| 00:00:16 | Zagor | yes. because hiding it is not removing it. |
| 00:00:21 | adi|home | right.. |
| 00:00:28 | adi|home | i didn't say i was looking to remove it :) |
| 00:00:43 | adi|home | i just dont need the options listed |
| 00:00:50 | Zagor | I don't feel right about just hiding things. It's got that Microsoft feel... |
| 00:00:54 | diddystar5 | why not a option in the general for to view or not to |
| 00:00:56 | adi|home | and assume im a dumb user that don't need all our features... |
| 00:01:16 | Jet8810 | adi has a point |
| 00:01:18 | adi|home | the default won't hide anything... |
| 00:01:27 | adi|home | its up to you to change the config if you want. |
| 00:01:41 | Jet8810 | but then again, adi, there arent very many dumb users using this :) |
| 00:01:48 | * | adi|home points out that he is playing devils advocate for ppl like his brother in law |
| 00:01:54 | adi|home | not yet |
| 00:01:57 | Zagor | i still don't see the point. it will mess up the code, for what use? i refuse to cater to idiots. |
| 00:02:06 | diddystar5 | plus how many people are dumb enough to not use those settings? |
| 00:02:24 | Jet8810 | and come on...if you are dumb, then why need to hide it |
| 00:02:25 | adi|home | not to sound stupid diddy.. but frankly.. fuck you |
| 00:02:29 | adi|home | im not 'dumb' |
| 00:02:33 | adi|home | im tone deaf |
| 00:02:41 | Jet8810 | adi...if you explained the point of hiding these settings, it might help |
| 00:02:42 | adi|home | so playing with bass and treble on my unit is pointless. |
| 00:02:45 | Jet8810 | no need for personal attacks |
| 00:02:48 | * | diddystar5 slaps adi|home around a bit with a TCL powered popup |
| 00:02:52 | langhaarrocker | When it comes down to hiding and showing things: In fact I'd like completely different configurations when recording then when playing back. -> Just hiding and showing stuff might not be enough. |
| 00:02:57 | Jet8810 | so just ignore it adi |
| 00:02:59 | Jet8810 | not a big deal |
| 00:03:41 | adi|home | Jet8810: i agree.. i just get annoyed when ppl jump in with comments about reasons that were already stated.. and are insulting in doing so.. |
| 00:03:45 | Bagder | there is an obvious bug in the loadable font code, it doesn't care for the single letter widths properly |
| 00:03:53 | * | Bagder is digging |
| 00:04:11 | Zagor | Bagder: yes, i've noticed :-) prop fonts look, ehrm, funny... |
| 00:04:30 | Bagder | we need the formats documented |
| 00:04:33 | lithermon | yaay 1.3 you have over taken the archos firmware v1.28 :)) |
| 00:04:36 | Bagder | this is somewhat stupid |
| 00:04:46 | diddystar5 | except recording..... |
| 00:04:55 | Jet8810 | btw, i kno bookmarking has been mentioned, but is there really any easy way to create temporary playlists or really isnt worth it? |
| 00:04:56 | Zagor | Bagder: agreed |
| 00:05:06 | Jet8810 | on nomad jukebox i had that, but os was COMPLETELY different |
| 00:05:21 | Bagder | Jet8810: once when we can write files, it'll be dead easy |
| 00:05:22 | Zagor | Jet8810: it's very easy, once I write the necessary fat code |
| 00:05:30 | Jet8810 | awesome |
| 00:05:40 | Jet8810 | just like hite a button combo to queue and song or album/folder? |
| 00:06:09 | Jet8810 | so now, is figuring out how to write to disk very hard? |
| 00:07:03 | Zagor | no, but it's still a good chunk of work |
| 00:07:18 | Jet8810 | right |
| 00:07:22 | Jet8810 | now THAT would be awesome |
| 00:07:38 | Jet8810 | before you kno wit, archos will be THE mp3 choice all because of you guys! |
| 00:07:53 | Zagor | :) |
| 00:07:59 | Jet8810 | :) |
| 00:08:06 | diddystar5 | >:) |
| 00:08:10 | pimlottc | hmm |
| 00:08:20 | pimlottc | are there any other open source firmwares for other mp3 players |
| 00:08:24 | diddystar5 | yes |
| 00:08:29 | Jet8810 | .....do tell |
| 00:08:42 | diddystar5 | the neo i know |
| 00:08:46 | diddystar5 | you can |
| 00:08:52 | diddystar5 | thats all i know |
| 00:09:12 | Jet8810 | I realized that the Rio RIOT is 20gb and same price as archos, and I was weighing which one to reccomend to a friend the other day actually |
| 00:09:36 | diddystar5 | what the riot i 20 gig? |
| 00:09:46 | Jet8810 | rio is more user friendly at this point, but not standard usb storage, no open source, ect, but really good software and cool hardware design and larger screen |
| 00:09:52 | Jet8810 | the rio riot |
| 00:11:05 | diddystar5 | we all hate yet love are archos :) |
| 00:11:16 | Jet8810 | hehe |
| 00:11:16 | Jet8810 | i know |
| 00:11:21 | Jet8810 | well miine cost me $70 |
| 00:11:29 | diddystar5 | what? |
| 00:11:29 | Jet8810 | so i am not complaining at all |
| 00:11:35 | Jet8810 | 20gb studio for $70 :) |
| 00:11:38 | diddystar5 | what model? |
| 00:11:44 | diddystar5 | damn |
| 00:11:47 | Jet8810 | bestbuy warrantee, paid $230 for nomad 6gb jukebox a year ago |
| 00:11:51 | diddystar5 | ebay? |
| 00:11:52 | Jet8810 | just paid $70 to upgrade |
| 00:12:05 | Jet8810 | so i really paid $300, but sure didnt feel like it :) |
| 00:12:20 | Jet8810 | rio riot btw http://www.sonicblue.com/audio/rio/rio_riot.asp |
| 00:12:31 | diddystar5 | i paid 220$ for my archos 5 gig and 40$ for 4 yearwarrenty at best buy >:) |
| 00:12:48 | Jet8810 | hehe |
| 00:12:59 | Jet8810 | so why dont you upgrade to 20 gb? |
| 00:13:19 | Jet8810 | whoa, rio riot has radio too hehe |
| 00:14:13 | diddystar5 | btw: what would someone sell a used 20 gig hd from a archos for? |
| 00:14:18 | diddystar5 | o cool! |
| 00:14:24 | Jet8810 | no no no |
| 00:14:27 | Jet8810 | bestbuy warrantee |
| 00:14:41 | Jet8810 | if somethin gis malfunctioned, you can pay dicvfference and upgrade to higher model |
| 00:14:46 | diddystar5 | no my warrenty cover everything :) |
| 00:14:52 | Jet8810 | so **assuming*** if breaks hehe |
| 00:14:59 | diddystar5 | and anything! |
| 00:15:06 | Jet8810 | so does mine |
| 00:15:10 | Jet8810 | you can upgrade and still be covered |
| 00:15:10 | Jet8810 | lol |
| 00:15:15 | diddystar5 | yep! |
| 00:15:25 | diddystar5 | thank god for best buy1 |
| 00:15:44 | Jet8810 | haha i know |
| 00:16:14 | diddystar5 | so how much would a 20 gig used sell for? |
| 00:16:33 | diddystar5 | just hd |
| 00:18:30 | Jet8810 | i dont know |
| 00:18:36 | Jet8810 | i remember there is a way to buy it from fujitsu though |
| 00:18:41 | Jet8810 | read a review of how to upgrade it |
| 00:18:41 | Jet8810 | but |
| 00:18:55 | Jet8810 | why dont you just ugprade the entire player through bestbuy (if its cheaper)? |
| 00:19:40 | diddystar5 | i might im looking at prices |
| 00:20:05 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 00:20:55 | diddystar5 | im looking at ebay i see some for under 40$ |
| 00:21:09 | Jet8810 | nice |
| 00:21:15 | Jet8810 | do you think they have capacities bigger then 20gb? |
| 00:21:39 | diddystar5 | there are a few |
| 00:21:54 | Jet8810 | same size? |
| 00:22:03 | Jet8810 | make sure height is right too |
| 00:22:04 | diddystar5 | yep |
| 00:22:08 | Jet8810 | awesome |
| 00:22:09 | Jet8810 | url? |
| 00:22:11 | diddystar5 | 2.5 8.5 |
| 00:22:41 | diddystar5 | go to ebay.com and search hard drive |
| 00:22:53 | Jet8810 | cool |
| 00:24:01 | diddystar5 | i've always been carefull around ebay though it's a strange place |
| 00:24:04 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 00:24:05 | Jet8810 | lol |
| 00:24:11 | Jet8810 | i am swamped with fiull sized ide ones :) |
| 00:24:39 | diddystar5 | lol |
| 00:24:45 | Zagor | bed time. see you tomorrow |
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| 00:25:52 | Jet8810 | 20gb is ifne with me |
| 00:25:58 | Jet8810 | i only have 11 gigs or so of mp3s anyhow |
| 00:26:21 | diddystar5 | i have 6 gigs |
| 00:26:43 | diddystar5 | plus alot of files i want to store on my unit |
| 00:30:23 | Jet8810 | right |
| 00:30:33 | Jet8810 | i think I am going to archive all my ISOs and such too |
| 00:31:37 | Jet8810 | so then I have a backup on another hard drive which I disconnect when not in use |
| 00:31:38 | Jet8810 | and archos |
| 00:31:44 | Jet8810 | there ya go, cant get very much safer then that :) |
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| 00:32:20 | diddystar5|onlin | mt isp failed |
| 00:32:31 | diddystar5|onlin | hate that |
| 00:33:33 | | Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 00:34:28 | diddystar5|onlin | now how do i get my offline name off? |
| 00:34:37 | * | diddystar5|onlin slaps diddystar5 around a bit with a TCL powered popup |
| 00:34:44 | Bagder | it dies in a while |
| 00:34:53 | diddystar5|onlin | ok |
| 00:36:07 | Jet8810 | or ya can ghost it |
| 00:36:16 | Jet8810 | if you have it registered, of course |
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| 00:39:15 | diddystar5|onlin | hey jet this is funny http://www.pillowpillow.com/ipodfirstaid |
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| 00:40:40 | diddystar5|onlin | hey jet http://www.pillowpillow.com/ipodfirstaid |
| 00:42:26 | Jet8810 | heh |
| 00:43:19 | diddystar5|onlin | poor ipod RIP |
| 00:43:26 | Jet8810 | haha |
| 00:43:31 | Jet8810 | whatcha think of ipod? |
| 00:43:35 | Jet8810 | i think its slick, but far too pricey |
| 00:44:28 | diddystar5|onlin | i think its awsome but way pricy |
| 00:45:05 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 00:45:08 | Jet8810 | 20gb is 500 |
| 00:45:47 | diddystar5|onlin | WHAT? 500$? |
| 00:47:35 | diddystar5|onlin | ooo yep for the ipod |
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| 00:49:05 | diddystar5|onlin | but it has a very good screen and very good internal software |
| 00:49:22 | diddystar5|onlin | and i tink its smaller than the archos |
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| 00:51:34 | bmidy | hi |
| 00:51:38 | bmidy | salut a tous |
| 00:52:05 | diddystar5|onlin | huh? |
| 00:52:06 | bmidy | j ai des pb sous debian 2.4.18 avec ohci : eci-load1 et eci-load2 passent a merveille |
| 00:52:11 | diddystar5|onlin | speek american! |
| 00:52:20 | bmidy | yes |
| 00:52:29 | bmidy | I get some difficulties under debain |
| 00:52:35 | bmidy | copul u help me |
| 00:52:40 | diddystar5|onlin | i try |
| 00:52:51 | bmidy | i m under debbian with kernel 2.4.18 |
| 00:53:03 | bmidy | the eci-load1 and eci-load2 pass succesfulz |
| 00:53:34 | bmidy | then I get an error : usb_control/bulk_msg failed ... |
| 00:53:34 | diddystar5|onlin | humm talk to badger |
| 00:53:39 | bmidy | modem hangup |
| 00:53:46 | bmidy | is he present nopw |
| 00:54:15 | Bagder | are you trying to do usb 1.1? |
| 00:54:28 | diddystar5|onlin | yes |
| 00:54:36 | diddystar5|onlin | i have to go for a bit |
| 00:54:37 | bmidy | euh I,ve the both usb1.1 onbaord |
| 00:54:41 | | Quit diddystar5|onlin ("bye!") |
| 00:54:44 | bmidy | and a usb 2.0 card |
| 00:54:56 | Bagder | so, which do you want to use? |
| 00:55:10 | Bagder | usb2 requires a kernel patch if you run 2.4.18 |
| 00:55:12 | bmidy | but the modem is connected to the usb1.1 onboard usb adaptor |
| 00:55:52 | bmidy | but as i said the eci-load1 and eci-load2 pass succesfully ! |
| 00:56:07 | Bagder | what are that? |
| 00:56:12 | bmidy | so what is the problem, do u get similar problem, |
| 00:56:15 | Bagder | no |
| 00:56:25 | Bagder | I've used both 1.1 and 2.0 with my toy |
| 00:56:36 | Bagder | on 2.4.17 and 2.418 |
| 00:56:55 | Bagder | do you use the UHCI usb driver? |
| 00:57:02 | Bagder | hm |
| 00:57:07 | Bagder | what archos do you have? |
| 00:57:09 | bmidy | but the error : "usb_control/bulk_msg failed ..." do u know anything abbout it |
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| 00:57:26 | bmidy | how do u know I've archos |
| 00:57:36 | bmidy | I get the archos 2.0 usb card |
| 00:57:37 | Bagder | why are you here otherwise? |
| 00:58:13 | bmidy | sorry I m confuse I come in the bad group, sorry |
| 00:58:15 | bmidy | bye |
| 00:58:20 | Bagder | ? |
| 00:58:34 | seb-away | au revoir |
| 00:59:41 | bmidy | oui aurevoir |
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| 01:35:22 | diddystar5 | mesa back |
| 01:40:05 | datazone-work | good 4 you |
| 01:41:44 | diddystar5 | haha |
| 01:44:18 | diddystar5 | don't be a butt |
| 01:44:42 | datazone-work | too late |
| 01:44:53 | * | diddystar5 slaps datazone-work around a bit with a TCL powered popup |
| 01:45:04 | datazone-work | now thats pretty lame |
| 01:45:10 | * | diddystar5 slaps datazone-work around a bit with a TCL powered popup |
| 01:45:26 | datazone-work | i think i will leave now |
| 01:45:43 | diddystar5 | good 4 you |
| 01:46:07 | | Quit datazone-work ("BOOM!") |
| 01:46:26 | diddystar5 | harhar yer still here |
| 01:46:49 | * | diddystar5 has quit ("bye") |
| 01:47:37 | * | diddystar5 wispers in the dark "i see deap people"! |
| 01:48:55 | * | diddystar5 slaps datazone around a bit with a TCL powered popup |
| 01:50:12 | diddystar5 | people lose things |
| 01:50:25 | diddystar5 | notes, keys, data |
| 01:50:36 | diddystar5 | guess which ine i lost today? |
| 01:50:42 | diddystar5 | *one |
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| 02:45:58 | diddystar5 | im going bye bye |
| 02:46:01 | | Quit diddystar5 ("bye!") |
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| 03:38:07 | merwin|shower | grr, more bad connections |
| 03:38:09 | | Nick merwin|shower is now known as merwin (merwin@1Cust54.tnt18.tpa2.da.uu.net) |
| 03:43:32 | | Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:50:26 | merwin | grr |
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| 03:59:27 | ecHs | hello? |
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| 04:00:22 | ecHs | anyone got some .bdf files already converted to .ajf ? |
| 04:02:34 | merwin | not me |
| 04:03:04 | ecHs | i just got no unix to compile |
| 04:03:13 | merwin | ahh |
| 04:03:32 | ecHs | why arent they putting the ajf files on the site? |
| 04:04:04 | merwin | that is a good question... I will pose it to them when they get in (in a few hours) |
| 04:04:23 | merwin | loadable fonts are part of version 1.3, right? |
| 04:04:29 | ecHs | k thanks.. i'll stop by later |
| 04:04:40 | ecHs | i hope so ;) |
| 04:04:54 | merwin | stop back in a few hours |
| 04:04:55 | merwin | :) |
| 04:05:21 | ecHs | ^_^ |
| 04:05:29 | ecHs | i drank too much last nite ;) |
| 04:05:44 | merwin | hehe... |
| 04:07:12 | kjsdnll | merwin: loadable fonts aren't in 1.3 |
| 04:08:12 | | Nick kjsdnll is now known as mecraw (~kdfjs@67.41.113.92) |
| 04:08:44 | merwin | mecraw: ahh, that might be why there aren't any on the site |
| 04:09:00 | merwin | although, there probably should be some fonts somewhere |
| 04:09:33 | | Join ddb [0] (~dbinder@ool-4350316a.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:10:41 | ddb | just tried 1.3 - does anyone know if it supports the customizable WPS |
| 04:10:58 | merwin | ddb: yes, if compiled with it enabled :) |
| 04:11:30 | ddb | can I have that compiled version, pretty please?? |
| 04:12:06 | merwin | ddb: hold on a couple minutes and i'll send you the test version i'm working on. It's stable and all. |
| 04:12:17 | ddb | cool, thanks |
| 04:12:34 | merwin | what kind of lcd do you have (player-old or player) |
| 04:12:38 | ddb | player-old |
| 04:12:44 | merwin | k, thought so :) |
| 04:13:15 | ddb | any reason why 1.3 doesn't come with it compiled already since it was working on the last daily build? |
| 04:13:28 | merwin | ddb: it isn't working on the daily builds |
| 04:13:36 | merwin | ddb: I sent you a modified version with it enabled |
| 04:14:17 | ddb | Oh, ok...I didn't seem to have any problems wit the version you sent me :) |
| 04:14:42 | merwin | by the way, the custom wps file has changed a bit... it's now two lines. The first line scrolls, the second line doesn't. A good second line would be: %pc/%pt (just displays the time) |
| 04:14:52 | merwin | in the version that i'm sending you at least |
| 04:15:24 | merwin | i'm compiling it for you now, what's the e-mail address again? |
| 04:15:28 | pimlottc | you planning on changing the scrolling behavior? |
| 04:15:36 | ddb | dbinder@optonline.net |
| 04:15:44 | merwin | pimlottc: yeah, that's the next thing on my list. A tag to define which line to scroll |
| 04:15:54 | pimlottc | cool. |
| 04:16:00 | merwin | pimlottc: that'll be working within the hour i think |
| 04:16:02 | pimlottc | can't wait |
| 04:16:34 | merwin | pimlottc: although I sorta rewrote the wps now... so i'll have to run it by zagor and them before i commit it |
| 04:16:53 | * | pimlottc nods |
| 04:16:59 | pimlottc | ok easy question tho |
| 04:17:20 | pimlottc | what do you have to do to add a file to the makefile |
| 04:17:46 | merwin | you don't add anything... you #include it inside of a different file :) |
| 04:17:57 | merwin | the file that you're calling the function from |
| 04:18:11 | pimlottc | eh |
| 04:18:12 | merwin | 30 unread messages in the last 4 hours |
| 04:18:23 | pimlottc | that's not really optimal tho |
| 04:18:43 | merwin | then i dunno :) |
| 04:20:43 | merwin | Ripley's believe it or not: A man dislocating his jaw to try to jam in 16 hotdogs at once |
| 04:20:45 | * | pimlottc is not well versed in makefiles |
| 04:21:21 | merwin | me neither |
| 04:21:29 | merwin | ddb: ok, sent it. remember, now it has 2 lines :) |
| 04:22:21 | pimlottc | i assume first line of config controls first line of display and same for 2nd |
| 04:22:24 | ddb | I just received, thanks, I'll let you know how it goes. |
| 04:22:41 | merwin | k |
| 04:22:43 | merwin | :) |
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| 04:23:27 | merwin | hehe: Complete your Membership The credit card to which |
| 04:23:27 | merwin | we sent the Member Number was added to your PayPal account on |
| 04:23:27 | merwin | 28 July 2002, and ends in 2702 |
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| 04:56:58 | nunya | 1.3!!!! Yeeha!! Too bad I can't get 1.2 or anything to work on my player tho!! HELP!! |
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| 05:00:52 | merwin | what's happening? |
| 05:02:22 | merwin | nunya: you there? :) |
| 05:04:29 | nunya | yup... i'm back... hadda go dry my eyes.. was cryin again... ;) |
| 05:04:54 | nunya | nothing.. zzip.... put archos.mod on player in root... still only get archos 4.53 firmmware display |
| 05:05:18 | merwin | which one are you downloading? player or player-old |
| 05:05:23 | nunya | player |
| 05:06:08 | merwin | just for curiosity, try player-old |
| 05:06:16 | nunya | ko... brb!!! |
| 05:06:50 | merwin | you do rename it to archos.mod, right? |
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| 05:11:47 | nunya | yupper |
| 05:12:00 | nunya | hang on.. still trying.. technical difficulties here... |
| 05:13:16 | merwin | :) |
| 05:18:31 | nunya | noper ... nothing |
| 05:20:45 | nunya | ok... im off ta bed... try this again 2morrow... later! |
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| 06:17:09 | merwin|shower | Anyone here want to test out custom wps on the recorder? |
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| 06:17:33 | mecraw | sure |
| 06:17:48 | merwin | mecraw: dcc or e-mail? |
| 06:18:24 | ecHs | can i also get a copy? |
| 06:18:29 | mecraw | try dcc |
| 06:18:35 | merwin | ok |
| 06:18:39 | merwin | it may not work though :) |
| 06:18:44 | merwin | the build may not work i mean |
| 06:19:00 | ecHs | didnt test it? |
| 06:19:09 | merwin | i don't have a recorder... it works fine on the player though |
| 06:19:33 | merwin | i'm on a 14.4 internet connection right now... slow |
| 06:19:48 | mecraw | i can tell :) |
| 06:20:00 | ecHs | no need for sleep ;) |
| 06:20:03 | ecHs | i can wait |
| 06:20:13 | merwin | ecHs: done :) |
| 06:20:22 | ecHs | in germany its already 6am :) |
| 06:21:08 | merwin | err, mecraw it's done |
| 06:21:21 | mecraw | what config file do i need to create? |
| 06:21:43 | ecHs | merwin.. im behiond some kind of fw.. try mail@xenhq.net |
| 06:21:54 | merwin | mecraw: wps.config in the root folder... i'll send you a copy of it |
| 06:22:03 | mecraw | k |
| 06:22:14 | ecHs | thx |
| 06:22:18 | pimlottc | any reason there is not a lcd_putc? |
| 06:22:56 | merwin | pimlottc: dunno |
| 06:24:10 | merwin | ecHs: lets see if it even works at all, then i'll send it to you :) |
| 06:24:16 | pimlottc | would be handy |
| 06:24:27 | merwin | mecraw: test out each of the wps settings please (if it works at all) |
| 06:24:35 | merwin | pimlottc: i was thinking the same |
| 06:24:49 | ecHs | merwin: i got used to betas |
| 06:24:59 | ecHs | ;) |
| 06:25:17 | merwin | ecHs: heh... this is pre-alpha :) |
| 06:25:34 | pimlottc | testing 2 line wps? |
| 06:25:39 | ecHs | sounds like some real 'fun' :) |
| 06:25:47 | merwin | pimlottc: excuse me? |
| 06:26:05 | merwin | ecHs: if it works, then it'll work perfectly i think... it's not that much different than the code for the player, which does work |
| 06:26:08 | pimlottc | are you testing out the 2 line wps with echs |
| 06:26:18 | merwin | pimlottc: custom wps, for recorder |
| 06:26:18 | pimlottc | it looks like he is testing something |
| 06:26:23 | pimlottc | ah cool |
| 06:26:32 | merwin | pimlottc: mecraw is seeing if it works, then i'll send it ot echs if it does |
| 06:26:50 | ecHs | merwin: can you send me that mail now? i'm getting nervous :) |
| 06:26:57 | merwin | heh... k. |
| 06:27:18 | merwin | same deal, copy the .config file to the root |
| 06:27:18 | ecHs | muchos gracias |
| 06:27:29 | merwin | might take a sec.. 14.4 and all |
| 06:27:43 | ecHs | can you send me your cfg? |
| 06:27:51 | merwin | ecHs: yup |
| 06:27:58 | merwin | ecHs: i created one for the recorder (very basic) |
| 06:28:01 | mecraw | merwin: the screen is blank |
| 06:28:20 | merwin | mecraw: on which ones? |
| 06:28:24 | merwin | mecraw: which wps settings |
| 06:28:30 | mecraw | custom wps |
| 06:28:34 | merwin | mecraw: how about the others? |
| 06:28:44 | mecraw | didn't check |
| 06:28:48 | ecHs | err.. i only got the old player |
| 06:28:56 | mecraw | one sec |
| 06:29:08 | merwin | ecHs: oh, heh... i'll send you the custom wps for player-old |
| 06:29:38 | merwin | ecHs: player code works perfectly |
| 06:29:43 | ecHs | the custom fonts wont work on player-old, right? |
| 06:29:49 | merwin | ecHs: true |
| 06:30:05 | ecHs | i gotta buy a new one soon :) |
| 06:30:36 | ecHs | the firmware for the recorder looks so damn great.. |
| 06:31:00 | merwin | ecHs: yup... i like programming for the player though, more challenging :) |
| 06:31:25 | merwin | ecHs: sent it to e-mail |
| 06:31:46 | ecHs | maybe you guys can code some 2 line pong or sth like that for the old player ;) |
| 06:31:57 | mecraw | merwin: id3 tags works, custom does nothing |
| 06:32:14 | pimlottc | are id3v2 tags working |
| 06:32:23 | merwin | mecraw: the other 3 work, but custom doesn't? ok |
| 06:32:28 | adi|home | pimlottc: they have always worked |
| 06:32:39 | merwin | adi|home: they were broken for a while i think |
| 06:32:43 | adi|home | no.. |
| 06:32:54 | adi|home | only the ones that write their data beyond the 300 byte limit |
| 06:33:05 | merwin | mecraw: you saved the wps.custom to the root of your recorder? |
| 06:33:09 | merwin | adi|home: oh |
| 06:33:46 | mecraw | merwin: yes |
| 06:34:10 | merwin | well, that means that it's the loading of the custom wps, not the displaying of it. yay! |
| 06:34:39 | merwin | i think i see the error of my ways, whoops... easy mistake! |
| 06:34:58 | merwin | i defined something for the recorder wrong |
| 06:35:53 | merwin | mecraw: accept the dcc :) |
| 06:35:55 | merwin | ok |
| 06:36:44 | * | merwin crosses fingers |
| 06:37:17 | ecHs | thx merwin.. seems like it works |
| 06:37:49 | merwin | ecHs: yup, should work perfectly |
| 06:38:15 | ecHs | i'll try with a different cfg |
| 06:39:09 | pimlottc | man I wish my linux kernel built this fast |
| 06:39:19 | merwin | hehe |
| 06:40:07 | ecHs | pimlottc: no money for some really cool fast cpu? ;) |
| 06:40:19 | mecraw | merwin: Well done!! |
| 06:40:39 | merwin | mecraw: all 6 lines display? |
| 06:40:51 | ecHs | jep thx merwin.. i'll get some sleep.. cyall |
| 06:40:58 | merwin | ttyl |
| 06:40:59 | mecraw | mecraw: only 5 |
| 06:41:10 | merwin | mecraw: are there 5 or 6 on the recorder? |
| 06:41:13 | mecraw | only 5 were defined in the wps.config you sent me |
| 06:41:33 | merwin | mecraw: oh, heh... try putting a 6th line in there... maybe the same thing as the 4th line or something |
| 06:41:36 | mecraw | 8 lines total, top is status bar, bottom is progress bar |
| 06:41:42 | pimlottc | ecHs - actually I could upgrade, i've been thinking about it... but I just don't have much of a reason to |
| 06:41:43 | | Nick ecHs is now known as ecHs|zZz (~exxe@p508B133D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:41:54 | pimlottc | ecHs - I think I will wait for the AMD hammer to come out :) |
| 06:41:58 | merwin | mecraw: and the time is displayed and stuff? wow... that was a wild guess getting all of tha tworking |
| 06:42:10 | merwin | pimlottc: amd hammer? |
| 06:42:22 | ecHs|zZz | pimlottc: i'm really happy with my xp+gf4 ;)) |
| 06:42:24 | pimlottc | merwin - the amd 64 bit cpu |
| 06:42:50 | merwin | pimlottc: ahh, i would like that. right now i've got the amd 1800 |
| 06:42:53 | pimlottc | ecHs - man high end graphics cards are so damn expensive... :P |
| 06:42:54 | merwin | athlon xp |
| 06:43:11 | merwin | i've only got a gf2 though |
| 06:43:12 | pimlottc | ecHs - call me old fashioned but i can't see spending $400 on a vid card |
| 06:43:21 | mecraw | merwin: all 6 lines work |
| 06:43:48 | merwin | mecraw: damn i'm good *grin* |
| 06:43:49 | pimlottc | merwin - same here and it still does quite well for me. |
| 06:43:54 | ecHs|zZz | pimlottc: go buy a gf4 ti4200 some extra fans and oc it to the max.. i cant see any differnce to a xp+gf4 ti4400 or even ti 4600 :) |
| 06:44:09 | merwin | pimlottc: i can do everything i need to on my gf2 |
| 06:44:16 | pimlottc | besides, it wouldn't help much to get a gf4... i'm cpubound anyway |
| 06:44:23 | ecHs|zZz | already played ut2003? :) |
| 06:44:27 | pimlottc | no |
| 06:44:35 | pimlottc | I just have an old cpu heh |
| 06:44:48 | ecHs|zZz | my friends duron800+gf2gts system died.. ^^ |
| 06:45:05 | pimlottc | it's a p3-450 |
| 06:45:24 | ecHs|zZz | i'm running on 1024 with max details 60-100fps.. thats some serious eye candy :D |
| 06:45:49 | pimlottc | besides |
| 06:45:59 | pimlottc | the ati 9700 looks pretty damn sweet right now |
| 06:46:26 | ecHs|zZz | but the ti4600 is still good enough to beat it.. |
| 06:46:40 | pimlottc | not in the benchmarks I saw |
| 06:46:46 | ecHs|zZz | i surely promise nvidia brings up some new cards on q4 release |
| 06:46:54 | pimlottc | oh I'm sure |
| 06:47:01 | pimlottc | just that 9700 is ruling at this moment |
| 06:47:16 | ecHs|zZz | but for what price? no way.. |
| 06:47:17 | pimlottc | it also has impressive fsaa scores |
| 06:47:30 | pimlottc | i've seen like 350 |
| 06:47:33 | ecHs|zZz | i'm happy with qc-fsaa |
| 06:48:22 | ecHs|zZz | ati sure does a good job.. but nvidia wont let the 9700 win ;) |
| 06:49:19 | | Join elinenbe|out [0] (trilluser@user-0cceh8k.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 06:49:27 | ecHs|zZz | i'd love to talk some more hours but its close to 7am and i still want some sleep.. |
| 06:50:13 | merwin | heh, g'nite echs |
| 06:50:29 | pimlottc | so if you get the firmware into an infinite loop will holding stop still power it down |
| 06:50:30 | ecHs|zZz | thx again merwin.. i'm sooooo happy :D |
| 06:50:38 | pimlottc | nite ecHs |
| 06:50:55 | ecHs|zZz | nite pimlottc |
| 06:51:04 | merwin | elinenbe|out: what time did you do that last commit of yours? |
| 06:51:31 | merwin | elinenbe|out: and what time zone are you? |
| 06:52:26 | elinenbe|out | I am eastern time zone... |
| 06:52:28 | elinenbe|out | just committed. |
| 06:52:33 | | Nick elinenbe|out is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cceh8k.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 06:52:41 | pimlottc | not too late yet |
| 06:52:42 | merwin | elinenbe: damn you :) |
| 06:52:50 | elinenbe | merwin: what? |
| 06:53:36 | merwin | elinenbe: I'm going to have to attempt to merge your patch with my changes... i basically rewrote the wps :-) |
| 06:53:50 | merwin | oh, it's not that much of a change |
| 06:53:52 | merwin | good |
| 06:54:53 | elinenbe | sorry about that... |
| 06:55:00 | elinenbe | what have you done with the WPS? |
| 06:55:19 | elinenbe | I am excited to see the changes... I just merged the seek acceleration code. |
| 06:55:35 | merwin | elinenbe: custom wps for both player and recorder :) |
| 06:55:51 | elinenbe | wow! I can't wait to check it out. |
| 06:55:59 | elinenbe | that should be cool as heck! |
| 06:56:07 | elinenbe | committ... committ... committ... |
| 06:56:27 | merwin | elinenbe: but to do this i had to rewrite how the wps handles updates... it now does a full refresh of the screen numerous times per second (doesn't seem to make a difference though) |
| 06:56:46 | elinenbe | that's fine :) |
| 06:56:59 | elinenbe | I can't wait for pixel by pixel scrolling... |
| 06:57:13 | elinenbe | I have a 3x4 font loaded onto my recorder :) |
| 06:57:28 | merwin | i've got a player :) |
| 06:57:33 | | Join Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 06:57:35 | elinenbe | I like the snow screensaver! |
| 06:57:38 | elinenbe | Zagor! |
| 06:57:43 | Zagor | hey! |
| 06:57:44 | elinenbe | early morning for you huh? |
| 06:57:53 | elinenbe | some nice stuff overnight. |
| 06:58:05 | elinenbe | the snow screensaver is fun |
| 06:58:08 | Zagor | yeah. my gf goes to work early, so I get up too |
| 06:58:14 | Zagor | haha |
| 06:58:15 | elinenbe | I have a 3x4 font loaded onto my recorder :) |
| 06:58:34 | elinenbe | it shows where things need to be changed for the loadable fonts. |
| 06:58:41 | merwin | Zagor: hey, got the custom wps working for both recorder and player now, perfectly fine |
| 06:59:02 | merwin | tested with the recorder kindly by mecraw |
| 06:59:28 | elinenbe | Zagor: the credits menu should work for smaller fonts. (fit more on the screen) |
| 06:59:54 | mecraw | merwin: how about scrolling? :D |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:11 | merwin | mecraw: hmm? |
| 07:00:34 | mecraw | scrolling in custom wps |
| 07:01:09 | merwin | mecraw: you just add a %s as the first two characters of the line in the wps.custom that you want to have scrolled. you can't scroll the line that has the time on it though |
| 07:01:24 | merwin | mecraw: remember, you can only have one %s |
| 07:01:25 | elinenbe | merwin: can you scroll multiple lines? |
| 07:01:25 | Zagor | elinenbe: yeah, I agree. we need to make everything work with different fonts |
| 07:01:29 | merwin | elinenbe: nope |
| 07:02:08 | elinenbe | another problem with loaded fonts.... the icons (folder, playlist, cursor) should also be part of the fonts !!!! |
| 07:02:19 | elinenbe | they are wrong when the font is quite small or quite large. |
| 07:02:51 | Zagor | yes. but we can't have them part of the font. then we'd have to make all fonts ourselves... |
| 07:03:11 | Zagor | we should probably have a couple of different icon sizes, though |
| 07:03:32 | elinenbe | well, then either multiple siez icons should be stored, or they should be synamic. |
| 07:03:39 | elinenbe | s/synamic/dynamic |
| 07:04:07 | Zagor | dynamic is difficult go make nice-looking. just think of the note. either ugly small, or ugly big |
| 07:04:17 | Zagor | i think three different sizes will be good enough |
| 07:04:28 | pimlottc | dynamic, heh |
| 07:04:42 | pimlottc | call me when you get ttf fonts |
| 07:04:45 | pimlottc | now that'd be impressive |
| 07:05:02 | merwin | nobody commit anything :) |
| 07:05:04 | merwin | heh |
| 07:05:09 | Zagor | haha. yeah, and butt-ugly. ever seen a ttf font compressed to 5x8? |
| 07:05:47 | pimlottc | well at 12pt and such |
| 07:05:48 | elinenbe | I have been playing around with a ttf converter. It looks nice on some fonts. |
| 07:06:01 | pimlottc | (of course you'd still have to get your hinting support working well) |
| 07:06:18 | Zagor | pimlottc: 12t is like two or three rows max on the recorder... |
| 07:06:39 | mecraw | merwin: scrolling isn't working for me |
| 07:06:40 | pimlottc | this is like the filesystem discussion |
| 07:06:50 | pimlottc | I didn't say it'd be _useful_... :) |
| 07:06:56 | merwin | mecraw: excuse me? |
| 07:07:01 | Zagor | haha |
| 07:07:02 | merwin | mecraw: i thought you said it was working :) |
| 07:07:13 | pimlottc | zagor - besides some of us only have 2 rows and we do just fine! |
| 07:07:14 | mecraw | merwin: i put "%sHello there, does this line scroll? Banana Hammock" in the top line... no scroll |
| 07:07:30 | elinenbe | sholdn't the fonts support all unicode... not just 256 ASCII characters or whatever... |
| 07:07:30 | mecraw | merwin: i didn't know scrolling was supposed to work :) |
| 07:07:38 | pimlottc | mecraw - you often thinking of banana hammocks? |
| 07:07:56 | merwin | mecraw: is that line over 64 characters? |
| 07:08:00 | Zagor | elinenbe: yes, it should. there is some support now, we'll improve it. |
| 07:08:17 | mecraw | merwin: nope - 53 |
| 07:08:20 | pimlottc | _all_ unicode? |
| 07:08:25 | merwin | mecraw: hmm.. hold on |
| 07:09:01 | Zagor | pimlottc: well, no. that would take up too much room. |
| 07:09:57 | elinenbe | I have been playing with different fonts today, and I think it would be nice to have a .fonts folder where you can choose the font you want to use. |
| 07:10:10 | pimlottc | zagor - so what are you shooting for, standard european character sets? |
| 07:10:38 | Zagor | pimlottc: no, we set a size limit and then people can choose themselves which subset of unicode they want in their font |
| 07:10:46 | merwin | mecraw: does scrolling work in any of the other modes? |
| 07:10:52 | mecraw | yep |
| 07:11:02 | merwin | it's just custom that's not scrolling? |
| 07:11:08 | Zagor | elinenbe: a .rockbox dir is pretty much decided already |
| 07:11:14 | merwin | mecraw: send me your wps.custom :) |
| 07:11:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:12:36 | elinenbe | that is where wps.custom will reside. |
| 07:13:30 | elinenbe | Zagor: you do know that creating a .xxxx dir in windows is impossible unless you do it under a DOS shell. talk about answering questions! |
| 07:13:36 | merwin | mecraw: copy and paste it into a /msg to me |
| 07:13:45 | elinenbe | you have do drop into DOS and do "mkdir .xxxx" |
| 07:13:52 | elinenbe | you can't do it under the GUI |
| 07:14:11 | pimlottc | you can make a batch file |
| 07:14:14 | Zagor | elinenbe: i know. but the other option would be to force hidden flag on, which would confuse even more people |
| 07:14:30 | mecraw | Excuse the following: |
| 07:14:32 | mecraw | %sHello there, does this line scroll? Banana Hammock |
| 07:14:32 | mecraw | %pc/%pt |
| 07:14:32 | mecraw | %it |
| 07:14:32 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK mecraw |
| 07:14:32 | mecraw | %in - %id |
| 07:14:32 | mecraw | %ia |
| 07:14:32 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 07:14:32 | mecraw | %fb kbit/s |
| 07:14:49 | elinenbe | Zagor: just checking :) |
| 07:15:05 | elinenbe | Zagor: make sure that is in bold on every page on the site. |
| 07:15:11 | pimlottc | hmm |
| 07:15:17 | Zagor | haha |
| 07:15:30 | merwin | mecraw: hmmm.... |
| 07:15:43 | merwin | mecraw: it should scroll... i'll get to that in a couple minutes :) |
| 07:15:45 | pimlottc | we should make a setting for development |
| 07:16:00 | pimlottc | so that when the usb cord is removed it automatically rolos |
| 07:16:06 | pimlottc | that'd be nice |
| 07:16:13 | Zagor | windows really fucks up people's usb connection |
| 07:16:23 | merwin | Zagor: how so:? |
| 07:16:35 | Zagor | pimlottc: why? it'll be like three button presses to load the new version |
| 07:17:04 | pimlottc | for developement |
| 07:17:06 | Zagor | merwin: *lots* of people have problems upgrading firmware, since windows doesn't flush the disk properly on eject |
| 07:18:33 | merwin | Zagor: you have to manually click on the icon in the tray and choose safely remove |
| 07:18:40 | merwin | Zagor: then it will work properly |
| 07:18:50 | pimlottc | the general settings is getting long |
| 07:18:52 | merwin | Zagor: might want to include that in some docs |
| 07:18:55 | mecraw | Zagor: any timeline on wps rework? i don't want to start on something and have it all change underneath me |
| 07:19:01 | Zagor | merwin: no, it doesn't. at least MANY people have problems with it. magic, windows-type, problems |
| 07:19:05 | pimlottc | should start breaking off into more submenus |
| 07:19:09 | Zagor | look in the yahoo forum. |
| 07:19:36 | Zagor | mecraw: "soon" :-) |
| 07:19:37 | merwin | mecraw: i'd wait until custom wps is implemented... it changes some of the aspects of the wps |
| 07:19:40 | PsycoXul | i have more problems with usb in linux than i do with windows on my archos... |
| 07:19:52 | merwin | PsycoXul: hehe |
| 07:19:59 | elinenbe | Zagor: the problem is poepl do not eject. |
| 07:20:10 | elinenbe | Zagor: they just pull out the recorder/player. |
| 07:20:18 | PsycoXul | its always locking up for no apparent reason and even locks magic sys-req sync and umount's |
| 07:20:19 | merwin | elinenbe: i agree |
| 07:20:40 | elinenbe | Zagor: if you right click on the icon in the tray and click "safely remove" you will NEVER have a problem... I never have. |
| 07:21:03 | elinenbe | Zagor: if you don't however... then stuff is half-written, firmware on disk does not laod, etc. |
| 07:21:11 | pimlottc | the eject is poorly down in win2k... if you have the archos and a usb cdwriter connected and want to eject the archos you end up ejecting them both |
| 07:21:15 | Zagor | elinenbe: i really don't think that's the problem. many many people have described how they do it, and always eject, and the file won't load |
| 07:21:18 | pimlottc | down = done |
| 07:21:41 | PsycoXul | my ext3 filesystems have had to recover journal several times when a hung umount of my jukebox somehow blocked umounting the rest of my filesystems and made remounting them ro hang even |
| 07:21:56 | Zagor | check out this, for instance: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/message/12248 |
| 07:22:29 | Zagor | PsycoXul: which kernel version are you using? |
| 07:22:47 | PsycoXul | 2.4.18 |
| 07:23:19 | Hes | RockBox 1.13? 8-) |
| 07:23:26 | Hes | Morning. |
| 07:24:10 | Zagor | heh, yeah. people aren't used to sensible version names. 1.1 was frequently called 1.01 too. |
| 07:24:17 | merwin | Zagor: that post says nothing about correctly pressing safely remove |
| 07:24:33 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 07:24:53 | | Part ecHs|zZz |
| 07:24:58 | PsycoXul | i've never seen "safely remove" on windows |
| 07:25:09 | PsycoXul | just Eject in the right click menu on the drive in explorer |
| 07:25:11 | merwin | Zagor: can you do a "cvs update settings.h" to update only one file? |
| 07:25:16 | Zagor | merwin: I know. it's a long thread, and earlier about four dozen people said "eject properly" and he said "I do". and this is not a once-time thing. |
| 07:25:22 | elinenbe | Zagor: I have never had problems on win2k or winxp on many, many, many machines. |
| 07:25:25 | Zagor | merwin: yes |
| 07:25:33 | merwin | Zagor: cool |
| 07:26:01 | Zagor | elinenbe: maybe you could write up a little installation instruction, for dummies? |
| 07:26:19 | Hes | Rockbox for dummies. Heh. |
| 07:26:24 | merwin | haha |
| 07:27:19 | Hes | Hey, i switched to #define USE_STANDBY |
| 07:27:36 | Hes | in ata.c - and i had 0 skips after that (driving home yesterday and to work this morning) |
| 07:27:37 | Zagor | skips gone? |
| 07:27:40 | elinenbe | Zagor: I will get around to this tomorrow. |
| 07:27:46 | Zagor | wow... what harddisk do you have? |
| 07:27:53 | Zagor | elinenbe: ok |
| 07:27:55 | Hes | On the other hand, I don't think it spins any more. |
| 07:28:01 | Hes | spins down any more, that is. |
| 07:28:07 | elinenbe | anyonw know any links to laar (greater then 20 pixels) bdf fonts? |
| 07:28:09 | Zagor | ?? really? |
| 07:28:11 | Hes | The toshiba 40G. |
| 07:28:14 | elinenbe | s/laar/large |
| 07:28:21 | Hes | I think Linus has the exactly same disk model |
| 07:28:26 | Zagor | I have it too |
| 07:28:30 | Hes | and he said he has similar problems with STANDBY |
| 07:28:47 | Hes | Should USE_STANDBY be working in the current cvs ata.c code? |
| 07:29:00 | Zagor | i'll look |
| 07:29:11 | merwin | elinenbe: with the accelerator, starting at 1second is not cool with me :) I had mine set to 5 seconds, what should i do? |
| 07:29:22 | Hes | #define CMD_STANDBY_IMMEDIATE 0xE0 |
| 07:29:22 | Hes | #define CMD_STANDBY 0xE2 |
| 07:29:28 | Hes | What would be the difference between those? |
| 07:29:47 | Hes | we issue CMD_STANDBY |
| 07:30:01 | Zagor | i have never seen "immediate" |
| 07:30:18 | Hes | Those are defined in ata.c... could a disk have a timer before actually spinning down if _IMMEDIATE is not used? |
| 07:30:26 | Zagor | no |
| 07:30:38 | Hes | Do we have an ATA spec sheet somewhere? 8-) |
| 07:30:47 | Zagor | yeah, on the spec sheet page |
| 07:31:03 | Zagor | ah, now I remember |
| 07:31:19 | Zagor | yes, IMMEDIATE is what we should use |
| 07:31:29 | Zagor | STANDBY sets the disks' own timer |
| 07:31:41 | Hes | ATA_COMMAND = CMD_STANDBY; |
| 07:31:49 | Hes | That would explain 8-) |
| 07:31:53 | Zagor | yes |
| 07:32:28 | Zagor | odd, how did we manage to break this? we used standby mode in 1.2... |
| 07:32:32 | Hes | I'll try with that and see if there's skipping |
| 07:32:35 | Zagor | do so |
| 07:32:36 | Hes | I was wondering the same |
| 07:32:55 | Hes | could browse around CVS and check the 1.2 version |
| 07:33:41 | Zagor | we could, if sourceforge hadn't broken the cvs browser... |
| 07:33:50 | Hes | uh. 8-) |
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| 07:35:23 | merwin | Zagor: it's working now |
| 07:35:38 | Zagor | umm, what is? |
| 07:35:46 | pimlottc | hey neat my first crash |
| 07:35:52 | Zagor | oh, ok. nice |
| 07:36:11 | pimlottc | (on my own code) |
| 07:37:16 | merwin | Zagor: is there any way to blatently overwrite an entire file? :) |
| 07:37:22 | merwin | when commiting? |
| 07:37:29 | Zagor | Hes: heck, I don't see how this could ever have worked... :-) |
| 07:37:38 | Zagor | merwin: how do you mean? |
| 07:38:39 | merwin | Zagor: it's telling me up to date failed, because i manually cut and pasted the last two version's changes into my code (since i've drastacally changed wps.c for the custom wps). I need to just overwrite the file in cvs. The code that was changed in the last 2 versions works fine in mine |
| 07:38:48 | merwin | up to date check failed |
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| 07:39:25 | Zagor | remove the file and run update again |
| 07:41:05 | Hes | Zagor: interesting. 8-) |
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| 07:41:59 | merwin | heya hardeep |
| 07:43:01 | hardeep | howdy |
| 07:43:03 | Hes | Ha! Custom WPS for recorders! |
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| 07:43:21 | * | Hes dances around his room at the office |
| 07:43:25 | merwin | Hes: yeah, scrolling doesn't work yet for some reason in the recorder when using the custom wps file |
| 07:43:32 | merwin | hes: don't use it quite yet, i need to update the docs :) |
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| 07:43:39 | merwin | hey bag |
| 07:43:40 | Bagder | morning |
| 07:43:49 | Hes | Morning |
| 07:44:10 | merwin | i've got 15 minutes until i see if i broke the simulators... darn :) |
| 07:46:26 | mecraw | merwin: you need to add 1 space to the other options for wps in the menu |
| 07:47:25 | merwin | mecraw: okey |
| 07:48:23 | merwin | mecraw: i wonder what's wrong with the scrolling :P |
| 07:51:21 | merwin | mecraw: try a bit shorter line that will scroll... or maybe try scrolling the 2nd line instead |
| 07:51:25 | merwin | mecraw: to see what happens |
| 07:51:33 | mecraw | ok |
| 07:52:19 | merwin | mecraw: for all intents and purposes, if it scrolls the other types of wps views, it should scroll the custom wps :) |
| 07:56:50 | merwin | mecraw: i can't find a single thing wrong :) |
| 07:57:34 | mecraw | merwin: doesn't work on another line either |
| 07:58:19 | merwin | Hes: ok, docs are updated :-) |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:11 | merwin | Zagor: I made a pretty drastic change to the wps for my custom_wps... the whole wps now refreshes numerous times per second (it's the only way to support custom wps). Doesn't seem to affect the display at all though. |
| 08:00:39 | merwin | Zagor: it's due to having the time be part of the configurable wps.... we don't know where it will be located on the screen, so we can't just update only the time |
| 08:00:50 | Zagor | merwin: ewww |
| 08:01:04 | Bagder | but the time doesn't change "numerous times per second" ;-) |
| 08:01:23 | Zagor | merwin: at least cache it locally and only update if the buffer differs |
| 08:01:27 | merwin | Bagder: but the display of the time will look choppy if it doesn't display at least 4 times per second |
| 08:01:47 | merwin | Zagor: hmm? |
| 08:02:15 | mecraw | merwin: why can't you only update the line(s) with the elapsed time in it? |
| 08:02:16 | Bagder | I'd have some info on which line there is time info and only update those, and only if the time actually changed |
| 08:02:42 | merwin | Bagder: I could do that |
| 08:02:52 | merwin | Bagder: check for the tags for time in the string |
| 08:02:58 | merwin | and only update that one. |
| 08:03:01 | Bagder | lcd_update_rect() could possibly be used then too |
| 08:03:11 | Bagder | for recorders |
| 08:03:29 | Zagor | that would be a lot better |
| 08:03:47 | merwin | Zagor: why bother when it's not choppy? |
| 08:03:51 | Zagor | and even then, sprintf to a buffer, compare it to the old and only call lcd_update if the buffer differs |
| 08:04:08 | Zagor | merwin: because it uses cpu better spent elsewhere |
| 08:04:38 | merwin | Zagor: on the player it doesn't really matter... the old time display was updating almost the entire line anyways... and since one line is scrolling, it's still only updating one line |
| 08:04:48 | merwin | Zagor: it's only the recorder that would lose cpu possibly |
| 08:05:12 | Bagder | not possibly |
| 08:05:21 | Bagder | screen updates are pretty costly on the recorder |
| 08:05:35 | Zagor | "only" recorder? |
| 08:05:36 | merwin | Bagder: is there any way to check cpu usage with and without? |
| 08:05:43 | Bagder | merwin: no |
| 08:05:56 | merwin | Zagor: hmm? |
| 08:06:17 | merwin | mecraw: how's the testing going? |
| 08:06:21 | Zagor | recorders are slower, and take longer updating. I will not have code wasting cpu. |
| 08:06:30 | merwin | Zagor: *grin* k |
| 08:06:52 | mecraw | merwin: ? it doesn't work |
| 08:07:45 | merwin | mecraw: try this... make one with all 6 lines long enough so that they will scroll... and have the %s on the first line. let's see if ANY of them are scrolling |
| 08:08:08 | merwin | this is insane, that part of it is the same as with the player, and the player works fine |
| 08:08:46 | merwin | Zagor: is there an instr() function? |
| 08:08:58 | Zagor | no. what would it do? |
| 08:09:24 | merwin | Zagor: find if a string exists within a string |
| 08:09:33 | merwin | needle in a haystack as php puts it |
| 08:09:42 | Zagor | it's called strstr() in C. but we still don't have it. :-) |
| 08:10:10 | Hes | Would be pretty easy to do though. |
| 08:10:10 | merwin | Zagor: to have a cache of the last wps, it would take another 384 bytes, that ok? |
| 08:10:37 | merwin | Zagor: 64 bytes per line, 6 lines |
| 08:10:38 | * | Hes would like regular expressions for filename => WPS parsing 8-) |
| 08:10:39 | Bagder | if time is the only thing that changes, the changed-time is all that needs to be checked |
| 08:11:03 | merwin | Hes: bah.. that'll come :) |
| 08:11:35 | Zagor | mecraw: use bagder's solution |
| 08:12:21 | mecraw | Zagor: you talkin' to me? |
| 08:12:24 | merwin | so it'll only be updating the line that has the time on it, and only once a second |
| 08:12:59 | Zagor | mecraw: sorry, I meant merwin |
| 08:13:01 | Bagder | it'll need to do it faster than once a second |
| 08:13:16 | mecraw | Zagor: we get confused all the time :D |
| 08:13:19 | Zagor | Bagder: the check, yes. but the actual update will only be once/sec |
| 08:13:25 | merwin | Bagder: it'll only need to update once a second though |
| 08:13:28 | merwin | on the screen that is |
| 08:13:32 | Bagder | Zagor: ah, yes, right |
| 08:13:35 | mecraw | merwin: it tries to scroll but then stops |
| 08:13:43 | merwin | mecraw: excuse me? |
| 08:14:09 | mecraw | merwin: it scrolls one character and then goes back to normal |
| 08:14:18 | merwin | which line scrolls? the proper one? |
| 08:14:21 | mecraw | yes |
| 08:14:33 | merwin | that means it's doing an lcd_stop_scroll somewhere that it shouldn't be |
| 08:15:21 | mecraw | line 606 |
| 08:15:47 | merwin | you think? |
| 08:16:04 | mecraw | that should go away once you only update things that change |
| 08:16:55 | merwin | mecraw: you're tlaking about this, right? |
| 08:16:55 | merwin | if(do_scroll) |
| 08:16:55 | merwin | { |
| 08:16:55 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK merwin |
| 08:16:55 | merwin | lcd_stop_scroll(); |
| 08:16:55 | merwin | lcd_puts_scroll(x_val, y_val, buffer); |
| 08:16:55 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 08:16:55 | merwin | } |
| 08:17:26 | mecraw | yes |
| 08:17:32 | merwin | that only gets done if do_scroll is true, which is only done when draw_screen is done, which is not done very often |
| 08:17:41 | mecraw | that gets run multiple times a second, right? |
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| 08:20:14 | * | merwin is stumped |
| 08:21:16 | Zagor | i'll be away most of today (have to work! *ack* *spit* ;-> ) you'all behave, now! ;) |
| 08:21:23 | merwin | heh |
| 08:21:26 | merwin | is this proper code? |
| 08:21:26 | merwin | if(scroll_line != l) |
| 08:21:26 | merwin | display_custom_wps(0, l, false, custom_wps[l]); |
| 08:21:26 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 08:21:26 | merwin | else |
| 08:21:26 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 08:21:26 | merwin | if(refresh_scroll) |
| 08:21:26 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 08:21:26 | merwin | display_custom_wps(0, l, true, custom_wps[l]); |
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| 08:23:21 | merwin | mecraw: and it *is* scrolling the other wps displays properly? |
| 08:23:29 | mecraw | yes |
| 08:23:44 | mecraw | i'm heading to bed... good luck |
| 08:23:50 | merwin | nite |
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| 08:29:41 | bobTHC | good morning! |
| 08:30:41 | hardeep | heya bobTHC |
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| 08:43:39 | bobTHC | re (fucking windows reboot) |
| 08:51:31 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 08:51:31 | * | Bagder likes the way several archos forums have turned into rockbox-support forums ;-) |
| 08:55:33 | Bagder | Hes: I think you could add a separate Q for the deep discharge |
| 08:55:40 | Bagder | to make it more obvious |
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| 09:10:19 | Hes | Bagder: Yeah, maybe. |
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| 09:23:10 | * | MeRWiN is finally downloading mingw... |
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| 10:06:24 | mbr | who #rockbox |
| 10:06:31 | mbr | Ups :) |
| 10:07:53 | mbr | Morning all! |
| 10:13:42 | Bagder | morning mbr |
| 10:15:54 | mbr | Hi Bagder! |
| 10:16:10 | mbr | scrollbar question. Where should it go? |
| 10:16:36 | mbr | To te left side of the lcd? |
| 10:16:43 | Bagder | yeps |
| 10:16:57 | mbr | OK |
| 10:17:02 | Bagder | and it needs to remain possible to switch on/off |
| 10:19:13 | mbr | OK. I'll add it to tree |
| 10:19:37 | mbr | btw. are cvs brances allowed? |
| 10:20:51 | Bagder | we haven't really discussed that |
| 10:21:00 | Bagder | you feel a need for one? |
| 10:21:23 | Bagder | so far we've mainly stayed with using #ifdef WHATEVER around "experiemental" code |
| 10:21:36 | mbr | Not really. I was not sure how to supply a "test" version with scrollbar. |
| 10:31:42 | MeRWiN | Bagder: how do i make the sim with mingw? |
| 10:32:54 | * | MeRWiN slaps Bagder around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:34:12 | Bagder | you tell me |
| 10:34:44 | MeRWiN | ? |
| 10:34:52 | Bagder | no one has cared anough to do anything about it |
| 10:34:59 | Bagder | afaik |
| 10:35:09 | MeRWiN | how do we build the win32 sim then? |
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| 10:35:32 | Bagder | "we" fix the makefiles to work |
| 10:35:48 | Bagder | "we" in this end don't use windows |
| 10:36:23 | Bagder | sorry, but that's the hard reality |
| 10:36:32 | Bagder | windows users don't do much of that stuff |
| 10:36:55 | MeRWiN | makes it harder to debug recorder code without building the sim :) |
| 10:37:21 | Bagder | well, I always build the sim ;-) |
| 10:37:50 | Bagder | trust me, it didn't work when I started either *g* |
| 10:38:03 | MeRWiN | what we need is a good emulator :) |
| 10:38:19 | Bagder | it wouldn't solve your problem |
| 10:38:27 | Bagder | you'd still not be able to build it ;-) |
| 10:38:39 | MeRWiN | yeah it would, someone builds the emulator and then i just plop the mod file in |
| 10:38:47 | MeRWiN | heh |
| 10:39:10 | Bagder | downloading binaries? ough, how cavemanish ;-) |
| 10:39:31 | MeRWiN | hah |
| 10:39:40 | Bagder | now, seriously |
| 10:39:48 | Bagder | what is the problem with mingw and the sim? |
| 10:40:14 | MeRWiN | i installed mingw 2.02 (not the newest 2.03... it doubles the download size) |
| 10:40:18 | MeRWiN | add it to my path |
| 10:40:54 | MeRWiN | create the makefile |
| 10:40:56 | MeRWiN | and get this: |
| 10:40:57 | MeRWiN | Updating Dependencies for dir-win32.c |
| 10:40:57 | MeRWiN | i386-mingw32msvc-gcc: not found |
| 10:41:08 | MeRWiN | wait |
| 10:41:46 | Bagder | your compiler is probably not named like that |
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| 10:42:58 | MeRWiN | hmm |
| 10:43:06 | Bagder | *ugha* |
| 10:43:14 | Bagder | what an amazing bug I got just now |
| 10:43:16 | MeRWiN | i wish i could get it to compile with just plain gcc |
| 10:43:21 | MeRWiN | cygwin is so nice |
| 10:43:50 | Bagder | MeRWiN: so what prevents you from making that work? |
| 10:44:06 | Bagder | I thought people already built the sim with cygwin |
| 10:45:11 | MeRWiN | /button.o |
| 10:45:11 | MeRWiN | gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory |
| 10:45:11 | MeRWiN | make[1]: *** [/home/Administrator/rockbox/sim/button.o] Error 1 |
| 10:45:48 | Bagder | can you compile programs at all with that gcc? |
| 10:45:58 | Bagder | "installation problem" sounds bad |
| 10:46:09 | MeRWiN | which gcc should i use to compile this? |
| 10:46:15 | MeRWiN | regular gcc, sh1 gcc, |
| 10:46:17 | MeRWiN | etc |
| 10:46:28 | Bagder | regular gcc, the sim is built as a windows program |
| 10:46:45 | MeRWiN | it updates the dependencies but when it gets to button.o apparently it dies |
| 10:47:24 | Bagder | try running the gcc line "by hand" on the shell prompt |
| 10:47:42 | MeRWiN | now i'm getting BUTTON_MENU undeclared |
| 10:47:52 | MeRWiN | whoops, wrong place to compile it :P |
| 10:48:10 | MeRWiN | ignore that |
| 10:50:12 | MeRWiN | running that line gives me the same error |
| 10:50:22 | MeRWiN | gcc itself works, it compiled the tools fine |
| 10:51:03 | Bagder | odd |
| 10:53:33 | Bagder | still, it is a problem with the gcc |
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| 10:55:13 | LinusN | MeRWiN: how is your path set up? And did you install gcc at the default location? |
| 10:55:36 | MeRWiN | cygwin set up gcc |
| 10:56:10 | MeRWiN | PATH='/home/Administrator/sh1/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive/c/Progr |
| 10:56:11 | MeRWiN | am Files/Internet Explorer:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdriv |
| 10:56:11 | MeRWiN | e/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/gs/gs7.00/bin:/cygdrive/c/gs/gs7.00/lib:/cyg |
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| 10:56:11 | MeRWiN | drive/c/Programs/kpit/GNU-SH v0202 [ELF]/Sh-elf/bin/:/cygdrive/c/Programs/kpit/G |
| 10:56:11 | MeRWiN | NU-SH v0202 [ELF]/Sh-elf/lib/gcc-lib/sh-elf/2.9-GNU-SH-v0202/:/cygdrive/c/Progra |
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| 10:56:11 | MeRWiN | ms/kpit/GNU-SH v0202 [ELF]/Other Utilities:/usr/X11R6/bin' |
| 10:56:28 | Bagder | does it find the wrong version of 'as' perhaps? |
| 10:56:35 | MeRWiN | what is as? |
| 10:56:42 | Bagder | GNU assembler |
| 10:56:47 | MeRWiN | that might be it |
| 10:56:50 | MeRWiN | it doesn't exist :) |
| 10:57:24 | Bagder | well, gcc can't work without it so it must've existed if you built the tools with gcc |
| 10:57:55 | MeRWiN | Bagder: somehow it did work, cause i've got the tools :) |
| 10:58:03 | Bagder | yeah |
| 10:58:17 | MeRWiN | what is ld? |
| 10:58:28 | LinusN | the linker |
| 10:58:37 | LinusN | or "loader" |
| 10:59:01 | Bagder | linker in this context |
| 10:59:07 | MeRWiN | that's named ld2 on my system |
| 10:59:27 | Bagder | well it doesn't matter |
| 10:59:44 | Bagder | because 1. it fails before that and 2. we invoke it via gcc and it should know |
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| 11:00:13 | MeRWiN | can you just download gnu assembler as a single package? |
| 11:00:56 | LinusN | yes you can, they are called binutils |
| 11:01:01 | LinusN | but i don't see the point |
| 11:01:17 | LinusN | if gcc was included, then as is too |
| 11:01:46 | Bagder | and since you used gcc fine before, you has as before |
| 11:01:51 | Bagder | had |
| 11:02:21 | LinusN | i missed the discussion, when did it stop working? |
| 11:02:31 | Bagder | on the first c file |
| 11:02:44 | LinusN | no, you said he used gcc fine before |
| 11:02:47 | Bagder | recorder sim using cygwin |
| 11:02:54 | Bagder | right, he could build the tools before |
| 11:03:43 | MeRWiN | damn gcc is 9 megs |
| 11:04:02 | LinusN | i see that you have both gnush and a homebrewed SH1 compiler. why? |
| 11:04:49 | MeRWiN | i was trying mingw, then found out it doesn't work :) |
| 11:05:02 | Bagder | it works |
| 11:05:06 | Bagder | others have used it |
| 11:05:17 | MeRWiN | for the sim? |
| 11:05:20 | Bagder | yes |
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| 11:06:32 | Bagder | its just that windows is a mess |
| 11:06:42 | Bagder | all compilers need their own setup |
| 11:06:53 | Bagder | and no one truly maintains any of them |
| 11:07:31 | MeRWiN | :) |
| 11:08:41 | MeRWiN | apparently some cygwin installs didn't include as or ld :P |
| 11:08:54 | MeRWiN | i'm searching and there's a lot of posts in various places about that |
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| 11:14:09 | MeRWiN | bbiab |
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| 11:15:42 | LinusN | bbiab? Be Back In A ...what? |
| 11:15:58 | Bagder | billion years? |
| 11:16:04 | Bagder | B-) |
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| 11:16:05 | * | LinusN is not an Acronym Guru |
| 11:16:14 | Bagder | breakfast? |
| 11:16:20 | Bagder | bucket? |
| 11:24:48 | Bagder | kinda amusing the riaa hack |
| 11:24:52 | Bagder | http://minordamage.com/riaa_hack.jpg |
| 11:25:14 | Bagder | subtle |
| 11:25:42 | Hadaka | hah |
| 11:35:08 | Hes | Hahah |
| 11:50:19 | Bagder | I have another bug now |
| 11:50:32 | Bagder | I have playback with the PAUSE symbol in the status bar |
| 11:51:09 | Bagder | hehe, and then the pause button doesn't work |
| 11:51:15 | Bagder | it only changed the symbol |
| 11:51:40 | LinusN | on the target? |
| 11:51:40 | Bagder | try this: play a song for a while |
| 11:51:47 | Bagder | press pause |
| 11:51:50 | Bagder | press LEFT |
| 11:51:53 | Bagder | on a recorder |
| 11:52:28 | LinusN | and? |
| 11:52:31 | Bagder | I don't run the absolutely latest code, but I can't recall any fixes on this |
| 11:52:36 | LinusN | aha, now i see |
| 11:52:37 | Bagder | the pause symbol is there |
| 11:52:45 | Bagder | try this a few times |
| 11:52:52 | Bagder | my "total time" gets all wrong |
| 11:53:05 | LinusN | wacko! |
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| 11:57:21 | Bagder | heheheh |
| 11:57:33 | Bagder | soooo wrong ;-) |
| 11:59:15 | linuxstb | LinusN - any ideas about my "12 second problem" ? |
| 11:59:58 | LinusN | i'm working on it now |
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| 12:00:23 | linuxstb | Thanks - let me know if I can do anything to help. |
| 12:00:27 | LinusN | it's not exactly 12 seconds for me, rather 17-20 |
| 12:01:09 | LinusN | it sounds ok now |
| 12:01:20 | linuxstb | What have you changed? |
| 12:01:39 | LinusN | the MAS poll timer, from 2ms to 1ms, not something i like at all |
| 12:01:57 | linuxstb | What are the consequences? |
| 12:02:32 | LinusN | more CPU load |
| 12:02:57 | linuxstb | Which equals more power? |
| 12:03:56 | LinusN | possibly, and less responsive user interface, and... |
| 12:05:11 | LinusN | i wish i could use an interrupt for that... |
| 12:05:25 | LinusN | actually, i can on the recorder, but not on the player |
| 12:05:39 | linuxstb | That suits me - I have a recorder :-) |
| 12:06:43 | LinusN | actually, the CPU load is worse on the recorder too, so maybe i should work on using interrupts on the recorder |
| 12:07:20 | LinusN | i'll commit the poll timer change, and go to work on the interrupt at a later time |
| 12:07:47 | linuxstb | OK - thanks. I'll test it now and report back. |
| 12:08:46 | LinusN | done |
| 12:13:22 | linuxstb | Perfect! |
| 12:14:25 | linuxstb | Thanks a lot. Is it worthwhile for me to try values between 1ms and 2ms ? |
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| 12:16:11 | LinusN | linuxstb: not really |
| 12:16:33 | linuxstb | OK - I'll leave it alone. |
| 12:17:43 | LinusN | Bagder: what was the policy again? Close bug reports only on releases? |
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| 12:30:12 | LinusN | yo alan! |
| 12:30:19 | alkorr | Yo Linus |
| 12:30:20 | LinusN | long time no see |
| 12:30:37 | alkorr | yes that's true. |
| 12:30:45 | LinusN | long vacation eh? |
| 12:30:51 | alkorr | yeah ;) |
| 12:33:22 | alkorr | well i must reinstall everything, i thought it was my harddisk that crashes but it is my rack indeed but as I have already buy a new harddisk :/ |
| 12:33:41 | LinusN | reinstalling, that's fun |
| 12:34:38 | alkorr | not so much for me, I need to recollect all my settings and softwares |
| 12:35:03 | LinusN | i know, it sucks |
| 12:35:38 | alkorr | how is Zagor ? |
| 12:35:54 | alkorr | i mean how fine |
| 12:38:16 | LinusN | he's fine i think |
| 12:39:23 | alkorr | well, i have some to do, see you later |
| 12:39:27 | alkorr | job |
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| 12:43:04 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 12:43:16 | Mode | "#rockbox +o adi|home " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:43:18 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:43:25 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Zagor|away " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:48:50 | datazone | guess i am going to have to stay home today so that fedex can finaly deliver my 30G drive for my jukebox |
| 12:49:29 | LinusN | "worth waiting for" |
| 12:49:35 | datazone | i guess |
| 12:49:59 | datazone | i hope my boss dont mark it off as "time off" |
| 12:50:16 | datazone | i put in alot of extra time all over the place, not to mention that 12 hours on sunday |
| 12:52:05 | datazone | hmmm.. running remote apps over a dial-up is pretty weak |
| 12:54:07 | datazone | hey LinusN, when is rockbox going to have 10% more ball juice than any other archos jukebox firmware? |
| 12:55:06 | LinusN | i am a lame swedish coder, i don't know what "10% more ball juice" means :-) |
| 12:55:18 | datazone | i see |
| 12:55:33 | datazone | damn swedes |
| 12:55:55 | datazone | the only swede i know dont like finns |
| 12:56:15 | LinusN | they don't know a single word of plain english... :-) |
| 12:56:34 | datazone | i see, you dont have any love for the finns wither? |
| 12:56:39 | datazone | either |
| 12:56:51 | LinusN | i was talking about the swedes :-) |
| 12:56:56 | datazone | ah |
| 12:57:40 | LinusN | i mean, "10% more ball juice", that's plain simple everyday english |
| 12:57:51 | datazone | i guess |
| 12:58:10 | LinusN | oh yeah |
| 12:59:14 | LinusN | so, back to your question, what were you asking? :-) |
| 12:59:31 | LinusN | when we will rock even more? |
| 12:59:50 | datazone | its like asking: "when will rockbox whip the llama's arse?" |
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| 13:00:53 | datazone | what would be cool is if when the jukebox loaded the rockbox firmware, it could have a "splash sound" |
| 13:01:06 | datazone | so it could say cool stuff |
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| 13:15:03 | LinusN | why not? that would be very easy |
| 13:20:10 | Hes | .rockbox/bootsplash.mp3 |
| 13:21:09 | Bagder | LinusN: right, Zagor wants the bug reports closed on releases. I'd rather have them closed when fixed |
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| 13:21:33 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/rec-general.html |
| 13:21:37 | * | Bagder updated mucho |
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| 13:23:58 | LinusN | we still have key detection problems on old recorders... |
| 13:25:23 | LinusN | it's not easily solved |
| 13:26:18 | Bagder | so you know why it happens? |
| 13:26:37 | langhaarrocker | Linuxdummyquestion: How do I extend the PATH environment variable in cygwin? |
| 13:26:57 | LinusN | Bagder: yes, his UP key gives very low A/D readings |
| 13:27:09 | LinusN | sometimes |
| 13:27:29 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: 'export PATH="${PATH}:/new/piece/to/add"' |
| 13:28:09 | langhaarrocker | Badger: Thanx |
| 13:28:09 | langhaarrocker | LinusN: Maybe the bug is squished between the button contacts? |
| 13:28:21 | LinusN | but his UP key readings vary a lot, so i suspect that it is broken |
| 13:28:22 | PsycoXul | you know something keeps making me want to put the words "Don't Panic!" in large friendly letters accross the front of my jukebox |
| 13:28:25 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: :-) |
| 13:28:25 | Bagder | hehehe |
| 13:29:48 | Bagder | any feelings on adding a footer to mails sent to the mailing list? |
| 13:29:58 | Bagder | like a FAQ pointer |
| 13:30:03 | LinusN | i hate footers |
| 13:30:09 | Hes | footers suck |
| 13:30:18 | Hes | if they don't read the welcome mail, they won't read footers |
| 13:30:19 | LinusN | and i'm not sure that will cure the FAQ-blindness |
| 13:30:22 | Hes | and they're stupid |
| 13:30:28 | Bagder | true |
| 13:30:50 | LinusN | it'll just increase the archive size |
| 13:31:07 | LinusN | just like those PGP blobs :-) |
| 13:31:50 | Hes | LinusN: btw - the current CVS code with STANDBY defined instead of SLEEP in ata.c did not skip at all |
| 13:32:01 | LinusN | i figured that |
| 13:32:13 | LinusN | and my box is HOT with SLEEP |
| 13:32:15 | Hes | on the other hand - it didn't spin the disk either since it issued ATA_STANDBY command instead of ATA_STANDBY_IMMEDIATE 8-) |
| 13:32:33 | LinusN | hehe, and when you changed that? |
| 13:32:49 | Hes | I didn't change that |
| 13:32:58 | Hes | that's what the current cvs ata.c does |
| 13:32:59 | Hes | it's a bug in there |
| 13:33:22 | LinusN | no, i mean did it skip when you corrected that bug? |
| 13:33:29 | Hes | 08:32 < Zagor> odd, how did we manage to break this? we used standby mode in 1.2... |
| 13:33:34 | Hes | 08:37 < Zagor> Hes: heck, I don't see how this could ever have worked... :-) |
| 13:33:46 | Hes | I didn't try that yet |
| 13:33:53 | Hes | i fixed that bug now, will try it this evening |
| 13:39:34 | LinusN | Hes: I have a theory |
| 13:40:06 | LinusN | the wait_for_rdy() code may be flawed |
| 13:40:22 | LinusN | it waits for !BSY and then expects RDY to be 1 |
| 13:40:40 | LinusN | it would probably have to wait for RDY to become 1 as well |
| 13:40:48 | Hes | Hmm, interesting. |
| 13:41:05 | * | Hes walks back to office from the machine room |
| 13:43:23 | LinusN | i really think that wait_for_rdy() is flawed |
| 13:50:20 | Bagder | to prove how evil I am, I'll not update the player manual |
| 13:50:33 | LinusN | Hes: I have corrected wait_for_rdy() now |
| 13:50:35 | langhaarrocker | Is the uisimulator known to work with WindowsXP? |
| 13:50:45 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: I think so |
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| 13:52:17 | LinusN | gotta go now |
| 13:52:21 | LinusN | cu guys! |
| 13:52:24 | Bagder | bye LinusN |
| 13:52:29 | bobTHC | bye |
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| 13:53:42 | langhaarrocker | Is the recordersimulator known to be broken currently? |
| 13:57:16 | Bagder | is it? |
| 13:57:29 | langhaarrocker | Or it works strange under WindowsXP |
| 13:58:08 | Bagder | I have no idea |
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| 14:03:49 | PsycoXul | ok as of current cvs |
| 14:04:03 | PsycoXul | the config for FF/rewind accel doesn't display right |
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| 14:04:41 | PsycoXul | the actualy line that shows the setting shows other general settings menu options and misc garbage |
| 14:05:17 | PsycoXul | ah going all the way left started showing something that makes sense |
| 14:05:39 | PsycoXul | it was probably my old setting of 30 seconds... it use the same config byte or whatever? |
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| 14:06:58 | diddystar5 | ahh leaving to regon today |
| 14:07:07 | diddystar5 | *oregon |
| 14:09:06 | diddystar5 | i go bye |
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| 14:11:42 | langhaarrocker | The simulator shows the animated battery loading symbol and the Vol. symbol in the archos design, F1 doesn't pop up any menu, with the curser you can navigate over menu items that don't exist, ... Is that how it should be? |
| 14:12:11 | Bagder | no |
| 14:16:43 | langhaarrocker | Does it something different with the unix build? |
| 14:17:11 | Bagder | some things of course, but the main stuff should be the same |
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| 14:23:06 | langhaarrocker | What I meant: does the linux build of the recorder simulator seem to work properly on the current sources? |
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| 14:25:01 | Bagder | yes, I haven't noticed any obvious flaws |
| 14:25:14 | Bagder | can you tell me one flaw you can repeat? |
| 14:25:22 | Bagder | so I can try |
| 14:26:36 | langhaarrocker | F1 doesn't pop up any menu |
| 14:27:01 | Bagder | the % key you mean? |
| 14:27:51 | Bagder | hm, maybe the win sim have the keys differently |
| 14:27:57 | Bagder | well I get a menu |
| 14:28:41 | langhaarrocker | should I be able to operate the keys by mouse? |
| 14:28:48 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 14:29:02 | Bagder | I've never even seen the win32 simulator |
| 14:29:09 | Bagder | in that aspect, they differ a lot |
| 14:29:41 | langhaarrocker | But you also get the animated battery loading symbol in the archos design? |
| 14:30:00 | Bagder | no |
| 14:30:15 | langhaarrocker | That's what I get |
| 14:30:19 | Bagder | it looks like a fully charged battery to me |
| 14:30:59 | langhaarrocker | And on the right top edge there is the volume display as known from the original recorder firmware |
| 14:31:26 | Bagder | not here |
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| 14:41:06 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/designs.html |
| 14:41:21 | Bagder | design #25 in place |
| 14:42:40 | bobTHC | powered by brain ...:) |
| 14:44:06 | bobTHC | 25 design, it's a pretty number... |
| 14:44:17 | Bagder | quite a lot indeed |
| 14:44:55 | bobTHC | and it's not finish... |
| 14:45:09 | Bagder | but very soon |
| 14:45:52 | bobTHC | 2 days left.... |
| 14:46:20 | Hes | I like 23 and 24 a lot. |
| 14:47:40 | bobTHC | for back or front...? |
| 14:48:17 | Bagder | well the competition rules actuall don't mention which side the print is for ;-) |
| 14:48:33 | bobTHC | clever! |
| 14:48:48 | Bagder | then again, they say "single sided" too... |
| 14:49:21 | Bagder | I'm sure we'll work it out ;-) |
| 14:49:33 | bobTHC | of course... |
| 14:58:10 | mbr | Bagder: What shall I do with the scrollbar enabling code? check it in or send a patch to ML? |
| 14:58:19 | * | adi|home is kinda sorry that he was the first to ask to bend the rules |
| 14:58:33 | adi|home | cause everyone faollowed... |
| 14:58:36 | * | adi|home is a trend setter |
| 14:59:19 | mbr | Bagder: Will not get into conflict with the CodePolice :) |
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| 15:00:47 | | Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 15:01:31 | mbr | Hi Zagor! |
| 15:01:35 | Zagor | hi |
| 15:02:07 | mbr | I have enabled the scrollbar in tree and menus. What shall I do with the code? check in or patch to ML? |
| 15:02:27 | Zagor | send a patch first |
| 15:02:35 | mbr | OK. |
| 15:03:14 | Bagder | Zagor: now fix the web so that it updates on head.t changes too :-) |
| 15:03:24 | * | Bagder fixed the manual link |
| 15:03:41 | Zagor | blueh. dependencies suck! ;) |
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| 15:14:39 | Bagder | I updated the recorder manual |
| 15:14:44 | Bagder | now it is somewhat up-to-date |
| 15:14:57 | Bagder | someone else need to fix the player one |
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| 15:17:21 | adi|home | can someone explain this submission to me... |
| 15:17:22 | adi|home | Instead of replacing the 20Gb HD by a 40Gb, I'd rather |
| 15:17:23 | adi|home | have mp3 pro proper decoding to gain some space :) |
| 15:17:23 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK adi|home |
| 15:17:23 | adi|home | Is it possible a least ? |
| 15:17:39 | adi|home | what is mp3 pro? |
| 15:17:54 | Zagor | the New Shiny (and very expensive) Codec from Fraunhofer. |
| 15:18:02 | Zagor | claims good quality at 64 kbit |
| 15:18:22 | Zagor | it's not true, of course. |
| 15:18:32 | Zagor | but that doesn't stop people from drooling about it. |
| 15:18:58 | adi|home | hehehehe |
| 15:19:02 | adi|home | why isn't it true? |
| 15:19:17 | Zagor | the quality isn't that good |
| 15:19:25 | Hes | snakeoil? |
| 15:19:46 | Zagor | not really snake oil, but 64kbit mp3pro sounds worse than 128kbit mp3 |
| 15:19:51 | Zagor | and they claim similar quality |
| 15:20:17 | Hes | Ok |
| 15:20:18 | Zagor | it *is* a more efficient codec, though. so it's not all a bluff. |
| 15:20:38 | Zagor | then again, why opt for yet another patented codec when there's ogg? |
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| 15:20:55 | * | adi|home screams |
| 15:21:07 | Bagder | only because thompson scares people off by showing them their lawyers |
| 15:21:13 | adi|home | "Ive looked in the archive.. but i was too lazy to read the FAQ... can we play other formats?" |
| 15:21:18 | * | adi|home screams somemore |
| 15:22:16 | langhaarrocker | adj|home: Do you vote for a qualification test before users may subscribe to the mailing list? ;) |
| 15:22:33 | Bagder | hehe, another one found the bugs I saw |
| 15:22:40 | Zagor | Hes: did the STANDBY_IMMEDIATE fix your skipping? |
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| 15:22:46 | Hes | I didn't test yet |
| 15:22:50 | Zagor | ok |
| 15:23:04 | Hes | Can do one or two good tests a day 8-) |
| 15:25:14 | adi|home | I think i need to find out where this Steve Lhomme lives |
| 15:25:18 | adi|home | and slash his car tires |
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| 15:25:56 | langhaarrocker | adj|home: he doesn't write mails with car tires |
| 15:26:24 | adi|home | lol |
| 15:26:25 | adi|home | true |
| 15:26:36 | adi|home | but if he has to replace his tires.. he's away from the comp that much longer :) |
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| 15:28:10 | Zagor | does anyone have any idea why google refuses to index the mail archive? |
| 15:29:16 | Zagor | makes the search form rather useless |
| 15:30:36 | Bagder | the July archive seems to be there |
| 15:30:55 | PsycoXul | google's usualy at least a month behind |
| 15:31:01 | Zagor | Bagder: that's because the search form currently uses the old address. try site:rockbox.haxx.se and it only shows the web pages |
| 15:31:09 | Bagder | ah |
| 15:31:36 | Zagor | PsycoXul: I know. but now it has indexed the new domain, but not the mail archive pages |
| 15:31:48 | PsycoXul | heh *shrug* |
| 15:34:16 | adi|home | okay.. i address the other format question again in the faq.. new question |
| 15:34:20 | adi|home | and its the last fuckign one |
| 15:35:21 | langhaarrocker | maybe you should take a deep breath and calm down before extending the faq... :) |
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| 15:47:45 | Bagder | I've seen that 1024kbit bug too |
| 15:47:58 | Bagder | but only when I used 'prev' |
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| 16:09:35 | Zagor | i've seen it too |
| 16:09:45 | Zagor | bit it always went away |
| 16:09:54 | Zagor | i blame bad state handling |
| 16:10:23 | Bagder | I had a song playing along fine with it on screen |
| 16:10:34 | Bagder | but then I tried next -> prev |
| 16:10:39 | Bagder | and it didn't appear again |
| 16:10:47 | Zagor | odd |
| 16:11:23 | bobTHC | what u think about a XML favorite & contact manager like on the ipod... (for the 2.x version of course) ? |
| 16:11:39 | Bagder | fine, except that XML will be a huge overkill |
| 16:12:30 | bobTHC | not totally xml compliant, just @ least Vcard compliant... |
| 16:14:47 | bobTHC | but of course without diskwriting it only can be a viewer and not "manager".. ;) |
| 16:15:39 | Zagor | bobTHC: great idea. can you write the first version? |
| 16:16:45 | bobTHC | i haven't the C skills, perhaps after december..(i start C course) |
| 16:16:55 | bobTHC | sorry zagor :( |
| 16:17:03 | Zagor | no problem |
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| 16:26:22 | Bagder | time to go |
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| 16:32:31 | * | bobTHC add : for interested people , info on Vcard and Vcalendar @ http://www.imc.org/pdi/ |
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| 16:49:05 | Zagor | adi|home: you here? |
| 16:49:24 | Zagor | "A whole bunch of us at work have Archos players / recorders. I discovered your FAQ today and past it around the office, to much amusement. We have decided to prepare our FAQ's to a similar style and standard." |
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| 16:49:40 | bobTHC | I Post Vmanager as Request ? |
| 16:49:46 | Zagor | bobTHC: sure |
| 16:49:49 | Zagor | hi alan! |
| 16:49:51 | adi|home | LOL |
| 16:49:53 | adi|home | i love it |
| 16:49:56 | adi|home | thanks Zagor :) |
| 16:50:07 | alkorr | hi Zagor ! |
| 16:50:09 | Zagor | i thought you should get the credit :) |
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| 16:50:10 | * | adi|home puffs up his chest and all |
| 16:50:18 | adi|home | you get that in an email? |
| 16:50:27 | Zagor | yup |
| 16:50:34 | adi|home | mind sending me a copy? |
| 16:50:38 | Zagor | sure |
| 16:50:41 | adi|home | ty |
| 16:50:45 | adi|home | rhak@ramapo.edu |
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| 16:55:15 | langhaarrocker | maybe the line "- Support playing of other files types (ie: Ogg Vorbis support)" should be deleted from Q17 in the faq? |
| 16:55:37 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: why? nobody ever reads it anyway. ;-) |
| 16:56:09 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 16:56:14 | adi|home | heheh |
| 16:56:21 | adi|home | why do you want to delete it langhaarrocker? |
| 16:57:28 | langhaarrocker | I should have put ;) behind it. The line might inspire strange thoughts in Steve Lhommes head... |
| 16:57:36 | adi|home | hehehe |
| 16:58:02 | adi|home | im on the verge of telling the next motherfucker that asks about formats to 'LEARN TO FUCKING READ YOU BASTARD!" |
| 16:58:21 | datazone | so adi|home, what formats are supported now? :) |
| 16:58:30 | * | datazone runs |
| 16:58:41 | adi|home | hehehee |
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| 17:01:51 | langhaarrocker | And what is more important: Is there a way to make the Jukebox never never never play specific songs that should be forbidden for obvious bad taste? |
| 17:02:08 | quelsaruk | Zagor: the first thing i did when i first tried rockbox was reading the FAQ... am i a strange man? |
| 17:02:17 | adi|home | hehehe i love that FAQ email.. thanks Zagor :) |
| 17:02:21 | adi|home | makes me feel really good |
| 17:02:24 | Zagor | quelsaruk: you're a hero! ;) |
| 17:02:26 | Zagor | adi|home: yeah |
| 17:02:35 | adi|home | yup quelsaruk |
| 17:02:40 | adi|home | truth is.. alot of ppl do that |
| 17:02:45 | adi|home | then read the mail and irc archives |
| 17:02:52 | Zagor | most sensible people do, yes |
| 17:02:58 | adi|home | its just that the random few that dont are soooo blaringly obvious |
| 17:03:01 | Zagor | that's why we don't see them post silly questions to the list |
| 17:03:22 | quelsaruk | Zagor: it's just common sense, if i come here afterwadrs and start asking questions in the FAQ... you could think i'm stupid, or even worst |
| 17:03:30 | | Part Ucender ("A+") |
| 17:04:39 | Zagor | quelsaruk: oh, we'd *never* think that ;-> |
| 17:04:48 | quelsaruk | sure??? |
| 17:04:52 | quelsaruk | XD |
| 17:05:47 | quelsaruk | Zagor: do you know if linus is comming today? |
| 17:06:00 | Zagor | i don't know. i've been away most of the day myself. |
| 17:06:07 | quelsaruk | thx |
| 17:07:21 | quelsaruk | by the way Zagor |
| 17:07:39 | quelsaruk | Mor du brä? <−−- as you can see i'm learning swedish :) |
| 17:08:02 | Zagor | well you have a bit left. :-) "Mår du bra" is the correct spelling. |
| 17:08:12 | quelsaruk | jajaja |
| 17:08:15 | Zagor | hehe |
| 17:08:25 | quelsaruk | i'm not perfect |
| 17:11:21 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:17:51 | adi|home | Zagor i ment to ask |
| 17:17:54 | * | bobTHC says : Vmanager request posted ... |
| 17:17:57 | adi|home | how do you do those special chars? |
| 17:18:55 | | Join Heltrskeltr349 [0] (dsfjdsklfj@pm727-02.dialip.mich.net) |
| 17:19:08 | Zagor | lcd_define_pattern |
| 17:19:28 | adi|home | no no no.. i mean here :) |
| 17:19:36 | Zagor | you mean åäö ? |
| 17:19:48 | Heltrskeltr349 | anybody know why I get a "required .DLL file, MSVCR70.DLL, was not found" error when I try to run the simulator? |
| 17:20:16 | adi|home | yeah.. those |
| 17:20:32 | Zagor | they're on the swedish keyboard layout |
| 17:20:39 | adi|home | looks like its looking for a visual c dll |
| 17:20:45 | adi|home | ahh.. okay.. |
| 17:21:05 | Heltrskeltr349 | hmm..i guess I should find it then |
| 17:21:10 | Zagor | adi|home: http://www.sun.com/developers/gadc/tools/keyboards/type6_sw.html |
| 17:21:27 | adi|home | ty :) |
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| 17:24:43 | quelsaruk | Heltrskeltr349: i can send it to you.. i have it on my win2k partition :) |
| 17:25:32 | alkorr | quelsaruk, i need it too |
| 17:25:57 | Heltrskeltr349 | actually, I'm getting it now |
| 17:26:01 | Heltrskeltr349 | thanks anyways though :) |
| 17:26:13 | quelsaruk | wait a minute so.. alkorr, i'll send you via dcc |
| 17:26:38 | langhaarrocker | Now I'm thrilled to see wether your uisimulator work properly! |
| 17:27:18 | quelsaruk | i couln't use win simulator... i don't know why |
| 17:27:34 | Heltrskeltr349 | it didn't run on win98 or winxp |
| 17:27:42 | quelsaruk | neither win2k |
| 17:28:13 | quelsaruk | edx made simulator run on his winxp |
| 17:29:04 | quelsaruk | in win2k it entered into a loop, and crashed |
| 17:29:17 | langhaarrocker | I get something running on winxp, too, but it doesn't do anything similar to the rockbox firmware. |
| 17:29:37 | | Join sylvr [0] (silver@typhoon.xnet.com) |
| 17:31:07 | langhaarrocker | What do you other windows users use to compile the uisimulators? VC6? VC7? |
| 17:32:17 | Heltrskeltr349 | alright it's running now |
| 17:32:52 | langhaarrocker | does it behave somehow as expected? |
| 17:32:54 | bobTHC | VC 7 isn't .NET C# ? |
| 17:33:00 | alkorr | yep |
| 17:33:14 | quelsaruk | alkorr: are you getting that dcc? |
| 17:33:47 | langhaarrocker | NET c#? Is that free? |
| 17:34:04 | alkorr | surely not |
| 17:34:10 | alkorr | yep |
| 17:34:13 | langhaarrocker | och menno |
| 17:34:17 | bobTHC | u know a lot of thing free for Micro$oft ??? |
| 17:34:49 | langhaarrocker | Didn't know NET c# at all-> neither that it's by MS |
| 17:35:26 | Heltrskeltr349 | none of the buttons are working |
| 17:35:35 | Zagor | it's called "C Hash" -> Cash. That's all they want from you. ;) |
| 17:35:47 | bobTHC | heltuse keyboard. |
| 17:35:48 | fragglet | .net is kind of cool |
| 17:36:20 | Zagor | yeah. like tooth aches. |
| 17:36:49 | alkorr | :) |
| 17:37:14 | langhaarrocker | Heltrskeltr349: Have you tried the cursor left / cursor right / Enter Keys? The seemed to do at least somehting - even if unpredictable. |
| 17:37:39 | fragglet | no seriously its one of the few cool things i've seen microsoft do |
| 17:37:49 | Heltrskeltr349 | that kinda sucks |
| 17:37:52 | fragglet | looks really good |
| 17:38:17 | bobTHC | fragglet : cool thing from kro$oft ? |
| 17:38:24 | fragglet | heh |
| 17:39:06 | bobTHC | just usable but surely not "cool" nor "clean" |
| 17:39:17 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 17:39:45 | langhaarrocker | I just saw someone with THC in his name use the word clean. |
| 17:40:09 | fragglet | http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2002/20020722l.gif |
| 17:40:21 | bobTHC | THC is surely more clean than microsoft bunch of crooks ... |
| 17:42:36 | langhaarrocker | The problem is: They're high on money... |
| 17:42:50 | fragglet | .net is basically java but microsoft have the power to make it succeed |
| 17:43:17 | Zagor | fragglet: you are talking about C#. .Net is vastly larger and more sinister. |
| 17:43:27 | fragglet | i wouldnt call it sinister |
| 17:43:40 | fragglet | its like java but with more languages |
| 17:43:59 | fragglet | which is one of the cool things |
| 17:44:04 | langhaarrocker | ant with this C# you can get the uisumulator running? |
| 17:44:06 | Zagor | again, you are only looking at a small subset. step back a bit and look at the big pictire. |
| 17:44:13 | fragglet | i am |
| 17:44:54 | fragglet | its all it is really |
| 17:44:59 | Zagor | C# is not .Net. CLR is not .Net. |
| 17:45:00 | fragglet | if you look at the diagrams for the java framework |
| 17:45:11 | fragglet | and the diagrams for .net |
| 17:45:14 | fragglet | they are almost identical |
| 17:45:22 | fragglet | with different names |
| 17:45:31 | bobTHC | it's just parts of the "kill'them'all" Kro$oft business plan .... |
| 17:45:53 | fragglet | yeah whatever |
| 17:45:55 | bobTHC | and this plan looks working very good... |
| 17:46:15 | fragglet | jvm -> clr |
| 17:46:18 | fragglet | c# -> java |
| 17:46:26 | Zagor | The .Net plan also includes Passport, Hailstorm etc. It's not a language, it's a business model. |
| 17:46:26 | fragglet | er switch those heh |
| 17:46:55 | fragglet | thats just the authentication part |
| 17:47:00 | fragglet | which is really just a library |
| 17:47:23 | fragglet | and from what i understand its modular |
| 17:47:35 | bobTHC | backdoors, spyware, really modular... |
| 17:48:13 | fragglet | bobTHC: please continue, everything you write makes me crack up laughing :) |
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| 17:48:54 | Hadaka | fragglet: don't you stop either :) |
| 17:49:00 | fragglet | heh |
| 17:49:05 | bobTHC | hey : fragglet : I'm using win2K |
| 17:49:11 | fragglet | hahahaha |
| 17:49:34 | bobTHC | look @ CTCP version... |
| 17:49:36 | fragglet | anyway i think its just really good technology |
| 17:50:04 | Hadaka | mhaha |
| 17:50:13 | fragglet | if you see past your microsoft prejudices and look at it properly you can see |
| 17:50:38 | Zagor | don't confuse "prejudice" with "experience" |
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| 17:53:44 | Zagor | sorry, didn't mean to kill the discussion ;) |
| 17:53:53 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 17:56:52 | langhaarrocker | Is there any code that relates to decoding mp3 frameheaders or similar yet? |
| 17:57:09 | Zagor | yes, in id3.c |
| 17:57:24 | langhaarrocker | Thanx |
| 17:58:51 | bobTHC | fragglet :at all It's just an ethical and seriousness question. |
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| 18:00:06 | bobTHC | I'm surely too romantic (perhaps pots do that)... |
| 18:02:47 | | Part langhaarrocker |
| 18:03:21 | bobTHC | CU soon... |
| 18:03:34 | | Part bobTHC |
| 18:05:35 | | Join nuphem [0] (~him10101@66-108-139-81.nyc.rr.com) |
| 18:06:03 | nuphem | hi! can anyone help me? |
| 18:06:13 | nuphem | problems with rockbox recently |
| 18:07:16 | Zagor | what problems? |
| 18:08:06 | nuphem | 2 of em |
| 18:08:22 | nuphem | 1- none of my directories show up on v 1.3 or later |
| 18:08:33 | nuphem | i haven't loaded any earlier ones since 1.2 (i was away) |
| 18:09:09 | nuphem | 2- i mentioned this 2 weeks ago−− when i disconnect my usb i just get a message mount = -1 |
| 18:09:53 | quelsaruk | maybe it's the new "hide option", or not zagor? |
| 18:10:01 | Zagor | could be |
| 18:10:02 | nuphem | i toggled all of those settigns |
| 18:10:06 | nuphem | nothing helped |
| 18:10:27 | nuphem | unless there's something major that i missed |
| 18:13:23 | Zagor | nuphem: have you ever seen directories with rockbox? |
| 18:13:51 | nuphem | yeah, sure |
| 18:16:33 | Zagor | since when doesn't it work? |
| 18:17:24 | nuphem | well as i said, i havent tried anything between v.1.2 and v.1.3, but somewhere in there it stopped working |
| 18:23:45 | hardeep | okay, rewind/pause/playback bug should be fixed |
| 18:24:33 | hardeep | anyone have or know where I can find really, really long mp3 files? |
| 18:25:14 | Zagor | no idea |
| 18:25:23 | nuphem | how long is that? |
| 18:25:55 | hardeep | bug reports 3 hours and 5 hours, heh |
| 18:26:24 | nuphem | oh... i dont either then |
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| 18:27:12 | nuphem | so zagor have any ideas on either problem? |
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| 18:29:47 | Zagor | can't say I do. you probably have some strange partition or something. |
| 18:36:00 | | Quit nuphem (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 18:47:10 | quelsaruk | i have a question not related with rockbox.. just if someone knows how to help me: i have a ntfs partition and want to make it fat32 (so i can access it from both linux and windows) how can i do this without loosing my info? |
| 18:47:32 | Zagor | quelsaruk: backup, reformat, restore |
| 18:47:43 | quelsaruk | 40GB? |
| 18:47:57 | Zagor | actually, linux can read ntfs disks. it just can't write to them. |
| 18:47:59 | quelsaruk | that's my last option.. |
| 18:48:04 | quelsaruk | i know |
| 18:48:16 | quelsaruk | but i need to write into it |
| 18:48:37 | Zagor | maybe you can borrow another harddisk to make a temporary backup? |
| 18:49:01 | Zagor | there's no way to "convert" from one file system to another |
| 18:49:34 | quelsaruk | well, you can "migrate" from fat32 to nfts |
| 18:49:47 | Zagor | really? that's quite a trick... |
| 18:49:58 | quelsaruk | but i can't find the way to migrate from ntfs to fat32 |
| 18:50:17 | quelsaruk | i think it's just a one-way migration |
| 18:50:25 | Zagor | probably |
| 18:50:27 | alkorr | Zagor, it can write but in experimental way ;) |
| 18:50:31 | alkorr | ntfs |
| 18:50:38 | quelsaruk | really? |
| 18:50:43 | Zagor | heh, yeah. I wouldn't trust it though :) |
| 18:51:21 | alkorr | yes i did set it on and have be able to write into a ntfs |
| 18:51:33 | quelsaruk | well... i suppose i will backup my info in another drive and format the partition |
| 18:51:50 | alkorr | it's better :) |
| 18:52:26 | quelsaruk | :) |
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| 18:54:30 | nuphem | sorry, i had some internet problems |
| 18:55:15 | nuphem | but im back and i know you're all just so excited... |
| 18:55:29 | quelsaruk | ... |
| 18:55:32 | quelsaruk | XDDDD |
| 18:57:48 | nuphem | shall i repeat my problems? |
| 18:58:19 | quelsaruk | no, nuphem |
| 18:58:27 | quelsaruk | but i have no idea... |
| 18:58:36 | nuphem | oh |
| 18:58:51 | nuphem | would it help to know when each of them began? |
| 18:59:02 | Zagor | nuphem: yes |
| 18:59:06 | | Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
| 18:59:09 | dwihno | Good evening |
| 18:59:21 | quelsaruk | have you turned on show hidden files?? |
| 18:59:21 | Zagor | nuphem: can you try the daily builds and see if any of them work? |
| 18:59:23 | dwihno | Zagor: you're here 24/7 to prevent ugly code from entering the CVS? |
| 18:59:26 | dwihno | :-) |
| 18:59:52 | Zagor | dwihno: yup :) |
| 18:59:58 | * | Zagor is The Code Police |
| 18:59:58 | nuphem | quelsaruk: yes |
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| 19:00:23 | nuphem | zagor: old ones i assume. recent ones doent seem to work |
| 19:00:35 | Zagor | nuphem: yes. try the oldest first |
| 19:00:52 | nuphem | okie dokie |
| 19:00:55 | * | dwihno is gfx dude, the sidekick of the code police ;D |
| 19:01:37 | Zagor | we should make a movie |
| 19:01:44 | dwihno | Yeah |
| 19:01:53 | dwihno | Bruce Willis would play me |
| 19:02:01 | Zagor | woody allen would play me |
| 19:02:04 | dwihno | and Rowan Atkinson would do the Zagor part :) |
| 19:02:16 | Zagor | hehe, excellent choice! |
| 19:02:34 | dwihno | But who would do Linus and Bagder? |
| 19:02:37 | quelsaruk | jajaja |
| 19:02:43 | dwihno | The Olsen-twins? :) |
| 19:03:23 | dwihno | Zagor: is there custom WPS support for the recorder in? |
| 19:03:40 | Zagor | nope |
| 19:03:51 | Zagor | at least i haven't seen it in the cvs logs |
| 19:04:10 | dwihno | mkay |
| 19:04:16 | dwihno | It would be neat though |
| 19:04:24 | Zagor | it sure would |
| 19:04:49 | dwihno | but the "parse" mode is gay |
| 19:05:04 | dwihno | it bugs out on me every day |
| 19:05:08 | Zagor | :-) |
| 19:05:15 | dwihno | I just want it to go away |
| 19:05:20 | alkorr | poetry ? |
| 19:05:24 | dwihno | So what do you say? |
| 19:05:48 | dwihno | nah |
| 19:05:53 | dwihno | just me wanting the code fixed :) |
| 19:06:21 | dwihno | I comment the "strip mp3"-part to keep it intact |
| 19:06:30 | Zagor | i'm currently doing a Massive Rewrite of the wps, so you'll have to wait a bit |
| 19:07:02 | dwihno | :( |
| 19:07:10 | dwihno | Why rewrite it? |
| 19:07:17 | Zagor | because it's a horrible mess |
| 19:07:24 | dwihno | MR-WPS - the massively rewritten wps :D |
| 19:07:33 | nuphem | ok zagor well i get some new weird shit with daily build from the 24th (oldest on the site) |
| 19:07:50 | Zagor | nuphem: such as? |
| 19:08:35 | nuphem | well with case sensitive off |
| 19:08:54 | nuphem | i get nothing, same as what i have gotten on other versions |
| 19:09:07 | nuphem | which is just a cursor and no folders |
| 19:09:44 | nuphem | but with it on, i get folder icons with ???? as the first name and ????????.??? as the rest |
| 19:10:23 | nuphem | and i get Roc?# as the very last entry |
| 19:10:29 | Zagor | seriously wacko stuff |
| 19:11:03 | nuphem | i can give more details about its wackness but i assume we're beyond all normal signs here? |
| 19:11:06 | Zagor | Roc?# is the settings sector. this means it's mounting the partition on the wrong start sector |
| 19:11:17 | Zagor | yes, way beyond... |
| 19:11:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:11:41 | nuphem | so is that good news to see Roc?# −− dont we know the problem at least somewhat |
| 19:12:58 | Zagor | not really... it can't find a sane partition, so tries to mount the disk raw, and it fails. that's my best guess. |
| 19:13:07 | Zagor | you are using windows, right? |
| 19:13:11 | nuphem | yeah |
| 19:13:56 | nuphem | but i do have access to linux |
| 19:14:53 | Zagor | you do? can you plug in the archos and run "fdisk -l /dev/sda" ? |
| 19:16:07 | nuphem | well to be honest i cant really get to it now and have internet access... the network around here is really messed up |
| 19:16:15 | nuphem | at least for the time being |
| 19:16:22 | Zagor | ok :( |
| 19:16:29 | Zagor | i'd like to see how the disk looks |
| 19:17:03 | nuphem | but fdisk is in dos, i can do that, right |
| 19:17:11 | nuphem | or something with it at least |
| 19:17:11 | Zagor | no you need the linux fdisk |
| 19:17:20 | Zagor | dos fdisk can't see the usb drive |
| 19:21:05 | quelsaruk | if you have partition magic you can see the usb drive |
| 19:21:21 | dwihno | Ah |
| 19:21:23 | dwihno | Now I remember |
| 19:21:33 | dwihno | I was supposed to ask you Zagor about some hardware stuff... |
| 19:22:10 | dwihno | Zagor: I've been looking around for an external USB 2.0 cabinet. Is there a risk there's another ATA-USB bridge than the ISD-300? |
| 19:22:20 | Zagor | probably |
| 19:22:39 | dwihno | Don't say so! :( |
| 19:22:41 | dwihno | *sob* |
| 19:23:46 | dwihno | is there some way to check what kind of bridge hardware there is without tearing the unit apart? |
| 19:24:10 | Zagor | ask the vendor |
| 19:24:20 | Zagor | or plug it into a linux box and examine /proc/bus/usb |
| 19:24:36 | Zagor | every USB controller has a unique ID, just like PCI devices |
| 19:24:52 | Zagor | isd300 is 05ab:0060 |
| 19:24:53 | dwihno | ah, okay |
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| 19:26:03 | dwihno | As long as the bridge hardware is mass storage compliant... |
| 19:26:15 | nuphem | well thats an example of our excellent network here |
| 19:26:46 | Zagor | nuphem: looks like fun :) |
| 19:26:49 | dwihno | the taiwanese company skymaster has made some USB 1.1 cabinets which uses the ISD-200, so I mailed them and asked about the USB 2 model, no answers :( |
| 19:28:16 | nuphem | so is there anything useful i can do through windows? |
| 19:28:45 | Zagor | nuphem: i'm not sure. maybe partition magic can tell you how the disk is partitioned? |
| 19:28:49 | quelsaruk | partition magic? |
| 19:29:08 | quelsaruk | (it was a retoric question) |
| 19:29:10 | nuphem | yeah i was just trying to convince my brother to give it to me |
| 19:31:24 | Zagor | aaah. cut down wps_show() from 567 to 320 lines |
| 19:31:31 | Zagor | 230 even |
| 19:31:52 | Zagor | hope it works ;) |
| 19:32:17 | quelsaruk | wau |
| 19:33:55 | nuphem | btw zagor i had that other issue when i disconnect the usb, i get a message that reads 'mount = -1' |
| 19:34:12 | Zagor | nuphem: it's probably the same thing |
| 19:35:15 | nuphem | even though it worked way back when i could actually see folders? |
| 19:35:54 | quelsaruk | nuphem: now i can remember something like that happend to me 1 year ago |
| 19:35:59 | quelsaruk | using archos firmware |
| 19:36:17 | Zagor | nuphem: i guess you don't want to try reformatting the disk? |
| 19:36:34 | nuphem | no not again... well i suppose it's not so bad if i just back it up first... |
| 19:36:34 | quelsaruk | you dont need to format |
| 19:36:54 | quelsaruk | if only i can remember how i made it work... |
| 19:37:12 | nuphem | no im sure this is all a result of windows having partitioned my disk |
| 19:37:23 | quelsaruk | yes.. |
| 19:37:27 | quelsaruk | is something like that |
| 19:37:37 | quelsaruk | shit, i can't remember the english word |
| 19:37:49 | quelsaruk | in spanish is "tabla de contenidos" |
| 19:38:00 | quelsaruk | arggg |
| 19:38:08 | nuphem | table of contents? |
| 19:38:17 | quelsaruk | umm |
| 19:38:21 | quelsaruk | yes |
| 19:38:22 | quelsaruk | XD |
| 19:38:33 | nuphem | educated guess ;) |
| 19:39:06 | quelsaruk | archos had an utility to repair it, but just worked on AJB6B with a 6 Gb hd |
| 19:39:34 | quelsaruk | so i repaired it by myself |
| 19:39:43 | quelsaruk | but i can't remember how |
| 19:39:55 | nuphem | only 6gb? |
| 19:40:17 | quelsaruk | yes.. i tried with my 30Gb hd and didn't work |
| 19:40:59 | nuphem | oh hey that reminds me |
| 19:41:10 | nuphem | why can't you toggle repeat? |
| 19:41:22 | nuphem | i like when my playlists end |
| 19:41:34 | quelsaruk | have you ever disconnected usb cable before umounting the drive?? |
| 19:41:34 | Zagor | well, we just haven't fixed that yet |
| 19:42:06 | nuphem | oh ok |
| 19:42:25 | nuphem | yeah sometimes it just slips my mind, all that unmounting stuff |
| 19:42:34 | quelsaruk | that's why you have this problem |
| 19:42:35 | quelsaruk | XD |
| 19:43:25 | nuphem | what has changed since v. 1.2 era that doesn't let recent versions cope with this problem |
| 19:43:28 | Zagor | quelsaruk: what does "XD" mean? |
| 19:43:35 | Zagor | a smiley? |
| 19:43:38 | quelsaruk | yes |
| 19:43:43 | Zagor | ok |
| 19:44:09 | quelsaruk | is like :D but when you have your eyes closed... they seem to be a x |
| 19:44:25 | quelsaruk | (is quite common in spain, sorry) |
| 19:46:02 | Zagor | nuphem: have you tried 1.2 now and verified it works? |
| 19:46:15 | nuphem | oh yeah it always worked |
| 19:46:32 | Zagor | when did you last run it? |
| 19:47:07 | nuphem | just now |
| 19:47:25 | Zagor | ok |
| 19:48:55 | Zagor | uhhh, have an idea... |
| 19:49:04 | Zagor | but I would really like to see your partition table |
| 19:49:19 | Zagor | 1.2 searched for valid FAT32 partitions, and only mounted those |
| 19:49:21 | | Join fulama [0] (ss@Mix-Pointe-a-Pitre-102-4-117.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:49:39 | Zagor | 1.3 tries to mount each partition in sequence, and stops when it succeeds mounting one |
| 19:49:42 | | Nick fulama is now known as Dexter (ss@Mix-Pointe-a-Pitre-102-4-117.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:50:23 | Zagor | so if you have one bogus fat partition first, it will be mounted by 1.3 instead of the proper later partition |
| 19:50:30 | Dexter | hello |
| 19:50:33 | Zagor | hi Dexter |
| 19:50:38 | nuphem | hi dexter |
| 19:50:38 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 19:50:42 | Dexter | who speak french ??? |
| 19:51:00 | quelsaruk | alkorr.. i suppose |
| 19:52:12 | nuphem | well i can guess where that bogus one came about |
| 19:52:36 | quelsaruk | Zagor: just one question, can you make rockbox to stop playing after the last song of a directory is played? |
| 19:52:44 | Zagor | quelsaruk: currently not |
| 19:53:20 | Zagor | nuphem: we did it like this because so many archoses have wrong partition type and thus rockbox refused to mount them |
| 19:53:28 | quelsaruk | i know currently not... but as you are re-writing wps, maybe you would like to change that "playing" option :) |
| 19:53:51 | Zagor | quelsaruk: it's a bit more than just the wps i'm afraid :) |
| 19:54:08 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 19:55:38 | quelsaruk | Zagor one question about programing, if you don't mind |
| 19:55:43 | Zagor | sure |
| 19:55:53 | nuphem | well i'll try to get my hands on partition magic and then try and repartition |
| 19:56:10 | nuphem | i'll report back maybe tomorrow |
| 19:57:11 | nuphem | until then, goodbye all |
| 19:57:26 | Zagor | bye nuphem |
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| 20:06:27 | | Join bmidy [0] (bmidy@AMetz-101-1-1-76.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:06:34 | bmidy | ls |
| 20:06:45 | bmidy | hi all |
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| 20:09:45 | manitee | hi folks |
| 20:09:48 | manitee | anyone here? |
| 20:11:42 | | Part Dexter |
| 20:12:02 | alkorr | humm... who dares to awake me !!! |
| 20:13:42 | Zagor | hehe |
| 20:13:45 | Zagor | manitee: sure, we're here |
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| 20:15:32 | manitee | hi |
| 20:15:44 | manitee | i was wondering about the customizable WPS coming in 1.4 |
| 20:15:56 | manitee | what kind of features are you intending to put in? |
| 20:16:23 | Zagor | just simple customization. you choose which line shows which info. |
| 20:16:32 | Zagor | and which line scrolls |
| 20:16:43 | bmidy | hi allm i m back from workm so whats new about the scrollbar in the file directory? |
| 20:16:59 | Zagor | bmidy: new? |
| 20:17:18 | manitee | i dont suppose there is a way to put more than 2 lines of text on the studio 20 screen is there. |
| 20:17:26 | Zagor | manitee: no |
| 20:17:53 | manitee | dang. |
| 20:18:13 | manitee | the smallish display is really my only complaint about the unit |
| 20:18:54 | bmidy | sorry Zagor i mean is it in the cvs ? and does it works ? |
| 20:19:02 | Zagor | bmidy: it's not in cvs yet |
| 20:19:36 | Hes | Good evening. |
| 20:20:11 | Hes | Did a couple of good test drives with the stock firmware this evening, it didn't skip at all. |
| 20:20:17 | bmidy | ww |
| 20:20:31 | Hes | Will try out the current CVS code with the last ata fixes during the weekend. |
| 20:20:36 | Zagor | Hes: ok |
| 20:20:46 | manitee | hes: i was having the issue to, but 1.3 seemed to fix it |
| 20:20:54 | Ctcp | Version on #rockbox from bmidy!bmidy@AMetz-101-1-1-76.abo.wanadoo.fr |
| 20:21:24 | bmidy | clear |
| 20:21:38 | Hes | manitee: it didn't for me |
| 20:21:44 | Hes | mine is different and really bad |
| 20:22:32 | manitee | hes: huh |
| 20:25:46 | manitee | ok all im out - talk to you tomorrow |
| 20:25:48 | * | manitee waves |
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| 20:34:13 | dwihno | that "rap" caca? |
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| 20:52:44 | * | merwin is getting pissed off at gcc :) |
| 20:53:46 | merwin | I am the keeper of the Schwartz |
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| 21:01:33 | hardepe | May the Schwartz be with you |
| 21:03:47 | merwin | i see your schwartz is as big as mine! |
| 21:11:08 | merwin | how do you compile the source with vc |
| 21:11:26 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:13:05 | alkorr | which source ? which vc ? |
| 21:14:01 | merwin | the recorder source, vc6 |
| 21:14:05 | merwin | recorder sim i mean |
| 21:14:49 | alkorr | oh well it seems there is very few people who compiled for vc6, since I found out the makefile for vc6 is wrong |
| 21:15:16 | merwin | how would i go about compiling the vc6 makefile? |
| 21:15:45 | alkorr | well i think you should create a new project and add files |
| 21:16:42 | merwin | i dunno anything about vc |
| 21:16:43 | merwin | heh |
| 21:16:51 | alkorr | arf ! |
| 21:17:02 | alkorr | you're definately stuck :/ |
| 21:17:30 | alkorr | i've no vc6 and i intend to install vc7 sometime |
| 21:17:34 | merwin | i just can't compile the sim, no matter what i try |
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| 21:17:38 | merwin | with anything |
| 21:17:51 | alkorr | get the binary :/ |
| 21:17:58 | merwin | i need it for testing my patches |
| 21:18:08 | hardepe | nmake -f Makefile.vc6 |
| 21:18:12 | hardepe | that should work |
| 21:18:38 | merwin | what path do i need to have in vc6? |
| 21:18:39 | alkorr | i tried it, tell me if it works because it never worked for me |
| 21:21:10 | hardepe | merwin: i've only compiled for command line, haven't tried from within the vc6 ide |
| 21:21:16 | hardepe | s/for/from |
| 21:24:03 | merwin | hardepe: i need the path that i need to include though |
| 21:24:09 | merwin | path= |
| 21:27:25 | Hes | Hah. With proportional fonts, the scroll speed indicator in scroll speed setting is not long enough to start scrolling 8-) |
| 21:27:26 | hardepe | merwin: hmmm, i just tried it and didn't have to specify an include path |
| 21:27:28 | Hes | let me fix that 8-) |
| 21:28:41 | merwin | hardepe: type path and tell me if there's any vc in the path? |
| 21:29:27 | hardepe | merwin: oh, that's the path you were referring to... −−hold |
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| 21:29:47 | merwin | heya echs |
| 21:29:50 | ecHs | hey merwin |
| 21:30:11 | ecHs | i just realized i got a player(new) :) |
| 21:30:15 | merwin | heh |
| 21:30:40 | ecHs | loadable fonts? :) |
| 21:30:44 | merwin | I think i need to reboot |
| 21:30:47 | hardepe | merwin: take a look at VC98\bin\vcvars32.bat. That sets all the environment variables/paths you need |
| 21:30:52 | merwin | ecHs: no loadable fonts for player |
| 21:31:15 | ecHs | so whats the advantage of the player(new)? |
| 21:31:22 | merwin | ecHs: just a different lcd |
| 21:31:27 | merwin | no real difference |
| 21:32:31 | ecHs | if $(overflow) == true; do until $(0); buy(archos_recorder); |
| 21:32:33 | merwin | hardepe: worked... the long rectangle screen is the recorder, right? |
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| 21:33:20 | elinenbe | hello |
| 21:33:26 | ecHs | hi there |
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| 21:33:48 | merwin | hey elinenbe |
| 21:33:54 | elinenbe | hey there. |
| 21:34:03 | elinenbe | who did the scrollbar patch? |
| 21:35:17 | elinenbe | I have been using proportional fonts and loadable fonts and there a a bunch of bugs. |
| 21:35:37 | elinenbe | first off, some places should NOT use loadble fonts even if they are loaded. |
| 21:35:50 | merwin | yeah |
| 21:36:01 | elinenbe | such as the games, some of the menus (clock setting menu, etc) |
| 21:36:21 | elinenbe | these should just use the default font. |
| 21:37:22 | merwin | hardepe: how do i specify for it to build the recorder? |
| 21:38:51 | elinenbe | huh? |
| 21:43:40 | * | merwin built the recorder sim! woo! |
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| 22:02:24 | alkorr | edx: are you sure about the makefile for vc6 ? |
| 22:02:33 | alkorr | i did tried it without success |
| 22:02:44 | Hes | Arrgh. The current CVS firmware still skips at least with USE_SLEEP |
| 22:04:36 | Zagor | :( |
| 22:05:46 | Hes | The wait for rdy change didn't fix that |
| 22:05:55 | Hes | I'll try with USE_STANDBY next |
| 22:06:09 | edx | alkorr: what waws your problem? |
| 22:06:37 | Hes | At least the stock archos firmware doesn't skip with this new disk so it can't be physically bad |
| 22:06:47 | Hes | just trips on our firmware at times |
| 22:06:49 | alkorr | well i cannot compile uisim with vc6 because the vc6 makefile doesn't seem to be correct |
| 22:07:37 | Zagor | Hes: we should add read retry soon to see if that's the problem |
| 22:08:16 | alkorr | i notice there is no error notification in ata.c |
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| 22:08:33 | Hadaka | mmh |
| 22:08:49 | datazone-work | just mins away from having my 30GB drive in my player :) |
| 22:09:57 | edx | alkor: the vc6 makefile doesn ot work indeed.. i think |
| 22:10:00 | edx | wait.. |
| 22:10:26 | edx | using the nmake tool: |
| 22:10:27 | edx | http://codeforce.dyn.ee/rockbox/autocvs/ |
| 22:10:29 | edx | it compiles |
| 22:10:35 | edx | tkae the normal makefile |
| 22:10:51 | edx | or no.. i think i take the vc6 makefile, too |
| 22:11:03 | edx | what is the error that you are getting? |
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| 22:31:48 | Zagor | oh we all love, the wibbely wobbely net |
| 22:31:54 | Zagor | sing with me! |
| 22:35:16 | adi|home | "oh we all love, the wibbely wobbely net" |
| 22:35:18 | adi|home | hows that? |
| 22:35:21 | adi|home | was i off key? |
| 22:36:06 | Zagor | excellent. i'll sell recordings. |
| 22:37:50 | Silly_Fly | would you give them free to rockbox users? |
| 22:39:04 | Zagor | Sure, as soon as I recoup the $5000 fee i owe Thomson Multimedia |
| 22:40:16 | adi|home | lol |
| 22:46:10 | Silly_Fly | would you implement the vertical scroll bar? this is one feature I actually miss from the archos firmware....... |
| 22:46:34 | Zagor | yes we'll have it soon |
| 22:47:18 | Silly_Fly | 10x. while your'e at it - maybe use F2 to toggle it on/off , as it's not used for anything else right now.....? |
| 22:48:19 | Zagor | hehe. everyone has wishes for f2. luckily, so do I. and it's a bit more than just hooking it to a single function :) |
| 22:48:54 | Zagor | Holding F3 will get you to a View Config screen, toggling status bar, scroll bar, menu help strings etc. |
| 22:49:12 | Zagor | Holding F2 will get you to a Play Config screen, toggling repeat, shuffle etc. |
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| 22:51:22 | Zagor | now if I could just get those extra 18 hours/day I ordered... |
| 22:51:37 | Silly_Fly | can rockbox charge the batteries when the unit is off? 'cause when I'm not turning mine on, and I plug the charger, I get the archos charging screen...... |
| 22:51:52 | Zagor | no, we can't |
| 22:52:05 | Silly_Fly | yeah, I ordered 12 more hours from those basterds ages ago :) |
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| 23:02:41 | m5jaz | list |
| 23:03:12 | Silly_Fly | list? |
| 23:03:50 | m5jaz | sorry, don't mind me... trying to type "/list" :) |
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| 23:05:11 | merwin | yoyo |
| 23:07:44 | Zagor | hi merwin |
| 23:08:50 | Zagor | can players not see when the charger is attached? |
| 23:08:59 | Zagor | i think they can? |
| 23:09:13 | pimlottc | they can in archos |
| 23:09:22 | pimlottc | the battery charing led animates |
| 23:09:27 | Zagor | precisely |
| 23:09:28 | pimlottc | er lcd icon |
| 23:09:39 | pimlottc | (I mean in the archos firmware) |
| 23:09:46 | Zagor | we don't show that, for some reason |
| 23:09:53 | Zagor | *fixing* |
| 23:10:05 | pimlottc | yeah I noticed that |
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| 23:27:25 | merwin | Zagor: i'm stumped on why the custom wps isn't scrolling the custom string.. it's scrolling all of the other wps types though (they're all being fed through the custom wps also) |
| 23:27:35 | merwin | Zagor: on the bright side, i got the win23 sim to compile with vc6 |
| 23:27:38 | merwin | so i can test it |
| 23:27:45 | Zagor | nice! |
| 23:27:50 | Zagor | maybe you could document it? |
| 23:28:15 | merwin | Zagor: vc6 was easy... it's like 2 commands |
| 23:29:09 | merwin | Zagor: the weird part of the scrolling is that it's being fed through the same function to start the scrolling. I'm going nuts trying to figure this out :) It scrolls one letter, then goes back to not scrolling. |
| 23:32:37 | Zagor | hum, strange |
| 23:32:55 | merwin | yeah :) I've got a couple of ideas left |
| 23:33:02 | Zagor | ooh i love cleaning code! |
| 23:33:21 | Zagor | that fresh smell of clean slates. exhilirating! |
| 23:33:41 | merwin | heh... once i get that resolved, i can work on making it only update the line with the time on it |
| 23:34:11 | merwin | clean slates |
| 23:34:11 | merwin | ? |
| 23:34:17 | Zagor | merwin: you'd better wait. i'm ripping up the carpet :) |
| 23:34:46 | merwin | Zagor: ripping up the carpet? |
| 23:35:05 | Zagor | a metaphor |
| 23:35:16 | merwin | Zagor: yes, what are you doing though? |
| 23:35:19 | Zagor | redoing a lot of things |
| 23:35:31 | Zagor | wps & status bar at the moment |
| 23:35:53 | merwin | Zagor: are you modifying my code also? because i changed how the wps works too :) |
| 23:36:53 | Zagor | display_custom_wps() is unchanged. it's wps_show() that is now split into four or five functions |
| 23:37:13 | Zagor | getting rid of all the state handling |
| 23:37:16 | merwin | OK... i use a refresh_wps() also |
| 23:37:33 | merwin | ahh, it will be nice to have a clean wps |
| 23:37:36 | Zagor | it'll be a nice merge then ;) |
| 23:37:57 | Zagor | can you build a rec simulator now? |
| 23:38:03 | merwin | yup |
| 23:38:15 | Zagor | goodie |
| 23:38:19 | merwin | the sim doesn't load my wps.config file though |
| 23:38:29 | merwin | so i had to do an #ifdef SIMULATOR and fake one |
| 23:38:51 | Zagor | it should load the file |
| 23:39:10 | Zagor | oh, maybe the winsim doesn't like using forward-slashes? |
| 23:39:18 | merwin | the win32 sim is a little screwed.. it doesn't use the archos folder either |
| 23:39:26 | merwin | it uses the root folder |
| 23:39:27 | Zagor | !? that's bad |
| 23:39:38 | merwin | i brought that up a LONG time ago :) |
| 23:40:09 | Zagor | yeah, but you windows types need to keep the winsim up to date. I can't, I don't have windows. |
| 23:40:57 | merwin | i dont' know how any of the sim stuff works. Who built it in the first place? |
| 23:41:03 | Zagor | edx |
| 23:41:32 | merwin | is he around still? |
| 23:43:04 | Zagor | yeah, he pops in sometimes |
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| 23:51:26 | merwin | under 24 hours until the great baseball strike of 2002 |
| 23:51:46 | Zagor | huh? |
| 23:52:22 | merwin | all of the baseball players in the states are going on strike because they aren't getting paid enough |
| 23:52:29 | merwin | only in the multi-millions :) |
| 23:52:55 | Zagor | oooh, poor souls |
| 23:53:02 | merwin | yeah... heh |
| 23:53:18 | merwin | it'll kill baseball in the states for a very long time though. |
| 23:53:53 | Zagor | i'm so devastated. honestly... |
| 23:53:58 | Zagor | ;) |
| 23:54:23 | Zagor | i'm a euro bum, I've never cared about baseball :) |
| 23:54:42 | merwin | it's the top story in the news :) That and we're sending Lance Bass from 'N Sync into space. Yay! |
| 23:56:58 | merwin | I hope the russians keep him up there with them. |
| 23:57:26 | Zagor | "I'm sorry Lance. I'm afraid I can't let you do that..." |
| 23:57:31 | merwin | haha |
| 23:57:51 | merwin | oh my god: |
| 23:57:51 | merwin | You have 75 unread messages: |
| 23:57:51 | merwin | Inbox (2), Bulk (8), Archos Rockbox (65) |
| 23:58:00 | Zagor | hehe |
| 23:58:04 | merwin | that's what happens when i leave my e-mail for 10 hours |
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