| 00:10:09 | dwihno | Zagor: U there? |
| 00:10:14 | dwihno | hmm |
| 00:10:15 | Zagor | yup |
| 00:10:18 | dwihno | obviousley not |
| 00:10:21 | dwihno | :O |
| 00:10:22 | dwihno | :) |
| 00:10:48 | dwihno | I was strolling around the wps-display.c and pondered about line 581 |
| 00:11:21 | Zagor | yup, should be removed |
| 00:11:49 | dwihno | removing the line will cause the last line to be displayed twice |
| 00:11:51 | Zagor | the slider should be a tag too |
| 00:11:56 | dwihno | indeed |
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| 00:12:05 | Zagor | twice? that's odd |
| 00:12:28 | dwihno | I'll check again, just to make sure. |
| 00:13:15 | | Join RipnetUK [0] (~george@ripnet.fsnet.co.uk) |
| 00:13:48 | RipnetUK | hi - did someone say there exists a program which will lookup (complete albums) of mp3s on freedb/cddb and sort out the ID3's? |
| 00:13:51 | dwihno | Commenting the line will cause the last line to be displayed twice |
| 00:14:10 | dwihno | Zagor: format_display(buf, sizeof(buf), id3, "", &flags); |
| 00:14:19 | dwihno | that will prevent the "double line" effect |
| 00:15:03 | Zagor | RipnetUK: i have only used freedb when ripping, i haven't seen a program that fixes it afterwards |
| 00:15:23 | dwihno | Playlist loading is FAST AS BLOODY LIGHTNING btw! :) |
| 00:15:29 | RipnetUK | actually, sorry, should have Google'd - for you information, its called psysicmp3 |
| 00:15:34 | RipnetUK | about to test it :) |
| 00:15:44 | Zagor | dwihno: you need to remove line 580 too. and the four lines above that. |
| 00:16:07 | RipnetUK | dwihno - yeah, playlist is SOOOOO fast, it makes you wonder if Archos had a deliberate delay loop in their implementation... i thought it was fast before the dram burst mode was put on :) |
| 00:16:11 | Zagor | dwihno: yeah, we load around 2500 files/sec :-) |
| 00:16:22 | dwihno | :) |
| 00:16:30 | dwihno | IT'S SO DAMN FAST! |
| 00:16:39 | dwihno | And I thought the 1000 files/sec was fast ;D |
| 00:16:45 | Zagor | yeah |
| 00:16:49 | * | dwihno shivers with anticipation |
| 00:17:48 | dwihno | Zagor: is there something preventing the Time: blabla/blabla fix atm btw? |
| 00:18:11 | dwihno | with rolo, firmware testing has become 10 times faster |
| 00:19:28 | Zagor | preventing? nope |
| 00:19:54 | dwihno | shall I mail you the patch? :) |
| 00:20:22 | Zagor | sure |
| 00:22:00 | RipnetUK | that psychicMP3 looks good... |
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| 00:30:12 | dwihno | Zagor: boink, you got mail |
| 00:30:20 | Zagor | goodie |
| 00:30:52 | * | adi|home sniffles |
| 00:31:00 | adi|home | im taking you off my christmas card list Zagor |
| 00:31:07 | Zagor | lol |
| 00:31:11 | dwihno | :-) |
| 00:31:34 | * | adi|home glues boxes back into the source tree |
| 00:32:00 | * | adi|home smirks |
| 00:32:32 | Zagor | dwihno: can you run diff again, with a -b parameter this time? your diff showed every line as modified... |
| 00:32:43 | dwihno | Zagor: ooops :) |
| 00:32:46 | dwihno | Me bad. |
| 00:32:48 | Zagor | i.e. "diff -ub" |
| 00:33:24 | dwihno | I said me bad .) |
| 00:33:47 | * | Zagor takes a deep breath and loads fat32.c |
| 00:34:37 | dwihno | Zagor: file writing, aye? |
| 00:34:40 | dwihno | Zagor: boink |
| 00:34:42 | Zagor | yep |
| 00:35:01 | * | dwihno makes sure the oxygen tube is operational |
| 00:35:27 | Zagor | pray for your hard drives... :-) |
| 00:35:59 | dwihno | heh |
| 00:36:22 | dwihno | make it default and you'll pretty soon see how well it works ;) |
| 00:37:20 | dwihno | 1000+ sourceforge reports of broken harddrives :) |
| 00:37:28 | Zagor | hehe |
| 00:37:32 | dwihno | How many rockbox users do you estimate? |
| 00:37:56 | * | dwihno loves the bleeding edge builds |
| 00:38:39 | Zagor | oh, a couple hundred i'd think |
| 00:39:14 | dwihno | I've been using it ever since playback was possible on the recorder |
| 00:40:00 | dwihno | The "deleted folders reappearance" problem puzzled me for quite a while though |
| 00:40:24 | Zagor | yeah |
| 00:41:10 | adi|home | dwihno: whats that? |
| 00:41:33 | dwihno | adi: it was something fishy causing folders to appear with faulty names... |
| 00:41:51 | dwihno | I'm expecting the new DRAM chips within the next week, my soldering iron |
| 00:41:51 | dwihno | is hot and waiting for the neat job of replacing the 2MB with the 8MB RAM |
| 00:41:51 | dwihno | - then I'll finally join the software team to enable support for the |
| 00:41:51 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno |
| 00:41:51 | dwihno | larger memory. |
| 00:41:53 | dwihno | Whoa :) |
| 00:42:06 | dwihno | 8 mb ram :)~ |
| 00:42:59 | dwihno | Zagor: since you've seen the insides of the archos, is it dangerous to switch RAM module? |
| 00:43:07 | Zagor | it will be interesting to see if he succeeds. that would be quite a hack |
| 00:43:28 | dwihno | yeah |
| 00:43:30 | Zagor | dwihno: not more dangerous than replacing any other surface-mounted chip... :-) |
| 00:43:34 | dwihno | Hehe :) |
| 00:43:54 | Zagor | quite tricky. nothing like swapping ROM on the old C64 :-) |
| 00:43:57 | dwihno | Too bad he didn't mention the price he paid for the chip |
| 00:44:34 | Zagor | i think he will document it very well if it works out |
| 00:45:19 | dwihno | ya |
| 00:45:27 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:45:27 | * | dwihno crosses his fingers |
| 00:45:45 | dwihno | 60 gb disk swap is also a neat hack :) |
| 00:45:52 | dwihno | Albeit a bit much perhaps |
| 00:45:55 | dwihno | "Nothing is too much" |
| 00:45:56 | dwihno | I agree |
| 00:46:09 | dwihno | but how about power usage with the larger capacity drives? |
| 00:46:23 | Zagor | the 60gig uses a bit more power than the 40 gig |
| 00:46:41 | Zagor | i'm not sure why,though, because the mass is the same |
| 00:47:22 | Zagor | see info on toshiba's site |
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| 00:48:37 | * | dwihno will get his soldering iron and perform a 2" full color TFT upgrade tomorrow ;D |
| 00:49:14 | Zagor | hehe |
| 00:50:06 | elinenbe | Zagor: how is the file writing coming? |
| 00:50:37 | Zagor | there's plenty of work left. i've barely started. |
| 00:50:47 | dwihno | Zagor: I'd like to write a couple of lines regarding fixing scratched displays in the hardware section, is that OK? |
| 00:50:57 | Zagor | dwihno: sure |
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| 01:12:51 | dwihno | boink |
| 01:17:12 | Zagor | i expanded a bit on your patch, dwihno. hope you don't mind. ;) |
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| 01:31:36 | elinenbe | Zagor: make it so you can have or not have the time/total time line :) |
| 01:31:45 | elinenbe | Zagor: the progrss bar is now optional? |
| 01:31:55 | Zagor | yup |
| 01:32:33 | elinenbe | is the time/total time line optional? |
| 01:32:43 | Zagor | yes |
| 01:36:16 | dwihno | Zagor: no minds at all ;-) |
| 01:36:50 | dwihno | how many of the RTC bytes are currently used? |
| 01:38:00 | Zagor | 26 |
| 01:38:12 | elinenbe | that is great. |
| 01:38:32 | elinenbe | now when you show the "title bar" what line gets erased if you have an 8 line WPS? |
| 01:39:02 | elinenbe | on the recorder? |
| 01:39:25 | Zagor | bottom line, still |
| 01:39:36 | elinenbe | can you have an 8 line WPS? |
| 01:39:40 | Zagor | yes |
| 01:39:51 | Zagor | 10 lines, if you have a small font |
| 01:39:51 | elinenbe | oh.. that is a GREAT feature |
| 01:39:56 | elinenbe | the custom wps is very nice/ |
| 01:40:02 | Zagor | not that font loading works... ;) |
| 01:40:22 | elinenbe | not for me. |
| 01:40:32 | elinenbe | font loading does not work on my recorder. |
| 01:40:38 | dwihno | of course it works :) |
| 01:40:43 | dwihno | It only has a few glitches :) |
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| 01:41:07 | GomGom | hello |
| 01:41:20 | Zagor | hi |
| 01:41:58 | dwihno | yum |
| 01:41:58 | GomGom | is there a known bug in yesterday's snaphot when tracks are just skipped ? |
| 01:42:23 | GomGom | i'm listenning to a track and it justgo to next track |
| 01:42:25 | Zagor | we are chasing a bug where tracks sometimes skip to the next in the middle |
| 01:42:31 | GomGom | yes |
| 01:42:33 | GomGom | that's it |
| 01:42:40 | Zagor | does it happen a lot? |
| 01:42:41 | GomGom | ok, so you already know about this bug |
| 01:42:47 | elinenbe | I have had that bug quite a bit. |
| 01:42:47 | GomGom | not so ofen |
| 01:42:58 | elinenbe | not that often, but often enough. |
| 01:43:02 | GomGom | 3 times / album in general |
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| 01:43:05 | elinenb|bar | later. |
| 01:43:05 | Zagor | it seems to affect different people to variying degrees |
| 01:43:12 | Zagor | bye elinenb|bar |
| 01:43:33 | GomGom | bye elinenb|bar |
| 01:44:21 | GomGom | i had not this problem in 20020828 snapshot |
| 01:44:32 | GomGom | i don't think this info is so useful |
| 01:45:07 | elinenb|bar | back for one last thing. |
| 01:45:11 | Zagor | yes, it seems to have been introduced when we changed the disk sleeping code |
| 01:45:25 | GomGom | the spin down time perhaps |
| 01:45:26 | elinenb|bar | Zagor: while you are working on wps code there is a little bug in it (cosmetic) |
| 01:45:35 | Zagor | ok? |
| 01:45:41 | elinenb|bar | Zagor: if yo have a song that goes into the hundreds of minutes... |
| 01:45:49 | Zagor | ah, right |
| 01:45:56 | elinenb|bar | the time line looks like 99:99/99:99 |
| 01:46:06 | elinenb|bar | and then you rewind to where the time is shorter. |
| 01:46:19 | elinenb|bar | 5:55/5:55 |
| 01:46:39 | elinenb|bar | the 9's will still be on the screen. (like the last 9 of the line) |
| 01:46:42 | elinenb|bar | you see what I mean. |
| 01:46:46 | Zagor | yeah, i know |
| 01:46:54 | elinenb|bar | whitespace has to be written after the time. |
| 01:46:58 | elinenb|bar | that is all. |
| 01:46:58 | elinenb|bar | later. |
| 01:47:28 | Zagor | GomGom: i have a test for you |
| 01:48:23 | dwihno | A thing I also noticed lately... key-repeat is a lot faster now - NICE :) |
| 01:48:38 | GomGom | Zagor: yes sure |
| 01:49:18 | Zagor | GomGom: you had a recorder, right? |
| 01:49:30 | GomGom | nope jukebox 6000 |
| 01:49:40 | Zagor | oh, ok |
| 01:50:08 | Zagor | old or new? |
| 01:50:22 | GomGom | think it's new it has foirmware 5.02 |
| 01:50:54 | Zagor | doesn't dcc work for you? |
| 01:51:26 | GomGom | it works, i've just to explicitly start it :) |
| 01:51:35 | Zagor | ok :-) |
| 01:51:46 | GomGom | the problem is the bug is random |
| 01:51:55 | Zagor | yeah, i know |
| 01:51:55 | GomGom | it appears at different placesin the same song |
| 01:52:14 | Zagor | just run it for a while and see it it seems to happen less |
| 01:52:15 | GomGom | anyway, i'll test your firmware |
| 01:52:38 | dwihno | Zagor: Do I have to add %pb to get a progress bar at the bottom now? |
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| 01:52:49 | Zagor | dwihno: yes, if you use a custom .wps file |
| 01:52:52 | dwihno | :D |
| 01:52:54 | dwihno | Of course I do |
| 01:53:02 | dwihno | doesn't everybody? |
| 01:53:05 | dwihno | How does yours look? |
| 01:53:11 | Zagor | I don't, except for testing... :-) |
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| 01:53:15 | dwihno | :O |
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| 01:53:30 | Zagor | i'm too busy coding, no time to use it ;-) |
| 01:53:38 | dwihno | I'll hand you mine ;D |
| 01:53:47 | dwihno | with really nice archos-look-a-like features ;D |
| 01:53:50 | GomGom | hehe, you ship untested code ? ;-) |
| 01:54:01 | Zagor | we should probably put up a few example files on the web page |
| 01:54:28 | Zagor | GomGom: nah, I test it but haven't really customized an optimal one for myself yet |
| 01:55:12 | GomGom | strane your uploaded firmware does not load at startup |
| 01:55:19 | GomGom | it ouput trash on screen |
| 01:55:35 | Zagor | oy! |
| 01:55:55 | Zagor | let me make you a clean new one |
| 01:56:33 | dwihno | Zagor: there are two %d2 in the CUSTOM_WPS_FORMAT file |
| 01:56:51 | Zagor | oops |
| 01:57:35 | dwihno | the playlist shuffling is made possible by first loading the list and then performing some individual swapping? |
| 01:58:10 | Zagor | we don't really load the file, we just scan it and remember the byte offset of each line |
| 01:58:27 | dwihno | okay |
| 01:58:29 | Zagor | the shuffle swaps around the array of byte offsets |
| 01:58:45 | dwihno | mkay |
| 01:58:56 | dwihno | so an index to keep the %pp normal is out of the question? |
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| 01:59:11 | dwihno | song #1 might be song #340 in the playlist |
| 01:59:13 | dwihno | you catch my drift? |
| 01:59:13 | GomGom | Zagor: now it boots |
| 01:59:28 | Zagor | GomGom: ok, good |
| 01:59:33 | Zagor | dwihno: yes |
| 01:59:54 | dwihno | Zagor: are we being memory conservative or is it just "not added"? |
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| 02:00:00 | Zagor | we have no info about which "actual" song it is. there was a mail about this a while ago |
| 02:00:15 | dwihno | mkay |
| 02:00:21 | dwihno | I've been quite busy to read all mail :/ |
| 02:00:26 | dwihno | I read the most interesting topics |
| 02:00:33 | dwihno | such as the 8 mb buffer stuff :)¨¨¨ |
| 02:01:32 | dwihno | haha... it looks pretty silly with multiple progress bars :) |
| 02:01:44 | GomGom | Zagor: hmm, have you any news about a possible "tremor" imlementation ? is the hardware flashable to support (one day) vorbis ? |
| 02:02:15 | Zagor | GomGom: no. tremor requires about 100K just for lookup tables. we have max 4K for code *and* data... |
| 02:02:46 | GomGom | ok... :( |
| 02:02:46 | Zagor | the archos will never support ogg. that's the grim reality. |
| 02:03:07 | GomGom | well mp3 will be nice for next 2 years |
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| 02:03:20 | GomGom | then i'll buy a brand new ogg/vorbis jukebox ;) |
| 02:04:20 | Zagor | yeah. let's hope someone makes one soon. perhaps the multimedia can be persuaded to play ogg. i haven't looked much at it yet. |
| 02:05:37 | GomGom | someone will have to make the first step into mass usage ogg/vorbis, it's free (beer and speech)... |
| 02:05:52 | GomGom | and sounds better |
| 02:06:00 | Zagor | yup |
| 02:07:51 | dwihno | damn the archos firmware feels sucky! |
| 02:07:57 | dwihno | I just tested it though rolo |
| 02:08:04 | Zagor | hehe |
| 02:09:09 | dwihno | I never knew Rockbox would rock this much when I got my Archos |
| 02:09:38 | dwihno | A rather pleasing thought |
| 02:09:53 | dwihno | and resume |
| 02:09:54 | dwihno | :) |
| 02:09:57 | dwihno | and propfonts |
| 02:10:03 | dwihno | and custom wps |
| 02:10:06 | dwihno | and goodies |
| 02:10:08 | dwihno | and games |
| 02:10:13 | dwihno | It simply rocks! :D |
| 02:10:16 | dwihno | Darn |
| 02:10:18 | dwihno | Zagor: go to bed |
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| 02:10:21 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno|gone |
| 02:10:32 | dwihno|gone | I'm gonna make a cup of tea before I hit the hay. |
| 02:11:02 | Zagor | i'm off soon too |
| 02:21:01 | GomGom | Zagor: ten minutes without jump |
| 02:21:24 | Zagor | ok |
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| 02:34:35 | adi|home | Zagor.. have you run the snow for a while? |
| 02:34:40 | adi|home | mine just locked up |
| 02:34:46 | Zagor | whoa! |
| 02:34:58 | Zagor | no, i didn't test for very long. half a minute maybe |
| 02:35:18 | adi|home | im testing again now.. |
| 02:35:36 | adi|home | restarting now |
| 02:35:47 | adi|home | 20:35 by me |
| 02:37:51 | adi|home | yup..Zagor.. run snow |
| 02:37:59 | adi|home | let the flakes hit the bottom |
| 02:38:03 | adi|home | and wait about another minute |
| 02:38:06 | adi|home | it locks up on me |
| 02:38:07 | Zagor | "Our products just aren't engineered for security." −− Microsoft, Sept 5 2002 |
| 02:38:16 | Zagor | testing |
| 02:38:33 | adi|home | i have to reboot to get out |
| 02:41:32 | Zagor | well, i have to hit the sack. we'll look at this tomorrow. |
| 02:41:35 | Zagor | night, all |
| 02:41:49 | GomGom | night too |
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| 03:13:41 | adi|home | hey synthe |
| 03:13:44 | adi|home | thanks for the files |
| 03:13:46 | Synthe | hola |
| 03:13:49 | Synthe | np |
| 03:13:51 | adi|home | i have 2 bids in for the cd's on ebay :) |
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| 04:09:17 | MALOW | hello |
| 04:09:51 | MALOW | Im spanish & I have a JR 6GB |
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| 06:09:14 | pimlottc | heh |
| 06:09:23 | pimlottc | 10GB recorder on amazon gold box |
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| 06:40:28 | merwin | yo |
| 06:55:24 | adi|home | yo |
| 06:55:59 | adi|home | http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/SOMEDAYS.jpg |
| 06:56:28 | adi|home | pimlottc: whats that about a 10G? |
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| 07:01:45 | merwin | adi|home: hahaha |
| 07:08:30 | pimlottc | adi - my first amazon 'gold box' offer was a 10G archos recorder |
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| 07:10:44 | * | merwin needs partition magic or partition manager :P |
| 07:10:47 | merwin | heh |
| 07:15:30 | adi|home | pimlottc: what is a gold box? |
| 07:18:03 | pimlottc | adi - every day on amazon.com they give you 5 'gold box' offers that have extra discounts, but they only last for 60 minutes |
| 07:23:38 | pimlottc | but they choose lots of random things, so most of the time I get offers for tools and hardware |
| 07:27:25 | adi|home | ahh.. how much was the 10Gig? |
| 07:27:31 | adi|home | and how do i find out about these gold boxes |
| 07:34:06 | pimlottc | $215 I believe |
| 07:34:49 | pimlottc | it will show up in the upper right hand corner but it doesn't come up for all people |
| 07:36:15 | adi|home | got ya... |
| 07:40:47 | merwin | 215 isn't a very good price for the 10gb recorder |
| 07:43:41 | * | merwin has the hiccups... |
| 07:43:48 | merwin | i hate those |
| 07:44:55 | pimlottc | yeah, most of the offers are just like 10-20 bucks less than normal |
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| 09:07:23 | merwin|zZzZz | Found a new irc program for windows... bersirc |
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| 09:16:10 | dwihno | Good morning |
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| 09:44:42 | adi|home | morning dwihno |
| 09:44:47 | adi|home | you have a recorder or player?> |
| 09:45:07 | | Join Synthe [0] (Synthe@galt.synthe.net) |
| 09:45:31 | adi|home | hey synthe |
| 09:46:02 | merwin|zZzZz | adi: you're up late |
| 09:46:51 | adi|home | nods |
| 09:46:59 | adi|home | couldn't sleep |
| 09:47:05 | adi|home | and i had to fix the daily build |
| 09:47:09 | dwihno | adi: a recorder! :) |
| 09:47:10 | adi|home | zagor broke it |
| 09:47:13 | adi|home | dwihno.. |
| 09:47:17 | dwihno | he did? what a evil person! |
| 09:47:17 | adi|home | dl the daily build |
| 09:47:19 | adi|home | test snow |
| 09:47:24 | merwin|zZzZz | adi|home: what did he do to it? |
| 09:47:26 | adi|home | see if it locks up your player |
| 09:47:30 | dwihno | I tested the CVS last night and it works |
| 09:47:38 | dwihno | I got a recorder, not a player ;) |
| 09:47:42 | dwihno | but sure, I'll test. |
| 09:47:48 | adi|home | merwin|zZzZz: when he removed boxes and blank, he forgot to fix the sim makefile for x11 |
| 09:47:54 | dwihno | fix a direct download link while I fetch my rockbox |
| 09:47:58 | dwihno | ;) |
| 09:47:59 | merwin|zZzZz | adi|home: ahh... where does it lock up? |
| 09:48:19 | adi|home | dunno.. |
| 09:48:22 | adi|home | when you let snow run |
| 09:48:28 | adi|home | the flakes hit the bottom of the screen |
| 09:48:31 | merwin|zZzZz | adi|home: oh, i've got the player :) |
| 09:48:33 | adi|home | and wait about 45 seconds |
| 09:48:34 | adi|home | and poof |
| 09:48:36 | adi|home | lockup |
| 09:48:39 | adi|home | nods |
| 09:49:54 | merwin|zZzZz | gotta split |
| 09:49:54 | merwin|zZzZz | ttyl |
| 09:49:58 | adi|home | hehe and bounce acts funny in the sim |
| 09:49:59 | adi|home | later |
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| 09:51:22 | dwihno | okay, gotta test it now |
| 09:52:43 | | Nick edx|sleep is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAAE32.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:53:44 | dwihno | Heh, growing accustomed to propfonts, the regular seem utterly huge! :) |
| 09:54:15 | dwihno | edx: Zagor did some changes to the configuration stuff, I think you should take a peek at the makefiles |
| 09:54:34 | dwihno | okay, running snow |
| 09:54:59 | adi|home | what do you mean take a peak at the makefiles? |
| 09:55:32 | dwihno | the defines for the GAMES and SCREENSAVERS has been modified |
| 09:55:50 | adi|home | right |
| 09:56:02 | adi|home | i don't get what your getting at |
| 09:56:05 | edx | dwihno: ok wait a sec |
| 09:56:05 | dwihno | adi: no lock yet, what's supposed to happen? |
| 09:56:14 | dwihno | adi: it's about the makefiles for gnush |
| 09:56:34 | dwihno | adi: still nothing |
| 09:56:49 | adi|home | ahh the gnush makefiles i know nothing about |
| 09:56:55 | adi|home | hmmm.. ill test again on mine |
| 09:58:01 | dwihno | adi: it won't simply crash :) |
| 09:58:12 | dwihno | the snow keeps falling on my head *singing* |
| 09:58:31 | edx | dwohno: the firmware compiles.. testing for the apps makefile |
| 09:59:14 | edx | works, too |
| 09:59:41 | edx | hmm I really have to update the gnush tutorial this weekend |
| 09:59:59 | adi|home | is your snow really faint? |
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| 10:00:06 | dwihno | edx: yeah, it works, then maybe USE_GAMES has been made default and I need to invert the selection? |
| 10:00:22 | dwihno | adi: the snow is snowing :) |
| 10:00:31 | edx | i dont know about the USE_GAMES stuff, yet |
| 10:00:40 | edx | wahts it about? is it that you have to define USE_GAMES? |
| 10:00:46 | edx | to use teh games? |
| 10:00:55 | dwihno | nope, I want to skip it |
| 10:01:07 | dwihno | if I don't define USE_GAMES, it's supposed to skip the games |
| 10:01:09 | dwihno | which it won't |
| 10:01:17 | edx | ahhhh |
| 10:01:18 | adi|home | right.. |
| 10:01:20 | edx | ok |
| 10:01:21 | adi|home | they changed that |
| 10:01:25 | adi|home | look at options.h |
| 10:01:37 | adi|home | #ifndef DISABLE_DEMOS |
| 10:01:37 | dwihno | so it's options.h that needs to be tampered from now on? |
| 10:01:38 | adi|home | #undef USE_DEMOS /* since older Makefiles set the define */ |
| 10:01:38 | adi|home | #define USE_DEMOS |
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| 10:01:38 | adi|home | #endif |
| 10:01:38 | adi|home | #ifndef DISABLE_GAMES |
| 10:01:38 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 10:01:38 | adi|home | #undef USE_GAMES /* since older Makefiles set the define */ |
| 10:01:40 | adi|home | #define USE_GAMES |
| 10:01:42 | adi|home | #endif |
| 10:02:05 | edx | it changed to DISABLE_GAMES? |
| 10:02:14 | edx | do i have to change anything inside the makefile to make it work? |
| 10:03:04 | adi|home | only if you want to disable games |
| 10:03:14 | adi|home | since DISABLE games isn't defined by default |
| 10:03:21 | adi|home | USE_GAMES _gets_ defined |
| 10:03:45 | adi|home | man my snow is faint |
| 10:03:51 | adi|home | but now its not crashing.. i don't get it |
| 10:04:04 | adi|home | oh well.. maybe i had an old version of it |
| 10:04:19 | edx | ok |
| 10:04:39 | edx | well i'll add a comment to the makefile where to change that DISABLE_GAMES stuff |
| 10:04:53 | adi|home | good idea |
| 10:06:22 | adi|home | didn't someone hack out a double size font for the player? |
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| 10:08:11 | * | dwihno gets to work on the prop font |
| 10:08:57 | edx | hmm ok.. now you can disable the games by calling |
| 10:08:59 | adi|home | im wondering if sound settings and general settings should be combined |
| 10:09:03 | edx | make -f win32.mak DISABLE_GAMES=1 |
| 10:09:06 | adi|home | right |
| 10:09:29 | adi|home | it don't seem to make sense to me to have sound settings and general settings |
| 10:10:59 | adi|home | Settings |
| 10:10:59 | adi|home | - Sound |
| 10:10:59 | adi|home | - Vol |
| 10:10:59 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 10:10:59 | adi|home | - Bass |
| 10:10:59 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 10:10:59 | adi|home | ... |
| 10:11:01 | adi|home | - Playback |
| 10:11:03 | adi|home | - File View |
| 10:11:05 | adi|home | - Display |
| 10:11:07 | adi|home | - System |
| 10:11:09 | adi|home | would seem to make more sense |
| 10:11:11 | adi|home | wouldn't you think? |
| 10:21:00 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 10:21:19 | adi|home | dwihno: feel like giving opinion on a build? |
| 10:22:03 | edx | ... |
| 10:22:17 | edx | im having trouble with the makefile syntax.. :/ |
| 10:22:30 | edx | how can i compare whether a defined variable is set to a specific value? |
| 10:24:22 | adi|home | ifeq (1,DEFINE_HERE) |
| 10:24:23 | adi|home | try that |
| 10:24:31 | adi|home | or whatever your value |
| 10:24:38 | adi|home | ifeq (compare,compare) |
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| 10:24:56 | adi|home | anyone with a recorder? |
| 10:25:24 | dwihno | heh |
| 10:25:26 | dwihno | that would be me ;) |
| 10:25:29 | dwihno | you have a player? |
| 10:27:08 | adi|home | nope.. recorder |
| 10:27:12 | adi|home | wanna test a build for me.. |
| 10:27:14 | adi|home | need an opinion |
| 10:27:25 | dwihno | on what? :) |
| 10:27:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 10:27:30 | adi|home | recorder |
| 10:27:39 | adi|home | on menus |
| 10:27:46 | adi|home | i merged sound/general settings |
| 10:27:51 | adi|home | i think it makes more sense now.. |
| 10:27:54 | adi|home | want another opinion |
| 10:28:25 | dwihno | is the sound menu inside the general settings menu now? |
| 10:29:06 | dwihno | In that case, I don't like it :) |
| 10:29:10 | dwihno | I like it the way it is now :) |
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| 10:29:44 | dwihno | I got a pretty cool idea |
| 10:30:14 | dwihno | How about having some kind of indicator on the progress bar also showing how much is buffered? :) |
| 10:30:55 | dwihno | like this: | [ ] : | |
| 10:30:59 | dwihno | you catch my drift? |
| 10:31:09 | adi|home | why don't you like the idea of sound and general being in the same menu? |
| 10:31:23 | adi|home | sound fits more as a submenu of 'Settings' |
| 10:31:31 | dwihno | well, I prefer the sound menu being a separate thing, thus making navigation and structure a bit easier |
| 10:31:34 | adi|home | rather then a split of 'Sound' and 'General' |
| 10:32:04 | adi|home | a seperate thing from what? |
| 10:32:07 | adi|home | other settings? |
| 10:32:08 | dwihno | I think it's fine the way it is :) |
| 10:59:21 | adi|home | grrr.. linus sends out emails..but don't come to irc .. :) |
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| 11:00:39 | Zagor | Hes: are you there? |
| 11:00:47 | adi|home | Zagor :) |
| 11:00:51 | adi|home | question for you.. |
| 11:00:54 | adi|home | menus... |
| 11:01:09 | adi|home | what do you think of merging Sound and General settings into just 'Settings' |
| 11:01:20 | adi|home | does it make sense keeping 'Sound' a seperate menu anymore? |
| 11:01:27 | Zagor | that would make it very long |
| 11:01:36 | adi|home | make what very long? |
| 11:01:54 | Zagor | uh, no. forget what I said. |
| 11:01:55 | adi|home | oh.. no .. no.. hold on |
| 11:02:09 | adi|home | think |
| 11:02:11 | adi|home | <adi|home> Settings |
| 11:02:11 | adi|home | <adi|home> - Sound |
| 11:02:11 | adi|home | <adi|home> - Vol |
| 11:02:11 | adi|home | <adi|home> - Bass |
| 11:02:11 | adi|home | <adi|home> ... |
| 11:02:12 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 11:02:12 | adi|home | <adi|home> - Playback |
| 11:02:13 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 11:02:13 | adi|home | <adi|home> - File View |
| 11:02:17 | adi|home | like that |
| 11:02:34 | Zagor | it's probably a good idea. the only drawback is that it takes longer to reach the frequently-used sound settings |
| 11:02:50 | adi|home | well... |
| 11:03:00 | adi|home | vol you get to with up and down arrows as the song plays |
| 11:03:05 | adi|home | and the bass/.... |
| 11:03:13 | adi|home | how often are those played with? |
| 11:03:22 | dwihno | adi: I agree with Zagor on this on! |
| 11:03:26 | dwihno | s/on/one/ |
| 11:03:41 | adi|home | no you don't ;) |
| 11:03:43 | Zagor | i say we hold on with moving until we have .eq file support |
| 11:03:48 | adi|home | <dwihno> I think it's fine the way it is :) |
| 11:04:06 | dwihno | You are misinterpreting me |
| 11:04:09 | adi|home | i still don't understand what the .eq files are to do. |
| 11:04:16 | dwihno | "only drawback is that it takes longer to reach the frequently-used sound settings" |
| 11:04:26 | dwihno | fast loading of different settings |
| 11:04:29 | dwihno | I mean, I have two pair of headphones |
| 11:04:45 | dwihno | My Sony (hello Zagor ^_^) and Sennheiser |
| 11:05:07 | dwihno | The Sennheiser are more exquisite and I prefer a lower bass on those... |
| 11:05:19 | dwihno | Let's say you can keep two different configurations, that would kick truly ass |
| 11:05:24 | dwihno | (or with .eq files, unlimited) |
| 11:05:33 | dwihno | (of course, easily configurable) |
| 11:05:40 | dwihno | Which would require disk writing |
| 11:05:43 | dwihno | so get to work Zagor ;) |
| 11:06:26 | adi|home | see i can't see the trade off of 1 extra key stroke for a cleaner interface being all that bad |
| 11:06:49 | dwihno | User friendlyness! :) |
| 11:07:33 | adi|home | i don't see how keeping the menus seperate makes them _less_ user friendly... |
| 11:08:02 | Zagor | adi|home: I agree. but I still want to take it easy, to avoid ramblings on the list. |
| 11:08:13 | Zagor | it's just a question of a few days |
| 11:08:15 | dwihno | a keypress is very jobbich! |
| 11:08:20 | adi|home | esp considering i would figure that the cases of ppl _not_ playing with bass/treble/balance is sig. more then those that do. |
| 11:08:32 | adi|home | nods i have no prob with it |
| 11:09:20 | adi|home | btw.. |
| 11:09:25 | adi|home | the default config menu option |
| 11:09:34 | adi|home | it seems to 'hang' on me... |
| 11:09:42 | adi|home | it's looking for a default config file yes? |
| 11:10:58 | Zagor | default config menu options? what's that? |
| 11:11:39 | Zagor | can you guys reach the web site? there seems to be a dns problem |
| 11:11:51 | adi|home | Gen settings->system->load default config |
| 11:12:14 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 11:12:15 | adi|home | i can |
| 11:13:24 | Zagor | who added that option? it's silly. |
| 11:13:31 | adi|home | *shrugs* |
| 11:13:43 | Zagor | files are loaded in the browser |
| 11:13:49 | * | Zagor slaughters |
| 11:14:05 | adi|home | does snow seem dim to you on your recorder? |
| 11:14:14 | adi|home | it seems to run fine now (i think i had an old snow.c) |
| 11:14:20 | Zagor | a bit, but not very |
| 11:14:22 | adi|home | but the flakes seem like the contrast is down on them. |
| 11:15:03 | Zagor | i think that's because they move. the text in Bounce also looks dimmer than the text below (if you press right/left) |
| 11:15:32 | Zagor | ah, "Load Default Config" really means "Reset settings to default" |
| 11:15:54 | adi|home | to5 yq.. |
| 11:15:55 | Zagor | only it doesn't have a lcd_update() so it's invisible on recorders |
| 11:15:59 | adi|home | hehe got ya.. |
| 11:16:01 | adi|home | nods |
| 11:16:07 | adi|home | that needs to be fixed |
| 11:16:25 | adi|home | have you given any thought to a text input interface? |
| 11:16:42 | Zagor | lots. but i let others write it :-) |
| 11:16:55 | adi|home | hehe thats fine.. |
| 11:17:00 | adi|home | i was planning/hoping too. |
| 11:17:12 | adi|home | but im not sure what input method seems to make the most sense |
| 11:17:19 | * | PsycoXul would like the option of a layout derived from dvorak |
| 11:18:42 | PsycoXul | if thats applicable to how you end up doing it ... |
| 11:18:43 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 11:18:57 | adi|home | well.. im sure we could make it an option.. |
| 11:19:03 | adi|home | ive given that thought too ;) |
| 11:19:14 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 11:19:27 | adi|home | mind if i use you guys as sounding boards? |
| 11:19:36 | Zagor | ? |
| 11:20:02 | adi|home | well.. the 2 interfaces that seem to jump out right now.. |
| 11:20:09 | adi|home | are 1. a straight char lay out |
| 11:20:11 | adi|home | ie: |
| 11:20:20 | adi|home | a b c d e f g h i |
| 11:20:32 | adi|home | j k l m n o p q are t s |
| 11:20:37 | adi|home | stupid xchat |
| 11:20:39 | adi|home | etc... |
| 11:20:44 | PsycoXul | haha |
| 11:20:48 | adi|home | and you arrow to the char you want.. and select it.. |
| 11:20:55 | adi|home | or 2. |
| 11:21:07 | adi|home | the alpahbet broken up into 3 groups... |
| 11:21:21 | adi|home | and arrows left, up and right take you to one of the groups |
| 11:21:29 | adi|home | then that group is split in 3 |
| 11:21:36 | adi|home | and etc till you get to the char you want |
| 11:21:48 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 11:21:51 | adi|home | witht he down being reserved for punc etc on the first level |
| 11:22:05 | adi|home | but that seems like you don't really save on keystrokes |
| 11:22:10 | adi|home | and the display is much more messy |
| 11:22:27 | adi|home | i figure with option 1, the user can choose what layout of the chars they want |
| 11:22:46 | adi|home | or.. option 3. and a bit toughter |
| 11:22:52 | adi|home | we layout an actual keyboard... |
| 11:22:59 | adi|home | 1234567890 |
| 11:23:02 | adi|home | qqwertyuiop |
| 11:23:10 | adi|home | asdfghjkl;' |
| 11:23:11 | adi|home | etc |
| 11:23:30 | adi|home | opinions? |
| 11:23:32 | adi|home | comments? |
| 11:23:36 | adi|home | monetary donations? |
| 11:24:07 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 11:24:14 | Zagor | i think the straight map layout is probably the best, at least for starters |
| 11:24:18 | PsycoXul | aoeuidhtns |
| 11:24:20 | Zagor | especially for players |
| 11:24:49 | adi|home | nods |
| 11:25:05 | adi|home | so then option 1 to start... |
| 11:25:10 | adi|home | following that.. |
| 11:25:24 | adi|home | i figure a layout with the top line being the display of selected chars |
| 11:25:37 | adi|home | 2nd line being the (first on recorder) selection line |
| 11:25:50 | adi|home | fair enough? |
| 11:25:58 | dwihno | are there a more sufficient way to encode data than base64? |
| 11:26:03 | PsycoXul | i find dvorak has less reaching from the home row than qwerty.. which is especialy important on players... |
| 11:26:08 | Zagor | i prefer a 2d map for recorders |
| 11:26:08 | dwihno | just to make it survive a non-8bit transport? |
| 11:26:10 | PsycoXul | adi|home: if i read that right i think it sounds good |
| 11:26:29 | adi|home | Zagor: what do you mean a 2d map? |
| 11:26:41 | Zagor | a b c d e f g h |
| 11:26:45 | Zagor | i j k l m n o p |
| 11:26:47 | adi|home | right |
| 11:27:03 | Zagor | and a single line at the bottom with a cursor |
| 11:27:09 | adi|home | well.. i figure that for both players and recorders ;) |
| 11:27:09 | Zagor | where the text ends up |
| 11:27:20 | adi|home | ah.. see.. i figured put the selected text at the top.. |
| 11:27:23 | adi|home | but bottom if you want... |
| 11:27:36 | Zagor | players can't show more than one line. the other will be the entered text. |
| 11:27:44 | adi|home | nods |
| 11:27:46 | adi|home | i know.. |
| 11:27:52 | Zagor | so i figure playes will be like old arcade high-score screens :-) |
| 11:28:05 | adi|home | nods |
| 11:39:10 | Zagor | will "dir /sb > playlist.m3u" make a good playlist\ |
| 11:39:29 | Zagor | any windows user here? |
| 11:39:49 | * | Zagor is updating the faq with a softer, friendlier touch :-) |
| 11:41:44 | adi|home | ? |
| 11:41:48 | adi|home | what i do this time? |
| 11:42:04 | * | adi|home is starting to think that Zagor doesnt' like him |
| 11:42:05 | * | adi|home smirks |
| 11:42:27 | adi|home | hey.. zagor.. you want my girlfriend while your at it? |
| 11:42:31 | adi|home | i have a dog you could kick |
| 11:42:34 | * | adi|home cackles |
| 11:43:33 | adi|home | zagor i ment to ask.. what caused the turn around on the inclusion of snow? |
| 11:50:28 | | Join Phantom [0] (Phantom@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-2-44.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:50:39 | Phantom | hi ! |
| 11:51:34 | * | Phantom is french and want to translate rockbox in the most beautifull language => French |
| 11:54:59 | * | Phantom have just a problem, he know how to translate but not how to build the .ajz |
| 11:55:14 | Zagor | adi|home: we discussed it over lunch, me, linus and bagder. and decided to change "screensavers" to "demos". and snow is a semi-decent demo that takes very little space, so we opted to include it |
| 11:55:26 | Zagor | you kan keep the dog, by the way. ;) |
| 11:56:08 | adi|home | lol |
| 11:56:12 | adi|home | ahh... |
| 11:56:25 | Zagor | Phantom: i suggest you wait a couple of days. we're in the process of fixing proper multi-language support |
| 11:56:31 | adi|home | im just convinced you guys don't like accpeting things i suggest ;) |
| 11:56:39 | adi|home | "i recommend snow" |
| 11:56:41 | adi|home | 'no' |
| 11:56:51 | adi|home | "okay.. i recommend we move menus" |
| 11:56:53 | adi|home | 'no' |
| 11:57:01 | Zagor | hehe. we want to keep you on a short leash :) |
| 11:57:06 | adi|home | hehehe |
| 11:57:16 | adi|home | and now your 'nuetering' the FAQ |
| 11:57:18 | adi|home | LOL |
| 11:57:26 | Zagor | nah, just the 400 files question. |
| 11:57:42 | adi|home | ahh.. i don't remember what the answer to that was.. gotta look |
| 11:58:40 | Zagor | i'm making it more "marketing speak" ;) |
| 11:58:47 | adi|home | you do know im just busting your balls about all this right? |
| 11:58:50 | Phantom | ok, and for ROLO ?why do not inclued it in the "non-daily" version ? |
| 11:58:57 | Zagor | adi|home: yup, i know |
| 11:59:03 | adi|home | i do understand that this isn't a true democracy ;) |
| 11:59:09 | Zagor | Phantom: non-daily? |
| 11:59:11 | adi|home | we live in a state ruled by the code police :) |
| 11:59:21 | Phantom | in the 1.3 |
| 11:59:21 | Zagor | heh |
| 11:59:24 | adi|home | ahh.. |
| 11:59:29 | adi|home | it wasn't ready when 1.3 came out |
| 11:59:32 | Zagor | Phantom: because rolo wasn't written when 1.3 was released |
| 11:59:35 | adi|home | it will be include in 1.4 |
| 11:59:35 | Zagor | it will come in 1.4 |
| 11:59:38 | Zagor | echo |
| 11:59:40 | adi|home | hehe beat you Zagor |
| 11:59:55 | * | Zagor is just a fait echo of adi|home |
| 11:59:57 | adi|home | see.. now -that- was a perfectly valid question... |
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| 12:00:01 | Zagor | faint even |
| 12:00:08 | * | adi|home would like more newbies like Phantom |
| 12:00:23 | adi|home | btw.. welcome Phantom |
| 12:00:37 | Zagor | we have many french users. is archos really big in france, Phantom? |
| 12:00:39 | Phantom | do you want to listen the story of my JBR ? |
| 12:00:48 | Phantom | that very fun |
| 12:01:10 | Phantom | I've buy a JBR 6GO last chrismash |
| 12:01:15 | adi|home | Zagor #50 was taken mostly from one of your posts on one of the forums ;) |
| 12:01:44 | Phantom | but last week, It burned |
| 12:02:09 | adi|home | ohhh.. #51 was a good addition Zagor.. good call.. |
| 12:02:45 | Phantom | And today, Archos send me a new one but 10go ! |
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| 12:24:34 | Phantom | May the force be with rockbox ! |
| 12:24:45 | Zagor | :) |
| 12:25:18 | Phantom | all the earth wait for 1.4 with Record and/or ROLO |
| 12:25:52 | Zagor | rolo is in the daily builds. dont wait - download |
| 12:26:22 | Phantom | yes, but... there is no games in daily |
| 12:27:16 | Phantom | builds |
| 12:27:30 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 12:28:39 | Zagor | have you tried the latest? |
| 12:28:52 | Phantom | no |
| 12:29:02 | Zagor | try it. the games should be there. |
| 12:29:08 | Phantom | ok |
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| 12:30:42 | adi|home | zagor... the lcd_putsxy |
| 12:30:55 | adi|home | there is no way to control the padding between chars correct? |
| 12:30:57 | Phantom | right games are in but...how to start rolo ? |
| 12:31:03 | Zagor | correct |
| 12:31:08 | adi|home | hmmm |
| 12:31:15 | Zagor | Phantom: select an *.ajz file and press play |
| 12:31:20 | adi|home | what would you think about adding a function allowing you too? |
| 12:31:26 | Zagor | Phantom: turn off mp3/m3u filter to see ajz files |
| 12:31:28 | Phantom | ARG |
| 12:31:41 | Phantom | NO !!! |
| 12:31:42 | adi|home | because having to call lcd_putcxy seems to be a bit overboard for all the chars to display |
| 12:31:45 | adi|home | on the keyboard.. |
| 12:31:46 | Zagor | adi|home: what for? |
| 12:31:48 | Zagor | ah |
| 12:32:07 | Zagor | nah, you must do that anyway since chars are of variying width |
| 12:32:10 | adi|home | im just thinking 26-36 calls to lcd_putcxy would be senseless |
| 12:32:17 | Phantom | There is no *.ajz, coz' I ve have the last firmware 1.28 |
| 12:32:17 | Zagor | make a loop |
| 12:32:28 | Zagor | Phantom: hehe |
| 12:32:43 | adi|home | well.. they are of varing width, yes, but font size widht will remain the same.. |
| 12:32:54 | Phantom | ==========>>>>***Headshoot |
| 12:32:54 | adi|home | and if we set the padding, that won't change either will it? |
| 12:33:02 | * | adi|home is brainstorming |
| 12:33:08 | Zagor | adi|home: there will be no "font size width" in the future. only width of specific strings |
| 12:33:18 | adi|home | ah.. okay then |
| 12:33:26 | Phantom | is somebody have the 1.28 file ? |
| 12:33:33 | adi|home | um.. how do i know how wide a char is then? |
| 12:33:38 | Zagor | Phantom: isn't it available on archos.com? |
| 12:33:45 | Zagor | adi|home: lcd_getstringsize() |
| 12:33:57 | adi|home | but then i need to do that on each char as well.. |
| 12:34:00 | adi|home | so i would need like |
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| 12:34:04 | adi|home | for() { |
| 12:34:13 | adi|home | lcd_getstringsize('a') |
| 12:34:22 | adi|home | lcd_putcxy('a') |
| 12:34:28 | adi|home | other stuff |
| 12:34:30 | adi|home | } |
| 12:34:32 | adi|home | no? |
| 12:34:38 | Phantom | Zagor : it is the 1.27d in archos web site |
| 12:34:39 | Zagor | not really. the chars can have fixed positions |
| 12:34:48 | Zagor | Phantom: use that. it's not a big difference. |
| 12:35:03 | Phantom | ok |
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| 12:35:17 | adi|home | i don't see how fixed positions helps. |
| 12:35:26 | GomGom | Zagor: does the 2 scripts cvslast5 and last5commits.pl can generate ascii changelog ? |
| 12:35:27 | Phantom | I must rename it in something ? |
| 12:35:42 | Zagor | adi|home: then you don't need to know the size of the char. just put it at its' fixed position |
| 12:35:59 | Zagor | GomGom: ah, no. i thought you wanted the html log. hang on... |
| 12:36:06 | adi|home | yes i do... |
| 12:36:11 | Zagor | Phantom: no, just call it something.ajz |
| 12:36:15 | adi|home | because how am i to select the char? |
| 12:36:24 | adi|home | im figuring a rect around the char or something |
| 12:36:30 | Zagor | ah, right |
| 12:36:31 | GomGom | Zagor: thx |
| 12:36:45 | adi|home | don't mean to make you multitask ;) |
| 12:37:10 | Zagor | well this is pretty fluid right now with the font code changing. we might be able to dive right into the font info struct one it stabilizes |
| 12:37:20 | adi|home | nods |
| 12:37:24 | adi|home | ill just do it the messy slow way |
| 12:37:32 | adi|home | we can square peg round hole it later |
| 12:37:36 | Zagor | yup |
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| 12:40:20 | Phantom | Zagor: I can see the 3 firmware "ajbrec.ajz/archos.ajz/Jukebox" but when I press play nothing happen |
| 12:41:52 | GomGom | Zagor: do you send me the ascii script by email ? |
| 12:42:35 | adi|home | phantom, nothing happens when you play on archos.ajz? |
| 12:42:59 | Phantom | no |
| 12:43:12 | adi|home | what version of Rockbox are you using? |
| 12:43:25 | Phantom | today |
| 12:43:43 | Phantom | 09/07/2002 |
| 12:43:48 | adi|home | you don't get _any_ message at all on the screen? |
| 12:43:53 | Zagor | GomGom: yup |
| 12:44:10 | Phantom | no |
| 12:44:14 | GomGom | ok |
| 12:45:26 | adi|home | are you on a recorder or player Phantom |
| 12:46:06 | Phantom | recorder 10 |
| 12:46:19 | Zagor | GomGom: umm, what was your mail again? :-) |
| 12:46:27 | adi|home | im going to send you a .ajz try and load it by 'playing' it |
| 12:46:35 | Phantom | ok |
| 12:47:12 | GomGom | Zagor: ed.gomez@wanadoo.fr |
| 12:47:33 | Phantom | GomGom tu est français toi aussi ? |
| 12:47:41 | adi|home | Phantom: take the file... |
| 12:47:45 | adi|home | do you get dcc? |
| 12:48:17 | Phantom | rejected |
| 12:48:28 | adi|home | ill try again |
| 12:48:42 | adi|home | tryng again |
| 12:49:09 | Phantom | phantomdjp007@voila.fr |
| 12:49:22 | Phantom | that is better |
| 12:50:36 | adi|home | http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/propfont.ajz |
| 12:50:39 | adi|home | thats better :) |
| 12:51:01 | Phantom | yes |
| 12:51:15 | adi|home | try loading that.. |
| 12:51:53 | GomGom | Phantom: ouais frenchy espagnol mm :) |
| 12:52:10 | adi|home | News from the 'mommy said i have no life' dept: http://www.news.wisc.edu/newsphotos/atomic.html |
| 12:54:06 | Phantom | don't load |
| 12:54:45 | Phantom | what firmware must I start? last rockbox, archos or this one ? |
| 12:54:52 | Zagor | last rockbox |
| 12:54:56 | adi|home | rockbox |
| 12:55:01 | adi|home | are you in archos now? |
| 12:55:05 | Phantom | so, don't work |
| 12:55:13 | Phantom | no, rocbox |
| 12:59:20 | adi|home | Phantom do me a favor? |
| 12:59:37 | adi|home | hit your first menu button |
| 12:59:49 | adi|home | scroll to version and tell me what version it says you have |
| 12:59:58 | adi|home | Zagor.. i look at the credits screen.. |
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| 13:00:02 | adi|home | it looks all blurry.. |
| 13:00:07 | adi|home | like its scrolling too fast |
| 13:04:17 | Zagor | adi|home: hmm? i'll try |
| 13:04:34 | adi|home | k |
| 13:05:28 | Phantom | ver 1.3 |
| 13:05:35 | adi|home | thats why |
| 13:05:40 | adi|home | you didn't load the daily build |
| 13:05:48 | adi|home | ver 1.3 doesn't have the rolo |
| 13:06:42 | Phantom | I know why, come back in few seconds |
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| 13:14:01 | Phantom | if I load Archos, how to return to rockbox ? |
| 13:14:19 | dwihno | reboot |
| 13:14:26 | dwihno | since archos does not have a bootloader |
| 13:14:26 | Phantom | k |
| 13:14:45 | Phantom | that is why I asked |
| 13:16:09 | Phantom | adi ? |
| 13:17:54 | Phantom | Adi, your the one ! That work, and the firmware you give me support é/è/à ... |
| 13:17:55 | dwihno | adi will probably answer something similar ;) |
| 13:18:33 | dwihno | Phantom: with propfonts, a lot more information can be fitted on the screen. |
| 13:18:52 | Phantom | ? |
| 13:19:06 | Phantom | coz letters are smaller ? |
| 13:20:01 | dwihno | nope, they are thinner |
| 13:20:03 | Phantom | More games ! More games ! |
| 13:21:10 | dwihno | wormlet is most addictive |
| 13:21:21 | Phantom | yes |
| 13:21:55 | adi|home | phantom you want more games, then write them ;) |
| 13:21:56 | Phantom | but others games could be good |
| 13:22:11 | adi|home | phantom the firmware i gave you is prop font.. |
| 13:22:15 | adi|home | its a bit outdated though |
| 13:22:19 | adi|home | 3 days old :) |
| 13:22:25 | Phantom | ;-) |
| 13:22:29 | * | adi|home works beyond the bleeding edge |
| 13:22:36 | adi|home | or else i would compile you a clean one |
| 13:22:42 | Phantom | why don't give it on the web ? |
| 13:22:58 | adi|home | to many options to off them all on the web |
| 13:23:01 | dwihno | 3 days? then it doesn't have the recent speed boosts... |
| 13:23:06 | adi|home | nods |
| 13:23:21 | adi|home | i think we need mine sweeper |
| 13:23:29 | Phantom | YES !!! |
| 13:23:31 | dwihno | We need also a .txt viewer |
| 13:23:37 | adi|home | we have a stub for it |
| 13:23:37 | Phantom | YES !!! |
| 13:23:40 | adi|home | so get working boy ;) |
| 13:24:02 | Phantom | and halflife ! |
| 13:24:05 | Phantom | lol |
| 13:24:12 | Phantom | escuse me |
| 13:24:16 | adi|home | *coughs* |
| 13:24:18 | adi|home | read the faq ;) |
| 13:24:30 | Phantom | already done |
| 13:24:30 | dwihno | how about doom then? :) |
| 13:24:32 | Phantom | :-) |
| 13:24:39 | adi|home | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#28 |
| 13:24:45 | adi|home | don't make me hit you ;) |
| 13:25:19 | Phantom | there are good, small and black and white games |
| 13:25:30 | adi|home | your french.. you already have one strike against you ;) don't make me give you another one |
| 13:25:31 | * | adi|home smirks |
| 13:25:44 | adi|home | im up for porting almost anything we can do.. |
| 13:25:58 | adi|home | and once i get keyboard done.. |
| 13:26:03 | Phantom | I know |
| 13:26:11 | adi|home | im considering a modified version of hangman for the players ;) |
| 13:26:13 | Phantom | you do a very good work |
| 13:26:15 | adi|home | so they have games too.. |
| 13:26:19 | adi|home | not me.. |
| 13:26:24 | adi|home | zagor, linus |
| 13:26:27 | adi|home | bagder |
| 13:26:30 | adi|home | edx |
| 13:26:35 | adi|home | and all the other guys.. |
| 13:26:39 | adi|home | i do small needed hacks |
| 13:26:42 | adi|home | the icons |
| 13:26:51 | adi|home | my personal fav is the folder icon |
| 13:27:04 | adi|home | FAQ |
| 13:27:18 | adi|home | LART'ing users when needed |
| 13:29:36 | Phantom | but a small X O X could be fun |
| 13:29:38 | Phantom | sorry |
| 13:29:40 | Phantom | I stop |
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| 13:48:53 | Phantom | hi |
| 13:49:05 | Phantom | an answer |
| 13:49:44 | Phantom | is it possible to delete a folder at startup, automaticly |
| 13:49:58 | adi|home | on the archos? |
| 13:50:28 | adi|home | on the archos.. i don't think soo.. |
| 13:50:32 | adi|home | okay.. bed time for me |
| 13:50:43 | Phantom | coz WinXP make a System Volume Information folder on my Archos each time I plug it |
| 13:51:11 | dwihno | hehe |
| 13:51:17 | dwihno | And that's pretty gay :) *hehe* |
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| 13:57:43 | Dexter | How run "tools / configure" with Cygwin? |
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| 14:41:49 | elinenb|bar | Zagor: you there? |
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| 14:46:04 | Zagor | sporadically :-) |
| 14:47:14 | elinenbe | want to fix a bug for me? |
| 14:47:55 | Zagor | what is it? |
| 14:48:14 | elinenbe | the progress bar on the recorder does not update when you hold ff/rw |
| 14:48:32 | elinenbe | it only updates after you release the button. |
| 14:48:55 | elinenbe | and as I see you are working on the wps... |
| 14:53:20 | Zagor | really? i tested that yesterday. are you running the very latest code? |
| 14:57:04 | elinenbe | hold on I check right now. |
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| 15:02:22 | elinenbe | Zagor: sorry about that... it works fine now. |
| 15:02:37 | elinenbe | Zagor: One thing though, you can't have text and a %pb on the same line |
| 15:02:42 | elinenbe | that would be nice :) |
| 15:03:09 | elinenbe | I would like to do currenttime(=========)totaltime |
| 15:03:18 | elinenbe | where (========) is the progress bar |
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| 15:06:34 | Zagor | elinenbe: yeah, that's next step |
| 15:06:40 | elinenbe | another nice feature would be to "fix" things in place |
| 15:06:57 | elinenbe | such as fix something to the left or right side of the screen |
| 15:07:12 | elinenbe | or 50 pixels in from the left... |
| 15:07:30 | elinenbe | almost more of a template |
| 15:09:55 | Zagor | sounds complex. would it be worth it? |
| 15:10:41 | elinenbe | I dont know. |
| 15:10:56 | elinenbe | I think it would be nice to have the title always centered on the screen :) |
| 15:11:14 | Zagor | :-) |
| 15:11:22 | elinenbe | and I would like total tracks top right corner |
| 15:11:30 | elinenbe | and current track top left corner |
| 15:11:51 | elinenbe | and multi-line pixel scrolling :) |
| 15:12:14 | GomGom | i would like money getting out from the usb port |
| 15:12:23 | GomGom | but i think it's not possible ? |
| 15:12:28 | GomGom | :> |
| 15:12:31 | elinenbe | configurable pixel scrolling (1 - x) per scroll. |
| 15:12:41 | elinenbe | it coul dbe nice to have the whole line update at once |
| 15:13:09 | elinenbe | so if the scrolling line was "Dave Matthews Band - Singing The Blues" |
| 15:13:25 | elinenbe | the screen would look like "Dave Matthews Ban" |
| 15:14:08 | elinenbe | then like "d - Singing The Bl" , and then "ues " |
| 15:14:55 | Zagor | more like paging than scrolling. i think matsl was into that for the player |
| 15:15:02 | elinenbe | yeah. |
| 15:15:17 | elinenbe | the iriver CD player has that option and amazingly most people use it |
| 15:15:31 | elinenbe | you get to see the most info the quickest, and there is no blur. |
| 15:15:38 | Zagor | yup |
| 15:16:28 | elinenbe | It would be harder with prop fonts and loadable fonts though |
| 15:16:41 | elinenbe | Zagor: how is fat32 writing coming? |
| 15:16:51 | Zagor | slowly :-) |
| 15:17:04 | elinenbe | it takes guts to test. |
| 15:17:25 | Zagor | i use a 2G file as disk image for testing |
| 15:18:41 | elinenbe | ah... on the simulator? |
| 15:18:58 | Zagor | no, special code. in firmware/test/ata |
| 15:20:23 | elinenbe | oh |
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| 16:03:22 | bmidy | hi all |
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| 16:11:49 | Electrocut | i've a question for someone who have an archos player with remote |
| 16:12:26 | Electrocut | when u keep the Stop key at the remote, does the jukebox shut off ? |
| 16:12:36 | Electrocut | (keep pressed) |
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| 16:40:36 | langhaarrocker | Is there anywhere some code with which I can detect which mp3 frame the MAS is currently playing? |
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| 16:47:22 | langhaarrocker | Now I accidently sent this &%!$# mail twice. |
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| 16:47:57 | langhaarrocker | If somone is bored he might want to have a look at the new wormlet and maybe commit it to cvs |
| 16:49:28 | langhaarrocker | elinenbe: do you use trillian? |
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| 16:53:30 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: I am not using it now, but I have used |
| 16:54:14 | langhaarrocker | just because I saw something like trilluser@... in your joining message |
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| 18:07:24 | wodokm | someone here? linus? |
| 18:08:22 | wodokm | anyway, great work dudes!!!!!! c ya |
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| 18:17:57 | Zagor | calling hes... |
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| 18:45:17 | Zagor | if anyone is bored, look at http://rockbox.haxx.se/TODO |
| 18:51:05 | mecraw12 | hey Zagor |
| 18:51:25 | Zagor | hi |
| 18:52:07 | mecraw12 | i think i might be able to handle persistent wps and the display glitch in wps |
| 18:52:35 | Zagor | ok. make one patch for each fix. |
| 18:52:52 | mecraw12 | ok |
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| 19:04:35 | mecraw12 | wake up merwin|zZzZz |
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| 19:04:46 | merwin | damn i'm tired |
| 19:05:09 | mecraw12 | where are you this weekend? |
| 19:06:08 | merwin | minneapolis |
| 19:06:39 | merwin | i got friends here so i'm not going home until tomorrow :) |
| 19:07:23 | mecraw12 | i spent 6 weeks there once, gotta love the Mall of America |
| 19:07:47 | merwin | it's nice... only problem is that i can spend all day there and still not find a store that i want to go to |
| 19:07:59 | merwin | i do like the roller coaster |
| 19:08:40 | mecraw12 | Zagor: i assume putting the persistent wps in sector 61 is fine... i shouldn't worry about trying to find 10 bytes in rtc, right? |
| 19:11:07 | Zagor | right |
| 19:11:24 | Zagor | put it at the end, next to the resume info |
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| 19:12:14 | mecraw12 | Zagor: will do |
| 19:12:27 | mecraw12 | or at least try to do :) |
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| 20:26:23 | telliott | Anyone know of an app I can use to unmount my USB Archos so I can run it from a button on my keyboard? |
| 20:26:39 | mecraw12 | windows or linux? |
| 20:26:48 | telliott | Windows |
| 20:27:02 | mecraw12 | one was posted to the mailing list about a month ago |
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| 20:27:42 | telliott | Cool. Is it in the Yahoo group file area? |
| 20:28:07 | mecraw12 | i don't know |
| 20:28:39 | telliott | Do you remember the name, so I can search for it? |
| 20:28:49 | mecraw12 | i'm looking... |
| 20:28:57 | telliott | ok. Thanks |
| 20:29:41 | mecraw12 | here you go: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-08/0544.shtml |
| 20:29:48 | telliott | I love USB 2. Almost as fast as an internal IDE hard drive. |
| 20:29:55 | telliott | Thanks. |
| 20:30:05 | mecraw12 | let me know how it works |
| 20:30:13 | mecraw12 | i think i may need it soon |
| 20:39:35 | telliott | Thanks for the file. It works great in Windows XP. |
| 20:39:45 | mecraw12 | cool |
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| 21:38:07 | edx | hmmm Zagor, are you in? |
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| 21:52:33 | pimlottc | disk: NULL |
| 21:52:40 | pimlottc | can't be good |
| 21:52:43 | adi|home | hmmm does lcd_putc not work? |
| 21:53:01 | pimlottc | works fine |
| 21:53:18 | adi|home | hmm.. i can't figure out why i can't get a char to display.. |
| 21:53:53 | pimlottc | for player at least, can't vouch for recorder |
| 21:55:38 | adi|home | i don't see putc being using anywhere... |
| 21:55:53 | pimlottc | I have been using it in my own code |
| 21:56:09 | adi|home | aha! |
| 21:56:13 | adi|home | void lcd_putc(int x, int y, unsigned char ch) |
| 21:56:13 | adi|home | { |
| 21:56:13 | adi|home | (void)x; |
| 21:56:13 | adi|home | (void)y; |
| 21:56:13 | adi|home | (void)ch; |
| 21:56:14 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 21:56:14 | adi|home | } |
| 21:56:18 | adi|home | in the stubs under sim |
| 21:56:24 | adi|home | it don't work in the _sim_ |
| 21:56:29 | pimlottc | wow, lazy |
| 21:56:50 | pimlottc | sims need work for sure |
| 21:57:14 | pimlottc | sigh |
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| 22:01:33 | pimlottc | I think linux usb just fucked up |
| 22:03:15 | pimlottc | yep |
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| 22:38:30 | adi|home | Zagor you around? |
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| 22:49:13 | mecraw12_ | what's the best way to concat strings together? |
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| 22:53:39 | datazone | " %s %s " % (string1,string2) |
| 22:53:47 | datazone | i mean whats the big deal |
| 22:54:22 | datazone | if you are trying to optimise something, i doubt that this is the source of your problem |
| 22:54:28 | mecraw12 | not knowing c real well |
| 22:54:48 | datazone | damn, wrong channel |
| 22:54:52 | datazone | my bad :) |
| 22:55:01 | mecraw12 | i want to put together ROCKBOX_DIR "/" global_settings.wps_file ".wps" |
| 22:55:03 | datazone | stupid xchat tabs |
| 22:55:30 | mecraw12 | where wps_file is a char[] |
| 22:59:11 | Zagor | mecraw12: snprintf |
| 22:59:56 | mecraw12 | i just started using it |
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| 23:00:01 | mecraw12 | :) |
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| 23:02:18 | langhaarrocker | Is there a place where I can search code that provides me with info which mp3 frame is currently being played? |
| 23:02:29 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: mpeg.c |
| 23:03:23 | Zagor | but you won't find exact info. there's a RAM buffer in the mp3 decoder. we just fill the buffer, we don't know when what is played |
| 23:03:52 | langhaarrocker | Do you know wether the MAS can deliver that info? |
| 23:04:15 | Zagor | i doubt it. what's your idea? |
| 23:05:55 | langhaarrocker | Now that I've declared wormlet for finished I want to plan the cuttin editor. I'd like to make an oszillosgramme of an mp3 snippet by using the volume info of the MAS. But somehow I must match which volume values belong to which mp3 frame. I'd really like to get around decoding the real frames. |
| 23:07:31 | pimlottc | wouldn't be cpu for decoding them anyway |
| 23:07:47 | Zagor | I see. well, I could be wrong. grab the docs and start reading |
| 23:09:39 | Zagor | alternatively, you could maybe feed it frame by frame yourself and thus keeping sync |
| 23:09:40 | langhaarrocker | pimlottc: I'd really like to delegate that to the MAS chip as it does the decoding anyway. |
| 23:09:40 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: Yes. I've already printed them and marked the addresses with the volume info green :) |
| 23:13:34 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: single frame feed is an idea that came up in my mind, too. But I've read in the MAS sheet that while recording it can provide a frame counter in the ancillary data. Only that doesn't help me since I don't want to record. :( |
| 23:14:04 | Zagor | :) |
| 23:15:28 | langhaarrocker | By the way: If someone finds any code convention violations in my wormlet patch: Don't hesitate to make me change them. |
| 23:15:53 | Zagor | :-) i haven't checked it yet. (but it's in my queue) |
| 23:17:40 | adi|home | zagor is there im getting an undefined ref to lcd_putc |
| 23:17:44 | adi|home | but i have include lcd.h |
| 23:17:46 | adi|home | ideas? |
| 23:18:07 | Zagor | in sim or target? |
| 23:18:09 | langhaarrocker | isn't it lcd_puts? |
| 23:18:19 | Zagor | they both exist |
| 23:18:31 | Zagor | puts() can't output \x00 |
| 23:18:35 | langhaarrocker | Ok, I'll shut my mouth |
| 23:18:55 | adi|home | target |
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| 23:20:07 | Zagor | adi|home: do you get a link error or compile error? |
| 23:20:27 | adi|home | link |
| 23:20:38 | adi|home | /home/rhak/src/rockbox/src/build/recorder/letters.o: In function `display_keyboard': |
| 23:20:38 | adi|home | /home/rhak/src/rockbox/src/build/recorder/letters.o(.text+0x70): undefined reference to `lcd_putc' |
| 23:20:38 | adi|home | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 23:20:38 | adi|home | make[1]: *** [/home/rhak/src/rockbox/src/build/archos.elf] Error 1 |
| 23:20:39 | adi|home | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rhak/src/rockbox/src/apps' |
| 23:20:41 | adi|home | make: *** [apps] Error 2 |
| 23:20:48 | adi|home | its the playing with keyboard code |
| 23:20:52 | adi|home | i would compile for sim |
| 23:20:59 | adi|home | but lcd_putc is a stub for the sim |
| 23:21:09 | Zagor | aaah, putc only exists for player |
| 23:21:16 | adi|home | grrrr.. okay |
| 23:21:35 | Zagor | only players need to output \0 |
| 23:21:35 | adi|home | then htf am i supposed to draw individual chars on the recorder? |
| 23:21:45 | Zagor | puts("A") |
| 23:21:45 | adi|home | either that or i need that padding function ;) |
| 23:21:53 | adi|home | grrr.. was hoping not to.. |
| 23:22:31 | langhaarrocker | But now that you mention link errors: for a very short time I was very happy to find that the uisimulator\win32\Makefile.v6 worked. |
| 23:22:34 | Zagor | it's actually exactly the same code, so putc() would not be better |
| 23:22:43 | adi|home | k |
| 23:23:02 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: but now it doesn't? |
| 23:23:20 | langhaarrocker | NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cl' : Rueckgabe-Code '0x2 |
| 23:24:48 | langhaarrocker | strange. I never noticed it was MY WORMLET that caused the malfunction! |
| 23:24:51 | langhaarrocker | Argh! |
| 23:25:22 | adi|home | hey zagor.. |
| 23:25:30 | adi|home | did you look at the daily build output recent? |
| 23:25:34 | adi|home | recently? |
| 23:25:45 | adi|home | specifically.. EXTRA_DEFINES |
| 23:26:41 | Zagor | ummm, no. *checking* |
| 23:27:01 | Zagor | oy! |
| 23:27:21 | Zagor | nice module delimiter :-) |
| 23:28:20 | Zagor | i'll deal with that tomorrow, if nobody beats me to it. i'm going to bed now. |
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| 23:29:11 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: don't look at my wormlet patch until I moved all declarations of local vars to the top of the methods. The microsoft compiled doesn't seem to like it. |
| 23:31:12 | langhaarrocker | Oh. seems that note was too late. |
| 23:44:46 | langhaarrocker | cool, now it seems to run in the simulator. |
| 23:47:01 | langhaarrocker | Was I the only one who didn't know that you must declare all variables at the beginning of a block? |
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| 23:57:36 | langhaarrocker | good night, sleep tight |
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