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| 00:28:03 | Jet8810 | hey |
| 00:28:22 | Jet8810 | is there any damage to constantly leaving my archos studio 20 plugged into the computer and the wall? |
| 00:28:39 | Jet8810 | instead of transfering files to comp, i want to save space and play them from archos directly in windows |
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| 00:29:40 | Jet8810 | anybody there? |
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| 02:22:48 | pimlottc | it could hurt your battery performance jet |
| 02:23:14 | pimlottc | the player has no control over the charger so it'll keep charging as long as it's plugged in, so you could overcharge the betteries |
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| 04:54:26 | nunya | ok.. perspiring minds wanna know... so what's up with the newest rockox release, people?? |
| 04:56:57 | nunya | don't everyone speak at once!!! ;)) merwin - u alive???? |
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| 05:11:24 | merwin | Wahhhh! |
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| 07:18:16 | mecraw12 | no commits all day?! people actually have other stuff to do?! |
| 07:18:34 | LinusN | incredible |
| 07:18:42 | LinusN | i think it's a first |
| 07:19:04 | LinusN | we can say we had a day of inactivity to honour the 9/11 victims :-) |
| 07:19:10 | mecraw12 | we're not even in the top 200 anymore on sourceforge |
| 07:19:24 | mecraw12 | good spin |
| 07:21:06 | pimlottc | I have slidebar code done for player, just too lazy to implement it for recorder |
| 07:21:49 | LinusN | pimlottc: slidebar? |
| 07:21:57 | LinusN | you mean for settings? |
| 07:22:35 | pimlottc | nod |
| 07:22:44 | LinusN | can i see it? |
| 07:22:56 | pimlottc | ya sure, dcc? |
| 07:23:04 | LinusN | mail to linus at haxx.se |
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| 07:27:02 | pimlottc | sent |
| 07:27:03 | NHeal | brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net |
| 07:27:03 | NJoin | Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) |
| 07:27:22 | LinusN | yo Hes! |
| 07:27:30 | pimlottc | should be pretty easy to add recorder since you don't need charcell tricks :P |
| 07:27:40 | pimlottc | as it is it only uses 2 custom cells |
| 07:27:49 | LinusN | pimlottc: have you taken care of both player versions? |
| 07:27:55 | pimlottc | yes |
| 07:28:03 | pimlottc | only have post to test though |
| 07:28:10 | pimlottc | but it should work |
| 07:28:11 | LinusN | i have both |
| 07:28:38 | pimlottc | contract, spindown and scroll speed use it |
| 07:28:47 | pimlottc | er contrast |
| 07:29:13 | pimlottc | btw I skimmed a paper that said 2s is the optimal spindown time |
| 07:29:17 | pimlottc | for laptops at least |
| 07:30:00 | LinusN | pimlottc: that will depend on the application |
| 07:30:16 | pimlottc | nod |
| 07:30:29 | pimlottc | that's why I added the last bit |
| 07:34:10 | pimlottc | does lowering contrast make any appreciative difference in power consumption |
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| 07:35:55 | LinusN | yo Bagder |
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| 07:42:36 | hardeep | evening all |
| 07:42:56 | Bagder | hi hardeep |
| 07:43:56 | adi|home | boo |
| 07:44:01 | hardeep | hiss |
| 07:44:11 | * | adi|home coughs |
| 07:44:18 | adi|home | im still waiting on comments for the keyboard ;) |
| 07:44:31 | adi|home | http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/teacher.jpg |
| 07:45:40 | adi|home | okay.. enough about 9-11 |
| 07:45:46 | adi|home | time to watch LOTR |
| 07:47:20 | hardeep | hmmmm, anyone got a better name for the "Browse Current Song" feature... i bet we'll be asked about it a lot if it isn't changed (message on yahoo board right now) |
| 07:47:40 | adi|home | you have a url for it? |
| 07:47:41 | pimlottc | yeah I thought the same thing when I saw that today |
| 07:47:55 | hardeep | nothing good came to mind when i wrote it |
| 07:48:05 | hardeep | adi|home: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/message/12608 |
| 07:48:10 | LinusN | i want a quick-menu item for that option |
| 07:48:20 | pimlottc | nothing comes to mind, at least nothing short |
| 07:49:56 | LinusN | maybe "Browser follows playlist" or something |
| 07:50:16 | pimlottc | rather long but more descriptive |
| 07:50:18 | adi|home | what exactly is the feature supposed to do? |
| 07:50:42 | hardeep | laugh |
| 07:50:58 | adi|home | i haven't heard or it before.. thats why i ask |
| 07:50:59 | pimlottc | when you return to file browser from playmode, the current location is the track that was last playing |
| 07:51:14 | pimlottc | which is what the archos firmware does |
| 07:51:28 | LinusN | "Archos Emulation Mode" |
| 07:51:28 | pimlottc | vs rockbox's behavior which returns to where you were when you hit play |
| 07:51:36 | adi|home | nods |
| 07:52:06 | adi|home | how about just 'Display Current Song' |
| 07:52:09 | pimlottc | I think the archos behavior makes more sense |
| 07:52:21 | pimlottc | that's what desktop players do |
| 07:52:36 | LinusN | i think the opposite |
| 07:52:44 | hardeep | i don't know if display is any more informative than browse |
| 07:52:50 | LinusN | i think of the dir browser as a, well, dir browser |
| 07:52:58 | adi|home | nod |
| 07:53:09 | pimlottc | you think of it like windows explorer |
| 07:53:09 | LinusN | i want to browse around freely while playing |
| 07:53:13 | pimlottc | vs winamp playlist |
| 07:53:19 | adi|home | Last Played Song? |
| 07:53:39 | hardeep | adi|home: the song can still be playing |
| 07:54:04 | pimlottc | but the fact that you hit stop, then play and end up on a different song than you were at when you hit stop is unintuitive |
| 07:54:10 | LinusN | "Browser starts at current" |
| 07:54:31 | LinusN | pimlottc: i disagree |
| 07:54:44 | pimlottc | that's how desktop players work |
| 07:54:57 | pimlottc | that's how most music players in general work |
| 07:55:03 | pimlottc | like tapes etc |
| 07:55:07 | LinusN | to be thrown around in the filesystem when you play a multidir random playlist is unintuitive to me |
| 07:55:18 | Bagder | to me too |
| 07:55:24 | pimlottc | multi dir playlists are not the most common case though |
| 07:55:30 | pimlottc | the common case is playing a directory |
| 07:55:30 | LinusN | pimlottc: that's my point |
| 07:55:37 | LinusN | pimlottc: for you maybe |
| 07:56:14 | pimlottc | for most users, I think multi-directory playlists are relatively rare |
| 07:56:24 | LinusN | for directiry play i can agree that moving the browser cursor may be intuitive |
| 07:56:41 | pimlottc | many people don't even use playlists |
| 07:57:05 | LinusN | i can even imagine that browsing to the currently playing directory might be nice in my case too |
| 07:57:25 | LinusN | if i hear a song and want to listen to another song that i know is in the same dir |
| 07:57:35 | pimlottc | I'm certainly not saying the option should be removed, just that the Archod method makes a better default |
| 07:57:39 | LinusN | that's why i want a quick-key for that |
| 07:58:12 | LinusN | maybe even a key combo for "go to dir" |
| 07:58:47 | LinusN | we should have a polling engine on the site |
| 07:58:57 | pimlottc | making stop-play change songs will confuse people |
| 07:59:09 | LinusN | pimlottc: why? |
| 07:59:19 | pimlottc | because it goes against how music players work |
| 07:59:35 | pimlottc | xmms winamp media player all work that way |
| 07:59:42 | pimlottc | tape players work that way |
| 07:59:44 | Bagder | on a CD-player stop-play changes song ;-) |
| 07:59:52 | LinusN | my cd starts over from the first song when i press stop and play |
| 07:59:53 | Bagder | unless you play song 1 |
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| 08:00:04 | pimlottc | xmms and winamp are more direct comparison than cd players |
| 08:00:21 | Bagder | but not a good comparison either |
| 08:00:27 | Bagder | they "walk" in the playlist |
| 08:00:29 | LinusN | winamp doesn't include a file browser |
| 08:00:30 | Bagder | not in a directory |
| 08:00:32 | pimlottc | they're what 99% of the people are used to |
| 08:00:44 | LinusN | pimlottc: this is not winamp |
| 08:00:48 | pimlottc | it's an mp3 player |
| 08:00:56 | pimlottc | and people will expect it to behave like mp3 players they have used before |
| 08:01:01 | pimlottc | principle of least surprise |
| 08:01:32 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 08:01:32 | pimlottc | and in the case I'm not talking about the walking in playlists or file browser, just the stop-play behavior |
| 08:01:35 | LinusN | i have always hated the Archos way |
| 08:01:55 | LinusN | it always timed out and went back to the play-screen |
| 08:02:05 | LinusN | and i had to start over with my browsing |
| 08:02:18 | LinusN | silly behaviour imho |
| 08:02:51 | PsycoXul | yeah, if i go to some screen i'm tere cause i want to be |
| 08:02:57 | PsycoXul | if i want to go to another, i'll go there |
| 08:03:16 | LinusN | indeed, that's why i am not voluteering to implemen the requested timeout feature |
| 08:03:17 | pimlottc | it could be made to only track within the dir and not on multi dir perhaps |
| 08:03:18 | PsycoXul | i don't want it to decide to go somewhere else just cause i've left it there for a while |
| 08:03:50 | LinusN | pimlottc: maybe the upcoming playlist browser will solve that |
| 08:03:50 | pimlottc | I just think the stop-play behavior is confusing and inconsistant with what people expect |
| 08:04:15 | PsycoXul | stop-play behaviour? isn't that dependant on how you have the one option set? i forget what its called... |
| 08:04:23 | Bagder | LinusN: yes, as then we could have STOP pop into the playlist browser at current position |
| 08:04:29 | pimlottc | and that it is an overriding concern vs changing directories which imo is a relatively rare case |
| 08:04:44 | LinusN | the playlist browser will be like winamp |
| 08:04:58 | pimlottc | have you ever used cplay |
| 08:05:06 | LinusN | no |
| 08:05:31 | pimlottc | it's a python front end to mpg123 |
| 08:05:37 | pimlottc | might be a good model |
| 08:05:42 | pimlottc | has a file view and a playlist view |
| 08:06:15 | LinusN | ok, how many average users have used cplay? |
| 08:06:34 | pimlottc | sigh |
| 08:06:37 | LinusN | :-) |
| 08:06:45 | pimlottc | file view and playlist view is what we are moving too no? |
| 08:06:53 | LinusN | pimlottc: i see your point |
| 08:07:09 | LinusN | and i agree that many people would like it that way |
| 08:07:19 | pimlottc | I don't disagree with your view that 'where am i is where i want to be and track changes shouldn't affect that' |
| 08:07:20 | LinusN | i might even like it |
| 08:07:31 | pimlottc | just the the stop-play issue is unfriendly |
| 08:07:49 | LinusN | for those who are used to winamp and stuff |
| 08:08:34 | LinusN | so what should we call the option? |
| 08:08:38 | pimlottc | heh |
| 08:08:59 | LinusN | "Follow playlist" |
| 08:09:17 | pimlottc | decent |
| 08:09:28 | pimlottc | Follow Playlist for consistancy :) |
| 08:09:30 | LinusN | or, if it is supposed to be the default behaviour, "Browse independently" |
| 08:10:00 | pimlottc | ugh 2 am |
| 08:10:09 | pimlottc | you swedes are not helping me get to sleep |
| 08:10:16 | LinusN | :-) |
| 08:10:29 | * | Bagder tries to look innocent |
| 08:10:34 | pimlottc | never around in the day time.. |
| 08:10:39 | hardeep | hmmmm, "Follow Playlist" is still confusing... what's following the playlist? =) |
| 08:10:41 | LinusN | we are vampires |
| 08:10:42 | pimlottc | my day time at least |
| 08:10:58 | pimlottc | hardeep - it's under "File View" so that should tip you off |
| 08:11:24 | pimlottc | 'file view follows playlist' |
| 08:11:38 | LinusN | nice and long :-) |
| 08:11:54 | pimlottc | no I mean that's what you should think when you see "follow playlist" |
| 08:12:20 | LinusN | sounds ok to me |
| 08:12:29 | hardeep | hmmm, yeah, that makes sense |
| 08:13:14 | hardeep | i bet we still get a bunch of questions though. :) |
| 08:13:41 | pimlottc | alright good night scandanavians |
| 08:13:46 | LinusN | pimlottc: sleep tight |
| 08:13:47 | Bagder | night pimlottc |
| 08:14:23 | pimlottc | and assorted others |
| 08:14:46 | hardeep | ah yes, i'm proud to be an "assorted other" !! |
| 08:15:18 | * | Bagder chuckles |
| 08:15:42 | pimlottc | well I can't tell where you're at when you're on a free shell account :P |
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| 08:16:32 | adi|home | "its my.. precccciiiooouuss..." |
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| 08:16:40 | NJoin | fraggle [0] (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) |
| 08:16:40 | NJoin | Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) |
| 08:17:19 | hardeep | okay, so we happy with "Follow Playlist" ? |
| 08:18:35 | LinusN | i buy that |
| 08:19:04 | LinusN | (people will say "but i am not playing a playlist, i am playing a directory") |
| 08:19:35 | Bagder | "follow the song that wps is playing, be it playlist or directory" |
| 08:19:38 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 08:58:34 | Schnueff | moin |
| 08:59:28 | LinusN | helo |
| 08:59:52 | Schnueff | its 10:00 where u are, right? |
| 08:59:58 | LinusN | 9:00 |
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| 09:00:02 | Schnueff | uh |
| 09:00:16 | Schnueff | early up |
| 09:00:47 | LinusN | hehe, a guy from US called me 4:00 this morning |
| 09:01:13 | Schnueff | called = on phone? |
| 09:01:17 | LinusN | yup |
| 09:01:19 | Schnueff | hehe thats not good |
| 09:01:29 | LinusN | i told him to mail me instead |
| 09:01:32 | Schnueff | question bout rockbox or smth serious? :) |
| 09:01:44 | Schnueff | heh |
| 09:01:54 | LinusN | serious, as in work |
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| 09:21:50 | bobTHC | good morning all! |
| 09:22:29 | LinusN | morn |
| 09:22:30 | Schnueff | moin |
| 09:27:29 | adi|home | LinusN: its nearly 4 am here.. if you want.. you can call me and get even ;) |
| 09:31:01 | LinusN | haha |
| 09:41:01 | LinusN | winamp can't handle mp3 file names that start with a # |
| 09:41:08 | LinusN | in playlists |
| 09:41:38 | LinusN | i can't see how it coule either |
| 09:41:41 | LinusN | could |
| 09:43:46 | Schnueff | # is comment sign isnt it? |
| 09:44:04 | LinusN | yes, that's the problem |
| 09:44:10 | Schnueff | what about ./#somefile.mp3 ? |
| 09:44:25 | Schnueff | or rather .\#somefile.mp3 ? |
| 09:44:25 | LinusN | a guy had a file called #34.mp3 and couldn't play it in rockbox |
| 09:44:50 | LinusN | ./ is a nice solution |
| 09:44:53 | LinusN | for him |
| 09:45:18 | hardeep | i think his problem was that he couldn't play it for dir browser either |
| 09:45:26 | LinusN | yes it is, i am fixing it now |
| 09:51:52 | LinusN | fixed |
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| 10:12:08 | adi|home | heheh funny... |
| 10:12:12 | adi|home | i was just thinking about this.. |
| 10:12:25 | adi|home | its a Dave matthews song |
| 10:12:26 | adi|home | i have it too |
| 10:12:53 | adi|home | what happens is # is found midline? |
| 10:13:08 | adi|home | or is comment only the _first_ char of the line? |
| 10:13:43 | Hes | the comment parsers i've usually written cut from the first # unless it's preceded by a \ |
| 10:13:53 | Hes | and then ignore empty lines if that's what comes out of it |
| 10:15:01 | LinusN | Winamp comments are only detected if # is the first character |
| 10:16:02 | adi|home | id rather the first char |
| 10:16:09 | adi|home | it makes it easier in this case |
| 10:16:14 | adi|home | ie: if i have a full path |
| 10:16:19 | adi|home | to an mp3 with a # in it |
| 10:16:26 | adi|home | i do'nt want it ignoring that file |
| 10:16:39 | LinusN | if course not |
| 10:16:48 | LinusN | of |
| 10:17:00 | adi|home | hmmm.. here's an idea. |
| 10:17:07 | adi|home | maybe when we load the playlist |
| 10:17:20 | adi|home | we could also state how many mp3's and comments were found |
| 10:17:47 | adi|home | because while ./ is nice |
| 10:17:56 | adi|home | it requires the user to edit by hand :( |
| 10:18:25 | adi|home | hmmm.. what if... |
| 10:18:35 | adi|home | we say.. a comment is any line begining with a '#' |
| 10:18:41 | LinusN | winamp silently discards the comments |
| 10:18:41 | adi|home | but if it ends with .mp3 |
| 10:18:45 | adi|home | we try and load it |
| 10:18:54 | LinusN | what if you want to comment out some files? |
| 10:19:07 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:28:10 | adi|home | well.. my preference would be just to have the user escape the value |
| 10:28:14 | adi|home | \ |
| 10:28:17 | adi|home | rather then ./ |
| 10:28:24 | adi|home | that means current directory to me.. |
| 10:28:36 | adi|home | and that may not be right |
| 10:28:45 | adi|home | assuming i have a dir called #something |
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| 10:30:30 | LinusN | i think we should be compatible with winamp playlists |
| 10:30:35 | LinusN | and we are now |
| 10:31:14 | Schnueff | ./#something/file.mp3 whats wrong with that ? |
| 10:31:46 | adi|home | well.. my biggest problem is that i don't like having to edit my playlists by hand... |
| 10:31:51 | adi|home | but im just biased that way ;) |
| 10:32:06 | Schnueff | hm |
| 10:32:25 | LinusN | then you should rename your files, or change your script that generates the playlists |
| 10:32:43 | adi|home | well it hasn't been a problem to me silly ;) |
| 10:33:13 | adi|home | has anyone tested the # file on winamp? |
| 10:33:18 | adi|home | does it just skip the file? |
| 10:33:18 | LinusN | i have |
| 10:33:22 | LinusN | it skips it |
| 10:33:53 | LinusN | We should call that dave matthews guy and tell him how to name his songs |
| 10:33:53 | Schnueff | if u try to generate a playlist with that file in winamp, it just stores #34.mp3 ? |
| 10:34:04 | LinusN | lemme see |
| 10:36:31 | LinusN | #EXTM3U |
| 10:36:31 | LinusN | #EXTINF:-1,#43 |
| 10:36:31 | LinusN | #43.mp3 |
| 10:36:38 | Schnueff | hehe |
| 10:36:47 | LinusN | whaddafuck is #EXTINF? |
| 10:37:07 | Schnueff | dunno |
| 10:37:13 | Schnueff | does it load correctly though? |
| 10:38:52 | Schnueff | 'extended m3u files' |
| 10:38:53 | Schnueff | hm |
| 10:39:58 | Schnueff | "Extended .m3u files contain additional information, such as the length of the song and data from the ID3 tag." |
| 10:41:49 | Hes | Hey, i did a test drive to the office - it didn't skip at all. It might be luck, but i'll do some more driving today and a lot during the weekend. |
| 10:42:55 | adi|home | linus.. wanna give me an opinion on something? |
| 10:43:01 | adi|home | playlist.c:335 |
| 10:43:06 | adi|home | the for loop |
| 10:43:06 | LinusN | adi|home: sure |
| 10:44:16 | LinusN | adi|home: the randomize? |
| 10:46:53 | adi|home | im thinking.. the comment check.. |
| 10:46:53 | adi|home | woulding it make more sense to have that only inside the successful CR check? |
| 10:46:53 | adi|home | i mean.. it comment is to only be on the first char? |
| 10:46:53 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK adi|home |
| 10:46:53 | adi|home | then we can drop the && store_index check |
| 10:46:56 | adi|home | cause its already set |
| 10:46:58 | adi|home | and its also on less check on _every_ char in the playlist |
| 10:47:06 | adi|home | does lcd_updaterect work on the player yet? |
| 10:48:20 | adi|home | hmm? |
| 10:49:06 | adi|home | the for loop starting on line 332 in the playlist.c |
| 10:51:07 | LinusN | sorry, i was looking in the wrong version of playlist.c |
| 10:51:20 | LinusN | the store_index variable should ba a boolean imho |
| 10:52:03 | LinusN | the comment check could be moved to line 349 |
| 10:52:45 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:52:51 | adi|home | that would make more sense no? |
| 10:53:03 | LinusN | definitely |
| 10:55:00 | adi|home | a continue inside that if |
| 10:55:06 | adi|home | just that break out to the for |
| 10:55:10 | adi|home | or just out of the if/ |
| 10:55:12 | adi|home | the for yes? |
| 10:55:15 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 10:55:15 | * | adi|home is tired |
| 10:56:17 | LinusN | or just an if/else |
| 10:56:36 | adi|home | yeah.. but we get a bit to much nesting at that piont for my taste ;)( |
| 10:56:36 | LinusN | if(!comment) {store} |
| 10:56:45 | adi|home | all the other if/else become over more |
| 10:56:59 | adi|home | join #spam for a sec |
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| 11:16:10 | LinusN | adi|home: don't use TAB's |
| 11:16:21 | adi|home | i wasn't.. where are they? |
| 11:16:39 | LinusN | store_index = false; |
| 11:16:49 | adi|home | grrrrrr... damnit |
| 11:16:52 | adi|home | it was a quick edit.. |
| 11:16:56 | adi|home | so i went into vi |
| 11:16:57 | adi|home | lol |
| 11:17:11 | LinusN | you don't need to initialize the bool to true either |
| 11:17:21 | adi|home | force of habit |
| 11:17:41 | LinusN | and the old ont set it to 0 |
| 11:17:54 | LinusN | so it should have been false |
| 11:17:59 | adi|home | right.. then 4 lines later set it to 1 |
| 11:18:10 | adi|home | which would be wrong |
| 11:18:19 | adi|home | because if the store_index = true; |
| 11:18:22 | adi|home | gets deleted |
| 11:18:26 | adi|home | we break |
| 11:18:27 | LinusN | so just don't init it |
| 11:18:57 | adi|home | can i get some bread with that whine ;) |
| 11:20:09 | adi|home | fixed |
| 11:21:20 | adi|home | ummm are MAX_PATH and PLAYLIST_BUFFER_SIZE |
| 11:21:33 | adi|home | what are the chances they will/are the same size? |
| 11:22:22 | adi|home | nm |
| 11:22:26 | adi|home | didn't page ahead |
| 11:24:57 | adi|home | hmmm.. it looks like lcd_update() is just #defined in the case of the Player. |
| 11:25:03 | adi|home | so how is the screen actually updated? |
| 11:27:01 | LinusN | it is updated instantaneously |
| 11:27:09 | LinusN | no frame buffer |
| 11:27:13 | adi|home | ahhh.. |
| 11:27:21 | adi|home | so... theoretically... |
| 11:27:48 | adi|home | replacing lcd_updates() with lcd-update-rect shouldn't affect the player at all. |
| 11:29:51 | LinusN | no |
| 11:30:42 | LinusN | you didn't remove all TAB's |
| 11:30:53 | LinusN | :-) |
| 11:31:16 | adi|home | what? |
| 11:31:17 | adi|home | damnit... |
| 11:32:13 | adi|home | okay.. what line? |
| 11:32:24 | adi|home | i don't see it |
| 11:33:26 | LinusN | ending curly brace of if(playlist.in_ram || (*p != '#')) |
| 11:33:49 | LinusN | sorry, ending brace of if(!playlist.in_ram) { |
| 11:33:53 | adi|home | nods |
| 11:34:08 | adi|home | thats odd that emacs didn't catch it.. |
| 11:34:09 | adi|home | hmmm |
| 11:36:28 | LinusN | m-x untabify |
| 11:36:53 | LinusN | hehe, i can change the pitch on the recorder |
| 11:37:07 | adi|home | i use indenty |
| 11:37:09 | LinusN | works like a charm |
| 11:37:11 | adi|home | fix the functions that way... |
| 11:37:15 | adi|home | odd it didn't convert |
| 11:37:37 | LinusN | it doesn't convert if the indentation is at the correct level |
| 11:37:55 | adi|home | ahh.. okay.. |
| 11:38:13 | adi|home | know what sucks about lcd_updat_rect? |
| 11:38:18 | adi|home | working with text |
| 11:38:28 | adi|home | because you can't ensure the font height |
| 11:38:37 | adi|home | w/o getting font info... |
| 11:38:42 | LinusN | of course |
| 11:38:56 | adi|home | but i just wonder what is worse... |
| 11:39:01 | LinusN | is that lcd_update_rects() fault? :-) |
| 11:39:03 | adi|home | getting the font size when you need it.. |
| 11:39:14 | adi|home | or call ing lcd_update all the time |
| 11:39:34 | adi|home | well.. it would be nice to have an lcd_update_string or lcd_update_line |
| 11:39:36 | adi|home | or something |
| 11:39:40 | adi|home | give it an x, y |
| 11:39:49 | adi|home | and it only updates the font size for that line |
| 11:40:01 | LinusN | lcd_update_string is not good |
| 11:40:24 | LinusN | then ut would have to call getfontsize for every update |
| 11:40:45 | LinusN | call getfontsize once, and then lcd_update_rect for every line to update |
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| 11:41:13 | adi|home | nods |
| 11:41:20 | adi|home | what might make more sense |
| 11:41:28 | adi|home | is to have the font size figured out in global space |
| 11:41:34 | adi|home | when the firmware ends loading |
| 11:41:45 | LinusN|lunch | why? you can change font anytime |
| 11:41:52 | LinusN|lunch | dynamically |
| 11:42:07 | adi|home | and following that logic ;) |
| 11:42:09 | LinusN|lunch | and even have several fonts loaded |
| 11:42:13 | adi|home | <LinusN> lcd_update_string is not good |
| 11:42:14 | adi|home | <LinusN> then ut would have to call getfontsize for every update |
| 11:42:17 | adi|home | is still true.. |
| 11:42:25 | adi|home | :) |
| 11:42:37 | adi|home | you can't just 'call getfontsize once' |
| 11:42:45 | adi|home | because it may be diff at any time you call update |
| 11:42:48 | LinusN|lunch | yes, in the beginning of your function |
| 11:43:06 | LinusN|lunch | for example, when entering wps |
| 11:43:21 | LinusN|lunch | the font will be the same until you leave wps |
| 11:43:38 | LinusN|lunch | gotta go |
| 11:43:41 | adi|home | is that guarenteed? |
| 11:43:43 | adi|home | later... |
| 11:43:48 | adi|home | i need sleep anyways |
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| 13:08:31 | notch | dropped my laptop last week... |
| 13:08:44 | notch | screen went all screwey :-( |
| 13:09:30 | notch | Even though it was 5yo my insurance company just bought me a new one. Who hoo! |
| 13:10:15 | * | notch is stoked... |
| 13:21:28 | PsycoXul | LinusN|lunch: i had the thing where it stops and clears the WPS again, on a playlist in shuffle mode, with resume off |
| 13:22:31 | PsycoXul | LinusN|lunch: and also when it does it, pressing next in the blank WPS will go to the next track just fine and fill the WPS back in like normal |
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| 13:32:18 | LinusN | PsycoXul: does it work when you push Back again? |
| 13:33:54 | PsycoXul | i'll check next time |
| 13:35:30 | LinusN | good |
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| 13:43:09 | elinenbe | bagder: are you reading through the new font code? |
| 13:43:15 | Bagder | not yet |
| 13:43:18 | Bagder | I'm about to |
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| 14:06:44 | elinenbe | Bagder: have you gotten Greg's font stuff to load? |
| 14:06:49 | Bagder | no |
| 14:07:19 | elinenbe | it compiles here with about 500 warnings, and then when the jukebox starts up, it just shuts off after about 15 seconds. |
| 14:08:56 | Bagder | now it works |
| 14:09:11 | elinenbe | Bagder: what was the deal? |
| 14:09:32 | Bagder | I didn't use propfonts ;-) |
| 14:09:59 | elinenbe | ahhh... mine works too, but only with the installed default font. |
| 14:10:16 | elinenbe | if I put a system.fnt into the root of the archos, it hangs |
| 14:10:38 | Bagder | oh right |
| 14:10:42 | Bagder | it ignores my font file |
| 14:10:57 | elinenbe | on mine it just ... shuts off! |
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| 14:11:09 | Bagder | I didn't try on target, only in sim yet |
| 14:11:12 | LinusN | hi Zagor |
| 14:11:21 | elinenbe | hello Zagor. |
| 14:11:29 | elinenbe | Bagder: I am on target |
| 14:11:31 | Bagder | the font converter program is a bit inconvenient |
| 14:12:47 | Zagor | LinusN: it struck me that ON+PLAY should hold playback (pause on press and resume on release) |
| 14:13:35 | elinenbe | I am on a win box, and I don't have perl on this, so I will either have to go to myt linux boc, or I will have to install perl on here. |
| 14:14:07 | LinusN | Zagor: what? |
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| 14:15:14 | Zagor | LinusN: as complement to the pitching |
| 14:15:24 | Zagor | hold is very useful for beat mixing |
| 14:16:18 | Bagder | snow doesn't work in the sim |
| 14:16:46 | Zagor | Bagder: that's because it exits on keypress and the sim sends two for each key |
| 14:16:47 | LinusN | Zagor: aha, in the DJ-WPS |
| 14:16:51 | Hes | Zagor & Linus: Hey, i did a test drive to the office - it didn't skip at all. It might be luck, but i'll do some more driving today and a lot during the weekend. |
| 14:16:52 | Zagor | LinusN: right |
| 14:17:07 | Hes | So the relaxed sleeping might have helped. |
| 14:17:08 | Zagor | Hes: nice! |
| 14:20:40 | LinusN | Zagor: i guess there is no need to store the pitch in RTC |
| 14:21:02 | Zagor | LinusN: no |
| 14:21:17 | LinusN | so we have pitch control only in the DJ-WPS? |
| 14:22:25 | Zagor | why a special dj-wps? just use ON+UP/DOWN in the standard wps. |
| 14:22:32 | LinusN | ok |
| 14:23:07 | LinusN | a dj must have audible feedback on rew/ffw |
| 14:23:43 | LinusN | we must develop a jog-wheel remote control |
| 14:23:47 | Zagor | :-) |
| 14:23:55 | LinusN | that would be cool |
| 14:27:05 | LinusN | pitch control committed, mpeg_set_pitch() |
| 14:27:24 | LinusN | any WPS guy that wants to use it? |
| 14:28:03 | LinusN | works onlt on MAS3587F |
| 14:28:06 | LinusN | only |
| 14:28:12 | Zagor | i'll fix the wps if you don't |
| 14:28:18 | LinusN | thanx |
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| 14:29:57 | LinusN | i think some people will like us for adding pitch control |
| 14:30:30 | elinenbe|out | LinusN: what is the percentage that we can change the pitch? |
| 14:35:04 | Bagder | you guys ready for a huuuuuuuge commit? ;-) |
| 14:35:15 | Zagor | Bagder: fonts? |
| 14:35:21 | Bagder | jawohl |
| 14:35:28 | Schnueff | hehe |
| 14:35:35 | Zagor | Bagder: i'm strapped in |
| 14:35:42 | Bagder | hm |
| 14:35:43 | Schnueff | ..eyes closed |
| 14:35:45 | LinusN | elinenbe|out: +/- 100% |
| 14:35:58 | Bagder | uh, it'll take a while more, I better run it on target first |
| 14:36:18 | Schnueff | and -100% = half freq ? |
| 14:36:31 | Zagor | -100% sounds like "stop" to me :-) |
| 14:36:34 | Schnueff | or 0 freq |
| 14:36:55 | Schnueff | k:) |
| 14:38:45 | LinusN | Zagor: it is |
| 14:38:59 | LinusN | but i didn't bother to set any limits |
| 14:39:14 | Zagor | LinusN: limits are silly |
| 14:39:25 | LinusN | yup |
| 14:39:25 | Zagor | if someone wants to hear it at 1% speed, let him |
| 14:39:33 | LinusN | precisely |
| 14:42:47 | Bagder | works! |
| 14:43:04 | Bagder | or perhaps "sort of works" ;-) |
| 14:43:18 | Bagder | the menu gets all funky with a courier14 font |
| 14:43:39 | LinusN | funky? |
| 14:43:43 | Bagder | wrong |
| 14:43:46 | Zagor | LinusN: is the parameter 0-200 or -100 to +100 ? |
| 14:43:55 | LinusN | -100 - +100 |
| 14:43:58 | Zagor | ok |
| 14:44:01 | Bagder | LinusN: the cursor could disappear down the bottom of the screen ;-) |
| 14:44:02 | LinusN | but no checking is done |
| 14:49:53 | Bagder | shall I remove all LCD_PROPFONTS checks? |
| 14:50:28 | LinusN | Bagder: not like that |
| 14:50:50 | LinusN | well, why not? |
| 14:50:54 | LinusN | go for it |
| 14:51:02 | LinusN | let's break the build!!!! |
| 14:51:07 | Bagder | hehe |
| 14:53:06 | Bagder | actually, the build should still be ok |
| 14:56:43 | Zagor | Bagder: yes, remove all font conditionals |
| 14:57:06 | Bagder | done that now |
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| 15:09:50 | LinusN | Bagder: remember, the ultimate check is the time setting menu |
| 15:11:27 | Bagder | hehe |
| 15:11:34 | Bagder | this breaks more things than that ;-) |
| 15:11:48 | LinusN | i'm not surprised |
| 15:25:58 | LinusN | time to go. bye all! |
| 15:26:03 | Zagor | bye |
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| 15:27:14 | Bagder | perhaps we should set a cvs tag |
| 15:27:19 | Bagder | pre-font |
| 15:27:32 | Zagor | wuss ;) |
| 15:27:43 | Zagor | does it break that much? |
| 15:28:08 | Bagder | not that I know of |
| 15:28:14 | Bagder | but setting a tag is easy ;-) |
| 15:28:24 | Zagor | yup. go ahead. |
| 15:29:01 | Bagder | I'll name it 'prefont' |
| 15:29:05 | Zagor | ok |
| 15:29:09 | Bagder | doesn't say much but we'll know what it is |
| 15:29:49 | Bagder | uuh |
| 15:29:52 | Bagder | can you do it? |
| 15:30:02 | Bagder | I've already done 'cvs add' on a few files |
| 15:30:06 | Bagder | so it complains |
| 15:30:34 | Zagor | ok |
| 15:30:35 | Bagder | "cvs tag prefont firmware apps tools" |
| 15:30:37 | Bagder | should be enough |
| 15:31:46 | Zagor | tagged |
| 15:31:52 | Bagder | btw, this is still one single lcd.c |
| 15:32:03 | Zagor | that's good |
| 15:32:13 | Zagor | the split should be a separate patch |
| 15:33:54 | Bagder | commit |
| 15:36:53 | Zagor | hmm, should really getstringsize have a font parameter? |
| 15:37:04 | Zagor | won't it be the same always? |
| 15:37:14 | Bagder | well, his system introduces a few different fonts |
| 15:37:42 | Zagor | oh boy... |
| 15:39:03 | Zagor | is there really a point to having separate fonts? |
| 15:39:22 | Bagder | well, there's a point in having at least one smaller for the status bar |
| 15:39:44 | Zagor | sure, the same used as fallback if the loadable can't be found |
| 15:39:50 | Zagor | i'm more thinking about the api |
| 15:40:03 | Zagor | i don't like specifying font for all calls |
| 15:40:09 | Bagder | true |
| 15:43:19 | Zagor | ugh, the fallback font isn't very pretty :-) |
| 15:43:25 | Bagder | nope |
| 15:43:37 | Bagder | but it should be fairly easy to replace |
| 15:43:43 | Zagor | yeah |
| 15:43:54 | pimlottc | you mean the lcd font? |
| 15:43:58 | Bagder | we have some work to do though, as his code seems to rotate the bitmap run-time |
| 15:44:10 | Zagor | oh |
| 15:44:29 | Zagor | pimlottc: yes |
| 15:44:37 | pimlottc | :/ |
| 15:44:39 | Bagder | Zagor: I'll mail him about it, it seems like such a waste |
| 15:44:44 | pimlottc | some of us have to live with that font |
| 15:44:59 | Zagor | pimlottc: i'm talking about the new recorder font code |
| 15:45:13 | pimlottc | I know |
| 15:45:29 | pimlottc | just that you don't have to insult our (player's) only font :~( |
| 15:45:29 | Zagor | there's not much there we have to live with :-) |
| 15:45:55 | * | pimlottc stands on a soapbox |
| 15:46:02 | pimlottc | Equal rights for Players! |
| 15:46:03 | pimlottc | Equal rights for Players! |
| 15:46:06 | * | pimlottc gets off |
| 15:46:07 | Zagor | I didn't. I was talking about the font Greg included as default in the recorder code. it's not the same. |
| 15:46:11 | pimlottc | :) |
| 15:47:07 | Zagor | Bagder: did you get a bdf2fnt.pl ? |
| 15:47:27 | Bagder | bdf2fnt yes |
| 15:47:47 | Bagder | its a bash script |
| 15:48:18 | Bagder | it invokes the bdf2c which is a perl script |
| 15:49:10 | Zagor | did you check it in? it's not in the tools module. |
| 15:49:16 | Bagder | ah right |
| 15:49:58 | Bagder | there |
| 15:55:35 | Zagor | the font converter is... erratic |
| 15:55:54 | Bagder | yes |
| 15:56:27 | Bagder | ls -l helvR08.fnt |
| 15:56:27 | Bagder | -rw-r−−r−− 1 daniel daniel 59524 Sep 12 14:01 helvR08.fnt |
| 15:56:29 | Zagor | I can't convert a single font |
| 15:56:29 | Bagder | ! |
| 15:56:38 | Zagor | Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at ./bdf2c line 155, <BDF> line 2647. |
| 15:56:38 | Zagor | Use of uninitialized value in array element at ./bdf2c line 153, <BDF> line 2647. |
| 15:56:42 | Zagor | repeating forever |
| 15:57:16 | Bagder | weird, I get that too |
| 15:57:24 | Bagder | I managed to get that .fnt once |
| 15:58:08 | Bagder | aah |
| 15:58:11 | Bagder | I broke it I guess |
| 15:58:23 | Zagor | i should have guessed ;) |
| 15:58:34 | Bagder | ok, first I missed a C file |
| 15:58:40 | Bagder | adding it now |
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| 16:01:28 | Zagor | tools/configure needs updating too |
| 16:01:32 | Bagder | yes |
| 16:03:57 | Bagder | update now |
| 16:04:05 | Bagder | seems to work here |
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| 16:17:39 | notch | which routine specifies the font size? |
| 16:18:11 | Bagder | lcd_getfontsize |
| 16:22:22 | notch | It it easy to change the font size? Done in font.c? |
| 16:23:38 | Bagder | system.fnt in your root ;-) |
| 16:24:02 | Bagder | if you're using the latest CVS |
| 16:26:44 | notch | just done cvs update -dP, cant find system.fnt ? any ideas? |
| 16:27:06 | Bagder | yes, there is no default one (yet) |
| 16:27:24 | notch | ahh.. so wait for one... |
| 16:27:40 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-09/att-0494/01-rockbox-fonts.tar.gz |
| 16:27:45 | Bagder | pick a font from that |
| 16:28:17 | notch | cheers :-)) |
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| 16:29:24 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 16:29:52 | TotMacher | can i load these |
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| 17:11:49 | RipnetUK | Hi, the new work on the fonts looks good, but can I ask a q please? there seems to be confusion about the file extension of font files - should they be called .fnt or .ajf? the utility in tools seems to be called bdf2fnt but the makefile needs bdf2 |
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| 17:12:34 | Bagder | the ajf is obsolete now |
| 17:12:46 | Bagder | .fnt is the king |
| 17:13:50 | RipnetUK | ok, also, may i ask why the conversion programs in the cvs are binaries, with no source.. just interested |
| 17:14:17 | Bagder | they're not, they're a shell script and a perl script |
| 17:14:31 | Bagder | not good enough anyway, I know |
| 17:14:43 | RipnetUK | doh! thanks |
| 17:14:45 | Bagder | it'll take a little time to get everything this sorted out |
| 17:15:38 | Bagder | have to go |
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| 17:25:51 | notch | whoa |
| 17:26:26 | * | notch might quit and join too! :-) |
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| 18:15:06 | elinenbe|out | ne1 here? |
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| 18:28:10 | elinenbe | hello? |
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| 18:40:09 | dwihno|gone | Are there some simpler way to read the CVS changelog to sum all the changes from yesterday? |
| 18:47:03 | quelsaruk | cu |
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| 21:58:27 | edx | hmmm .. what's that website where you can look up (nearly) any file formwat? |
| 21:59:32 | edx | got it (wotsit.org) |
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| 22:50:35 | BoD[] | youhou !!! |
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| 22:53:49 | noalavida | hello |
| 22:54:02 | BoD[] | hi! |
| 22:54:47 | noalavida | i've a problem compiling rockbox under win32 |
| 22:55:51 | noalavida | do you know something about this? |
| 22:57:24 | BoD[] | sorry i can't help |
| 22:57:33 | BoD[] | i'm useless ;) |
| 22:57:36 | noalavida | any way, thanl you |
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| 22:59:08 | noalavida | this chanel is not very active, isn't it? |
| 22:59:23 | BoD[] | sometimes it is |
| 22:59:28 | BoD[] | sometimes not |
| 22:59:49 | noalavida | maybe the time... |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:07 | BoD[] | well |
| 23:00:13 | BoD[] | maybe |
| 23:00:34 | noalavida | any way, can i talk with you about the rockbox? |
| 23:03:59 | BoD[] | well you can :) |
| 23:04:14 | BoD[] | what is there to say |
| 23:06:15 | noalavida | i've noticed tha when i plug the ajbr to an speaker, these disturbs a litle |
| 23:06:36 | BoD[] | like what ? |
| 23:07:45 | noalavida | i haven't speak english very well, so it's dificult to me decribe it acurally |
| 23:08:27 | BoD[] | well I don't speak it neither :) |
| 23:08:29 | noalavida | but i fell that the archos firmware works betters when using speakers |
| 23:09:02 | BoD[] | what model of archos do you have ? |
| 23:09:11 | noalavida | ajbr6k |
| 23:09:36 | noalavida | however y prefer the rockbox firmware when i use headphones |
| 23:09:42 | BoD[] | well I have a recorder 20 myself |
| 23:10:14 | BoD[] | and never had any problem with the sound... but i've read on the mailing list that some sound problem were fixed when using rockbox on other models |
| 23:10:29 | BoD[] | cant remember if the recorder 6 was concerned by this... |
| 23:11:23 | noalavida | yes, i've read this too, but i've never have problems with the sound quality, it's only a detail |
| 23:12:13 | BoD[] | well :) |
| 23:12:22 | BoD[] | i dont know then |
| 23:12:41 | BoD[] | maybe it just comes from the sound setting |
| 23:12:53 | BoD[] | but all this is subjective |
| 23:13:40 | noalavida | i thought this too, but i probed with differents configurations and this is not the cause |
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| 23:15:10 | BoD[] | hmm |
| 23:15:14 | BoD[] | well |
| 23:15:20 | BoD[] | strange |
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| 23:20:05 | Lowfiler | noalavida? |
| 23:21:39 | BoD[] | why not |
| 23:23:16 | noalavida | yes |
| 23:23:26 | Lowfiler | you want to compile? |
| 23:25:00 | noalavida | yes |
| 23:25:16 | Lowfiler | load gnu-sh |
| 23:25:27 | Lowfiler | and type: make -f win32.mak |
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| 23:25:49 | noalavida | i do it , but it gives me an error |
| 23:26:18 | Lowfiler | which one |
| 23:26:29 | noalavida | this error 5 times: ./tree.o(.text+0x278): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:26:59 | Lowfiler | wait 1 sec |
| 23:27:04 | noalavida | but in diferents files |
| 23:27:39 | noalavida | ./tree.o: In function `showdir': |
| 23:27:45 | noalavida | ./tree.o(.text+0x278): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:27:45 | noalavida | ../firmware\librockbox.a(id3.o): In function `setid3v2title': |
| 23:27:45 | noalavida | id3.o(.text+0x308): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:27:45 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK noalavida |
| 23:27:45 | noalavida | id3.o(.text+0x3c4): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:27:45 | noalavida | ../firmware\librockbox.a(id3.o): In function `getid3v2len': |
| 23:27:45 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 23:27:45 | noalavida | id3.o(.text+0x460): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:27:47 | noalavida | ../firmware\librockbox.a(id3.o): In function `getid3v1len': |
| 23:27:49 | noalavida | id3.o(.text+0x4cc): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:27:51 | noalavida | make: *** [archos.elf] Error 1 |
| 23:28:18 | BoD[] | this is not necessary ;) |
| 23:28:37 | noalavida | what? |
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| 23:28:57 | Lowfiler | did u change somethin |
| 23:29:16 | Lowfiler | or renamed |
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| 23:31:16 | noalavida | no |
| 23:31:37 | Lowfiler | no errors here |
| 23:32:26 | Lowfiler | try to clean your cvs directory (or build directory) and check them out again |
| 23:32:45 | noalavida | but what's memcmp, it's related with the firmware or with the libraries? |
| 23:33:03 | BoD[] | i'm sure it's more a lib problem |
| 23:33:11 | Lowfiler | think so 2 |
| 23:33:31 | Lowfiler | re-check your cvs files after cleaning your directories |
| 23:34:04 | noalavida | i've download a gz.tar file from the daily builds page |
| 23:34:44 | noalavida | i've not use cvs |
| 23:34:58 | noalavida | i don't use cvs |
| 23:35:33 | Lowfiler | hmm |
| 23:35:43 | Lowfiler | where u from? |
| 23:36:14 | noalavida | spain, but it is important? |
| 23:37:45 | pimlottc | try adding "#include <memory.h>" to the top of firwmare/id3.c |
| 23:37:46 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 23:37:56 | noalavida | ok |
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| 23:39:22 | noalavida | now i get this error: |
| 23:39:31 | noalavida | ./tree.o: In function `showdir': |
| 23:39:33 | noalavida | ./tree.o(.text+0x278): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:39:33 | noalavida | ../firmware\librockbox.a(id3.o): In function `setid3v2title': |
| 23:39:33 | noalavida | id3.o(.text+0x308): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:39:33 | noalavida | id3.o(.text+0x3c4): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:39:33 | noalavida | ../firmware\librockbox.a(id3.o): In function `getid3v2len': |
| 23:39:33 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 23:39:33 | noalavida | id3.o(.text+0x460): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:39:35 | noalavida | ../firmware\librockbox.a(id3.o): In function `getid3v1len': |
| 23:39:37 | noalavida | id3.o(.text+0x4cc): undefined reference to `memcmp' |
| 23:39:39 | noalavida | make: *** [archos.elf] Error 1 |
| 23:39:42 | Lowfiler | strange error |
| 23:39:42 | noalavida | not this, sorry |
| 23:39:56 | hardeep | noalavida: the problem is because you're using gcc 3.1 |
| 23:40:03 | noalavida | id3.c:30:20: memory.h: No such file or directory |
| 23:40:06 | noalavida | make[1]: *** [id3.o] Error 1 |
| 23:40:06 | noalavida | make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/rockbox/firmware' |
| 23:40:06 | noalavida | make: *** [librockbox.a] Error 2 |
| 23:40:35 | noalavida | i downloaded the latest version of gnush |
| 23:40:38 | hardeep | the fix is to compile with "-fno-builtin" |
| 23:40:55 | hardeep | noalavida: yeah, the latest gnush moved to gcc 3.1 |
| 23:40:57 | pimlottc | get rid of that line you added first |
| 23:42:38 | hardeep | noalavida: see http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-08/0790.shtml |
| 23:42:56 | noalavida | ok |
| 23:44:16 | noalavida | then i've to add this option in each line of the make file that calls to the compiler? |
| 23:45:32 | BoD[] | i go to bed ! |
| 23:45:34 | BoD[] | see you bye |
| 23:45:43 | | Quit BoD[] ("AL LALA") |
| 23:45:46 | noalavida | see you |
| 23:46:10 | hardeep | noalavida: there are only two makefiles for gnush: firmware/win32.mak and apps/win32.mak |
| 23:46:22 | hardeep | modify those two and you should be good |
| 23:49:01 | noalavida | i'm go to trying |
| 23:49:34 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 23:58:42 | noalavida | ok, the problem is solved |
| 23:58:47 | noalavida | very thank you |
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