ahhaa :) |
01:23:12 | jmw | 500Mb or something |
01:23:17 | jmw | dunno, don't have the cd handy |
01:23:20 | Jet8810 | wont take more then two hours |
01:23:31 | Jet8810 | please? |
01:23:32 | Jet8810 | :) |
01:23:34 | jmw | what do you want exactly |
01:23:43 | Jet8810 | win2k |
01:23:47 | Jet8810 | and a code too if possible :-p |
01:23:59 | jmw | win2k doesn't need a code actually |
01:24:08 | jmw | well my version doesn't anyway |
01:24:15 | BoD[] | anywayyyyy i have to go to bed |
01:24:19 | BoD[] | see you ! bye |
01:24:21 | jmw | i don't have the cd today... lent it to someone |
01:24:23 | jmw | bye bod |
01:24:32 | Jet8810 | NO!!!!!! |
01:24:40 | Jet8810 | Don't worry about it. Don't return it to Best Buy. If you have the Player off |
01:24:41 | Jet8810 | while you charge it, after a decently long amount of time, it will display HD |
01:24:41 | Jet8810 | Error for no apparent reason. All you have to do is hold the stop button to |
01:24:41 | Jet8810 | turn it off. Also, if you have the Player ON when you charge it, this doesn't |
01:24:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
01:24:41 | Jet8810 | happen. There's really no error in the HD, it just says there is :-) |
01:24:41 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
01:24:41 | Jet8810 | I freaked out the first time I saw that also. |
01:24:43 | Jet8810 | -Justin |
01:24:46 | Jet8810 | roflmao |
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01:25:16 | jmw | you didn't try HOLDING THE OFF BUTTON DOWN?????????? |
01:25:27 | Jet8810 | i think so |
01:25:29 | Jet8810 | pretty sure |
01:25:36 | jmw | you have to hold it down for like 3 seconds |
01:25:39 | jmw | it requires patience |
01:25:42 | jmw | :) |
01:25:42 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:25:48 | Jet8810 | i am really no tsure though |
01:25:52 | Jet8810 | dude |
01:25:57 | Jet8810 | I HAVE THE WORST FUCKIN LUCK EVER |
01:26:04 | jmw | oh well.. you got another one now |
01:26:11 | Jet8810 | not only this |
01:26:12 | Jet8810 | everything |
01:26:13 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:26:16 | jmw | at least it got you out of the house ;) |
01:26:18 | Jet8810 | tried to sell a gps, broke on me |
01:26:24 | Jet8810 | sent it in to pretec, had them ship it straight to buyer |
01:26:26 | Jet8810 | still broken |
01:26:29 | Jet8810 | sending it back |
01:26:30 | jmw | sell a gps? |
01:26:31 | Jet8810 | i got to pay him back |
01:26:32 | Jet8810 | whole ordeal |
01:26:34 | Jet8810 | cf gps |
01:26:46 | jmw | hmmm |
01:26:49 | jmw | cf? |
01:26:52 | Jet8810 | and now pretec is ignoring my emails |
01:26:54 | Jet8810 | compact flash |
01:26:57 | Jet8810 | in pdas and such |
01:26:59 | jmw | really? |
01:27:01 | jmw | i want one of those |
01:27:04 | Jet8810 | yea |
01:27:05 | jmw | how much did you sell it for |
01:27:06 | Jet8810 | im obsessed |
01:27:09 | Jet8810 | havent sold it yet |
01:27:11 | Jet8810 | still broken |
01:27:11 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:27:15 | jmw | hmmm |
01:27:22 | jmw | does it work on a pocketpc? |
01:27:53 | Jet8810 | certainly |
01:27:54 | jmw | ohhh you just gave me an idea for my upcoming road trip... what was the make |
01:27:55 | Jet8810 | well |
01:27:58 | Jet8810 | not now |
01:27:59 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:28:00 | Jet8810 | pretec |
01:28:02 | jmw | hehe |
01:28:03 | Jet8810 | but dont buy theirs |
01:28:03 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:28:08 | jmw | hmmm |
01:28:14 | jmw | so who should i get it from |
01:28:25 | Jet8810 | not sure who else makes em |
01:28:28 | Jet8810 | search on ebay |
01:28:38 | jmw | hmmm |
01:28:42 | jmw | for GPS and compactflash? |
01:28:45 | Jet8810 | dude, i still gotta sell this 2.0 pci lol |
01:28:50 | jmw | lemme look |
01:28:54 | Jet8810 | "cf gps" |
01:28:54 | jmw | usb? |
01:29:00 | Jet8810 | yep |
01:29:04 | Jet8810 | cuz i dont got a recorder |
01:29:07 | jmw | ah yeah |
01:29:13 | jmw | you should get a recorder |
01:29:17 | jmw | it'll make it more worthwhile |
01:29:20 | Jet8810 | now |
01:29:22 | jmw | life, that is |
01:29:23 | Jet8810 | how do ya reckon I do that? |
01:29:24 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:29:39 | Jet8810 | i only paid $70 for this studio so im happy |
01:29:40 | jmw | get that credit BB told you about |
01:29:43 | jmw | oh really |
01:29:48 | Jet8810 | i end up losing $300 though |
01:29:48 | Jet8810 | yea |
01:29:54 | jmw | that's only about 200 bucks short of a recorder |
01:29:56 | Jet8810 | see I paid $230 for the 6gb nomad jukebox a year ago |
01:30:05 | Jet8810 | bestbuy warrantee |
01:30:11 | Jet8810 | so i took it in an dpaid cdifference to upgrade |
01:30:18 | Jet8810 | $70 is a hell of a difference from $270 |
01:30:43 | Jet8810 | and it really isnt worth $270 to gain more text and usb 2.0 |
01:30:49 | jmw | hmmm |
01:30:51 | jmw | you get tetris too |
01:30:54 | Jet8810 | rofl |
01:30:55 | Jet8810 | i got a pda :) |
01:31:01 | Jet8810 | with 40 games |
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01:31:12 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno |
01:31:15 | dwihno | Good evening |
01:31:18 | jmw | yeah but doesn't the archos weigh enough by itself.. without the pda |
01:31:25 | Jet8810 | pfft |
01:31:34 | Jet8810 | i dont carry the archos everywhere really |
01:31:36 | Jet8810 | at least not yet |
01:31:38 | Jet8810 | too big to do that |
01:31:42 | jmw | i don't like lifting weights while playing tetris |
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01:31:44 | * | dwihno carries the archos everywhere |
01:31:45 | jmw | too big? |
01:31:48 | jmw | look at the nomad |
01:31:55 | Jet8810 | nomad was still lighter though |
01:32:03 | Jet8810 | and see its weird |
01:32:06 | Jet8810 | nomad was size of a cd player |
01:32:10 | Jet8810 | so i held it like a cd player |
01:32:17 | Jet8810 | put it in bag, ect |
01:32:31 | Jet8810 | but this is size of a small mp3, so i want to carry it in my pocket |
01:32:33 | jmw | it's good for women |
01:32:36 | jmw | coz they have handbags |
01:32:48 | Jet8810 | yet a little big..yet not quite big enough to handle as i did the jukebox |
01:32:48 | Jet8810 | true |
01:32:54 | jmw | us MEN don't carry bags everywhere we go |
01:33:04 | Jet8810 | hehe good point |
01:33:06 | Jet8810 | i carry pda in pocket |
01:33:07 | jmw | i can put the archos in my shirt pocket |
01:33:11 | jmw | i look a little weird but it works |
01:33:17 | Jet8810 | I COULD put it on my belt |
01:33:19 | Jet8810 | or put my pda in belt |
01:33:20 | Jet8810 | but nah |
01:33:23 | Jet8810 | this thing is an inch thick |
01:33:25 | Jet8810 | cargo shorts |
01:33:29 | jmw | not in the holder it gives you |
01:33:34 | jmw | that's just embarassing to wear |
01:33:40 | Jet8810 | i cant bring this to school...at least not practically |
01:33:41 | Jet8810 | haha |
01:33:47 | jmw | why not? |
01:33:50 | Jet8810 | i wore my pda at my hip (then again in a fine leather case) |
01:33:51 | jmw | someone will steal it? |
01:33:53 | Jet8810 | too big |
01:33:55 | Jet8810 | well perhaps |
01:33:59 | Jet8810 | but i bring my pda to school |
01:34:02 | Jet8810 | small private school |
01:34:04 | jmw | archos is too big?? |
01:34:07 | jmw | how can it be too big |
01:34:42 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
01:34:47 | jmw | i wish they put a CF reader in the archos so you can expand the cache, transfer pictures and stuff |
01:35:22 | Jet8810 | heh |
01:35:27 | Jet8810 | too big to carry around with me at school |
01:35:31 | Jet8810 | no cargo shorts allowed at school |
01:35:38 | Jet8810 | so imagine this in a khaki shorts pocket |
01:35:38 | jmw | what about these people http://www.transplantcomputing.com/mof15/gps.htm |
01:35:43 | Jet8810 | theirs is good |
01:35:47 | dwihno | stupid clothing rules huh? |
01:35:53 | Jet8810 | hehe yea |
01:35:57 | Jet8810 | if it was cargo wouldnt be a problem |
01:36:04 | jmw | hmmm |
01:36:33 | Jet8810 | now |
01:36:50 | Jet8810 | should I let my st udio charge for an hour then use it while its plugged in (first charge) or should I let it go for its 6 hours? |
01:37:12 | jmw | i think anything is fine but over charging it |
01:37:25 | dwihno | Jet8810: buy a MD case then... Some of the cases are big enough to fit the player |
01:37:28 | Jet8810 | not like i should really leave it alone for the 6 hours? |
01:37:36 | Jet8810 | wdihno why? |
01:37:39 | Jet8810 | even without a case its too big |
01:38:11 | dwihno | Jet8810: well, do you think you can find a HD based mp3 player which is smaller? :) |
01:38:27 | Jet8810 | ipod |
01:38:28 | dwihno | perhaps the MINE is small enough? |
01:38:42 | jmw | ipod sucks |
01:38:47 | Jet8810 | ipod is significantly smaller |
01:38:48 | Jet8810 | nah |
01:38:54 | Jet8810 | ipod is far superior, but far too expensive |
01:38:58 | jmw | is it though? it's thinner... not smaller |
01:39:07 | Jet8810 | well thinner is all i need |
01:39:07 | jmw | well smaller too |
01:39:08 | Jet8810 | :) |
01:39:14 | jmw | but more thinner than.. you get the ide |
01:39:15 | jmw | a |
01:39:15 | dwihno | hmm, the MINE is 1" thick too |
01:39:15 | Jet8810 | thinness is what really matters in a pocket |
01:39:26 | Jet8810 | heh |
01:39:27 | jmw | dwihno.. i really didn't need to know that |
01:39:31 | Jet8810 | ipod is .75 inches i think |
01:40:24 | jmw | what processor does the ipod have |
01:40:37 | dwihno | I'd guess some motorola stuff |
01:40:47 | jmw | not SH? |
01:40:52 | dwihno | ARM something |
01:40:55 | jmw | hmmm |
01:41:01 | jmw | prolly better than 12mhz too |
01:41:01 | dwihno | 133 MHz ARM 7TDMI |
01:41:04 | jmw | eek |
01:41:08 | Jet8810 | haha |
01:41:09 | Jet8810 | yea |
01:41:12 | Jet8810 | ipod is superior :) |
01:41:17 | jmw | why do they need all that power |
01:41:22 | jmw | does it do software decoding? |
01:41:44 | jmw | that might explain the size of it |
01:41:50 | dwihno | 32 meg DRAM :-) |
01:41:59 | jmw | really? |
01:42:00 | jmw | damnit |
01:42:13 | jmw | do they do a 20gb yet? |
01:42:38 | dwihno | You could probably switch the drive by yourself |
01:43:08 | jmw | upgradable firmware? |
01:43:56 | dwihno | probably |
01:44:01 | dwihno | firewire though |
01:44:10 | jmw | i like firewire |
01:44:11 | Jet8810 | yea |
01:44:12 | jmw | what's wrong with it |
01:44:14 | Jet8810 | they got 20 gb |
01:44:16 | Jet8810 | but its $500 |
01:44:22 | Jet8810 | which is why i got archos instead |
01:44:24 | jmw | ooo pricey |
01:44:28 | jmw | hmmm.. |
01:45:10 | dwihno | Is it possible to make the unit thinner? |
01:45:15 | dwihno | I mean, 1" is quite much |
01:45:39 | jmw | the archos? |
01:45:51 | dwihno | yea |
01:46:08 | jmw | prolly all the cheapo chips they use are bigger |
01:48:30 | Jet8810 | hehe |
01:48:35 | Jet8810 | i lke the cheapo chips |
01:48:36 | Jet8810 | so leave it |
01:48:42 | Jet8810 | makes it much cheaper |
01:48:47 | Jet8810 | even the creative 20gb one is $400 |
01:49:36 | jmw | nomad has all those sound processing chips.. for reverb and all that |
01:51:06 | Jet8810 | yea |
01:51:15 | Jet8810 | my old 6 gb nomad was actually pretty good |
01:51:31 | Jet8810 | archos is pretty good too, but in a completely different way |
01:53:11 | jmw | what way |
01:54:41 | Jet8810 | cheap, easy to send over files |
01:54:44 | Jet8810 | easy to set up |
01:54:53 | Jet8810 | and the way in which things are organized is different |
01:54:56 | Jet8810 | not quite accustomed to it |
01:55:07 | jmw | it doesn't act as a HD tho right.. when you plug it in |
01:55:10 | Jet8810 | on jukebox i could sort by album, artist, ect, but I had to transfer all my stuff via their software |
01:55:17 | jmw | i like the way the archos just mounts as a drive |
01:55:18 | Jet8810 | not the jukebox |
01:55:21 | Jet8810 | right |
01:55:24 | Jet8810 | i am getting used to that |
01:55:37 | Jet8810 | with jukebox i could make queue lists easily too |
01:55:40 | Jet8810 | on this it is much ahrder |
01:55:41 | Jet8810 | harder |
01:57:01 | jmw | yeah |
01:57:05 | jmw | but rockbox could fix that :) |
01:57:22 | Jet8810 | haha |
01:57:31 | Jet8810 | dude |
01:57:34 | Jet8810 | archos firmware sucks ass :) |
01:57:59 | jmw | it's all a matter of time |
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01:59:35 | Jet8810 | rockbox asap |
01:59:35 | Jet8810 | lol |
01:59:58 | jmw | thought you said you had dsl |
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02:00:06 | jmw | why you having so many connx probs |
02:01:08 | jmw | oh well i gotta wash dishes.. bbl |
02:01:10 | Jet8810 | aw |
02:01:12 | Jet8810 | cuz its bellsouth |
02:01:22 | jmw | get cable instead |
02:01:28 | jmw | laters |
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02:01:54 | Jet8810 | w/e |
02:01:57 | Jet8810 | i know the problem |
02:02:02 | Jet8810 | and blelsouth is bgonna fix it on tues |
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04:03:35 | RedLeg | Greetz.... |
04:04:12 | RedLeg | Anybody up for a (non-electronic) hardware question? |
04:04:45 | RedLeg | Or should I have asked first, Anybody Up (awake)? |
04:06:40 | PsycoXul | what other kinda hardware is there? :p |
04:08:08 | RedLeg | One of my dawgs got ahold of the JR20 while we were at dinner tonight. I am now in need of one of the BRFs (Blue Rubber Feet). |
04:08:25 | RedLeg | Are there replacements available? |
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05:55:11 | datazone | "dawgs?" |
05:55:40 | datazone | one of your "peeps" or your "niggas" |
05:56:22 | fragglet | yo peace werd up homiez |
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06:18:59 | RedLeg | dawgs := dogs |
06:19:28 | RedLeg | As in "the dog ate my homework" |
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07:42:34 | MeRWiN | anyone around? |
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08:07:23 | Hes | jooh |
08:08:16 | MeRWiN | heya hes |
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08:19:37 | Bagder | morning |
08:19:46 | MeRWiN | heya bag |
08:20:07 | MeRWiN | found an error in the resume code |
08:20:28 | Bagder | oh, good work! ;-) |
08:21:42 | MeRWiN | I was updating the wps code and found that id3->index doesn't get ++'d if it has more than 1 track in the buffer (ie: a 30 second song) |
08:23:39 | Bagder | I'm not that into how the resume stuff works, that's mostly Zagor's stuff |
08:24:08 | MeRWiN | me neither :) |
08:26:21 | MeRWiN | I added that feature request for a 1 line id3 display on the player (PlaylistPos: Artist - Title) and the time underneath... the only problem is that I had to re-arrange the WPS menu on the player (the option is only available on the player, since all the info is available on the recorder in plain view anyways). This will require people with players to reset their WPS setting the first time. Think it matters? |
08:27:34 | Bagder | how do they reset that setting and what happens if they don't? |
08:28:43 | MeRWiN | well, for instance. In the WPS menu there is now "1 Line ID3", "2 Line ID3", "File ", "Parse ". There used to only be "ID3 Tags", "File ", "Parse ". So if you had it set to "File", when the player was started up with the new firmware it would load as 2 Line ID3 :) All you have to do is change it in the menu and it's set for good. |
08:31:23 | Bagder | I see |
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08:32:02 | MeRWiN | It's the only way I see to implement this though :) |
08:32:09 | bobTHC | good morning ! |
08:32:14 | MeRWiN | morning crackhead |
08:32:17 | Bagder | I would rather have the code detect that an old setting was used and reset that to default... but this system doesn't allow that easily |
08:32:45 | MeRWiN | Bagder: we need to add a byte in the saved settings for a version lablel. |
08:32:51 | MeRWiN | label rather |
08:32:59 | Bagder | well we do I think |
08:33:19 | Bagder | "version byte" |
08:34:31 | MeRWiN | Have the code check the version byte and if it's <= 1.2, reset the wps to 0 |
08:35:54 | Bagder | the version byte in the config is not really bound to our release versions and is only an increasing number, now at 1 |
08:36:04 | MeRWiN | OK, increase it to 2 then :) |
08:36:05 | Bagder | and if it differs, it resets all settings to default I believe |
08:36:10 | MeRWiN | hmmm |
08:36:18 | Bagder | which is a drawback in this case |
08:37:42 | MeRWiN | Personally, I think that if people have spent the time to change the WPS setting in the first place, they'll know how to change it back :) It's only 5 or so keypresses. |
08:38:20 | MeRWiN | If it's at 0 already, then the new 0 still shows the same ID3 info, and more. |
08:38:36 | Bagder | hm, that might be right yes |
08:38:41 | MeRWiN | So it won't really affect people that haven't customized |
08:38:51 | Bagder | and it doesn't crash or anything, just don't show the same info |
08:39:19 | Bagder | it should however be noted in the upcoming release-notes of course, if this goes into the source |
08:39:28 | MeRWiN | yeah... definately should be noted |
08:40:27 | Bagder | I'm hoping for a 1.3 release this week |
08:40:31 | MeRWiN | The new 0 (1 line id3 display) is actually a more preferred display than the 2 line id3 display, so it's a good default. Shows all the id3 info and the time instead of just id3 |
08:40:34 | MeRWiN | 1.3 this week? nice :) |
08:40:56 | MeRWiN | you have a recorder? |
08:40:59 | Bagder | yes |
08:41:14 | MeRWiN | wanna test out the patch really quick and make sure it doesn't screw anything up on the recorder? |
08:41:52 | Bagder | well, I don't have any usb where I am now so I could only try out the build with it, not try it "in action" |
08:42:02 | MeRWiN | ahh |
08:42:07 | Bagder | and I guess you can try the build yourself too ;-) |
08:42:10 | MeRWiN | yeah :) |
08:42:25 | * | Bagder is at work |
08:42:39 | MeRWiN | You sure get alot of work done, huh? |
08:42:51 | Bagder | eeeh... well sometimes I do ;-] |
08:42:59 | MeRWiN | same here |
08:43:27 | Bagder | I'm in a pretty relaxed project right now so I can pretty much do as I please |
08:43:46 | MeRWiN | ahhh... i like it when that happens |
08:48:34 | Bagder | hm |
08:48:40 | Bagder | I can't make it resume at all on my recorder |
08:48:45 | MeRWiN | ouch |
08:48:51 | Bagder | it doesn't resume when I press play after the q |
08:49:07 | Hes | The config revision was increased from 0 to 1 after 1.2's release, so the new default for wps will apply if people upgrade from 1.2 to 1.3 |
08:49:08 | MeRWiN | Bagder: does MENU+LEFT and MENU+RIGHT work on the recorder? I noticed some code in the WPS that would seem to make it not work |
08:49:36 | Hes | it won't apply if people have gone to CVS versions after the revision++ |
08:50:08 | Bagder | MeRWiN: you mean fast forward and backward? there's no MENU button on recorders ;-) |
08:50:23 | MeRWiN | no, volume... or is there built in volume buttons? |
08:50:44 | Bagder | ah volume is simply up and down on the recorder |
08:50:49 | Bagder | in the wps |
08:50:54 | Bagder | and it works fine |
08:52:05 | MeRWiN | okey |
08:52:27 | MeRWiN | that is why MENU+LEFT/RIGHT is ifdef'd then |
08:52:38 | Bagder | yes |
08:52:40 | MeRWiN | ok |
08:59:20 | Bagder | ok, resume doesn't work correctly if I enable it while already playing a playlist |
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09:00:54 | MeRWiN | heya adi |
09:01:01 | Bagder | we're reaching an adi overflow here soon ;-) |
09:01:08 | adi|dads | heheheh |
09:01:19 | adi|dads | MeRWiN im going to have to cancel on you this week |
09:01:24 | MeRWiN | adi|dads: durn |
09:01:25 | adi|dads | i won't be in the area |
09:01:29 | * | adi|dads nods |
09:01:40 | adi|dads | life decided to ass rape me... |
09:01:44 | MeRWiN | really? |
09:01:46 | adi|dads | but atleast it was gentle |
09:01:47 | MeRWiN | how so |
09:01:47 | * | adi|dads nods |
09:02:01 | adi|dads | gf and i were at my fathers for the wkend |
09:02:04 | adi|dads | drove to the beach |
09:02:13 | adi|dads | enroute, i banged up her car |
09:02:21 | adi|dads | its not drivable and is at a body shop |
09:02:25 | MeRWiN | adi|dads: what did you hit? |
09:02:27 | adi|dads | so i gave her mine till its repaired |
09:02:31 | adi|dads | a BMW |
09:02:33 | MeRWiN | ouch |
09:02:34 | adi|dads | he stopped |
09:02:37 | adi|dads | neither of us saw it |
09:02:38 | MeRWiN | that's going to be hell on insurance |
09:02:45 | adi|dads | i hit it doing ~ 30-45 |
09:02:48 | * | adi|dads nods |
09:02:55 | MeRWiN | adi|dads: that'll crunch the bimmer |
09:03:07 | adi|dads | actually he didn't get much damage |
09:03:10 | MeRWiN | what do you drive? |
09:03:29 | adi|dads | i hit the brakes in time, skidded for 20 ft or so, then -wHam- (c) |
09:03:39 | adi|dads | her car is a hyundai elantra |
09:03:45 | adi|dads | talk about 'crumple zone' |
09:03:53 | adi|dads | but the good news is 1. no one hurt |
09:03:55 | MeRWiN | ouch. hyundai's are about as bad as Geos for crunch. |
09:03:58 | adi|dads | 2. its repairable |
09:04:13 | adi|dads | 3. airbags didn't go off.. so no replacement needed |
09:04:22 | MeRWiN | I had a geo storm and rear-ended a bus going about 20 (didn't realise it was stopped in the middle of the road). totaled the car :) |
09:04:35 | MeRWiN | airbags didn't go off? i'd sue :) |
09:05:41 | adi|dads | hehehe |
09:05:48 | adi|dads | no... it was an off center crash |
09:05:56 | adi|dads | im just assuming the impact wasn't hard enough |
09:06:12 | adi|dads | but needless to say, im trapped at my father's till its repaired |
09:06:26 | adi|dads | and im going to pay the diff. of her increased insurance |
09:06:37 | MeRWiN | well, just look at it this way... it's more quality time with your father |
09:06:43 | adi|dads | lol |
09:06:48 | adi|dads | i feel trapped already |
09:07:12 | MeRWiN | cars are a great thing to have when visiting parents |
09:07:14 | adi|dads | add to that that the nausea of the 'oh shit i realy fucked up' hasn't gone away ;) |
09:07:33 | MeRWiN | after the first 3 or 4 wrecks, you get used to it. trust me |
09:07:33 | MeRWiN | heh |
09:07:46 | adi|dads | hehehehe this is about my... hmmmm.. 5th? |
09:07:53 | adi|dads | its just diff cause its my gf's car |
09:08:01 | MeRWiN | yeah. I understand that |
09:08:06 | adi|dads | sighs |
09:08:14 | adi|dads | so ill have to ask for a raincheck mate ;) |
09:08:20 | MeRWiN | sounds good. |
09:08:35 | MeRWiN | I'm sure I'll be back there fairly soon |
09:08:38 | adi|dads | but if you want, ill still check with a few friends up there and see if they can recommend any restaurants for ya... |
09:08:41 | * | adi|dads nods |
09:09:11 | MeRWiN | I'm sure we can find something up there |
09:09:33 | adi|dads | k... |
09:10:08 | MeRWiN | Bagder: so, I guess my update is OK, since the settings will get reset with 1.3 anyways |
09:10:26 | Bagder | MeRWiN: indeed |
09:10:44 | MeRWiN | good to hear |
09:11:07 | adi|dads | interesting.. we got a 'i don't use it, it doesn't do everything i need' on the pole... |
09:12:02 | MeRWiN | Wow. How can it not do everything you need? the only thing it doesn't do is recursive playlists... well, that and make breakfast |
09:12:42 | Bagder | you can't edit the playlists, just to mention one thing |
09:13:03 | Bagder | and he might have a recorder and we can record yet |
09:13:13 | adi|dads | nods |
09:13:23 | adi|dads | but i like this quote in the messages: In the tradition of the Rockbox people, they have the |
09:13:23 | adi|dads | problem solved by the time you get around to complain |
09:13:23 | adi|dads | about it. |
09:13:32 | adi|dads | lol |
09:13:37 | Bagder | :-) |
09:15:09 | adi|dads | okay.. im going to try and sleep some... see you guys tomorrow.. |
09:15:10 | adi|dads | nite |
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09:28:22 | MeRWiN | Bagder: how do you commit more than one file at once? |
09:28:38 | Bagder | line them up on the command line |
09:28:46 | Bagder | or just 'ci' in the dir to commit them all that are changed |
09:29:02 | Bagder | uh, 'ci' or 'commit' |
09:29:25 | MeRWiN | line them up on the command line? as in cvs commit -m "blah blah" file1.c file2.c |
09:29:30 | Bagder | yes |
09:29:34 | MeRWiN | ok... |
09:29:50 | Bagder | the same comment applies to all files then of course |
09:30:19 | MeRWiN | yeah... That's what I'm lookin' for |
09:31:25 | MeRWiN | an and in an if statement is &&, right? |
09:31:26 | MeRWiN | :) |
09:31:38 | Bagder | yes |
09:31:46 | Bagder | logical and |
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09:38:06 | Bagder | morning matsl |
09:38:12 | matsl | morrn |
09:38:15 | MeRWiN | what's wrong with this: |
09:38:16 | MeRWiN | if(id3->artist == "" && id3->title == "") |
09:38:44 | Bagder | they're pointers, they don't equal "" |
09:39:00 | MeRWiN | how would I check for empty string? |
09:39:16 | Bagder | use strcmp() or check if the first byte is zero |
09:39:39 | Bagder | if((id3->artist[0] == 0) && ... |
09:39:46 | MeRWiN | ahh... k |
09:40:09 | Bagder | but |
09:40:19 | Bagder | I believe id3->artist is NULL unless set |
09:40:30 | Bagder | so... |
09:40:48 | Bagder | if(!id3->artist && !id3->title) |
09:40:50 | Bagder | is good enough |
09:40:55 | MeRWiN | simple enough |
09:42:37 | MeRWiN | ouch... !id3->artist makes the player crash :) |
09:44:42 | Bagder | hm |
09:44:44 | MeRWiN | out of curiosity, what does id3->artist?id3->artist:"<no artist>" do, and can it be useful in this problem? |
09:44:51 | MeRWiN | I know what it does, but what does the ? and : mean |
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09:45:06 | Bagder | (condition)?if true:if false; |
09:45:26 | MeRWiN | wow, that's about as condensed as perl :) |
09:45:45 | Bagder | hehe |
09:46:09 | Bagder | just use a couple of nested of these conditional ones and it'll become a real mess ;-) |
09:46:24 | MeRWiN | so, really, !id3->artist should be fine |
09:46:46 | Bagder | I think it should |
09:46:54 | Bagder | I can't see why it isn't |
09:47:02 | MeRWiN | must be my code then :) |
09:48:57 | MeRWiN | yup, found my problem. |
09:50:59 | Bagder | MeRWiN: I think Hardeep's patch should fix that resume problem with multiple buffers in memory |
09:51:08 | MeRWiN | has it been commited? |
09:51:12 | Bagder | no |
09:51:13 | MeRWiN | ahh |
09:51:29 | MeRWiN | i thought it had been commited by now |
09:51:30 | Bagder | I leave that to Zagor, as uber-resume-meister |
09:51:39 | MeRWiN | :) |
09:51:53 | MeRWiN | Is there a variable for just the filename, not the whole path? |
09:52:15 | Bagder | in the id3 info struct you mean? |
09:52:43 | MeRWiN | anywhere accessable in the wps |
09:52:45 | MeRWiN | wps.c |
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10:00:26 | MeRWiN | nevermind... id3->path is just that |
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10:03:18 | MeRWiN | woo. made "smart" id3 display. shows the filename if there's no id3 available. |
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10:24:38 | Bagder | MeRWiN: any thoughts on Brian King's WPS file parse patch? |
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10:28:38 | Zagor | morning, guys |
10:29:05 | Bagder | morning Z |
10:29:14 | Bagder | I had a resume problem this morning |
10:29:24 | Zagor | ok, what happened? |
10:29:37 | Bagder | I loaded a playlist, enabled resume, pressed pause, and then OFF |
10:29:49 | Bagder | booted up, got the Q, pressed play... |
10:29:54 | Bagder | ... and nothing happened |
10:30:07 | Zagor | odd |
10:30:10 | Bagder | rebooted again, and it turned out the same |
10:30:31 | Bagder | then I loaded the playlist again (with resume already enabled), and remade the whole thing and it worked nicely |
10:31:30 | Zagor | ah. you enabled resume _after_ you loaded the first playlist? |
10:31:36 | Bagder | yes |
10:31:46 | Bagder | I didn't realize it was an option ;-) |
10:32:03 | Zagor | the playlist name is only stored when loading the list. that's why it bugged. |
10:32:31 | Bagder | ah, I thought it would be something like that |
10:32:44 | Bagder | it needs to be fixed |
10:32:54 | Zagor | yes |
10:33:26 | Bagder | btw, I didn't do anything with the Hardeep patch, I think you're the man to deal with it |
10:33:36 | Zagor | yes, I will. |
10:46:07 | Zagor | Bagder: you know you can get the yahoo mails delivered to you haxx address? |
10:46:15 | Bagder | I know |
10:46:28 | Bagder | I just rather read them on the forum at will |
10:46:43 | Bagder | I already drown in mails ;-) |
10:46:53 | Zagor | ok. your posts just look a bit anonymous without your real name on them |
10:46:56 | Hadaka | gnus is nice ;) |
10:47:07 | Bagder | Zagor: I know ;-) |
10:47:29 | Bagder | well, its not really a client problem as I see it |
10:47:43 | Bagder | I like my 14 inboxes with pine |
10:48:07 | Zagor | Hadaka: how do you mean gnus handle big volumes better than eg pine or mutt? |
10:49:03 | Hadaka | well Gnus is made for to be a newsreader - and newsreaders usually have to deal with huge volumes and lots of groups - so almost everything suits very well for that |
10:49:16 | Hadaka | scoring is the best I've seen in any mailer yet |
10:50:34 | Hadaka | I'm not saying that you can't handle big volumes with mutt - just that I find it immensely easier with gnus |
10:51:47 | * | Bagder is about register yet another project on sourceforge... |
10:54:13 | * | Zagor grabs some breakfast |
11:00 |
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11:09:25 | Bagder | the player wps info is certainly a debatable issue ;-) |
11:11:19 | Zagor | yes.. |
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11:26:23 | Lowfiler | heya |
11:26:40 | Bagder | morning Lowfiler |
11:27:45 | Lowfiler | morning |
11:33:58 | matsl | It would be nice to have lots of different mp3-files to test with. maybe a complete filesystem. Could we produce such a thing? Copyright problems? |
11:35:13 | Zagor | copyright would probably be a problem. we could use freely distributed files (such as our eternal test band Machinae Supremacy) to at least lessen the risk of complaints |
11:36:11 | Bagder | I wonder if there is any 90 mins low-quality freely available mp3s ;-) |
11:36:28 | Zagor | yeah.. |
11:37:05 | Bagder | I'm pretty sure it is an overflow in the math for those |
11:37:12 | Zagor | I have put a couple of different bitrate versions of machiae's "Giana Sisters" here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mp3/ |
11:37:28 | matsl | You could record the discussion at snaxx ... |
11:37:48 | Bagder | I guess anyone can record just noise for N mins |
11:37:53 | Bagder | could work |
11:38:24 | matsl | What about a test module in CVS with mp3s |
11:38:35 | Zagor | nah, too big |
11:38:55 | Zagor | they would also change very very rarely, so a web site is just as good |
11:38:58 | Bagder | cvs is crap for that sort of thing, it's better to have a set on the site |
11:39:40 | matsl | ok. But CVS makes it easier to add a new testfile. |
11:39:50 | Bagder | very true |
11:41:34 | Zagor | we have some really odd bygs reported now... |
11:42:44 | Bagder | Zagor: try the "submit new bug report" page now |
11:42:54 | Zagor | Bagder: how is your ping against contactor? |
11:43:05 | Bagder | crap |
11:43:20 | Bagder | major crap really |
11:43:30 | Zagor | good. so it's not me. I've notified Jon. |
11:43:35 | Bagder | round-trip min/avg/max = 720.060/963.555/1196.290 ms |
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11:43:43 | Zagor | yeah, about the same here |
11:43:50 | Bagder | from home that is |
11:44:19 | Zagor | 9 kst29.fasteth0-0.swip.net (130.244.198.218) 16.056 ms 15.976 ms 16.578 ms10 contact1-gw.swip.net (130.244.22.18) 815.177 ms 790.283 ms 818.161 ms |
11:44:30 | Zagor | definitely C being choked |
11:44:45 | Bagder | yeps |
11:45:07 | Bagder | but it is before our router, its the Tele2 router |
11:45:16 | Bagder | try ping contact1-gw.swip.net |
11:45:42 | Zagor | but that one's after the 2Mbit limiter, I think |
11:45:56 | Bagder | hm, might be |
11:55:20 | matp | just trying the resume functionality. 2 things. |
11:55:33 | matp | 1 should we have an auto resume feature? |
11:55:54 | matp | 2 i have recorder. is it supposed to do mid-song resume? |
11:56:25 | Zagor | what is auto resume? |
11:56:36 | Zagor | 2. yes |
11:57:27 | matp | when it boots up, it asks me whether I want to resume. Should we have a boolean flag in the menu which will automatically resume without asking me the question. |
11:57:48 | matp | 2. it doesn't |
11:57:58 | Zagor | yeah, maybe. I was thinking having resume be off/on/ask. |
11:58:08 | matp | exactly. good idea |
11:58:16 | Zagor | how do you test mid-song resume on your recorder |
11:58:17 | Zagor | ? |
11:58:42 | matp | i tried pause, then off, then on. i also tried just off, then on. neither work :( |
11:59:08 | Zagor | you did hold off, right, never releasing it until the unit powers off? |
11:59:18 | matp | yep |
11:59:20 | Zagor | what happens? |
11:59:53 | matp | it powers off. when i power on and resume, it resumes at the start of the last track. |
12:00 |
12:00:23 | Bagder | did it really? the timer says so, but it doesn't on mine |
12:00:25 | Zagor | interesting. it works for me and many others |
12:00:39 | Zagor | ah, right. the timer is wrong, you must listen to the track |
12:00:47 | matp | ahh. i'm only looking at the timer. not got the headphones plugged in yet. |
12:01:05 | Zagor | ah, goodie. yeah i mentioned that in my resume mail. |
12:02:21 | matp | so you did. sorry. my fault :) |
12:02:30 | Zagor | :) |
12:02:31 | matp | great work guys!! |
12:02:45 | matp | killer feature |
12:03:12 | Zagor | indeed it is. one more thing that pushes us far ahead of the stock firmware. |
12:03:53 | Zagor | now we just need recording to complete the picture |
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12:09:44 | * | Bagder bows before LinusN |
12:10:37 | Bagder | Benoit did the same assumption I guess |
12:11:03 | Zagor | i'll respond |
12:12:38 | Bagder | I'll go and have lunch ;-) |
12:12:56 | matsl | god idea, me too |
12:13:11 | Bagder | Zagor: fix the faq link on the web menu to point to the html version |
12:13:27 | Zagor | yup |
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12:16:27 | * | LinusN got a Snake game in his mailbox yesterday |
12:16:36 | Hes | Yeah! |
12:16:52 | Zagor | a snake game? |
12:17:23 | LinusN | yup, like the Nokia Snake |
12:17:29 | LinusN | he says... |
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12:18:55 | Hes | It's a classic |
12:19:31 | Zagor | LinusN: yeah, but where did it come from? why'd it end up in your mailbox? |
12:19:45 | LinusN | i haven't tried it yet though |
12:19:55 | LinusN | he mailed me about having trouble to test it |
12:20:01 | LinusN | i said "send it" |
12:20:09 | Zagor | he? |
12:20:17 | LinusN | jealous? :-) |
12:20:22 | Zagor | curious |
12:20:31 | LinusN | Itai Shaked |
12:20:47 | LinusN | not Stirred |
12:20:49 | LinusN | :-) |
12:21:27 | Zagor | you are a master of Saying Very Little in Very Many Words :-) |
12:22:10 | matp | If I say NO to resume. Can I ever resume that playlist again? |
12:22:23 | Zagor | matp: no |
12:22:33 | matp | I'm thinking if the user reloads the playlist, maybe it should ask him i he wants to resume it? |
12:22:57 | Zagor | possible, if he hasn't played anything else in between |
12:24:31 | matp | yeah, i need to do some dir browsing, play a game or something, then resume. just an idea.. |
12:29:38 | matp | OK, got another one. Play a playlist. Pause it. Press ON to go to dirbrowse. How do you I get back to the WPS (paused) screen? Should be ON again? |
12:29:42 | matp | brb |
12:30:15 | Zagor | isn't it? |
12:31:14 | Zagor | aah, is_playing is false! mooo |
12:32:28 | LinusN | BTW, i don't really like the "end of song list" text (that I introduced). I'd rather go to the dir browser when done. |
12:32:38 | LinusN | opinions? |
12:32:58 | Zagor | when does it occur, anyway? aren't we always repeating? |
12:34:23 | LinusN | now, yes |
12:34:48 | LinusN | it will return when we are able to disable the repeat mode |
12:35:11 | Zagor | i agree, dropping to the browser is better |
12:35:27 | LinusN | but we have problems with detecting the end of list |
12:36:14 | LinusN | sometimes when the mpeg thread hasn't looked up the id3 tags yet (next-next-next...) wps thinks that the playlist has ended |
12:36:37 | Zagor | I like it that the simulator also resumes :-) |
12:36:42 | LinusN | :-) |
12:37:42 | matp | LinusN: I don't like it either |
12:41:38 | matp | Anyone thought of an "Add To Favourites" keypress now ? |
12:42:14 | Zagor | we can't write files yet |
12:43:59 | matp | How does resume work then? Sorry, I'm playing catchup here |
12:44:16 | LinusN | it saves to a sector on disk |
12:44:21 | LinusN | sector 61 |
12:44:40 | LinusN | like the stock firmware does |
12:44:49 | LinusN | (but the use sector 62) |
12:44:52 | LinusN | they |
12:45:10 | matp | ahh, ok |
12:47:52 | LinusN | i did some interestion tests this weekend, regarding battery life |
12:47:56 | LinusN | interesting |
12:48:29 | LinusN | first, i drained the batteries |
12:48:37 | LinusN | then i charged them using rockbox |
12:48:45 | LinusN | tokk a few hours |
12:48:56 | LinusN | then i let it play until it died |
12:49:02 | LinusN | 6 hours |
12:49:15 | Hes | What voltage did the charge stop at? |
12:49:20 | LinusN | after that i charged again using my external fast charger |
12:49:35 | LinusN | Hes: forgot to check that |
12:49:51 | LinusN | after running for 7 hours i had to go to bed |
12:50:03 | LinusN | and the battery meter was still half full |
12:50:13 | Hes | The battery meter scale isn't linear... |
12:50:20 | LinusN | i know |
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12:50:36 | Hes | We're stopping charging a little bit early |
12:50:38 | Hes | on the safe side |
12:50:43 | LinusN | my point is that we still have work to do on the charger |
12:50:53 | Hes | Yes, this is a known fact 8-) |
12:50:58 | LinusN | maybe the trickle "topping off" will do the trick |
12:51:11 | Hes | That's the next thing to try, yes |
12:51:33 | Hes | the current code stops after voltage has not been increasing for 30 minutes |
12:51:45 | LinusN | i have a nice idea about the RTC |
12:51:58 | Zagor | LinusN: which AC adapter did you use? |
12:52:02 | LinusN | the RTC stops when the voltage goes below a critical level |
12:52:08 | Hes | it never gets to the sharp negative delta, it stops just before that |
12:52:10 | LinusN | Zagor: stock Kingston |
12:52:38 | LinusN | so we can see at what time the RTC stopped when we boot up sgain |
12:54:20 | LinusN | Uwe was speaking about the voltage not rising in "phase 2" |
13:00 |
13:02:18 | Hes | I think doing a trickle charge with a timer after the 30-min no-rise detection hits might do the trick. |
13:02:47 | Zagor | Hes: have you observed how long the no-rise time normally is, before negative delta occurs? |
13:02:54 | LinusN | Hes: so the short delta is absent after 30 minutes 0-delta? |
13:03:59 | Hes | It's not absent. Haven't tried (should try with a forced-on charger once) |
13:04:16 | Hes | It probably could be much better just with a little bit of tuning |
13:04:53 | Hes | eg. lower the negative delta threshold a little, now that we have a better delta calculation which does not jump around that much |
13:05:04 | LinusN | Hes: we should probably have the charger ON when we boot |
13:05:14 | Hes | and longer the 30 mins 0-delta time |
13:05:18 | LinusN | otherwise it's hard to boot when the batteries are dead |
13:05:44 | Hes | Yeah... check for a low voltage immediately after boot and enable charger if needed |
13:05:53 | Hes | could do this pretty easily in the power thread |
13:06:47 | Hes | I still think the charger could be made quite a bit better with just tuning the delta constants |
13:06:54 | LinusN | good |
13:07:13 | Hes | they can be tuned more precisely now that hd-on samples are discarded and we have better and more correct averages |
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13:07:32 | Blaster_Master | is resume supported on the JB6000 ? |
13:07:47 | Hes | before we got false detections with small delta detections |
13:08:05 | LinusN | Blaster_Master: yes |
13:09:02 | Bagder | Zagor: you checked my "submit new" bug report html change? |
13:09:17 | Zagor | yes. very nice. I added a 4th point about reporting archos model. |
13:09:29 | Bagder | good point |
13:09:41 | Zagor | people always say "on my archos jukebox"... |
13:10:59 | LinusN | "which model Archos" should probably be "which Archos model" |
13:11:01 | Zagor | i have a nice idea about how to clean up the wps mess: we move every "submode" (ffwd, volume, etc) into a separate function |
13:11:07 | Blaster_Master | im playing a tune.... pauses .... (presses STOP to shutdown), boots up, nothing happens... |
13:11:14 | Zagor | that way, we get rid of all the state variables |
13:11:28 | Zagor | Blaster_Master: you run a recent version? |
13:11:36 | Bagder | Blaster_Master: you must enable resume first in the settings |
13:11:41 | Zagor | 1.2 does not support resume |
13:13:21 | Blaster_Master | no option for it... got version CVS-020816 |
13:13:30 | Zagor | you need later |
13:13:47 | Bagder | get today's version |
13:13:59 | Zagor | check the front page, resume was added on the 16th and was thus included in the daily build of the 17th |
13:14:42 | Bagder | suggestion: we could work on the roadmap on the web a bit |
13:14:51 | Zagor | yes. |
13:15:03 | Bagder | edit the 1.3 one, add a 1.4 one |
13:15:23 | Bagder | btw, should we turn on proportional fonts as default in the builds? |
13:15:34 | Blaster_Master | doh doh doh , i upped the wrong version to my player :D |
13:15:42 | Bagder | =) |
13:16:25 | LinusN | Bagder: not until we have fixed the width calculation bug for the scroller |
13:16:35 | Bagder | it would be cool to have the roadmap somewhat up-to-date and possibly on its own page to redirect lots of questioners to |
13:16:42 | Bagder | LinusN: why not the other way around? |
13:16:48 | Bagder | then it will be fixed sooner |
13:16:59 | LinusN | ok :-) |
13:17:04 | Blaster_Master | EXTREMUS MAXIMUS ! yet another reason NOT to run the archos sw added :DDD |
13:17:21 | * | Bagder agrees |
13:17:30 | LinusN | c00l as ice! |
13:17:34 | Zagor | Blaster_Master: it works then, I guess? :-) |
13:19:51 | Zagor | we need to get an archos battery faq. or get battery info into the faq. people on the yahoo list are really upset that the players don't stop charging. |
13:20:11 | Bagder | yes, we should have a separate battery page |
13:20:36 | Bagder | "all you wanted to know about your Archos batteries but were too afraid to ask about" |
13:20:42 | Bagder | :-) |
13:20:47 | Zagor | :) |
13:23:55 | Bagder | want me to collect the initial 10 questions? |
13:24:02 | Zagor | sure, go ahead |
13:25:25 | Blaster_Master | perfectly ! |
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13:32:59 | matp | "How much are replacement batteries?" |
13:34:41 | Bagder | I'll add that one |
13:34:53 | Bagder | how much are they then? :) |
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13:37:28 | edx | hey |
13:37:45 | Zagor | hi edx |
13:38:34 | edx | Bagder, are you there? |
13:38:42 | Bagder | yep |
13:38:57 | matp | Bagder: good question :) |
13:38:59 | edx | the low quality mp3 you want |
13:39:15 | edx | i have an mp3 88 mins, live-recorder at a concert - would that be ok |
13:39:28 | Bagder | matp: oh well, I only write up the questinos at first anyway ;-) |
13:39:34 | Bagder | edx: certainly |
13:39:35 | edx | I can give you any quality below or equal to 128 kbits |
13:39:50 | edx | what qualities would you prefer? |
13:39:52 | Bagder | gimme a nice set and I'll be very happy |
13:39:55 | Hes | if you own the copyrights for the concert (ie. permission songwriters & performers) |
13:40:24 | Bagder | right, no bootlegging here |
13:40:33 | edx | doh.. i dont even know whose concert it is |
13:41:27 | Bagder | hm, well in that case I think we rather be safe than sorry |
13:41:43 | edx | yea.. |
13:42:04 | edx | hmmm what else could I have that is like 90 mins and not copyrighted?! |
13:42:07 | Bagder | Zagor: I'll add a file in www/docs named battery.t |
13:42:28 | Zagor | ok |
13:42:32 | Bagder | edx: you can record whatever, birds, you singing, silence, you vacuuming your apartment... :-) |
13:42:50 | Zagor | Bagder: you have a recorder, why don't you do it? |
13:43:05 | Bagder | because rockbox doesn't record |
13:43:11 | Bagder | I don't have usb here |
13:43:20 | Zagor | ok |
13:44:16 | Bagder | Zagor: now, I added 11 frequent battery questions |
13:44:27 | Zagor | ok |
13:44:41 | Bagder | no answers though ;-) |
13:46:51 | edx | Bagder: the mp3 is available for free download (just noticed) |
13:47:26 | edx | www.tranceaddict.com - i'll get it and convert it to a set of qualities, ok? |
13:47:45 | Bagder | sure |
13:50:42 | matp | what voltage are the std batteries? |
13:51:37 | LinusN | 1.2V |
13:52:56 | matp | hmm, this fit the bill? |
13:53:01 | matp | http://www.ibsa.com/estore/view_product_detail.asp?mscssid=2ED37T0FLS798GG92JBN9C6SEEV32G08&part_number=ASC1015&category_id=0&find_spec=nimh&js=1 |
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13:54:44 | LinusN | matp: doesn't look very interesting |
13:55:09 | LinusN | they are not the correct form factor (2/3 AA) and they are only 600mAh |
13:56:49 | Zagor | http://www.greenbatteries.com are a good page both for info and purchasing |
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14:01:12 | Zagor | btw, I really agree with whoever say shuffle mode should not mean you don't play the file you select. it's a silly feature. |
14:01:29 | Hes | Me too |
14:01:30 | Bagder | I agree |
14:01:39 | Bagder | it should play the selected song first |
14:01:41 | LinusN | Zagor: the problem is that you *have* to select one |
14:02:02 | Zagor | LinusN: yes. but i think everyone will be confused by the current system. |
14:02:09 | Zagor | if you want full shuffle, make a playlist |
14:02:11 | LinusN | what does a CD player do? |
14:02:20 | LinusN | Zagor: easy to say |
14:02:31 | Bagder | my CD player plays the current song, then do random |
14:02:43 | Bagder | as the random takes place on the next-song |
14:03:02 | Bagder | but some CD players do random at once when the random button is pressed |
14:03:15 | LinusN | i expect the player to play the selected song |
14:03:17 | Bagder | it isn't a good comparison though, as CD-players are not directories |
14:06:35 | Zagor | ok, so basically we all agree. any volunteer to fix it? |
14:06:56 | Bagder | I can have a look |
14:07:08 | Zagor | good |
14:08:09 | * | Bagder likes 'make tags' |
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14:13:23 | Bagder | hm, the code is neatly uncommented... |
14:13:34 | Zagor | :-) |
14:13:51 | Bagder | like start_index and start_offset... what's the diff? ;-) |
14:14:20 | Zagor | playlist index and offset in file |
14:14:25 | Zagor | for resume |
14:14:33 | Bagder | aha |
14:15:17 | * | Bagder adds some comments |
14:15:46 | schuepf | Hi there, I`m pretty new here...what brought me here is my interest to implement/build a connect to my Canon S40 camera to download pictures to the archos - do you see any chance ? |
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14:15:58 | Bagder | nope |
14:16:01 | LinusN | no i don't |
14:16:13 | Zagor | schuepf: only with a smart box (compiter) between them |
14:16:17 | Zagor | computer |
14:16:29 | LinusN | the archos can only work as an ATA-to-USB bridge, as a slave |
14:16:44 | Zagor | both are usb slaves, which can't talk to each other. they need a master ("host") |
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14:17:39 | Zagor | Bagder: perhaps the easiest way is to start shuffling at 1 instead of 0 if it's a ram playlist |
14:18:27 | Zagor | umm, no that won't work. sorry, carry on :) |
14:18:43 | Bagder | heh |
14:19:06 | schuepf | It's a pitty that the documentation of the isd200 is gone with the merge of the company to cypress...does anyone have it ? |
14:19:22 | Zagor | I have it, but I'm not allowed to distribute it :-( |
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14:19:26 | LinusN | you can always keep track of where the selected song ended up after the shuffle, and go from there |
14:19:43 | Bagder | LinusN: yes, that's my plan |
14:20:03 | Zagor | find it again, or keep track of it? |
14:20:11 | Bagder | find it again |
14:20:12 | LinusN | maybe we should make it an.......option? |
14:20:31 | Bagder | hehe |
14:20:31 | Zagor | LinusN: not unless a dozen people scream about it, IMHO |
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14:20:38 | Bagder | I agree |
14:20:49 | LinusN | ok |
14:21:21 | schuepf | sorry...please resend the last directed at me (I killed my window :-(( |
14:21:40 | Zagor | schuepf: I have the docs, but I'm not allowed to distribute it :-( |
14:21:52 | bobTHC | no windows is killing u schuepf ! |
14:22:13 | bobTHC | :) |
14:22:27 | Zagor | schuepf: still, the isd200 is strictly an ATA bridge. you can't do any tricks with it. |
14:22:57 | Zagor | you must put a host between the devices, it's the only way to do it |
14:23:19 | schuepf | I understood...maybe building a host device just to copy the data... |
14:23:42 | Zagor | yes, that would be possible. and popular, I think. many people have asked the same thing. |
14:24:11 | LinusN | schuepf: build one and get rich! |
14:24:17 | schuepf | but you don't know of any starting a project of that kind |
14:24:24 | Zagor | nope |
14:29:29 | Bagder | now, shall I test this or just commit and listen to the screams... :-) |
14:29:34 | Bagder | ... I think i'll test first |
14:29:38 | Bagder | :-P |
14:30:44 | LinusN | Bagder: send a patch to me, if you can't test it |
14:31:05 | Bagder | seems to work in the simulator |
14:31:14 | Bagder | i'll mail you a patch anyway |
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14:35:32 | Bagder | LinusN: sent |
14:36:18 | LinusN | Bagder: received |
14:36:52 | * | Snorlax has found the /me funktion |
14:36:59 | Bagder | woohooo ;-) |
14:37:56 | * | Bagder is lost in snmp code :-( |
14:38:17 | * | Snorlax likes the /me funktion |
14:38:38 | * | LinusN too |
14:38:39 | edx | we all do ;-) |
14:38:55 | * | Bagder likes nothing atm |
14:39:39 | * | Snorlax is soon gonna get a panic-attact because of all the purple color from when he discovered the /me funktion |
14:39:58 | Bagder | you need to learn how to reconfigure your colours ;-) |
14:40:14 | edx | lol |
14:40:17 | | Part bobTHC |
14:40:45 | LinusN | Bagder: seems to work ok |
14:41:08 | Snorlax | Linus how's it goin' with the distortion issue? |
14:41:12 | Bagder | thanks to the limit on dir sizes it won't be too slow either ;-) |
14:41:18 | LinusN | Snorlax: it should be solved |
14:41:28 | Snorlax | ahum |
14:41:28 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK edx |
14:41:28 | * | edx sends a little RED to Snorlax |
14:42:19 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
14:42:19 | * | Snorlax has found the yellow button |
14:42:28 | LinusN | Snorlax: do you still have distortion (with the latest CVS build)? |
14:42:47 | Snorlax | gonna try the LATEST build now |
14:43:08 | LinusN | well, i haven't done anything to it the last couple of days |
14:43:56 | Snorlax | thought so.. |
14:44:57 | Snorlax | weel, maybe it's fixed.. |
14:45:17 | Snorlax | but, linus, u got the 1 hour charger?! |
14:46:36 | LinusN | yes, a GP Smart... |
14:48:43 | Snorlax | me too.. |
14:49:05 | Snorlax | I have to first plug in the charger and then plug in the batteries one at a time |
14:49:09 | Snorlax | u? |
14:49:31 | LinusN | i insert all batteries and then plug in the cord |
14:49:39 | matsl | Things are happening to wps screen. Good that some people check in things I don't dare ;-) |
14:49:47 | LinusN | all LED's go red as soon as i insert the cord |
14:50:31 | Snorlax | ok, mine doesn't |
14:51:01 | LinusN | strange |
14:51:07 | Snorlax | jupp |
14:51:15 | * | matsl leaving office, going home ... |
14:51:23 | matsl | cu sone |
14:51:28 | matsl | soon |
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14:52:07 | Zagor | Bagder: the bitrate/song length problem is probably because we don't handle MPEG2.5 |
14:52:18 | Bagder | aha |
14:52:24 | Zagor | I tried encoding a song 32kbit/11kHz and it became MPEG2.5 |
14:52:48 | Bagder | so that fell through some default in the switch()es then? |
14:52:52 | Zagor | yes |
14:53:15 | Bagder | cool... or something ;-) |
14:53:26 | Zagor | or, umm, it doesn't accept the frame header and looks for another. |
14:53:40 | * | Snorlax just came home from school, don't you work? |
14:53:54 | Zagor | this is my job :-) |
14:53:57 | Bagder | nah, we're *at* work, we don't actually work ;-) |
14:54:28 | Zagor | Bagder: I have a 68 minute 32/11 track (some choir rehearsals of my own). you want a peek at it? (16MB) |
14:54:28 | Bagder | Zagor: I take it it easily repeatable in the sim? |
14:54:32 | Zagor | yes |
14:54:37 | Bagder | Zagor: sure |
14:54:46 | Zagor | where do I put it? |
14:54:58 | Snorlax | how do u get money?! |
14:54:58 | Bagder | anywhere, I can curl or scp it |
14:55:06 | Zagor | ok |
14:55:19 | Bagder | Snorlax: we get paid for working you know ;-) |
14:55:35 | notch | has anyone implemented the track FF feature for the remote? |
14:55:44 | notch | If notI'll give it a go... |
14:55:50 | Bagder | I don't think anyone has |
14:55:57 | Zagor | it's a tad difficult |
14:56:06 | Zagor | since we don't get REPEAT flags from the remote |
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14:56:10 | notch | I know ! |
14:56:13 | adi|dads | howdy al... |
14:56:15 | adi|dads | all |
14:56:17 | Bagder | hey ho adi |
14:56:28 | Zagor | notch so how do you plan to do it? |
14:56:32 | * | Snorlax has to work to get money |
14:56:38 | notch | I'll look a trying to find the 'cleanest' implementation :-) |
14:56:40 | adi|dads | i just read over the 'play selected song when weshuffle' patch... |
14:56:43 | adi|dads | question about it... |
14:56:50 | Bagder | shoot |
14:57:06 | adi|dads | why do we shuffle, then search to play the song? |
14:57:22 | LinusN | notch: how would you do it, when you don't know when the key is released? |
14:57:30 | Bagder | adi|dads: how else would we do it? |
14:57:34 | adi|dads | couldn't we store the data related to the song in memory, (ie remove it from the list) |
14:57:46 | Bagder | shuffle 1 - N and put the current on index 0 is an option |
14:57:53 | adi|dads | then shuffle the list, putting the new sort in all but the first locaton in the array |
14:57:59 | adi|dads | nod |
14:58:02 | * | Zagor goes to fetch lunch |
14:58:23 | adi|dads | seems to be senseless to do a search through possible N indexs |
14:58:26 | adi|dads | to find the song |
14:58:42 | LinusN | searching 400 indices isn't much work |
14:58:58 | Bagder | it was the quickest solution |
14:59:08 | LinusN | still searching 0 indices is faster... :-) |
14:59:14 | Bagder | as my commit comment mentions, we may need to do the slightly more involved one anyway |
14:59:20 | adi|dads | nods |
14:59:24 | adi|dads | i was just curious |
14:59:29 | Bagder | I just didn't want to touch the shuffle code |
14:59:33 | adi|dads | now.. id have code for you if i wasn't at my fathers ;) |
14:59:39 | * | adi|dads nods |
14:59:48 | adi|dads | it gets the job done now.. we can adapt and overcome later |
14:59:57 | Bagder | that's what i thought too |
15:00 |
15:00:01 | adi|dads | nods |
15:00:29 | adi|dads | okay... ill be back later... |
15:00:31 | * | adi|dads waves |
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15:00:40 | notch | Zagor : if the button is down, then we should be getting serial data... but i'm not sure how fast the 'normal' remote spits data... |
15:00:54 | Bagder | I like the review opportunities the commit-mails enable |
15:02:18 | notch | anyone got an archos remote and a scope handy? |
15:02:40 | LinusN | scope, but no remote |
15:05:09 | Zagor | notch: it spits rather slowly. 3-4 HZ maybe |
15:05:22 | notch | Oh bugger... |
15:05:42 | Zagor | so it's rather inditinguishable from the normal keys |
15:06:03 | Bagder | does the stock firmware support it? |
15:06:43 | Zagor | I doubt it |
15:07:19 | LinusN | how silly |
15:08:12 | notch | I read a post on the very first mailing list that said if the data came in at >200ms, you could get the FF function |
15:08:40 | notch | But I think they must have been mistaken as I could not get this to happen... |
15:08:52 | notch | <200ms! |
15:10:27 | LinusN | such a crappy device |
15:10:41 | notch | Did anyone get to the F2 switch for random mode request? |
15:11:03 | Bagder | nope, still left to do |
15:11:27 | Zagor | I have a better idea for F keys |
15:12:04 | Zagor | Holding down F3 gets you to a "display settings screen", where left, down, right sets scrollbar, status, meny help etc. |
15:12:15 | Zagor | Holding F2 you get to set repeat, shuffle etc. |
15:13:02 | notch | sounds good! |
15:13:02 | Zagor | i.e combined keys, with a "help screen" |
15:13:11 | LinusN | k00l |
15:13:13 | Bagder | hey, that souns good |
15:13:16 | Bagder | sounds |
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15:15:07 | notch | where's the code :-)) |
15:15:28 | Zagor | coming up... :-) |
15:15:42 | Zagor | someone should look at setting id3.elapsed correctly after resume |
15:20:47 | * | notch notices a pin dropping |
15:21:21 | Zagor | hehe |
15:27:15 | Blaster_Master | this link describes how to mod the LED´s on the jukebox 'http://www.mctubster.com/index.html' |
15:27:26 | Blaster_Master | amongst outher things |
15:27:38 | Zagor | yes |
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15:35:12 | Snorlax | Blaste_Master why u post those links? |
15:41:28 | dwihno | hello |
15:41:51 | edx | Bagder, the mp3s also in different frequences or only 22000kHZ? |
15:42:29 | matp | Hmm, just got stuck in pause mode. wouldn't unpause. |
15:42:47 | Bagder | edx: some different freqs would be good too |
15:42:50 | edx | ok |
15:42:55 | matp | had to turn off and resume to get it to play again :) |
15:42:57 | edx | ill prepare a set and tell you when im done |
15:43:04 | dwihno | yay for Bagder |
15:43:31 | Bagder | :-) |
15:44:23 | dwihno | yay for edx |
15:44:31 | dwihno | Cool stuff in the cvs today |
15:45:53 | * | Bagder types like crap |
15:46:36 | * | dwihno drinks tea |
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15:54:13 | LinusN | time to go home. cu guys! |
15:54:18 | dwihno | How does the resume thing work btw? |
15:54:18 | Bagder | bye LinusN |
15:54:22 | dwihno | bye Linus |
15:54:25 | | Part LinusN |
15:54:26 | notch | bye! |
15:55:21 | * | Bagder adds mpeg 2.5 support |
15:56:01 | dwihno | Hey, what about og? ^_^ |
15:56:09 | Zagor | dwihno: resume works by storing the playlist file, index, seed and offset into the file currently being played |
15:56:26 | dwihno | Zagor: ah, only on player though? |
15:56:32 | Zagor | nope, both |
15:56:35 | dwihno | :O |
15:56:57 | Bagder | dwihno: *GO TRY IT* =) |
15:58:02 | dwihno | Hmm :) |
15:58:15 | dwihno | Does this have anything to do with the HD error posts on the mailing list? ;) |
15:58:56 | Bagder | do I sense a chicken here? B-P |
15:59:09 | Bagder | hehe |
15:59:20 | Zagor | dwihno: aren't you the guy who tested before any of us did? gone chicken, have you? :) |
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16:00:09 | dwihno | Zagor: always two, there are :) |
16:00:18 | dwihno | one Zagor, and one Bagder! |
16:00:25 | edx | lol |
16:00:37 | Bagder | we're actually the same person |
16:00:45 | Bagder | I am the bot Zagor wrote |
16:00:58 | dwihno | Then I'm santa claus |
16:02:35 | * | edx does not believe bagder! |
16:02:40 | notch | I want a bike, new car and a cat :-) |
16:02:42 | edx | prove that Zagor is not the bot you wrote! |
16:03:13 | Bagder | edx: he hasn't crashed during the whole day! Is that proof enough? ;-) |
16:03:26 | Zagor | hehe |
16:03:39 | edx | Bagder: you have |
16:03:40 | edx | ? |
16:03:49 | * | edx checks the logs |
16:03:50 | Zagor | exactly the point |
16:03:51 | edx | lol |
16:05:28 | Bagder | Zagor: 68:04 |
16:05:35 | Bagder | that's what it says now |
16:05:41 | Zagor | nice! |
16:05:46 | Bagder | 32kbit, 11025Hz |
16:05:53 | Zagor | excellent |
16:08:55 | Zagor | woohoo. elpsed done for CBR. |
16:09:03 | Zagor | VBR is a bit more tricky :-) |
16:09:24 | Bagder | Zagor: can we copy that mpeg html and put it on the rockbox site? |
16:09:37 | Bagder | it allows it and feels like a better place to point to |
16:10:02 | Zagor | sure |
16:10:08 | matp | Hmm, unpause is definitely broken |
16:10:28 | Bagder | Zagor: ok, I add it to the www/docs/ dir then? |
16:10:35 | Zagor | Bagder: sounds good |
16:10:43 | Zagor | matp: fixed again today |
16:12:14 | Bagder | added |
16:13:28 | Zagor | Bagder: if you feel bored, this could be a fun feature: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/tcpdump-3.6.2.tar.gz |
16:13:34 | Zagor | no, http://ff123.net/identify.html |
16:13:39 | Zagor | (damn clipboard) |
16:14:11 | Bagder | I'm not that bored yet ;-) |
16:14:13 | Zagor | hehe |
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16:16:28 | Zagor | Bagder: when you check in the new id3.c, trim the comment for getsonglength. it, well, lies :-) |
16:16:40 | Bagder | Zagor: but Benoit's problem does not seem to be MPEG 2.5 judging from this freqs |
16:16:41 | Bagder | Zagor: I did |
16:17:21 | Bagder | s/this/his |
16:18:15 | Zagor | but are those the numbers he knows are true, or what rockbox reports? |
16:18:28 | Bagder | ah |
16:18:31 | Bagder | that's a good point |
16:18:40 | Bagder | I'll post a q |
16:23:31 | Bagder | "I got 8 hours and 15 minutes of time out of the batteries whilst using the RockBox 1.2 firmawre as opposed to 10 hours and 30 minutes with the Archos firmware (1.26)." |
16:23:56 | Bagder | (from the yahoo forum) |
16:24:56 | Bagder | "I would say that the Rockbox latest daily build keeps my JBS20 hotter than |
16:24:56 | Bagder | the stock firmware." |
16:25:00 | Bagder | weirdos |
16:25:49 | Zagor | that forum is more about gossip than anything else. "I think", "I heard", "maybe this" etc. |
16:26:07 | Bagder | indeed |
16:26:17 | Zagor | and of course, nobody ever reports the bugs they find. they just bitch about it on their list |
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16:29:05 | Zagor | I would post a mail about it, but nobody ever remembers the contents of any one email more than 10 minutes |
16:29:17 | * | Zagor is in his cynical mood |
16:30:00 | Bagder | at least we don't have to care |
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16:32:55 | Bagder | zaknafein: just post your ideas here, in the open. We won't bite ;-) |
16:33:05 | zaknafein | thx Bagder |
16:33:31 | Bagder | well, zagor might bite but he's friendly on the inside ;-P |
16:33:39 | edx | lol |
16:33:57 | edx | thats just because Zagor is the only one in here who's not a bot |
16:34:05 | Bagder | hehehe |
16:34:16 | zaknafein | well.. yesterday i had to change my batteries, and when i re-started my jukebox, ups... the time had gone away.. Could it be possible to include an option to set the correct time ? |
16:34:32 | Zagor | zaknafein: there is already. settings->time |
16:35:07 | zaknafein | really? |
16:35:19 | zaknafein | ok.. thx |
16:35:20 | zaknafein | :) |
16:35:23 | Bagder | was that in 1.2 or added afterwards? |
16:35:31 | Zagor | yes. I don't remember if it got into 1.2, but it's definitely there now. |
16:35:34 | zaknafein | i think it was added later |
16:35:41 | zaknafein | i have 1.2 |
16:35:47 | Zagor | ok |
16:35:54 | Zagor | try a newer daily build then |
16:36:01 | Zagor | or wait for 1.3 |
16:36:03 | Bagder | it is a bit hard to remember what got added when |
16:36:07 | zaknafein | that's what i'm doing now |
16:36:13 | zaknafein | another thing... |
16:36:26 | zaknafein | is there a queue or something like that? |
16:36:42 | Zagor | not yet. playlists or dir play only |
16:37:46 | zaknafein | autobuild playlist hasn't been added yet, no? |
16:37:58 | Zagor | nope. it's coming after 1.3. |
16:38:13 | Bagder | hehe, Benoit tried the URL in the source comment... |
16:38:51 | Bagder | it should work in 20 minutes ;-) |
16:38:56 | Zagor | hehe |
16:38:57 | edx | bagder: 20kbit/s is the lowest i can get :( |
16:39:59 | Bagder | edx: not 16? weird, it'll be useful anyway |
16:41:47 | edx | ok |
16:42:02 | edx | that is just the program i am using but i dont have anything different |
16:42:07 | Zagor | try lame |
16:42:21 | Bagder | edx: there's some lost Windows dude on the list you could point to some good windows docs ;-) |
16:46:57 | Bagder | Zagor: I modded head.t now to use the proper faq link |
16:47:41 | Zagor | ok, good |
16:50:06 | edx | Bagder: who are you talking about :) |
16:50:18 | Bagder | edx: jeansebastien.tauth@mpsa.com |
16:50:59 | * | edx reads his mail |
16:54:05 | Bagder | Zagor: when I convert the FAQ into better html, you have any favourite css class to use for the questions? |
16:54:17 | Zagor | nope |
16:54:26 | Bagder | ok, I'll invent one |
16:54:29 | Zagor | yup |
16:55:13 | * | edx replied |
16:55:25 | Bagder | thanks |
16:55:51 | * | edx should update the sh-win page a little (the makefile stuff) |
16:57:22 | Bagder | should I add <a name=blaha> stuff to the faq? |
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16:57:28 | Bagder | to enable links to specific Qs? |
16:57:50 | Bagder | Zagor: class name is now 'faqq' |
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16:58:03 | Bagder | for the q |
16:58:04 | Zagor | ok |
16:58:23 | Zagor | Bagder: sure, add it. could be useful. |
16:58:46 | Bagder | is the <a then supposed to cover the whole question? |
16:58:59 | Bagder | or does it matter at all? |
16:59:27 | Zagor | it doesn't matter. you don't even need an end </a> for name anchors, AFAIK |
16:59:43 | Bagder | I'll add a </a> anyway for the looks |
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17:02:02 | Bagder | Zagor: try a manual update of the web now, the faq should get nicer |
17:03:00 | Zagor | nice. did you make a class for the answers aswell? |
17:03:08 | Bagder | yes, 'faqa' |
17:03:18 | Zagor | ok |
17:06:03 | Bagder | it struck me that we could generate an index at the top too in case we ever feel the need |
17:06:16 | Zagor | good idea |
17:07:09 | Zagor | anyone have a good reference for the XING vbr header? I can't find a good one. |
17:07:45 | Zagor | i.e the TOC has 100 entries. is that percent 0-99 or 1-100? (and why 100 instead of 99??) |
17:08:07 | Zagor | both 0 and 100 are pretty pointless |
17:08:44 | matp | anyone got dosfsck to work? |
17:09:34 | Bagder | I've used it |
17:10:00 | matp | Mine is just sitting there apparantly doing nothing. |
17:10:37 | Bagder | Zagor: http://docs.real.com/docs/xingtech/vbrheadersdk.zip |
17:11:15 | Zagor | Bagder: I don't call that good :-) |
17:11:27 | Bagder | no |
17:19:15 | Zagor | hmm, looks like hardeep cheated a bit in the search algorithm :-) |
17:20:20 | edx | I ahve 20 and 32 kbits.. would you prefer 40 or rather 24 now? (or even something yet different?) |
17:26:28 | | Quit Miran ("Its not that you do not see, it is mearly that your eyes do not perceive") |
17:28:28 | Bagder | http://storebror.haxx.se/rockbox/docs/faq.html |
17:28:36 | Bagder | it doesn't look that good |
17:28:50 | Zagor | no |
17:28:59 | Zagor | that's why I asked bout faqa |
17:29:13 | Bagder | well I mean the toc above |
17:29:42 | Zagor | oh |
17:29:49 | Zagor | looked at the wrong faq :) |
17:29:54 | Bagder | hehe |
17:30:11 | Zagor | that should be a list |
17:30:27 | Zagor | with 34 Qs we do need an index |
17:31:07 | Bagder | no, not when it looks this ugly ;-) |
17:31:20 | edx | Bagder: i got 20 and 32 kbits - what next? |
17:31:45 | Bagder | edx: I don't know that off hand |
17:31:55 | Bagder | basicly everything will be useful |
17:32:00 | edx | ok |
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17:32:55 | Bagder | using faqa and faqq it should be possible to at least make it look decent |
17:32:55 | matp | RE FAQ. We dont need Question 30 |
17:33:08 | Bagder | true |
17:33:18 | Bagder | outdated now |
17:34:45 | matp | A13 is not a url |
17:35:04 | Bagder | uh |
17:35:36 | Bagder | stupid script ;-) |
17:35:51 | matp | :) |
17:36:06 | matp | A31. I thought we have a version of rolo ? |
17:36:43 | * | edx is getting crazy |
17:36:59 | * | edx has a biiiiiiiiiiig problem :( |
17:38:16 | edx | i wrote a proxy server that works with mirc generally, but not for ONE server |
17:38:35 | edx | *off topic* |
17:38:42 | edx | anyways.. had to say that |
17:39:20 | Bagder | muh |
17:39:25 | Bagder | :-) |
17:39:33 | * | Bagder uses muh and is happy |
17:39:43 | edx | MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! |
17:39:48 | * | edx feels better |
17:40:52 | Bagder | matp: mail those remarks to adi or the list |
17:41:11 | matp | yuk. just done a clean build and i reverted to fixed width fonts |
17:41:12 | Bagder | adi is the faq maintainer |
17:41:17 | matp | sure |
17:41:32 | Bagder | I want prop fonts as default |
17:41:38 | Zagor | they will be |
17:41:51 | matp | how do i get them. they used to be in the configure script |
17:41:56 | Zagor | they still are |
17:42:04 | edx | they are if you compile on windows :P (if it is just that one define) |
17:42:39 | matp | ok, i answered yes to loadable by mistake |
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17:50:21 | Bagder | ok, now the links should become better on that faq page |
17:51:08 | Bagder | once the site updates |
17:51:31 | Bagder | I'm running home |
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17:53:10 | matp | Scroll-speed indicator does not work with prop fonts :) |
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18:05:43 | bobTHC | zzzzzzzz....... |
18:06:50 | bobTHC | bye all! |
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18:12:34 | schuepf | EXIT |
18:12:35 | * | notch injects diet coke directly into his veins... |
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18:13:02 | notch | ahhh what a rush.... |
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18:24:04 | MeRWiN | *yawn* |
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18:42:22 | MeRWiN | Bagder: I think the random is better suited to play the selected song as #1 in the playlist position. My opinion only ;) |
18:42:39 | Bagder | I know |
18:42:52 | Bagder | my reasons for using this solutions still apply though ;-) |
18:43:11 | MeRWiN | Bagder: what were your reasons? |
18:43:29 | Bagder | I came to think of another solution |
18:43:39 | Bagder | I could just swap the found index with index 0 and play from there |
18:44:00 | MeRWiN | that would be an easy solution |
18:44:16 | Bagder | yeah |
18:44:25 | Bagder | I'll look into this once again right now |
18:44:25 | MeRWiN | oh my god, 44 new messages overnight in rockbox |
18:44:39 | Bagder | its booming all right |
18:45:18 | MeRWiN | Hmm... I think I'd better get ready for my flight and check my e-mail at the airport or something :) |
18:47:29 | Bagder | ah |
18:47:34 | Bagder | this doesn't work with resume |
18:48:04 | edx | Bagder: I have 9 converted mp3 files now |
18:48:05 | Bagder | or... |
18:48:11 | Bagder | edx: cool! |
18:48:25 | Bagder | can I download them from you? |
18:48:32 | edx | yea wait |
18:48:42 | Bagder | sure, no hutty |
18:48:44 | Bagder | hurry |
18:49:19 | edx | http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/Talla 2xlc - Live at Kinki Palace-12-25-2001[20kbits, 11025kHZ].mp3 |
18:49:37 | edx | hmmm wait |
18:49:42 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
18:49:42 | * | Bagder waits |
18:50:10 | edx | ill better put them in an empty dir and just give you the address of the dir so you can see the names for your slef (plus you already have the links) |
18:50:37 | Bagder | yes, it makes it easier for me |
18:50:46 | edx | and for me |
18:50:48 | * | edx is selfish :) |
18:51:20 | * | edx only has 16 kb/sec upstream - will take a while :( |
18:51:35 | Bagder | ah, right |
18:51:57 | edx | but i guess you got enough time (at least your connection :P) |
18:52:07 | Bagder | sure |
18:52:14 | edx | *copying* |
18:52:24 | edx | damn.. only got 10mbit lan at the moment |
18:53:05 | Bagder | hm, getting all-dir to play the whole dir only once when repeat is off is tricky |
18:53:11 | Bagder | ... when resumed |
18:53:46 | edx | http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs/ |
18:54:22 | * | edx notices his makefiles for the win32 simulator dont wokr any more |
18:55:27 | edx | http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs/ |
18:55:27 | edx | * edx notices his makefiles for the win32 simul |
18:55:30 | edx | doH! |
18:55:37 | edx | *copy&paste bug* |
18:55:44 | edx | bagder - in that dir are the mp3s |
18:55:49 | Bagder | I see them |
18:55:56 | matp | hmm, interesting resume when I updated my playlist |
18:57:10 | Bagder | hehe, it doesn't check that the list is identical... |
18:57:49 | matp | yeah. could we check the timestamps or something |
18:58:34 | Bagder | something should be done, I agree |
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18:59:31 | matp | i mean, it's not a big deal. most people (including me) are grateful that it works at all |
18:59:39 | matp | but i like perfection :) |
18:59:57 | Bagder | hehe |
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19:01:31 | matp | well, guys. gotta go home. good work. bye |
19:01:50 | Bagder | bye matp |
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19:17:43 | Bagder | edx: woo, one file down ;-) |
19:19:13 | edx | woo :) |
19:20:07 | Bagder | edx: you tried these in rockbox yet? :-) |
19:20:49 | edx | no |
19:21:14 | edx | if they dont work you got something to debug :P |
19:22:01 | Bagder | yeps |
19:29:14 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/designs.html |
19:29:16 | Bagder | updated |
19:29:31 | Topic | "design us a t-shirt!" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
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19:32:30 | xam | hi, I tried to download the linux kernel patch to unlock the harddrive, but the link doesn't work ... where can I get it? |
19:33:34 | Bagder | lemme check |
19:34:11 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-03/att-0010/01-isd200.diff |
19:35:03 | xam | thanks alot! (that was quick!) |
19:35:17 | Bagder | I knew where to look ;-) |
19:35:46 | xam | still waiting for my recorder20 to arrive ... |
19:37:20 | Bagder | ... and unlock your hd in the mean time? ;-) |
19:38:53 | xam | hehe ;) not, I just wan't to get all the files BEFORE I get the recorder - I just so excited |
19:39:20 | xam | I have to recompile the kernel anyway ... |
19:39:25 | Bagder | tjat unlock patch won't do any good for the recorder |
19:39:32 | Bagder | it is for the isd200 driver |
19:39:39 | Bagder | the recorder uses an isd300 |
19:39:45 | Bagder | which is slightly different |
19:40:23 | xam | argll, are there any locked harddrives in the recorder20 series? |
19:40:37 | Bagder | not that I know of |
19:40:45 | xam | phew |
19:40:48 | Bagder | and really, it has been a long time since there was one on the player too |
19:45:35 | xam | I'm looking forward to try out rockbox ... afaik one of the most 'annoying' things about the archos is the playlist. Is this true? |
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19:48:18 | Bagder | yes it is |
19:48:25 | Bagder | it isn't only annoying |
19:48:31 | Bagder | it is bloody STUPID |
19:49:28 | Bagder | it can only have 999 songs in a playlist |
19:49:37 | xam | WHAT ??? |
19:49:38 | Bagder | and it loads playlists slooooooow |
19:49:51 | xam | jesus ... |
19:49:54 | Bagder | like my 150 song list took 5-7 seconds to load |
19:50:29 | Bagder | rockbox loads maximum 10000 songs in a playlist, with the speed of approx 1000 songs/sec |
19:51:18 | Bagder | to put it short: I never use the stock firmware ;-) |
19:53:12 | xam | well, I have to see. I haven't got the archos yet ... |
19:54:22 | xam | well, the games are a nice idea ;) |
19:56:03 | Bagder | yeah, I like them |
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20:07:42 | Bagder | Hes: you around? |
20:08:40 | xam | He's dead, Jim |
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20:45:59 | dwihno|gone | Zagor|away: please don't be away ;D |
20:51:43 | Bagder | time to go and eat pie |
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20:52:15 | dwihno|gone | PIE?! |
20:52:17 | dwihno|gone | PIE PIE PIE |
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21:51:11 | TotMacher | i want sort by DATE ! :) |
21:52:21 | TotMacher | and i want to see, how much space i used :) |
21:52:28 | TotMacher | to pose with my 40gb drive :) |
21:55:25 | TotMacher | all on idle here ? |
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