| 00:00:14 | Bagder | since then when we do add a better way, the code will adjust more smoothly |
| 00:00:22 | Zagor | a stat should rather use the info from the fat |
| 00:00:42 | Bagder | a proper stat, yes :) |
| 00:02:29 | Bagder | "Well Itried out the daily build from the 19th and got 8 hours and 16 minutes of playtime so much the same as before." |
| 00:02:49 | Bagder | yahoo-message |
| 00:03:00 | Zagor | yup |
| 00:03:48 | Hes | which charger used? |
| 00:04:48 | Bagder | no clue given there |
| 00:11:18 | Hes | I have fortune almost implemented |
| 00:11:29 | Hes | need to do some fine tuning in the text display still |
| 00:13:26 | Hes | Having hard time without a .profile to put my fortune command in. |
| 00:13:49 | Bagder | hehe |
| 00:14:44 | Hes | Filtered a set of 7799 cookies short enough to be displayed on the recorder's screen, making a 500k file |
| 00:15:08 | Zagor | hehe |
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| 00:18:27 | Hes | I have to make my contribution to the useless crap section 8-) |
| 00:19:34 | Bagder | yes, we need to keep the speed up in that area |
| 00:19:48 | Bagder | people might think we're going soft ;-) |
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| 00:23:17 | Zagor | ¡hola! :) |
| 00:30:02 | Hes | 'try again' was the first cookie I got when trying it out with the real stuff 8-) |
| 00:30:25 | noalavida | ¡hola! |
| 00:30:38 | Zagor | Hes: hehe |
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| 00:34:28 | Zagor | Hes: you should note in battery-faq Q2 that the logic described only concerns recorders |
| 00:37:13 | Hes | "The charger logic on the Recorders lets the batteries.." should do it? |
| 00:37:28 | Hes | Bedtime |
| 00:37:36 | Zagor | night |
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| 01:17:33 | MeRWiN | yoYOYO |
| 01:20:47 | BoD[] | :) |
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| 01:24:54 | * | MeRWiN wants to code something but doesn't know what |
| 01:25:12 | PsycoXul | fill in the text reader |
| 01:25:28 | MeRWiN | haven't heard of this so-called text reader, what is it? |
| 01:25:39 | PsycoXul | it's a text viewer for the player |
| 01:25:50 | PsycoXul | showtext.c i think |
| 01:25:51 | PsycoXul | in apps |
| 01:26:00 | MeRWiN | does it work? |
| 01:26:12 | PsycoXul | not yet |
| 01:26:39 | MeRWiN | Who created it? |
| 01:26:43 | PsycoXul | bagder started it and then it's been sitting there for a while |
| 01:27:37 | PsycoXul | i can't even tell whats missing from it... |
| 01:27:57 | MeRWiN | I can't even read it :) |
| 01:28:00 | PsycoXul | but when i tried to add calls to it into the dir browser code it didn't work |
| 01:28:20 | MeRWiN | I find it hard to read other people's code most of the time |
| 01:28:31 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 01:28:39 | PsycoXul | i can't read that particular piece of code too well either |
| 01:28:44 | MeRWiN | do you use the recorder or the player? |
| 01:28:50 | PsycoXul | player |
| 01:29:21 | MeRWiN | what do you think of the current wps options? I'm trying to decide whether or not it's a good idea to pursue getting rid of the 2 line id3 display, when the 1 line id3 display does more than enough |
| 01:29:58 | PsycoXul | i like the 1-line display except that the artist gets in the way |
| 01:30:04 | MeRWiN | ? |
| 01:30:26 | PsycoXul | and it'd be nice if just the id3 info scrolled and not the track #/## display, but i guess thats a limitation of the current scroll code |
| 01:31:04 | MeRWiN | well, i suppose it could be done, but if you had more than 100 tracks, it could take up 7 out of the 11 available characters |
| 01:31:24 | PsycoXul | thats true... |
| 01:31:49 | MeRWiN | how useful do you think the 2 line display is? |
| 01:32:16 | PsycoXul | i stopped using it as soon as the 1-line display got put in |
| 01:32:27 | MeRWiN | 1 line display is already put in |
| 01:32:47 | PsycoXul | that whole sentence was past-tense wasn't it? heh |
| 01:33:05 | PsycoXul | "stopped" "got" ... |
| 01:33:06 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:33:12 | MeRWiN | oh, sorry... i misread it |
| 01:33:13 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 01:33:24 | MeRWiN | I thought you said you would stop using it when it got put in |
| 01:34:02 | PsycoXul | personally what i'd like best |
| 01:34:11 | PsycoXul | is to configure exactly what is on each line and where |
| 01:34:32 | MeRWiN | That could be accomplished |
| 01:34:52 | MeRWiN | in fact, I may just do that... it would be pretty easy |
| 01:35:16 | PsycoXul | yeah it could replace all the wps display modes with just a single configurable one... |
| 01:35:33 | MeRWiN | well, it would have to be an editable file that would be loaded... |
| 01:35:39 | MeRWiN | too hard to edit it in the player :) |
| 01:36:41 | PsycoXul | i was thinking like you config 1 line at a time, and use the up/down keys to switch the "value" [artist,filename,trackname,etc] of the current "field" [possition on line] and -/+ to move between fields |
| 01:36:45 | PsycoXul | kinda thing... |
| 01:37:48 | MeRWiN | I was thinking something like %e/%d: %a - %t |
| 01:37:50 | MeRWiN | something like that |
| 01:38:06 | PsycoXul | then the value's could be like $A or some short symbols like that and then the 2nd line in the display would show what the symbol meant |
| 01:38:10 | PsycoXul | MeRWiN: yeah thats probably better |
| 01:38:27 | PsycoXul | i didn't think about putting extra chars in there |
| 01:38:43 | MeRWiN | and start a line with %s to scroll it or something |
| 01:38:54 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 01:39:25 | PsycoXul | and then if we get sub-line scrolling we can have like "%e/%d: %s%a - %t" if we wanted... |
| 01:39:38 | MeRWiN | yeah |
| 01:41:50 | PsycoXul | and if you wanted to get real fancy you could have some sorta conditional statements so that if %d>99 then use "%s%e/%d: %a - %t" else "%e/%d: %s%a - %t" :p |
| 01:42:20 | BoD[] | by the way would it be possible to have a one-pixel scrolling ? |
| 01:42:23 | MeRWiN | I'll stick to the easy one to begin with :-) |
| 01:42:41 | PsycoXul | BoD[]: on the recorder i would think so |
| 01:42:53 | BoD[] | yes that would be great ! |
| 01:43:02 | PsycoXul | BoD[]: on the player it'd be very difficult, limited, and ugly... basically no... heh |
| 01:43:17 | BoD[] | yeah I can imagine that :) |
| 01:43:25 | BoD[] | but i have a recorder :) |
| 01:43:31 | PsycoXul | well good for you :p |
| 01:43:37 | BoD[] | the look is important ! |
| 01:44:09 | BoD[] | see for example they did it for winamp3 ! the scrolling is not good looking on winamp2 but with the 3 it's... smooth :) |
| 01:44:32 | PsycoXul | yeah i'd like smooth scrolling too |
| 01:44:56 | BoD[] | yes :) |
| 01:45:03 | BoD[] | maybe that would be too slow, though |
| 01:45:18 | PsycoXul | its too bad i've got a device that cost like ~$200 and have seen $15 toys with better LCD's :p |
| 01:45:46 | BoD[] | yup :( |
| 01:46:07 | BoD[] | but at least the $15 thing can't play mp3 ;) |
| 01:46:22 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 01:46:46 | MeRWiN | PsycoXul: if we could rewrite the firmware they damn well would :) |
| 01:46:59 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 01:47:35 | BoD[] | i have to go to bed now .. see you ! bye |
| 01:47:39 | PsycoXul | night |
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| 01:48:18 | PsycoXul | MeRWiN: btw there's no reason we can't actualy do text input on players ok |
| 01:48:34 | PsycoXul | MeRWiN: i mean you could enter your name on a nintendo game with a direction pad and 2 buttons right? |
| 01:50:30 | MeRWiN | yeah |
| 01:50:32 | MeRWiN | true |
| 01:50:41 | MeRWiN | what does the read() function return? |
| 01:51:03 | PsycoXul | could even have different layouts to make it easier for people... someone not familiar with anything can have it alphabetical like the nes did, normal people can have a mangled-qwerty kinda layout, and smart people can use a mangled dvorak-style layout (which makes the most sense for these kinda things :p) |
| 01:51:24 | PsycoXul | don't ask me, i haven't used it yet ... heh |
| 01:51:29 | PsycoXul | look at the code |
| 01:51:41 | MeRWiN | *grin* |
| 01:55:26 | PsycoXul | holy shit. mozilla actualy finished building without errors |
| 01:55:32 | * | PsycoXul is in shock |
| 01:57:12 | MeRWiN | wow |
| 01:57:14 | MeRWiN | nicE :) |
| 01:58:23 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 01:58:37 | PsycoXul | i enabled some thing that i guess doesn't generaly get enabled or that i didn't pass some necessary option for |
| 01:58:50 | PsycoXul | and it couldn't find a header that it had cause of it's include search path's and was erroring on it |
| 01:59:12 | PsycoXul | took me forever to make it have the header some place it looked for it, and i was sure that fixing just that would cause more errors later... but it didn't heh |
| 01:59:32 | MeRWiN | :P |
| 01:59:48 | PsycoXul | even made myself a little tarball package so it's easy to install |
| 02:00 |
| 02:01:44 | PsycoXul | last time i built mozilla i couldn't figure out how to make a clean install from what it built... there seems to be better instructions now for that sorta thing |
| 02:01:49 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 02:02:03 | MeRWiN | any clue how to print the VB equivalient of asc("d") |
| 02:02:14 | MeRWiN | in c |
| 02:02:28 | PsycoXul | i dunno anything about VB |
| 02:02:38 | PsycoXul | whats that do? heh |
| 02:02:44 | MeRWiN | basically, i want the ascii equivalent of a letter |
| 02:03:02 | PsycoXul | ah |
| 02:04:03 | PsycoXul | well hmm wouldn't you just use 'd'? heh |
| 02:04:17 | PsycoXul | shouldn't the numeric value of 'd' be that? |
| 02:04:41 | PsycoXul | i dunno sorry |
| 02:07:46 | MeRWiN | whoops, I was using "d" |
| 02:07:48 | MeRWiN | not 'd' |
| 02:12:38 | PsycoXul | so lets see if this new mozilla works |
| 02:13:58 | MeRWiN | i'm getting closer to this working |
| 02:14:38 | MeRWiN | already got the text parsing working... just need the conditional statements and string building |
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| 02:18:03 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:18:12 | PsycoXul | nice |
| 02:18:19 | MeRWiN | this shit is easy :) |
| 02:19:09 | MeRWiN | Hmmm... I think to start, I'll have the first line just be the scrolling text and the 2nd line always be the time display |
| 02:19:24 | PsycoXul | sounds fine for now |
| 02:19:49 | PsycoXul | but my mozilla's not running :/ |
| 02:20:29 | MeRWiN | ouch |
| 02:20:45 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:20:56 | PsycoXul | > mozilla |
| 02:20:56 | PsycoXul | /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgkgfx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 02:21:02 | PsycoXul | > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla |
| 02:21:11 | PsycoXul | > mozilla |
| 02:21:11 | PsycoXul | ÚÄ[psyco@psyco] ~) |
| 02:21:11 | PsycoXul | ÀÄ$Ä> |
| 02:21:13 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:21:28 | PsycoXul | it doesn't even start up or no error or nothing now :/ |
| 02:21:34 | MeRWiN | hmm |
| 02:21:54 | MeRWiN | how do you do a case else in c? |
| 02:22:14 | PsycoXul | huh? |
| 02:22:21 | PsycoXul | i don't know of any else in cases... |
| 02:22:30 | MeRWiN | the default case if none of the other cases match it |
| 02:22:37 | PsycoXul | ah |
| 02:22:44 | PsycoXul | um.. i know this but i forget :p |
| 02:23:30 | MeRWiN | apparently it accepts default: |
| 02:23:39 | PsycoXul | yeah i think thats it |
| 02:25:02 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 02:27:06 | PsycoXul | ok |
| 02:27:26 | PsycoXul | so mozilla works... |
| 02:27:36 | PsycoXul | it just didn't like me trying to mangle it's install path's |
| 02:28:01 | PsycoXul | all i want is it's bins to be in a standard bin dir while the rest is in /usr/lib/mozilla :/ |
| 02:28:13 | PsycoXul | but NOoooo it's GOTTA have its bins run from the same dir as the rest of it |
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| 02:32:16 | MeRWiN | oh my god, it works |
| 02:32:18 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 02:33:05 | PsycoXul | nice |
| 02:34:48 | PsycoXul | gahhh... |
| 02:34:51 | PsycoXul | mozilla's fullscreen sucks |
| 02:35:21 | PsycoXul | it switches to my normal desktop resolution |
| 02:35:27 | PsycoXul | when i've got it zoomed on mozilla |
| 02:36:03 | PsycoXul | which i want to stay at 1024x768 cause everything's unreadable on my small screen with it bigger heh |
| 02:40:08 | MeRWiN | ack |
| 02:40:12 | MeRWiN | that sucks |
| 02:41:15 | PsycoXul | yeah my window manager has this nice feature |
| 02:41:42 | PsycoXul | where you hit alt-enter on any window on your desktop, and it switches to the best resolution to fit it and fullscreens it |
| 02:41:55 | MeRWiN | wow... i REALLY like that |
| 02:41:59 | MeRWiN | I wish windows had that |
| 02:42:32 | PsycoXul | but when i've done that to mozilla and then do mozilla's fullscreen mozilla undoes it and goes back to my normal res |
| 02:42:51 | MeRWiN | i say you edit the code of moozilla |
| 02:43:08 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:43:21 | PsycoXul | i don't wanna recompile all that again untill somebody qualified fixes it :p |
| 02:43:34 | PsycoXul | i'll just whine at this guy i know who's a build engineer at netscape heh |
| 02:43:44 | MeRWiN | good idea |
| 02:44:18 | PsycoXul | and untill then, well i've lived without mozilla's silly little fullscreen this long :p |
| 02:45:29 | PsycoXul | but yeah that alt-enter thing is almost necessary when running 1280x1024 on a 15" :p |
| 02:45:55 | MeRWiN | yeah |
| 02:48:35 | MeRWiN | easy solution... 17" monitor |
| 02:49:25 | PsycoXul | i just wish E had more good themes... |
| 02:50:23 | PsycoXul | they're all either boring or unweildly, and most of them too light and too blue heh |
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| 03:13:02 | MeRWiN | yay, did it |
| 03:34:24 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 03:50:46 | MeRWiN | I think this one is commitable |
| 03:51:09 | elinenbe | what is it? |
| 03:51:36 | MeRWiN | Custom WPS display for the player. It uses something like %i/%l: %c * %sKB to display the first line of the WPS, and the 2nd line is the time |
| 03:51:45 | MeRWiN | in a file called wps.custom |
| 03:52:31 | elinenbe | is it configurable on the player? |
| 03:52:34 | elinenbe | ahh.... |
| 03:52:40 | elinenbe | that sounds like a great idea. |
| 03:52:48 | MeRWiN | It's implemented :) |
| 03:52:55 | elinenbe | what tags/ parts of the filename are supported? |
| 03:53:10 | MeRWiN | Every tag and part of the filename, filesize, bitrates, etc |
| 03:53:39 | MeRWiN | This will get rid of all of the fighting over WPS settings :) |
| 03:54:27 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:54:50 | PsycoXul | so it reads the config from a file? |
| 03:55:06 | elinenbe | it would be great if it was configurable on the player. That would kepp the box a rockin' |
| 03:55:16 | MeRWiN | hmm.. our file open routine seems to open "wps.configs" when I tell it to open "wps.config" (to test when the file doesn't exist) |
| 03:55:36 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 03:56:31 | MeRWiN | there is also a problem with menus now. grr... somebody screwed it up :) (not my patch!) |
| 03:56:37 | MeRWiN | PsycoXul: do you have the latest cvs on your player? |
| 03:56:39 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:59:02 | PsycoXul | i do now |
| 03:59:17 | MeRWiN | PsycoXul: go to the menu and scroll down... is it screwed up? |
| 03:59:39 | PsycoXul | Inforal Se |
| 03:59:40 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 03:59:45 | MeRWiN | ok, not just me :-) |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:27 | PsycoXul | ok |
| 04:00:49 | PsycoXul | and the skip behaviour's also weird when you skip while paused |
| 04:00:56 | MeRWiN | that's a new feature :) |
| 04:01:07 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:01:14 | PsycoXul | well it works like it should normally |
| 04:01:24 | PsycoXul | it skips to the beginning of the track if it's not within the 1st 3 seconds |
| 04:01:32 | MeRWiN | yup |
| 04:01:35 | PsycoXul | but when paused |
| 04:01:39 | PsycoXul | it skips to the previous track still |
| 04:01:47 | MeRWiN | That is correct, no? |
| 04:01:51 | PsycoXul | and it keeps the paused symbol there but the time counts up |
| 04:01:55 | MeRWiN | oooh |
| 04:02:06 | PsycoXul | no skip behaviour while paused should be the same as while playing |
| 04:02:29 | PsycoXul | i like to pause a track that's already played past the first 3 seconds, hit back and then unpause when i'm ready to listen to that same track from the beginning |
| 04:02:42 | MeRWiN | true |
| 04:02:50 | PsycoXul | it should be consistent heh |
| 04:03:01 | PsycoXul | but as the time's counting on the other thing |
| 04:03:10 | PsycoXul | i can't hear if it's playing or not, i need to go get my headphones :p |
| 04:04:18 | PsycoXul | ok it does keep playing |
| 04:04:25 | PsycoXul | this time i think it stayed on the same track though |
| 04:04:31 | PsycoXul | bit it started playing while keeping the pause symbol |
| 04:05:38 | PsycoXul | yeat it's staying within track now.. i dunno why it went back a track the last time... |
| 04:05:43 | PsycoXul | or the first time rather.. |
| 04:05:44 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:06:21 | PsycoXul | but it still starts playing and keeping the pause symbol then you have to press play and it gets the play symbol, then play again pauses it finaly heh |
| 04:07:53 | MeRWiN | whoops |
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| 04:19:14 | MeRWiN | elinenbe: you there? |
| 04:21:21 | MeRWiN | I think i'm going to commit this (and the doc on the tags) |
| 04:26:22 | MeRWiN | PsycoXul: synch your apps and docs folder |
| 04:26:32 | MeRWiN | PsycoXul: I added it |
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| 04:34:05 | MeRWiN | heya adi |
| 04:34:07 | adi|dads | howdy |
| 04:34:11 | adi|dads | how goes it? |
| 04:35:14 | MeRWiN | good, check out the newest CVS addition (not posted on the website yet). Customizable WPS display (loaded from the disk). The docs are in /docs/CUSTOM_WPS_FORMAT |
| 04:35:28 | MeRWiN | courtesy of me :P |
| 04:35:29 | adi|dads | nice |
| 04:35:34 | adi|dads | you wrote the docs? |
| 04:35:36 | adi|dads | sweet :) |
| 04:35:36 | MeRWiN | yup |
| 04:35:43 | adi|dads | glad to see that dir is being used |
| 04:35:45 | MeRWiN | It NEEDS docs... it uses tags |
| 04:35:51 | adi|dads | was a pain in the ass to get it going... |
| 04:36:25 | MeRWiN | i bet |
| 04:39:06 | MeRWiN | besides, I like writing docs |
| 04:39:07 | adi|dads | one thing |
| 04:39:14 | adi|dads | as you add stuff to that dir |
| 04:39:19 | adi|dads | make sure you add the files to FILES |
| 04:39:22 | MeRWiN | ahh |
| 04:39:23 | MeRWiN | ok |
| 04:39:27 | adi|dads | FILES is what is used to build our packages |
| 04:39:29 | adi|dads | ill fix :) |
| 04:39:35 | MeRWiN | OK |
| 04:40:23 | adi|dads | fixed :) |
| 04:40:46 | MeRWiN | koo. thanx |
| 04:41:01 | adi|dads | hmmm.. im starting to wonder... |
| 04:41:06 | adi|dads | if we are going to have config files |
| 04:41:19 | adi|dads | if it makes sense to have a 'rockbox' dir on the root of the player/rec |
| 04:41:26 | adi|dads | to store stuff like that |
| 04:42:39 | adi|dads | your doc is wrong |
| 04:42:50 | adi|dads | the example shows 2:23/3:01 |
| 04:43:05 | adi|dads | but with no mention of it in the explainaton example string |
| 04:43:19 | MeRWiN | excuse me? |
| 04:43:22 | adi|dads | you need to add %e/%o on another line |
| 04:43:32 | adi|dads | %i/%l: %c * %sKB |
| 04:43:34 | adi|dads | is what you have |
| 04:43:38 | MeRWiN | no, because it's explained that the time is automatically put on the 2nd line |
| 04:43:38 | adi|dads | %i/%l: %c * %sKB |
| 04:43:40 | MeRWiN | it's non-configurable |
| 04:43:48 | adi|dads | ahhh okay :) |
| 04:43:57 | MeRWiN | read the description! :-) |
| 04:44:01 | adi|dads | heheh sorry |
| 04:44:12 | MeRWiN | np |
| 04:44:13 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 04:44:31 | adi|dads | hmmm if elapsed and total time are _always_ displayed.. why are they options? |
| 04:44:51 | MeRWiN | I dunno, for future expansion once the 2nd line is customizable |
| 04:44:56 | adi|dads | got ya... |
| 04:44:59 | MeRWiN | or for retards that want the time displayed twice |
| 04:45:08 | adi|dads | you may want to add %% also |
| 04:45:17 | adi|dads | so that you can show a percentage sign |
| 04:45:43 | MeRWiN | Oh... ture |
| 04:45:44 | MeRWiN | true |
| 04:45:51 | adi|dads | ie: we may want %%played |
| 04:45:52 | MeRWiN | i thought about that beforehand but didn't put that in |
| 04:46:16 | adi|dads | which in our case would appear as: %<filepath>layed |
| 04:46:18 | adi|dads | wouldn't it? |
| 04:46:32 | MeRWiN | ? |
| 04:46:37 | adi|dads | well... |
| 04:46:42 | MeRWiN | %%played would end up as %played |
| 04:46:43 | adi|dads | if you put "%p" |
| 04:46:48 | adi|dads | right.. |
| 04:46:53 | adi|dads | but what does it do _now_? |
| 04:47:00 | adi|dads | does it handle %% now to display %? |
| 04:47:04 | MeRWiN | right now it gets the % and discards the 2nd % |
| 04:47:07 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 04:47:09 | adi|dads | okay :) |
| 04:47:13 | MeRWiN | so it displays nothing for that |
| 04:47:14 | adi|dads | what if you have %%p? |
| 04:47:22 | MeRWiN | it would display just p |
| 04:47:24 | MeRWiN | at the moment |
| 04:47:26 | adi|dads | nods |
| 04:47:29 | MeRWiN | i'm fixing that as we speak |
| 04:47:33 | adi|dads | thats wrong :) |
| 04:47:45 | MeRWiN | %%p should display %p |
| 04:47:47 | adi|dads | hehehe just think... %%%p |
| 04:47:48 | adi|dads | lol |
| 04:47:51 | adi|dads | nods right |
| 04:48:01 | adi|dads | %%%p to get %<pathname> |
| 04:48:17 | MeRWiN | yup |
| 04:48:23 | adi|dads | sweet patch though :) |
| 04:48:38 | MeRWiN | It was needed |
| 04:49:45 | MeRWiN | in snprintf if i do snprintf(tmpbuf, sizeof(tmpbuf), "%"), will it display % ? |
| 04:50:54 | adi|dads | no you need to do %% if i remember correctly |
| 04:51:04 | adi|dads | so if you want to display %% |
| 04:51:07 | adi|dads | you need %%%% |
| 04:51:10 | MeRWiN | shit, i forgot to commit wps.h |
| 04:51:29 | adi|dads | spelling: flexable or flexible? |
| 04:51:40 | MeRWiN | flexible i think |
| 04:51:43 | adi|dads | k |
| 04:55:50 | elinenbe | It seems silly not to have the second line be customizable too... |
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| 05:00:23 | adi|dads | hehe so fix it then ;) |
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| 05:01:47 | MeRWiN | god damn i hate the usb mode. it bluescreens win2k if you do it wrong :) |
| 05:03:06 | adi|dads | lol |
| 05:03:09 | adi|dads | get linuxs ;) |
| 05:03:22 | adi|dads | s/xs/x/ |
| 05:03:38 | MeRWiN | it's a work laptop |
| 05:03:41 | MeRWiN | closest i can get is vmware |
| 05:04:38 | adi|dads | nods |
| 05:04:45 | adi|dads | you could do the same in reverse |
| 05:04:47 | adi|dads | load linux |
| 05:04:52 | adi|dads | run vmware for win2k in it :) |
| 05:04:59 | adi|dads | so when it crashes, you just kill the process |
| 05:05:03 | adi|dads | buddy at work did it.. |
| 05:05:09 | MeRWiN | hmm... the custom_wps_format.html doesn't have proper line breaks in it for a double newline |
| 05:05:17 | adi|dads | he killed that window like 4 times a day when he was wokring on his Palm software :) |
| 05:05:29 | adi|dads | hmm.. one sec |
| 05:05:37 | MeRWiN | I can't quite do that, because I'd have to have the IT manager add the computer to the domain |
| 05:05:41 | MeRWiN | i don't think he'd be keen on that |
| 05:06:14 | adi|dads | got ya |
| 05:06:47 | adi|dads | hmm.. ill see if i can fix the file |
| 05:06:56 | MeRWiN | k |
| 05:09:26 | elinenbe | It seems silly not to have the second line be customizable too... |
| 05:09:45 | MeRWiN | yeah... that will come in a bit |
| 05:10:13 | elinenbe | why isn't it there now? |
| 05:10:26 | elinenbe | I am just wondering |
| 05:10:33 | MeRWiN | The only problem is that the time display is updated constantly... The line it's on can't scroll, due to it being updated numerous times per second |
| 05:10:47 | MeRWiN | which introduces problems to customizing it |
| 05:11:55 | elinenbe | ahhhhh... |
| 05:13:20 | MeRWiN | So i figure that leaving only one line being customized is better at this point |
| 05:13:46 | MeRWiN | 19 people this year have been run over by NJ trains :P |
| 05:18:40 | MeRWiN | gotta jet, be back later |
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| 05:37:19 | adi|dads | okay... i hacked a new .pl to handle plain text |
| 05:37:27 | adi|dads | so we have one for FAQS and one for normal txt.. |
| 05:37:31 | adi|dads | that should fix the prob i hope |
| 05:37:40 | MeRWiN | hopefully |
| 05:37:40 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 05:37:50 | adi|dads | if not they can bitch at me later ;) |
| 05:37:55 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 05:38:01 | MeRWiN | i'm trying to find a crack for the new vmware |
| 05:39:09 | adi|dads | ahh.. can't help you there... |
| 05:39:10 | MeRWiN | woo, found it |
| 05:39:13 | * | adi|dads needs a shower.. brb |
| 05:39:24 | * | MeRWiN things adi stinks |
| 05:39:29 | * | adi|dads nods |
| 05:39:37 | adi|dads | was doing yardwork before my nap... |
| 05:39:42 | adi|dads | now need clean water ;) |
| 05:54:25 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 05:54:37 | MeRWiN | hmm waht |
| 05:54:40 | MeRWiN | what |
| 05:54:47 | PsycoXul | what if you want "Title/Artist" or the filename if no id3? |
| 05:55:23 | MeRWiN | Excuse me? |
| 05:55:29 | PsycoXul | and goddamnit the umount locked up... |
| 05:55:46 | PsycoXul | well the %c says it display's "Artist - Title" |
| 05:56:14 | PsycoXul | i want the fallback to filename but i don't like "Artist - Title" on an 11 char screen heh |
| 05:56:30 | MeRWiN | it scrolls :P |
| 05:56:39 | PsycoXul | yes and the backlight times out |
| 05:56:51 | PsycoXul | and usualy before it's scrolled over to the title which is what i'm more interested in 99% of the time anyways |
| 05:56:53 | MeRWiN | hmm... would Title - Artist be ok, or you want Title/Artist |
| 05:57:11 | PsycoXul | i don't like the way thats handled at all... |
| 05:57:12 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:58:09 | MeRWiN | I'll add an option for Title - Artist also |
| 05:58:36 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 06:00:06 | PsycoXul | there's gonna have to be a better way than that |
| 06:00:26 | MeRWiN | not really... I don't think |
| 06:00:30 | PsycoXul | how it falls back should be configurable in and of itself |
| 06:01:00 | PsycoXul | personaly i'd rather have it fall back to directory parsing |
| 06:01:16 | PsycoXul | and then filename if it can't even do that |
| 06:03:00 | PsycoXul | i'd say even a slightly better way would be to replace the first %a or %t or maybe even %u with the filename and strip out the rest if present when it falls back to a file |
| 06:03:57 | MeRWiN | now that would take me too long to code :-) |
| 06:04:25 | PsycoXul | i mean the whole idea of this is a configurable display, which it still isn't really if the only way to have fallback is to forgo your configuration heh |
| 06:05:35 | MeRWiN | well, fallback is an option that's really hard to configure unless you add extra lines to the wps.config file (ie: a fallback line) |
| 06:06:35 | PsycoXul | well... |
| 06:07:01 | PsycoXul | how about the fallback happens before the wps arrangement or whatever |
| 06:07:15 | MeRWiN | ? |
| 06:07:28 | PsycoXul | or i dunno... |
| 06:07:28 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:07:54 | MeRWiN | I give you a way to customize and all you do is complain about it... geez, children these days :-) |
| 06:08:00 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 06:08:52 | PsycoXul | well to me the WPS is absolutely worthless if it doesn't display Something useful |
| 06:09:13 | MeRWiN | me too |
| 06:09:18 | PsycoXul | which means a WPS that doesn't fall back to display file or dir-parsed info on a file that doesn't have an id3 is worthless |
| 06:09:22 | MeRWiN | which is why i made the original 1 line id3 |
| 06:09:34 | MeRWiN | i personally hate dir parsed :-) |
| 06:09:57 | PsycoXul | well most of my files are aranged Artist/Album/#-Title.mp3 |
| 06:10:08 | MeRWiN | don't they have id3 tags? |
| 06:10:12 | PsycoXul | most of them |
| 06:10:16 | PsycoXul | not all |
| 06:10:31 | MeRWiN | you should write a script to add id3 tags using dir parsing |
| 06:10:56 | PsycoXul | why, when there's already code in rockbox to do the dir parsing? heh |
| 06:11:24 | MeRWiN | because *I* don't like dir parsing :-) |
| 06:11:35 | PsycoXul | a lot of my files are burned as they are on cd's and i'm not going to re-burn them just to back up modified versions so that i've got update backups of what's on my jukebox |
| 06:12:06 | PsycoXul | and such and soforth :p |
| 06:13:03 | PsycoXul | how about just adding some sort of conditional expressions to the format |
| 06:13:16 | PsycoXul | i guess it wouldn't be so easy.. |
| 06:13:26 | MeRWiN | It is doable, but difficult |
| 06:13:43 | MeRWiN | something I can work on during my next 6 hour flight home on friday |
| 06:15:24 | PsycoXul | %?%a%:%a%:%m |
| 06:15:25 | PsycoXul | or something :p |
| 06:15:26 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:15:33 | PsycoXul | heh thats ugly :p |
| 06:15:50 | PsycoXul | and it's probably not even the right syntax for what i was thinking of, i can never remember that crap :p heh |
| 06:16:22 | MeRWiN | Yeah, i'm limited to what I can do with one character |
| 06:16:36 | PsycoXul | it could be a simple this or that |
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| 06:17:17 | MeRWiN | I'll work on it on friday |
| 06:18:10 | PsycoXul | %t%?%m[%a%?%]: %i/%l |
| 06:18:11 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:18:31 | PsycoXul | or something :p |
| 06:18:51 | PsycoXul | anyways i don't mean to give you shit about it |
| 06:19:39 | PsycoXul | i'm mainly just pissed because for no damn reason umount on my jukebox locked up and i'm going to have to reboot to fucking touch it via usb again |
| 06:19:49 | PsycoXul | just because of some random mysterious malfunction |
| 06:20:55 | MeRWiN | heg |
| 06:20:56 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 06:22:42 | PsycoXul | it's really upsetting that for all of linux's otherwise stability, control, and emergency facilities |
| 06:22:53 | PsycoXul | that've let me get out of serious problems without even rebooting before |
| 06:23:36 | PsycoXul | a USB HD can just suddenly stop communicating for no apparent reason and fuck it *all* so that i can't even reboot cleanly when it happens |
| 06:24:05 | PsycoXul | even with the magic-sysreq in the kernel that lets me press a key combo from anywhere and force the kernel to sync and unmount all the filesystems even *IT* loks up on that drive when it gets to it |
| 06:24:48 | PsycoXul | and thats just ridiculous |
| 06:25:33 | PsycoXul | there's no problem with the archos, with it's cable, with the USB controller, or anything anywhere, the battery just got fully charged a few hours ago and has only been used for a few minutes since, and this crap happens anyways |
| 06:25:48 | PsycoXul | and on top of it happening to start with, it flushes everything else down the toilet when it does |
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| 06:29:42 | PsycoXul | god i hate that |
| 06:29:58 | MeRWiN | the usb bluescreens in win2k if you do certain things with the archos also |
| 06:30:13 | PsycoXul | it makes me wonder what i'm even running linux for |
| 06:30:29 | PsycoXul | with this crap going on my parents get better uptime in win98 |
| 06:30:42 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 06:32:11 | MeRWiN | winxp gets damn good uptime |
| 06:33:01 | PsycoXul | before i upgraded to a box with usb... |
| 06:33:04 | PsycoXul | i had 272 days |
| 06:33:16 | PsycoXul | 272 day(s), 15:12:16 running Linux 2.2.19, ended Thu Aug 1 23:13:57 2002 |
| 06:33:47 | MeRWiN | and usb killed that |
| 06:33:52 | MeRWiN | ouch |
| 06:34:54 | PsycoXul | !$&(*#@()!G |
| 06:35:02 | PsycoXul | oh good.. there it goes |
| 06:35:14 | PsycoXul | heh it just took waaay too long to copy wps.config over :p |
| 06:36:35 | MeRWiN | really? |
| 06:38:03 | PsycoXul | volume adjustment's get overwritten by the scrolling of it ... heh |
| 06:38:13 | MeRWiN | That's not why |
| 06:38:20 | PsycoXul | whats not why? |
| 06:38:36 | MeRWiN | I had to set it for 1/6 of a second so if you pressed MENU+RIGHT+RIGHT+RIGHT+RIGHT really quickly, it wouldn't take forever :) |
| 06:38:51 | PsycoXul | huh? |
| 06:39:01 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:42:31 | PsycoXul | well good work on it so far |
| 06:42:54 | PsycoXul | you coded that up quick and it works pretty nice |
| 06:43:10 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 06:43:17 | MeRWiN | It'll be better by saturday hopefully |
| 06:43:38 | MeRWiN | I'm going to also write a sleep() that can be killed by a keypress |
| 06:44:53 | MeRWiN | speaking of sleep, i need to do some myself |
| 06:44:59 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:45:01 | PsycoXul | good night |
| 06:45:07 | MeRWiN | g'nite... |
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| 06:55:55 | adi|dads | merwin before you go |
| 06:56:01 | MeRWiN|Sleep | yeah |
| 06:56:13 | adi|dads | you do title-artist and artist-title |
| 06:56:17 | MeRWiN|Sleep | yeah |
| 06:56:18 | adi|dads | those strings.. how do you get them?> |
| 06:56:25 | MeRWiN|Sleep | what do you mean? |
| 06:56:32 | MeRWiN|Sleep | id3->artist id3->title |
| 06:56:37 | adi|dads | right... |
| 06:56:55 | adi|dads | so then why dont we just add a %F |
| 06:57:00 | adi|dads | compared to %f |
| 06:57:05 | adi|dads | or maybe a %z |
| 06:57:05 | MeRWiN|Sleep | ? |
| 06:57:08 | adi|dads | as a last resort |
| 06:57:16 | adi|dads | and let the %z be defined in the .cfg as well |
| 06:57:26 | adi|dads | so you could do like %z: %a-%f |
| 06:57:43 | MeRWiN|Sleep | what would that do |
| 06:57:45 | adi|dads | so if we don't load info, we dump %a-%f to the screen.. |
| 06:57:49 | * | adi|dads shrugs |
| 06:57:58 | adi|dads | hes looking for answers to psyco's bitch ;) |
| 06:58:02 | MeRWiN|Sleep | if the .config file isn't loaded you mean? |
| 06:58:14 | * | MeRWiN|Sleep loves Our Lady Peace... |
| 06:58:18 | adi|dads | no, if the id3 data is toast.... |
| 06:58:41 | MeRWiN|Sleep | oh, i'll work on the fallback shit on friday... a customizable fallback |
| 06:58:47 | * | adi|dads wonders if he just has everything f'd up in his mind |
| 06:58:50 | adi|dads | k... |
| 06:58:52 | adi|dads | nite :) |
| 06:59:25 | MeRWiN|Sleep | have basically an if statement in the tags |
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| 07:01:02 | MeRWiN|Sleep | woo. mash is on |
| 07:01:34 | adi|dads | nods |
| 07:01:59 | MeRWiN|Sleep | my tag letters really don't mean anything. It's a shame really, but oddly, the output of my tags reminds me of the impossible-to-understand perl code |
| 07:02:18 | adi|dads | hehehe |
| 07:02:36 | MeRWiN|Sleep | In your HTML display of my format specs it still doesn't process double newlines |
| 07:02:43 | MeRWiN|Sleep | :) |
| 07:03:01 | adi|dads | http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/020821/life_diamonds_1.html |
| 07:03:06 | adi|dads | sick sick sick... |
| 07:03:08 | adi|dads | nods |
| 07:03:09 | adi|dads | i know |
| 07:03:16 | adi|dads | im eatting multispaces |
| 07:03:20 | adi|dads | deal with it ;) |
| 07:03:34 | MeRWiN|Sleep | multispaces? a double newline should just be interpreted as <br><br> |
| 07:04:35 | adi|dads | blah blah blah.. bitch bitch bitch |
| 07:04:44 | PsycoXul | WHINE WHINE |
| 07:04:44 | adi|dads | im actually just doing <pre> your file </pre> |
| 07:04:45 | PsycoXul | Naaaag |
| 07:05:03 | PsycoXul | adi|dads: if you're doing that then why would you strip anything from it? |
| 07:05:10 | * | adi|dads nods |
| 07:05:13 | adi|dads | like i said. |
| 07:05:19 | adi|dads | im actually just doing <pre> your file </pre> |
| 07:05:19 | adi|dads | :) |
| 07:05:33 | PsycoXul | well that would leave double lines intact... |
| 07:05:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 07:05:38 | MeRWiN|Sleep | but somehow it doesn't |
| 07:05:43 | * | adi|dads nods |
| 07:05:50 | adi|dads | dunno.. im playing with it no |
| 07:05:51 | adi|dads | now |
| 07:06:03 | MeRWiN|Sleep | no quiero dormir. NO QUIERO DORMIR |
| 07:07:55 | adi|dads | yo quise a poner me carne in tu boca |
| 07:07:56 | adi|dads | lol |
| 07:07:59 | adi|dads | thats all i remember |
| 07:08:00 | adi|dads | that and |
| 07:08:05 | dwihno|gone | siempre viva |
| 07:08:08 | adi|dads | donde esta el quarto de bano |
| 07:08:25 | dwihno|gone | tenga no dinero no amour |
| 07:08:36 | MeRWiN|Sleep | el bano es en su boca |
| 07:08:40 | adi|dads | lol |
| 07:09:04 | MeRWiN|Sleep | yo tengo MUCHO dinero! quiero una puta |
| 07:09:04 | dwihno|gone | hamburgesa con keso, por favor |
| 07:09:07 | MeRWiN|Sleep | pronto |
| 07:09:12 | MeRWiN|Sleep | dwihno|gone: queso |
| 07:11:41 | MeRWiN|Sleep | ok, yo voy a dormir. buenos noches! |
| 07:12:19 | | Nick MeRWiN|Sleep is now known as MeRWiN|Dormir (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) |
| 07:12:19 | dwihno|gone | <−− suffers from disease of the stomach |
| 07:12:20 | dwihno|gone | that suxks |
| 07:12:22 | dwihno|gone | damn damn damn |
| 07:12:29 | MeRWiN|Dormir | dwihno|gone: ack... |
| 07:12:30 | MeRWiN|Dormir | sorry |
| 07:13:25 | dwihno|gone | my employer will probably think I'm hungover since I had my b-day yesterday |
| 07:23:32 | MeRWiN|Dormir | adi|dads: I forgot to mention... let zagor or linus or one of them know that the file opening code is a bit off. It will load a file named something like "wps.configs" if you tell it to open "wps.config" |
| 07:23:53 | MeRWiN|Dormir | adi|dads: i figure you'll talk to them before me. You never seem to sleep |
| 07:26:40 | adi|dads | will do :) |
| 07:33:59 | adi|dads | ill be back |
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| 08:02:05 | Bagder | morning |
| 08:02:24 | MeRWiN|Dormir | morning |
| 08:02:59 | MeRWiN|Dormir | wanted to let you know before i go to bed that the file opening code is off a bit. It will load a file named something like "wps.configs" if you tell it to open "wps.config" |
| 08:09:12 | dwihno|gone | Bagder: is coca cola good for magsjuka? |
| 08:09:34 | Bagder | coca cola is good for eveeeerything |
| 08:09:41 | dwihno|gone | agreed |
| 08:09:48 | | Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
| 08:09:48 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno |
| 08:10:05 | dwihno | When's DevCon? |
| 08:15:53 | Bagder | hehe, good q |
| 08:17:16 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 08:19:48 | | Quit Lowfiler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 08:20:47 | Bagder | still lots of red builds |
| 08:21:47 | MeRWiN|Dormir | It's a variable that's seemingly undeclared |
| 08:21:51 | MeRWiN|Dormir | i'll kill the error |
| 08:22:39 | Bagder | you must declare all variables before the code |
| 08:24:04 | MeRWiN|Dormir | yeah yeah yeah :) |
| 08:24:09 | MeRWiN|Dormir | fixin' it |
| 08:25:29 | MeRWiN|Dormir | that may do it |
| 08:31:01 | MeRWiN|Dormir | Bagder: you get up way too early. It's like 7:30, right? |
| 08:31:12 | Bagder | 8:30 actually |
| 08:31:18 | MeRWiN|Dormir | oooh, ok. that makes more sense :) |
| 08:31:52 | MeRWiN|Dormir | I want it to rebuild to see if i fixed the reds |
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| 08:33:34 | MeRWiN|Dormir | yo wood |
| 08:33:54 | rwood | MeRWiN|Dormir: hi-ho |
| 08:34:18 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 08:34:18 | * | MeRWiN|Dormir is so tired that he's unable to change the channel from "Adventures in babysitting" |
| 08:34:51 | rwood | just downloaded cvs - features now really exceed archos |
| 08:35:05 | MeRWiN|Dormir | rwood: *grin* |
| 08:35:48 | Bagder | in just about 4-5 months of coding |
| 08:36:02 | rwood | however, i am getting "ILLEGAL INSTRUCTION TRAPS" at 0x696exxxx when skipping forward |
| 08:36:08 | Bagder | uugh |
| 08:36:41 | Bagder | MeRWiN|Dormir: hey, strrchr(id3->path, ch) is now made on a NULL id3 pointer |
| 08:36:58 | MeRWiN|Dormir | You sure? |
| 08:37:16 | rwood | Bagder: the pace of progress is amazing |
| 08:37:16 | Bagder | yes |
| 08:37:19 | MeRWiN|Dormir | whoops, have to flip those two |
| 08:37:28 | Bagder | exactly |
| 08:37:29 | MeRWiN|Dormir | ok, commiting :) |
| 08:37:40 | MeRWiN|Dormir | it's 2:30am... i'm a bit out of it |
| 08:37:55 | * | Bagder forgives merwin for his sins ;-) |
| 08:38:37 | MeRWiN|Dormir | 50 hail mary's |
| 08:38:39 | MeRWiN|Dormir | :P |
| 08:38:47 | MeRWiN|Dormir | woo, got it in before the automatic compile |
| 08:38:57 | Bagder | hehe |
| 08:43:11 | MeRWiN|Dormir | yay, all clear. I'm going to bed |
| 08:43:33 | Bagder | night merwin |
| 08:43:38 | MeRWiN|Dormir | night |
| 08:43:43 | MeRWiN|Dormir | or morning rather |
| 08:43:44 | MeRWiN|Dormir | :P |
| 08:43:51 | | Nick MeRWiN|Dormir is now known as MeRWiN|Sleep (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) |
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| 08:49:10 | adi|dads | woah... look at all the reds that were there... |
| 08:49:13 | adi|dads | icky icky icky |
| 08:49:19 | Bagder | indeed |
| 08:49:29 | adi|dads | Bagder.. i bastardized your txt2plain.pl |
| 08:49:35 | adi|dads | we now have txt2html.pl |
| 08:49:40 | adi|dads | and faq2html.pl |
| 08:49:45 | Bagder | ah, goodie |
| 08:49:51 | adi|dads | and the makefile hits the right one... |
| 08:49:54 | Bagder | the txt2plain become very wrong anyway |
| 08:49:57 | Bagder | the name |
| 08:50:02 | adi|dads | but the txt2 is _very_ basic... |
| 08:50:12 | adi|dads | hehe look ;) |
| 08:50:19 | * | adi|dads nods |
| 08:50:21 | adi|dads | i noticed |
| 08:50:23 | adi|dads | thus the rename |
| 08:50:29 | Bagder | all good |
| 08:50:34 | adi|dads | im going to pull it from the cvs in a bit... |
| 08:52:08 | adi|dads | okay. its gone |
| 08:52:10 | adi|dads | all clean again |
| 08:52:32 | adi|dads | so.. i was thnking... with the wp_config.cfg thingy.. |
| 08:52:54 | adi|dads | does it make sense to consider the creation of a rockbox dir on the archos sometime in the near future for such files? |
| 08:52:57 | adi|dads | and fonts etc |
| 08:52:59 | Bagder | yes |
| 08:53:03 | Bagder | indeed |
| 08:53:09 | Bagder | I propose a .rockbox dir |
| 08:53:22 | adi|dads | normally id agree... |
| 08:53:24 | Bagder | and then Bill Napier's . patch |
| 08:53:36 | adi|dads | but its a bit nasty for windows users no? |
| 08:53:42 | Bagder | is it? |
| 08:54:12 | Bagder | hm, yes it is |
| 08:54:26 | Bagder | crappy os |
| 08:54:32 | adi|dads | nods |
| 08:54:38 | Bagder | ok then, just rockbox then |
| 08:57:10 | Bagder | I don't like how the custom wps code reads from the file very often |
| 08:57:28 | adi|dads | hmm..? define very often |
| 08:57:56 | Bagder | *very* often |
| 08:57:58 | adi|dads | oh, yeah.. MeRWiN|Sleep said there was a bug in it somewhere.. that it was tacking on an 's' at the end of the file at times and he wasn't sure why |
| 08:58:14 | adi|dads | hmmm it should just be read into memory at start... |
| 08:58:18 | Bagder | yes |
| 08:58:28 | Bagder | this one reads the file on draw_screen() |
| 08:58:31 | adi|dads | hmmmm... that should be an easy fix... |
| 08:58:33 | adi|dads | ACK! |
| 08:58:34 | adi|dads | bad |
| 08:58:35 | adi|dads | bad |
| 08:58:37 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK adi|dads |
| 08:58:37 | adi|dads | bad |
| 08:59:15 | Bagder | yeah, there should be a maximum size allowed, and then just attempt to read that much data at first invoke |
| 08:59:40 | adi|dads | nods |
| 08:59:44 | adi|dads | id say... |
| 08:59:47 | adi|dads | every option |
| 08:59:59 | adi|dads | with a " - " between each would be a good max |
| 09:00 |
| 09:00:11 | adi|dads | so figure option count * 4? |
| 09:00:36 | Bagder | yeah, so something like 128 bytes will do |
| 09:00:51 | adi|dads | nods that makes sense |
| 09:00:56 | adi|dads | can we spare it? |
| 09:01:23 | Bagder | :-) |
| 09:01:40 | Bagder | by adding this, we might be able to cut out some other display code |
| 09:01:57 | Bagder | some of the hard-coded wps "modes" could use a hardcoded format string |
| 09:02:04 | adi|dads | ill take that as a yes :) |
| 09:02:11 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:02:12 | adi|dads | nods |
| 09:02:16 | adi|dads | makes sense... |
| 09:03:21 | adi|dads | lol |
| 09:03:25 | adi|dads | faq is 293 lines long |
| 09:05:42 | Hes | Hmm, FAQs look much better now |
| 09:06:16 | Bagder | yes, now they look as if they were made in html ;-) |
| 09:06:44 | Hes | I'm wondering how to incorporate fortune 8-) |
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| 09:08:11 | Bagder | Hes: what do you mean? |
| 09:08:25 | Hes | where to put it and it's data, and whether to commit it 8-) |
| 09:09:02 | Hes | settings menu should have a submenu of useless settings 8-) |
| 09:09:25 | Hes | and there, an option to enable fortune... and at boot it'd show a fortune cookie and wait for a keypress |
| 09:09:57 | Hes | Or... maybe no need to have a setting, just fail quietly if the data files are not installed (the 500k fortune database and it's index file) |
| 09:10:05 | Bagder | imo, the data file needn't be in cvs |
| 09:10:12 | Hes | Definetely very unnecessary bloat but I like it. |
| 09:10:21 | Hes | Agreed. |
| 09:10:30 | Bagder | I think we can offer it on the site anyway |
| 09:10:37 | Hes | What about the code? |
| 09:10:44 | Bagder | and then the code goes into apps/, |
| 09:10:53 | Bagder | this is recorder code? |
| 09:11:06 | Bagder | or do you plan to run it on players too? |
| 09:11:12 | Hes | it should work on the player too if showtext() works there |
| 09:11:45 | Bagder | ok, so I suggest you make an apps/fortune.c or something |
| 09:15:27 | adi|dads | bagder.. in your perl scripts |
| 09:15:31 | adi|dads | what does 'last' do? |
| 09:15:34 | Hes | Argh |
| 09:15:43 | Hes | showtext() only knows how to show files |
| 09:15:52 | adi|dads | so.. fix it :) |
| 09:15:56 | adi|dads | what do you want it to do? |
| 09:15:58 | Bagder | adi|dads: what 'break' does in C, it skips out of loops |
| 09:16:05 | adi|dads | ahh cool.. ty |
| 09:16:18 | Hes | want to show from a buffer |
| 09:16:41 | Bagder | Hes: showtext() isn't being used anyway, it is only my rather basic efforts on a text reader |
| 09:16:52 | Hes | Does it work? |
| 09:16:58 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:17:02 | Bagder | at least it used to |
| 09:17:12 | Hes | I didn't feel like writing my own word wrapping code now |
| 09:17:26 | Hes | my fortune.c currently simply wraps at the end of the screen |
| 09:18:06 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:18:06 | * | Hes has a Toshiba MK4018GAB 40G spindle on his desk |
| 09:18:36 | Hes | The "Rattle noise is normal." on the top Caution sticker is funny. |
| 09:18:49 | Bagder | heheh |
| 09:21:30 | Bagder | Floating exception (core dumped) |
| 09:21:33 | Bagder | :-( |
| 09:23:05 | Bagder | hm |
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| 09:28:55 | Bagder | I found a way to crash the mpeg thread |
| 09:29:44 | Bagder | by playing a zero-byte .mp3 file |
| 09:34:10 | Bagder | anyone knows how small the smallest possible mp3 file is? |
| 09:34:28 | Bagder | would be one frame |
| 09:35:10 | Bagder | but how small can one frame be? |
| 09:39:30 | | Quit rwood () |
| 09:52:01 | Hes | The header is umm... 3 bytes? |
| 09:53:05 | Hes | if CRC, there's 2 bytes of it |
| 09:54:17 | Hes | smallest bitrate is 8 kHz |
| 09:54:40 | Hes | smallest sampling rate 8 kHz as well |
| 09:55:50 | Hes | humm |
| 09:56:18 | Hes | Trying to parse C code which i wrote a couple years ago to parse frames and cut a stream going through this filter to 1-hour files 8-) |
| 09:56:23 | Hes | and cut at frame boundary |
| 09:56:34 | Hes | it decodes the length of each frame |
| 09:59:08 | Hes | BAH ! |
| 09:59:09 | Hes | hessu@hessu-pc:~$> lame -r -m m -b 8 -s 8 - short.mp3 < /dev/null |
| 09:59:09 | Hes | Assuming raw pcm input file |
| 09:59:09 | Hes | LAME version 3.92 (http://www.mp3dev.org/) |
| 09:59:09 | Hes | Using polyphase lowpass filter, transition band: 2742 Hz - 2839 Hz |
| 09:59:11 | Hes | Encoding <stdin> to short.mp3 |
| 09:59:14 | Hes | Encoding as 8 kHz 8 kbps single-ch MPEG-2.5 Layer III (16x) qval=2 |
| 09:59:16 | Hes | hessu@hessu-pc:~$> ls -l short.mp3 |
| 09:59:19 | Hes | -rw-rw-r−− 1 hessu hessu 216 Aug 22 10:58 short.mp3 |
| 09:59:21 | Hes | hessu@hessu-pc:~$> |
| 09:59:24 | Hes | That's probably the shortest it can be 8-) |
| 09:59:33 | adi|dads | bagder.. need an opinion on something |
| 09:59:34 | Bagder | thanks |
| 09:59:44 | adi|dads | http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/faq.html |
| 09:59:45 | Bagder | then my new check for < 8 bytes isn't too far out ;-) |
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| 10:00:04 | adi|dads | basically.. a menu for the faqs |
| 10:00:54 | adi|dads | damn.. screwd it p.. hold on |
| 10:01:04 | Bagder | I think the "oversized" questions make any kind of index look pretty odd |
| 10:01:13 | Bagder | I experimented with that myself too |
| 10:01:24 | | Quit Hes ("reboot") |
| 10:01:34 | adi|dads | i know.. i just don't know what to do with it :( |
| 10:01:49 | Bagder | well, me neither so I ditched the index plans ;-) |
| 10:01:54 | adi|dads | lol |
| 10:01:56 | adi|dads | now you tell me ;) |
| 10:02:20 | Bagder | it only proves you need to read ALL the irc logs from when you're absent :-P |
| 10:02:32 | adi|dads | bah.. humbug ;) |
| 10:02:48 | adi|dads | just proves you guys need to start following est instead of zulu :) |
| 10:02:59 | Bagder | hehe |
| 10:04:39 | adi|dads | Bagder the multi 0 length files... |
| 10:04:44 | adi|dads | you mention the sim going nuts |
| 10:04:49 | Bagder | yes |
| 10:04:51 | adi|dads | can i assume its looping continuously? |
| 10:04:56 | Bagder | right |
| 10:05:00 | adi|dads | easy fix |
| 10:05:08 | adi|dads | we know how many files are in the dir correct? |
| 10:05:13 | adi|dads | or atleast our listing of it |
| 10:05:22 | Bagder | in the playlist, yes |
| 10:05:29 | Bagder | the dir is made into a playlist in ram |
| 10:05:32 | adi|dads | shrugs |
| 10:05:44 | adi|dads | keep count of # of successive 0 length files |
| 10:05:45 | Bagder | but yes, if 'steps' is bigger than the list, it should return null |
| 10:07:04 | adi|dads | then.. if the count is == the dir count, stop moving forward.. |
| 10:07:07 | * | adi|dads shrugs |
| 10:17:17 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 10:17:45 | * | Bagder got an interesting mail |
| 10:18:21 | Bagder | "Dear Daniel, Just checking with you how do I register for IRC if I am in Japan ? I would like to download the program and start chatting with friends. Please enlighten me if you have any information." |
| 10:20:14 | Bagder | weirdos |
| 10:27:34 | adi|dads | retard would be the word i would choose |
| 10:28:42 | Bagder | I guess he found my irc history page or something |
| 10:31:36 | | Join notch|out [0] (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) |
| 10:32:00 | Bagder | hey notch |
| 10:32:13 | notch|out | hey |
| 10:32:19 | | Nick notch|out is now known as notch (hidden-use@arthur.techprt.co.uk) |
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| 11:14:51 | | Join ironi [0] (~ironi@as1-5-7.hka.j.bonet.se) |
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| 11:17:41 | Lowfiler | morning @ll |
| 11:17:51 | matsl | morning |
| 11:23:16 | ironi | hello |
| 11:23:40 | dwihno | dokhtar irouni |
| 11:23:49 | ironi | =) |
| 11:24:17 | Lowfiler | some1 here who compiles with windows? |
| 11:24:32 | dwihno | me does |
| 11:26:09 | Lowfiler | when i use gnu-sh and type make -f win32.mak |
| 11:26:16 | Lowfiler | the following error appears |
| 11:26:52 | Lowfiler | mpeg.o(.text+0x110c): undefined reference to `bitswap' |
| 11:26:52 | Lowfiler | make: *** [archos.elf] Error 1 |
| 11:27:11 | Lowfiler | i checked out the latest files |
| 11:27:26 | Lowfiler | and compiling doesnt works anymore |
| 11:27:35 | Lowfiler | is it the same to u? |
| 11:33:48 | adi|dads | hmm.. shouldn't be a prob... |
| 11:33:55 | adi|dads | the builds are all green |
| 11:35:12 | Lowfiler | maybe the win32.mak file isnt up to date or has an error |
| 11:36:05 | Bagder | the bitwap is an assembler file now |
| 11:36:45 | Bagder | I bet edx hasn't fixed the makefile to reflect that |
| 11:37:03 | Lowfiler | ya ok - i will wait until edx is online |
| 11:37:13 | Bagder | I still think win32.mak should be removed and the normal Makfile fixed to work with the gnu-sh |
| 11:37:33 | Bagder | then again, I am annoying ;-) |
| 11:37:40 | Lowfiler | yo that would be cool :) |
| 11:43:03 | Bagder | they are *very* similar so it isn't a very big job |
| 11:48:51 | Bagder | only 1.85% of open source projects are audio related :-) |
| 11:54:11 | Lowfiler | so u r one of the minority :) |
| 11:54:34 | Bagder | yeah, but I guess I'm so in more aspects too: http://www.infonomics.nl/FLOSS/report/ |
| 11:54:45 | | Quit Blaster_Master (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 11:54:56 | Bagder | (huge report on open source/free software) |
| 11:56:04 | Lowfiler | ya many pdf files to read :) |
| 11:56:36 | Bagder | yeps |
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| 12:00:58 | adi|dads | hehe i started reading that last night |
| 12:01:19 | adi|dads | then i got side tracked to the 'turned your beloved deceased family member into a diamond' |
| 12:09:07 | adi|dads | my favorite part is that vi beat out emacs as editor of choice ;) |
| 12:10:35 | notch | i find emacs cut and paste a real pain in the ass |
| 12:11:11 | notch | gimme normal cut and paste! |
| 12:11:18 | Bagder | you mean windows-style? |
| 12:11:24 | Bagder | there's some lisp package for that |
| 12:11:28 | Bagder | I know Linus uses that all the time |
| 12:11:52 | notch | I'll ask him when he turns up.. |
| 12:12:45 | notch | I keep on loosing my cy buffer by accidentaly highlighting something else :-( |
| 12:12:49 | notch | cut |
| 12:12:56 | adi|dads | hehehehe |
| 12:13:09 | adi|dads | thats why i bounce back and forth between my good buffer.. and a scracth buffer |
| 12:13:19 | adi|dads | 98.79% of os/ff ppl are male |
| 12:13:26 | adi|dads | surprise surprise surprise |
| 12:13:32 | notch | is that what that scratch is for! |
| 12:13:47 | adi|dads | 41.31% are single |
| 12:13:51 | * | adi|dads uses it for that |
| 12:13:57 | adi|dads | ctrl-k |
| 12:14:04 | adi|dads | ctrl-x ctrl-o |
| 12:14:14 | adi|dads | ctrl-u |
| 12:14:19 | * | adi|dads nods happily |
| 12:15:04 | notch | You know youre in trouble when you have to read the manual for a text editor :-) |
| 12:16:56 | adi|dads | hehehe |
| 12:17:03 | adi|dads | yeah.. tell that to a newbie on vi ;) |
| 12:17:08 | adi|dads | talk about lack of docs ;) |
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| 12:17:23 | adi|dads | i love vi.. but atleast emacs is all in the editor |
| 12:18:23 | | Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 12:18:27 | Zagor | hi all |
| 12:18:43 | adi|dads | howdy |
| 12:19:50 | * | adi|dads coughs |
| 12:19:54 | adi|dads | #include <stdio.h> |
| 12:19:54 | adi|dads | #define S(s)char x[]=#s;s |
| 12:19:54 | adi|dads | #define Q(x)x |
| 12:19:54 | adi|dads | #define A(x,y)y##x |
| 12:19:54 | adi|dads | #define B(x,y)A(y,x) |
| 12:19:55 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 12:19:55 | adi|dads | #define C(x,y)B(y,x) |
| 12:19:57 | adi|dads | #define Z(s,t,u)case s:if(*p!=32){t;}else{u;}break; |
| 12:19:59 | adi|dads | S(B( A( a ,m ),A(n ,i))() {B (A(h,c ),A(r ,a ))*p=x ;B(A( n, i),t)t |
| 12:20:01 | adi|dads | =0;B(A(n , i),t)s =0;B( f ,A(r, o )) (;*p;Q( p)++){C( B( A(c,t) ,h),B(A( |
| 12:20:03 | adi|dads | w, s),i))( s){ Z( 0,t+=8 *8-00 ,s ++)Z( 1,t+= 8 ;,s++ )Z ( 2, t++ ,putchar(t-73);t=s=0)}}}) |
| 12:20:06 | adi|dads | hehehehe |
| 12:20:08 | adi|dads | i love it |
| 12:20:26 | Zagor | occc rocks |
| 12:23:52 | dwihno | ZagorZagorZagorZagorZagorZagorZagorZagor |
| 12:24:00 | dwihno | Zagor rules |
| 12:24:08 | dwihno | Misa want DevCon! :D |
| 12:24:29 | Zagor | hehe |
| 12:29:56 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 12:30:44 | dwihno | am I the only one wanting it? |
| 12:43:14 | | Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) |
| 12:44:22 | adi|dads | wow pulling that a part is annoying :) |
| 12:44:33 | adi|dads | C( B( A(c,t), h), B( A(w, s), i) )(s) just means |
| 12:44:35 | adi|dads | switch(s) |
| 12:44:36 | adi|dads | heheheh |
| 12:44:51 | adi|dads | god how i love occ |
| 12:44:56 | adi|dads | occc rather |
| 12:45:00 | Hes | Ah, HD of laptop backed up... the 2.5" - 3.5" HD adapter was a good purchase. |
| 12:49:49 | | Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) |
| 12:56:09 | Zagor | Hes: my ac adapter outputs 9.25 & 12.35 V, according to my new multimeter |
| 12:57:09 | >>> | "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 12:57:10 | >>> | "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 12:57:30 | dwihno | new(tm) ? :) |
| 12:57:33 | dwihno | what's a multimeter good for? |
| 12:57:38 | dwihno | except measuring voltages? |
| 12:57:57 | Zagor | i will do mA tests before 1.3 release, and put that in the release notes |
| 12:58:34 | Zagor | anyone feeling bored? try booting the latest archos firmware and see how long it plays a 128kbit mp3 until the disk spins up again. |
| 12:58:42 | Zagor | then to the same thing on rockbox |
| 12:58:49 | dwihno | I can do that |
| 12:58:54 | Zagor | good |
| 12:59:09 | dwihno | Only for YOU ;D |
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| 13:05:47 | * | Bagder returns |
| 13:06:25 | Zagor | yo bro |
| 13:06:31 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 13:06:49 | Bagder | MeRWiN's wps stuff needs tweaking |
| 13:06:54 | Bagder | as you might've spotted |
| 13:07:49 | | Quit Snorlax ("I'll be back") |
| 13:08:17 | Zagor | yeah, I want it working on recorder for one thing... |
| 13:08:32 | Bagder | notice how often it loads the file... |
| 13:08:57 | Zagor | I'm a little dissappointed he couldn't wait for 1.3 with this |
| 13:09:03 | | Join Snorlax [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) |
| 13:09:08 | Zagor | it introduces a whole bucket of new bugs |
| 13:09:23 | Bagder | we could always #ifdef it out until 1.3 ships |
| 13:09:31 | Bagder | #ifdef WPS_CUSTOM |
| 13:09:52 | Zagor | yes, I think that's the best |
| 13:11:31 | Bagder | I think I have an idea of how to do the SLEEP |
| 13:11:41 | Bagder | I'll make a post about it soonish |
| 13:11:45 | Zagor | nice |
| 13:17:51 | Bagder | any thoughts about the hide-dot files patch? |
| 13:17:58 | Bagder | I've tried it and it works nicely |
| 13:18:05 | Zagor | very confusing names, imho |
| 13:18:37 | Bagder | you mean in the settings menu? |
| 13:18:51 | Zagor | settings.c, mainly |
| 13:19:20 | Bagder | I don't think I agree with that |
| 13:21:07 | Zagor | i'll look it up |
| 13:21:54 | Zagor | what a lovely fellow, this Brian Groth |
| 13:21:59 | adi|dads | its official.. i have lost all patience on the mailing list... |
| 13:22:07 | dwihno | Brian the goth |
| 13:22:48 | adi|dads | zagor, whats the prob in settings.c? |
| 13:23:29 | Zagor | what does "hidden_as_dotfile" mean? |
| 13:23:45 | Bagder | it means that hidden files appear as dot-files ;-) |
| 13:24:00 | dwihno | Zagor: does the latest daily build have the assembly bitswap thingy? |
| 13:24:02 | Zagor | are they renamed in the browser? |
| 13:24:07 | Zagor | dwihno: yes |
| 13:24:12 | Bagder | Zagor: yes |
| 13:24:37 | | Quit adi|dads () |
| 13:24:39 | Zagor | we'll get tons of complaints for that. what is the advantage of doing such a thing? |
| 13:25:04 | Bagder | no, I can't think of any... |
| 13:25:14 | Bagder | the hide dot-files I can agree more with |
| 13:25:22 | Zagor | yes, that's sensible |
| 13:25:35 | Bagder | I guess he wanted to visualize that the files are hidden |
| 13:25:36 | Zagor | and hide-hidden-files (which should be the same flag) |
| 13:25:58 | Bagder | yes hide-hidden would use the same |
| 13:26:06 | Zagor | but no perverting the filenames for no good reason |
| 13:26:19 | PsycoXul | he explains the reason why my .directory's don't show up too heh |
| 13:26:34 | Zagor | PsycoXul: yes, that's a very old bug :-) |
| 13:26:51 | PsycoXul | so why'd you never fix it? :p |
| 13:27:02 | | Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") |
| 13:27:23 | Zagor | PsycoXul: I've thought about it several times, but then always forgotten it when more urgent things came up |
| 13:27:38 | PsycoXul | btw have you guys heard about the crop formation found like 6 days ago |
| 13:27:58 | PsycoXul | that has what looks like a CD as part of it, with binary bits spelling out ascii text? |
| 13:28:42 | Zagor | lol |
| 13:28:52 | PsycoXul | it's bizzare :p |
| 13:28:59 | PsycoXul | i'm sitting here decoding it from a photograph |
| 13:29:04 | Zagor | url? |
| 13:29:17 | PsycoXul | http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=381&category=Environment |
| 13:30:16 | PsycoXul | there's more photos at pages that links to |
| 13:30:39 | dwihno | I need an advice from you guys. I'm considering using a display polish intended for cellular phones on the archos display to remove some scratches... Thoughts? |
| 13:30:41 | Zagor | crap, man. that took some patience to carve out! |
| 13:31:09 | Zagor | if the photo is even real |
| 13:31:39 | Zagor | dwihno: can't see why it shouldn't work |
| 13:31:40 | PsycoXul | http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2002/Crabwood/crabwood2002a.html |
| 13:33:02 | dwihno | Zagor: me neither, I think I'll give it a shot |
| 13:33:09 | dwihno | My tests are done in a minute |
| 13:33:40 | Zagor | "Save the web site from badwidth overload" |
| 13:33:45 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 13:33:58 | Zagor | pure text, written on a 500x375 jpg |
| 13:34:02 | dwihno | tests are done |
| 13:34:03 | PsycoXul | :p |
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| 13:34:11 | Zagor | I've got a few hints for those cluebies... |
| 13:34:12 | dwihno | enya - memory of trees 192 kbit/s (44.1kHz) |
| 13:34:12 | dwihno | 1:13 2:21 3:29 rbox (old bitswap) |
| 13:34:12 | dwihno | 1:11 2:21 3:29 rbox (new bitswap) |
| 13:34:12 | dwihno | 0:59 2:00 3:01 archos 1.27d |
| 13:34:17 | dwihno | that's when it loads |
| 13:34:40 | Zagor | so we're doing quite a lot better then. nice! |
| 13:34:48 | | Quit Synthe (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 13:35:04 | dwihno | yeah |
| 13:35:11 | dwihno | 10+ seconds is quite a lot :) |
| 13:35:20 | dwihno | Yay! Start rockin' with rockbox! |
| 13:36:59 | Bagder | sleeping thoughts posted |
| 13:42:01 | Zagor | PsycoXul: I like how the aliens used US-ASCII to convey their galatic message :-) |
| 13:43:17 | PsycoXul | yes |
| 13:43:53 | PsycoXul | it's quite bizzare to actualy mark the bits on the photo and see it there for yourself :p |
| 13:45:24 | Zagor | hehe |
| 13:46:12 | Bagder | at least those friendly aliens wrote in english |
| 13:46:27 | Zagor | isn't that nice? |
| 13:46:53 | Bagder | yeah, the make an effort to hide it with some binary stuff and then they spoil it by using english ;-) |
| 13:50:21 | Bagder | Zagor: do you know how hard it is to activate the recording on the MAS? |
| 13:50:32 | Zagor | no |
| 13:50:37 | Bagder | ok |
| 13:50:47 | Zagor | I don't think it's very difficult, though |
| 13:51:09 | Bagder | probably not |
| 13:55:57 | Bagder | Zagor: about Bill Napier's dot patch. I'm in favour of doing the part 1 but not part 2. |
| 13:56:02 | Zagor | me too |
| 14:00 |
| 14:01:34 | Bagder | so I let you respond to his mail ;-) |
| 14:01:45 | Zagor | ok |
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| 14:01:59 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 14:02:21 | Bagder | hi |
| 14:03:21 | Zagor | ¡hola! |
| 14:03:27 | * | Zagor likes the ¡ sign :-) |
| 14:03:32 | quelsaruk | hola zagor! |
| 14:03:36 | quelsaruk | jajajjajaja |
| 14:04:01 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 14:06:38 | quelsaruk | when you press "on key" on the recorder and you are on the wps, you jump ro the file explorer, but it is possible to go again to wps again? |
| 14:06:49 | quelsaruk | a lot of agains.. :) |
| 14:07:00 | Bagder | press on again |
| 14:07:29 | quelsaruk | umm it dind't work.. i'll try it again |
| 14:07:31 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 14:09:46 | Bagder | it WorksForMe |
| 14:13:59 | quelsaruk | well.. sometimes my recorder seems to ignore keypress, maybe that was the problem :) |
| 14:16:47 | Zagor | Bagder: can you handle bill's patch? |
| 14:17:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 14:17:45 | Bagder | sure |
| 14:19:39 | Bagder | do you deal with merwin's stuff then? |
| 14:19:53 | Zagor | yes, and hardeep's |
| 14:19:59 | Bagder | right |
| 14:21:28 | Bagder | is "hide dotfiles" a good enough name then? |
| 14:21:34 | Bagder | it hides hidden files too |
| 14:21:46 | Zagor | i think the flag should be reversed. "show hidden files" |
| 14:22:09 | Bagder | good idea |
| 14:22:21 | Zagor | people who know what dotfiles are, will also understand they can be considered "hidden" |
| 14:30:01 | Zagor | the recorder runs ~110 mA during playback |
| 14:30:28 | Bagder | in average? |
| 14:31:01 | Zagor | no, when the disk and backlight is off |
| 14:31:08 | Bagder | ok |
| 14:32:16 | Zagor | the backlight uses ~40mA |
| 14:35:48 | Snorlax | great, cuz my backlight doesn't work! I've got a 40mA spare |
| 14:36:01 | Zagor | haha |
| 14:36:19 | Bagder | 40mA during a few seconds is massive ;-) |
| 14:38:24 | Snorlax | yupp! you should see my battery life! =) |
| 14:38:40 | Snorlax | you'd be amased! |
| 14:39:32 | Bagder | :-) |
| 14:40:21 | | Part Bagder |
| 14:40:54 | | Part quelsaruk |
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| 14:41:33 | Bagder | oops, closed my ssh window ;-) |
| 14:41:48 | Bagder | lots of windows popped off |
| 14:42:27 | Zagor | haha |
| 14:43:26 | MeRWiN|Sleep | morning |
| 14:43:35 | Bagder | morning mr merwin |
| 14:44:08 | | Nick MeRWiN|Sleep is now known as MeRWiN (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) |
| 14:44:11 | MeRWiN | woke up late :) |
| 14:45:57 | Bagder | MeRWiN: we want to postpone your custom wps stuff to after 1.3 |
| 14:46:14 | Zagor | sven goes assembler crazy... |
| 14:46:29 | Bagder | yeps |
| 14:46:31 | MeRWiN | Bagder: seems reasonable. It needs work :) |
| 14:46:51 | Bagder | Zagor: afaik, 'register' is not such a gain with gcc |
| 14:47:02 | Zagor | i doubt it too |
| 14:47:51 | MeRWiN | Bagder: a proper implementation of it will take another week or so at least of tweaking, and I know we want 1.3 out before that. |
| 14:48:41 | Bagder | MeRWiN: could you make a nice #ifdef WPS_CUSTOM around those parts? it would allow you and other volounteers to continue patching on it but leave it outside the default builds |
| 14:50:15 | MeRWiN | Bagder: I really just have to #ifdef WPS_CUSTOM the menu option in the player, right? That will basically disable the entire thing. |
| 14:50:54 | | Join nsauzede [0] (gizz@lyon-2-a7-62-147-21-10.dial.proxad.net) |
| 14:51:33 | nsauzede | hi |
| 14:51:53 | MeRWiN | I'll have that added today. Gotta run to work now (and I mean run) |
| 14:51:56 | | Nick MeRWiN is now known as MeRWiN|Shower (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) |
| 14:53:57 | nsauzede | hey all, I've got patches for player, to handle USB logo while in Menu/WPS, anyone interested ? |
| 14:55:47 | Bagder | nsauzede: sure, please post! |
| 14:56:17 | nsauzede | bagder: ok, I send it, and please tell me if anything is wrong ;) |
| 14:57:30 | Zagor | MeRWiN|Shower: also #ifdef around the code in the wps, or it will be unnecessarily included in the build |
| 15:00 |
| 15:01:17 | MeRWiN|Shower | Zagor: Okey. Hey... I actually got my player to display "[DataMode]" instead of [USB Mode] last night... I think it was in the stock archos firmware. I plugged in the USB right when it was loading the rockbox firmware |
| 15:01:21 | nsauzede | bagder: just sent it. |
| 15:01:33 | MeRWiN|Shower | Of course, next time i tried to do it it blue screened windows :) |
| 15:01:51 | Zagor | haha |
| 15:02:58 | | Nick MeRWiN|Shower is now known as MeRWiN|Hotel (merwin@3Cust250.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) |
| 15:04:07 | nsauzede | see u later.. |
| 15:05:19 | MeRWiN|Hotel | see ya all on the flipside |
| 15:05:20 | MeRWiN|Hotel | :) |
| 15:05:27 | | Quit MeRWiN|Hotel () |
| 15:05:28 | Zagor | player-old uses ~140mA for some reason |
| 15:06:03 | Bagder | weird |
| 15:07:00 | Zagor | yes |
| 15:07:42 | Zagor | but it has a more efficient backlight |
| 15:08:19 | Snorlax | I've got got a 140 mA spare then.. |
| 15:09:06 | Zagor | Snorlax: yeah, when it |
| 15:09:09 | Zagor | is turned off :) |
| 15:09:29 | Snorlax | great.. |
| 15:10:34 | Snorlax | but I'm going in there and solder a lill' bit here an' there and fix the backlight(...) and also do the sound mod |
| 15:10:46 | Snorlax | this weekend |
| 15:10:56 | Zagor | when player uses ATA_SLEEP instead of ATA_STANDY it goes down to 110mA too |
| 15:11:06 | Zagor | Snorlax: good luck :-) |
| 15:11:34 | Bagder | Zagor: gosh, isn't that the opposite of what Linus found out, he must've been measuring on the recorder... ? |
| 15:12:04 | Snorlax | zagor:yeah thanks, I'll need it!! |
| 15:12:14 | * | Bagder can't really remember all turnes in the sleep vs standby work |
| 15:12:20 | Zagor | Bagder: yes. i'll test it on the recorder now |
| 15:12:37 | Snorlax | can u order from farnell in sweden not as a company? |
| 15:12:44 | Bagder | no idea |
| 15:12:59 | Bagder | so start a company and order ;-) |
| 15:13:28 | Snorlax | haha, guess I'll do that! |
| 15:13:42 | Bagder | having your own company is in fact pretty good |
| 15:14:24 | Snorlax | yeah, but what should it do? |
| 15:14:55 | Bagder | hehe... eeeh, you could deal with "computer services and electronics" ;-) |
| 15:15:16 | Bagder | you don't have to actually do anything with it |
| 15:15:23 | Snorlax | *wasn't serious* |
| 15:15:29 | * | Bagder is |
| 15:15:31 | | Quit nsauzede (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 15:15:31 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 15:16:01 | Snorlax | =) |
| 15:16:39 | Zagor | recorder with SLEEP goes all the way down to 70mA idle |
| 15:16:49 | Zagor | sleep is the right thing, for sure |
| 15:16:49 | * | Snorlax is still a litte child(16) and listens to Eminem so I guess he's not ready to get a company |
| 15:17:11 | Bagder | Zagor: that is so weird, I wonder how/what Linus did when he measured |
| 15:17:38 | Zagor | yes |
| 15:17:40 | * | Bagder pats Snorlax on his shoulder, you'll learn when you grow up ;-) |
| 15:18:09 | Bagder | now try with poweroff! |
| 15:19:03 | * | Snorlax doesn't care about Bagder cuz he's a rebelious teen and doesn't care about anything! |
| 15:19:04 | Zagor | Bagder: yup, will do that |
| 15:19:14 | Snorlax | =) |
| 15:19:29 | * | Bagder smiles and looks around, as he is so old and not very understanding |
| 15:20:01 | Bagder | the CPU alone is said to use 60, so there's only 10 left to "take" |
| 15:20:31 | Zagor | recorder w/ poweroff: 60mA |
| 15:20:38 | Zagor | i need to talk to Linus |
| 15:20:42 | Bagder | yeah |
| 15:20:50 | elinenbe | where is that guy? |
| 15:21:02 | * | Snorlax doesn't care about this discussion! =) |
| 15:21:10 | elinenbe | what does the Archos firmware consume? |
| 15:21:14 | Zagor | poweroff doesn't sound very nice, though. I'm not sure it's very nice to the drive. |
| 15:21:27 | Zagor | elinenbe: I don't know. I'll measure that soon |
| 15:21:29 | Bagder | yes, we've talked about that |
| 15:21:39 | Bagder | but I wonder how bad it can be |
| 15:21:47 | Bagder | I mean, the sleep will stop it |
| 15:21:56 | Bagder | there isn't such a big diff |
| 15:22:14 | Bagder | but I'm faaaar from being a HD expert... |
| 15:22:29 | Zagor | poweroff makes the drive to an emergency head park |
| 15:22:44 | Zagor | sounds like it's not supposed to be done frequently |
| 15:23:22 | Zagor | perhaps if we first did a sleep (which parks) and then powers off |
| 15:24:10 | Bagder | yes, that was my thinking too. so that it has spun down when powered off |
| 15:24:57 | Zagor | unfortunately, sleep takes 200-300 ms to execute |
| 15:25:40 | Bagder | and standby? |
| 15:26:34 | Zagor | same |
| 15:27:05 | Bagder | well it would need some kind of timer, "go standby" (sleep 500 ms) "poweroff" |
| 15:27:51 | Zagor | archos has idle comsumption 80 mA |
| 15:27:56 | Zagor | yes |
| 15:28:08 | Zagor | not much problem, since we already have a thread |
| 15:28:21 | Bagder | are you writing these measurements down? they can be useful to keep around |
| 15:28:56 | >>> | "seen" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 15:30:13 | Zagor | yes, I am |
| 15:30:39 | Zagor | interesting, just using ATA_SLEEP we should be getting better runtime than archos |
| 15:30:48 | Zagor | especially since we have a larger mp3 buffer too |
| 15:31:23 | Bagder | that's pretty cool indeed |
| 15:31:52 | Bagder | hm, we were like 10% better on the buffer times, right? |
| 15:32:11 | Zagor | <dwihno> enya - memory of trees 192 kbit/s (44.1kHz) |
| 15:32:12 | Zagor | <dwihno> 1:13 2:21 3:29 rbox (old bitswap) |
| 15:32:12 | Zagor | <dwihno> 1:11 2:21 3:29 rbox (new bitswap) |
| 15:32:12 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Zagor |
| 15:32:12 | Zagor | <dwihno> 0:59 2:00 3:01 archos 1.27d |
| 15:32:27 | Zagor | more than 10%. 12 seconds per minute is like 20% |
| 15:32:28 | Bagder | ah, thanks |
| 15:33:48 | Bagder | well, in average 9.33 seconds longer between each fill |
| 15:34:50 | Bagder | and with Archos doing it pretty exactly once per minute, we're roughly having a 15% largee buffer |
| 15:36:15 | Bagder | which makes our buffer roughly 0.23MB bigger, the 1.27d should have a buffer at about 1.53MB |
| 15:36:35 | Zagor | sounds reasonable |
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| 15:40:45 | nsauzede | anyone has a player/rockbox powered on out there ? |
| 15:40:58 | Zagor | yup |
| 15:41:05 | Zagor | I |
| 15:41:10 | Zagor | I'm getting a spam flood today :-( |
| 15:41:59 | nsauzede | zagor/anyone_w_player: if you press menu, then + two times, what happening ? |
| 15:42:42 | Zagor | nsauzede: the display is not cleared properly. nice catch. |
| 15:43:18 | nsauzede | I'got a patch, but don't know if it is correct.. |
| 15:43:50 | nsauzede | I suspect a nug in lcd_stop_scroll() |
| 15:43:52 | nsauzede | bug |
| 15:44:25 | nsauzede | the cleaning fails only when previous item was scrollable.. |
| 15:44:28 | Zagor | how lovely. abuse@hotmail.com responds in HTML... |
| 15:46:13 | nsauzede | another quirk, anybody : after USB disc, when in browse mode, root is rescanned... good, |
| 15:46:36 | nsauzede | but when in menu, after USB disc, root is _not_ rescanned.. |
| 15:47:01 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|out (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 15:47:01 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Zagor|out |
| 15:47:04 | nsauzede | so I presume that root rescan could be launched in USB thread, not in browse thread |
| 15:47:17 | nsauzede | any objection ? |
| 15:47:25 | Zagor|out | nsauzede: no, you're mixing application and firmware |
| 15:48:19 | Zagor|out | nothing from the firmware/ module must ever call code in the apps/ module. only the other way. |
| 15:48:22 | nsauzede | oops, I presume root rescan must be duplicated in menu.c, so.. can make a patch for that if you want.. |
| 15:48:44 | Zagor|out | it's better to simply return from the menu, and do the root scan in tree.c |
| 15:48:50 | Zagor|out | gotta go, see you later |
| 15:49:02 | nsauzede | ok |
| 15:49:39 | nsauzede | bye.. |
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| 16:01:04 | _nsauzede | bagder: interested by a patch for Menu/player ?? |
| 16:01:48 | Bagder | I'm always intrested in patches |
| 16:02:26 | _nsauzede | ok let's go.. |
| 16:02:31 | matp | I'm getting some distortion with Tuesday's cvs. Is this a known issue? |
| 16:02:40 | Bagder | no |
| 16:02:59 | Bagder | is that with the new bitswap? |
| 16:03:20 | matp | I think so, yes. |
| 16:04:26 | _nsauzede | bagder: when I (_nsauzede) will leave, could you suppress 'nsauzede' from the nick list ?? It seems that I didn't disc correctly last time I went.. |
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| 16:05:28 | Kick | (#rockbox nsauzede :Bagder) by Bagder!~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se |
| 16:05:42 | | Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 16:05:44 | _nsauzede | haaa, feel better now, thanks :) |
| 16:05:47 | | Nick MeRWiN is now known as MeRWiN|Work (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 16:05:48 | Bagder | :-) |
| 16:05:51 | matp | Hmm, it's quite noticeable on the same section of track each time |
| 16:07:38 | matp | I need to try it with another player, check it's not the mp3 that's corrupt. I'll let you know tommorow |
| 16:08:00 | Bagder | ok |
| 16:08:09 | _nsauzede | bye.. |
| 16:08:22 | | Quit _nsauzede () |
| 16:17:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 16:19:08 | notch | I have wirtten a bit of code for people with thier own 'homebuilt' remotes... |
| 16:19:58 | MeRWiN|Work | OK, lets see how this commit goes in terms of the auto-build :) |
| 16:20:49 | notch | it FF's within a track...lemme know if anyone is interested... |
| 16:23:57 | Bagder | notch: you should probably post it, there isn't that many "remoters" here |
| 16:25:35 | MeRWiN|Work | what happens when a cvs build gets to 1.100? does it change to 2.0 or something? |
| 16:26:28 | Bagder | no |
| 16:26:30 | Bagder | 1.100 |
| 16:26:32 | Bagder | 1.101 |
| 16:26:35 | Bagder | etc |
| 16:26:49 | Bagder | 1.999 ... 1.1000 |
| 16:27:17 | Bagder | there's only one way to have it go to 2.N and that is by manually making it |
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| 16:30:26 | MeRWiN|Work | ahh |
| 16:30:29 | MeRWiN|Work | ok |
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| 16:36:32 | edx | hi |
| 16:36:42 | Bagder | hi edx |
| 16:36:59 | edx | Bagder, how do you do the thing with the automatic mail notification? |
| 16:37:06 | Lowfiler | hey edx |
| 16:37:12 | Bagder | edx: on the cvs commits? |
| 16:37:14 | edx | did you modify loginfo? |
| 16:37:15 | edx | yea |
| 16:38:06 | Bagder | right |
| 16:38:24 | Bagder | ^firmware $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/syncmail -C4 -u %{sVv} rockbox-cvs@cool.haxx.se |
| 16:39:12 | Bagder | then there's the syncmail script that makes the diff and things |
| 16:39:50 | edx | ok.. |
| 16:40:03 | edx | thanks... |
| 16:40:23 | MeRWiN|Work | anyone want to dcc me a starbucks coffee? |
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| 16:40:45 | Bagder | edx: check details here => http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/rockbox/CVSROOT/ |
| 16:40:52 | edx | thx |
| 16:41:43 | Lowfiler | edx query plz |
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| 16:43:10 | MeRWiN|Work | So how is the power consumtion of our firmware to archos' firmware? |
| 16:43:59 | Bagder | slightly higher |
| 16:44:55 | Bagder | but we might go lower than the stock firmware by using ATA SLEEP instead of STANDBY |
| 16:45:30 | Bagder | also, we have a ~15% larger mp3 buffer than the Archos recorder 1.27d version |
| 16:46:03 | MeRWiN|Work | I thought standby used less than sleep? |
| 16:46:07 | MeRWiN|Work | or we determined that |
| 16:46:13 | Bagder | yes |
| 16:46:27 | Bagder | Linus measured that, but Zagor's measurements contradict those |
| 16:46:37 | Bagder | so we're not sure what to think ;-) |
| 16:46:50 | MeRWiN|Work | hehe |
| 16:47:22 | MeRWiN|Work | zagor has seniority? :) |
| 16:47:54 | Bagder | uh, I'll use my right to not comment that :-) |
| 16:47:58 | MeRWiN|Work | heh |
| 16:48:16 | Bagder | after all, he is my little brother... B) |
| 16:50:39 | edx | hmmm Bagder - can you take me out of the cvs mailing list |
| 16:51:05 | edx | the mail will be bouncing - took the mail server down (got kinda spammed, a few connects / sec0 |
| 16:51:58 | MeRWiN|Work | Bagder: but who started the project? |
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| 16:52:32 | MeRWiN|Work | Bagder: as a little brother myself, I can vouche for his ability to supercede the older brother |
| 16:52:33 | MeRWiN|Work | heh |
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| 17:18:14 | Bagder | edx: ok, I'll remove you from the list |
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| 17:19:18 | Bagder | edx: done |
| 17:19:18 | edx|notebook | Bagder: thanks. |
| 17:19:25 | edx|notebook | Bagder: do you know hh.com? |
| 17:19:31 | Bagder | no |
| 17:19:35 | edx|notebook | they were trying to connect to the mail server lol |
| 17:19:38 | webbie | hiya |
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| 17:20:34 | Bagder | edx|notebook: "Hecker & Harriman" |
| 17:21:15 | edx|notebook | "the hecker law group" |
| 17:21:23 | | Nick edx|notebook is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAAAAF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:22:45 | Bagder | Pac Bell Internet Services |
| 17:23:21 | edx | hmm what would the want from my mail server? |
| 17:23:35 | edx | i think it does not hold a detailed log.. :/ |
| 17:23:43 | Bagder | probably some kind of abuse, spam, DOS, whatever |
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| 17:24:12 | edx | strange... |
| 17:25:02 | Bagder | you should record logs and then mail them and ask |
| 17:25:10 | edx | there were some other IPs as well... I remember a virus connecting to my ftp from several govermental computers |
| 17:28:33 | Bagder | using a decent firewall, you can block those IPs |
| 17:30:12 | edx | yep... i have tried a firewall locally, once - but it created bluescreens (which is actually really a hard-core programming mistake in these days) |
| 17:30:58 | edx | the problem is that the firewall will tend to block ALL traffic at first so i cant remote-control the server any more |
| 17:31:18 | Bagder | you need linux, I can tell :-) |
| 17:31:43 | edx | hehe, maybe you are right |
| 17:32:03 | edx | but i know windows so much better these days - a change to linux would reset me to stone-age |
| 17:32:17 | Bagder | "Dude, this is seriously cool stuff. I just picked up a JBS10 off eBay and I didn't even test the Archos firmware - I just jumped on RockBox... very cool." |
| 17:32:20 | Bagder | better? |
| 17:32:21 | Bagder | blah |
| 17:32:24 | Bagder | for what? |
| 17:32:30 | Bagder | clicking on icons? |
| 17:32:52 | edx | i said i know it better.. not that it is better (well, actually the GUI is better) |
| 17:33:07 | Bagder | hehe |
| 17:33:14 | Bagder | well, you could learn... |
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| 17:33:18 | * | Bagder shuts up |
| 17:33:25 | * | edx laughs.. |
| 17:33:32 | Bagder | "Dude, this is seriously cool stuff. I just picked up a JBS10 off eBay and I didn't even test the Archos firmware - I just jumped on RockBox... very cool." |
| 17:33:42 | edx | hehe |
| 17:33:55 | edx | this guy really trusts in us |
| 17:34:24 | Bagder | he's probably insane ;-) |
| 17:36:00 | edx | :) |
| 17:36:30 | quelsaruk | edx: dou you use win2k? |
| 17:37:36 | edx | yes |
| 17:38:00 | quelsaruk | and can u use recorder simulator? |
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| 17:38:25 | edx | hmm i use the simulator with xp normaly, but it should work on 2k as well - waht's wrong? |
| 17:38:54 | quelsaruk | when i start it it uses 80% of my processor and collapses |
| 17:39:41 | quelsaruk | it's like a loop or something like that |
| 17:39:56 | edx | hum.. bad... |
| 17:40:40 | quelsaruk | i don't really mind, becuase i use my recorder instead, but today i ran out of batteries and i don't have my cherger here |
| 17:40:44 | quelsaruk | charger |
| 17:42:26 | quelsaruk | any idea? |
| 17:45:59 | edx | hmmmm |
| 17:46:24 | edx | what compilation did you take? |
| 17:48:05 | quelsaruk | i used the one in the website... but i'm thinking in compile it myself using the latest code (by the way... cvs autobuild for recorder simulator link at the web is broken) |
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| 17:51:22 | Bagder | "Go ahead and use the daily build if you |
| 17:51:22 | Bagder | want. You'll love the result. I'm now Rockbox all the way...no |
| 17:51:22 | Bagder | looking back. " |
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| 17:55:48 | quelsaruk | anyway edx.. i'll wait until my jukebox is charged... but i'll try to find the bug (if there's any) |
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| 17:59:03 | rocket23 | hi, anyone around? |
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| 18:00:40 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 18:01:05 | edx | the ones on the website dont wokr and the broken link is temproarily down.. yea |
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| 18:01:15 | rocket23 | hey, a quick question |
| 18:01:22 | rocket23 | not really related to rockbox though |
| 18:01:41 | rocket23 | i bought a jb6000 today, and the rom firmare is pretty old |
| 18:01:52 | rocket23 | firmware |
| 18:02:08 | rocket23 | is there much difference between the later and older models? |
| 18:02:55 | quelsaruk | recorder or player? |
| 18:03:02 | rocket23 | player |
| 18:03:27 | rocket23 | i just wanted something cheap, i was considering the ipod, but figured it wasn't really worth the money |
| 18:03:42 | quelsaruk | if i'm not in an error there is some difference, but not sure which one... i have a recorder :( |
| 18:05:04 | quelsaruk | edx: thx for confirming me there was something wrong, I was thinking it was me who had the problem :) |
| 18:06:16 | edx | quelsaruk: does a console window pop up before it crashes? |
| 18:07:16 | quelsaruk | edx: yes, apears and the emulator console |
| 18:07:21 | quelsaruk | showes the logo |
| 18:07:26 | quelsaruk | shows |
| 18:07:36 | quelsaruk | argg... i hate this keyboard |
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| 18:21:27 | | Join MeRWiN|Work [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 18:21:38 | MeRWiN|Work | Is there a way we could maybe reserve, say, 250-300k of buffer for the next track? or at least have that option? It seems that if we started playing the next track out of buffer and then fill up the buffer off of disk, it would be a smoother transition to the next track |
| 18:28:47 | edx | huh? |
| 18:28:56 | edx | does it show a DOS console or a win32 window? |
| 18:29:06 | edx | (sorry, I was absent) |
| 18:30:11 | quelsaruk | win32 |
| 18:30:17 | edx | hmmm |
| 18:30:23 | quelsaruk | (doesn't matter, i had work to do) |
| 18:30:26 | edx | can you mail me the exe, so i can test |
| 18:30:45 | quelsaruk | dcc better? |
| 18:30:52 | edx | no im behind a server... |
| 18:31:42 | quelsaruk | can you get files from a ftp server? i have som problems with my e-mail server |
| 18:32:19 | edx | ok |
| 18:32:21 | edx | no problem |
| 18:32:24 | edx | just give me the address |
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| 18:33:57 | * | edx has to go and eat something - i'll be back soon! |
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| 19:33:16 | edx | something seems to be kind of screwed up with the player simulator on windows :/ |
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| 20:32:28 | Bagder | hi |
| 20:33:30 | edx | hey bagder |
| 20:33:42 | edx | bagder: the simulator has a problem in player mode (win32 sim) |
| 20:33:56 | edx | somehow the dimensions of the display are screwed up in the latest version |
| 20:34:07 | Bagder | it's been enlarged |
| 20:34:36 | Bagder | the x11 version runs its window 138x54 pixels |
| 20:34:53 | edx | oh... hmmmmmmmm |
| 20:34:56 | edx | how can i fix that |
| 20:37:54 | Bagder | I don't know, that's your side of the table ;-) |
| 20:38:35 | edx | doh |
| 20:38:41 | edx | where do you set that resolution? |
| 20:38:53 | Bagder | x11/screenhack.c |
| 20:39:03 | Bagder | for the window |
| 20:39:08 | edx | hmm |
| 20:39:15 | Bagder | the LCD_WIDTH is #ifdef for player sim in lcd.h |
| 20:39:23 | edx | currently it's like the player window is too large and symbols get cut off |
| 20:39:38 | edx | yea.. when i modify this one it is still too high |
| 20:48:13 | | Join MeRWiN|Work [0] (~merwin@12.242.185.10) |
| 20:48:24 | MeRWiN|Work | did i ever mention i hate firewalls? |
| 20:51:02 | | Join hardeeps [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) |
| 20:51:13 | | Nick Zagor|out is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 20:51:13 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Zagor |
| 20:51:21 | Zagor | hi hardeeps. good job with the mpeg code! |
| 20:51:29 | hardeeps | thanks :) |
| 20:51:39 | Bagder | mighty fine indeed |
| 20:52:03 | hardeeps | now if i can only get rid of the last few pesky bugs and we can get 1.3 out the door. :) |
| 20:52:16 | Bagder | indeedo |
| 20:52:45 | | Nick hardeeps is now known as hardeep (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) |
| 20:52:50 | hardeep | there we go. :) |
| 20:54:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 20:54:22 | * | MeRWiN|Work slaps Bagder around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:54:24 | Bagder | hardeep: would you like to get CVS access to commit your wonders yourself? |
| 20:55:08 | * | Bagder noticed merwin has too many buttons in his IRC client ;-) |
| 20:55:32 | * | MeRWiN|Work wanted to find out the exact wording of the trout slap, and didn't want to slap himself |
| 20:55:49 | hardeep | Hmmmm.... perhaps for the trivial fixes. Let me sign up for a sourceforge account |
| 20:56:11 | * | Zagor goes to make food |
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| 21:03:24 | dwihno | eating is irrelevant |
| 21:05:44 | Bagder | someone with a player should have a go at NSauzede's patch |
| 21:08:49 | MeRWiN|Work | Bagder: what is NS's patch? |
| 21:09:09 | Bagder | on the mailing list: "USB con/disc for players" |
| 21:09:16 | MeRWiN|Work | ahhh |
| 21:09:33 | MeRWiN|Work | Bagder: mind forwarding that to me? jheiner@yahoo.com |
| 21:09:35 | MeRWiN|Work | I deleted it |
| 21:09:41 | Bagder | coming |
| 21:09:45 | MeRWiN|Work | thanks |
| 21:09:50 | MeRWiN|Work | I'll implement it tonight |
| 21:10:10 | Bagder | goodie |
| 21:10:25 | Zagor | all patches are saved in the mail archive, otherwise |
| 21:10:32 | Bagder | true |
| 21:10:36 | Bagder | I like the 'attachment' index |
| 21:12:56 | Bagder | I hate that sourceforge doesn't allow Reply-To: set in their mailing lists |
| 21:13:10 | Bagder | no |
| 21:13:13 | Bagder | I *hate* |
| 21:13:15 | Bagder | :-) |
| 21:17:25 | hardeep | Badger: my sourceforge id is "hardeeps" |
| 21:18:40 | Bagder | You're in! |
| 21:31:10 | MeRWiN|Work | hardeeps? :) |
| 21:32:44 | Bagder | emacs diff-mode rocks |
| 21:34:45 | MeRWiN|Work | Bagder: what does this patch do? just show the usb icon for connection and disconection? |
| 21:35:02 | Bagder | I don't know, I haven't checked it |
| 21:35:27 | MeRWiN|Work | heh, me neither... |
| 21:35:36 | Bagder | when I said "have a go" I meant check it out, see if it is fine, try it and then possibly commit it |
| 21:35:54 | MeRWiN|Work | ahh |
| 21:36:01 | MeRWiN|Work | i thought you already knew what it was :-) |
| 21:36:37 | Bagder | I knew it was usb related, but that's about it ;-) |
| 21:37:51 | MeRWiN|Work | well, i'll look at it tonight |
| 21:42:48 | MeRWiN|Work | Bagder: there's a menu problem with the player... if you are on the 2nd line line and it is scrolling something like "Sound Settings" and you press the down arrow to a line, say... "Info". It will say Infod Settings" |
| 21:43:16 | Bagder | ouch |
| 21:43:32 | MeRWiN|Work | only if it's after a scrolling line though i think |
| 21:43:50 | MeRWiN|Work | i had psycoxul verify it with his also |
| 21:47:53 | Bagder | it doesn't do that on the simulator |
| 21:48:02 | MeRWiN|Work | interesting |
| 21:48:22 | Bagder | hm, yes it does |
| 21:48:27 | Bagder | I was wrong |
| 21:48:33 | Bagder | I tried it in the dir browser |
| 21:48:37 | Bagder | there it works fine |
| 21:58:51 | MeRWiN|Work | you fixed it? |
| 21:58:57 | Bagder | no |
| 21:59:00 | MeRWiN|Work | ah |
| 21:59:11 | Bagder | it works fine in the dir browser but bugs in the menu |
| 21:59:14 | MeRWiN|Work | yeah |
| 22:00 |
| 22:07:53 | MeRWiN|Work | So that and opening a file uses wildcards when it shouldn't |
| 22:08:00 | MeRWiN|Work | partial string matching i mean |
| 22:11:11 | Bagder | right |
| 22:11:29 | Bagder | I wonder why it makes that |
| 22:11:48 | Bagder | I fix |
| 22:13:20 | Bagder | I fixed |
| 22:14:07 | MeRWiN|Work | you fixed which |
| 22:14:15 | Bagder | the partial file match |
| 22:14:27 | MeRWiN|Work | it still was doing it as of when I wrote my Custom WPS |
| 22:14:38 | Bagder | yes, I fixed it just now |
| 22:14:43 | MeRWiN|Work | oh, OK |
| 22:14:57 | Bagder | between those two lines up there ;-) |
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| 22:22:48 | MeRWiN|Work | heh |
| 22:29:42 | | Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:53:16 | Bagder | "If you have an Archos Jukebox, trust me on this: Rockbox is nowhere near competing with Archos for the firmware on this thing. All I want is someone to fix the fucking shuffle on this thing, but no. I installed Rockbox and deleted it almost immediately. It sucked that much. " |
| 22:53:28 | Hadaka | ouch |
| 22:53:29 | Bagder | from June |
| 22:53:34 | Hadaka | oh |
| 22:53:48 | Bagder | hard words, but it wasn't that good back then ;-) |
| 22:54:27 | Hadaka | well - even though rockbox is better, you'll hear hard words from people until you provide each and every feature the original firmware has |
| 22:54:34 | Bagder | true |
| 22:55:13 | Bagder | and probable even when we do, since then we don't do everything the same way |
| 22:55:39 | Hadaka | well then it's all debatable and not so bad |
| 22:56:01 | Hadaka | it's the same thing with svn - CVS features need to be offered, otherwise people will whine |
| 22:56:15 | | Join WS64 [0] (~WS64@pD9511AEC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:56:21 | Bagder | I just mean that it is hard to please all users, there will always be those who aren't happy |
| 22:56:24 | WS64 | Hello :) |
| 22:56:31 | Hadaka | yeah well ofcourse |
| 22:56:31 | Bagder | hello hello |
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| 23:01:40 | Bagder | Heiko's timings only show a 11% improvement on the player compared to dwihno's 15% on the recorder |
| 23:04:03 | Bagder | hardeep: will you commit your patch yourself? |
| 23:05:15 | >>> | "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 23:05:20 | >>> | "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 23:05:58 | | Join jsol [0] (~bds@204.156.147.105) |
| 23:06:31 | hardeep | Yes, unless someone has any problems with it... |
| 23:07:07 | jsol | Hey there −− quick question for y'all: i just updated from cvs and built a new .ajz file, and when I turned the power on, I got a blank screen on my recorder. I popped a battery, and now when I power up, i get a shifted, mirror-image screen. any ideas? |
| 23:07:56 | Zagor | jsol: which model? |
| 23:07:58 | Bagder | you mean it gets all wrong no matter what you boot into? |
| 23:08:05 | jsol | recorder 20 |
| 23:08:17 | jsol | actually, it's just a recorder |
| 23:08:31 | jsol | with a 20G drive, not the new rec20 |
| 23:10:03 | jsol | okay, wait −− i think i can replicate something |
| 23:10:53 | jsol | turn on the jukebox, and play a song. while the song is playing, hold down the off key until the unit powers down. Then turn it on again −− you'll either get a blank screen, or the mirror-image/shifted screen. |
| 23:11:42 | Zagor | what if you boot with archos firmware? |
| 23:12:13 | Bagder | does the "mirror-image/shifted screen" remain so all the time until you power off? |
| 23:13:51 | jsol | zagor −− i haven't tried booting with the archos firmware, but if i wait a few minutes and reboot, everything returns to normal |
| 23:13:57 | jsol | badger −− yes |
| 23:14:12 | MeRWiN|Work | para servicio in espanol, marque dos! |
| 23:14:51 | Bagder | weirdness indeed |
| 23:15:31 | Bagder | MeRWiN|Work: fix coming up in a minute, for the menu stuff |
| 23:15:46 | MeRWiN|Work | okey |
| 23:17:58 | Bagder | Zagor: you familiar with the menu.c code? |
| 23:18:05 | Zagor | yes |
| 23:18:49 | Bagder | ok, in menu_draw() in the beginning of the function, the screen is cleared and then the scroll is stopped |
| 23:19:28 | Bagder | then the menu is written |
| 23:19:55 | Bagder | why is the scroll stopped *after* the clean and why isn't just a scroll pause fine? |
| 23:20:14 | Bagder | the stop puts back the original string |
| 23:20:21 | Zagor | scroll pause wasn't written when menu.c was |
| 23:20:23 | Bagder | which messes things up on the player (at least) |
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| 23:20:30 | Bagder | aha |
| 23:20:35 | [-Pft-] | hey guys.. |
| 23:21:04 | Bagder | hey [-Pft-] |
| 23:21:45 | Zagor | stop_scroll should definitely be called before clear_screen. a bug, for sure. |
| 23:21:56 | Bagder | right |
| 23:21:59 | [-Pft-] | For starters.. I wanted to let all you guys know working on the project.. your firmware kicks arse! Thanks a million for all the hard work.. |
| 23:22:08 | WS64 | Hi Pft |
| 23:22:12 | Bagder | but also wasted cpu since it writes text o the screen |
| 23:22:37 | * | Bagder sucks up the encouraging words |
| 23:23:29 | Zagor | [-Pft-]: thanks. we try :-) |
| 23:23:47 | Bagder | yes, using pause is much better at least in the sim |
| 23:24:34 | Zagor | Bagder: but menu_draw is only called when scrolling, isn't it? and then scroll_pause makes little sense, since it's a new scroll string anyway? |
| 23:24:48 | [-Pft-] | Has anyone noticed (maybe I'm a little late on this one) with the recent CVS builds on the player (>4.50) the system crashes on files with around 30 characters.. |
| 23:25:11 | Bagder | Zagor: the scroll pause mainly prevents the scroll from appearing, that's what I want |
| 23:25:21 | Bagder | until the next specified string starts scrolling |
| 23:25:29 | Zagor | [-Pft-]: really? haven't heard that. can you give us a filename? |
| 23:25:41 | Zagor | Bagder: ok |
| 23:25:43 | [-Pft-] | example.. hold on one sec.. |
| 23:25:49 | [-Pft-] | let me fire up the unit.. |
| 23:26:33 | [-Pft-] | yep.. there it goes.. |
| 23:26:44 | [-Pft-] | I04:IllInst |
| 23:26:51 | [-Pft-] | at 73697270 |
| 23:26:59 | Bagder | ouch |
| 23:27:33 | Bagder | is that the bleeding edge cvs? |
| 23:27:34 | Zagor | ok, details. what's the filename? |
| 23:27:35 | [-Pft-] | now let me get you the name of the file.. via USB mode the file works fine.. |
| 23:28:47 | Bagder | hardeep: I think you should commit your patch, it'll make a lot of people try it out and when we can tweak it from there |
| 23:28:52 | [-Pft-] | The Tarantino Connection - 02 - Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou |
| 23:28:57 | * | dwihno passes the twix bars around |
| 23:29:18 | hardeep | Badger: just getting setup with sourceforge. will check-in shortly |
| 23:29:32 | * | Bagder fetches a twix |
| 23:29:34 | [-Pft-] | that's with today and yesterday's CVS |
| 23:29:43 | Bagder | ok |
| 23:30:12 | Zagor | [-Pft-]: is that "The Tarantino Connection - 02 - Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - Misirlou.mp3" ? |
| 23:30:19 | * | Bagder touched firmware/common/file.c just recently... :-) |
| 23:30:42 | Zagor | Bagder: hehe |
| 23:30:51 | [-Pft-] | another example.. Oceanlab Feat. Justine Suissa - Clear Blue Water (Ferry Corstein Remix).mp3 |
| 23:30:53 | Bagder | but I don't think this is my fault |
| 23:31:02 | Zagor | Bagder: no |
| 23:31:14 | Bagder | well, it might be my fault but not due to this fix ;-) |
| 23:31:26 | [-Pft-] | I happen to stumble upon it.. shortening the filename makes it play properly.. |
| 23:32:19 | Bagder | you notice any particular limit? |
| 23:32:28 | Zagor | does it crash when you play it, or just show it in the dir browser? |
| 23:32:28 | Bagder | I mean at which length this starts? |
| 23:33:00 | [-Pft-] | in the dir browser it's fine.. right when I go to play it.. CRASH!! |
| 23:33:41 | Bagder | what's the full path? |
| 23:34:30 | [-Pft-] | I would like to find out exactly at how many characters it needs to be before it crashes.. but I've done it too many times.. Don't wanna put to much wear and tear on the drive.. |
| 23:34:53 | [-Pft-] | For the oceanlab one.. it's \techno\<filename> |
| 23:34:59 | Bagder | hehe, I understand |
| 23:35:32 | WS64 | A techno crash-filter? Sounds cool *hehe* |
| 23:35:51 | [-Pft-] | the other it's \soundtrack\the tarantino connection\<filename> |
| 23:36:06 | [-Pft-] | err.. \soundtracks\ |
| 23:36:43 | [-Pft-] | WS64: I take it your not a big techno fan.. :) |
| 23:37:06 | dwihno | Techno is what makes the box rock! :D |
| 23:37:49 | [-Pft-] | yep. |
| 23:37:53 | Zagor | I can't repeat it :-( |
| 23:37:57 | jsol | a little more info: the blank screen on reboot happens every time i turn the player on and off, regardless of whether i'm playing a song. |
| 23:38:03 | WS64 | Pft, I'm too old for that (born in 64) :) |
| 23:38:59 | [-Pft-] | no one it too old for techno.. ;) I like all kinds of music.. I have quite a diverse collection.. |
| 23:39:09 | [-Pft-] | er.. is too old |
| 23:39:30 | [-Pft-] | Have a hard time typing ... and it's only 11:48pm!! |
| 23:39:43 | Zagor | :) |
| 23:40:08 | dwihno | [-Pft-]: ever heard about the group Caramell? :-) |
| 23:40:18 | WS64 | I have about 60.000 MP3s... And the number of techno files there is <10 (and prolly still too many!) (and same time here in Germany) |
| 23:40:36 | Bagder | I think the repeat-like-a-madman problem on bad mp3s is gonna be possible on target too |
| 23:40:53 | Zagor | Bagder: huh? what problem is that? |
| 23:40:57 | [-Pft-] | umm.. nope.. haven't heard of them dwihno.. |
| 23:41:19 | Bagder | Zagor: fill a dir with zero-byte mp3 files, press play on one of them... *wroooom* |
| 23:41:32 | Bagder | next-next-next-next |
| 23:41:34 | Bagder | forever |
| 23:41:36 | Zagor | Bagder: ah |
| 23:41:55 | [-Pft-] | Another thing I noticed.. in the parameters menu.. when skipping down thru the options.. sometimes a character from the line above is carried over to the next line.. |
| 23:42:14 | Bagder | Zagor: I need to prevent playlist_next() with too high 'steps' number |
| 23:42:27 | Bagder | compared to the playlisti size |
| 23:42:41 | Zagor | uhh, silly me I'm testing on recorder. doh! |
| 23:42:45 | Bagder | pft: right, I'm on to that one |
| 23:42:47 | * | Zagor whips out the old player |
| 23:42:51 | [-Pft-] | dwihno: what kind of music?? |
| 23:43:39 | dwihno | [-Pft-]: swedish happy dance-pop :) |
| 23:43:50 | dwihno | about the important stuff in life |
| 23:43:56 | [-Pft-] | Bagder: ok.. cool.. |
| 23:44:00 | dwihno | like cellular phones, doctors, and of course - caramelldansen |
| 23:44:10 | [-Pft-] | oh ok.. |
| 23:44:24 | WS64 | Talking of Swedish pop, what hapened to Atomic Swing? |
| 23:44:32 | dwihno | game over? |
| 23:44:34 | [-Pft-] | I don't know too many swedish bands.. |
| 23:44:43 | [-Pft-] | actually I can't think of one.. |
| 23:44:43 | Bagder | abba! ;-) |
| 23:44:51 | dwihno | ABBA! Ace of base! |
| 23:45:26 | [-Pft-] | oh really?? ABBA was swedish? and ace of base?? Guess I didn't follow too much of them to know.. |
| 23:45:42 | [-Pft-] | anybody here like Thievery Corporation? |
| 23:45:51 | dwihno | Where do the people from greenland get their meat for the burgers? |
| 23:45:57 | dwihno | From the eski-moo's :-D |
| 23:46:21 | * | [-Pft-] is laughing internally.. |
| 23:46:23 | Bagder | player-menu-scroll-bug-fix committed |
| 23:46:48 | dwihno | Bagder: Misa want DevCon! |
| 23:46:57 | [-Pft-] | sweet Bagder.. that was fast! |
| 23:46:57 | dwihno | DEVCON! DEVCON! DEVCON! *chant* |
| 23:47:09 | Bagder | pft: I was already on to it |
| 23:47:44 | Bagder | dwihno: :-) so setup a date and a place and we all bring our Archoses :*) |
| 23:48:02 | dwihno | DevCon at "Spybar" - Dr. Alban will install Rockbox on all of the visitors' archoses :) |
| 23:48:23 | Bagder | installfest! ;-) |
| 23:48:31 | dwihno | yeah, that would be cool :) |
| 23:48:38 | [-Pft-] | Where is everyone from?? |
| 23:48:48 | dwihno | Promotional sales of the Rockbox shirts |
| 23:49:02 | dwihno | and the official Rockbox soundtrack etc. |
| 23:49:04 | ironi | Bagder: I am moving somewhere near you...you dont know someone having a room/apartment/whatever somewhere near sthlm? |
| 23:49:08 | * | [-Pft-] likes the idea of installfest.. |
| 23:49:17 | Bagder | pft: from all over really, many swedes but lots of other europeans and americans |
| 23:49:34 | [-Pft-] | I'm in Paris.. |
| 23:49:45 | WS64 | Köln, Germany |
| 23:49:51 | dwihno | [-Pft-]: toujours les baguette - c'est parfait |
| 23:50:00 | Bagder | ironi: sorry, can't say I do |
| 23:50:15 | dwihno | WS64: Saufen im der Freie natur mit Rockbox und kartoffelknödels mit sauerkraut |
| 23:50:15 | [-Pft-] | dwihno: yep.. |
| 23:50:19 | ironi | Bagder: ok |
| 23:51:07 | * | [-Pft-] will be the provider of baguette's at the installfest |
| 23:51:13 | [-Pft-] | ;) |
| 23:51:17 | * | Bagder laughs |
| 23:51:29 | dwihno | :D |
| 23:51:38 | dwihno | [-Pft-]: With saucisson, s'il vous plait! :D |
| 23:51:53 | dwihno | but none of that french stinky cheese crap pls ;) |
| 23:51:56 | [-Pft-] | pas de probleme.. |
| 23:51:57 | WS64 | Thanx for the latest daily builds, resume was what I was missing, now the original firmware is gone till I need to record something (can I rename the firmware file from rockbox so I can reboot with the original firmware?) |
| 23:52:48 | [-Pft-] | We have a different type of cheese for almost every day of the year.. |
| 23:52:56 | Bagder | WS64: nope |
| 23:53:19 | Bagder | WS64: soon we hope to allow running new firmwares straight from within rockbox |
| 23:53:20 | WS64 | Too bad... Great job anywawy! |
| 23:53:50 | [-Pft-] | The resume function works great with the latest build.. |
| 23:56:01 | Zagor | hardeep: will you check in your latest patch, or should I do it? |
| 23:56:10 | Bagder | hehe |
| 23:56:15 | Bagder | I already asked him ;-) |
| 23:56:19 | Zagor | oh, ok :) |
| 23:56:20 | Bagder | he said he'll do it |
| 23:56:51 | WS64 | The only thing I don't like, if I just click on "OFF" too short the playback will stop, and if I want to turn off the jukebox and repeat clicking on "OFF" resume is gone... |
| 23:56:52 | Bagder | "Oh boy! Those Rockbox guys have got something to answer for." |
| 23:56:58 | Bagder | "My productivity has decreased 80% since I could play Tetris AND listen to music.. " |
| 23:57:21 | dwihno | Bagder and Hardeep have a secret phone line dedicated for Rockbox development :) |
| 23:57:42 | Bagder | dwihno: we all have one, all except you ;-) |
| 23:58:02 | MeRWiN|Work | AHHH!!!! I have to stay in New Jersey for another day |
| 23:58:03 | MeRWiN|Work | :( |
| 23:58:25 | WS64 | MeRWiN|Work, let's trade... |
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