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| 00:34:24 | Jet8810 | recorder 20 has been recalled? |
| 00:34:25 | Jet8810 | why? |
| 00:44:06 | freshmaker | Jet8810: where did you get the info about a recall? |
| 00:59:42 | Jet8810 | <MasterOfMagic> Well, I went to Circuit City here in the States and they said that the Recorder 20 had been recalled. :( |
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| 01:16:45 | datazone | you have to remember circuit city is stupid |
| 01:17:10 | datazone | he could have meant that circuit city is no longer going to be selling them, so they are recalling them |
| 01:17:56 | datazone | they may not want to be selling devices like it, they may have ties with the music industry |
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| 03:08:15 | merwin | yo |
| 03:09:43 | mecraw12 | yo-yo |
| 03:09:59 | merwin | I seem to have missed the whole huge blowup fights lately :) |
| 03:10:18 | mecraw12 | i've been sitting quietly on the sidelines |
| 03:10:23 | PsycoXul | i just skipped passed all the font and language stuff |
| 03:10:39 | PsycoXul | i speak english and have a player, so it wasn't that interesting heh |
| 03:10:59 | merwin | I don't have a recorder and i don't really speak any other language fluently (other than spanish), so the arguments didn't pertain |
| 03:10:59 | merwin | heh |
| 03:11:35 | PsycoXul | mmm |
| 03:11:39 | PsycoXul | you can't beat loose-leaf for tea |
| 03:11:52 | merwin | and binders |
| 03:12:37 | PsycoXul | binders? you mean those things that hold that old "paper" stuff? |
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| 03:16:53 | merwin | PsycoXul: yeah... heh. Remember those? |
| 03:17:05 | merwin | mecraw12: your peers apparently didn't like your connection |
| 03:17:54 | mecraw12 | my cable is screwed up, my dsl is screwed, my 802.11a is screwed... |
| 03:17:56 | merwin | Like 007? Yeah, except I'm going to be 009 1/2, get it? |
| 03:18:03 | merwin | great quote |
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| 03:18:05 | * | mecraw12 wishes he was screwed |
| 03:18:25 | merwin | mecraw12: hehehe.... at least you're getting screwed by something |
| 03:18:53 | mecraw12 | i should count my blessings i suppose |
| 03:28:15 | merwin | my cablemodem is working smoothly, my 802.11a hasn't arrived yet :( I won a full 802.11a home kit a couple months ago and haven't gotten it yet. |
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| 03:36:13 | merwin | 1500kbps download, 200kbps upload. I would rather they were an even 850kbp both ways though |
| 03:44:56 | pimlottc | bitch bitch bitch... |
| 03:44:58 | pimlottc | heh |
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| 04:17:13 | datazone | where were they when i plugged my jukebox into a mac running OS X and couldnt figure out how to see the fricking drive. |
| 04:17:40 | datazone | or when i plugged int a mac running os9 and it went and put all sorts of crap over my filesystem |
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| 06:26:23 | MasterOfMagic | I'm having problems with my Recorder in Linux. |
| 06:26:32 | MasterOfMagic | When I mount the drive and write things to it, it's fine. |
| 06:26:46 | MasterOfMagic | When I go to unmount it, the machine locks. (The computer, not the recorder.) |
| 06:27:13 | MasterOfMagic | I'm using the usb-uchi driver. |
| 06:27:26 | MasterOfMagic | Anyone have any idea what is wrong/had this experience before. |
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| 06:37:12 | MasterOfMagic | I'm having a problem with a USB device. It's a mass storage device. (Archos Recorder 15GB) When I mount it, everything is okay. When I write to it, everything is okay. When I synch it, everything is okay. When I go to unmount it, the system freezes. Any idea on what I'm doing wrong? |
| 06:42:05 | pimlottc | you mean umount the file system or when you disconnect the cable |
| 06:42:28 | MasterOfMagic | umount the fs |
| 06:42:40 | MasterOfMagic | Besides "don't do that", what should I do? :-) |
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| 06:45:22 | pimlottc | zagor would be the one to ask about that |
| 06:45:34 | MasterOfMagic | I figured. |
| 06:45:46 | MasterOfMagic | Well, I'm going to try kernel 2.4.19 later today. |
| 06:45:50 | pimlottc | you could try recompiling with USB storage debug info |
| 06:45:56 | pimlottc | see if there's anything useful that shows up in the logs |
| 06:46:26 | MasterOfMagic | I tried that. Last message talks about a write, and then when I cut the power, the next message is "restart" |
| 06:46:56 | MasterOfMagic | (I let the machine alone for 15 minutes) |
| 06:47:21 | pimlottc | there are definately some problems with the driver. just haven't seen that one in particular |
| 06:49:09 | MasterOfMagic | Thanks for your help. No rockbox firmware until I fix that...:-( |
| 06:52:35 | pimlottc | you could always compile the uisimulator :) |
| 06:53:33 | MasterOfMagic | True, but that doesn't help when I'm using the recorder in school instead of listening to the CS professor drone on about linked lists. :-) |
| 06:53:45 | pimlottc | laugh |
| 06:54:00 | MasterOfMagic | Linked lists were hard...when I was 9. :-) |
| 06:55:01 | pimlottc | could boot to windows maybe |
| 06:55:11 | MasterOfMagic | I would if I had it on this machine. |
| 06:55:46 | MasterOfMagic | I'll have to "borrow" my friend's IBook. :-) |
| 06:59:59 | MasterOfMagic | As soon as I get that working, then it's ext2 hacking. :-) |
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| 09:15:49 | Schnueff | hi all |
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| 09:27:02 | Schnueff | moin zagor |
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| 09:28:28 | Zagor | hi |
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| 09:30:40 | Schnueff | Zagor: i have the patch for backlight-on-when-charging ready. do you want me to mail it to you for review? or should i mail it to the list? |
| 09:30:52 | Zagor | send it to the list |
| 09:31:02 | Schnueff | k |
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| 09:36:29 | bobTHC | hi all! |
| 09:38:36 | bobTHC | zagor : the 1st version of francais.lang is out, what u think about upload it in the cvs? |
| 09:39:05 | Zagor | i will, as soon as I get through my mail |
| 09:39:23 | bobTHC | i send u it now ? |
| 09:40:32 | bobTHC | at your email or in the mailing list? |
| 09:40:44 | Zagor | the mailing list, for review |
| 09:40:55 | bobTHC | ok, sending.... |
| 09:47:39 | bobTHC | shit, i forgot great to phantom and pyvasene! |
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| 09:57:35 | bobTHC | zagor : I can't post in cvs, when review is ok, u post it ? |
| 09:57:45 | Zagor | yes |
| 09:59:14 | bobTHC | *.lang discution in the mailing list is hot ! |
| 09:59:34 | bobTHC | ;) |
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| 10:52:07 | mem | hi |
| 10:52:26 | Zagor | hi |
| 10:53:23 | mem | Zagor: It was an interesting "presentation" last night :-) |
| 10:53:29 | Zagor | hmm, mem? Malotte, Mats, Mikael? |
| 10:53:44 | * | mem is Magnus |
| 10:53:49 | Zagor | ah, of course |
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| 10:54:10 | langhaarrocker | how do I specify the language for build? |
| 10:54:16 | Zagor | yeah, so when are you getting your recorder? ;) |
| 10:54:25 | langhaarrocker | Or where can I read howto? |
| 10:54:30 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: you don't, yet. change LANGUAGE in apps/Makefile |
| 10:54:38 | langhaarrocker | k |
| 10:54:57 | mem | Zagor: I'm looking for the right place to buy the thing from |
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| 10:55:23 | dwihno | mem: Dustin has it (I bought mine there) |
| 10:55:49 | dwihno | breakfast time! :D |
| 10:55:57 | mem | dwihno: Dustin doesn't have them i stock... |
| 10:56:02 | mem | in, even |
| 10:56:29 | dwihno | mem: what a pity! When I ordered my unit, I got it the next day! (including 700km shipping) :) |
| 10:57:47 | mem | Zagor: The admin guy (inköpare) at Kontaktor was talking about another store that also could write "portable HD" on the invoice, do you know what store he was talking about? |
| 10:57:57 | langhaarrocker | I left the LANGUAGE target set to english but the generated lang.c contains no single string. |
| 10:58:14 | mem | dwihno: for me it would be 15km shipping :-) |
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| 10:58:26 | * | dwihno weeps a bit. The price has surely dropped! :( |
| 10:58:38 | Schnueff | dont tell us:) |
| 10:58:55 | Schnueff | so we dont weep as well |
| 10:59:06 | dwihno | okay |
| 10:59:09 | dwihno | I won't tell you then ;) |
| 10:59:10 | mem | dwihno: I wonder if Dustin can promise that price. All other stores has more or less the double price |
| 10:59:37 | dwihno | mem: well, place a phonecall and ask them when additional units will arrive. |
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| 11:00:12 | Zagor | mem: i don't know, but I can give you his number |
| 11:01:27 | mem | Zagor: you could /msg me his number |
| 11:01:44 | dwihno | Hmm |
| 11:01:57 | dwihno | This sounds like something on the brink of legality ;) |
| 11:05:51 | langhaarrocker | when I get a lang.c file generated that doesn't contain any strings - does that mean something is broken or does that mean I lack of knowledge? |
| 11:06:11 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: good question :-) |
| 11:06:16 | Zagor | works for me |
| 11:06:18 | mem | dwihno: Dustin says that they will get them 27/9 but the delivery date has changed a number of times... |
| 11:07:09 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: how do you call the perl script? I do "perl genlang english.lang" and everything turns out fine (on my win32 box too!) |
| 11:07:33 | dwihno | mem: aww... well, the 27th isn't that far away... |
| 11:07:51 | langhaarrocker | Ah. I lack of knowledge. Didn't know I had to call any pearl scripts |
| 11:08:21 | dwihno | :-) |
| 11:08:27 | Zagor | you don't. the Makefile does that for you. |
| 11:08:43 | dwihno | Hmm. |
| 11:08:48 | dwihno | Not the gnush makefiles :) |
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| 11:11:22 | * | LinusN suffers from a serious hangover today |
| 11:11:33 | langhaarrocker | oh god |
| 11:11:49 | langhaarrocker | (have you ever read Terry Pratchett?) |
| 11:11:50 | mem | LinusN: hi |
| 11:12:57 | dwihno | Terry Pratchett? I recognize that name, but I can't remember from where... |
| 11:13:25 | langhaarrocker | He wrote half a library of books concerning 'disc world'. |
| 11:13:43 | langhaarrocker | some kind of fantasy parody |
| 11:14:00 | dwihno | ah |
| 11:14:03 | dwihno | disc world it is! |
| 11:14:25 | langhaarrocker | He invented eg the Oh God. That's the god of hangovers. Because every prayer to the god of hangovers starts with "Oh God!" |
| 11:14:33 | * | dwihno is not the book kinda guy (unless it's sci-fi ^_^) |
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| 11:15:19 | langhaarrocker | if you like Douglas Adams Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy you MUST read disc world books! |
| 11:15:31 | Schnueff | at least some |
| 11:16:10 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: I'll do that when I retire ;) |
| 11:17:01 | langhaarrocker | btw it _is_ the perl script that generates this lang.c file that lacks of any strings. How that? |
| 11:17:36 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: sounds strange |
| 11:17:54 | langhaarrocker | It just contains a char **language_strings[] with comma separated whitespace. |
| 11:18:16 | langhaarrocker | (my typo: one * to many) |
| 11:19:47 | langhaarrocker | from my build dir I now tried to call the perl script using |
| 11:19:48 | langhaarrocker | perl ../tools/genlang ../apps/lang/english.lang |
| 11:19:48 | langhaarrocker | is that wrong? |
| 11:19:49 | Zagor | what can I say. the code in CVS works. |
| 11:19:52 | mem | Zagor: I've just spoke to Jon and got the information about Portal AB http://www.portalab.se/ |
| 11:20:15 | Zagor | mem: ah, right. i've heard that name before. |
| 11:20:17 | mem | Zagor: The guy at Portal will call me back with a price and delivery date soon |
| 11:20:17 | Hadaka | I'm feeling a bit upset about comparing the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy to discworld books :( |
| 11:20:54 | langhaarrocker | Thats what everybody does. |
| 11:21:14 | langhaarrocker | But don't consider it comparing the books but its audiences. |
| 11:21:21 | langhaarrocker | They overlap |
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| 11:22:08 | Hadaka | well yes, people who read humorous sci-fi do overlap |
| 11:22:42 | dwihno | People who read books do overlap? :) |
| 11:22:46 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: ../../tools/genlang -p=/home/bjst/src/rockbox/rsim/lang ../../apps/lang/english.lang |
| 11:23:46 | Zagor | but even the simple "../tools/genlang ../apps/lang/english.lang" works |
| 11:24:17 | Schnueff | when building the simulator i had to build lang.{c,h} manually yesterday, iirc |
| 11:24:45 | Zagor | Schnueff: you shouldn't have to, unless you do a kludge win32 build |
| 11:24:54 | Schnueff | no windows here :) |
| 11:25:12 | Schnueff | w8 |
| 11:25:15 | Zagor | the x11 sim creates lang.c automatically |
| 11:26:21 | Schnueff | yes u're right |
| 11:26:37 | Schnueff | so my remembrance played me a joke :) |
| 11:32:45 | bobTHC | Zagor : Can i be charge of the francais.lang ? |
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| 11:33:42 | langhaarrocker | Zagor this /home/bjst/src/rockbox/rsim/lang - I don't have anything comparable. What should be in it? |
| 11:34:23 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: that's just the path+prefix for the lang.c that is created |
| 11:34:25 | Zagor | it's not a dir |
| 11:36:20 | bobTHC | because few changes made by other french contributor are debatable... but a lot of other are Ok ;) |
| 11:39:28 | Zagor | bobTHC: i'll check in the last one Olivier sent and then you suggest changes to that, ok? |
| 11:39:45 | bobTHC | ok |
| 11:39:56 | LinusN | Is anybody working on Greg's font patches? |
| 11:40:02 | Zagor | yes |
| 11:40:03 | LinusN | with the new default font |
| 11:40:44 | LinusN | do we like the don't-show-the-scrollbar thing? |
| 11:41:04 | Zagor | i'm not sure, i haven't tested it yet |
| 11:41:15 | LinusN | i think it's a good idea |
| 11:45:17 | langhaarrocker | btw: suggestion for improvement of genlang: |
| 11:45:18 | langhaarrocker | It could complain if a *.lang file was specified that doesn't exist. |
| 11:45:41 | Zagor | yup |
| 11:49:39 | langhaarrocker | In english.lang all new: tags are empty. Is that the wrong source for genlang? Do I have to create something else first? |
| 11:50:00 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: english lang is supposed to have empty new: lines |
| 11:51:41 | langhaarrocker | And it's supposed to generate a lang.c with a valid string array? |
| 11:51:50 | Zagor | yes |
| 11:52:04 | LinusN | i have tried the scrollbar removing patch |
| 11:52:10 | LinusN | i think it is good |
| 11:52:34 | Zagor | LinusN: it doesn't look strange when the scrollbar goes away and comes back for different dirs? |
| 11:52:47 | LinusN | no, i don't think so |
| 11:53:00 | LinusN | but other people might think differently |
| 11:53:40 | LinusN | you should all try it and see for yourselves |
| 11:53:43 | Zagor | we should have three scrollbar settings: "on", "off", "if needed" |
| 11:53:50 | LinusN | good idea |
| 11:54:02 | LinusN | i'll do that |
| 11:54:14 | langhaarrocker | to specify the language there's nothing else but the *.lang file that is specified? It is not that any system information is used or something? |
| 11:54:27 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: nope, just the .lang |
| 11:57:22 | langhaarrocker | I don't understand it at all. genlang generates a pretty looking lang.h but a lang.c that contains no strings. |
| 11:57:33 | langhaarrocker | (I just updated from cvs) |
| 11:58:18 | langhaarrocker | might it be that the pearl wit cygwin works differently than other perls? |
| 11:58:52 | Zagor | maybe. sounds strange, though |
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| 12:00:05 | langhaarrocker | Is there anybody who can confirm that genlang works with cygwin? |
| 12:06:13 | langhaarrocker | One again I wished I knew perl... |
| 12:08:49 | Hadaka | hm |
| 12:09:03 | Hadaka | err |
| 12:09:16 | Hadaka | somebody mentioned the wonderful language of perl |
| 12:10:16 | Zagor | Hadaka: can you look at it and see if you find a reason why it doesnt work for him? |
| 12:10:36 | LinusN | Zagor: how do we want F3 to work when the scrollbar has three modes |
| 12:10:55 | langhaarrocker | does perl make differences between null and empty string? |
| 12:11:03 | Hadaka | yes |
| 12:11:07 | Zagor | LinusN: F3+LEFT should cycle btwn the three modes |
| 12:11:28 | Hadaka | now lemme try and find that cvsweb |
| 12:11:48 | Hadaka | where's the script? |
| 12:12:02 | langhaarrocker | tools/genlang |
| 12:13:02 | LinusN | Zagor: okidoki |
| 12:13:07 | Hadaka | weiiird script, what on earth is that $p it's using= |
| 12:13:56 | Schnueff | langhaarrocker: null strings are 'undef' |
| 12:14:03 | Schnueff | empty are "" |
| 12:14:29 | langhaarrocker | interesting. |
| 12:15:09 | LinusN | Zagor: should we move the f2_screen and f3_screen to a separate file? |
| 12:15:16 | Hadaka | hmm, I wonder if there's some jerking around on windows with the fact that files can be opened either in binary mode or in text mode - though I don't think that's relevant to cygwin |
| 12:15:28 | Hadaka | so lang.c has no strings? |
| 12:15:35 | Schnueff | hm with activeperl u need to set mode |
| 12:15:58 | langhaarrocker | just comma separated white space. |
| 12:15:58 | langhaarrocker | What looks really weirdo to a non perl user is line 54 |
| 12:16:01 | Schnueff | thats a nasty problem on windows |
| 12:16:51 | bobTHC | Micro$oft rules ;) |
| 12:16:52 | langhaarrocker | But how comes it than that I get pretty lang.h files? |
| 12:17:16 | Hadaka | you are telling me that this script works fine on linux? |
| 12:17:26 | Zagor | it does |
| 12:18:06 | Hadaka | it's not the ugliest perl I've seen, but still |
| 12:18:11 | Schnueff | :) |
| 12:18:19 | LinusN | Zagor: do we want quick-menus on F2 and F3 in other places than the WPS? |
| 12:18:40 | Zagor | LinusN: yes, dir browser (already there) and menus (todo) |
| 12:19:33 | Hadaka | um, the file wouldn't happen to be with dos line-endings would it? |
| 12:19:43 | LinusN | i don't like that they are implemented in wps.c |
| 12:19:45 | Schnueff | no |
| 12:19:50 | Schnueff | Hadaka: which file? |
| 12:20:08 | Zagor | LinusN: i know. we could move them to a quickscreen.c or something |
| 12:20:15 | LinusN | or menu.c |
| 12:20:16 | Hadaka | the input file for genlang there |
| 12:20:31 | Hadaka | because that could definitely cause this |
| 12:20:35 | Schnueff | english.lang is with unix endings |
| 12:20:38 | Schnueff | line |
| 12:20:39 | Zagor | LinusN: why is menu better than wps? |
| 12:21:02 | LinusN | because the quick-menus are more menus than they are WPS, imho |
| 12:21:04 | bobTHC | Zagor : when u plan to review the francais.lang ? (it's not to stress u, just for my personnal todo list) |
| 12:21:15 | Schnueff | maybe one should set $/ = "\n"; just to make sure on windows? |
| 12:21:20 | Hadaka | well either there's some crap at the end of the line - or the 'eng' values are not read correctly |
| 12:21:23 | Hadaka | nono, never |
| 12:21:24 | Hadaka | horrid |
| 12:21:36 | Schnueff | $/ is a nice var:) |
| 12:21:42 | Hadaka | yeah right |
| 12:21:42 | Zagor | LinusN: yeah, but i don't think they belong in menu.c. that would be mixing things too much. make a new file instead. |
| 12:21:47 | LinusN | ok |
| 12:22:33 | Hadaka | lemme clean that script up a bit |
| 12:23:04 | langhaarrocker | it _was_ eof problem! |
| 12:23:09 | Hadaka | ha! |
| 12:23:17 | Zagor | eof or eol? |
| 12:23:24 | Hadaka | eol I suppose |
| 12:23:27 | langhaarrocker | I ran dos2unix on it and now I got a pretty lang.c |
| 12:23:39 | Hadaka | you must've checked it out with wincvs or something |
| 12:23:48 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 12:27:35 | langhaarrocker | Would eol + cr make perl skip every other line? |
| 12:28:09 | Schnueff | hm |
| 12:29:27 | langhaarrocker | cu later |
| 12:29:35 | Schnueff | cu |
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| 12:34:13 | Hadaka | puuh, ponder |
| 12:35:29 | Hadaka | I wonder what is really wanted from that script |
| 12:36:17 | Hadaka | where's a lang file for me to see? |
| 12:37:08 | Schnueff | in in apps/lang/english.lang |
| 12:37:42 | Schnueff | over sourceforge cvs browser: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/rockbox/apps/lang/english.lang?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain |
| 12:37:58 | Hadaka | yeah did that already |
| 12:38:01 | Schnueff | k |
| 12:38:12 | Hadaka | the new: looks real ugly there |
| 12:38:56 | Zagor | new: should be empty in english.lang |
| 12:39:06 | Hadaka | aah! that's it |
| 12:40:32 | Zagor | it should use new:, or eng: of new is empty |
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| 12:42:16 | bobTHC | dutch translation is posted ! |
| 12:43:41 | | Quit TotMacher () |
| 12:44:23 | bobTHC | it's not me but i announce it for dutch ppl |
| 12:58:01 | | Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 12:58:15 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 12:58:20 | Schnueff | wb badger |
| 12:58:20 | bobTHC | hi! |
| 12:58:29 | Zagor | hey there bag |
| 12:58:35 | Schnueff | eh bagder |
| 12:58:46 | mem | Bagder: hi! |
| 12:58:57 | Bagder | ah, mem! ;-) |
| 12:59:08 | * | mem has to go for a meeting... |
| 12:59:26 | mem | Bagder: I have ordered a recorder from Dustin... |
| 12:59:41 | Bagder | right on! |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:19 | mem | Bagder: I couldn't resist after your "promotion event" yesterday |
| 13:00:38 | mem | CU all later! |
| 13:00:39 | Bagder | hm, I should get the pics |
| 13:00:44 | | Nick mem is now known as mem_away (~mem@bl-magsan.sth.bluelabs.se) |
| 13:03:09 | Bagder | whoa, what a spamday |
| 13:03:46 | Bagder | I got mail to list admin from six different lists, all with the same spam that was stopped |
| 13:05:37 | | Join hotrana [0] (~calpefros@62.52.174.30) |
| 13:05:44 | hotrana | hi ! |
| 13:05:55 | Bagder | hey |
| 13:07:12 | hotrana | I'm back and want to install the simulator on linux next weekend |
| 13:09:44 | hotrana | how can I mount the jukebox ? |
| 13:10:30 | Zagor | mount -T vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos |
| 13:10:43 | hotrana | sda1 is the usb port ? |
| 13:10:54 | hotrana | scsi port |
| 13:10:56 | Zagor | no, sda1 is the first partition on your first scsi disk |
| 13:11:07 | Zagor | usb-storage creates a scsi controller for the usb-disk |
| 13:11:08 | hotrana | hey, now I get it, cool. |
| 13:11:32 | hotrana | thanks |
| 13:15:33 | * | Bagder extends the configure script to allow us to select language |
| 13:16:02 | Zagor | good |
| 13:20:36 | Zagor | Bagder: are you reading the app/lang dir to see what is available, or hard-coding? |
| 13:20:37 | Bagder | we should run uplang in the build script |
| 13:20:44 | Bagder | I read the dir |
| 13:22:11 | Bagder | first uplang and then genlang on the new lang file |
| 13:22:19 | Zagor | good |
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| 13:25:19 | | Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:27:27 | Zagor | Bagder: remind me the reason why we rotate the fonts in rockbox instead of in convbdf |
| 13:29:05 | Bagder | "Certainly we can remove the runtime rotation during the font conversion process, but it gets a bit tricky and I didn't have time to do all this and wanted to get the new font stuff submitted for 1.4." |
| 13:29:22 | Bagder | Greg's words |
| 13:29:22 | Zagor | ok |
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| 13:36:20 | _Snorlax_ | is there a swedish .lang file? |
| 13:37:11 | | Quit _Snorlax_ (Client Quit) |
| 13:37:24 | | Join _Snorlax_ [0] (lamamba_@h135n1fls34o883.telia.com) |
| 13:37:25 | Zagor | fast guy :-) |
| 13:37:31 | Zagor | _Snorlax_: no |
| 13:37:48 | _Snorlax_ | huh? |
| 13:37:54 | _Snorlax_ | are u too lazy? |
| 13:38:16 | Bagder | we wait for you to write it |
| 13:38:16 | _Snorlax_ | or what? |
| 13:39:03 | _Snorlax_ | ok I just gotta go out my programming A course, and then I'll HAXXz0rZ you'll! |
| 13:39:04 | _Snorlax_ | =) |
| 13:39:19 | _Snorlax_ | you'll=you all |
| 13:39:49 | Bagder | writing a .lang file doesn't take any programming skill |
| 13:39:59 | _Snorlax_ | sorry if I sounded cocky! |
| 13:41:01 | Bagder | well, we have anough work already, so simple things are better done by others |
| 13:42:44 | bobTHC | zagor : In francais.lang |
| 13:42:45 | bobTHC | id: LANG_ID3_BITRATE |
| 13:42:45 | bobTHC | s/Taux de données/Taux d'encodage |
| 13:51:50 | bobTHC | If u do everything it's not very funny for u and for us |
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| 13:57:55 | Zagor | can anyone reach cvs? |
| 13:58:12 | Zagor | bobTHC: i'll fix it |
| 13:58:31 | Zagor | i know, we should have a language maintainer. |
| 13:59:06 | bobTHC | volunteer ! ;) |
| 13:59:36 | Zagor | ok |
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| 14:00:21 | LinusN | cvs seems down |
| 14:00:52 | bobTHC | cvs browsing is ok... |
| 14:01:05 | LinusN | committing doesn't work |
| 14:01:40 | Zagor | bobTHC: do you run windows or linux? |
| 14:02:09 | bobTHC | win2k |
| 14:02:30 | bobTHC | i have TortoiseCVS1 |
| 14:02:32 | Zagor | have you got cvs set up? |
| 14:02:55 | Zagor | ok, good |
| 14:03:40 | | Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-school (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 14:04:15 | Zagor | bobTHC: do you have a sourceforge account? |
| 14:04:23 | bobTHC | yep : bobthc |
| 14:07:57 | Zagor | ok, you now have commit access. thou shalt herebe be called The Language Guy :-) |
| 14:08:41 | Zagor | dwihno: how are things going with your font? |
| 14:09:23 | bobTHC | zagor : ok thanx... |
| 14:10:58 | Bagder | I can select language now |
| 14:11:42 | | Quit _Snorlax_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 14:11:48 | Zagor | Bagder: cool |
| 14:12:09 | Bagder | it is |
| 14:13:16 | | Nick fraggle_ is now known as fragglet (~fraggle@pc2-glfd1-4-cust151.gfd.cable.ntl.com) |
| 14:15:47 | Bagder | Zagor: are you on top of Greg's latest font patches? |
| 14:15:57 | Zagor | yes. just waiting for cvs to wake up. |
| 14:16:04 | Bagder | goodie |
| 14:16:19 | Zagor | added font loading in browser too |
| 14:16:25 | Bagder | r0ck |
| 14:22:24 | | Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|brb (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:22:26 | Bagder | I have a bug/feature request hack coming up for the site too |
| 14:23:19 | Bagder | Zagor: you game for a look? |
| 14:25:03 | Zagor | sure |
| 14:25:18 | Bagder | /home/dast/rockbox-tracker/bugs.html |
| 14:25:22 | Bagder | and features.html |
| 14:26:29 | Zagor | there's no header on the table |
| 14:26:38 | Bagder | if we make a new temporary page somewhere and insert them we can play around a little |
| 14:26:43 | Bagder | right, no header... |
| 14:27:19 | dwihno | Zagor: I'm awaiting Uwe Freese to finish his conversion... It only has a few glitches. |
| 14:28:40 | Zagor | dwihno: ok |
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| 14:30:54 | EnnaN|afk | helo |
| 14:32:54 | Bagder | hi |
| 14:33:07 | EnnaN|afk | wow, people here :) |
| 14:33:20 | Bagder | nah, I'm just a bot ;-P |
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| 14:33:42 | Schnueff | beep |
| 14:33:42 | EnnaN|afk | so i can insult you and ask my n00b questions without actually hurting any1? |
| 14:33:44 | EnnaN|afk | kewl |
| 14:33:50 | Bagder | right ;-) |
| 14:33:51 | EnnaN|afk | nick Ennan |
| 14:33:55 | | Nick EnnaN|afk is now known as Ennan (bla@CC53164-B.GRONI1.GR.HOME.NL) |
| 14:34:02 | Ennan | oops :p |
| 14:35:16 | Ennan | jsut a quick quest: my (long) playlist says 1/999 songtitle −−- while playing..is this because there are only 999 songs in the playlist, or are there just 3 spaces available for this... |
| 14:35:50 | Bagder | its because you only have 999 songs in it |
| 14:36:46 | Ennan | ...eeuhm, i'm sure there are 1298 in there... |
| 14:37:04 | Ennan | (or i have uploaded my "only 999 songs because archos doesn't play any more" playlist) |
| 14:37:08 | Ennan | that would be dumb... |
| 14:38:03 | Bagder | well, Rockbox displays X/Y in the WPS, right? |
| 14:39:12 | * | Ennan bangs head on keybord |
| 14:39:19 | Ennan | badger <−− nvr mind! |
| 14:39:33 | Ennan | *sigh* |
| 14:39:39 | Ennan | uploaded my old pl. |
| 14:39:45 | Bagder | hehehe |
| 14:39:52 | Ennan | lucky 4 me you're a bot :) |
| 14:40:39 | * | Bagder received interrupt signal |
| 14:40:57 | Bagder | segmentation fault (core dump) |
| 14:41:43 | Ennan | core dump? going to the toilet? :)) |
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| 14:48:01 | | Nick LinusN|brb is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:48:13 | Ennan | wb |
| 14:50:28 | dwihno | LinusN: sur för att jag inte dök:ade upp? :) |
| 14:52:44 | LinusN | ja |
| 14:52:55 | LinusN | bangare där! |
| 14:53:57 | dwihno | :( |
| 14:54:02 | dwihno | Fick inget sällskap |
| 14:55:42 | LinusN | we were there, wasn't that enough? :-) |
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| 15:01:57 | Bagder | we only had 6 Archoses around yday ;-( |
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| 15:05:06 | Zagor | LinusN: aren't we using 8-bit swapping now? why then is a word swapped as one, instead of as bytes? |
| 15:06:21 | Bagder | darned cvs |
| 15:07:55 | LinusN | Zagor: the bit swapping uses an 8-bit table, but swaps whole words |
| 15:08:11 | LinusN | to minimize memory accesses |
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| 15:09:48 | Zagor | ok |
| 15:10:04 | Zagor | nasty problem |
| 15:10:27 | LinusN | i'm not yet convinced that this is the problem |
| 15:10:38 | Zagor | ok |
| 15:10:49 | LinusN | but i came to think if it yesterday when i fixed the other id3 bug |
| 15:10:54 | LinusN | of it |
| 15:13:49 | MasterOfMagic | Zagor: I think I found an incompatibility in your ISD-200 driver that might explain why some recorders cause the system to lock. |
| 15:14:02 | | Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:15:30 | LinusN | MasterOfMagic: recorders don't use the isd200 driver |
| 15:15:41 | Bagder | older ones do, don't they? |
| 15:15:47 | LinusN | or are there USB1.1 recorders out there? |
| 15:15:58 | LinusN | my bad |
| 15:16:16 | LinusN | MasterOfMagic: what is it? |
| 15:16:22 | MasterOfMagic | LinusN: My recorder (Recorder 15) uses the ISD-200 |
| 15:16:28 | MasterOfMagic | It's USB 1.1 |
| 15:16:36 | LinusN | ok, what have you found? |
| 15:17:22 | MasterOfMagic | When I umount the Recorder, the system hard locks. I did some digging and I found out that this only occurs when the pre-empt and lock break patches are applied to the kernel. |
| 15:17:33 | MasterOfMagic | After removing these patches, no hard lock of the machine. |
| 15:17:35 | bobTHC | commit don't work ? |
| 15:17:51 | Bagder | bobTHC: the cvs is silly atm |
| 15:18:10 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 15:18:39 | MasterOfMagic | So I thought maybe it's something to add to the FAQ. I spent about 6 hours trying to track it down last night. :-) |
| 15:18:53 | LinusN | MasterOfMagic: nice work |
| 15:18:55 | bobTHC | so ? waiting.... |
| 15:19:05 | MasterOfMagic | Now it may not be the ISD-200 drivers fault...it might be the lockbreak/preempt patch. |
| 15:19:09 | LinusN | bobTHC: we are in the hands of sourceforge |
| 15:19:11 | Bagder | bobTHC: yes, we'll just wait until it starts working again |
| 15:19:32 | MasterOfMagic | I know it happens with the latest versions of these patches on kernel 2.4.18 |
| 15:20:47 | MasterOfMagic | The only reason I bring this up is because there's some talk of some distros patching the kernel with pre-empt and lockbreak in the next release, and that they will be standard in 2.6. |
| 15:22:30 | MasterOfMagic | Well, thanks for the time. |
| 15:22:42 | | Quit MasterOfMagic ("New kernel...") |
| 15:42:34 | Bagder | we should start using the prio field in feature requests and bug reports |
| 15:42:42 | | Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@okmok.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) |
| 15:42:44 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/tracker/features.html |
| 15:43:24 | bobTHC | all @ prio 5 ! |
| 15:43:30 | Bagder | yeah ;-) |
| 15:43:49 | bobTHC | hey guys wake up! ;) |
| 15:43:59 | Schnueff | *snort* |
| 15:44:14 | LinusN | we are busy implementing rubbish |
| 15:44:21 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 15:44:25 | Schnueff | categories for the requests would be nice |
| 15:44:28 | Bagder | http://localhost/snaxx/dest/pic_761.html |
| 15:44:35 | Bagder | oops |
| 15:44:41 | Bagder | http://storebror.haxx.se/snaxx/dest/pic_761.html |
| 15:45:01 | LinusN | hehe |
| 15:45:07 | bobTHC | tshirt are arrived! |
| 15:45:11 | LinusN | nope |
| 15:45:13 | Bagder | not really |
| 15:45:24 | bobTHC | it's beta test ;) |
| 15:45:37 | LinusN | that is not the winning design |
| 15:45:53 | LinusN | but we like it |
| 15:45:59 | Bagder | http://localhost/snaxx/dest/pic_785.html |
| 15:46:06 | bobTHC | so u print it... |
| 15:46:08 | LinusN | i made those three just for the occasion |
| 15:46:10 | Bagder | ah |
| 15:46:37 | LinusN | i am lame, yes i mystyped the colon |
| 15:46:42 | LinusN | mytipedfgg |
| 15:46:46 | LinusN | mistyped |
| 15:48:19 | bobTHC | the pic is misshooted to |
| 15:48:22 | bobTHC | too |
| 15:49:41 | bobTHC | ure lucky , it's just on 3 printout... |
| 15:49:52 | Bagder | hehe, yes |
| 15:50:26 | Bagder | I got a funny mail |
| 15:50:51 | Bagder | "I would like to ask you for permition to publish your brutal kick-ass simulation Porrasturvat on our DVD" |
| 15:51:19 | LinusN | eeeh? :-) |
| 15:51:21 | Bagder | I wonder what that is ;-) |
| 15:54:37 | LinusN | i want to commit! damn cvs server! |
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| 16:00:15 | bobTHC | U are the autor of this " http://plnehry.cz/obrazek.html?obrazek=Porrasturvat1.jpg" ? |
| 16:01:17 | Bagder | nope |
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| 16:04:34 | bobTHC | "2401 failed:" :( |
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| 16:10:56 | | Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/20020819]") |
| 16:13:56 | bobTHC | it's not only commit ,now browsing the cvs is impossible ! |
| 16:14:14 | Bagder | ssh: connect to address 216.136.171.202 port 22: No route to host |
| 16:14:22 | LinusN | i think they are rebooting their servers |
| 16:15:07 | bobTHC | or it's worldcom who don't paid the electricity bill ;) |
| 16:20:45 | LinusN | or a total server crash |
| 16:28:46 | LinusN | maybe we should have a timer for the hard disk LED, so it always lights at least ~0.2s when accessing the disk |
| 16:29:04 | LinusN | that way the resume write would be more visible |
| 16:29:09 | Bagder | yes |
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| 16:33:59 | LinusN | a led_blink() function? |
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| 16:44:54 | bobTHC | cvs sucks! |
| 16:46:20 | Schnueff | no, its a good thing :) |
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| 16:47:09 | bobTHC | yes of course it's a good think when works (it's free so muting) |
| 16:47:22 | bobTHC | :) |
| 16:47:54 | LinusN | any Player guys here? |
| 16:48:21 | bobTHC | u have mine ;) |
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| 16:49:26 | LinusN | bobTHC: are you Julien? |
| 16:49:37 | bobTHC | yep |
| 16:49:44 | LinusN | you are one of our heroes |
| 16:50:03 | Schnueff | hehe |
| 16:50:10 | LinusN | your unit was fried for sure |
| 16:50:24 | LinusN | but it's working now |
| 16:50:35 | | Quit MasterOfMagic ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c19 for the BeOS today!") |
| 16:50:44 | LinusN | you have recorder now? |
| 16:50:48 | bobTHC | yep |
| 16:51:03 | bobTHC | with a 30gig IBM travelstar hd |
| 16:51:06 | LinusN | you really helped us |
| 16:51:57 | bobTHC | and u really impress me... |
| 16:52:26 | freshmaker | aye. can anyone confirm problems with the rockbox cvs repository? |
| 16:52:32 | Bagder | indeed |
| 16:52:35 | Bagder | major probbs |
| 16:52:55 | bobTHC | surely, server down |
| 16:52:59 | freshmaker | crap |
| 16:53:23 | Schnueff | hm there's a #sourceforge channel |
| 16:53:28 | LinusN | does anybody have problems with the keylocking on players? |
| 16:53:30 | Schnueff | any1 visited that? |
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| 16:53:58 | Schnueff | hm only 1 man inside |
| 16:54:02 | LinusN | a guy at funmp3players has problems unlocking |
| 16:54:07 | quelsaruk | Bagder: i have some notes to add in the english.lang |
| 16:54:51 | Bagder | quelsaruk: sure, just make a diff and mail |
| 16:55:02 | bobTHC | the "add id" perl script work fine ? |
| 16:55:30 | Schnueff | and this lonely man in #sourceforge asks: |
| 16:55:31 | Schnueff | 16:54 <@thomasvs> anyone know what's up with sf ? |
| 16:55:31 | Schnueff | 16:54 <@thomasvs> cvs and rsync stuff, mainly ? |
| 16:55:32 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Schnueff |
| 16:55:32 | Schnueff | :)) |
| 16:55:40 | Bagder | hehe |
| 16:55:40 | quelsaruk | i have a lot of things to do today, but i'll submit it tomorrow, i've come just to tell you :) |
| 16:55:58 | Bagder | quelsaruk: I just found a spelling error in there myself ;-) |
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| 16:56:22 | bobTHC | quick chat ;) |
| 16:59:29 | LinusN | bye folks! |
| 16:59:33 | Schnueff | cya |
| 16:59:34 | bobTHC | bye |
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| 17:00:27 | | Nick mem_away is now known as mem (~mem@bl-magsan.sth.bluelabs.se) |
| 17:02:41 | mem | Bagder: I had to change my order of the Recorder from Dustin to PortalAB to save some money... And the ETA is the end of next week |
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| 17:03:07 | Bagder | mine is from Portal too |
| 17:04:26 | Bagder | uh! |
| 17:04:29 | Bagder | cvs! |
| 17:04:39 | langhaarrocker | timeout, too? |
| 17:04:40 | bobTHC | no it's possible! |
| 17:04:51 | Bagder | I can update just now |
| 17:04:57 | mem | Bagder: the sales man at Portal told me that Jon has ordered like totally 20 units or something thru the time |
| 17:04:59 | bobTHC | oohoooooo. |
| 17:05:15 | Bagder | mem: hehe :-) |
| 17:05:41 | bobTHC | mem : what price in sweden ?? |
| 17:05:42 | | Nick vekar is now known as kargatron (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-699.ath.forthnet.gr) |
| 17:06:42 | langhaarrocker | Bagder: you said cvs! Any problems? I'm getting timeouts |
| 17:06:47 | kargatron | are there any accessible archives of what's planned or been talked about for bookmark implementation, if anything? |
| 17:07:10 | Bagder | I said cvs because I finally got it working, its been malfunctioning for hours |
| 17:07:19 | Bagder | but I see that it still doesn't work 100% |
| 17:08:01 | bobTHC | bye all .... |
| 17:08:58 | | Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.9 [Mozilla rv:1.1/20020914]") |
| 17:09:02 | bobTHC | ps: for me cvs don't work yet |
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| 17:09:47 | langhaarrocker | hm. How to diff without cvs? :( |
| 17:09:53 | Schnueff | with diff |
| 17:10:08 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 17:10:22 | Schnueff | easy one, eh? :) |
| 17:10:52 | Schnueff | but only if u have unmodified cvs still available :) |
| 17:10:58 | langhaarrocker | Now that you told me what do diff with I only need something to diff against.. |
| 17:11:34 | Schnueff | that could pose a problem:) |
| 17:13:43 | mem | Bagder: As I'll get my Recorder next week, I expect you to implement all my ideas for yesterday until then :-) |
| 17:13:51 | mem | from, even |
| 17:14:34 | langhaarrocker | no cvs no way |
| 17:15:27 | kargatron | on the funmp3players forum: diddystar5: Probably the best way to get your requests through is on irc at irc.freenode.net on channel #rockbox. |
| 17:15:32 | kargatron | can this be accurate? |
| 17:15:54 | kargatron | requests in this channel better than through the feature request tracker? that sounds damn odd |
| 17:16:05 | langhaarrocker | It's also the best way to get your request rejected :) |
| 17:18:13 | langhaarrocker | I think it's more dependend on the request itself. If someone likes it he might do it - if not - well nobody can force anybody to anything here. |
| 17:18:58 | kargatron | should one deliberately dupe a request here if made in the request tracker at sourceforge? |
| 17:19:18 | mem | It's time to leave the office for today, CU around |
| 17:19:18 | langhaarrocker | There are people who won't like that. |
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| 17:20:11 | Bagder | gotta go |
| 17:20:14 | | Part Bagder |
| 17:21:28 | kargatron | i would expect so - which is why i think it's questionable advice to actively advise people to make requests here |
| 17:22:39 | langhaarrocker | Well the best advice would be: do it yourself. :) |
| 17:23:08 | kargatron | no one wants a monolingual perl programmer trying to learn c for this project. :) |
| 17:23:47 | langhaarrocker | actually I had to downgrade from java to participate. |
| 17:24:58 | langhaarrocker | strange: usually at least a few screams happen when the word java is detected in this chat. |
| 17:25:19 | kargatron | still, i guess i don't mind repeating the smallest of my wishes here: %pn = playlist name in the wps config. |
| 17:27:19 | langhaarrocker | my wish is a logarithm functin. I'll have to do it myself. |
| 17:27:46 | kargatron | log for the meter/ |
| 17:27:47 | kargatron | ? |
| 17:27:53 | langhaarrocker | nod |
| 17:28:08 | kargatron | does a very active display eat up any more significant power? |
| 17:28:17 | langhaarrocker | nodnodnod |
| 17:28:43 | kargatron | that's why i would never bother activating a meter, unless i was recording |
| 17:29:38 | langhaarrocker | I haven't measured it yet. But for a smooth looking meter you need a high frame rate -> more communication beteween different chips -> more power consumption. |
| 17:30:19 | langhaarrocker | And that's why all these communication activities are turned off unless you specify a peak meter in the wps |
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| 17:32:17 | Schnueff | langhaarrocker: i see some c source on http://www.icculus.org/homepages/phaethon/q3/math/logarithm.c for the logarithm. it worx with a lookup table and is reasonbly commented |
| 17:32:52 | Schnueff | maybe one can convert that to fixed point integer arithmetic |
| 17:33:28 | langhaarrocker | I already found a magnificant link for that problem. But momentarily I'm to lazy to understand it. |
| 17:33:33 | Schnueff | ok |
| 17:33:47 | langhaarrocker | Maybe I'll find out I'm too stupid, too. |
| 17:34:57 | langhaarrocker | If you're interested in it: http://www.dattalo.com/technical/theory/logs.html |
| 17:35:14 | Schnueff | ill have a look |
| 17:38:56 | langhaarrocker | seems cvs is up again but I can't acces with anonymous? Does anybody have the same problem? |
| 17:39:20 | Schnueff | i dont get a connect |
| 17:39:42 | langhaarrocker | :( |
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| 17:51:30 | quelsaruk | hi again |
| 17:51:32 | quelsaruk | :)+ |
| 17:51:36 | Schnueff | yo |
| 17:52:01 | quelsaruk | has anyone a archos player? |
| 17:52:35 | langhaarrocker | no |
| 17:53:28 | quelsaruk | and does anyone knows how many characters can be displayed on the player? |
| 17:56:58 | dwihno | conversion to non-scalar type requested <−− ? |
| 17:57:09 | dwihno | what kind of compiler error is that? :) |
| 17:57:23 | dwihno | I'm simply trying to malloc() memory for a heap of structs |
| 17:57:44 | langhaarrocker | dynamic memory is disabled. |
| 17:58:11 | langhaarrocker | using malloc is forbidden. |
| 17:58:41 | dwihno | it is? :) |
| 17:58:51 | dwihno | so how am I supposed to enable space for a variable number of structs? |
| 17:59:03 | langhaarrocker | not at all. |
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| 18:01:11 | dwihno | erhm |
| 18:01:12 | dwihno | ? |
| 18:01:13 | dwihno | :-) |
| 18:02:13 | langhaarrocker | afaik its all about fragmentation. If we had dynamic memory it might become fragmented. That's not a good idea because the free memory should be used for mp3 buffering. |
| 18:02:46 | langhaarrocker | And that buffer is accessed via dma, or so. I'm not quite sure. |
| 18:03:11 | dwihno | okay |
| 18:03:12 | langhaarrocker | Just try to get around your problem using a fixed number of structs. |
| 18:03:21 | Schnueff | FAQ entry 48 :) |
| 18:03:25 | dwihno | :( |
| 18:03:28 | dwihno | *sob* |
| 18:03:35 | langhaarrocker | I know. |
| 18:04:04 | dwihno | How can you code without malloc? :) |
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| 18:04:20 | Phantom | HI !!! |
| 18:04:35 | dwihno | hello |
| 18:04:56 | Phantom | what about French version ? |
| 18:05:27 | quelsaruk | i think it's sent to revision |
| 18:06:02 | langhaarrocker | gotta go |
| 18:06:29 | Phantom | coz I don't want to have translate for nothing... |
| 18:06:36 | Phantom | and about font code ? |
| 18:06:40 | dwihno | hahahahah |
| 18:06:42 | dwihno | I knew it :) |
| 18:06:52 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 18:06:52 | * | dwihno roflmao's for a while, and won't be back for another few minutes |
| 18:07:00 | quelsaruk | font code?? |
| 18:07:17 | quelsaruk | well |
| 18:07:19 | quelsaruk | must go! |
| 18:07:23 | quelsaruk | see you later |
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| 18:07:35 | Phantom | yes, there is a "space" bug |
| 18:07:43 | dwihno | it's not a bug! |
| 18:07:52 | dwihno | It's the font not being 100% converted |
| 18:08:05 | dwihno | the software is running perfectly (well, sort of) |
| 18:08:21 | Phantom | The Lion King - Intro French ==> TheLionKing-IntroFrench |
| 18:08:59 | dwihno | Yes |
| 18:09:11 | dwihno | It's because the font has not been fully converted |
| 18:09:16 | dwihno | It's not a software problem |
| 18:09:19 | dwihno | Do you understand? |
| 18:09:59 | Phantom | yes yes |
| 18:10:01 | Phantom | BUT |
| 18:10:40 | Phantom | yes use a "not fully converted" font ? original Propfonts was very good... |
| 18:10:43 | dwihno | yes |
| 18:10:56 | dwihno | The new font subsystem requires a conversion from the old to the new format |
| 18:11:18 | Phantom | ok |
| 18:11:19 | Phantom | BUT |
| 18:11:27 | dwihno | lots of butts around here ;) |
| 18:11:39 | Phantom | why use it, if font aren't ready ? |
| 18:11:58 | Phantom | they can wait before post it |
| 18:12:21 | Schnueff | ah read the topic |
| 18:12:43 | Schnueff | cu later |
| 18:12:44 | Phantom | I know |
| 18:12:45 | * | Schnueff .. away |
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| 18:20:27 | dwihno | Talk about being impatient :) |
| 18:20:38 | dwihno | When handing him the font, I said it had glitches :) |
| 18:23:32 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: when malloc:ing memory for a struct, how should I do? ptr = malloc(n * sizeof(mystruct)) ? |
| 18:24:52 | | Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 18:28:57 | | Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 18:29:26 | dwihno | Bonsoir! |
| 18:29:28 | Zagor | dwihno: we don't have malloc |
| 18:29:39 | dwihno | Zagor: I know, but I'm working on a private thingy ;) |
| 18:29:51 | dwihno | (which could be converted for rockbox, although not that useful) :) |
| 18:29:55 | Zagor | you need to allocate it statically: struct apa data[n]; |
| 18:30:16 | Zagor | better to do it The Right Way from the beginning |
| 18:30:35 | Zagor | ah, cvs lives again. fixed font code coming up. |
| 18:31:37 | dwihno | But I always use typedef with structs! |
| 18:31:42 | Zagor | stop it |
| 18:31:43 | dwihno | Just kidding ;) |
| 18:31:44 | dwihno | haha |
| 18:31:48 | dwihno | *giggle* |
| 18:32:19 | dwihno | I got a new cool game in the works btw. |
| 18:32:38 | Zagor | cool. what is it? |
| 18:32:41 | dwihno | I need to get the simulator running with mingw first |
| 18:32:43 | dwihno | It's a surprise :) |
| 18:32:48 | dwihno | It will be a shelf-wrecker |
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| 18:34:36 | Zagor | hehe |
| 18:35:16 | dwihno | And everybody will be happy ;D |
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| 19:00:06 | Schnueff | re |
| 19:00:11 | Zagor | hi |
| 19:01:21 | Schnueff | Zagor: did u take a look at my patch |
| 19:01:22 | Schnueff | ? |
| 19:01:32 | Zagor | which was that? |
| 19:01:42 | Schnueff | with the backlight |
| 19:01:58 | Zagor | ah, right. yeah, it looked ok. will probably be merged soon. |
| 19:02:09 | Schnueff | cute |
| 19:03:12 | Schnueff | btw, when the setting is on, the light will stay on also for USB mode. i guess u had the light turn off before, because with the usb screen there's nothing of interest going on |
| 19:03:31 | Schnueff | dunno if one can easily fix this with the new setting |
| 19:04:06 | Schnueff | (it should also be ok this way) |
| 19:06:58 | Zagor | but it only turns on when you plug in the charger, right? not when you plug in usb. |
| 19:07:19 | Schnueff | yes |
| 19:07:26 | Zagor | then it's good |
| 19:29:05 | kargatron | so doesn't the backlight on slow down charging? or just increase adapter draw? |
| 19:29:35 | Zagor | it slows it down, but very marginally. it only draws ~20 mA |
| 19:29:55 | pimlottc | does changing the contrast level make any noticable different in power consumption? |
| 19:30:10 | Zagor | pimlottc: i don't know |
| 19:30:18 | Zagor | i doubt it |
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| 20:29:12 | | Nick edx|sleep is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAB73B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:31:11 | dwihno | edx! :D |
| 20:31:12 | dwihno | WB! |
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| 20:48:29 | kargatron | are there ready-made copy scripts to fill up a jukebox from a playlist? |
| 20:48:39 | kargatron | i can write a perl one pretty easily, just wondering if already done |
| 20:48:54 | Schnueff | hm |
| 20:50:12 | Schnueff | xargs cp −−target-directory /jukebox < playlist.m3u ? |
| 20:50:28 | Schnueff | hm dunno:) |
| 20:51:27 | kargatron | on windows, but was forgetting about cygwin, so i can use unix tricks, yeah... |
| 20:52:47 | Schnueff | with -a hierarchy should be preserved |
| 20:54:55 | Schnueff | hm no |
| 20:55:17 | Schnueff | -P |
| 20:55:47 | dwihno | what does xargs do really? |
| 20:56:05 | PsycoXul | turns stdin to arguments |
| 20:56:09 | Schnueff | it calls the command with the arguments from stdin |
| 20:56:12 | Schnueff | mah@marvin:~/junk/test% xargs cp -v −−parents −−target-directory ../test2 < test.m3u |
| 20:56:16 | Schnueff | that worx |
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| 20:58:46 | * | dwihno always uses "find" with the -exec parameter |
| 20:58:47 | PsycoXul | and you can give cp -u if/when you just wanna update |
| 20:59:19 | Schnueff | xargs or find according to situation |
| 20:59:55 | Schnueff | xargs can do nice things like parallel command calls (with forks) and such:) |
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| 21:00:21 | dwihno | mkay |
| 21:00:37 | PsycoXul | i just do like cp -R Album /mnt/jb/Artist/ |
| 21:00:41 | * | dwihno just tested some xargs stuff :) |
| 21:00:43 | dwihno | Yay |
| 21:00:52 | | Nick dwihno is now known as xargs (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
| 21:00:53 | xargs | :-) |
| 21:01:03 | | Nick xargs is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
| 21:01:05 | Schnueff | xargs: −−replace option for the find -exec lovers |
| 21:03:28 | dwihno | find . -name \*.mp3 -exec echo {} \; |
| 21:03:32 | dwihno | What's the xargs equiv? |
| 21:03:58 | PsycoXul | anybody ever use airborne express for shipments? their tracking is weird.. it got shipped on the 12th and today's the latest it's supposed to be delivered by, but the last thing on the tracking is still "Left Airborne Station" from it's source on the 12th... heh |
| 21:04:00 | Schnueff | find . -name \*.mp3 | xargs -n 1 echo |
| 21:04:22 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:04:30 | dwihno | erhm |
| 21:04:34 | dwihno | that looks strange :) |
| 21:04:41 | Schnueff | why? :) |
| 21:04:48 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:04:53 | dwihno | ./mp3/Victoria |
| 21:04:53 | dwihno | Silvstedt |
| 21:04:53 | dwihno | - |
| 21:04:53 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno |
| 21:04:53 | dwihno | Astro |
| 21:04:53 | dwihno | girl.mp3 |
| 21:04:59 | dwihno | That's NOT how it's supposed to look :) |
| 21:05:12 | dwihno | find does the job rather well ;) |
| 21:05:13 | PsycoXul | of course if all you wanna do is print out the results, thats the default action anyways so 'find . -name \*.mp3' works just as well |
| 21:05:35 | Schnueff | hm should get breaks on spaces |
| 21:05:40 | Schnueff | shouldnt i mean |
| 21:06:01 | Schnueff | hm but it does |
| 21:06:19 | dwihno | what's the -n option? |
| 21:06:29 | Schnueff | xargs passes as much argument as it can to the command |
| 21:06:34 | Schnueff | with -n1 it passes one only |
| 21:07:03 | dwihno | how about argv lengths... ? |
| 21:07:31 | Schnueff | it observes that, that was 'as it can' means |
| 21:07:40 | Schnueff | it has to do more calls then |
| 21:08:01 | dwihno | It will automaticall understand where the limit is? |
| 21:08:04 | Schnueff | yes |
| 21:08:13 | dwihno | ah |
| 21:08:13 | dwihno | :) |
| 21:09:15 | Schnueff | hm standard mode is to split stdin on white space |
| 21:09:32 | Schnueff | so u gotta do find . -name \*.mp3 -print0 | xargs -0 -n1 echo |
| 21:09:37 | Schnueff | if u really want it that complicated :) |
| 21:09:53 | dwihno | :) |
| 21:09:58 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:10:13 | PsycoXul | yeah or you can just do find -name \*.mp3 |
| 21:10:21 | dwihno | ya |
| 21:10:21 | Schnueff | much tooo simple:) |
| 21:10:24 | dwihno | but I wanna learn |
| 21:10:31 | dwihno | why make it simple when you can make it hard? :) |
| 21:14:11 | PsycoXul | find -name '*.mp3' | xargs -n 1 −−replace echo {} |
| 21:14:12 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:14:54 | PsycoXul | except no that still doesn't work right |
| 21:15:20 | Schnueff | find . -name \*.mp3 | perl -pe1 |
| 21:16:07 | PsycoXul | find -name '*.mp3' | sed -e s/\'/\\\\\'/g | xargs -n 1 −−replace echo {} |
| 21:16:08 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 21:16:26 | Schnueff | ok |
| 21:16:30 | Schnueff | what was the problem we were solving? |
| 21:16:34 | Schnueff | :] |
| 21:16:42 | PsycoXul | ./dcc/Neil Young/Harvest/07-There's A World.mp3 |
| 21:16:55 | kargatron | having probs with that xargs thing in cygwin |
| 21:16:58 | PsycoXul | xargs: ./dcc/Neil Young/Harvest/06-Old Man.mp3 |
| 21:16:58 | PsycoXul | unmatched single quote |
| 21:17:09 | dwihno | Blame it on xargs :) |
| 21:17:09 | dwihno | hehe |
| 21:17:22 | kargatron | how to get windows xcopy to read fomr file? |
| 21:17:33 | Schnueff | dunno |
| 21:17:34 | PsycoXul | see simpler things work better for more cases |
| 21:17:47 | kargatron | need the file because want to drag jukebox contents into winamp while 'compiling', then just set to copy overnight or whatever |
| 21:18:06 | PsycoXul | when you start adding unnecessary complexity then more complexity becomes necessary to handle problems that aren't there when you just use the simpler methods heh |
| 21:18:09 | dwihno | Got block: URL (size: 2) |
| 21:18:09 | dwihno | Allocated 256 bytes (2 blocks) |
| 21:18:09 | dwihno | Read 1 bytes |
| 21:18:10 | dwihno | erhm |
| 21:18:20 | dwihno | It's supposed to read more than 1 byte |
| 21:19:10 | Schnueff | PsycoXul: xargs seems to do quote parsing per default. should use -0 for zero-terminated input strings |
| 21:19:16 | dwihno | fread and fwrite return the number of items successfully |
| 21:19:17 | dwihno | read or written (i.e., not the number of characters). If |
| 21:19:17 | dwihno | hehe |
| 21:19:24 | dwihno | Not the number of characters :) |
| 21:19:28 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:19:49 | dwihno | I blame it on XARGS! :) |
| 21:19:57 | Schnueff | YES! |
| 21:20:16 | dwihno | xargs - public enemy no. 1 :) |
| 21:25:18 | PsycoXul | geez i sure hope my violin gets here today |
| 21:25:44 | PsycoXul | it's already ridiculous that it'd take 5 business days to ship something from southern nevada to southern california |
| 21:26:22 | PsycoXul | i dunno what it'd be if it was Late on top of that :p |
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| 21:26:47 | * | dwihno sings "I'm going home, to California, and mjölka kooornaaa. I've been around in Texas, där köpte jag en häcksax" |
| 21:27:14 | dwihno | Or was it Arizona? |
| 21:27:16 | dwihno | Hmm, can't remember :) |
| 21:27:31 | dwihno | Hmm, can't remember :) |
| 21:27:33 | dwihno | oops |
| 21:27:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:27:42 | PsycoXul | you wanna see something silly? |
| 21:27:46 | PsycoXul | mt=c&oh=LAS&oz=89109">http://www.airborne.com/TransitTimes/GDSMapRslts.asp?mt=c&oh=LAS&oz=89109 |
| 21:28:08 | PsycoXul | somehow a GROUND shipment can make it to states on the OTHER SIDE of the counter faster than states that it has to GO THROUGH to get there :p |
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| 21:29:39 | quelsaruk | ummm |
| 21:29:49 | quelsaruk | no boss today :) |
| 21:29:54 | quelsaruk | see you later! |
| 21:29:58 | quelsaruk | or tomorrow |
| 21:29:59 | quelsaruk | :P |
| 21:30:02 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:30:59 | PsycoXul | s/counter/country/ |
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| 21:57:42 | Phantom | Hi ! |
| 21:58:16 | Phantom | nobody ? |
| 21:58:20 | Phantom | arf... |
| 21:58:25 | Phantom | Bye ! |
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| 22:02:53 | dwihno|gone | fread is really puzzling me |
| 22:05:12 | dwihno|gone | PsycoXul: still around? :) |
| 22:14:57 | PsycoXul | it's LATE |
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| 22:15:25 | PsycoXul | it shipped a WEEK ago from a distance that can be driven in less than 1 single day and it's LATE getting here |
| 22:15:51 | PsycoXul | airborne express SUCKS |
| 22:15:57 | PsycoXul | dwihno|gone: yeah whats up? heh |
| 22:16:44 | dwihno|gone | I got problem :/ |
| 22:17:01 | dwihno|gone | buf = (unsigned char *)malloc(nread); |
| 22:17:08 | dwihno|gone | fseek(fp, nread, SEEK_CUR); |
| 22:17:11 | dwihno|gone | that works |
| 22:17:19 | PsycoXul | hmmm |
| 22:17:19 | dwihno|gone | if I replace it with: |
| 22:17:20 | dwihno|gone | fread(buf, nread, 1, fp); |
| 22:17:26 | dwihno|gone | something gets fucked |
| 22:17:58 | PsycoXul | shouldn't the malloc arg be sizeof(mread)? |
| 22:17:59 | dwihno|gone | unsigned char *buf |
| 22:18:10 | PsycoXul | or hmm |
| 22:18:19 | PsycoXul | nm i dunno |
| 22:18:33 | dwihno|gone | malloc just allocates the specified amount |
| 22:18:43 | PsycoXul | thats the size i guess |
| 22:19:11 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 22:19:12 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 22:19:44 | dwihno|gone | it should do the same thing but it doesn't :) |
| 22:22:41 | PsycoXul | i dunno |
| 22:22:49 | PsycoXul | i've always had problems with pointers and malloc personaly |
| 22:22:49 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 22:23:00 | PsycoXul | and all that junk |
| 22:23:08 | dwihno|gone | :) |
| 22:23:55 | PsycoXul | and i'm upset that airborne express came today and delivered something from the other side of the continent shipped yesterday and NOT something shipped from the next state over shipped a week ago that was supposed to get here NO LATER than today |
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| 22:33:23 | dwihno|gone | :) |
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| 22:36:18 | Phil | It's always so frustrating that when you submit a patch no code police is around to commit it instantly. |
| 22:37:09 | Phil | Strange I'll never understand this trillian: why am I Phil all of a sudden? |
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| 22:41:16 | dwihno|gone | langhaarrocker: help! :) |
| 22:41:38 | langhaarrocker | no way: it says you were gone :) |
| 22:42:17 | langhaarrocker | how could I be of any help? |
| 22:43:26 | dwihno|gone | :-) |
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| 22:43:41 | dwihno | You're not a master of the diffs between fread and fseek? :) |
| 22:43:52 | langhaarrocker | *cough* |
| 22:43:59 | hardeep | langhaarrocker: the patch you submitted doesn't include peakmeter.h |
| 22:44:12 | langhaarrocker | hrgh |
| 22:44:12 | dwihno | fread(buff, nread, 1, fp); |
| 22:44:12 | dwihno | fseek(fp, nread, SEEK_CUR); |
| 22:44:21 | dwihno | those two lines SHOULD advance the fp in the same way, right? |
| 22:45:23 | hardeep | dwihno: yes |
| 22:45:32 | dwihno | well, they don't :) |
| 22:45:43 | dwihno | if I use the fseek approach, it works flawlessly |
| 22:45:52 | dwihno | If I use fread, the fp gets screwed! |
| 22:46:45 | hardeep | dwihno: describe "screwed". Is it random? |
| 22:47:29 | dwihno | With fseek() |
| 22:47:29 | dwihno | BEFORE: 0x6008 |
| 22:47:29 | dwihno | AFTER: 0x6100 |
| 22:47:33 | dwihno | with fread() |
| 22:47:33 | dwihno | BEFORE: 0x6008 |
| 22:47:33 | dwihno | AFTER: 0x6106 |
| 22:47:36 | dwihno | uniform behaviour |
| 22:48:14 | hardeep | and how large is nread? |
| 22:49:00 | dwihno | 248 |
| 22:49:29 | dwihno | both times |
| 22:49:41 | hardeep | what OS is this? |
| 22:49:55 | dwihno | windows |
| 22:49:58 | dwihno | using mingw |
| 22:50:39 | hardeep | er... this is with rockbox firmware? there is no fread() in rockbox, only read() |
| 22:51:02 | dwihno | Plain C :) |
| 22:51:09 | dwihno | no rockbox |
| 22:51:28 | dwihno | I didn't know where to search for help, so tried to pull a few strings in here :) |
| 22:52:39 | langhaarrocker | Just an idea: files opened binary / ascii? |
| 22:52:39 | langhaarrocker | cr/lf problems? |
| 22:52:49 | dwihno | erhm |
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| 22:52:58 | * | dwihno gets that feeling in his guts |
| 22:53:08 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:53:16 | PsycoXul | yeah windows makes me sick too |
| 22:53:41 | * | dwihno goes outside, I suddenly got this urge to scream, brb |
| 22:54:13 | langhaarrocker | PsycoXul: Please be sick _out of_ the windows.... |
| 22:55:11 | * | dwihno is back |
| 22:55:13 | dwihno | Damn |
| 22:55:18 | dwihno | I have made this mistake earlier too! |
| 22:55:25 | dwihno | I spent 2 hours checking my code |
| 22:55:35 | dwihno | 2 mo***rf***ing hours |
| 22:55:42 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:55:42 | langhaarrocker | don't worry: I'm to stupid for mailing. |
| 22:56:24 | dwihno | thanks |
| 22:56:34 | PsycoXul | dwihno: don't you know? windows is faster and more productive |
| 22:56:53 | dwihno | PsycoXul: It must've bypassed me somehow ;) |
| 22:57:16 | PsycoXul | well thats the fine print you see |
| 22:57:28 | PsycoXul | if you install any 3rd party software at all |
| 22:57:35 | PsycoXul | or if you fail to reinstall windows every few weeks |
| 22:57:45 | PsycoXul | or if you produce much of anything |
| 22:57:49 | PsycoXul | then it's not true :p |
| 22:58:09 | dwihno | :) |
| 22:58:31 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: you saved my day, thanks. I hate when I make those mistakes :( |
| 22:58:48 | PsycoXul | see i would've never thought of that |
| 22:59:00 | PsycoXul | i'm too used to working with linux |
| 22:59:03 | dwihno | :) |
| 22:59:16 | dwihno | opening the file in textmode... such a crazy idea |
| 22:59:19 | dwihno | what's it good for? |
| 22:59:50 | PsycoXul | hmmm |
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| 23:00:02 | langhaarrocker | I had the same kind or problem today: genlang wouldn't eat files with cr/lf. |
| 23:00:16 | PsycoXul | i'm trying to think of something, even silly ideas for what it might be good for |
| 23:00:19 | PsycoXul | but my mind is a blank |
| 23:00:38 | dwihno | :) |
| 23:00:48 | dwihno | cr/lf is a stupid invention! |
| 23:00:59 | dwihno | Why not use a uniform standard! :D |
| 23:01:24 | PsycoXul | because then everybody could interact freely and easily |
| 23:01:28 | dwihno | yeah... |
| 23:01:30 | PsycoXul | people wouldn't be so locked into what they've got |
| 23:01:32 | dwihno | but if you use windows... ;) |
| 23:01:45 | PsycoXul | and nobody could make any money on conversion tools for dumb people |
| 23:02:29 | langhaarrocker | I want a Java vm for rockbox! |
| 23:02:30 | pimlottc | is there actual a standard for that though? beyond defacto standard. |
| 23:03:05 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: I want windows to open files in binary mode ;) |
| 23:03:08 | PsycoXul | well |
| 23:03:29 | PsycoXul | unix uses lf, mac uses cr, M$ probably thought they were being clever and compatable when they decided to use both :p |
| 23:03:56 | langhaarrocker | I didn't know that about mac. |
| 23:04:06 | langhaarrocker | you never stop learning. |
| 23:04:29 | PsycoXul | that is, if M$ ever has any thoughts about cleverness or compatability |
| 23:04:36 | pimlottc | well if you think about the literal typewriter meanings, CR/LF makes sense |
| 23:04:47 | PsycoXul | except clever ways to take your money, and compatability with their bank accounts |
| 23:04:59 | pimlottc | you both move down a line and return to the left most position |
| 23:05:06 | PsycoXul | pimlottc: thats true |
| 23:06:22 | PsycoXul | though while having a carriage return without a linefeed could possibly be used for double-typing to bold a line |
| 23:06:30 | PsycoXul | line feeding without a carriage return isn't very useful... |
| 23:06:51 | langhaarrocker | reminds me of those old days when I used the C64 to drive the printer. With 9 needles. |
| 23:06:57 | pimlottc | I don't know about that |
| 23:07:19 | dwihno | C64 was evilness! |
| 23:07:27 | dwihno | I was a nintendo-guy back then |
| 23:07:30 | pimlottc | if you wanted to write a vertical line of X's in the middle of the screen, it'd be easier to LF down and BS back one for each X than the LF and CR then space out the middle of the screen for each line |
| 23:08:13 | PsycoXul | pimlottc: easier, yes, but not really logical heh |
| 23:08:40 | PsycoXul | that little trick doesn't seem to warrant all the confusion it's caused |
| 23:08:41 | pimlottc | psycoxul - well computers used to be much more text screen oriented, old terminal systems and all |
| 23:08:48 | langhaarrocker | I once build a scanner from my printer by mounting a photo cell to its head and feeding a needle signal to the C64 interrupt... |
| 23:09:10 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: hehe |
| 23:09:17 | dwihno | I once bought Zelda, that was the rush! :) |
| 23:09:23 | pimlottc | I do think CR makes more sense for text files though |
| 23:09:50 | PsycoXul | i think LF does... heh |
| 23:09:54 | pimlottc | why use two all the time |
| 23:10:03 | pimlottc | well |
| 23:10:18 | PsycoXul | the majority of the time you linefeed will be at the end of the line |
| 23:10:32 | PsycoXul | a point past which you don't want to or often Can't type any further |
| 23:10:34 | pimlottc | there are situations I can think of where you would want to move down without returning to the left. I can't think of many good reasons to overwrite a line |
| 23:10:39 | langhaarrocker | The solution is (drumrol) a _single_ crlf token that does both! |
| 23:10:50 | dwihno | :O |
| 23:10:55 | dwihno | Impressive, langhaar! |
| 23:10:58 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 23:11:03 | pimlottc | langhaarrocker - good luck getting ASCII2003 accepted |
| 23:11:07 | dwihno | :-) |
| 23:11:18 | langhaarrocker | I'll call Bill at once. |
| 23:11:22 | dwihno | don't worry, it'll be backwards compatible ;) |
| 23:11:48 | PsycoXul | pimlottc: well in the old days, bold was done by double-typing what you want bolded |
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| 23:11:55 | langhaarrocker | backward compatibility is no problem: I use 16 bit tokens! |
| 23:12:17 | pimlottc | psycoxul - good point |
| 23:13:07 | PsycoXul | but that was usualy done with backspacing i think |
| 23:13:34 | pimlottc | of course if you look at ascii there are many control characters that nobody uses in the original intended way anymore |
| 23:13:50 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 23:14:00 | langhaarrocker | does backspace work on stdout? |
| 23:14:12 | PsycoXul | langhaarrocker: i think it depends on the terminal |
| 23:14:29 | langhaarrocker | but it surely works differently than on a printer :) |
| 23:14:40 | PsycoXul | again, depends on the terminals |
| 23:14:59 | PsycoXul | i know at least some terminal's support the backspace/double-type bold |
| 23:15:03 | langhaarrocker | are there terminals that can print two chars over each other? |
| 23:15:41 | PsycoXul | don't ask me what they do if the 2 chars are different ones, probably just writes the 2nd one heh |
| 23:16:21 | dwihno | Since you guys are so nice, do you know the format of the windows version of unix timestamps? :) |
| 23:16:58 | langhaarrocker | no |
| 23:17:08 | PsycoXul | well if it's supposed to be unix timestamps, i would guess it's the same format as the unix version? heh |
| 23:18:11 | dwihno | ;-) |
| 23:18:15 | dwihno | Mr Funnypants |
| 23:19:06 | pimlottc | there are standards about dates so hopefully they use the same format. although it's windows so I wouldn't hold my breath |
| 23:19:07 | PsycoXul | well from what i've heard windows does have some unix time compatability functions or somesuch in addition to it's own funky way of doing it |
| 23:20:32 | PsycoXul | but i dunno any details about any of it, and i could be wrong heh |
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| 23:23:00 | langhaarrocker | What I experienced is that when you change the _system_ date format it makes _Access_ parse date strings differently. That's a real monster whean you try to do international software. |
| 23:23:22 | dwihno | I guess QUADWORD isn't a standard? ;) |
| 23:23:48 | dwihno | unsigned long long ? |
| 23:23:55 | dwihno | unsigned long int ?:) |
| 23:24:01 | * | dwihno is out in the blue on this one |
| 23:24:25 | langhaarrocker | (singing) alalalalalong |
| 23:24:45 | Hadaka | no standard |
| 23:24:50 | dwihno | the long long long int song |
| 23:24:52 | Hadaka | for gcc it is 'long long' |
| 23:25:04 | dwihno | and for wintendo? |
| 23:25:09 | dwihno | REALLY_BIG_WORD ? :) |
| 23:25:16 | langhaarrocker | :) |
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| 23:25:41 | Hadaka | no idea about windows, __int64 |
| 23:25:41 | langhaarrocker | Now I want the data type VERY_MANY_BITS |
| 23:25:46 | Hadaka | err |
| 23:25:51 | Hadaka | it's, __int64, just asked a friend |
| 23:25:58 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 23:26:07 | PsycoXul | i thought it was a 32bit int on 32bit systems |
| 23:26:18 | PsycoXul | you know, the 2038 problem :p |
| 23:26:21 | Hadaka | what was? |
| 23:26:37 | PsycoXul | the date? |
| 23:26:45 | PsycoXul | or are we talking about something else now? |
| 23:26:49 | dwihno | Hadaka: even with gcc? |
| 23:27:04 | dwihno | Soon we'll have another 2k-holocaust! ;D |
| 23:27:25 | langhaarrocker | I'll be 68 and retired then. |
| 23:27:39 | PsycoXul | yeah but by 2038, 32bit computer's should be looking worse than a c64 does compared to modern computers today |
| 23:27:58 | Hadaka | um |
| 23:27:59 | PsycoXul | and 64bit int's can handle dates into year, what, 13 billion something? heh |
| 23:28:19 | Hadaka | for gcc: long long, for VC: __int64 |
| 23:28:26 | dwihno | Hadaka: thanks |
| 23:28:44 | Hadaka | and unsigned long long and unsigned __int64 foo |
| 23:28:53 | dwihno | so how do I print it? |
| 23:28:57 | dwihno | %lu won't cut it |
| 23:29:50 | Hadaka | hmm now that's trickier |
| 23:30:24 | Hadaka | %llu works on gcc |
| 23:30:27 | Hadaka | no idea about VC |
| 23:31:48 | dwihno | doesn't seem right |
| 23:31:56 | Hadaka | right? |
| 23:32:00 | dwihno | Well, my code :) |
| 23:33:08 | dwihno | I'm memcpying two aligned longs to produce the new value |
| 23:33:14 | Hadaka | eww |
| 23:33:25 | dwihno | ? |
| 23:33:35 | Hadaka | what about byteorders and other friendlies? |
| 23:33:41 | Hadaka | needing to care about those sucks |
| 23:33:49 | Hadaka | int main() |
| 23:33:49 | Hadaka | { |
| 23:33:49 | Hadaka | long long a = 1234123123123123LL; |
| 23:33:49 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Hadaka |
| 23:33:49 | Hadaka | printf("%lld\n",a); |
| 23:33:49 | Hadaka | } |
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| 23:34:03 | BoD[] | helllllllllowwwww |
| 23:34:34 | dwihno | Hadaka: -1369644109 |
| 23:35:14 | Hadaka | 1234123123123123 |
| 23:35:16 | dwihno | hm |
| 23:35:22 | dwihno | I get that value |
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| 23:35:49 | dwihno | gcc version 3.2 (mingw special 20020817-1) |
| 23:35:49 | dwihno | hm |
| 23:35:50 | Hadaka | just said gcc |
| 23:35:58 | Hadaka | gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease) |
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| 23:36:34 | dwihno | so what's the problem then? :) |
| 23:36:37 | dwihno | evilness? |
| 23:36:49 | langhaarrocker | I must snoze off. cu |
| 23:37:08 | Hadaka | lfoox.c:5: warning: ISO C89 does not support `long long' |
| 23:37:09 | Hadaka | foox.c:5: warning: ISO C89 forbids long long integer constants |
| 23:37:09 | Hadaka | foox.c:7: warning: ISO C89 does not support the `ll' printf length modifier |
| 23:37:15 | dwihno | cu langhaar |
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| 23:37:59 | fragglet | heh gcc |
| 23:38:14 | dwihno | gcc kicks :D |
| 23:38:16 | fragglet | the latest versions of gcc complain if the last line of a source file isnt empty |
| 23:38:28 | dwihno | Hadaka: how did you get that warning? |
| 23:38:30 | fragglet | has to end in an empty line |
| 23:38:46 | Hadaka | just -Wall -pedantic |
| 23:38:48 | fragglet | stupid pedantic nonsense |
| 23:39:08 | fragglet | oh you specified -pedantic |
| 23:39:09 | dwihno | test.c:4: warning: ANSI C does not support `long long' |
| 23:39:09 | dwihno | test.c:4: warning: ANSI C forbids long long integer constants |
| 23:39:17 | fragglet | i thought it was displaying that by default |
| 23:39:17 | dwihno | you get much cooler warning messages, Hadaka |
| 23:39:53 | dwihno | so my gcc is fux0red... ? |
| 23:40:13 | Hadaka | that was with gcc-3.2 btw |
| 23:40:29 | Hadaka | gcc version 3.2.1 20020912 (Debian prerelease) |
| 23:40:52 | dwihno | I get that error with all my mingw stuff |
| 23:41:20 | dwihno | I need 3.2.1? :) |
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| 23:41:50 | dwihno | it shouldn't be needed. |
| 23:42:08 | dwihno | gcc version 2.95.2 20000220 (Debian GNU/Linux) works |
| 23:42:25 | BoD[] | in my very humble opinion, rockbox should always compile with the last version of gcc |
| 23:47:19 | | Nick dwihno is now known as dwihno|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
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| 23:54:23 | Phantom | Hi |
| 23:54:32 | Phantom | bob ? |
| 23:54:39 | Phantom | somebody ? |
| 23:55:01 | PsycoXul | everybody just goes quiet when you get here |
| 23:56:10 | BoD[] | :) |
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