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| 08:18:08 | Bagder | hm |
| 08:21:44 | Zagor | hm? |
| 08:22:12 | * | mecraw12 scratches his head |
| 08:22:26 | Bagder | I just noted the memcpy edx added |
| 08:22:32 | Bagder | memcmp |
| 08:23:02 | Zagor | right. i'm partly to blame for that. I didn't remember we had solved it with -ffreestanding |
| 08:23:32 | Bagder | aha |
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| 08:39:39 | hardeep | howdy |
| 08:39:45 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 08:45:34 | * | Bagder adds .lang files to cvs |
| 08:45:51 | hardeep | May the force be with you |
| 08:45:56 | Bagder | :-) |
| 08:46:19 | Bagder | it's mainly still just showing the concept |
| 08:46:54 | hardeep | blah, why doesn't everyone just use english... makes everyone's life easier!! =) |
| 08:52:57 | Zagor | Bagder: you're implementing it bad. use a string array instead, like i wrote in my mail. |
| 08:53:16 | Bagder | my point is that since we generate that stuff, we can change that anytime |
| 08:53:27 | Bagder | of course it'll change |
| 08:53:46 | Zagor | yes, but this makes florian (and others) very confused, since I explicitly said this is not how it will work :-) |
| 08:54:23 | Bagder | ok then, but then I need to generate a .c file too |
| 08:54:27 | Zagor | yes |
| 08:56:36 | Bagder | shall I generate an enum or use defines? |
| 08:57:07 | Zagor | defines are best, since thre may be "gaps" in the string id sequence |
| 08:57:20 | Bagder | hardly |
| 08:57:24 | Zagor | no? |
| 08:57:28 | Bagder | since I genarate it |
| 08:57:31 | Bagder | oh |
| 08:57:39 | Bagder | right, different targets may not have them all |
| 08:57:53 | Bagder | whatever difference that makes |
| 08:57:55 | Zagor | yeah, that's what I thought. maybe it isn't a problem? |
| 08:58:01 | * | Zagor is confused :) |
| 08:58:11 | Bagder | no, since the gap is there in the enum/define too |
| 08:58:36 | Bagder | I'll use a define for now |
| 08:58:39 | Zagor | make it an ENUM first. it we get problems, we can use defines later |
| 08:58:40 | Zagor | haha |
| 08:58:44 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 08:58:48 | Bagder | ok, enum |
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| 09:06:22 | Schnueff | moin all |
| 09:07:03 | hardeep | evening schnueff |
| 09:07:33 | langhaarrocker | Schnueff: Are you german? |
| 09:07:41 | Schnueff | hardeep: hehe what's your time? |
| 09:07:44 | Schnueff | langhaarrocker: jawohl |
| 09:08:01 | hardeep | hmm, doh, i guess it is morning here now! (12:07 am) |
| 09:08:12 | Schnueff | ok |
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| 09:21:29 | bobTHC | hi all ! |
| 09:22:02 | bobTHC | anyone have a listing of all word displayed in rockbox to start translation work ? |
| 09:25:34 | Bagder | nope |
| 09:25:42 | Bagder | that's still left to fix |
| 09:26:33 | bobTHC | someone works on it ? |
| 09:26:42 | Bagder | no |
| 09:27:02 | Bagder | but we now have the basics to get it started |
| 09:28:28 | bobTHC | ok... if u have it please send me it and i'll start translation... |
| 09:28:54 | Bagder | yes, when it exists we can do that |
| 09:29:06 | bobTHC | thanx |
| 09:30:21 | bobTHC | i can start directly with what i see when i'm browsing menus but it's not in the good order... |
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| 09:37:43 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 09:37:55 | bobTHC | hi ! |
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| 09:40:52 | quelsaruk | Bagder: how is the development of .lang conversion tool? |
| 09:41:10 | Bagder | seems to work fine |
| 09:41:39 | rwood | Zagor: I'm using the player and when I pause before powering off, I don't when it's save to power off - how about turning on the red LED before calling write_sectors - when LED goes off, it's safe to power off. |
| 09:43:47 | quelsaruk | i had some problems with my mail server and i have near 150 mails from rockbox, so i don't know if it's implemented yet.. |
| 09:44:13 | Zagor | rwood: good idea |
| 09:44:34 | rwood | Zagor: seems useful - thanks |
| 09:46:13 | Bagder | quelsaruk: the tool is there, the file format is set, all we need now is to fix the source and provide a "master" file for english |
| 09:47:11 | rwood | Zagor: is there any way to create read errors (other than shaking the hell out of the unit)? - i could work on the read retry next week, if its still on the TODO list |
| 09:47:54 | Zagor | rwood: no there isn't. but you could simply make ata_read fail the first time you call it... :-) |
| 09:49:14 | rwood | Zagor: i'll come up with something - i have a report to get out this week - i'll start on it next week |
| 09:49:16 | Zagor | Bagder: should lang.[ch] always be committed? i thought we should create it compile-time. |
| 09:49:23 | Zagor | rwood: ok |
| 09:49:54 | Bagder | Zagor: right, I'm just not sure how to proceed with that since that'll require perl (atm) |
| 09:50:15 | Bagder | that's why I've committed them so far |
| 09:50:18 | Zagor | ok |
| 09:51:43 | Zagor | either we rewrite genlang in c or we add perl as a required build tool |
| 09:51:52 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:52:13 | hardeep | i don't see any reason why perl can't be a required tool |
| 09:52:20 | Bagder | me neither |
| 09:52:21 | hardeep | it's available for both linux and win32 |
| 09:52:25 | Schnueff | wow 9 lines on display with clR5x6.bdf |
| 09:52:30 | Bagder | rewriting all those little tools in c will be annoying |
| 09:52:41 | Schnueff | and quite readable too :) |
| 09:53:29 | Bagder | Schnueff: coolness ;-) |
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| 09:56:44 | quelsaruk | bagder... i have this mornign free... if you have things to do, i could change agein all strings and use new id names, more related with the text string |
| 09:56:45 | Zagor | so we're adding perl then |
| 09:57:01 | Zagor | quelsaruk: sounds great |
| 09:57:14 | Bagder | quelsaruk: sure, go ahead |
| 09:57:23 | quelsaruk | i did it once.. i suppose this time will be easier |
| 09:57:24 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 09:57:40 | Bagder | quelsaruk: the strings should be fetched with "str(LANG_XXX)" where XXX should be somewhat descriptive |
| 09:59:18 | quelsaruk | bagder: where's the tool? i mean has it been sent to the mail list? |
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| 09:59:26 | Bagder | Zagor: I think so, it won't be that tricky for most of the windows people anyway since many uses cygwin already |
| 09:59:32 | Bagder | quelsaruk: it's in tools |
| 09:59:37 | Bagder | committed to cvs |
| 09:59:47 | quelsaruk | :) |
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| 10:00:44 | quelsaruk | what does *fetched* means? |
| 10:01:09 | Bagder | picked, gotten, received |
| 10:01:15 | quelsaruk | ok |
| 10:01:16 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:06:26 | quelsaruk | bagder, there are some strings translated in main_menu.c. It's that ok? |
| 10:06:45 | Bagder | I've done those as an example on how to proceed |
| 10:07:07 | quelsaruk | ok, so all should fit that standard |
| 10:07:09 | Bagder | check out the lang/english.lang to see how those are written |
| 10:07:55 | quelsaruk | ok |
| 10:08:07 | quelsaruk | getting on it |
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| 10:18:05 | quelsaruk | bagder, there is one "small" problem |
| 10:19:40 | bobTHC | for french.lang, i overwrite the "eng:" line by "fr:" lin or i fill the empty "new:" line ??? |
| 10:20:29 | Zagor | new: |
| 10:20:46 | Zagor | quelsaruk: what is the problem? |
| 10:20:53 | quelsaruk | some strings have a fitted lenght |
| 10:21:01 | quelsaruk | for example in some games |
| 10:21:10 | quelsaruk | we must have that in mind |
| 10:21:27 | Zagor | yes. put that in the comment/description. "must be kept short" or something. |
| 10:21:40 | quelsaruk | ok |
| 10:21:41 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:22:37 | hardeep | hmmm, maybe something a little more descriptive... like "Max 20 chars" |
| 10:22:39 | hardeep | ? |
| 10:22:57 | webmind | morning |
| 10:23:11 | hardeep | good morning webmind |
| 10:23:19 | webmind | sup ? |
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| 10:32:41 | TotM4cher | ahh |
| 10:32:48 | TotM4cher | i want to make the german translation file !! |
| 10:33:13 | Zagor | TotM4cher: wait for quelsaruk to create the first with all the strings, then you can translate |
| 10:33:28 | TotM4cher | ok |
| 10:33:31 | TotM4cher | kewl |
| 10:34:29 | pyvasene | I can be in charge of the french translation if noone is on it yet |
| 10:35:14 | Zagor | good |
| 10:35:20 | bobTHC | i on it yet |
| 10:35:36 | pyvasene | bobTHC : no pb |
| 10:35:40 | Zagor | ah, right. bobTHC got it first :-) |
| 10:35:53 | Schnueff | who will do klingon? |
| 10:35:55 | Schnueff | :) |
| 10:35:56 | bobTHC | ;) help is always welcome |
| 10:36:12 | Zagor | i want "swedish chef". bork bork. |
| 10:36:36 | TotM4cher | hehe |
| 10:36:40 | TotM4cher | i will do l33t too |
| 10:36:50 | pyvasene | bobTHC : Send me your translation once done for validation if you want (pyvasene@free.fr) |
| 10:37:24 | bobTHC | look @ http://www.aix-elan.org/french.lang it's the workfile |
| 10:38:22 | pyvasene | bobTHC : What about the accents ? |
| 10:38:28 | Bagder | just wait for quelsaruk's work first, then you'll have something more to work on |
| 10:38:38 | bobTHC | yp |
| 10:38:53 | Zagor | bobTHC: your LANG_BUFFER_STAT_PLAYER won't fit on the player lcd |
| 10:39:16 | bobTHC | ok i change |
| 10:40:47 | bobTHC | it's hard in 3 letters ! :) |
| 10:43:00 | Zagor | bobTHC, pyvasene: you should use full iso-8859-1 for the french texts |
| 10:43:24 | bobTHC | ok |
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| 10:45:35 | quelsaruk | i must reboot, see you later! |
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| 10:54:20 | bobTHC | zagor : id string are in an order ? |
| 10:54:36 | Zagor | no |
| 10:54:47 | bobTHC | i can add news as i want ? |
| 10:55:08 | Zagor | no. quelsaruk is making the ids. wait for his work. |
| 10:55:20 | bobTHC | no pb |
| 10:55:46 | * | bobTHC is waiting ;) |
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| 11:10:03 | langhaarrocker | Is there a way to detect wether the status bar is really being displayed? I mean global_settings.statusbar just tells you wether it is _enabled_ not wether it is being displayed. |
| 11:10:55 | Zagor | that should be the same thing |
| 11:11:05 | Zagor | what is the problem? |
| 11:11:17 | langhaarrocker | No: while playing a game you don't see the status bar but it still may be enabled. |
| 11:11:30 | Zagor | yes. but why do you want to know? |
| 11:11:40 | Zagor | games don't care about the status bar |
| 11:12:00 | langhaarrocker | The problem is that I made a task that updates peak info in the status bar. That task must be disabled while the status bar is not visible. |
| 11:12:38 | Zagor | you are doing wrong. nobody should draw in the status bar except status.c |
| 11:13:28 | langhaarrocker | I placed the drawing routine is in status.c but the thread calls it. |
| 11:14:02 | langhaarrocker | I don't want to redraw _all_ the status bar just to update 16 pixels |
| 11:14:05 | Zagor | that's your problem. don't call it from a thread. the status bar handling is carefully written to go around exactly your problem |
| 11:14:41 | Zagor | then have conditionals in the status update that only updates changed sections |
| 11:15:39 | langhaarrocker | You mean like passing a parameter to status_draw? |
| 11:15:55 | bobTHC | french ppl : see the francais.lang proof of concept @ http://www.aix-elan.org/francais.lang |
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| 11:16:25 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: no, i mean keep track of the last drawn values. only redraw if new value is different |
| 11:16:44 | Zagor | but you probably don |
| 11:17:05 | Zagor | don't have to do any of that. the status bar is updated pretty often anyway. |
| 11:17:36 | langhaarrocker | But not often enough to make the peak meter useful |
| 11:17:56 | langhaarrocker | I think increasing the general redraw of statusbar is a bad idea |
| 11:18:57 | Zagor | yes, but redrawing it from a thread is even worse. it breaks the design. |
| 11:19:47 | langhaarrocker | Then the only solution I see is not to draw any peak meter at all in the status bar. |
| 11:19:47 | Zagor | if you want to draw more often, conditional drawing is the best approach |
| 11:20:28 | Zagor | i'm not sure peak info should be in the status bar anyway. where do you squeeze it in? |
| 11:20:53 | langhaarrocker | directly behind the volume setting icon. |
| 11:21:08 | langhaarrocker | It's so small it fits neatly |
| 11:21:44 | Zagor | a number or a graph? |
| 11:22:03 | langhaarrocker | two 8 pixels high vertical lines |
| 11:22:09 | Zagor | ok |
| 11:22:19 | Zagor | to the left or right of the volume? |
| 11:22:30 | langhaarrocker | both |
| 11:22:43 | langhaarrocker | thats why it's two pixel wide. |
| 11:23:17 | Zagor | very crowded... |
| 11:23:50 | langhaarrocker | I am a Kraut.. :) |
| 11:23:54 | Zagor | haha |
| 11:23:56 | Schnueff | hehe |
| 11:26:15 | langhaarrocker | Ok: I see this will be a dead and. No peak info in the status bar. I'll investigate wps. But I still will need to redraw using a thread. Will that break design, too? |
| 11:26:40 | Zagor | yes |
| 11:26:52 | langhaarrocker | f%&$ |
| 11:27:04 | Zagor | it's very complex, since we redraw the screen a lot. quickscreens, menus, usb screen, browser etc. |
| 11:29:23 | langhaarrocker | Or might it be better to introduce something completely new? I mean the status bar, the scroll bar, wps and so on are quite compact units. What about installing a volume peak bar at the right side - just like the scroll bar? |
| 11:29:42 | langhaarrocker | No, doesn't change the problem. |
| 11:30:32 | langhaarrocker | What determins that something has to be redrawn? |
| 11:31:39 | Zagor | that's different for each code |
| 11:35:38 | langhaarrocker | Is it ok to break the disign while listening to "Breaking the law?" |
| 11:35:47 | Zagor | :-) |
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| 11:48:16 | quelsaruk | re-hi! |
| 11:50:52 | Zagor | hi. done? |
| 11:51:44 | quelsaruk | nops.. i had to re-compile the kernel to enable ntfs support |
| 11:51:59 | quelsaruk | i needed some files in that hd |
| 11:52:04 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 11:52:49 | Zagor | ah |
| 11:53:05 | langhaarrocker | cu later |
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| 12:05:17 | quelsaruk | btw Zagor, when key lock is on |
| 12:06:02 | quelsaruk | you can still press off-key to shut down the jukebox, is that a bug? |
| 12:09:02 | Zagor | no. that's hardware. |
| 12:12:16 | quelsaruk | ok |
| 12:12:29 | quelsaruk | another thing, about language conversion... |
| 12:16:09 | quelsaruk | for example, in demo_menu.c you have a string like "bounce" should i use LANG_DEMO_BEOUNCE or just LANG_BOUNCE? i think the first one is more specific, because you'll have to use LANG_BOUNCE_XXX later at bounce.c, what do you think about this? |
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| 12:25:39 | Zagor | quelsaruk: i agree, but don't make it longer than you need. LANG_BOUNCE is ok, since all strings Bounce uses will be called LANG_BOUNCE_XXX |
| 12:27:05 | quelsaruk | ok, as you wish *boss* (it's a joke) :) |
| 12:27:17 | * | Zagor is *the boss* |
| 12:27:29 | Zagor | oh, it was *big boss* |
| 12:27:32 | quelsaruk | some kind of sauron |
| 12:27:57 | Zagor | evil and menacing, i wish to inflict pain on everyone. |
| 12:29:55 | quelsaruk | you've forgot to say "muhahahahahahahahahaha"... then it will look diabolic |
| 12:30:48 | Zagor | adi|home: the "OFF turns off the unit even when keylock is on" should be in the faq |
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| 12:36:13 | bobTHC | someone have make custom font ? |
| 12:36:25 | Zagor | not yet |
| 12:36:40 | Zagor | dwihno is working on one, but it's not ready yet |
| 12:38:15 | bobTHC | ok, downloading directly font set at the rockbox format on rockbox.haxx.se will be a good when that work fine... |
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| 12:43:28 | Schnueff | selecting a font from the browsers as FONT_UI would be cool |
| 12:45:48 | Zagor | Schnueff: how do you mean? |
| 12:46:19 | Schnueff | that fonts display in the browser with a new icon and one can press play on them (like with mp3, playlists, rolo) |
| 12:46:43 | Schnueff | then it gets loaded |
| 12:46:48 | Zagor | yes. that will come soon. |
| 12:47:25 | Schnueff | maybe i take a look at it |
| 12:47:35 | Schnueff | but i'm no sure how much time i have :) |
| 12:49:42 | bobTHC | bug |
| 12:49:42 | bobTHC | With last Daily |
| 12:49:42 | bobTHC | when i try to play a long 215 Mb 192kbps 44Hz CBR, the HD start, the HD red led flash but after 30 sec nothing happen ! |
| 12:49:42 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK bobTHC |
| 12:49:42 | bobTHC | the WPS is empty but the device always work I press "ON" and i can play another file |
| 12:49:42 | bobTHC | With v1.3 |
| 12:49:43 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 12:49:43 | bobTHC | when i try to play a long 215 Mb 192kbps 44Hz CBR, the HD start, the HD red led flash but after 30 sec passing at the next track |
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| 12:57:04 | Zagor | bobTHC: it's probably not the file size that is the problem |
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| 13:22:08 | quelsaruk | Zagor: nearlyu finished, it's lunch time, this afternoon i'll submit the diff to the mail list, ok? |
| 13:22:15 | Zagor | sounds great |
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| 15:12:06 | bobTHC | zagor : if it's not the file size what is the problem ? |
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| 15:13:07 | Zagor | i would guess another id3 tag problem |
| 15:17:35 | | Nick elinenbe|sleep is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cces0l.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 15:17:58 | elinenbe | I just necountered an interesting bug. I loaded up a song, and it started on 12 seconds! |
| 15:18:04 | elinenbe | wierd. |
| 15:18:18 | Zagor | ! |
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| 16:47:55 | edx|sleep | manchmal |
| 16:48:14 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 16:48:14 | * | edx|sleep schnarcht und schlaf-chattet |
| 16:48:14 | edx|sleep | lol |
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| 18:15:31 | quel|out | Zagor: debug messages need to be translated? |
| 18:15:55 | Schnueff | hehe i guess not |
| 18:16:05 | quel|out | i hope no |
| 18:16:08 | quel|out | :) |
| 18:17:03 | quel|out | ummm |
| 18:17:55 | quel|out | *off* and *on* are international, i mean *everyone* knows what do you want to say with "on" |
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| 18:21:08 | * | Schnueff .. away |
| 18:25:19 | hardeep | quel|out: I can tell you that we localize "off" and "on" where I work... (eg. German = "Aus" and "Ein") |
| 18:26:25 | quel|out | ooookkkkk |
| 18:27:00 | quel|out | here we say "encendido" and "apagado", but you can see everywhere on and off |
| 18:27:01 | quel|out | :P |
| 18:27:15 | quel|out | it's too large the other way |
| 18:27:53 | hardeep | which language? |
| 18:29:20 | quel|out | spanish |
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| 18:33:41 | quel|out | i suppose i can change all "on" with the same LANG_ON |
| 18:33:47 | quel|out | :) |
| 18:34:02 | quel|out | i hope the *big boss* don't send me to jail for this |
| 18:34:04 | quel|out | hehe |
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| 19:03:05 | Phantom | hi ! is somebody can send me a full english.lang ? I m going to do a french translation... |
| 19:03:32 | | Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B46ed.pppool.de) |
| 19:05:26 | Phantom | is somebody can send me a full english.lang ? I m going to do a french translation... |
| 19:06:54 | quel|out | not yet finished |
| 19:07:00 | quel|out | but i'm finishing it |
| 19:07:34 | quel|out | i hope it will be in less than 1 hour, but after i have to submit changes to the mail list and wait confirmation :) |
| 19:10:04 | Phantom | k, as soon as it is good I will make a French translation |
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| 19:43:10 | Zagor | Phantom: bobTHC will do a french translation too. you should probably work together. |
| 19:43:30 | Zagor | quel|out: no, debug messages do not need to be translated :-) |
| 19:49:16 | quel|out | Zagor: i'm a bit collapsed, how would you call a string like " Dir buffer" in showdir() function ?? |
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| 19:50:01 | YourNick | hi |
| 19:50:17 | Zagor | quel|out: well, the dir buffer is the memory area allocated for holding a dir. the message is shown when the dir does not fit into the area. |
| 19:50:34 | Zagor | YourNick: hi |
| 19:51:15 | YourNick | i just installed rockbox 1.3 on my player, is there a clock like on the recorder? |
| 19:51:41 | | Nick YourNick is now known as D4damage1 (D4damage@ACBAF210.ipt.aol.com) |
| 19:51:41 | quel|out | i know.. but i can't think in a correct id for that string |
| 19:51:59 | Zagor | D4damage1: no, the players don't have a real-time clock |
| 19:52:19 | D4damage1 | is that a hardware restriction? |
| 19:52:47 | D4damage1 | are there plans to include any games on the player? |
| 19:53:25 | Zagor | D4damage1: it simply has no clock chip. i guess you can call that a restriction |
| 19:53:46 | Zagor | D4damage1: as soon as someone writes a good game, we'll most likely include it |
| 19:54:26 | D4damage1 | excellent, I only ask because it looks like the recorder already has a couple |
| 19:54:48 | Zagor | yes, the bitmap screen makes games a lot easier |
| 19:55:08 | D4damage1 | hmm, I think I might invest in a recorder |
| 19:57:54 | quel|out | there seems to be a new recorder, with FM radio |
| 19:57:57 | hardeep | strange... is it intentional that the status bar always uses the built-in font? |
| 19:59:33 | TotMacher | huhu |
| 19:59:50 | TotMacher | is there a final english.lang ? |
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| 20:01:12 | Zagor | hardeep: yes |
| 20:01:58 | | Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
| 20:02:01 | dwihno | Good evening people |
| 20:02:13 | dwihno | I see somebody converted the font, that saves the work from me. Nice. |
| 20:02:23 | quel|out | TotMacher: not yet.. pleeeeease wait a bit |
| 20:02:26 | * | dwihno has -> zero <- time nowadays :( |
| 20:02:39 | hardeep | zagor: it makes the display a bit uglier imo |
| 20:02:41 | TotMacher | but, i can start the translation ? |
| 20:03:15 | hardeep | although this could be partially due to the current built-in font. =) |
| 20:03:16 | Phantom | is final english.lang finished ? I want to try todo a translation |
| 20:03:48 | Zagor | hardeep: exactly. we'll find a good-looking built-in font |
| 20:05:03 | TotMacher | hehe, i wi |
| 20:05:24 | TotMacher | i will also translate the name rockbox to german : rockbüchse |
| 20:05:31 | TotMacher | oder |
| 20:05:37 | TotMacher | rockkasten |
| 20:06:37 | Zagor | lol |
| 20:06:40 | Phantom | i will also translate the name rockbox to french : Rockbox FR |
| 20:06:41 | quel|out | TotMacher, Phantom, i suppose that when english.lang is finished, Zagor will notify that in the website, so please don't be impatient. |
| 20:06:50 | Phantom | k |
| 20:06:53 | TotMacher | hehe |
| 20:06:56 | TotMacher | READY ! |
| 20:06:57 | TotMacher | :) |
| 20:07:23 | TotMacher | its not that much to |
| 20:07:26 | TotMacher | translate |
| 20:07:26 | TotMacher | :) |
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| 20:11:52 | Phantom | I'm ready, I should translate in french in less than 10 minutes... |
| 20:13:36 | dwihno | french french bench |
| 20:13:37 | dwihno | frenchbench |
| 20:13:39 | dwihno | workbench |
| 20:13:40 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 20:13:43 | dwihno | I want amiga workbench |
| 20:13:46 | dwihno | workbench for PC |
| 20:13:56 | dwihno | including guru meditation emulation |
| 20:14:39 | Phantom | lol, stop smocking... |
| 20:15:19 | dwihno | :-) |
| 20:15:27 | dwihno | Well, a better job might do the trick too |
| 20:15:33 | dwihno | Being away from home 11 hours a day sucks |
| 20:15:36 | dwihno | :( |
| 20:16:51 | dwihno | Zagor: hire me :-D |
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| 20:33:44 | langhaarrocker | So: now we can have a volume peak meter in wps - without a dirty thread. |
| 20:35:51 | Phantom | quel said :"i hope it will be in less than 1 hour..." |
| 20:36:12 | Phantom | ...2hours later...ARG, kill me !!! |
| 20:36:35 | langhaarrocker | I told you not to eat arghs with your worm |
| 20:39:03 | quel|out | Phantom... you should prey i can finish this before 21:30 |
| 20:39:20 | quel|out | o i will go home and finish this tomorrow morning |
| 20:39:54 | Phantom | May the force be with you |
| 20:40:14 | Phantom | Que la Force soit avec toi |
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| 20:40:27 | quel|out | hi adiamas |
| 20:40:38 | adiamas | howdy |
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| 20:46:06 | langhaarrocker | elinenge: Thank you for committing my patches! |
| 20:53:49 | langhaarrocker | Is there anywhere a good place to initialize a new global_settings field without abusing settings_load? |
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| 21:00:16 | TotMacher | does anyone here uses the JUKEBOX synchronizer ? |
| 21:00:36 | langhaarrocker | not me |
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| 21:04:46 | Phantom | yes me |
| 21:05:02 | langhaarrocker | now that he's gone... |
| 21:05:11 | Phantom | lol |
| 21:05:15 | xam | will the "oszillator" be included in 1.4? |
| 21:05:30 | Phantom | while Quake be included in 1.4? |
| 21:05:56 | langhaarrocker | xam: I'd appreciate it. But I don't know. |
| 21:06:17 | langhaarrocker | Phantom: I'd appreciate that too ;) |
| 21:06:28 | xam | langhaarrocker I think there are still some bugs ... |
| 21:06:35 | langhaarrocker | tell me |
| 21:06:43 | langhaarrocker | I'll fix them |
| 21:07:04 | langhaarrocker | (when I know them) |
| 21:07:23 | xam | Well, at least the version I use (CVS, with patches from mailing list). After some time (some minutes) the ozillator crashes ... |
| 21:07:36 | langhaarrocker | That's fixed. |
| 21:07:50 | langhaarrocker | It ran >2hours on my machine. |
| 21:07:55 | xam | It langhaarrocker coll |
| 21:07:56 | xam | cool |
| 21:08:58 | langhaarrocker | have you used the patch submitted with http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-09/0489.shtml |
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| 21:10:53 | xam | I think so. I have the three features (with F1, F2, F3) |
| 21:10:54 | langhaarrocker | phantom: Totmacher is alive again: that's your great moment! |
| 21:11:09 | TotMacher | ahh |
| 21:11:15 | TotMacher | MY heart !!! |
| 21:11:22 | TotMacher | i had boxes on full volume |
| 21:11:28 | TotMacher | you could have killed me |
| 21:11:32 | TotMacher | with that highlight |
| 21:11:39 | langhaarrocker | It's HEADphones, not HEARTphones! |
| 21:11:44 | dwihno | heh : |
| 21:11:45 | dwihno | :) |
| 21:11:54 | TotMacher | i said |
| 21:11:58 | TotMacher | HEART |
| 21:12:45 | langhaarrocker | xam: and that thing froze? |
| 21:13:47 | xam | well, it said something about an error ... and I had to poweroff/poweron again ... |
| 21:14:00 | langhaarrocker | wait a moment... |
| 21:14:16 | quel|out | ok.. i have to check games and demos and i'll finish |
| 21:15:00 | xam | langhaarrocker doesn't happen to often (I don't use it too often either) |
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| 21:16:10 | langhaarrocker | but I use it very often and it never crashes on my recorder. |
| 21:16:14 | xam | langhaarrocker I try to recreate the error, but right now it's working |
| 21:16:42 | langhaarrocker | I'll check wether I changed something after the fact... |
| 21:18:01 | Phantom | just a question : why don't make a "Big release with "all" : propfont, rolo, games, demos, oszilator,.... ? |
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| 21:18:25 | xam | langhaarrocker: I only used one version of your oszillorgraph (never used any other version): the one with the three features. I got 3 or 4 crashes with it |
| 21:19:42 | langhaarrocker | What puzzles me is that you use the word oszillosgraph. I now know that it should have been spelled osCillosgraph and changed it accordingly. If your version says oszillosgraph it's old. |
| 21:20:05 | quel|out | Phantom: i must go home, but i will work tonight, so tomorrow morning i will submit the changes to the mail list |
| 21:20:17 | quel|out | so you'll have to wait one more day |
| 21:20:19 | quel|out | :) |
| 21:20:27 | langhaarrocker | Sorry my fault: even in the 'new' version I didn't correct the typo in the menu |
| 21:20:28 | Phantom | wath time is it in your country ? |
| 21:20:35 | langhaarrocker | 21:30 |
| 21:20:40 | quel|out | 21:21 |
| 21:20:43 | Phantom | where do you live ? |
| 21:21:03 | langhaarrocker | Krautland ;) |
| 21:21:03 | quel|out | spain |
| 21:21:23 | xam | it's spelled "Oscillosgraph" on my Recorder ... I'm from germany, so forgive my wrong (?) spelling |
| 21:21:27 | Phantom | arf, me in paris, so, this is the same time |
| 21:21:38 | quel|out | yups |
| 21:22:01 | langhaarrocker | And my watch is 10 minutes early. |
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| 21:23:35 | langhaarrocker | xam: seems to be a familiar 'false friend' for us germans. |
| 21:23:45 | xam | langhaarrocker ;) |
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| 21:26:51 | quel|out | see you tomorrow! |
| 21:27:00 | langhaarrocker | cu |
| 21:29:07 | Phantom | bye |
| 21:30:07 | langhaarrocker | xam: do you by any chance know at which kbs rate your files were when the osci crashed? |
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| 21:31:02 | xam | langhaarrocker: I'm not sure. I've everything from 128kb/s to r3mix |
| 21:31:22 | D4damage1 | in the archos firmware you could change the volume of the player by holding the on button and pressing the + or - button, is anything possible like that with rockbox? |
| 21:32:12 | langhaarrocker | xam: I tried it with up to 224 kbs and it was stable |
| 21:32:35 | xam | langhaarrocker I just tried with 320 and it didn't crash |
| 21:33:00 | langhaarrocker | d4damage1: although I have a recorder I'm pretty sure that on the player you just have to press up / down to change the volume |
| 21:33:57 | langhaarrocker | xam: Have you noticed that the osci slows down for a moment after some mp3 data has been loaded from disc? |
| 21:34:12 | D4damage1 | the player hasen't got up and down, it got on, menu, =, -, play/pause and stop/off |
| 21:34:26 | xam | langhaarrocker It crashed again. This time no error message. Using r3mix and pressing the left arrow keys ... |
| 21:34:45 | langhaarrocker | what is r3mix? |
| 21:35:00 | xam | langhaarrocker yes, but the slowdown is not what I'm talking about ... |
| 21:35:17 | langhaarrocker | did it crash during that slowdown? |
| 21:35:47 | xam | langhaarrocker and option of LAME: it's VBR with highest quality (from about 96k up to 320kb, usually about 200k) |
| 21:36:26 | xam | langhaarrocker r3mix is closest to the CD as you can get with mp3 IMHO |
| 21:36:37 | Hadaka | well −−r3mix is one guys opinion of that |
| 21:36:58 | Hadaka | iirc −−alt-preset 3 is another guys opinion |
| 21:37:21 | langhaarrocker | I thought guy is out. ;) |
| 21:37:36 | Hadaka | :) |
| 21:38:12 | langhaarrocker | #*&% Now I've got to fiddle with lame. Never did that before. |
| 21:38:57 | Phantom | just a question : why don't make a "Big release with "all" : propfont, rolo, games, demos, Oscillosgraph,.... ? |
| 21:39:14 | Phantom | Or, if somebody have it send it to me !!! |
| 21:39:25 | xam | langhaarrocker "lame −−r3mix in.wav out.mp3" that's all you need to know ;) |
| 21:39:54 | langhaarrocker | before that I've got to find lame! |
| 21:40:28 | langhaarrocker | Phantom: Probably because there's no file writing, recording and all the announced features for 1.4 |
| 21:41:41 | Phantom | I didn't ask for 1.4, but just a version with "all" the work allready done |
| 21:42:31 | langhaarrocker | why don't you use the daily build? It's got everything - besides the osci... |
| 21:43:38 | Phantom | why ? |
| 21:47:17 | langhaarrocker | 'Why' it doesn't have the osci or 'why' use the daliy build? |
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| 21:53:54 | Phantom | 'Why' it doesn't have the osci |
| 21:54:42 | langhaarrocker | because nobody commited it yet. Probably it's one of those features that makes people say: "I'm out!" |
| 21:55:25 | Phantom | ... |
| 21:55:40 | xam | langhaar ;) |
| 21:56:05 | xam | langhaar stupid people IMHO ... |
| 21:56:08 | dwihno_ | COMMIT IT! |
| 21:56:15 | dwihno_ | Commit! :D |
| 21:56:16 | dwihno_ | Yay! |
| 21:56:48 | dwihno_ | Then Captain Zagor will bust your sorry ass. Prime violation of the Code laws! :) |
| 21:57:26 | langhaarrocker | I don't have cvs access - fortunaltely. |
| 21:58:47 | D4damage1 | i've got a question |
| 21:58:54 | langhaarrocker | only one? |
| 21:59:27 | D4damage1 | is there a firmware that lets you choose between loading the rockbox firmware or the archos firmware? |
| 21:59:41 | langhaarrocker | yes, the current daily build. |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:00 | dwihno_ | publish some oszillo enabled ajz on a webpage, I'd love to test |
| 22:00:24 | D4damage1 | this one off the site? |
| 22:00:25 | D4damage1 | rockbox-daily-20020912.tar.gz |
| 22:01:08 | langhaarrocker | you use player or recorder? |
| 22:01:14 | D4damage1 | player |
| 22:02:15 | langhaarrocker | http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-playerold/archos.mod or |
| 22:02:15 | langhaarrocker | http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-player/archos.mod |
| 22:02:46 | D4damage1 | thanks |
| 22:03:17 | D4damage1 | and what do I call the archos.mod ? (archoses firmware) |
| 22:03:32 | Phantom | and I, JBR with osci plz... |
| 22:03:36 | dwihno_ | langhaarrocker: Put the ozci enabled ajz online plz :) |
| 22:04:26 | Phantom | PLLZZZZ |
| 22:04:35 | langhaarrocker | zzzzzz |
| 22:04:54 | Phantom | ARG |
| 22:05:05 | xam | plzzzzzz |
| 22:05:07 | dwihno_ | PLZZZ |
| 22:05:08 | dwihno_ | PLZZZ |
| 22:05:09 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno_ |
| 22:05:09 | dwihno_ | PLZZZ |
| 22:05:09 | dwihno_ | :) |
| 22:05:10 | Phantom | PLEASE |
| 22:05:14 | dwihno_ | Come on, you lang haar rocker dude! :) |
| 22:05:28 | xam | long hair rocker ... |
| 22:05:52 | langhaarrocker | If I only remebered my ftp password. |
| 22:06:14 | | Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:06:21 | langhaarrocker | Wait a few minutes: I'll have to swap the computer. |
| 22:06:34 | | Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") |
| 22:06:48 | dwihno_ | yay! |
| 22:06:52 | dwihno_ | We get ozci! :) |
| 22:08:44 | xam | mhh, compiling wine ... hopefully I can run counterstrike on my laptop now ... |
| 22:15:15 | Phantom | dwihno : where ??? |
| 22:15:28 | dwihno_ | Phantom: Still waiting for it... |
| 22:15:33 | dwihno_ | I think he'll never return :( |
| 22:15:36 | dwihno_ | Just to keep us on the edge |
| 22:15:38 | dwihno_ | waiting |
| 22:15:39 | dwihno_ | longing |
| 22:15:40 | dwihno_ | :-) |
| 22:16:05 | Phantom | :-) |
| 22:17:10 | dwihno_ | hmm |
| 22:17:16 | dwihno_ | Hey, you langhaardude! Return now! :) |
| 22:17:23 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:17:23 | * | dwihno_ dials 1-800-langhaar |
| 22:19:37 | | Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B2839.pppool.de) |
| 22:19:55 | langhaarrocker | have a look at http://www.x-phobie.de/ajbrec.ajz |
| 22:20:10 | langhaarrocker | that has the osci and the volume peak meter in wps. |
| 22:20:52 | langhaarrocker | (of course you have to modify your .rockbox/default.wps and include a line with %pm in it) |
| 22:21:59 | Phantom | (of course you have to modify your .rockbox/default.wps and include a line with %pm in it) ??? |
| 22:22:09 | Phantom | HOW ? what that ? |
| 22:22:17 | langhaarrocker | And _please_ report if you encounter any problems with the osci. That really puzzles me. |
| 22:22:43 | langhaarrocker | Phantom: have you ever customized your wps? |
| 22:22:48 | Phantom | .rockbox/default.wps ? what is it ??? |
| 22:22:55 | Phantom | Never |
| 22:23:34 | Phantom | "Every, new features apears, RockBox, the Endless Firmware" |
| 22:23:44 | langhaarrocker | That is a file with which you can modify what your wps shows. Including progress bar and (only with this version) volume peak meter. |
| 22:24:05 | dwihno_ | my WPS is cute |
| 22:24:22 | dwihno_ | I need to extend it someday though |
| 22:24:27 | Phantom | is there a file with full help for WPS ? |
| 22:24:31 | langhaarrocker | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/custom_wps_format.html |
| 22:24:49 | TotMacher | hey |
| 22:25:02 | dwihno_ | I'll test it |
| 22:25:13 | TotMacher | did you ever thought about asking archos to link to rockbox |
| 22:25:18 | langhaarrocker | but as said: I made a new tag %pm that works similar to %pb but displays a volume meter |
| 22:25:19 | TotMacher | as alternative firmware ? |
| 22:25:53 | Phantom | good question ? |
| 22:25:56 | langhaarrocker | I'm pretty sure Archos knows about rockbox. And if they really liked the idea they'd link anyway. |
| 22:26:32 | dwihno_ | agreed |
| 22:26:37 | | Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 22:26:39 | TotMacher | hmm |
| 22:26:43 | Phantom | They are very sympatic at Archos, I see them for a probleme (yes, directly) |
| 22:26:44 | dwihno_ | they will probably invalidate their warranty for ppl using rockbox |
| 22:26:45 | TotMacher | i dont know |
| 22:26:56 | TotMacher | i think they have very less support on archos |
| 22:27:12 | TotMacher | i think most on the new multimedia box |
| 22:27:18 | TotMacher | hmm |
| 22:27:19 | TotMacher | but |
| 22:27:35 | TotMacher | that would take pressure off archos jukebox support |
| 22:27:41 | TotMacher | so positive for archos |
| 22:28:02 | TotMacher | ever thoght about a dialog with archos ? |
| 22:28:06 | TotMacher | Zagor ? |
| 22:28:17 | langhaarrocker | maybe they're confronted with support hotline for rockbox :) |
| 22:28:27 | * | dwihno_ loads a kickass beat |
| 22:28:58 | langhaarrocker | Why not outsorce the support to archs. That would enable Zagor to have enough time to commit the oscillosgraph! |
| 22:29:12 | dwihno_ | hmm |
| 22:29:19 | dwihno_ | the osc is not fast enuf! :) |
| 22:29:24 | TotMacher | HEHE |
| 22:29:30 | dwihno_ | looks stupid with my beats! :) |
| 22:29:33 | TotMacher | ist there Now a OSC ? |
| 22:29:49 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: :-) |
| 22:30:12 | dwihno_ | it probably uses the rand() function ;) |
| 22:30:16 | dwihno_ | doesn't seem accurate at all |
| 22:30:24 | dwihno_ | j/k langhaarrocker, it has a great future :) |
| 22:30:42 | Zagor | TotMacher: there's a guy (outside the project) talking to archos about open sourcing their code. we'll see what that amounts to. |
| 22:30:47 | langhaarrocker | jump! Joy! |
| 22:30:52 | TotMacher | ahh |
| 22:30:54 | TotMacher | very kewl |
| 22:31:06 | TotMacher | so |
| 22:31:19 | Zagor | apparently the americans are very positive while the french management is, um, not :-) |
| 22:31:25 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: is that the GUY who's out? |
| 22:31:34 | Zagor | haha. no. |
| 22:31:56 | xam | langhaarrocker it's kurzhairpopper |
| 22:32:04 | TotMacher | hehe |
| 22:32:05 | xam | kurzhaarpopper |
| 22:32:08 | Phantom | FRENCH MANAGEMENT IS FABULOUS !!! |
| 22:32:14 | Phantom | COMPRIS ????!!!! |
| 22:32:22 | Zagor | if you say so... |
| 22:32:31 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:32:31 | langhaarrocker | whats kurzhaarrocker in french? |
| 22:33:15 | Phantom | Translate : les français de chez archos son super sympa et m'on échangé mon AJBR 6GO contre un 10GO GRATUITEMENT !!! |
| 22:33:46 | langhaarrocker | Well that's a fine deal if you didn't have to pay extra |
| 22:33:57 | Phantom | frenchs from Archos are very sympathics, they change my AJBR 6go for a 10 go FOR FREE! !! |
| 22:33:59 | dwihno_ | mangez les baguette pour moi, s'il vous plait! |
| 22:34:09 | Phantom | coz my 6go burned |
| 22:34:19 | TotMacher | hehe |
| 22:34:20 | TotMacher | kewl |
| 22:34:26 | langhaarrocker | dwihno_ eat it yourself |
| 22:34:40 | xam | Phantom what about screwing up you 10 and get a 20? |
| 22:34:53 | langhaarrocker | Phantom: I'll by a lighter at once. |
| 22:35:13 | dwihno_ | langhaarrocker: Yeah, je mange les baguette with saucisson et stinky fromage :) |
| 22:35:31 | langhaarrocker | uäch! |
| 22:35:52 | * | xam get's hungry |
| 22:36:05 | xam | gets |
| 22:36:19 | langhaarrocker | Wait a minute while I'm being sick. |
| 22:36:39 | dwihno_ | baguette with saucisson - c'est parfait |
| 22:37:02 | * | xam doesn't understand french language ... |
| 22:37:09 | Phantom | FOR ROCKBOX DEV TEAM : BE READY, the FM/AM jukebox recorder is already sold in France |
| 22:37:17 | langhaarrocker | I've been in the Vogeses lately and they had some fantastic meat pie! |
| 22:37:36 | xam | Phantom ARGGLLLL |
| 22:37:55 | dwihno_ | Phantom: still the same design? |
| 22:37:59 | Phantom | no |
| 22:38:01 | Zagor | Phantom: until someone buys one and writes drivers, we won't support it |
| 22:38:13 | dwihno_ | Phantom: url? |
| 22:38:17 | Phantom | 2 sec |
| 22:38:28 | xam | Phantom I just bought my Recorder two weeks ago ... and the oly thing that I missed was a AM/FM tuner |
| 22:39:41 | Phantom | http://www.archos.com/images2/products/press_ondio.jpg |
| 22:40:00 | dwihno_ | looks fishy |
| 22:40:09 | Phantom | Just when you thought Jukebox technology could not go any further, Archos get seriously retro with The Jukebox FM Recorder 20 and the Ondio adding another unique feature to their category-leading Jukebox Recorder – so now you can capture any track off the radio you like on the move, with the next generation Archos Jukebox FM Recorder 20 or Ondio, both with built-in FM radio. |
| 22:40:47 | Phantom | http://www.archos.com/images2/products/press_ondio.jpg : |
| 22:41:06 | dwihno_ | looks fishy indeed |
| 22:41:08 | Phantom | this is a 128MB MP3 recorder |
| 22:41:19 | dwihno_ | ah ,okay |
| 22:41:23 | Phantom | not the Archos Jukebox FM Recorder 20 |
| 22:41:25 | dwihno_ | :) |
| 22:41:26 | dwihno_ | okay |
| 22:41:40 | xam | Phantom the picture of the FM Recorder is the background picture ... |
| 22:41:51 | xam | http://www.archos.com/images2/press_bg1.gif |
| 22:42:05 | Phantom | bNO |
| 22:42:06 | Phantom | NO |
| 22:42:07 | xam | or is this the JBMM |
| 22:42:12 | dwihno_ | ya |
| 22:42:13 | dwihno_ | it's the mm |
| 22:42:13 | Phantom | that is the JBMM |
| 22:42:20 | dwihno_ | nice piece :) |
| 22:42:28 | dwihno_ | (NOT talking about the JBMM) ;) |
| 22:42:44 | Phantom | yes |
| 22:42:46 | xam | but they didn't show a picture of the FM recorder 20 :( |
| 22:43:58 | dwihno_ | :( |
| 22:44:12 | dwihno_ | I'd love if they would skip the bumpers |
| 22:44:18 | dwihno_ | they does not fill a purpuse imho |
| 22:44:53 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: Any progress with file writing? |
| 22:45:06 | Phantom | no, but the JBMM have bumpers |
| 22:45:08 | Zagor | some. still lots to do. |
| 22:45:35 | PsycoXul | dwihno_: those bumpers have saved my HD on a tile floor |
| 22:46:09 | PsycoXul | and probably the case and other componants too |
| 22:47:19 | PsycoXul | the ruggedness of the archos was one of its selling points for me |
| 22:47:52 | Phantom | sure, but mine burned... |
| 22:47:59 | langhaarrocker | xam: do you know in which mode you crashed the oscillosgraph? |
| 22:48:10 | langhaarrocker | line / filled /dots? |
| 22:48:18 | dwihno_ | :) |
| 22:48:31 | xam | langhaarrocker the second mode |
| 22:48:33 | dwihno_ | Yay for Zagor! |
| 22:48:49 | dwihno_ | Zagor: Take your time, don't stress the code. Feel the code flowing through you! :) |
| 22:48:54 | Zagor | :-) |
| 22:49:02 | xam | langhaarrocker (out)lined |
| 22:49:05 | Phantom | langhaarrocker :the file you posted is good, but...this font is VERY BAD |
| 22:49:12 | dwihno_ | Oh my god! It's SNAZZ tomorrow! |
| 22:49:17 | dwihno_ | uhm, I ment SNAXX :) |
| 22:49:29 | dwihno_ | Albeit, SNAZZ sounds more yum :) |
| 22:49:44 | TotMacher | is there a osscisograph ? |
| 22:49:58 | dwihno_ | TotMacher: ya, langhaarrocker has made some work on such a thing! :D |
| 22:50:09 | TotMacher | is it in CVS ? |
| 22:50:16 | langhaarrocker | http://www.x-phobie.de/ajbrec.ajz |
| 22:50:33 | TotMacher | is it in CVS ? |
| 22:50:41 | langhaarrocker | I have no cvs acces and I'd really like to have that thing code polieced first. |
| 22:51:05 | langhaarrocker | There are some things I'm not quite sure about. |
| 22:51:05 | TotMacher | ok |
| 22:51:10 | TotMacher | lets have a look |
| 22:51:10 | TotMacher | :) |
| 22:51:27 | langhaarrocker | Are you going to mach it tot? |
| 22:51:28 | TotMacher | ahh |
| 22:51:39 | TotMacher | these two bars ? |
| 22:51:46 | TotMacher | these REALLY small two bars ? |
| 22:51:48 | TotMacher | :) |
| 22:51:57 | langhaarrocker | bars? what bars? Ah no. |
| 22:52:07 | TotMacher | how can i activate it ? |
| 22:52:17 | langhaarrocker | Edit your .rockbox/default.wps and add a line wit %pm |
| 22:52:18 | dwihno_ | %something in wps.config |
| 22:52:22 | dwihno_ | ya |
| 22:52:30 | dwihno_ | btw... |
| 22:52:51 | dwihno_ | I think all rockbox related data should be in .rockbox for future stuff (such as fonts, and rockbox specific data stuff) |
| 22:52:58 | dwihno_ | hiscore saving etc. |
| 22:53:04 | Zagor | it will |
| 22:53:26 | TotMacher | i cannnot create a diretroy called ".rockbox" |
| 22:53:27 | dwihno_ | I can always count on you :D |
| 22:53:41 | dwihno_ | TotMacher: mkdir x:\.rockbox (in that DOS prompt thingy) |
| 22:53:50 | TotMacher | what a shit |
| 22:54:11 | dwihno_ | perhaps the file reading code is nagging about upper and lowercase file stuff? |
| 22:55:29 | TotMacher | ahh |
| 22:55:30 | TotMacher | nice |
| 22:56:24 | TotMacher | where is the wps help html file ? |
| 22:56:52 | langhaarrocker | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/custom_wps_format.html |
| 22:57:05 | langhaarrocker | there's a link from the faqs |
| 22:57:12 | TotMacher | ahh |
| 22:57:13 | TotMacher | ok thx |
| 22:57:22 | langhaarrocker | and a request by zagor to update the manual |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:47 | | Nick dwihno_ is now known as dwihno|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
| 23:00:47 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno|gone |
| 23:00:48 | dwihno|gone | Gotta sleep |
| 23:00:51 | dwihno|gone | Zagor: hire me ;D |
| 23:00:58 | Zagor | :-) |
| 23:01:06 | dwihno|gone | I'll do coffee for you! :) |
| 23:01:11 | dwihno|gone | Just get me off this shitty job |
| 23:01:14 | dwihno|gone | I'll even do HTML! :D |
| 23:01:25 | Zagor | i have some spare change laying around here. you can have that... |
| 23:01:48 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:01:48 | * | dwihno|gone takes his place next to the rullstols-bingolotto-försäljar-dude in centraltunneln |
| 23:01:56 | dwihno|gone | "will do HTML for food and shelter" |
| 23:02:05 | TotMacher | why does rockbox not load the new default.wps when i stop USB ? |
| 23:02:52 | Zagor | because it only does that at boot |
| 23:03:09 | Zagor | we should probably do it after usb too, but we don't |
| 23:03:16 | TotMacher | yes |
| 23:03:24 | Phantom | QUESTION: what software do I need to build my own firmware ? |
| 23:03:25 | TotMacher | you should, when i change it |
| 23:03:28 | TotMacher | i cannot access |
| 23:03:50 | TotMacher | does conditonal in WPS cover more than 1 line ? |
| 23:03:56 | Zagor | TotMacher: no |
| 23:04:00 | langhaarrocker | cant you update your wps by just selecting it from the browser? |
| 23:04:00 | Zagor | Phantom: gcc |
| 23:04:00 | TotMacher | hmm |
| 23:04:30 | Phantom | this is command line program, no ? |
| 23:05:39 | Zagor | Phantom: yes |
| 23:06:17 | TotMacher | not becaus i cannot access the rockbox directory |
| 23:06:34 | | Quit xam ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/1]") |
| 23:07:19 | Zagor | TotMacher: turn off "dir filter" and turn on "show hidden files" |
| 23:07:29 | TotMacher | hmm |
| 23:07:30 | TotMacher | ok |
| 23:10:17 | | Join Jet8810 [0] (~Joshua@adsl-34-21-184.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:11:58 | TotMacher | a VERY important |
| 23:12:01 | TotMacher | WPS tag |
| 23:12:03 | TotMacher | is |
| 23:12:10 | TotMacher | langhaarrocker ? |
| 23:12:17 | langhaarrocker | yes? |
| 23:12:22 | TotMacher | maybe you could include this |
| 23:12:26 | TotMacher | i need two tags |
| 23:12:27 | TotMacher | one |
| 23:12:29 | TotMacher | for |
| 23:12:49 | TotMacher | the filename until a "-" |
| 23:12:57 | TotMacher | and the filename after the "-" |
| 23:12:59 | TotMacher | two tags |
| 23:13:05 | TotMacher | to parse |
| 23:13:10 | langhaarrocker | that sound like regular expressions |
| 23:13:10 | TotMacher | filenames |
| 23:13:11 | TotMacher | like |
| 23:13:14 | TotMacher | yes |
| 23:13:30 | TotMacher | heino - haselnuss |
| 23:13:34 | TotMacher | i need one string |
| 23:13:35 | TotMacher | for |
| 23:13:37 | Phantom | VIVA CYGWIN |
| 23:13:40 | TotMacher | which includes |
| 23:13:44 | TotMacher | "heino" |
| 23:13:46 | TotMacher | and one |
| 23:13:47 | TotMacher | with |
| 23:13:50 | TotMacher | "haselnuss" |
| 23:13:57 | TotMacher | most of the songs |
| 23:14:04 | TotMacher | names in this shema |
| 23:14:10 | TotMacher | named |
| 23:14:14 | langhaarrocker | Let me guess: And you want that to update your mp3 tags? |
| 23:14:23 | TotMacher | hmm |
| 23:14:24 | TotMacher | no |
| 23:14:29 | TotMacher | if there is no |
| 23:14:37 | TotMacher | artist name in tag available |
| 23:14:41 | TotMacher | i want to display |
| 23:14:47 | TotMacher | the parsed filename |
| 23:14:48 | TotMacher | in WPS |
| 23:14:55 | TotMacher | and if there is no title |
| 23:14:58 | TotMacher | i want to display |
| 23:15:03 | TotMacher | the last part of the filename |
| 23:15:12 | TotMacher | understand ? |
| 23:15:24 | dwihno|gone | yeah, and parse the stuff between ( and ) too :) |
| 23:15:47 | langhaarrocker | So roughly, yes. But actually I don't feel addicted to that job. I'm just working towards a split editor. Reading out volume info was on that way. |
| 23:16:40 | TotMacher | ok |
| 23:16:42 | TotMacher | hmm |
| 23:16:45 | TotMacher | schade :( |
| 23:16:51 | TotMacher | that is soo simple |
| 23:16:55 | TotMacher | but i cant do it |
| 23:17:18 | langhaarrocker | I haven't played much with the wps but there are conditional things already included. Are you sure that can't be done with that? |
| 23:17:30 | | Nick edx is now known as edx|tv (~edx@pD9EAB847.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:17:35 | TotMacher | NO! |
| 23:17:40 | TotMacher | there is no tag Parsing |
| 23:17:42 | TotMacher | included |
| 23:17:47 | Phantom | Is there one of Rockbox Team "big boss"'s ? |
| 23:17:50 | TotMacher | only check if tag is filled or not |
| 23:17:54 | TotMacher | yes |
| 23:17:55 | TotMacher | me |
| 23:18:17 | Phantom | Can I make a french web site about rockbox ? |
| 23:18:28 | TotMacher | all the program shit and rest of rockbox is done by zagor |
| 23:18:29 | TotMacher | hehe |
| 23:18:29 | TotMacher | no |
| 23:18:32 | TotMacher | ask zagot |
| 23:18:35 | TotMacher | zagor |
| 23:18:37 | TotMacher | about that |
| 23:18:40 | TotMacher | iam no the boss :) |
| 23:18:50 | Phantom | GRrrr |
| 23:19:23 | * | Phantom is a French "bad guy" : be carefull |
| 23:19:27 | TotMacher | 10 wps lines for recorder ? |
| 23:19:30 | langhaarrocker | If I was Zagor I'd only allow that after you've updated the manual :) |
| 23:19:45 | TotMacher | i only see maximal 8 lines |
| 23:19:55 | langhaarrocker | that's all there is |
| 23:20:08 | Phantom | that is why I want to make a french page, to make a "full" manual |
| 23:20:25 | Zagor | Phantom: why a french site? it will always be out-of-date |
| 23:20:40 | langhaarrocker | like french firmware? ;) |
| 23:20:47 | Phantom | Yes |
| 23:20:50 | Phantom | BUT |
| 23:21:12 | TotMacher | the english page is also always out of date |
| 23:21:14 | TotMacher | so |
| 23:21:18 | Phantom | Don't need to have all "beta" releases |
| 23:21:20 | TotMacher | french will be horrible :) |
| 23:21:35 | Phantom | Just "Important" things |
| 23:21:45 | Phantom | and a full "french" firmware |
| 23:23:20 | TotMacher | i will do a german one |
| 23:23:27 | TotMacher | echte deutsche FIRMWARE |
| 23:23:34 | TotMacher | lecker leberwurst |
| 23:23:48 | Zagor | Phantom: i don't like it. it will only add more confusion. |
| 23:24:04 | Zagor | a french translation of the manual is fine, but it should be on the official site |
| 23:24:11 | Phantom | ok |
| 23:24:48 | Phantom | I should become one of the "Frenchie Rockbox team member" lol |
| 23:25:22 | TotMacher | is conditonal recursive ? |
| 23:25:36 | Phantom | arf |
| 23:25:37 | Zagor | TotMacher: you can use it recursively, yes |
| 23:25:41 | TotMacher | yes |
| 23:25:41 | TotMacher | rox |
| 23:25:47 | TotMacher | rockbox roxx |
| 23:25:48 | TotMacher | :) |
| 23:29:32 | TotMacher | custom wps rox :) |
| 23:35:33 | Phantom | is there other prog than gcc to compile rockbox ? (visuel c++ , and so on...) |
| 23:35:50 | Zagor | Phantom: visual can only create windows programs |
| 23:36:06 | Zagor | for 80x86 processors |
| 23:36:34 | Phantom | lol, but may be something near |
| 23:36:49 | Zagor | gcc is near. it's the compiler to use. |
| 23:37:32 | Phantom | ok |
| 23:38:07 | Phantom | and : how to use it under windows ? (I ve linux but i m boring in reboot) |
| 23:38:31 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/sh-win/ |
| 23:38:54 | Phantom | your my hero |
| 23:40:03 | Phantom | you 're my hero |
| 23:40:10 | Phantom | OUCH ! |
| 23:40:13 | Phantom | 35 mo |
| 23:40:39 | Zagor | about 1/10 of visual |
| 23:41:14 | langhaarrocker | Do we have any wps tags that have parameters (besides the conditional)? |
| 23:41:32 | Phantom | youpi, superb tutorial |
| 23:41:57 | Phantom | a french version a rockbox should be out sooner |
| 23:42:00 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: no |
| 23:42:26 | Phantom | 60ko/s : fast download |
| 23:43:33 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: I assume it is not desired to have any persistence saving in the *.wps files, right? |
| 23:43:46 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: right |
| 23:45:30 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: how would clearrect/fillrect be faster than draw/clearline? |
| 23:45:39 | Zagor | (reading your osc source) |
| 23:46:20 | langhaarrocker | Because drawline transfers pixel by pixel but drawing a rect can transfer 8 pixels at once while vertical / horizontal. |
| 23:46:35 | Zagor | but you only draw one pixel high |
| 23:46:59 | langhaarrocker | one pixel wide |
| 23:47:13 | Zagor | the lcd buffer bytes are arranged vertically. so 8 pixels wide is 8 different bytes. |
| 23:47:35 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 23:48:05 | Zagor | which means drawing 8 pixels wide always means 8 separate byte writes. and thus no gain using drawrect(). |
| 23:48:37 | langhaarrocker | but i also must fill the rect |
| 23:48:50 | langhaarrocker | did I use drawrect or fillrect? |
| 23:48:51 | Zagor | which rect? it's a single pixel line, isn't it? |
| 23:49:10 | langhaarrocker | That's just for the max values |
| 23:49:26 | langhaarrocker | There's really no necessity for that to be fillrect |
| 23:50:27 | langhaarrocker | Ah, yep I see: it's 'historical'. I started off drawing only one channel and then the line was 8 pixel high. Fillrect might have drawn them at once. |
| 23:51:46 | Zagor | ok, so now you can use drawline? |
| 23:52:02 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 23:52:09 | Zagor | good |
| 23:52:21 | langhaarrocker | I always intended to write an optimized draw_v_line / draw_h_line |
| 23:52:45 | langhaarrocker | But then I got my brain twisted and couldn't draw straight lines at all... |
| 23:53:16 | Zagor | haha |
| 23:55:38 | Zagor | drawline isn't that slow anyway. it's just a couple of extra variable assignments. |
| 23:56:14 | | Join tot|n8 [0] (tot@p5084A926.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:56:24 | tot|n8 | is %s include in conditonal ? |
| 23:56:28 | langhaarrocker | But especially when drawing vertical lines you could reduce the loop to 1/8 at best |
| 23:56:32 | Phantom | I've build my first FIRMWARE !!! |
| 23:56:38 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: please submit next patch as one file instead of several |
| 23:56:41 | langhaarrocker | Phantom: congrats: |
| 23:56:57 | Phantom | Now : is it work ?... |
| 23:57:01 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: I'd have done it but my cvs didn't |
| 23:57:16 | Zagor | tot|n8: ? |
| 23:57:40 | tot|n8 | can i include %s in a conditonal |
| 23:57:49 | tot|n8 | eg i want to let scroll the first line |
| 23:57:52 | tot|n8 | if tag is found |
| 23:57:53 | tot|n8 | else |
| 23:57:56 | tot|n8 | scroll second line |
| 23:58:02 | Phantom | first thing I've done : had my name in Credits ;-) |
| 23:58:04 | Zagor | ah. i don't know, actually |
| 23:58:25 | langhaarrocker | Phantom: Then you have achieved more than me ;) |
| 23:58:32 | PsycoXul | btw, i think that %s should scroll whatever comes after it and leave what comes before it stay solid [similar to how the cursor and icon stay while the filename scrolls in the browser], that way you can do things like %pp%s%it |
| 23:58:34 | Phantom | lol |
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