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00:24:00 | adi|home | whats up lowfiler? |
00:24:15 | Lowfiler | huh ok u are there :) |
00:24:23 | Lowfiler | query |
00:24:51 | adi|home | what was it? |
00:25:02 | Lowfiler | i think the win32.mak file isnt up 2 date |
00:25:10 | adi|home | okay.. why/ |
00:25:10 | Lowfiler | while compiling, the following error appears: |
00:25:11 | adi|home | ? |
00:25:31 | Lowfiler | ./recorder/icons.o: In function `statusbar_icon_volume': |
00:25:31 | Lowfiler | ./recorder/icons.o(.text+0x1d0): undefined reference to `lcd_getstringsize' |
00:25:31 | Lowfiler | ./recorder/icons.o: In function `statusbar_time': |
00:25:31 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Lowfiler |
00:25:31 | Lowfiler | ./recorder/icons.o(.text+0x318): undefined reference to `lcd_getstringsize' |
00:25:31 | Lowfiler | make: *** [archos.elf] Error 1 |
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00:25:48 | adi|home | where is the win32.mak file located? |
00:26:15 | Lowfiler | apps |
00:26:17 | adi|home | nm |
00:26:18 | adi|home | looking |
00:26:29 | Lowfiler | k |
00:26:54 | adi|home | hmmm well.. |
00:27:02 | adi|home | it looks fine on the hourly builds |
00:27:08 | adi|home | http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml |
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00:27:30 | adi|home | try clearing out your build directory.. |
00:27:31 | Lowfiler | hmm i checked out the latest cvs files |
00:27:38 | Lowfiler | ok i do |
00:27:40 | adi|home | and delete .deps dir |
00:27:51 | adi|home | or whatever the dependancy dir in windows is |
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00:32:25 | Lowfiler | ok works now! |
00:32:25 | Lowfiler | thx |
00:33:55 | adi|home | np :) |
00:36:36 | Lowfiler | how can i change the font? |
00:37:09 | Lowfiler | the original big font makes my eyes crying :) |
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00:48:16 | Lowfiler | cu |
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07:14:10 | mecraw12 | morning LinusN |
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07:17:12 | LinusN | morning |
07:19:51 | hardeep | mecraw: you're working on repeat aren't you? |
07:20:01 | hardeep | 'cause the todo list hasn't been updated |
07:20:17 | mecraw12 | not really, i gave it a quick try, but wussed out |
07:20:28 | hardeep | heh |
07:20:33 | mecraw12 | i think quelsaruk is going to give it a shot |
07:22:48 | mecraw12 | LinusN: any progress on queueing? |
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07:24:02 | LinusN | i have written most of the playlist stuff, but there are a few quirks to sort out |
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07:31:12 | gizz | hi all, are Psyco Dedman and/or Diddystar here ?? |
07:31:23 | PsycoXul | i am |
07:32:17 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
07:32:17 | * | LinusN senses a Gamebox discussion coming up |
07:32:24 | gizz | why ?? |
07:32:28 | gizz | :) |
07:32:32 | gizz | indeed yes |
07:32:41 | * | PsycoXul runs away |
07:32:46 | gizz | Linus did you receive my reply about it ? |
07:32:53 | LinusN | yup |
07:32:57 | gizz | ok. |
07:33:03 | gizz | and you Psyco ? |
07:33:26 | PsycoXul | lemme see |
07:33:35 | * | gizz presumes nobody wants to hear about Gamebox |
07:34:35 | hardeep | i have become addicted to sokoban... can't get enough of it |
07:34:52 | PsycoXul | i see |
07:35:15 | PsycoXul | gizz: the basic method i used for that particular piece of code was more demonstration-minded than anything |
07:35:40 | gizz | I know that, I did too, by sending the result to Bjorn |
07:35:57 | PsycoXul | gizz: i would like to do more with the idea, but it'll be new code |
07:36:05 | gizz | because many ppl didn't have the chance to see anything not boring on their box |
07:37:33 | gizz | BTW, others : I ported the 'snow' demo on the player :) |
07:37:52 | gizz | (boring : on the player, of course 8) |
07:37:58 | PsycoXul | heh |
07:38:24 | gizz | Psyco : see what I mean ?? :) |
07:38:54 | PsycoXul | when i saw the snow demo for the recorder on the mailing list, i wondered if somebody'd port it to the player :p heh |
07:39:05 | gizz | Psyco : it was more a proof of concept intended to bjorn, because he had even _forgot_ you submitted gamebox before, see ? |
07:39:59 | PsycoXul | gizz: yeah, none of the main rockbox people seemed to take much of an interest in that piece of code heh |
07:40:11 | PsycoXul | gizz: i'm not sure if any of them actualy tried the gamebox part |
07:40:18 | LinusN | i haven't |
07:40:44 | LinusN | the thing is that we are quite busy with a lot of other stuff |
07:41:01 | LinusN | and games tend to have low priority for us |
07:41:08 | gizz | Linus : of course we can understand that :) |
07:41:10 | PsycoXul | of course |
07:41:10 | PsycoXul | heh |
07:41:23 | LinusN | that's why we prefer people like you guys to develop the games |
07:41:24 | gizz | Linus : I presume Psyco talked about _others_ (like me :) |
07:41:31 | gizz | right |
07:42:04 | gizz | (and we prefer gurus like _you_ developping ata, usb and other complex ones ;-) |
07:42:10 | LinusN | :-) |
07:42:25 | LinusN | BTW, i wonder why elinenbe committed another snake game |
07:42:40 | gizz | player version ? |
07:42:58 | LinusN | actually, that snake game was submitted to use before Wormlet, but wormlet is a lot better |
07:42:59 | gizz | I'm sure it's possible, if nobody does, I'll test it |
07:43:04 | LinusN | no, recorder |
07:43:11 | gizz | (on player :) |
07:43:22 | PsycoXul | i had been waiting for certain api's to come in and settle down in rockbox before i started it anew... i think they're all there now, but i've gotten my attention pulled to other projects for the moment... |
07:43:39 | LinusN | PsycoXul: tell us what you need |
07:43:51 | PsycoXul | and speaking of which, tonight i need to play with steel tubes, paper, tape, wax, plaster, and maybe even molten metal |
07:44:50 | PsycoXul | LinusN: i don't think there's anything i need that's not there now |
07:44:53 | gizz | Psyco : did you _ever_ see my gamebox sources ?? (yours wrapped for rbx) |
07:45:12 | PsycoXul | gizz: i looked at what you sent to the mailing list.. the zip and diff's |
07:45:21 | gizz | and the api ? |
07:45:23 | PsycoXul | gizz: but that was missing a lot |
07:46:27 | PsycoXul | well not a lot i guess, but a few things it needed to compile, which i could've thrown in pretty quickly... heh |
07:47:01 | gizz | do you mean : missing player lcd_ funcs ? |
07:47:12 | PsycoXul | yeah i think so |
07:47:26 | gizz | I sent patch to ML for it |
07:48:03 | PsycoXul | yeah that was after then |
07:48:53 | gizz | problem is current lcd_api is not fitted to players, at least for your game, there's no func that output a byte to lcd, not only converted ASCII chars |
07:49:39 | adi|home | even better yet.. i want to know why elinenbe commited a _buggy_ snake game |
07:50:08 | * | mecraw12 hopes elinenbe|sleep doesn't wake up |
07:50:44 | PsycoXul | well the new one would use a mix of cgram and cgrom chars, and it'd use a different map format.. so whatever lcd api issues will be different ones heh |
07:51:14 | adi|home | bah.. he does.. ill bust him about it ;) |
07:51:24 | adi|home | LinusN: you had a chance to look at my keyboard code? |
07:51:36 | PsycoXul | hmm |
07:51:42 | PsycoXul | has playlist loading on rockbox gotten faster? |
07:51:53 | adi|home | on the recorder yeah. |
07:52:00 | PsycoXul | it just loaded my 2975 track list in like 1 second or less |
07:52:21 | PsycoXul | on my player |
07:52:37 | PsycoXul | i haven't used playlists for some time |
07:52:42 | mecraw12 | PsycoXul: Zagor decided to push the turbo button on the RAM |
07:52:43 | LinusN | PsycoXul: lcd_putc() is in lcd.c now, but it still does ASCII translation |
07:53:08 | PsycoXul | since i have no use for static ones in general, and my wholedisk one's been getting out of date.. i just updated it though heh |
07:53:12 | LinusN | mecraw12: dont give Zagor the credit for my work :-) |
07:53:24 | * | mecraw12 hides under the bed |
07:54:11 | mecraw12 | LinusN: it's hard to keep track of who does what when you're reading the irc logs at work without your boss seeing |
07:54:21 | LinusN | :-) |
07:55:06 | LinusN | gizz: why is lcd_gotoxy() needed? |
07:55:20 | LinusN | and lcd_putbyte()? |
07:55:44 | gizz | well, it was a quick port of gamebox, and it needed it, |
07:55:52 | LinusN | PsycoXul: do you know? |
07:56:01 | gizz | because there's a loop, |
07:56:07 | PsycoXul | the old gamebox only needed to avoid the ascii translation because of it's simplistic map format and "collision detection", which will be different in the new one... it'll probably make it easier to keep the game looking right on both old and new players by making use of the translation |
07:56:16 | gizz | gotoxy'd at beginning, and putting raw bytes in it |
07:57:03 | LinusN | instead of moving the cursor for every character? |
07:57:07 | gizz | if I understand well, Psyco works on a totally new version, and nobody wants any more nfo about current version. understood |
07:57:11 | gizz | linus: yea |
07:57:25 | LinusN | ok, so an optimization really? |
07:58:35 | PsycoXul | ok so i'll be working on the new version in my head as i go about my other project, which i've been meaning to get to since december... |
07:58:51 | PsycoXul | [why do tomorrow what you can put off till today?] |
07:59:06 | LinusN | what do you Recorder guys think of the "F1 goes back all the way" suggestion on the mailing list? |
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07:59:10 | LinusN | what do you Recorder guys think of the "F1 goes back all the way" suggestion on the mailing list? |
07:59:21 | LinusN | morning Bagder |
07:59:23 | mecraw12 | why do in 5 minutes what you can automate in 5 years? |
07:59:31 | Bagder | morning |
07:59:40 | gizz | heya bagder |
07:59:42 | mecraw12 | LinusN: seems good to me |
08:00 |
08:00:08 | LinusN | i don't like the suggestion for the ON button, though |
08:00:42 | mecraw12 | does the ON button do anything in the menu right now? |
08:01:03 | LinusN | no |
08:01:19 | mecraw12 | poor button |
08:01:29 | LinusN | left out in the cold |
08:03:12 | gizz | player users : anyone interested in a player lcd_ api for drawing pixels ? or nobody ? ( the snow port uses one ) |
08:04:34 | LinusN | gizz: how would it work? |
08:04:51 | gizz | well, basically the same as in gamebox, |
08:04:54 | LinusN | a matrix of 4x2 chars? |
08:05:34 | gizz | linus: matrix of 8*7 chars, |
08:05:53 | gizz | linus: to hold cgram pixels (for 8 custom chars) |
08:06:03 | LinusN | the display has only 2 lines, how can you have 7 rows? |
08:06:35 | gizz | linus: no, |
08:06:37 | LinusN | the old playes has only 4 user-definable chars, btw |
08:06:54 | gizz | linus: I output 8 custom chars wherever on screen, then no one, |
08:07:06 | gizz | linus: old : oops |
08:07:29 | gizz | linus: then, I only change custom pixels not screen |
08:07:32 | LinusN | but we don't need to support the old players |
08:07:39 | gizz | yes ? |
08:07:48 | LinusN | not if we can makke cool games on the newer ones |
08:08:09 | LinusN | we'll just have to skip, or reduce the games on the older models |
08:08:47 | LinusN | ok so you create a 40x7 pixel bitmap? |
08:09:19 | gizz | well, (5 * 4) * (7 * 2) = 20 * 14 indeed ;) |
08:09:41 | LinusN | the problem is the gap between the rows |
08:09:48 | gizz | yes |
08:09:59 | gizz | but we can't avoid this, anyway, so.. |
08:10:18 | gizz | if I had a recorder, but *sigh* |
08:11:29 | PsycoXul | so how about some sorta quiet mode that turns off all the messages that become unnecessary once you're familiar with rockbox, or something |
08:11:41 | PsycoXul | and what happened to wrapping of setting choices |
08:13:08 | LinusN | PsycoXul: what messages do you want to get rid of? |
08:13:16 | LinusN | PsycoXul: and what wrapping? |
08:15:05 | PsycoXul | like "Keylock {On,Off}" "ID3 Info Screen" and things of that nature if there's others heh |
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08:16:15 | PsycoXul | LinusN: in the choices for a setting in the menu, for example turning something on/off.. pressing past the last choice going back to the first.. it used to do it, but it doesn't anymore |
08:17:00 | adi|home | Bagder.. how goes it? |
08:17:15 | LinusN | PsycoXul: ah, you mean the boolean values? |
08:17:31 | Bagder | how goes what? |
08:17:35 | LinusN | i don't know why that diesppeared |
08:18:17 | PsycoXul | something like that |
08:18:23 | Bagder | I was about to mail out my font patch, but now I think I'll need to check out Greg's stuff first |
08:18:37 | PsycoXul | i wish i knew how to consistently reproduce this stopping for no reason bug |
08:18:42 | PsycoXul | it's happened on my playlist on shuffle now too |
08:18:43 | LinusN | definitely |
08:18:48 | gizz | bagder: any t-shirt poll result ? |
08:18:51 | PsycoXul | while i was in the menu |
08:18:51 | PsycoXul | heh |
08:18:53 | LinusN | PsycoXul: stopping? |
08:19:21 | Bagder | designs number 6, 24 and 23 are top-3 |
08:20:16 | PsycoXul | LinusN: yes, stops for no reason, the WPS (just the text lines) goes blank, and it reads from the HD and spins it down over and over a few times, but does nothing else... if i go back to the browser it works normal, though if i press on again it stays in the browser, and i can play another song just fine and then it's all normal again |
08:21:29 | gizz | bagder: sorry for 7 heh :) ; 23 visibly rocks !! |
08:21:32 | PsycoXul | LinusN: it's always seems to happen a few tracks into the dir/playlist, it's happened on dir play, in a shuffled playlist, without touching it, with the keylock on, and just now in the menu [it stopped, and i returned te the wps which promptly went blank and etc as described] |
08:21:57 | Bagder | gizz: yeps ;-) |
08:23:18 | PsycoXul | the reading/spinning down happens at least 3 times or untill i press the on button, the red light comes on while it's reading and then it spins down, going through each cycle fairly quickly like that like once a second or thereabouts |
08:24:35 | LinusN | PsycoXul: looks like a HD read error |
08:24:45 | LinusN | PsycoXul: is resume on? |
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08:25:18 | gizz | ok bye gentlemen ! (ever noticed there are only male ppl on the project ? :) |
08:25:33 | mecraw12 | how do you know? |
08:25:33 | merwin | gizz: that's fairly usual I've noticed |
08:26:14 | gizz | c u |
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08:26:34 | * | merwin wants to do manual updating |
08:26:35 | LinusN | a mailing list for embedded systems programming is probably not the best place to meet women... :-) |
08:27:05 | PsycoXul | yes resume is on |
08:27:08 | Bagder | merwin: go go go ;-) |
08:27:25 | LinusN | PsycoXul: try to disable resume and see what happens |
08:27:35 | merwin | Bagder: heh, only problem is screenshots... I can't do those, 'cuase the win32 sim for the player doesn't work right |
08:27:45 | Bagder | ouch |
08:27:46 | PsycoXul | ok |
08:29:14 | * | merwin is pigging out on imitation ritz crackers :-) |
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08:30:07 | merwin | stale imitation ritz crackers, even |
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08:40:44 | merwin | time for bed for me |
08:40:45 | merwin | nite |
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08:46:43 | Schnueff | moin |
08:48:36 | LinusN | morning |
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09:08:16 | mecraw12 | how about faster skip backward... just in case i hit the previous button :D |
09:08:33 | adi|home | wow.. anyone looked at yahoo today? |
09:09:06 | Schnueff | hm now |
09:09:26 | LinusN | mecraw12: it is possible, but tricky |
09:09:52 | LinusN | adi|home: yes, what about it? |
09:10:00 | Schnueff | grey/white |
09:10:06 | mecraw12 | mourning... for 9/11 |
09:10:28 | mecraw12 | does 9/11 get much press in Sweden? |
09:10:42 | Bagder | yes |
09:10:43 | LinusN | mecraw12: yes |
09:11:09 | LinusN | the jukebox group is still yellow :-) |
09:12:04 | LinusN | personally, i don't like all those sites scoring cheap points by "mourning" the 9/11 victims |
09:12:31 | mecraw12 | what are they scoring? |
09:15:30 | LinusN | cheap publicity "we care so much"-points, but never mind, i don't live there, so i should probably shut up. this is not a political discussion channel |
09:15:52 | mecraw12 | true true |
09:15:57 | mecraw12 | time for bed |
09:15:57 | mecraw12 | night |
09:16:10 | LinusN | night |
09:20:11 | adi|home | nah.. LinusN you have a right to your opinions |
09:20:12 | adi|home | besides |
09:20:16 | adi|home | if we don't like it.. |
09:20:22 | adi|home | we'll just bomb you too |
09:20:23 | adi|home | :) |
09:20:32 | * | Bagder runs |
09:20:33 | adi|home | 1. afghanistan |
09:20:35 | adi|home | 2. irag |
09:20:38 | adi|home | iraq even |
09:20:39 | Schnueff | hehe |
09:20:47 | adi|home | 3. france (i mean.. hey.. their french) |
09:20:50 | adi|home | 4. Sweden |
09:21:24 | LinusN | :-) |
09:21:42 | LinusN | first the frog eaters and then the meatball eaters |
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09:28:12 | LinusN | yo xagor |
09:28:13 | Bagder | morning Zagor |
09:28:49 | Zagor | hi |
09:29:01 | Zagor | i'm at work today, so i'll be away sporadically |
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10:15:07 | adi|home | http://www.userfriendly.org/static/ |
10:15:50 | * | Bagder gets annoyed at doxygen |
10:16:47 | adi|home | ? |
10:17:13 | Bagder | I wanted to use it generate docs for rockbox |
10:17:20 | Bagder | but I can't make it do what I want |
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11:09:46 | bobTHC | hi |
11:10:09 | LinusN | hi |
11:11:02 | bobTHC | the lcd code was opimized for oscillo function ? |
11:11:20 | LinusN | it used hardware scrolling |
11:12:16 | bobTHC | oscillo function is now useable ? |
11:12:28 | bobTHC | with good refresh rate |
11:12:50 | LinusN | it refreshes very fast |
11:13:34 | bobTHC | it's good for games and graph... |
11:14:26 | LinusN | well, the oscillo function was optimized, not the lcd driver |
11:15:14 | Zagor | wooo, we need a side-scrolling shooter game |
11:15:25 | bobTHC | ok it's a tweak only for oscillo but it's can be apply to all apps ... |
11:15:51 | bobTHC | or it's better to remake the lcd driver directly? |
11:15:59 | Zagor | bobTHC: not really. it can only scroll the entire screen, which makes it not very useful for our normal things |
11:16:12 | Zagor | fun for demos and games, though |
11:16:44 | bobTHC | yes yes shoot them up |
11:17:21 | bobTHC | ;) |
11:27:30 | Bagder | Zagor: http://daniel.haxx.se/recentcvs/ |
11:28:34 | Zagor | Bagder: will you make the text file changelog script available too? |
11:28:53 | Bagder | ah, for the daily build you mean? |
11:28:58 | Zagor | yes |
11:29:03 | Bagder | ok |
11:29:08 | Zagor | goodie |
11:29:24 | Bagder | I'll put it on the same page |
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14:06:21 | Schnueff | is this a vfat feature: i do mkdir with an all uppercase dirname and get a lowercase result? |
14:06:38 | Schnueff | from linux on an archos connected over usb |
14:08:10 | Bagder | where is the "lowercase result" ? |
14:08:24 | Schnueff | w8 |
14:09:03 | Schnueff | hm browsing from the archos its uppercase as it should be, from linux though its lowercase |
14:09:18 | Bagder | rockbox shows the name unaltered |
14:09:27 | Bagder | linux might be "beautifying" it |
14:09:35 | Schnueff | yeah that might be the problem |
14:09:49 | Schnueff | maybe there a mount option |
14:09:54 | Schnueff | there's |
14:09:59 | Bagder | possibly, yes |
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14:14:11 | quelsaruk | hi |
14:14:15 | bobTHC | hi!! |
14:14:34 | quelsaruk | Bagder: is there any news about .lang file format? |
14:15:29 | Bagder | me and Linus agree now |
14:15:59 | LinusN | and that's what's important! |
14:16:01 | LinusN | :-) |
14:16:06 | Bagder | hehe |
14:16:14 | quelsaruk | sorry? |
14:16:30 | LinusN | i just love this (from funmp3players.com): |
14:16:35 | LinusN | "I'm so sick of my archos with the disk error crap. So I switched the polarity. I let it sit for about 5 minutes and smelled the sweet smell of hot electronics, but nothing has changed. It still works, it still gives disk errors when not hooked up to the adapter (properly). Maybe a good electronic spanking is what it needed. " |
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14:18:20 | Schnueff | the option is shortname=mixed |
14:18:40 | LinusN | Schnueff: good to know |
14:18:58 | Schnueff | it seems to apply to 8.3 names only, which was the case for me |
14:23:45 | Bagder | quelsaruk: we still need to adjust all occurrences with fixed strings in the source code |
14:24:20 | quelsaruk | did you have a look to the diffs i made? |
14:24:30 | Bagder | have you posted them? |
14:24:33 | quelsaruk | yes |
14:24:37 | quelsaruk | some days ago |
14:24:44 | quelsaruk | can't remember when |
14:24:45 | Bagder | me check |
14:24:47 | quelsaruk | but last week |
14:25:17 | Bagder | found it |
14:25:22 | quelsaruk | i think its the one of the latest mails in that thread |
14:25:38 | Bagder | the attachment index is neat |
14:25:50 | Bagder | ok, I can comment it right away |
14:26:19 | Bagder | I want access-macros that use the string ID in the style: getstring(LANG_PLAYLIST) |
14:26:46 | Schnueff | hehe "Yesterday I upgraded from 1.3 to the latest daily build (20.10.02)." |
14:26:55 | Schnueff | where to get updates from future? |
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14:29:56 | Bagder | quelsaruk: also, I want IDs that describes the text, so not LANG_PLAYLIST_1 but rather LANG_LOADING etc |
14:30:56 | quelsaruk | ok.. |
14:31:08 | quelsaruk | got it Bagder |
14:31:14 | Bagder | :-) |
14:31:17 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:32:24 | Bagder | and sorry for not noticing this before |
14:32:32 | quelsaruk | as i had no notices from you, now i was trying to make non-continuous play, so this must wait at lesat one week, ok? |
14:32:47 | Bagder | sure |
14:33:00 | Bagder | I'll sort out the lang file format in the mean time |
14:33:05 | quelsaruk | doesn't matter... there are a lot of mails.. and that was when we had the mail loop with the "funny" word |
14:33:13 | Bagder | aha |
14:33:28 | quelsaruk | so.. it's normal to miss one |
14:35:04 | quelsaruk | lunch time, cu later |
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14:35:12 | Bagder | see ya |
14:35:22 | * | adi|home sighs |
14:35:34 | adi|home | even if i wanted to escape 9-11 |
14:35:36 | adi|home | i can't |
14:35:43 | adi|home | _every_ tv channel |
14:35:47 | adi|home | _every_ radio statio |
14:35:53 | PsycoXul | tv sucks |
14:35:55 | PsycoXul | so does the radio |
14:36:05 | Schnueff | listen more mp3 then |
14:36:10 | PsycoXul | its all a bunch of crap the rest of the time |
14:36:19 | PsycoXul | now it's all just focused crap |
14:36:37 | adi|home | well.. i dunno if i would call it crap... |
14:36:44 | adi|home | but i just... |
14:36:48 | * | adi|home shrugs |
14:37:16 | LinusN | just focus on business, and code Rockbox!!! |
14:40:04 | PsycoXul | FAQ #39's kinda out dated isn't it? |
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14:41:30 | Phantom | Hi ! |
14:41:33 | Phantom | Salut ! |
14:41:40 | Phantom | Bonjour ! |
14:41:44 | Bagder | hey ho |
14:42:02 | LinusN | HELO |
14:42:14 | adi|home | no.. not yet PsycoXul |
14:42:16 | Phantom | Is there somebody with the last propfont ? ;-) |
14:42:20 | adi|home | not until we reach 1.4 |
14:42:33 | Bagder | the last propfont? |
14:42:53 | Phantom | I want to play classic snake with propfont |
14:43:00 | Bagder | hehe |
14:43:04 | Bagder | then build one ;-) |
14:43:50 | Phantom | if I was able to build one a french rockbox should allready be out |
14:44:01 | Phantom | ;-) |
14:45:16 | Phantom | ? |
14:45:24 | Phantom | nobody is here ? |
14:46:05 | Bagder | Phantom: only 25 ppl and you ;-) |
14:47:12 | Phantom | lol |
14:47:27 | Phantom | but nobody say anything |
14:47:33 | Bagder | right |
14:47:42 | Bagder | most of us are busy with various things |
14:48:27 | Phantom | so if I want "propfont" with snake classic i need to ask to god ? |
14:49:09 | LinusN | i am god |
14:49:15 | Bagder | hehe |
14:49:22 | LinusN | Phantom: hang on |
14:49:44 | PsycoXul | i'm god too, but not the kind to help you with that, sorry |
14:51:18 | LinusN | Phantom: http://linus.haxx.se/ajbrec.ajz |
14:53:05 | Phantom | I love you |
14:54:37 | Phantom | question : why don't make a version with both fonts ? |
14:54:57 | Bagder | answer: the propfonts are subject for removal |
14:55:03 | Bagder | and we'll use loadable fonts all over |
14:55:36 | Phantom | cool |
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15:02:05 | elinenbe | adi|home : you here? |
15:26:38 | Schnueff | resume is only possible after booting up is that right? |
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15:27:32 | wodokm | hi you all, linus u there ? |
15:28:37 | LinusN | i am |
15:31:49 | wodokm | ah great, i'm currently using v1. where you (guys) have fixed sound distortion once again. but it's not 100%, or am i the only one that noticed that? when i use my headphones with vol >70 or 80, it's so messed up ;( |
15:32:49 | datazone-work | maybe its your headphones cant handle it |
15:33:25 | wodokm | data: na, it's not that loud that i'd be trashed, i have it on my amp at home now, lemme try volume 100 |
15:34:05 | LinusN | wodokm: does the distortion disappear when you increase the treble? |
15:34:06 | datazone-work | as far as i can tell the max volume with the rockbox firmware is much louder than the max with the standard firmware |
15:34:25 | PsycoXul | datazone-work: it is |
15:34:40 | datazone-work | the 100% on the original is like 86% on rockbox |
15:35:03 | PsycoXul | actualy it depends on the bass/treble settings too |
15:35:08 | LinusN | datazone-work: that depends on the bass/treble settings |
15:35:25 | PsycoXul | when i've got them set fairly high, the 100% original is more like 75 or 80% on rockbox |
15:35:39 | datazone-work | i see |
15:35:52 | LinusN | we try to max out the volume |
15:36:07 | LinusN | so if the treble/bass is low we can have a higher volume |
15:36:19 | LinusN | and better quality |
15:36:24 | datazone-work | my headphones sound right without having to adjust anything but the volume, so i dont worry about it |
15:36:25 | wodokm | lunis: my bass/treb settings are 7db and 7db... strange thing, in the first version there was this where i sent you the waves, but this seems to be some other kind of distortion... |
15:36:48 | wodokm | data: you have player >4.5? |
15:36:55 | datazone-work | yeah |
15:37:21 | wodokm | data: strange... |
15:37:40 | wodokm | linus: btw do you go for not displaying .mp3 and .mp3 ? ;-)) |
15:38:25 | LinusN | eh? |
15:38:48 | wodokm | linus: sounds clipped, mostly on bass (it's where i notice it).. i don't know if thee's distortion on lowe volumes also, i'll go for the sampling method again ;( |
15:39:09 | wodokm | linus: WPS set to filename, it sould not display the file-extension... |
15:39:34 | LinusN | wodokm: it still does in the WPS |
15:39:41 | PsycoXul | wodokm: there's 2 seperate tags for that now, one with and one without |
15:39:51 | LinusN | wodokm: does it sound the same if you connect the line-out? |
15:40:13 | wodokm | ah okay i guessed you guys will take care of this, you just know everything i want to be improved - because you want it too ;-) |
15:40:18 | PsycoXul | wodokm: with the custom WPS in CVS that is |
15:40:23 | wodokm | linus_ i'll check moment |
15:40:47 | datazone-work | linus, you havent forgotten about my slash sound |
15:40:52 | datazone-work | splash |
15:40:55 | wodokm | line-out sounds fine!! |
15:42:29 | wodokm | cool, custom wps ;-) tooo cool guys |
15:44:27 | wodokm | i can't hear a difference between 72% and lineout for now on that song, i'll check if therre's a difference... |
15:44:41 | elinenbe | LinusN: how is the queue stuff coming? |
15:44:58 | LinusN | elinenbe: haven't had the time |
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15:46:11 | LinusN | wodokm: remember that the Ear jack isn't exactly tailored for connection to an amplifier |
15:46:24 | LinusN | that's what the Line out jack is for |
15:49:41 | wodokm | well, yeah , well: i'll go grab my headphones and test with them again, and do some sampling.. strange thing.. |
15:55:48 | * | mecraw12 wakes up to no CVS commits |
15:58:31 | wodokm | linus: hee we go: line-out -> amp -> headphones : sounds okay i can turn the volume up like hell! |
15:59:09 | wodokm | linus: ear-out on 90 or 100 or so ->headphones : sounds terrible... ;( |
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16:00:12 | Bagder | 90? |
16:00:25 | pimlottc | well, what do you expect? |
16:00:25 | Bagder | I've never been able to go that high ;-) |
16:00:43 | LinusN | My ears hurt when i do that |
16:03:06 | wodokm | badger: 90% on volume setting |
16:03:37 | wodokm | linus: hmm maybe i should try the newest build first before discussing on? |
16:03:40 | Bagder | if I go to 90 I blow my ears off |
16:03:49 | LinusN | wodokm: no need to try new builds |
16:04:04 | LinusN | wodokm: what do you expect to happen? |
16:04:14 | wodokm | linus: maybe you changed smtg |
16:04:29 | LinusN | why do you think that you should be able to push it to 100% without distortion? |
16:05:05 | LinusN | it all depends on your amplifier/headphones |
16:05:34 | LinusN | all we can do is to lower the max volume, and many people would dislike that |
16:06:46 | wodokm | linus: as i told you it's not the amp/headphones, the same volume when going via line-out then amp works on the headphones, so there must be some reason for the distoriion.. |
16:07:35 | LinusN | wodokm: the Ear out jack is different from the Line out jack |
16:07:51 | wodokm | linus: if it's just a problem of being too loud, it's okay (well, yeah ;( ) but i just wondered that it may be some general "bug", i have to check out the lower volumes again, so maybe they're 100% un-distorted... |
16:07:55 | LinusN | it is tailored to be connected to *earphones*, not amplifiers |
16:08:25 | LinusN | i think it is a question of output levels and impedance |
16:08:45 | wodokm | linus: sure, but from 84% upwards it gets distorted, and again: the headphones work with such ear-killing-volumes.. that's my point. |
16:08:53 | LinusN | if the Line-out sounds okay, there is nothing we can do except lower the volume |
16:09:24 | LinusN | wodokm: the amplifier in the Archos is weak, it can't drive all types of ear phones |
16:09:57 | wodokm | linus: just dunno if it's a bug again like the last times or it's simply that the ear out can't take such louds volumes (by hardware), so no one can fix it... |
16:10:17 | LinusN | wodokm: if the line-out sound okay, there is no bug |
16:10:33 | LinusN | sorry |
16:11:14 | pimlottc | unless you get better results in the archos firmware I'd just say the internal amplifier is not great |
16:11:17 | wodokm | linus: okay, that's an answer ;-) |
16:11:50 | wodokm | linus: what had you misadjusted so there were the 2 bugs that caused distortion? |
16:12:27 | wodokm | linus: it's some other kind of distortion , so it really maybe the cheap ear-out-amp |
16:13:02 | LinusN | wodokm: there is a hardware "bug" on some players that sets up the D/A converter wrong, so we have to explicitly set it by S/W |
16:13:51 | LinusN | secondly, the addresses of the PLL registers are moved on some revisions of the chip |
16:16:00 | wodokm | ah okay, anyway, you get that kind of messed sound also when at 86% andhigher, or didn't you try with your headphones? |
16:16:41 | wodokm | linus: not that it's some other "hardware bug" noone knows about ;) |
16:18:49 | LinusN | hehe, i'm afraid not... |
16:21:40 | wodokm | linus: okay, so it's messed up with your jb too, it's not some probs of my jb hardware rev. ... is it the same on the recorder? |
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16:25:59 | LinusN | wodokm: that was the problem, none of my Players experienced the problem |
16:26:15 | LinusN | i had to rely on other people to do the testing |
16:26:45 | LinusN | the recorder doesn't have any such problem |
16:26:58 | wodokm | ah okay... |
16:27:21 | wodokm | so you have it messed up on earphones also with >86% |
16:28:18 | wodokm | linus: and sorry for getting on your nerves ;( |
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16:34:51 | LinusN | wodokm: i don't know if the sound is distorted when i turn up the volume that much |
16:35:08 | LinusN | it gets so loud that i can't bear the pain! :-) |
16:35:54 | Schnueff | maybe u should raise the volume slowly for a week or so :) |
16:36:00 | wodokm | linus: hmm strange issue then..... |
16:36:02 | LinusN | haha |
16:36:12 | LinusN | wodokm: i don't find it strange at all |
16:36:39 | wodokm | schnueff: heheh, but it' snot that problem for me to do 90%... dumb ppl use this as earphone volume, you it works for a short time... |
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16:37:07 | Zagor | hi again |
16:37:12 | Schnueff | wb |
16:37:28 | pimlottc | perhaps dumb people will be discouraged from making themselves deaf if it sounds worse at >90% :P |
16:37:31 | wodokm | lkinus: maybe there's really something hehehe... i'll test at some other jukebox then... |
16:38:22 | wodokm | pim: heheh yeah, you guys are sponsored by the state's health commission o what??? i just wanna connect it to some passive speakers on the beach/lake and such... |
16:38:34 | wodokm | that's why i need power outta the ear-out ;) |
16:41:31 | pimlottc | better bring your amp |
16:44:25 | wodokm | pim: would work fine with 100% volume if undistorted, but hey, i'm happy with the cool features of rockbox, so it's okay ;) |
16:45:39 | pimlottc | if it sound any different with the archos firmwire, then it might be a rockbox issue, otherwise I'd call it hardware |
16:48:05 | wodokm | yeah i'll compare output with archos 100% and the corespondig rockbox output, if that's okay, everything's fine ;-))) |
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17:20:44 | hardeep | morning all |
17:20:50 | Schnueff | moin |
17:20:50 | Bagder | hey hardeep |
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17:23:19 | Bagder | not a single commit today! |
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17:36:28 | elinenbe | Badger: woohoo! |
17:37:01 | Bagder | well Greg stepped on my toes :-) |
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17:51:04 | elinenbe | Bagder: did you get his code yet? It would be nice to get that submitted and the problems worked out. |
17:51:53 | Bagder | haven't got it, no |
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19:10:06 | Phantom | hi again ! |
19:10:24 | Phantom | question : do you need a french translator ? |
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19:17:06 | Phantom | question : do you need a french translator ? |
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19:31:02 | Phantom | question : do you need a french translator ? |
19:33:41 | pimlottc | if you want to make a translation that's fine, but there is not a good system in place yet for translations |
19:33:50 | pimlottc | the only one done so far was done manually |
19:34:30 | pimlottc | so unless you really want one for yourself it'd probably be best to wait until a translation scheme is in place |
19:36:48 | Phantom | okey dokey |
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21:56:32 | langhaarrocker | Guten Abend! |
21:58:13 | langhaarrocker | Has there been a discussion about _completely_ configurable user interface yet? |
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22:02:06 | langhaarrocker | Pimlottc: Are you awake? |
22:02:44 | langhaarrocker | Oh, sorry, name conflict. |
22:03:35 | langhaarrocker | I meant someone else. |
22:13:11 | langhaarrocker | Is there a shift operator that rolls in ones in c? |
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23:39:38 | AaronD1 | how goes it peeps? |
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23:46:29 | AaronD1 | woohoo new mac drivers finaly |
23:46:43 | adi|home | been better |
23:46:49 | adi|home | considering the date |
23:48:49 | AaronD1 | yeah |
23:51:07 | AaronD1 | nothing new has happened today like they predicted though has it? |