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00:21:29 | BoD[] | i go to bed now ! |
00:21:31 | BoD[] | bye !!! |
00:21:41 | tot|aewAei | huhu |
00:21:46 | tot|aewAei | my german |
00:21:48 | tot|aewAei | is ready |
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00:21:56 | TotMach3r | any german guy here ? |
00:22:00 | TotMach3r | to check ? |
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00:44:22 | TotMach3r | YEAH |
00:44:26 | TotMach3r | the osc R=XX |
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01:25:49 | m5jaz | Hello, can someone tell me where to find remoclone PIC code? |
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08:25:18 | LinusN | hey Zagor! |
08:25:25 | Zagor | hi |
08:31:58 | Zagor | i have busted the new font code. very frustrating. it works in sim but not in target. argh! |
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08:37:25 | mem_ | LinusN: god morgon! |
08:37:32 | LinusN | Zagor: a common problem |
08:37:34 | LinusN | Tjena Magnus! |
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08:38:25 | mem_ | LinusN: The "presentation" last Wednesday forced me to order a Recorder... |
08:38:40 | LinusN | i realized that |
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08:38:46 | Bagder | moo |
08:38:50 | LinusN | you didn't wait for the FM? |
08:38:55 | rwood | is anyone else having trouble getting genlang to work under cygwin? |
08:38:56 | LinusN | hi Bagder |
08:38:58 | mem_ | Bagder: good morning |
08:39:23 | Zagor | rwood: it could be a linefeed problem |
08:39:36 | Zagor | langhaarocker had problems yesterday |
08:39:45 | Bagder | it sure could be, yes |
08:39:53 | Bagder | I just fixed uplang in that aspect |
08:39:58 | mem_ | LinusN: I looked at Archos web page but couldn't see anything about a FM version. Is the FM version for real or just roumers? |
08:40:03 | rwood | i tried converting genlang and english to dos with no success - by the way, genlang isn't in the tarball |
08:40:13 | rwood | daily |
08:40:13 | Bagder | oops |
08:40:23 | mem_ | Zagor: good morning to you too |
08:40:57 | Bagder | rwood: me fixed now |
08:41:05 | Zagor | "Ljup urladdning"? Odd spelling :-) |
08:41:14 | Zagor | mem_: morn |
08:41:17 | Bagder | uh |
08:41:22 | Bagder | me a crap speller ;-) |
08:42:08 | LinusN | mem_: they recently published a press release |
08:42:22 | Bagder | we have a red build |
08:42:24 | LinusN | i think those models are due for christmas |
08:42:40 | Bagder | guess I made it |
08:42:47 | Zagor | guess so :-) |
08:43:20 | rwood | Zagor: with the fonts and languages being such major improvements, are you going to hold 1.4 til recording is added? |
08:43:33 | Bagder | Zagor: those bugs and features tables seems to work now, with working links etc |
08:43:38 | mem_ | LinusN: But if Archos don't say anything about it on the web how does ppl know? Inside info or just roumers? And I can't wait until Xmas... |
08:43:44 | Zagor | rwood: no, we'll be releasing a 1.4 without recording and file writing |
08:44:20 | rwood | Zagor: sounds good - could bring in many new users |
08:44:27 | Zagor | yup |
08:44:32 | Zagor | Bagder: goodie |
08:45:26 | LinusN | mem_: http://www.archos.com/uk/archos_news.html |
08:49:06 | mem_ | LinusN: Okay, but I _CAN'T_ wait that long :-) |
08:49:59 | mem_ | LinusN: I guess I have to buy the FM version when RockBox has support for that one :-) |
08:50:28 | LinusN | hehe |
08:51:56 | Bagder | who cares for radio anyway? ;-) |
08:52:32 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 13 minutes and 30 seconds at the last flood |
08:52:32 | * | mem_ cares for radio :-) |
08:59:06 | Zagor | LinusN: do you have time to rec-gdb something for me? |
08:59:35 | * | Bagder hopes for the builds to go green now any minute |
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09:00:08 | LinusN | Zagor: not really, but what is it? |
09:00:20 | Zagor | my silly font bug. i just can't see it. |
09:00:42 | Zagor | as soon as I call lcd_setfont(), target breaks. sim works dandy. |
09:01:24 | Zagor | it worked yesterday when cvs was down... |
09:02:17 | LinusN | send me the patch |
09:02:35 | Bagder | show me the code! ;-P |
09:02:42 | * | Bagder ducks |
09:02:53 | * | mem_ going for a coffee break |
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09:05:11 | LinusN | that's a helluva patch |
09:05:16 | Zagor | yes |
09:05:34 | Zagor | make a copy of your work dir and apply this there |
09:08:32 | Zagor | "...saw some posts here about a program called Rockbox...searched for it online...I LOVE IT...loox very koool and i like the way u search for songz....and the volume and ...just everything" |
09:09:12 | LinusN | i think he found the Rockbox MP3 playing program for Windoze |
09:10:07 | Zagor | haha, yeah probably |
09:13:41 | bobTHC | hi all! |
09:14:19 | LinusN | hi |
09:14:34 | Bagder | morning bobTHC |
09:14:54 | bobTHC | little pb "cvs [server aborted]: "commit" requires write access to the repository" |
09:15:13 | LinusN | bobTHC: have you checked out non-anonymously? |
09:15:16 | Bagder | bobTHC: you need to check out the repo using ssh and your account |
09:15:16 | Zagor | bobTHC: you need to login, not use pserver |
09:17:28 | bobTHC | ok i use ":ext: " ? |
09:17:34 | Zagor | yes |
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09:27:20 | Bagder | Zagor: did you see MasterOfMagic's comments on the isd200 driver yday? |
09:27:50 | Zagor | yes. i updated the isd200 page about it. i've heard it before. |
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09:27:55 | Bagder | aha, ok |
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09:52:21 | Bagder | have we made any adjustments in the key code for that ON issue? |
09:53:24 | Bagder | bug 595658 |
09:54:39 | LinusN | Bagder: what can we do? |
09:55:00 | Bagder | don't ask me, I ask you ;-) |
09:55:21 | LinusN | we can't adjust the code for a broken PORTB |
09:55:52 | LinusN | the ON key is digital |
09:56:21 | LinusN | either it works or it doesn't |
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09:57:17 | langhaarrocker | :( Linus doesn't like my thread. |
09:57:22 | LinusN | hehe |
09:58:07 | langhaarrocker | But it really improved the vu meter a lot. |
09:59:19 | langhaarrocker | It's because the quasi peak of the mas is lousy you miss a lot of peak values. -> reading lots of values decreased that risk dramatically |
09:59:19 | LinusN | i'm sure it did |
09:59:36 | LinusN | why is it necessary to not miss the peaks? |
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10:00:04 | LinusN | the VU meter is a toy anyway isn't it? |
10:00:34 | langhaarrocker | Because it's the peaks that are interesting. Only if you see a peek with every oomp you get the impression that the peak meter is related with the music. |
10:01:40 | LinusN | i see |
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10:02:32 | langhaarrocker | You can try it yourself easily by replacing the yield in the thread with a sleep(5), or so. |
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10:07:50 | Zagor | brace for impact... |
10:08:08 | * | Bagder gets strapped |
10:08:24 | langhaarrocker | (taking cover) |
10:08:38 | langhaarrocker | file writing? |
10:08:59 | Zagor | nah, major font code changes |
10:12:49 | langhaarrocker | I wished there was a way to really unregister a thread. |
10:13:07 | LinusN | you mean suspend it? |
10:13:47 | LinusN | no, we don't have that yet |
10:14:03 | LinusN | however, you can sleep(VERY_LONG_TIME); |
10:14:16 | LinusN | in a loop |
10:14:35 | LinusN | or better, wait on a queue |
10:14:56 | LinusN | but the problem isn't when the thread is "idle" |
10:15:08 | LinusN | it is when it is talking to the MAS like crazy |
10:16:05 | langhaarrocker | That's major improvement: before it was talking to the mas _and_ to the lcd like crazy. |
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10:16:35 | LinusN | :-) |
10:17:02 | tot | uhuh |
10:17:11 | tot | langhaarrocker ? |
10:17:14 | langhaarrocker | ? |
10:17:19 | tot | ja |
10:17:24 | tot | du sprichts doch deutsch |
10:17:26 | tot | haste nicht lust |
10:17:35 | tot | eben über meine deutsch.lang zu schauen ? |
10:17:45 | * | Bagder hides from the germans |
10:18:00 | langhaarrocker | maybe in the evening. |
10:18:14 | langhaarrocker | tot: Are you the result of TotMacher? |
10:18:24 | tot | yes :) |
10:18:24 | tot | TotMacher |
10:18:29 | tot | is my pc in office |
10:18:36 | tot | but i forgot to switch mirc off |
10:19:33 | langhaarrocker | have you sent your deutsch.lang to the mailing list? |
10:19:35 | tot | sonst noch jemand deutscher hier ? |
10:19:39 | tot | no |
10:19:41 | tot | only to zagor |
10:19:53 | Bagder | and he didn't correct it? B) |
10:19:58 | tot | hehe |
10:20:04 | * | tot slaps Bagder around a bit with a large trout |
10:20:10 | Bagder | Zagor's going soft ;-) |
10:20:48 | langhaarrocker | No problem: When Zagor fails there's always Linus to dislike my threads. |
10:20:59 | Bagder | hehe |
10:21:13 | LinusN | i'm a Code Police trainee |
10:21:22 | Bagder | if you want me to, I could ignore you on the list a bit too B-) |
10:21:36 | * | Bagder grins |
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10:21:58 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: you are only implementing rubbish! |
10:22:09 | tot | who did the osscillograph ? |
10:22:12 | LinusN | focus on the important issues! |
10:22:13 | * | Bagder falls off his chair laughing |
10:22:20 | Zagor | yikes, major reds |
10:22:40 | Zagor | ah, tools is not rebuilt |
10:23:07 | Bagder | exactly |
10:23:20 | Bagder | perhaps we should |
10:23:37 | Zagor | yes, would be good i think |
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10:24:21 | Zagor | will you fix? |
10:24:30 | Bagder | me fixorz |
10:26:56 | Bagder | it should be enough to do it once for all targets |
10:26:59 | Bagder | :-) |
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10:30:13 | LinusN | i just had the most fantastic experience! |
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10:30:35 | NHeal | brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net |
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10:30:35 | NJoin | Zagor [0] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
10:31:11 | LinusN | i just had the most fantastic experience! |
10:31:28 | LinusN | i examined a PCB returned from a customer |
10:31:48 | LinusN | it has an MPC821 processor |
10:31:52 | LinusN | a PowerPC |
10:31:59 | Zagor | bouncy bouncy |
10:32:02 | NJoin | Bagder [0] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
10:32:02 | LinusN | total crash on boot |
10:32:11 | LinusN | i fired up the debugger |
10:32:28 | Bagder | you have customers? ;-) |
10:32:28 | * | Bagder ducks |
10:32:31 | LinusN | hehe |
10:32:43 | LinusN | guess what was broke? |
10:33:02 | LinusN | bit 4 was stuck at 0 in register r3!!! |
10:33:13 | LinusN | cosmic radiation? |
10:33:36 | Zagor | LinusN: yikes |
10:33:36 | LinusN | only r3 was broke |
10:33:41 | Bagder | I think it is an evil conspiracy by the CIA and RIAA |
10:33:45 | LinusN | all other registers were ok |
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10:34:07 | Zagor | LinusN: maybe they put in in the autoclave |
10:34:51 | Bagder | and we are green |
10:35:10 | Zagor | oy, the build table looks a bit strnge |
10:35:29 | Bagder | just a few blanks ;-) |
10:35:47 | Bagder | I run it manually, that's why |
10:36:11 | LinusN | the PCB came back from Japan |
10:37:20 | Zagor | Bagder: now, class on the bug & feature tables |
10:37:42 | Bagder | any specific requests? |
10:37:53 | Zagor | class=bugs & class=requests |
10:38:05 | Bagder | on the TR ? |
10:38:12 | Zagor | no, the table |
10:38:17 | Bagder | ah, ok |
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10:39:08 | Bagder | try now |
10:39:25 | Bagder | hey Mats |
10:39:51 | matsl | hi Bagder. |
10:41:16 | Bagder | ah, changed font extension I see |
10:41:19 | matsl | Bagder: I just did, for my own amusement, a plain stupid translation for everything into swedish |
10:41:43 | Bagder | did you cvs update first? B-] |
10:41:53 | matsl | Bagder: I think so. |
10:41:56 | Bagder | or even, bring it in |
10:42:11 | Bagder | I asked because I added a bunch of swedish strings |
10:42:20 | * | matsl phones rings |
10:43:55 | Zagor | Bagder: you seem to filter out fixed bugs. i think they should be visible too. |
10:44:41 | Bagder | the script probably needs adjustments, but if we can just show it somewhere it'll be easier to work on the details |
10:44:49 | Zagor | status uses it now |
10:45:02 | Bagder | ok |
10:45:42 | Bagder | now, the fixed ones are included too |
10:46:06 | Bagder | is the date interesting? |
10:46:19 | Zagor | nah, but sorting is probably nice |
10:46:32 | Bagder | you mean custom or on a specific column? |
10:46:39 | Zagor | static |
10:46:44 | Zagor | 1:resolution, 2:prio, 3:id |
10:48:54 | * | matsl phone stops ringing |
10:49:54 | matsl | Bagder: I'll check it in. a bad translation helps others think of better ways to sait or? |
10:50:11 | matsl | sait/ say it |
10:50:17 | Bagder | sure |
10:50:30 | Bagder | bad swedish is better than english in the svenska.lang |
10:51:08 | matsl | some things are reallt hard to get right in swedish though. |
10:51:33 | Bagder | Zagor: sorting on resolution is tricky, as 'None' should probably come first... |
10:51:44 | Zagor | yup :-) |
10:51:59 | Zagor | but basic alphabetic is still better than unsorted |
10:52:18 | Bagder | we *could* make a lookup-table, if we really want to |
10:52:33 | Zagor | yup |
10:53:31 | matsl | Bagder: One thing though. The fonts on the player and å,ä and ö. |
10:54:04 | Bagder | what about them? |
10:54:13 | LinusN | new players don't have them |
10:54:41 | Bagder | but we have a translation table, don't we? |
10:54:46 | Zagor | we should probably fix a defaultchar table for new players, translating åäö to aao. |
10:54:49 | LinusN | new players don't have åäö |
10:55:09 | Bagder | Zagor: exactly my thinking |
10:55:10 | LinusN | Zagor: that would be better than nothing |
10:55:13 | matsl | or find good words in swedish without them |
10:55:24 | matsl | but that is hard |
10:55:30 | LinusN | or dynamically define customchars :-) |
10:55:39 | * | matsl phones rings |
10:55:40 | Zagor | matsl: good point. but filenames will always be a problem anyway. |
10:58:37 | * | matsl phone stops ringing |
10:58:46 | Bagder | Zagor: ok, I made a lookup table for the resolutions so that None gets before Works for me |
10:59:09 | matsl | Zagor: I know. grip fixes the bad chars for me anyway so I haven't noticed the åäö-problem my self. |
10:59:41 | Zagor | åäö are bad chars? :-) |
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11:00:34 | matsl | so what is the conclusion? check in with åäö and fix a translation table to aao? |
11:01:09 | Zagor | yse |
11:01:11 | Zagor | yes |
11:01:37 | matsl | how about the user defined chars. can't they be used? |
11:04:47 | Zagor | yup, they can up to the limit of course. would be a cool hack. |
11:05:51 | matsl | out of my scope now anyway. How much work is it with the translation table? |
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11:07:29 | Zagor | shouldn't be much work |
11:08:16 | Bagder | Zagor: it struck me that the CVS activity table use the full time as a hash, including seconds, so only the same commit within the same comment arrive on the same row |
11:08:29 | Bagder | within the same second |
11:08:50 | Zagor | Bagder: ah |
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11:42:43 | bobTHC | someone use cvs under win2k |
11:42:45 | bobTHC | ? |
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11:45:45 | langhaarrocker | I use WinCvs with Win2k but not on sourceforge. |
11:46:08 | bobTHC | i've some config pb... |
11:46:36 | bobTHC | u use it with ssh autentification ?? |
11:52:17 | langhaarrocker | no |
11:52:59 | bobTHC | it's my problem... i can use it without ssh but without any right... |
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12:11:43 | bobTHC | posting ssh key is requiere to have write right ??? |
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12:16:23 | bobTHC | zagor posting ssh key on sourceforge is requiere to have write access ??? |
12:16:52 | Zagor | no |
12:17:11 | Zagor | it's only required if you don't want to write your password for each cvs command |
12:18:08 | bobTHC | i can login me with my login/pass but he tell me "commit" requires write access to the repository |
12:19:11 | Zagor | you need to check everything out again. your directory is using the pserver (anonymous) repository |
12:22:34 | bobTHC | i make it yesterday with same result.... |
12:25:56 | Zagor | make a new dir, log in, check out |
12:27:08 | langhaarrocker | Oh! I finally earned to be listed in the credits! |
12:27:13 | Zagor | hehe |
12:28:49 | langhaarrocker | I must work harder. Maybe I'll manage to be nominated for a t-shirt. |
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12:36:19 | langhaarrocker | Is the peak meter patch labled 'Not to commit'? |
12:37:05 | kargatron | asked yesterday, no one seemed to know - is there any archived discussion about bookmarking plans/intentions that I could browse? |
12:38:12 | langhaarrocker | There are the feature requests on sourceforge. |
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12:38:52 | LinusN | kargatron: bookmarking is planned |
12:39:11 | LinusN | but we can't do it until we can write to the disk |
12:39:58 | kargatron | i knew bookmarking was planned - just wanted to get a feel for the particular implementations in minf. |
12:40:00 | kargatron | mind |
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12:40:13 | kargatron | e.g. auto-bookmarking of playlists when STOPped |
12:40:41 | kargatron | 'write to the disk' - thought that happened all the time with resume? |
12:41:17 | langhaarrocker | LinusN: Do you consider that peak meter thread hog too hoggy to commit it? |
12:41:31 | Hadaka | yo |
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12:42:38 | langhaarrocker | Hadak: does your 'yo' refer to the peak meter? |
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12:44:08 | LinusN | kargatron: yes, we write to specific sectors for the settings, but we can't generate files yet |
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12:44:41 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: nah, it only affects those who use the VU meter anyway |
12:44:42 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: i do |
12:45:01 | Hadaka | um, the yo was for bobTHC who had msg's me a while back |
12:45:52 | kargatron | is the setting 'space' limited? would auto-bookmarking take up too much? |
12:45:56 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: You consider it too hoggy or you do commit? |
12:46:22 | Zagor | i think it's too hoggy |
12:47:02 | kargatron | i mean auto-bookmarking as 'automatic resume per playlist' as resume works now, in ask mode |
12:47:29 | Zagor | kargatron: when we can write files, space is a non-issue |
12:47:48 | kargatron | of course |
12:47:51 | kargatron | was referring to before then |
12:48:17 | kargatron | i.e. we have resume now with sector-writing, would resume-per-playlist take up too much |
12:48:37 | Zagor | yes |
12:48:44 | kargatron | ah |
12:50:57 | freshmaker | the extension for font files was changed: s/fnt/fon/ why? clash with old mickeysoft windows font file extensions? |
12:51:03 | kargatron | and file-writing is what is the main thing behind the predicted v1.5: File Management? |
12:51:20 | Zagor | freshmaker: was it? |
12:51:56 | freshmaker | Zagor: it was 'system.fnt' before; now it is default.fon |
12:52:05 | Zagor | that's a mistake |
12:52:08 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: Is it the fact that there is another thread or the frequent mas communication what you consider too hoggy? |
12:52:18 | freshmaker | by whom? |
12:52:20 | Zagor | freshmaker: o |
12:52:24 | Zagor | i'm fixing it now |
12:52:32 | Zagor | byb me |
12:52:39 | Zagor | bleh, can't type toady |
12:53:04 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: the frequent MAS communication |
12:54:06 | Zagor | exactly. another thread is ok, busy polling is not. |
12:54:50 | LinusN | it isn't exactly busy polling |
12:55:14 | Zagor | freshmaker: fixed |
12:55:23 | freshmaker | thx! |
12:56:04 | Zagor | well ok, busy + yield, but it's still a massive cpu hog |
12:56:16 | kargatron | where's system.fnt looked at now, / or .rockbox? |
12:56:23 | Zagor | .rockbox |
12:56:37 | Zagor | it's /.rockbox/default.fnt |
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12:57:01 | Zagor | all boot-loaded files should be called 'default' |
12:57:11 | bobTHC | haaaaaaaaaaaa! i succesfully commit !!!! |
12:57:15 | Zagor | (unless the user specified another, of course) |
12:57:26 | Zagor | bobTHC: nice |
12:57:43 | bobTHC | after a total reinstall of tortoise and wincvs |
12:57:49 | Zagor | haha |
12:59:24 | LinusN | still, i can't think of a "better" way of MAS'ing |
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12:59:44 | LinusN | ok, sleep(1) may be slightly better... |
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13:00:08 | kargatron | ah, ok, so given that i'm on 920 build and don't have a default.fnt file, that means that fischer's bold font is canned now as default? |
13:00:08 | freshmaker | Zagor: Maybe you want to fix the simulator, too :-) |
13:00:08 | kargatron | couldn't tell yesterday, cuz it was the ugly one without a system.fnt |
13:00:08 | Zagor | kargatron: yes, default font is non-bold |
13:00:08 | Zagor | freshmaker: doh! :( |
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13:00:09 | kargatron | oops, confused. i meant 'canned' as in 'in the can', sorry - not dumped. |
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13:00:10 | kargatron | i have fischer's big readable font working on 0920, but have no default.fnt file (only system.fnt) |
13:00:10 | kargatron | wher's the font actually coming from? |
13:00:10 | Zagor | kargatron: we use Uwes font. i think it's from Xfree86 |
13:00:10 | freshmaker | kargatron: I made it |
13:00:27 | Zagor | freshmaker: did you make it from scratch? |
13:00:36 | freshmaker | kargatron: it was derived from old ROM fonts of C=64 and Atari 800 |
13:00:53 | Zagor | ah, that font. yes. but that's not the new system font. |
13:01:09 | kargatron | it looks exactly like the one i grabbed on fischer's suggestion a few adys ago. wondering what i'm looking at - yours, or this old one/ |
13:01:10 | kargatron | ? |
13:01:21 | Zagor | but it's a very nice font. 'å' could be better though :-) |
13:01:46 | Zagor | maybe i'm mixing up names... |
13:01:56 | kargatron | the one i'm looking at is very readable, but also big and bold looking. |
13:02:09 | freshmaker | Zagor: At first I had a copy of the Atari8x8 font from somwewhere. more and more changes were added. It was messy. Then I started from scratch with two sheets of the original chartables (C=64 and Atari 800) |
13:02:30 | Zagor | kargatron: the new font was committed this morning. it's called clR6x8.bdf |
13:02:52 | kargatron | ah, ok, i'm on the daily build, so wouldn't see it. gotcha |
13:03:03 | Zagor | right. try the bleeding edge build. |
13:03:45 | Zagor | freshmaker: you should make 'å' the same height as 'ä'. it looks a bit strange imho |
13:05:10 | freshmaker | I know. all small glyphs with accents should have the same x-height as all other small glyphs. but with effectively 7 pixels this is not possible. |
13:06:10 | freshmaker | So I decided to make at least most of the accented small glyphs the same x-height. works for ä but not for å |
13:11:13 | freshmaker | kargatron: i tried everything to reduce the 'bold' font (it's called Atadore = Atari + Commodore), but if I did so −− e.g. with 'o' or 'd' −− it was at the expense of readability |
13:11:53 | Zagor | freshmaker: it's a good font |
13:13:56 | freshmaker | Zagor: I showed my new Archos to my girlfirend; she said something like "piece of sh*t; can't read anything!". So I sat down to start looking for alternative fonts ;-) |
13:14:37 | Zagor | hehe. yeah, our previous font was really ugly |
13:18:00 | Zagor | uwes new font is not as good as the old, imho |
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13:25:20 | freshmaker | Zagor: Why did he change 'E' 'F' and 'L'? That's a regression, imho |
13:25:25 | Zagor | i agree |
13:25:34 | Zagor | i'm responding to his mail |
13:27:40 | Zagor | oh, it's dwinos font! |
13:34:01 | freshmaker | Zagor: Yes, I thought you're aware of that |
13:35:19 | freshmaker | Zagor: It doesn't build anymore: stops at makeing in apps because EXTRA_DEFINES is unquoted -> investigating... |
13:35:22 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: how slow can you do the MAS reading with acceptable results? |
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13:35:48 | LinusN | is 100Hz too slow? |
13:38:55 | Zagor | builds for me |
13:39:22 | LinusN | freshmaker: run configure again |
13:40:57 | freshmaker | LinusN: I found the problem: in tools/configure line 372 |
13:41:22 | freshmaker | LinusN: missing double quotes |
13:41:25 | Bagder | yes |
13:41:47 | Bagder | my bad |
13:42:55 | Bagder | fix committed |
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13:43:08 | freshmaker | thanks |
13:45:29 | freshmaker | I'm looking for comments to the scrollbar patch I sent to the list |
13:45:59 | LinusN | you mean the one that hides it? |
13:46:23 | freshmaker | yes, but only when the scrollbar is not necessary |
13:46:26 | LinusN | i tried it, and i like it |
13:46:44 | LinusN | i want to apply it, but i want it to be optional |
13:47:01 | freshmaker | that's the expected behavior of scrollbars, i think |
13:47:08 | LinusN | more options for the scrollbar setting: "on", "off", "when needed" |
13:47:45 | LinusN | that's just my opinion |
13:47:55 | LinusN | i hope someone else can comment on this |
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13:48:16 | freshmaker | to make everything optional can lead to featuritis, too. |
13:49:25 | LinusN | true |
13:50:19 | freshmaker | ahh, just looked into the source for global settings. the byte is full: converting it into a tri-option would not fit that easily |
13:51:38 | LinusN | yeah, we'll have to move things around a little |
13:52:00 | LinusN | but as you said, we can apply it as it is too |
13:52:10 | LinusN | i just want more opinions |
13:53:50 | b0bTHC | for me 3 scroolbar setting is good |
13:55:03 | matsl | about options: With so many options around and now also lang-support wouldn't it be cool if you could through the webbpage configure your and build you mod? |
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13:55:42 | Bagder | matsl: that's a cool idea |
13:55:52 | b0bTHC | a cgi based page who build ure version |
13:56:30 | matsl | jupp |
13:56:59 | kargatron | agree sith fresh - default scrollbar obviously (to me) 'when needed' |
13:57:05 | kargatron | s/sith/with |
13:58:06 | freshmaker | kargatron: let me carify: you want a dual option: 'off' or 'when needed', right? |
13:58:45 | kargatron | 3's ok too, but i see n osubstantial objection to having 'when needed' but no 'on' |
13:59:15 | kargatron | i.e. can't see the 2-option being a burden |
13:59:56 | freshmaker | kargatron: it costs a bit, literally |
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14:00:07 | LinusN | me neither, i can get used to the "when needed" behaviour |
14:01:12 | kargatron | is there a single place that the wps config var names are defined? |
14:01:31 | kargatron | looking but can't find (but i'm no c coder, so maybe not surprising) |
14:01:54 | kargatron | you know, fn, pe, ia, etc |
14:02:38 | Bagder | wps-display.c I believe |
14:03:42 | Zagor | the "keep LED on when writing" request is tricky. due to caching, the write command finishes long before the data is actually on disk. |
14:04:01 | Zagor | kargatron: wps-display.c |
14:04:23 | kargatron | just grepping there doesn't show any defs. eg. 'fv' only shows up in a default format call - can't see where fv corresponds to some entity |
14:04:25 | Bagder | Zagor: a little delay on the led-off is probably all it takes, even though not an exact indicator |
14:04:38 | LinusN | Zagor: i have a very good solution to the LED problem |
14:04:45 | Zagor | kargatron: it's a char-by-char parsing. |
14:04:47 | Bagder | kargatron: the checks are split in to, one check for the first letter and then a check for the second mostly |
14:04:55 | kargatron | oh |
14:04:59 | Zagor | LinusN: tell me |
14:05:02 | langhaarrocker | LinusN: I'm @ work now. I'll try to find slower mas readout in the evening (which is in about 6 hours here). |
14:05:06 | LinusN | a timed LED-off |
14:05:13 | Zagor | how long? |
14:05:30 | LinusN | well, perhaps 0.2s, just enough to be able to see the LED |
14:05:45 | LinusN | using a hardware timer and an IRQ |
14:05:47 | Zagor | it doesn't help. the led will go off long before the write is finished |
14:06:04 | LinusN | ? |
14:06:05 | Zagor | we're talking >1 second here |
14:06:34 | LinusN | hmmm |
14:06:40 | Zagor | the ATA write command finishes immediately, because the disk caches the request. then it spins up the disk and flushes the data. |
14:06:52 | LinusN | Zagor: disable the write cache then |
14:07:08 | Zagor | that's probably best, yes |
14:07:17 | LinusN | write caching is mostly evil anyway :-) |
14:07:33 | Zagor | it's very nice when we implement file writing... |
14:07:42 | LinusN | how dynamic can we make it? |
14:08:20 | Zagor | i'm not sure. reading... |
14:09:18 | freshmaker | brb |
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14:16:39 | Bagder | oh, new bug list |
14:17:05 | LinusN | yeah, but it doesn't refresh |
14:17:12 | Bagder | no |
14:17:20 | Bagder | once per day or something |
14:17:30 | Bagder | its a 500K xml download |
14:17:49 | LinusN | woo |
14:17:53 | Zagor | imho it should update twice a day: 18.00 and 06.00 |
14:18:14 | LinusN | sure |
14:18:21 | Bagder | our time you mean? |
14:18:28 | Zagor | yes |
14:18:36 | LinusN | you mean there are other times? |
14:18:41 | LinusN | :-) |
14:18:59 | Bagder | crontab installed |
14:19:10 | LinusN | k00l |
14:21:06 | Bagder | Zagor: you plan on popping up the feature request list somewhere too? |
14:21:13 | Bagder | that could be quite neat |
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14:21:49 | Zagor | yes. i plan to point the menu links to our own pages, with just a "submit" link to the sf page |
14:22:01 | Bagder | that's a good idea imo |
14:25:03 | freshmaker | ok, i'm back. anything new in the scrollbar dual option / tri option discussion? |
14:28:27 | LinusN | no, most people so far think that two options is good |
14:28:40 | Bagder | so let's do that first |
14:28:50 | Bagder | and face the criticism on the list later ;-) |
14:28:58 | LinusN | rubbish! |
14:29:04 | Bagder | we do rubbish |
14:29:16 | LinusN | rubbish are us |
14:29:29 | LinusN | all your rubbish are belong to us |
14:29:31 | Bagder | toys n' rubbish are us |
14:30:20 | b0bTHC | 2 is good 3 too but 2 is sufficient |
14:31:24 | LinusN | b0bTHC: well said |
14:31:55 | Zagor | i agree |
14:32:22 | LinusN | so who applies it? |
14:32:42 | Zagor | i'm going out a few hours, so you fight about it :-) |
14:33:08 | LinusN | chicken! |
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14:39:39 | freshmaker | what is the upper limit for the code size of the firmware? |
14:40:12 | LinusN | about 200Kb i guess |
14:40:26 | LinusN | the limit is really the Archos loader |
14:42:05 | freshmaker | crap. i have code for a softmodem (~450k). i thought since we couldn't send unencoded data through SP/DIF ... ;-) |
14:42:44 | LinusN | :-) |
14:45:12 | b0bTHC | a lot of thing can be done with this amazing device ;) |
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14:49:48 | b0bTHC | u think it possible to make Vmanager with 80Kb ? |
14:50:03 | b0bTHC | Vmanager : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=601927&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
14:53:25 | Hadaka | hm |
14:57:08 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: is there any way to simplify wormlet.c? it's currently the second largest code segment |
14:57:24 | b0bTHC | i said 80k because the code is actually near 100k and with new other improvement and recording functions ... i think 80k is overestimated.... |
14:58:12 | b0bTHC | 200kb is very small!!! |
14:59:01 | b0bTHC | by the way it's always possible to make it as a individual *.ajz file lauch by rolo .... |
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15:01:10 | Hadaka | is the archos loader really a problem? I mean you can let it load a stub and load a 2 megabyte one from the disk yourself? |
15:01:55 | Zagor | Hadaka: yes. let's hope we don't need that :-) |
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15:26:15 | Hadaka | does require group foo bar require the user to be in either of the groups or both? |
15:26:23 | Hadaka | whops |
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15:40:15 | elinenbe | 25 commits!!! WOW! |
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16:02:13 | b0bTHC | what''s up with "recent cvs activity" ??? on the website? |
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16:04:21 | quelsaruk | hi |
16:04:39 | LinusN | yo |
16:06:23 | b0bTHC | what''s up with "recent cvs activity" ??? on the website |
16:06:58 | b0bTHC | ok good now |
16:07:57 | freshmaker | sometimes it's emtpy for me, too. a forced reload fixes it usually |
16:08:00 | LinusN | it disappears briefly when it is updated |
16:08:13 | b0bTHC | ok.. |
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16:19:23 | LinusN | yo Bagder2 |
16:19:32 | Bagder2 | hey |
16:20:17 | Bagder2 | I got my TV setup now for divx from my computer |
16:21:03 | LinusN | great |
16:21:19 | Bagder2 | had to get the latest matrox drivers first though |
16:21:25 | LinusN | ah |
16:21:29 | Bagder2 | and mess with that silly windows OS |
16:21:48 | b0bTHC | for minor change like adding a double quote, i commit instantly? |
16:22:02 | LinusN | sure |
16:22:03 | Bagder2 | I installed the graphics driver, installed the new one and rebooted and had to reinstall my USB-card drivers! ;-O |
16:22:27 | LinusN | naturally :-) |
16:22:45 | b0bTHC | micro$oft silly rulez! |
16:23:05 | quelsaruk | LinusN: how manny characters fits in the player screen? |
16:23:10 | Bagder2 | unfortunately the matrox driver for X is not good enough |
16:23:17 | LinusN | 11 |
16:23:51 | quelsaruk | and in the recorder? |
16:23:56 | quelsaruk | :) |
16:23:59 | Bagder2 | depends on the font |
16:24:05 | quelsaruk | system font |
16:24:20 | quelsaruk | i mean.. the default one |
16:25:15 | Bagder2 | quelsaruk: count |
16:25:16 | Bagder2 | ;-) |
16:25:25 | quelsaruk | ainnssss |
16:25:38 | quelsaruk | i hve a horrible week |
16:25:56 | quelsaruk | i wish i could sleep for 1 month or maybe a year |
16:26:44 | b0bTHC | spanish ppl ca sleep a year ? ;) |
16:26:55 | quelsaruk | no |
16:27:09 | quelsaruk | but i could, maybe i have no problems |
16:27:11 | b0bTHC | U make me afraid ! |
16:27:39 | LinusN | bue guys! |
16:27:42 | LinusN | bye |
16:27:45 | b0bTHC | bye |
16:27:53 | Bagder2 | bye LinusN |
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16:33:22 | Bagder2 | hi edx |
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16:34:06 | edx | hi |
16:34:26 | b0bTHC | who finally win the tshirt contest ? |
16:35:09 | Bagder2 | well, we'd like to keep that a secret until we present the complete design of the official rockbox tshirt |
16:35:24 | Bagder2 | that's why it takes a little time |
16:36:08 | b0bTHC | info classified.... |
16:37:17 | b0bTHC | I'm impatient ... to see it on u in photo !!! |
16:38:13 | Bagder2 | :-) |
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16:50:44 | quelsaruk | arghh spanish translations are to large! |
16:51:09 | quelsaruk | i can't fit all words in the correct spaces |
16:51:35 | b0bTHC | it's very hard for specially for player id ... |
16:51:35 | Bagder2 | well, most lines can scroll so its not always a very big deal |
16:52:18 | b0bTHC | s/very hard/hard ;) |
16:52:29 | quelsaruk | the worst part is wormlet game |
16:52:49 | quelsaruk | just 7 characters for "growing" |
16:52:56 | quelsaruk | in spanish is "creciendo" |
16:53:07 | quelsaruk | i must zip it |
16:53:12 | quelsaruk | or something like that |
16:54:13 | quelsaruk | Bagder2: we left 2 lines that can be deleted |
16:54:23 | quelsaruk | the LANG_BACKLIGHT_ON id |
16:54:34 | quelsaruk | we just have id and desc |
16:54:59 | Bagder2 | I think I'll write me a script that checks that all ids are used |
16:55:01 | quelsaruk | and.. it's not used anywhere, i used LANG_ON instead of that id |
16:55:21 | quelsaruk | all are used.. except that one |
16:55:50 | quelsaruk | i made the .lang file in "real-time", changing each string with an id |
16:57:46 | quelsaruk | i think me sould write at the begining of english.lang how manny characters does the player accept without scrolling and the recorder using the default font |
16:58:32 | Bagder2 | I don't |
16:58:39 | quelsaruk | why? |
16:58:53 | Bagder2 | 1. the lines scroll 2. the default font will not be used on a large amount of recorders |
16:59:30 | quelsaruk | "keylock on" scrolls ? |
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16:59:51 | Bagder2 | ok then, most lines scroll |
16:59:59 | quelsaruk | :) |
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17:00:13 | quelsaruk | i was thinking in those kind of lines |
17:00:25 | quelsaruk | of course lines in a menu scroll |
17:01:42 | quelsaruk | but as allways.. as you wish (please don't kill me!! :) |
17:02:41 | Bagder2 | well, the info is of course useful |
17:04:33 | quelsaruk | may i include the info then? |
17:05:04 | Bagder2 | I think it is better put in the "how to translate rockbox" document |
17:05:12 | quelsaruk | yea |
17:05:16 | quelsaruk | better idea |
17:05:18 | quelsaruk | :) |
17:05:28 | quelsaruk | does that document exist ? |
17:05:32 | Bagder2 | no |
17:05:33 | Bagder2 | :-) |
17:05:46 | Bagder2 | but we should create it |
17:05:55 | quelsaruk | i don't know why.. but i suspected that answer |
17:06:13 | quelsaruk | and include it also at the web? |
17:06:15 | edx | do you still need a German translation, btw? |
17:06:20 | Bagder2 | quelsaruk: yes |
17:06:37 | Bagder2 | edx: there was one posted just a little while ago |
17:06:37 | quelsaruk | :) |
17:06:44 | edx | Bagder2: ok then |
17:06:59 | b0bTHC | review comment and correct |
17:07:33 | b0bTHC | u are a german peer ;) |
17:08:17 | | Nick Bagder2 is now known as Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
17:08:53 | | Nick b0bTHC is now known as bobTHC (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
17:10:41 | quelsaruk | spanish lang is being reviewed, commented and corrected right now.... but as there are only 2 spanish at rockbox, i have picked up some slaves to work on it :) |
17:11:15 | bobTHC | :) |
17:12:12 | Bagder | hehe |
17:14:37 | quelsaruk | well, i think it's time to work again in repeat on/off |
17:15:46 | quelsaruk | bagder, will you delete LANG_BACKLIGHT_ON from english.lang or may i send you a patch for that? :) |
17:16:15 | langhaarrocker | quelsaruk: I was thinking about weakening the requirements for wormlet translations. I'm thinking about 'nationalizing' the size of the game field. So if the strings are too large the field simply shrinks. |
17:16:27 | | Nick dwihno|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) |
17:16:27 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dwihno |
17:16:29 | dwihno | Hello ppl! |
17:16:33 | Bagder | hey dwihno |
17:16:40 | dwihno | langhaar, thanks for your assistance last night! :) I slept pretty well :) |
17:16:43 | dwihno | Hello Bagder |
17:17:13 | quelsaruk | umm |
17:17:16 | langhaarrocker | nice not to be useles. |
17:17:41 | dwihno | :-) |
17:17:49 | dwihno | Now I need to solve my 64 bit mingw issue :) |
17:17:50 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: that could help me... i have to put "hambriento" replacing "hungry" and don't know how!!! |
17:19:01 | langhaarrocker | On the other hand international wormlet contests would become a bit unfair... |
17:19:03 | dwihno | "Code-policed font code" |
17:19:04 | dwihno | YAY! |
17:19:22 | dwihno | The Code Police ruuules :) |
17:19:23 | dwihno | pm |
17:19:29 | Bagder | the RCPD |
17:19:48 | dwihno | *update CVS* |
17:19:48 | langhaarrocker | R like Rockbox? |
17:19:54 | dwihno | C for community? |
17:20:04 | Bagder | C for code |
17:20:07 | dwihno | hm |
17:20:10 | quelsaruk | that's right langhaarrocker, i think whe should fit our text in the field |
17:20:18 | Bagder | "Rockbox Code Police Department" |
17:21:46 | bobTHC | beware the RCPD !! |
17:22:33 | Bagder | and stop writing rubbish! ;-P |
17:22:41 | dwihno | *compile a new firmware* |
17:24:24 | bobTHC | in witch language? ;) |
17:24:34 | langhaarrocker | c? |
17:24:47 | bobTHC | english ? |
17:24:53 | langhaarrocker | java? |
17:24:56 | dwihno | ../firmware\librockbox.a(font.o)(.data+0x0): undefined reference to `sysfont' |
17:24:59 | quelsaruk | Bagder: is it posible to download a nationalized-firmware form rockbox ? |
17:25:01 | dwihno | a new file perhaps... |
17:25:55 | Bagder | quelsaruk: I'm thinking about setting up a "build your own firmware page" on the site for that, but I haven't done anything like it yet |
17:26:12 | Bagder | I mean, to have the site build a custom firmware on demand |
17:26:20 | hardeep | holy red batman |
17:26:43 | quelsaruk | interesting |
17:26:44 | Bagder | oooooo |
17:26:45 | quelsaruk | :) |
17:27:59 | dwihno | edx: update the win32 makefiles ;D |
17:28:58 | hardeep | use cygwin and you'll never have to worry about the win32 makefile again! =) |
17:29:08 | dwihno | I'm considering it |
17:29:11 | quelsaruk | or use linux |
17:29:13 | quelsaruk | :P |
17:29:16 | dwihno | Zip it up for me and let me download it, hardeep :) |
17:29:24 | dwihno | quelsaruk: that's a typical nono |
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17:29:33 | * | dwihno requires the evil wintendo gear! |
17:29:34 | Bagder | merwin has a download package somewhere |
17:29:38 | quelsaruk | dwihno: do you want cygwin? |
17:29:47 | hardeep | dwihno: cygwin is something you want to install using the provided installer... it's quite simple to use |
17:29:48 | dwihno | quelsaruk: si, si |
17:29:59 | quelsaruk | ok, wait a few minutes |
17:30:08 | * | dwihno is hungry |
17:30:11 | quelsaruk | and start downloading from my computer |
17:30:21 | dwihno | ate a puny salad this lunch |
17:30:30 | quelsaruk | T3 conection.. i hope it's good enough for u |
17:30:52 | * | dwihno gives everybody a great tip of quick'n'easy food: a slice of white loaf bread, some cheese, and some bbq spices and oregano |
17:30:57 | dwihno | and voila - evil kickass yumyum :) |
17:31:03 | dwihno | yumyum(tm) |
17:31:18 | dwihno | quelsaruk: muy bien! :D |
17:31:40 | quelsaruk | you'll all finish speaking spanish!! |
17:31:47 | Bagder | stupid me |
17:31:51 | dwihno | is it possible to build the simulator with cygwin btw? |
17:31:53 | quelsaruk | its a promise! |
17:32:43 | langhaarrocker | A language that exceeds the wormlet wordlengths? I'm too lazy for that. |
17:33:33 | quelsaruk | spanish |
17:34:50 | bobTHC | a french version!!!! ;) |
17:36:49 | dwihno | C'est parfait! :) |
17:36:58 | * | dwihno is the lingo quizmaster |
17:37:14 | dwihno | Que pasa? Muy bien! Une hamburgesa con keso, por favor! |
17:37:18 | dwihno | MUY GRANDE! :D |
17:37:28 | Bagder | hey, it spells "queso" :-) |
17:37:57 | langhaarrocker | cannibalists! |
17:38:26 | langhaarrocker | You shouldn't eat people just because the come from Hamburg. |
17:38:33 | quelsaruk | yea.. it's queso, but i always speak using k... is shorter |
17:38:35 | quelsaruk | :) |
17:39:11 | bobTHC | really international chat hoy ! |
17:39:33 | Bagder | yeah, if only JFK had went to Hamburg instead of Berlin |
17:39:39 | Bagder | "Ich bin ein ..." |
17:39:45 | bobTHC | ;) |
17:41:05 | bobTHC | and its macdo who win the cold war ! |
17:41:44 | quelsaruk | mar da bra Bagder? (or something like that) |
17:42:47 | Bagder | hehe |
17:42:56 | quelsaruk | mar du bra? |
17:42:58 | quelsaruk | ummm |
17:43:07 | quelsaruk | i can't remember quite well |
17:43:11 | bobTHC | pienso que es possible de communicar en una idioma collectiva que puede ser Esperanto |
17:43:50 | quelsaruk | wao bobTHC What language where you trying to speak? |
17:44:18 | bobTHC | Catalan hombre ! |
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17:44:34 | * | Bagder can feel that friday feeling here |
17:44:52 | dwihno | Bagder est une hombre! :D |
17:44:54 | quelsaruk | catalan is not a language (as they say, it's a short spanish) |
17:45:01 | bobTHC | Castellano ! |
17:46:06 | quelsaruk | Pero, ¡buen hombre! ¿acaso quieres hacerme perder los papeles y permitir que el *gran jefe* me regañe? |
17:46:10 | quelsaruk | :P |
17:46:13 | quelsaruk | no more spanish |
17:46:19 | quelsaruk | just that |
17:46:22 | quelsaruk | :) |
17:47:19 | bobTHC | I think catalan is a Language ! like Occitan or Euskara |
17:48:05 | bobTHC | End for *el Gran jefe" No te preocuparce ;) |
17:48:11 | quelsaruk | well it's a language |
17:48:54 | quelsaruk | but we have some "problems" in my country just because some stupids don't believe they are part of the same country |
17:48:56 | bobTHC | Imagine the log on the Rockbox site ! |
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17:49:42 | quelsaruk | well, it's friday |
17:50:15 | bobTHC | it's not friday wear it's friday chat ! |
17:50:39 | bobTHC | a little bit of fun in this serious world... |
17:52:23 | quelsaruk | hey! |
17:52:41 | quelsaruk | has anyone his car out there? they have just stolen one |
17:52:56 | quelsaruk | you are not secure even at university |
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17:55:18 | Bagder | ah, we're green again |
17:55:52 | bobTHC | bye all folks ! and good weekend !!! |
17:56:06 | Bagder | see ya bobTHC |
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17:56:32 | quelsaruk | green? |
17:56:40 | Bagder | the builds |
17:56:43 | quelsaruk | ahh |
17:56:44 | quelsaruk | :) |
17:57:43 | hardeep | quelsaruk: you're working on repeat on/off right? how's it going? |
17:58:15 | quelsaruk | well.. it works if you don't skip any song, so, it doesn't work |
17:58:16 | quelsaruk | :) |
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18:00:48 | hardeep | hmmmm |
18:04:10 | quelsaruk | hardeep: it's smoke what goes outside your head? :) |
18:08:00 | quelsaruk | was just a joke... |
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18:15:56 | quelsaruk | Bagder: i've seen that spanish is a language option if you build yourself rockbox |
18:16:16 | quelsaruk | but, there's isn't a espanol.lang file yet |
18:16:18 | Bagder | no |
18:16:23 | Bagder | there is no spanish file |
18:16:36 | Bagder | the configure only display the languages that you have |
18:16:43 | quelsaruk | ahhh |
18:16:52 | quelsaruk | that's why |
18:16:53 | quelsaruk | :) |
18:16:57 | Bagder | hehe |
18:17:01 | quelsaruk | i have an spanish file |
18:17:08 | Bagder | you do, so you can use it ;-) |
18:17:13 | quelsaruk | :) |
18:17:43 | Bagder | you tried running it on target with spanish yet? |
18:17:55 | Bagder | I had mine on swedish over lunch |
18:17:56 | quelsaruk | not yet |
18:18:27 | quelsaruk | i'm testing repeat on/off |
18:18:55 | quelsaruk | so i'll use english, if there's any problem i'm sure it will be the repeat setting, not spanish translation |
18:18:59 | quelsaruk | :) |
18:20:04 | quelsaruk | hardeep: you use cygwin? |
18:22:15 | quelsaruk | doesn't matter |
18:22:16 | quelsaruk | :) |
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18:26:57 | hardeep | quelsaruk: yes, i use cygwin |
18:27:39 | quelsaruk | today i'm on windows |
18:28:23 | quelsaruk | and i'm trying to use cygwin, so when i run make i have a strange error |
18:28:42 | quelsaruk | /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/ADMINI~1/CONFIG~1/Temp/cclbeZFn.s:4: Warning: .type pseudo- |
18:28:43 | quelsaruk | op used outside of .def/.endef ignored. |
18:29:18 | quelsaruk | i have no idea what on hell does this mean |
18:29:35 | hardeep | heh, i haven't a clue either... never seen anything like that before |
18:30:01 | quelsaruk | yupiii |
18:30:16 | hardeep | are you sure you're using the right "make" and "gcc" etc. |
18:30:26 | hardeep | ie. the ones provided by cygwin |
18:30:55 | quelsaruk | the error is mine.. only mine... (like gollum and the ring) |
18:31:11 | quelsaruk | yea.. and downloaded from rockbox the sh1 cross compiler |
18:31:45 | hardeep | but are you sure those are the ones being used... is your PATH environment variable correct |
18:32:17 | quelsaruk | seems to be ok, it really doesn't matter |
18:32:26 | quelsaruk | tomorrow i can work again on linux |
18:33:02 | quelsaruk | so one more day without testing the repeat setting will not kill anyone |
18:33:17 | quelsaruk | it was curiosity |
18:33:27 | hardeep | still doesn't hurt to get the win32 compile fixed for the next time you are forced to use it. :) |
18:33:41 | hardeep | what's compiling when you see the error? |
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18:35:53 | quelsaruk | sh-elf-gcc -W -Wall -O -m1 -nostdlib -ffreestanding -Wstrict-prototypes -Iinclud |
18:35:53 | quelsaruk | e -I. -Icommon -Idrivers -DARCHOS_RECORDER -DDISABLE_NOTHING -fomit-frame-pointe |
18:35:53 | quelsaruk | r -fschedule-insns -c drivers/adc.c -o /home/Administrador/rockbox/drivers/adc. |
18:35:53 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK quelsaruk |
18:35:53 | quelsaruk | o |
18:36:21 | quelsaruk | this was the last *normal* message i got |
18:36:43 | quelsaruk | after this.. a lot of errors like the one i pasted |
18:36:49 | quelsaruk | ummm |
18:36:52 | quelsaruk | i must go |
18:36:54 | quelsaruk | see you later |
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18:57:39 | dwihno | hmm |
18:59:00 | dwihno | damn cygwin |
18:59:02 | dwihno | it bugs out on me |
18:59:10 | dwihno | so now I'm getting the entire folder of cygwin stuff ;) |
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19:15:02 | Phantom | Hi ! |
19:15:07 | Phantom | an idea : |
19:15:55 | Phantom | add two or three "blanks" parts in "credits.c" to allow translator ad their name... |
19:18:26 | Phantom | as a thanks for there work they should be in credit... |
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20:13:40 | dwihno | Greetings Zagor! |
20:14:08 | Zagor | hi |
20:15:05 | dwihno | I greet thee, master of Code Writing! :D |
20:15:51 | TotMacher | WHINE |
20:15:55 | TotMacher | my german translation |
20:16:00 | TotMacher | :(( |
20:16:00 | TotMacher | :) |
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20:17:03 | * | Zagor bows humbly |
20:20:19 | * | dwihno is gonna build a cross compiler on his shell |
20:21:30 | * | dwihno does NOT like cygwin ;) |
20:21:34 | * | dwihno likes gnush |
20:22:52 | * | dwihno thinks the three musketeers rule! |
20:24:41 | dwihno | Zagoramis, Linuhos and Porthger |
20:24:42 | dwihno | ;-) |
20:24:50 | Zagor | hehe |
20:25:43 | m5jaz | hello, Can anyone tell me where I find the PIC code for remoclone? |
20:29:14 | Zagor | m5jaz: in the mailing list archive. way back, like march or something. |
20:30:01 | Zagor | i should probably put it on the "hardware mods" page |
20:31:15 | m5jaz | that would be great! thanks... I will look again. |
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21:05:33 | Phantom | HI ! |
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21:15:51 | quel|out | see you! |
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21:47:08 | dwihno | Zagor: "and left the funny N as it was" :) Yay! My font is still (a bit) intact! :) |
21:47:34 | Zagor | yup. i'm not sure I like the new rounded E and F, though |
21:47:57 | dwihno | Hmm |
21:48:13 | dwihno | If you are the Code Police (tm), maybe I should become your sidekick, FontDude ;) |
21:48:59 | dwihno | can you publish your ajz? |
21:49:22 | dwihno | (it won't build) |
21:49:37 | Zagor | grab a bleeding edge build. i have nothing special in mine. |
21:49:47 | dwihno | :-) |
21:49:57 | dwihno | Your builds are Code Police certified! :) |
21:50:44 | * | dwihno tries to find the bleeding edge builds page on the rockbox site |
21:51:19 | Zagor | the bottom of the daily build page |
21:51:23 | dwihno | btw.. |
21:51:31 | dwihno | you're supposed to tell the t-shirt winner :) |
21:54:27 | dwihno | please tell me! :) |
21:55:48 | dwihno | PLEASE! |
21:56:10 | Zagor | hehe. my lips are sealed... :-) |
21:56:59 | dwihno | FOR HEAVENS SAKE! |
21:57:14 | dwihno | Bagder told me last night the winner was to be announced today! |
21:57:15 | dwihno | TODAY! |
21:57:24 | dwihno | :) |
21:57:27 | dwihno | Come on Zagor |
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22:00:11 | dwihno | You zag zag zag0r! :) |
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23:12:23 | werty1st | hello |
23:12:28 | LinusN | hi |
23:13:08 | werty1st | i´ve just downloaded the daily build |
23:13:36 | werty1st | but i couldn´t find a way to turn of the repeat funktion |
23:13:48 | LinusN | there is no way, yet |
23:14:19 | werty1st | so if i fall asleep i always wake up with an empty battery |
23:14:55 | LinusN | you will do that regardless |
23:15:02 | LinusN | we have no auto-shutdown either |
23:16:01 | werty1st | don´t u know the commands how to shut down the jukebox |
23:17:02 | werty1st | but any way i like the software very much great work |
23:18:08 | werty1st | i first used the software because the original software always had this quite background noise |
23:19:50 | NHeal | brunner.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net |
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23:35:33 | Phantomdjp | hi all |
23:36:11 | LinusN | hi |
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23:46:20 | Phantomdjp | is there somebody? |
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