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| 00:02:39 | Zagor | LinusN: got it working now, it was not an mpeg problem |
| 00:04:48 | LinusN | what was it then? |
| 00:04:56 | Zagor | bad wps code |
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| 00:05:51 | LinusN | radhard: thanks a bunch |
| 00:06:38 | langhaarrocker | ah, radhard. |
| 00:06:38 | langhaarrocker | your logarithm approximation does a fine job in the peak meter now. |
| 00:06:58 | radhard | np. Hi Langhaar, glad to hear it worked out well. Sorry, missed you last time... |
| 00:08:22 | langhaarrocker | I made a really horrible function to calculate the inverse. I hope someone will get so annyed by it that he replaces it by something better. |
| 00:08:48 | Jet8810 | hey guys |
| 00:08:50 | Jet8810 | does anybody have a wifi router for sale? |
| 00:09:00 | radhard | When i've finished the remote discussion, we could work out detaild that'll speed things up, if u like. By the way: Does anybody know, which pin the remote pin is on the processor of recorder/player? Can't find it in the schematics. |
| 00:09:02 | Zagor | i have one, but I use it :-) |
| 00:09:12 | Zagor | they are dirt cheap, why do you need a used one? |
| 00:10:42 | radhard | typo -> details. What is wifi? |
| 00:10:55 | Zagor | 802.11b |
| 00:10:59 | Zagor | wireless networking |
| 00:11:39 | langhaarrocker | Can you plug it into the archos? So do I need it? |
| 00:12:14 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: hehe, no |
| 00:13:18 | radhard | Ah, ok. They're cheap? Well, at least not in germany. I'd like two have two units, but don't want to pay 200$ each. |
| 00:14:31 | langhaarrocker | radhard: I'm not sure but I believe that I've seen something at Saturn for 79 €. With two units. |
| 00:15:09 | radhard | Thought you didn't now what they were? |
| 00:15:26 | langhaarrocker | Just didn't know the abbreviation. |
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| 00:17:03 | elinenbe | post this topic to the yahoo! group and to funmp3players.com |
| 00:17:10 | elinenbe | also to the rockbox mailing list. |
| 00:17:12 | elinenbe | :) |
| 00:17:17 | radhard | Ok, then I know where to go tomorrow. Yeeeeha, just figured out the answer to microsofts annoying question! |
| 00:17:19 | Zagor | radhard: my Netgear MR314 sells for ~$110 |
| 00:17:30 | elinenbe | you guys are doing a great job. |
| 00:19:33 | radhard | Hi elinenbe! Sorry, missed you when joining the channel. agree: They sure did! |
| 00:20:18 | BoD[] | what ms questions ?? |
| 00:20:39 | radhard | zagor: I like netgear, got a switch from them. But if i can get two for 75EURO, that'll be great. |
| 00:20:50 | radhard | Where do you want to go today? |
| 00:21:15 | Zagor | radhard: yup |
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| 00:24:41 | rad[writing | Will be writing specs now, should finish befor 2:00.. |
| 00:30:13 | langhaarrocker | Good night. (I guess some of you should be sleeping, as well) |
| 00:31:06 | LinusN | night |
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| 00:35:17 | rad[writing | night |
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| 00:48:42 | Mine78 | I bought a archos 6000 for 130Dollars... is it a good price ? |
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| 00:56:02 | BoD[] | see you bye ! |
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| 00:58:00 | _seb_ | does '@' exist in the player fontset? |
| 00:58:05 | Zagor | yes |
| 00:58:10 | _seb_ | thanks |
| 00:58:56 | Zagor | at least new players |
| 00:59:07 | Zagor | ah, old players too |
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| 01:16:49 | elinenbe | Zagor: some impressive coding. |
| 01:16:59 | elinenbe | Time for me to switch to a new client! |
| 01:17:26 | Zagor | thanks |
| 01:18:18 | Zagor | rather trivial coding, i'd say :-) |
| 01:18:35 | elinenbe | yeah, but it is grunt work that had to get done :) |
| 01:18:47 | elinenbe | fun but annoying coding. |
| 01:19:10 | elinenbe | just think when the MAME project switched to a new driver format... 4000+ drivers had to be redone! |
| 01:19:40 | Zagor | hehe |
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| 01:29:43 | rad[writing | What sort of drivers did you work on? |
| 01:30:53 | elinenbe | I worked on none. |
| 01:32:16 | rad[writing | Ah, thought you wrote impressive driver code. |
| 01:34:04 | rad[writing | Just asking 'cause zagor said it is impressive. I've just got the compiler working and now try to understand the rockbox software. It's very interesting! |
| 01:34:48 | Zagor | what did I say was impressive? |
| 01:35:37 | rad[writing | Oops, sorry, was way round. elinenbe said you did impressive coding! |
| 01:36:01 | Zagor | ah, right. he was just sucking up, though ;-) |
| 01:37:45 | rad[writing | I think I'll need some time to work through all the rockbox code. I's all very impressive, especially when compiled and let break out ;) |
| 01:38:26 | Zagor | someone just said today the rockbox code is bigger than the Lord Of The Rings novel :-) |
| 01:39:50 | rad[writing | True? I'm happy with the little 1k that is already build in ;) |
| 01:40:30 | rad[writing | You're one of the grandfathers of rockbox? |
| 01:40:58 | Zagor | I'm *the* grandfather actually |
| 01:42:12 | rad[writing | Amazing, from a LED blinker to the thing i see know... Rockbox was one of the reasons for me to buy one... |
| 01:42:30 | Zagor | yeah, we've come a long way |
| 01:43:02 | rad[writing | Can you estimate, how much time you invested in this project? |
| 01:43:16 | Zagor | ooh, that's hard... |
| 01:44:03 | Zagor | somewhere between 500 and 1000 hours, I would guess |
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| 01:44:59 | Foxinou | Hi all |
| 01:45:19 | Foxinou | i already posted the results of my survey on www.funmp3players.com |
| 01:45:30 | Zagor | Foxinou: excellent |
| 01:45:43 | Foxinou | I am the only one with a player :( |
| 01:45:56 | Zagor | :) |
| 01:46:05 | Foxinou | can u tell me one thing... |
| 01:46:21 | rad[writing | That's a lot for doing it as a hobby! It's the first open source project, i'm involved in and what i see here is great. I also appreciate very much that some professionals of IBM take part in the Linux devellopment. They are walking with great steps, as you do here... ;) |
| 01:46:50 | Foxinou | I don't know if i can use languagge file... and how to do it if it is possible... |
| 01:47:40 | Zagor | Foxinou: you need the daily build, not 1.3. then you download and play a lang file from http://rockbox.haxx.se/lang/ |
| 01:48:01 | Zagor | rad[writing: heh |
| 01:48:11 | Foxinou | taht's all?.... like a .wps file or an *.mod file ? ok |
| 01:48:52 | Zagor | Foxinou: exactly |
| 01:49:15 | rad[writing | Did Archos try to hire you? |
| 01:49:45 | Zagor | rad[writing: no, they haven't said a word to any of us |
| 01:50:18 | Foxinou | Héhé I live at maybe 10kms from Archos France... But never went to visit them yet ;-) |
| 01:50:22 | Zagor | they did want to contract me last summer, for working on the multimedia. but they bailed out when they got my offer. |
| 01:51:11 | rad[writing | They'd better do ;) Microsoft tried to hire the guy who broke into the X-Box. Nice story, btw! |
| 01:51:49 | Zagor | well, Archos aint Microsoft. And I doubt I'd want to work for either :-) |
| 01:52:08 | rad[writing | What was your offer? 50k/month might be a bit too much ;) No, me not too |
| 01:52:13 | Foxinou | Hey guys... do you think Archos has stopped working on their firmwares (because there is rockbox) ? |
| 01:52:45 | rad[writing | Maybe they fired the deveopers... :-) |
| 01:52:51 | Zagor | rad[writing: my offer was 800euro/hour, if I recall correctly. standard fare. |
| 01:53:07 | Zagor | 80euro, i mean :-) |
| 01:53:23 | rad[writing | Was a little shocked... |
| 01:53:24 | Foxinou | oh ok :) 800euros was a bit too much lol |
| 01:53:49 | Zagor | Foxinou: i don't think they change any decisions because of Rockbox. They are probably just more busy with the Multimedia. |
| 01:54:20 | Foxinou | Zagor > Maybe they will link to Rockbox one day... |
| 01:54:36 | rad[writing | I already thought: He, man, what are you doing here? Are you an idiot writing software for 80 Euro? Ok, thats sounds much better to me. It's not overpaid for a good programmer AND systems guy! |
| 01:54:40 | Zagor | haha, yeah. maybe pigs will fly one day... :-) |
| 01:55:30 | Zagor | they used to link to my isd200 driver page. i wonder if that link is still there. |
| 01:55:46 | Foxinou | i am trying your language file...now |
| 01:56:14 | rad[writing | did they give you the schematics or did you figure them out by yourselves? |
| 01:56:53 | Zagor | we did it ourselves, using multimeters and pen-and-paper... |
| 01:58:05 | rad[writing | Wow. Hope at least it wasn't too much work? They're looking quite good. Is it eagle? Might want to add some things from time to time... |
| 01:58:34 | _seb_ | hi everybody |
| 01:58:50 | _seb_ | I think I'll become a more active idler from now on since I have finally installed rockbox and am super impressed |
| 01:59:13 | Foxinou | hi seb |
| 01:59:15 | Zagor | no, unfortunately it's not eagle. that's why they are a bit out of date. |
| 01:59:22 | Zagor | _seb_: hehe |
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| 02:00:13 | rad[writing | I know a PCB desgner who owes me one. Do think it's worth/necessary to redo them? |
| 02:00:29 | rad[writing | Basides: What format is it? |
| 02:00:35 | rad[writing | besides... |
| 02:00:43 | Zagor | i don't remember, some commercial program. we should use eagle. |
| 02:00:45 | Foxinou | Zagor > the lang file does not work for me... there is no icon before francais.lng in the ./rockbox directory. I can't "play" it... i use one of today's cutting edge mod |
| 02:01:02 | Zagor | Foxinou: what model do you have? |
| 02:01:52 | Foxinou | player |
| 02:01:58 | Foxinou | jb6000 |
| 02:03:16 | _seb_ | yeah that reminds me, wps files don't work for me (studio20/1.3) |
| 02:03:18 | Zagor | Foxinou: you downloaded the .lng file, right? not the .lang file. |
| 02:03:35 | Zagor | _seb_: loadable wps was not in 1.3 |
| 02:03:45 | _seb_ | zagor: I thought so because I saw it on todo for 1.4 |
| 02:03:48 | _seb_ | just wanted to check |
| 02:04:03 | Zagor | _seb_: yeah. 1.4 is coming Real Soon |
| 02:04:09 | Foxinou | Zagor > yes the lng not lang |
| 02:04:17 | Zagor | Foxinou: it works fine for me |
| 02:05:11 | Foxinou | Zagor > I have icons for folders, mods, wps, but not for lng files |
| 02:05:37 | Zagor | Foxinou: do you see the lng file at all? |
| 02:07:15 | Foxinou | now it works... i loaded the cvs 021009 and it works |
| 02:07:25 | Zagor | good |
| 02:09:07 | Foxinou | Zagor > u and rockbox really rule ! |
| 02:09:16 | Zagor | :-) thanks |
| 02:09:24 | _seb_ | are most devs from sweden or just the founding ones? |
| 02:09:53 | Zagor | just the founding ones. the rest are spread out over the world |
| 02:09:58 | Foxinou | Zagor > I hope you will soon put the "queue" feature .... |
| 02:10:40 | Foxinou | Zagor > I really miss the Queue feature... :~( |
| 02:10:52 | _seb_ | je n'ai jamais utilise queue parce que je l'ai trouve trop buggy :) |
| 02:11:11 | _seb_ | in the original archos firmware |
| 02:11:57 | Foxinou | Seb > t francais ? |
| 02:12:09 | _seb_ | no, but I learn german and french in school |
| 02:12:44 | _seb_ | de quelle region de france est-ce que tu viens? |
| 02:12:48 | Foxinou | Seb > héhé ahc so ich verstehe... Ich habe auch Deutsch gelernt |
| 02:13:11 | _seb_ | cool :) |
| 02:13:23 | Foxinou | Seb > Du sprichst sehr gut französisch... |
| 02:13:48 | Foxinou | I am now in Paris aber i am from Tours... do you know ? The Loire Valley... |
| 02:13:51 | Zagor | i'm off to bed. see you later |
| 02:13:58 | _seb_ | night zagor |
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| 02:14:01 | Foxinou | yBye Zagor |
| 02:14:03 | _seb_ | foxinou: yes, I know it |
| 02:14:05 | rad[writing | Nihjt! |
| 02:14:12 | _seb_ | but I've never been there, I've only been in alsace |
| 02:14:21 | rad[writing | night! |
| 02:14:21 | Foxinou | Seb > ach so ok |
| 02:15:16 | Foxinou | so where are u from seb ? |
| 02:16:19 | _seb_ | I'm from New Jersey, in the Etats-Unis |
| 02:17:00 | elinenbe | I'm in New York |
| 02:17:05 | _seb_ | cool :) |
| 02:19:13 | Foxinou | it is 02;19 here...quite late |
| 02:19:46 | _seb_ | foxinou: ca me ne deplait que mon clavier est des Etats Unis parce que je ne peux pas typer les accents |
| 02:22:03 | _seb_ | so what's up all |
| 02:22:17 | _seb_ | wie geht's dir rad |
| 02:22:27 | _seb_ | comment ca va foxinou |
| 02:24:22 | Foxinou | seb es geht mir gut |
| 02:24:30 | Foxinou | aber ich bin mûde |
| 02:24:37 | _seb_ | ok wir koennen uns auch auf deutsch unterhalten :) |
| 02:24:39 | Foxinou | müde |
| 02:25:17 | _seb_ | ich bin auch ziemlich muede obwohl es hier nur 8:25 abends ist |
| 02:25:53 | _seb_ | mais j'ai beaucoup de devoirs et il faut que je les complete |
| 02:26:22 | Foxinou | oki oki |
| 02:27:56 | _seb_ | connais-tu un bon dictionnaire anglais-francais-anglais (online)? |
| 02:28:22 | _seb_ | maintenant j'utilise ceci: http://humanities.uchicago.edu/forms_unrest/FR-ENG.html |
| 02:28:50 | Foxinou | wait... |
| 02:29:37 | Foxinou | http://www.reverso.net/textonly/default.asp is good |
| 02:31:06 | _seb_ | ok merci |
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| 02:54:49 | _seb_ | be back soon |
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| 03:26:04 | rad[writing | ok spec V0.1 is ready an i'm really tired. Have to go. Bye! |
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| 04:10:49 | adiamas | howdy... |
| 04:10:55 | _seb_ | hi |
| 04:10:58 | adiamas | damnit.. they are never around when i need them |
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| 07:48:40 | * | Bagder can smell release in the air |
| 07:49:20 | * | mecraw cheers |
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| 08:14:55 | adi|home | bagder got a present for you... |
| 08:15:05 | Bagder | cool! |
| 08:15:09 | * | Bagder likes presents |
| 08:15:10 | adi|home | you want it? |
| 08:15:21 | Bagder | beam it over |
| 08:15:31 | adi|home | dcc or email? |
| 08:15:50 | Bagder | pick one ;-) |
| 08:16:13 | adi|home | k.. ill dcc one min |
| 08:24:45 | adi|home | lol.. i think my opera browser blew up |
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| 08:29:53 | Schnueff | moin |
| 08:30:05 | Bagder | morning |
| 08:30:06 | calpefrosch | morning |
| 08:31:16 | Bagder | hm, my operators both DNS servers have died... :-/ |
| 08:31:48 | calpefrosch | hups :-S |
| 08:31:55 | calpefrosch | the remote control is only working in one direction yet, right ? |
| 08:32:02 | Bagder | yes |
| 08:32:37 | calpefrosch | who is working on this issue ? |
| 08:33:09 | Bagder | I'm not ;-) |
| 08:34:01 | calpefrosch | ah |
| 08:36:07 | calpefrosch | I want to build two additional parts for the jukebox. First a IR-remote-control and sony car interface. can we put both projekt data on your cvs ? |
| 08:36:35 | Bagder | sure |
| 08:37:16 | calpefrosch | ok, do you have a module for additional files ? |
| 08:37:46 | Bagder | we should probably create a new module or perhaps two for those things |
| 08:38:43 | calpefrosch | yes, good. |
| 08:43:19 | calpefrosch | is there a standard user to checkout on cvs, like anonymous ? |
| 08:43:29 | calpefrosch | I mean, on sourceforge ? |
| 08:43:42 | Bagder | yes |
| 08:43:47 | Bagder | anonymous |
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| 08:44:16 | Bagder | :pserver:anonymous@cvs.[project].sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/[project] |
| 08:44:28 | calpefrosch | hmm, I wanted to checkout a projekt, the gnunilink projekt, and with anonymous he ask me for a password :-( |
| 08:44:38 | Bagder | right, just press enter |
| 08:44:52 | calpefrosch | I tried, didn't work |
| 08:45:11 | calpefrosch | -> :ext:anonymous@cvs.gnunilink.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/gnunilink |
| 08:46:50 | calpefrosch | hmpf, it was pserver |
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| 08:49:55 | Bagder | my operator plays tricks on me today |
| 08:57:30 | Synthe | do y'all really want me to DL bleeding edge build and install it on my machine? |
| 08:59:35 | Bagder | the latest daily is fine too ;-) |
| 08:59:49 | Synthe | what happens if it toasts my recorder? |
| 08:59:53 | Synthe | it has rolo built in right? |
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| 09:00:00 | Bagder | yes it does |
| 09:00:06 | Bagder | and it won't toast your recorder |
| 09:00:30 | Synthe | what do I rename my old ajbrec.ajz to in order to be able to use it with rolo if the need arises? |
| 09:00:53 | Bagder | to whatever you like, just keep the extension the same (.ajz) |
| 09:03:54 | Synthe | finally got repeat on/off in there :) |
| 09:05:02 | Bagder | yeps |
| 09:05:03 | Synthe | so who do I report this HW info to now? |
| 09:05:12 | Bagder | linus at haxx.se |
| 09:05:21 | Synthe | just email it to him? |
| 09:05:27 | Bagder | yeps, it'll be fine |
| 09:08:31 | Synthe | kewlio |
| 09:09:05 | Synthe | is there a way for me to just play the entire contents of a dir and all subdirs yet? |
| 09:09:21 | Bagder | nope, not without making that in a playlist |
| 09:09:41 | Synthe | thats what I figured, so I have to figure out before I go to bed what I want to listen to that night and make a playlist |
| 09:10:28 | Bagder | right, if you don't just create a set of various lists once and for all and use one of them |
| 09:10:43 | Synthe | I do, but I've got over 50 playlists now :) |
| 09:10:57 | Bagder | :-) |
| 09:11:01 | Synthe | when the entire HD is full, there are a lot of options |
| 09:11:10 | Bagder | yeps |
| 09:11:22 | Synthe | I'm actually thinking of getting a 40gb drive to put in this for practical reasons, not just for bragging rights like I do with my TiVo |
| 09:15:23 | b0bTHC | good morning al |
| 09:15:31 | Bagder | morning bob |
| 09:17:30 | b0bTHC | the web site is down? |
| 09:17:42 | Bagder | no |
| 09:17:43 | Bagder | ? |
| 09:18:18 | b0bTHC | it's good now 4 refresh after... |
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| 09:43:41 | calpefrosch | one last question, I didn't understand all of the discussion. Do we need a hardware mod for the bidirectional remote control ? |
| 09:44:32 | Bagder | As far as i've understood, yes |
| 09:44:40 | Bagder | but I'm not the expert on this |
| 09:44:42 | b0bTHC | :) |
| 09:45:45 | b0bTHC | it's a very intersting idea and that's seems to progress quickly... |
| 09:47:08 | calpefrosch | but not for the normal remote... |
| 09:47:43 | b0bTHC | imagine a tiny remote with lcd with tweakable proper WPS.. really an amazing thing! |
| 09:48:10 | calpefrosch | yes, sure. but not if we all need a hardware mod. I don't want to lose my waranty |
| 09:49:08 | b0bTHC | If i understand, no HW mod needed. |
| 09:50:10 | b0bTHC | only based on the stock remote pin on the EAR pin |
| 09:50:30 | b0bTHC | Erar jack |
| 09:50:32 | calpefrosch | I'm really fascinated too, I could imagine many cool applications |
| 09:55:13 | adi|home | Bagder: you around? |
| 09:55:18 | Bagder | yah |
| 09:55:32 | adi|home | the feature request about 180 rotation |
| 09:55:41 | adi|home | that would work for the recorder but not for the player |
| 09:55:44 | Bagder | I know, I'm crazy |
| 09:55:45 | adi|home | even with your suggestion |
| 09:55:50 | Bagder | :-) |
| 09:55:52 | adi|home | no way to turn the letters sideways |
| 09:55:56 | adi|home | R |
| 09:55:59 | adi|home | O |
| 09:55:59 | adi|home | b |
| 09:55:59 | adi|home | o |
| 09:55:59 | adi|home | x |
| 09:56:12 | adi|home | it comes out: Rocobox |
| 09:56:18 | adi|home | silly |
| 09:56:18 | adi|home | still left to right :) |
| 09:56:21 | Bagder | I thought about that too 2 seconds after I pressed submit ;-) |
| 09:56:35 | adi|home | hehehe |
| 09:57:04 | adi|home | so.. Bagder |
| 09:57:16 | adi|home | if i moved to sweden.. what are the chances of me getting ajob with your company ;) |
| 09:57:43 | Bagder | at the moment, very slim. Times are bad. |
| 09:58:06 | adi|home | damn.. its a global thing |
| 09:58:08 | * | adi|home sighs |
| 09:58:11 | * | adi|home wants a job |
| 09:58:12 | Bagder | yes it is |
| 09:58:33 | * | adi|home is tired of being unemployed... |
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| 10:01:49 | adi|home | lol |
| 10:01:54 | adi|home | someone screwed up |
| 10:01:57 | adi|home | Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e14' |
| 10:01:57 | adi|home | [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]The query contained only ignored words. |
| 10:02:59 | b0bTHC | i have a little idea for the bouncing thing.. why don't using the name of the playing songrather than just rockbox |
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| 10:53:06 | bobTHC | what u think about my bouncing proposition? |
| 10:53:14 | Bagder | it's a good idea |
| 10:54:33 | bobTHC | @boot my device says 1.17i and when i look in HW info it's 1.18... |
| 10:55:25 | Bagder | yeps, that's a funny details |
| 10:55:32 | Bagder | -s |
| 10:56:20 | bobTHC | i resolve my pb on win2k when i want "eject" my device, that's work now |
| 10:57:06 | bobTHC | it was a usb driver pb, i reinstall usb controler driver with newer and thats work find now |
| 10:57:23 | Bagder | goodie |
| 10:58:37 | bobTHC | i dont understand because @ the beginig that's work, and after it doesn't work, reinstall with newer driver and reworks |
| 10:59:04 | bobTHC | funny win2k :( |
| 10:59:20 | bobTHC | always kidding! |
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| 11:10:02 | Bagder | darned linus and Zagor hide today ;-) |
| 11:10:53 | Schnueff | why is this? :) |
| 11:10:59 | Bagder | I don't know |
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| 11:38:41 | bobTHC | hi zagor! |
| 11:38:46 | Zagor | hi |
| 11:40:06 | adi|home | so.. zagor.. find me a job yet? |
| 11:40:22 | Zagor | :-) |
| 11:40:34 | adi|home | figures.. |
| 11:40:38 | adi|home | you god damn swedes |
| 11:40:41 | adi|home | can't ask you to do anything... |
| 11:40:45 | * | adi|home smirks |
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| 12:21:41 | Zagor | does anyone understand what Jason is talking about re backlight-always-on? |
| 12:28:53 | Zagor | anyone seen linus today? |
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| 12:50:26 | Zagor | bah |
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| 12:53:17 | Zagor | ok, i give up |
| 12:56:45 | Schnueff | i have a feeling, that it could be about the initialization of charger_was_inserted in backlight.c |
| 12:57:18 | Schnueff | i'll think about it |
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| 13:02:09 | Schnueff | hm dunno |
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| 13:35:09 | Zagor | time for a partition debug screen |
| 13:35:28 | Bagder | before 1.4? |
| 13:35:31 | Zagor | yes |
| 13:35:45 | Zagor | it's a simple job, and it will be valuable having in the release |
| 13:36:50 | Zagor | can someone look at jason's bug? |
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| 13:41:02 | Bagder | which package might have a qstring.h header file? |
| 13:41:07 | Bagder | any guess? |
| 13:41:33 | Zagor | good question |
| 13:41:37 | Schnueff | qt? |
| 13:41:47 | Schnueff | http://doc.trolltech.com/3.0/qstring-h.html |
| 13:41:49 | Zagor | good guess |
| 13:42:06 | Bagder | hm, ok, thanks |
| 13:43:11 | Bagder | fltk it seems |
| 13:43:18 | Bagder | it has some qt-emul layer |
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| 13:55:57 | bobTHC | for the search engine someone work on it? |
| 13:57:51 | Zagor | bobTHC: you mean the id3 database? |
| 13:58:51 | bobTHC | i don't know if it's with id3 database but someody talk about search algorythm a couple of week ago |
| 13:59:04 | bobTHC | to find tracks |
| 13:59:21 | Zagor | yes, that was it |
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| 14:00:00 | bobTHC | but he doesn't talk about DB he planned to scan directly the files if i remember well |
| 14:00:28 | Zagor | he did, but that was much much too slow |
| 14:01:53 | Zagor | part screen done |
| 14:02:20 | * | Bagder has subscribed to lots of mailing lists today... |
| 14:02:45 | Bagder | lots of tiny-web-browsers out there |
| 14:03:41 | Zagor | hehe |
| 14:04:07 | Zagor | news from the client, then? |
| 14:04:38 | Bagder | yeah, I'm about −−-> <−−- this close to start for real now, this is just some ramping up before it starts for real |
| 14:05:08 | Zagor | nice |
| 14:05:10 | Bagder | btw, we might use microwindows |
| 14:05:17 | Bagder | Greg's baby |
| 14:05:30 | Zagor | ah, cool |
| 14:05:44 | Bagder | "The ViewML browser, along with it's user interface comes in around 2MB" |
| 14:06:18 | Zagor | what about the tiny one we looked at before? dillo or something like that. |
| 14:06:44 | Bagder | it has at least 3 silly problems I found on the first test site we've got from the makers of the server side |
| 14:06:54 | Zagor | oh |
| 14:07:07 | Bagder | and, if I bypass those, it |
| 14:07:16 | Bagder | still didn't show the html the way I'd wanted it to |
| 14:07:48 | Bagder | nothing's decided yet, I'm just investigating what's available |
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| 14:18:39 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 14:36:49 | Zagor | we're approaching release |
| 14:37:46 | Zagor | the manual is a sore spot, though |
| 14:42:52 | Schnueff | help on target would be nice |
| 14:43:33 | Zagor | yeah |
| 14:44:16 | Schnueff | and perhaps would encourage developers to keep it up-to-date |
| 14:45:17 | Schnueff | or whoever |
| 14:46:10 | bobTHC | wap file (*.wml) or true html ? |
| 14:46:46 | Zagor | help on target will be normal text |
| 14:47:21 | Schnueff | one file per 'screen' should suffice |
| 14:47:47 | bobTHC | wml viewer can be great ! well formated text is more clear! ;) |
| 14:48:14 | bobTHC | for help or other things |
| 14:48:37 | bobTHC | it's just an idea of course and not a request |
| 14:48:46 | Schnueff | hehe |
| 14:49:07 | bobTHC | wha u think about that ? |
| 14:49:35 | Zagor | if you write it, i will consider it. generally, though, wml is not a nice format. |
| 14:50:18 | bobTHC | i know it's a ugly format but widespread format |
| 14:50:56 | bobTHC | editor and viewer for all platfoem already exist |
| 14:51:22 | Zagor | html is heaps better, if you want formatted text |
| 14:51:30 | Zagor | no editor necessary |
| 14:51:34 | bobTHC | :) |
| 14:52:57 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 14:55:57 | bobTHC | ure right if screensize is not a pb |
| 15:00 |
| 15:02:24 | Zagor | wml does not affect screensize, only file size. and with gigs of harddisk space, file size is not an issue |
| 15:14:44 | | Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABC60.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:19:15 | Zagor | hi edx |
| 15:27:27 | edx | hi |
| 15:27:36 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 15:28:26 | Topic | "Release 1.4 is tagged in CVS. Only the manual is left." by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 15:30:11 | edx | Zagor, can you tell me: in the hardware survey - what do these values stand for? ;) |
| 15:30:46 | edx | Rom is ok.. then USB - is that USB 2 capability? |
| 15:31:38 | Zagor | no, it's the polarity of the usb_detect signal |
| 15:31:43 | edx | aha. |
| 15:32:03 | Zagor | mask is what we believe/hope is a hardware compatibility mask |
| 15:32:13 | Zagor | ata is the base address for the ata controller |
| 15:32:17 | edx | the ATA value can be 0x200 or 0x300, right? and it is some version for something...? |
| 15:32:21 | edx | aahh ok |
| 15:32:44 | edx | what do you mean with "hardware compability mask"? |
| 15:32:59 | edx | and where do you get it from? |
| 15:33:01 | Zagor | there are dozens of little differences between recorders that we spend a lot of effort detecting. this is an effort to get a bigger grip on that. |
| 15:33:17 | Zagor | we read it from the ROM firmware, the same as the ROM version |
| 15:33:33 | Zagor | you will note that the rom version and the displayed version are not always the same... |
| 15:33:56 | edx | aha.. so the mask is containing all that differences and is put together by the above values? |
| 15:34:16 | edx | yes, noticed that already. |
| 15:34:37 | Zagor | we don't know 100%. the mask is a value we read from the rom, not something we create ourselves. we *hope* we can use the mask instead of having to detect all the differences ourselves. |
| 15:35:08 | edx | yes that would be great.. thanks for explaining that to me - i still have to do the survey myself.. will do that in a sec |
| 15:39:18 | edx | i fear i damaged my jukebox somehow.. |
| 15:39:33 | edx | it just shuts down (and maybe reboots) sometimes.. |
| 15:39:55 | edx | its like every 20 minutes or so - not regularly - the more i move it the more it reboots.. :/ |
| 15:40:10 | Zagor | sounds like a loose connection somewhere |
| 15:40:28 | edx | yup. |
| 15:41:13 | edx | i have not removed the warranty seal yet.. and somehow i dont feel like it's a good idea to do that (im a complete technical idiot) |
| 15:41:16 | | Join Bagder2 [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 15:43:37 | edx | Zagor: can i also answer to a thread using the news server? |
| 15:43:49 | Zagor | edx: i think so. i have never tried it, though |
| 15:43:56 | edx | ill try |
| 15:44:02 | edx | what is PR btw..? |
| 15:44:17 | Bagder2 | its a register used for recording |
| 15:44:36 | Bagder2 | or something like that ;-) |
| 15:46:08 | edx | and the frequency? |
| 15:46:15 | Zagor | cpu freqency |
| 15:46:42 | edx | ahh.. good |
| 15:46:54 | edx | (thought that already) |
| 15:46:59 | Zagor | check out http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/dir.html |
| 15:47:13 | Zagor | is the (r) and (p) notation too confusing? is there a better way? |
| 15:47:36 | Bagder2 | you need to have an explanation on the page somewhere |
| 15:47:51 | edx | nice. - is r = recorder, p = player? |
| 15:48:25 | Zagor | yes |
| 15:48:31 | Zagor | it's explained on the front page |
| 15:48:32 | Bagder2 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/tshirt-contest/winner/ |
| 15:48:42 | Bagder2 | mail coming up rsn |
| 15:48:43 | edx | ok.. with that knowledge its not confusing |
| 15:48:46 | edx | pretty good :) |
| 15:48:58 | edx | Bagder2: yeahu!! |
| 15:49:31 | edx | will you publish the complete results somewhere? :) |
| 15:49:45 | Bagder2 | possibly |
| 15:50:50 | edx | "Before the message is posted on the newsgroup, you have |
| 15:50:50 | edx | to confirm that you exist. Just reply to this message, and |
| 15:50:50 | edx | the message will be posted. |
| 15:50:51 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK edx |
| 15:50:51 | edx | " |
| 15:50:57 | edx | so the message will be postet to the newsgroup. |
| 15:51:19 | Zagor | sounds good |
| 15:52:29 | edx | jeez! that authorizer is fast. |
| 15:52:37 | edx | replied and 5 seconds later i got a response |
| 15:54:30 | Zagor | seen linusn |
| 15:54:41 | #>> | "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 15:55:03 | Zagor | lost in space |
| 15:55:07 | bobTHC | :) |
| 15:55:45 | Zagor | should we release 1.4 before the manual is completed? |
| 15:55:46 | edx | funny. |
| 15:55:49 | edx | logbot seen edx |
| 15:55:53 | bobTHC | perhaps prisonner of the Rockbox Code Police Department ;) |
| 15:55:55 | edx | hm |
| 15:56:18 | Zagor | edx: it only responds to me in the channel. you can talk to it privately. |
| 15:56:23 | edx | aha. |
| 15:56:29 | edx | thats nice :) |
| 15:56:41 | >>> | "seen" used by edx (~edx@pD9EABC60.dip.t-dialin.net) [snoop prevented] |
| 15:57:03 | >>> | "seen" used by edx (~edx@pD9EABC60.dip.t-dialin.net) [snoop prevented] |
| 15:57:04 | >>> | "seen" used by edx (~edx@pD9EABC60.dip.t-dialin.net) [snoop prevented] |
| 15:57:22 | bobTHC | logbot request for Ops only ? |
| 15:58:04 | Zagor | bobTHC: no, for registered users. |
| 15:58:22 | bobTHC | who are they? |
| 15:58:30 | Zagor | me :-) |
| 15:58:46 | elinenbe | Zagor: has everything been finished for 1.4 that you want done? |
| 15:58:58 | Zagor | elinenbe: i think so, yes |
| 15:59:12 | elinenbe | There are no bugs in the current CVS? |
| 15:59:26 | Zagor | there probably is |
| 15:59:55 | elinenbe | I say finish the manual first. |
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| 16:00:02 | elinenbe | That should be a priority :) |
| 16:00:16 | elinenbe | I think there should be a 1 page "quick manual" |
| 16:02:17 | elinenbe | with all the button combos, etc. |
| 16:03:06 | elinenbe | I can think of one bug... well, a limitation that bugs me :) |
| 16:03:46 | Zagor | elinenbe: there are a *LOT* of key combos... |
| 16:04:06 | Zagor | and they are context sensitive |
| 16:04:09 | elinenbe | I know. And every one should be documneted somewhere. Want me to do it? |
| 16:04:31 | Zagor | i'm working on it right now |
| 16:04:49 | elinenbe | There are 3 main views: WPS, Tree, Menu |
| 16:05:00 | Zagor | look at the manual |
| 16:05:10 | elinenbe | and there are different combinations that can be used.... okay I look at it now. |
| 16:07:31 | elinenbe | want me to mention some of the little idiosyncrasies |
| 16:07:44 | elinenbe | holding on while the archos is plugged in boots to Rockbox. |
| 16:07:51 | elinenbe | stuff like that. |
| 16:08:15 | Zagor | where should we put that? |
| 16:08:42 | elinenbe | I am not sure... maybe a quick reference guide. a "secrets" guide |
| 16:08:46 | elinenbe | something like that |
| 16:09:45 | elinenbe | make sure the list of new features mentions everything −− that should be HUGE! :) |
| 16:10:01 | elinenbe | how do I even find the manul from the web site? |
| 16:10:02 | Zagor | yeah |
| 16:10:38 | elinenbe | there should be a link on the left hand side... I think the manual will have become THAT important |
| 16:10:51 | elinenbe | with more and more features, more and more manual is necessary |
| 16:10:55 | Zagor | yes |
| 16:11:07 | | Quit adiamas (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 16:12:14 | elinenbe | screenshots are dated :) time for new ones? hehe... |
| 16:13:24 | bobTHC | with what u make this so nice screenshots? |
| 16:13:48 | Zagor | gimp |
| 16:13:58 | Zagor | the screenshots are from the simulator |
| 16:14:22 | Bagder2 | the serial modded ones can make screenshots from target |
| 16:14:35 | elinenbe | I think the manual should mention all settings in DEMOS and GAMES too... |
| 16:15:14 | Zagor | Bagder2: yeah, but only linus has one and he is not here... |
| 16:15:20 | Zagor | elinenbe: it will |
| 16:15:31 | Bagder2 | right, and the gimp ones on a simulator will look very similar anyway |
| 16:19:00 | elinenbe | much of the FAQ is outdated too. |
| 16:19:14 | elinenbe | info about fonts/ID3 tags, etc. |
| 16:36:27 | Bagder2 | what's wrong with the id3 info? |
| 16:36:53 | elinenbe | Can't ID# tags be larger than 300 bytes now? |
| 16:36:59 | Zagor | yes |
| 16:37:10 | Zagor | well, no |
| 16:37:13 | Zagor | sort of :-) |
| 16:37:25 | | Nick Bagder2 is now known as Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 16:37:43 | Bagder | we still have the 300-byte problem |
| 16:37:58 | Bagder | but previously we had some other problems as well, that we sometimes thought was the 300-limit |
| 16:38:49 | elinenbe | ..."file 'wps.config' you"... Q39 |
| 16:39:02 | Bagder | oops |
| 16:39:32 | elinenbe | from custom_wps_format |
| 16:39:33 | elinenbe | File Location |
| 16:39:33 | elinenbe | −−−−−−−−−−−−- |
| 16:39:33 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK elinenbe |
| 16:39:33 | elinenbe | The default configuration file must be located in the /.rockbox folder |
| 16:39:33 | elinenbe | of the evice and must be named default.wps (lowercase). Any other Custom |
| 16:39:33 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 16:39:33 | elinenbe | WPS files may be located anywhere on the drive. The only restriction |
| 16:39:34 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 16:39:34 | elinenbe | is that they must end in .wps |
| 16:39:41 | elinenbe | this has been changed. |
| 16:40:03 | elinenbe | and they need to be in ./rockbox NO subdirectories, otherwise they will not be persistent |
| 16:41:07 | Bagder | me fix |
| 16:41:50 | elinenbe | http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/rec-general.html −− out of date. |
| 16:44:12 | Zagor | elinenbe: it's not even linked anywhere |
| 16:44:17 | Zagor | it will go away |
| 16:44:37 | elinenbe | hehe |
| 16:44:51 | elinenbe | http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/dir.html (mention ON+UP/DOWN for page up/down |
| 16:45:03 | Zagor | ah, good |
| 16:45:10 | Zagor | .txt support too |
| 16:45:22 | elinenbe | http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/wps.html |
| 16:45:29 | elinenbe | ON+UP/DOWN pitch control |
| 16:45:56 | elinenbe | but it is looking really nice. |
| 16:46:04 | elinenbe | much more consise and better :) |
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| 16:48:36 | elinenbe | http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/menu.html (sooo out of date!) |
| 16:48:40 | Bagder | dr Linus! |
| 16:48:44 | elinenbe | hello LinusN |
| 16:48:44 | LinusN | yo |
| 16:48:48 | Zagor | yo, linus! |
| 16:48:50 | elinenbe | yo! Yo! YO! |
| 16:48:56 | bobTHC | hi! |
| 16:49:02 | Zagor | Bagder: no bandy today? (forgot about it myself...) |
| 16:49:08 | LinusN | the hardware survey man! |
| 16:49:17 | Bagder | Zagor: only 3 ppl |
| 16:49:20 | Zagor | ok |
| 16:49:35 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 16:49:43 | Bagder | LinusN: you been home today? |
| 16:49:54 | elinenbe | in the manual mention that a quick press of the F1,F2, etc. turns it on, but a long press will turn it off when you let go. |
| 16:50:48 | LinusN | Bagder: at the hospital |
| 16:50:55 | Bagder | ugha |
| 16:51:00 | LinusN | with my wife |
| 16:51:13 | elinenbe | ??? |
| 16:51:23 | LinusN | pregnant |
| 16:51:27 | elinenbe | oh! |
| 16:51:38 | LinusN | 2 weeks left |
| 16:51:41 | elinenbe | congradulations... soon you will have another tyke to read to. |
| 16:51:50 | edx | LinusN: congrats.. :) |
| 16:52:33 | elinenbe | I found quite a big annoyance (not a bad one though) |
| 16:52:48 | elinenbe | the time does not update accordingly with the pitch. |
| 16:52:55 | elinenbe | so, if you have the pitch at 200 |
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| 16:53:04 | elinenbe | the time chould click by 2x as fast |
| 16:53:20 | elinenbe | it looks like all the songs end prematurely |
| 16:53:45 | Zagor | elinenbe: yes, this is known. we won't fix that. |
| 16:54:01 | elinenbe | won't fix before 1.4 or won't fix ever? |
| 16:54:26 | Zagor | ever, unless someone writes an elegant solution. it's a very messy problem. |
| 16:54:32 | elinenbe | ah. |
| 16:57:10 | edx | hmm the latest message to the mailing list: "I don't have any deer, but I would pay 20 Dollars for one. Chris Houghten |
| 16:57:12 | edx | " |
| 16:57:19 | edx | what's "deer" supposed to mean?! |
| 16:58:15 | Zagor | a buck is a male deer |
| 16:58:42 | bobTHC | buck = $ |
| 16:58:49 | Zagor | yeah, but it was a joke |
| 16:58:50 | edx | ah... strange.. didn't even find that expression in the latest longman dictionary |
| 16:58:58 | edx | i know buck, yes ;) |
| 16:59:35 | Zagor | buck: The adult male of some animals, such as the deer, antelope, or rabbit. |
| 16:59:40 | Zagor | www.dictionary.com :-) |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:06 | edx | ah.. now i also understand why he replies to my post :) |
| 17:00:28 | edx | i just new buck for $ nor for the animal hehe |
| 17:00:34 | edx | s/nor/not |
| 17:01:16 | elinenbe | buck in US is like dollar |
| 17:01:25 | edx | yup - that's why i used that term |
| 17:04:01 | Zagor | Bagder: as cvs guru, could you extract a nice long changelog since 1.3? |
| 17:04:14 | Bagder | whoa |
| 17:04:22 | Bagder | that'll be enormous |
| 17:04:28 | elinenbe | similar to greenback, a "one-er", rutabaga, ace, bean, bone, clam, etc... |
| 17:04:32 | elinenbe | you owe me 5 bones |
| 17:04:51 | Zagor | Bagder: yeah, i know... some sort|uniq:ing may cut it down a bit. |
| 17:04:56 | Bagder | Zagor: you want it in the same style as that daily ones? |
| 17:05:21 | Zagor | Bagder: i'd prefer to have just one line per uniq commit comment |
| 17:05:58 | Bagder | that'll give a lot of weird scripting to do ;-/ |
| 17:06:14 | elinenbe | stop kidding, you know it will be fun :) |
| 17:06:18 | Bagder | I'll search the net first |
| 17:06:19 | Zagor | :-) |
| 17:06:35 | edx | elinenbee: cool, i didn't know any of those expressions ;) |
| 17:07:41 | elinenbe | there are more, but those are some common ones. |
| 17:07:46 | elinenbe | I like using beans. |
| 17:07:57 | edx | hehe |
| 17:08:16 | elinenbe | the most common is probably "buck" |
| 17:08:27 | edx | i dont have the faintest idea how to pronounce rutabaga.. :) *looking up* |
| 17:08:45 | bobTHC | it's a rench word |
| 17:08:51 | bobTHC | a french word |
| 17:09:04 | edx | aha |
| 17:09:06 | bobTHC | it's a vegetable |
| 17:09:19 | edx | yup. just saw. |
| 17:09:32 | edx | "Swedish dialectal rotabagge" ;) |
| 17:11:44 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|out (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 17:12:23 | edx | hmmm LinisN: how come the frequency can only be detected for some devices? |
| 17:21:10 | LinusN | edx: i don't have frequency detection for Players, if that's what you mean |
| 17:22:17 | edx | but for all recorders? |
| 17:22:20 | LinusN | edx: and many people didn't read what i wrote, and tool the old daily build instead if the bleeding edge build |
| 17:22:41 | LinusN | the 20021009 build didn't include the freq detection |
| 17:22:43 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 48 minutes and 42 seconds at the last flood |
| 17:22:43 | * | edx read what you wrote and took bleeding edge code ;0 |
| 17:26:28 | * | LinusN has received a lot of hw info mails |
| 17:26:46 | Bagder | :-) |
| 17:31:31 | Bagder | hm |
| 17:31:37 | edx | Bagder: thanks for putting details online ;) |
| 17:31:46 | Bagder | getting all unique commit messages in one long file isn't very useful |
| 17:35:28 | edx | maybe it would be useful to put all messages with the same mask into one file? - depending on what you are after |
| 17:35:55 | Bagder | I think I should sort them on dates or something |
| 17:35:59 | | Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|dinner (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 17:37:10 | LinusN|dinner | The daily build table is all nice and green... :-) |
| 17:37:29 | Bagder | that must mean something ;-) |
| 17:43:44 | bobTHC | something like 1.4 release? |
| 17:43:51 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 17:43:56 | Bagder | it sure smells like it ;-) |
| 17:48:48 | Bagder | cvs -Q log -d "2002-08-27<now" |
| 17:48:52 | Bagder | 18000 lines |
| 17:49:00 | bobTHC | ouch! |
| 17:49:12 | bobTHC | only few change.... ;) |
| 17:49:27 | Bagder | 516 unique cvs commit messages |
| 17:50:22 | edx | that makes roughly 36 new lines per commit ;) |
| 17:50:54 | Bagder | 942 file modfications |
| 17:53:54 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/all |
| 17:54:57 | elinenbe | nice :) |
| 17:55:00 | Bagder | zagor 319 changes |
| 17:55:06 | Bagder | me 219 |
| 17:55:09 | Bagder | linus 154 |
| 17:55:41 | elinenbe | now get rid of all the unimportant ones :) (things a normal person will not care about) |
| 17:55:56 | Bagder | yes |
| 17:56:04 | Bagder | I made this for Bjorn to read |
| 17:57:07 | edx | Bagder: how many changes did I? 2.. or 3? :] |
| 17:57:38 | Bagder | 10 |
| 17:57:40 | edx | oh.. even 10 as far as I can sehh :) |
| 17:57:46 | edx | s/seeh/see |
| 17:57:56 | Bagder | hardeep did 18 |
| 17:58:09 | Bagder | jheiner did 51 |
| 17:58:38 | elinenbe | I think the final distribution should come as a zip file with a .rockbox folder with some fonts, some wps screens, a little text file (maybe the faq) some languages, and some .cfg files. then all the user has to do is unzip it to their rockbox directory. |
| 17:58:44 | elinenbe | that will be great |
| 17:59:03 | elinenbe | hardeep's commits are the best! :) |
| 17:59:03 | Bagder | that's a good idea indeed |
| 17:59:28 | elinenbe | people will not complain about making a .rockbox directory and such. |
| 17:59:41 | elinenbe | then all the user has to do is unzip it to their ARCHOS!!! |
| 17:59:44 | Bagder | 319zagor |
| 17:59:44 | Bagder | 219bagder |
| 17:59:44 | Bagder | 154linusnielsen |
| 17:59:46 | elinenbe | error here. |
| 17:59:47 | Bagder | 55adiamas |
| 17:59:47 | Bagder | 51jheiner |
| 17:59:47 | Bagder | 46elinenbe |
| 17:59:50 | Bagder | 22malle |
| 17:59:50 | Bagder | 18matsl |
| 17:59:52 | Bagder | 18hardeeps |
| 17:59:54 | Bagder | 13thebreaker |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:34 | Bagder | we will probably need an install script |
| 18:00:57 | bobTHC | a batch file for win user |
| 18:01:26 | bobTHC | an old install.bat like old dos games!!!! |
| 18:01:31 | bobTHC | :) |
| 18:01:39 | elinenbe | an install script for win users would make life easy for us.... |
| 18:02:00 | Bagder | gotta go |
| 18:02:03 | | Part Bagder |
| 18:02:03 | bobTHC | yep but how detect the device letter? |
| 18:02:11 | elinenbe | something along the lines of "browse to Archos drive" |
| 18:02:16 | elinenbe | then an install button. |
| 18:02:24 | elinenbe | whoever wants to go for it can! :) |
| 18:02:31 | elinenbe | it would be nice and tight. |
| 18:02:53 | elinenbe | then it installs all that junk to the drive! |
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| 18:10:43 | edx|notebook | got disconnected |
| 18:10:58 | edx|notebook | bobTHC: what about a self-extracting zip archive? |
| 18:11:22 | bobTHC | why not |
| 18:12:00 | bobTHC | for final user the most simpliest is requiered !!! |
| 18:14:20 | bobTHC | why it add "i" to my words...:( sorry |
| 18:19:35 | bobTHC | C U ! |
| 18:19:37 | | Part bobTHC |
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| 18:27:19 | | Nick edx|notebook is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAB7F4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:53:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 18:56:43 | edx | uhm.. i got another english question... talking about glasses, what does "they fruit" mean? |
| 18:57:00 | edx | they get steamy? |
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| 19:12:43 | norm_ | edx: ?? |
| 19:13:07 | norm_ | edx: in what context? |
| 19:19:28 | edx | norm_: some dude talking about his glasses: "Them fruit." - i guess he means "They fruit." but i still dont get it.. |
| 19:19:52 | norm_ | edx: doesn't make any sense |
| 19:20:24 | edx | that's my thought.. are you a native American or English speaker? |
| 19:20:31 | norm_ | Canadian |
| 19:20:42 | norm_ | English is my first langyage |
| 19:20:45 | norm_ | er, language |
| 19:22:07 | edx | hmm |
| 19:22:17 | edx | its a book by William Golding |
| 19:22:22 | edx | "Lord of the Flies" |
| 19:22:34 | norm_ | Ah. I remember that one |
| 19:22:45 | norm_ | I haven't read that in many years |
| 19:23:26 | edx | im reading the first pages atm.. I have to read it for school. |
| 19:25:21 | norm_ | Ah, where he says "Them fruit-" and then wipes his glasses? |
| 19:25:30 | edx | exactly |
| 19:25:44 | edx | and he repeats that later in the text.. |
| 19:26:06 | norm_ | I think he was about to say something about the coconuts |
| 19:26:13 | norm_ | which he believes are fruit |
| 19:26:22 | norm_ | but stops to clean his glasses |
| 19:26:28 | edx | hm |
| 19:26:39 | edx | but theres a point.. |
| 19:26:51 | edx | so it looks like he's finished his sentence. |
| 19:28:02 | edx | plus he mentions it again and does surely not want to talk about coco nuts there. |
| 19:28:59 | edx | .. and quickly adjusted his spectacles on his nose. 'Them fruit.' He glanced round the scar." |
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| 19:34:39 | | Nick Zagor|out is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
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| 19:38:37 | Zagor | what's the opposite of "emphasis". i.e. what does bass -2 dB do? |
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| 19:39:48 | norm_ | Zagor: suppress? |
| 19:40:04 | Zagor | norm_: sounds good, i'll use that |
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| 20:49:23 | Zagor | read the manual and tell me what I've forgotten (except the text viewer) |
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| 20:58:33 | norm_ | Typo in general.html: |
| 20:58:34 | norm_ | * directory as you last was in. |
| 20:58:38 | norm_ | s/was/were/ |
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| 21:12:51 | Zagor | fixed |
| 21:14:26 | norm_ | Hrm, another small nag point: for Loudness and Bass boost, s/emphasises/emphasizes/ |
| 21:16:27 | norm_ | <ul> |
| 21:16:27 | norm_ | <li><a href="/fonts/">Loadable fonts</a> |
| 21:16:27 | norm_ | <li><a href="/lang/">Loadable languages</a> |
| 21:16:27 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK norm_ |
| 21:16:27 | norm_ | <li><a href="/docs/custom_wps_format.html">Loadable WPS template |
| 21:16:27 | norm_ | </ul> |
| 21:16:32 | norm_ | Last item missing a </a> |
| 21:25:00 | elinenbe | Zagor: a whole bunch of the first page is a link |
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| 21:25:15 | elinenbe | Button Notation onwards... |
| 21:27:22 | | Nick LinusN|dinner is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 21:27:30 | elinenbe | how was dinner? |
| 21:27:37 | LinusN | delicious |
| 21:27:43 | elinenbe | did your wife want ice cream and pickles? |
| 21:28:03 | LinusN | yeah, and licorice and orange juice :-) |
| 21:28:17 | elinenbe | pregnant women are sometimes crazy |
| 21:28:39 | | Part wallie |
| 21:29:09 | LinusN | actually, my wife hasn't had that kind of cravings |
| 21:29:37 | elinenbe | http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/general.html |
| 21:29:40 | elinenbe | on that page... |
| 21:29:51 | elinenbe | Disk Spindown - Rockbox has a timer that makes it spin down the harddisk after being idle for a certain time. You can modify this timeout here. A very short timeout makes the interface less responsive and use more batteries for more frequent spinups, while a long timeout makes the disk spin too long and use more batteries... |
| 21:30:06 | elinenbe | that sounds like no matter what you do, you use too much batteries |
| 21:30:20 | LinusN | :-) |
| 21:31:19 | elinenbe | this is still a broken link: http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/textviewer.html |
| 21:32:04 | elinenbe | you might want to mention to try hitting the buttons durin oscillograph |
| 21:32:55 | elinenbe | LinusN: get some new screenshots for the manual... of fun things like pitch changing etc... |
| 21:33:25 | LinusN | i'll do that tomorrow morning |
| 21:33:30 | elinenbe | sounds great. |
| 21:33:34 | LinusN | make a list |
| 21:33:38 | elinenbe | me? |
| 21:33:49 | LinusN | anybody |
| 21:33:54 | elinenbe | Zagor has been busy with the manual all day. |
| 21:33:59 | elinenbe | he might know better. |
| 21:34:05 | LinusN | he never does |
| 21:34:07 | LinusN | :-) |
| 21:34:32 | norm_ | Neet! (I never tried playing with the buttons in oscillograph before) |
| 21:34:50 | elinenbe | manual problem: missing pitch settings from WPS screen |
| 21:35:03 | elinenbe | sorry, it is there. |
| 21:35:16 | elinenbe | but it is not very descriptive. |
| 21:36:22 | elinenbe | I still think there should be a link to the manual on the left hand side of the page. |
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| 22:24:41 | _seb_ | edx: "them fruit." could mean "those things are fruit" |
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| 22:27:53 | LinusN | hehe, just acted "BugBear help Desk" |
| 22:28:06 | LinusN | lots of relatives get it |
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| 22:31:48 | Zagor | elinenbe: link bug fixed, thanks |
| 22:32:53 | radhard | Hi! I've asked my PCB pro. He said, the schematics look like eagle, already. Possible? |
| 22:33:04 | langhaarrocker | very possible |
| 22:33:24 | langhaarrocker | there's a freeware version of eagle |
| 22:33:45 | radhard | Too sad that they are in A3 format, that is not editable with the freeware. |
| 22:34:08 | langhaarrocker | :( |
| 22:34:30 | Zagor | elinenbe: the problem with linking directly to the manual is: nobody will read the faq |
| 22:35:01 | langhaarrocker | what? there is a faq? |
| 22:35:02 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 22:35:29 | elinenbe | well, then put them both in small under documentation |
| 22:35:34 | elinenbe | DOCUMENTATION |
| 22:35:38 | elinenbe | faq |
| 22:35:40 | elinenbe | manual |
| 22:35:54 | Zagor | then we're back to the old 20+ item left-menu |
| 22:35:59 | elinenbe | MAILING LIST |
| 22:36:11 | elinenbe | I just think those are quite important. |
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| 22:40:50 | LinusN | i want CVS too |
| 22:41:28 | LinusN | now the link to the CVS web is buried under documentation/how to use CVS |
| 22:41:39 | langhaarrocker | is sf down? |
| 22:41:53 | langhaarrocker | I can update without probs |
| 22:45:11 | Zagor | i'm open for suggestions about the menu bar. preferrably more than just "i want everything in the menu" |
| 22:46:38 | elinenbe | make it JAVA :) |
| 22:47:01 | elinenbe | make it ActiveX :) |
| 22:47:14 | Zagor | excellent suggestions :-) |
| 22:52:54 | radhard | langhaar: Do you use cvs with cygwin? |
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| 22:53:29 | langhaarrocker | no, I initially checked out with the command line cvs that came with WinCVS. |
| 22:53:47 | langhaarrocker | It doesn't seem to be compatible with the cygwin cvs |
| 22:54:11 | radhard | Well, the checked out files should be the same... ;) |
| 22:54:11 | langhaarrocker | But for a test I checked out once using the cygwin cvs and it worked without problems |
| 22:54:30 | radhard | Is WinCVS easier to use? |
| 22:54:45 | langhaarrocker | not really. It has some nice features though. |
| 22:54:57 | elinenbe | cygwin is the easiest to use. |
| 22:55:46 | radhard | is it? Well I'm one of theese windows users, that like good guis... :) |
| 22:56:15 | radhard | If they only were good.. :( |
| 22:56:22 | langhaarrocker | WinCVS is not a GOOD gui. It's a bit weired. |
| 22:57:27 | radhard | Never seen a versioning tool with a really good gui. Maybe I'll just test both. |
| 22:57:54 | LinusN | Zagor: i think the "developer resources" should be easily accessible, not necessarily from the main menu |
| 22:58:07 | LinusN | specifically the link to the CVS |
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| 23:00:03 | elinenbe | that should be swtiched for the manual |
| 23:00:55 | Zagor | elinenbe: ? |
| 23:01:11 | elinenbe | yeah? |
| 23:01:59 | Zagor | what do you mean? |
| 23:03:58 | elinenbe | I don't know... I am on crack here (programming asp shit) |
| 23:04:05 | elinenbe | I am hating life. |
| 23:04:14 | Zagor | :-) |
| 23:04:49 | langhaarrocker | I am shocked. Daily build is all green. |
| 23:05:10 | Zagor | i must do something about that :-) |
| 23:05:36 | radhard | Maybe you should use .NET, it is easier when on crack since it has a more colorfull UI. ;) |
| 23:07:56 | langhaarrocker | On the wps page in the description of the recorder default wps the %pm is missing. Is that worth sending a patch to the tracker? |
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| 23:09:18 | Zagor | %pm missing? it's right there. |
| 23:09:47 | langhaarrocker | in the very last line? |
| 23:10:04 | Zagor | which exact page are you talking about? |
| 23:10:40 | langhaarrocker | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/custom_wps_format.html, the last section titled 'Default', the default wps is listed. |
| 23:11:04 | Zagor | ah, that. ok |
| 23:11:06 | Zagor | i'll add it |
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| 23:19:58 | xam | bed time .. cu |
| 23:20:06 | Zagor | bye |
| 23:20:08 | langhaarrocker | nice dreams |
| 23:20:18 | xam | thnx ;) |
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| 23:25:12 | elinenbe | Zagor: http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/textviewer.html is nonexistant |
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| 23:32:49 | Zagor | reload the dir page. it's called textreader.html |
| 23:36:52 | elinenbe | ahh −− I got it. |
| 23:39:07 | Zagor | so... looks like release time |
| 23:39:24 | elinenbe | close. |
| 23:39:37 | elinenbe | on hte patchtracker there was a patch about the backlight |
| 23:39:49 | Zagor | fixed |
| 23:39:58 | elinenbe | was that fixed? Backlight always on not loaded on boot? |
| 23:40:04 | Zagor | yes |
| 23:40:12 | elinenbe | wait!! what about recording :) |
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| 23:40:22 | Zagor | 12:24 in recent CVS |
| 23:40:28 | elinenbe | and playlist creation? |
| 23:40:31 | Zagor | ah, right. the recording patch :-) |
| 23:40:41 | Zagor | i think you forgot sending it to me... |
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| 23:41:17 | langhaarrocker | Have you received the key scheme patch? :) |
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| 23:42:44 | elinenbe | there is nothing I can speak of... |
| 23:42:47 | elinenbe | oh - 1 thing. |
| 23:42:59 | elinenbe | I think you could release a self extracting zip |
| 23:43:14 | Zagor | not self-extracting. just a normal zip will do. |
| 23:43:18 | elinenbe | that has archos.ajz (or .mod) with .rockbox dir with some sample files in it. |
| 23:43:23 | elinenbe | well, then that. |
| 23:43:30 | Zagor | yeah, i'll do that |
| 23:43:38 | Zagor | i'll add faq.txt too :-) |
| 23:43:40 | elinenbe | put the faq in as a txt file, and the manual too :) |
| 23:44:13 | langhaarrocker | what about an uninstaller? |
| 23:44:20 | Zagor | lol |
| 23:44:26 | Zagor | we need Install Shield! |
| 23:44:36 | elinenbe | add some of your favorite wps files, |
| 23:44:39 | elinenbe | some fonts |
| 23:44:55 | langhaarrocker | some songs, too? |
| 23:44:59 | elinenbe | some .cfg files (make sure recorder zip has proper ones, and player zip has proper ones) |
| 23:45:06 | Zagor | actually I don't have any fav wps files. do any of you guys? |
| 23:45:06 | elinenbe | no, they take up too much room |
| 23:45:57 | _seb_ | anyone here developing on win32? |
| 23:46:09 | langhaarrocker | using cygwin |
| 23:46:17 | _seb_ | eh, I don't feel like reinstalling it |
| 23:46:46 | _seb_ | haste mal ohne cygwin kompiliert? |
| 23:46:49 | langhaarrocker | can someone help me build uisims with cygwin? |
| 23:47:01 | _seb_ | I'm trying to build with the gnush thing |
| 23:47:18 | elinenbe | I have one, that has both a progress bar and the peak meter |
| 23:47:40 | elinenbe | lang...: good luck. I have had 0 luck with that. I just test on the simulator |
| 23:47:42 | marvincbr | thank you very much for the rockbox firmware/software(?) it makes my studio 20 so much more enjoyable |
| 23:47:50 | Zagor | marvincbr: you're welcome! |
| 23:48:17 | elinenbe | Zagor: can you DCC? |
| 23:48:26 | elinenbe | I will send you wps |
| 23:48:46 | Zagor | sure |
| 23:48:53 | langhaarrocker | LinusN: you're becoming lazy. Where's your frequently asked question? |
| 23:49:42 | Zagor | elinenbe: failed: no route to host |
| 23:49:53 | elinenbe | hold on... firewall here. |
| 23:49:57 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: :-) |
| 23:50:48 | elinenbe | I just email |
| 23:50:54 | Zagor | ok |
| 23:51:02 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: i'm drowning in hardware information :-) |
| 23:51:44 | elinenbe | I use it with small fonts. |
| 23:52:18 | langhaarrocker | LinusN: have you already received hw info on the MultiMedia JB? :) |
| 23:52:49 | LinusN | lol |
| 23:57:38 | Zagor | i'm throwing in the atadore, chicago12, rockbox_default and uwe_prop fonts. any others you think? |
| 23:58:11 | LinusN | throwing in? |
| 23:58:13 | elinenbe | throw in a 9 liner |
| 23:58:23 | elinenbe | either smalltalktightmono |
| 23:58:26 | elinenbe | or 5x7 |
| 23:58:32 | elinenbe | 5x7 is wider and more readable |
| 23:58:43 | Zagor | LinusN: yeah, i'm planning to make a nice .zip this time, with a few things in the .rockbox dir already |
| 23:58:57 | langhaarrocker | I like the 5x8 better but it lacks of umlaute. |
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