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00:03:20 | langhaarrocker | weren't there plans to put a read_line function into file.c? |
00:04:06 | Bagder | yes, there is one I believe for the cfg reading |
00:04:19 | langhaarrocker | but it is static in settings.c |
00:04:26 | Bagder | ah |
00:05:15 | Bagder | seems a bit stupid |
00:05:54 | langhaarrocker | I remember a discussion about read_line, I have about three versions from different patches around here and don't want to write a 4th one. |
00:06:19 | Bagder | just remove the static then, to start with |
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00:07:05 | Phantomdjp | hi ! |
00:07:10 | Phantomdjp | help again : |
00:07:35 | langhaarrocker | Why is Zagor not around when he's needed. I'm pretty sure that he had the 5th variant of read_line... |
00:07:47 | Bagder | I bet he does ;-) |
00:07:57 | Phantomdjp | ***No rule to make target 'lang/.lang', needed by 'build.lang'. Stop. |
00:08:17 | langhaarrocker | Which makefile? |
00:08:22 | Phantomdjp | win32 |
00:08:25 | Bagder | what language did you select? |
00:08:25 | Phantomdjp | apps |
00:08:35 | Phantomdjp | How to select a language ? |
00:08:39 | Bagder | uh |
00:08:44 | Bagder | are you using cygwin? |
00:08:48 | Phantomdjp | no |
00:08:55 | * | Bagder shrugs |
00:09:01 | * | langhaarrocker too |
00:09:03 | Phantomdjp | sh-elf tool chain |
00:09:05 | Bagder | welcome to win32 hell |
00:09:15 | Phantomdjp | as in http://rockbox.haxx.se/sh-win/ |
00:10:25 | Phantomdjp | help me please |
00:10:34 | Bagder | the pure windows make files are in bad shape |
00:10:46 | Bagder | I strongly recommend the cygwin route |
00:11:02 | hardeep | Phantomdjp: try make -f win32.mak LANGUAGE=english |
00:12:12 | hardeep | but I would second Badger's suggestion of using cygwin |
00:12:27 | Phantomdjp | I have cygwin BUT don't know how to use it..I ve compile all |
00:12:55 | Phantomdjp | but don't know how to compile the .ajz |
00:13:11 | langhaarrocker | Has anyone made cygwin make a uisim for windows? |
00:13:22 | hardeep | it's done by the makefile, make sure you've run make in the tools dir before starting build |
00:13:26 | Bagder | langhaarrocker: I don't think so |
00:14:07 | hardeep | langhaarrocker: i've only got it working with VC6 |
00:14:29 | langhaarrocker | Phantomdjp: if you use http://merwin.bespin.org/sh1cygwin it works superb |
00:14:58 | Phantomdjp | ok tell me ALL what I must to do please |
00:15:57 | Phantomdjp | that is a FULL cygwin http://merwin.bespin.org/sh1cygwin ??? |
00:16:02 | hardeep | Phantomdjp: if you're using cygwin just follow the instructions in http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/how_to_compile.html |
00:16:22 | langhaarrocker | 1.) install cygwin |
00:16:23 | langhaarrocker | 2.) install http://merwin.bespin.org/sh1cygwin |
00:16:23 | langhaarrocker | 3.) cvs checkout |
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00:16:23 | langhaarrocker | 4.) mod some paths |
00:16:23 | langhaarrocker | 5.) make build dir |
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00:16:23 | langhaarrocker | 6.) run configure |
00:16:25 | langhaarrocker | 7.) make |
00:16:27 | langhaarrocker | 8.) be happy |
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00:16:43 | * | Phantomdjp shoot him |
00:17:09 | * | langhaarrocker dropped dead |
00:17:18 | Bagder | you only do this once, and then you'll have your rockbox build environment setup nice and clean forever! ;-) |
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00:17:51 | langhaarrocker | besides you want the uisim, too |
00:18:07 | langhaarrocker | Then you need VC6, too |
00:18:12 | Bagder | hehe |
00:18:16 | Phantomdjp | uisim can't be done under windows I think |
00:18:25 | Bagder | someone should make it build with cygwin |
00:18:39 | langhaarrocker | yes. someone. please. |
00:18:45 | Bagder | Phantomdjp: sure it can |
00:21:03 | langhaarrocker | Bagder: you don't get |
00:21:04 | langhaarrocker | |
00:21:04 | langhaarrocker | lcd.c |
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00:21:04 | langhaarrocker | ../../firmware/drivers/lcd.c(89) : error C2143: Syntaxfehler : Fehlendes ')' vor ':' |
00:21:54 | Bagder | no I don't |
00:22:19 | langhaarrocker | It seems my VC6 doesn't like the inline assembler. |
00:22:40 | Bagder | that file is not for the simulator |
00:23:05 | Bagder | I bet the makefile is out of date |
00:24:25 | langhaarrocker | My uisimulator\win32\Makefile.vc6 is clean. |
00:24:56 | Bagder | yes, but not up to date with the changes in the source tree I mean |
00:25:06 | Bagder | like the lcd file split |
00:25:56 | langhaarrocker | but yours is up to date? |
00:26:10 | Bagder | I don't build for nor on windows |
00:26:35 | langhaarrocker | :( again noone to blaim. |
00:27:07 | Bagder | well, fix and post the patch |
00:27:23 | langhaarrocker | no, I have to do other things first. |
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00:31:17 | Bagder | time to hit the bed |
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00:35:59 | Hadaka | anyone have emacs nearby? (xemacs isn't enough) |
00:36:46 | langhaarrocker | I use windows ... :) |
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02:19:57 | radhard | When i pitch down the time keeps running in seconds. Is that intended? |
02:20:47 | radhard | Well i almost think it is known. Have to go to bed. Night! |
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05:49:25 | _seb_ | I decided I'm going to carry around my jukebox for the rest of my life, with my headphones around my neck and the volume all the way up, always playing something, to make a soundtrack for my life. |
05:49:40 | _seb_ | Which reminds me of a feature request: random track from ENTIRE DISK :) |
05:55:31 | PsycoXul | just make a whole disk playlist |
05:55:57 | PsycoXul | 2975 wholedisk.m3u |
05:55:59 | PsycoXul | heh |
05:56:15 | PsycoXul | i should update it |
05:56:29 | PsycoXul | it'll get up over 3000 |
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06:00:17 | _seb_ | that's a good idea |
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11:33:01 | Bagder | hi edx |
11:33:19 | edx|notebook | hi |
11:33:24 | edx|notebook | "edx Nickname is already in use.".. what the..! |
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11:34:53 | edx | thanks to nickserv ;) |
11:35:07 | Bagder | :-) |
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13:52:40 | Mine78 | A questrion |
13:52:48 | Bagder | shoot |
13:52:55 | Mine78 | does the recorder support Variable bitrates or it skip ? |
13:53:05 | Bagder | it supports them fine |
13:53:15 | Mine78 | Even at maximum encoding ? |
13:53:22 | Bagder | yes |
13:53:22 | Mine78 | (VBR High Quality) ? |
13:53:25 | Mine78 | GREAT ! |
13:53:32 | Mine78 | I bought it today from archos website |
13:53:41 | Mine78 | I think it will be a GREAT piece of hardware ! |
13:53:58 | Mine78 | Another thing... the rockbox allow ALL FILE EXTENSIONs to be shown ? |
13:54:07 | Bagder | yes |
13:54:31 | Mine78 | Can I set which extensions I want form a menu ? |
13:54:41 | Mine78 | ex in the cfg file ? |
13:54:58 | Bagder | no |
13:55:06 | Mine78 | I must recompile all ? |
13:55:13 | radhard | It's only VBR, isn't it? It's a grat piece of software. Hardware is a bit lala, but i am very thankfull for the HD-firmware-feature :) |
13:55:16 | Bagder | what do you want more specificly? |
13:55:40 | Mine78 | I would like to be shown only playlist mp3 and txt files |
13:55:55 | Mine78 | lala= ??? |
13:56:21 | edx|notebook | put other files into other directories :P |
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13:56:42 | Bagder | Mine78: atm we have a "dir filter" that shows "music", "all supported" or "all". .txt is "supported" |
13:57:16 | radhard | It's in between. Sound quaity is good, power supply for the harddisk and implementation for the remote is not. But we can deal with that. |
13:57:18 | Mine78 | can u wxplain this better ? You mean that the recorder will see only a folder called musiic ? |
13:57:45 | Bagder | Mine78: can you please read the docs or at least try the software first? |
13:57:53 | Bagder | it works |
13:57:57 | Bagder | and it works pretty good |
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13:58:08 | Mine78 | I know i read all the faqs and now I am reading irc logs... |
13:58:17 | Mine78 | I discover that hardware only 1 week ago |
13:58:34 | radhard | Just give it a try! |
13:58:43 | Mine78 | Where can I find how a .cfg file is structured ? |
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14:00:23 | Bagder | docs/CUSTOM_CFG_FORMAT |
14:01:07 | radhard | Try first. I don't think you'll need all this to get started. |
14:01:34 | Mine78 | One last thing... where can I find some WPS files ? |
14:01:48 | Bagder | download rockbox |
14:01:56 | Mine78 | got them |
14:02:22 | Bagder | so? |
14:02:32 | Bagder | there are at least two WPS files in the release archive |
14:02:45 | Bagder | you mean even more? |
14:04:30 | Mine78 | yes even more ;-) I saw in pics they are grat |
14:04:49 | Mine78 | (sorry I know I am boring and u are extremely polite to answer my silly questions...) |
14:05:07 | Bagder | well, poeple tend to post their own wps files on various forums |
14:05:19 | Bagder | try the yahoo archos group and funmp3players.com |
14:06:01 | Mine78 | Another thing... is there an archos font editor for windows ? |
14:06:15 | Bagder | use anything that can produce bdf fonts |
14:06:28 | Bagder | then convert the bdf into a rockbox font |
14:06:32 | Bagder | using our tool |
14:06:43 | Mine78 | but the tool is for linux... |
14:06:48 | Bagder | no |
14:06:50 | Mine78 | i don't know linux at all |
14:06:56 | Mine78 | thgere is a source code |
14:06:59 | Bagder | yes |
14:07:04 | Bagder | for any platform |
14:07:10 | Mine78 | isn't it for linux ? Ah ok ! |
14:07:19 | Mine78 | Do u know any win32 bdf maker ? |
14:07:36 | Bagder | I don't know any for any platform |
14:07:40 | Bagder | try google |
14:07:56 | Mine78 | :( |
14:08:15 | Bagder | bdf if a standard format |
14:08:20 | Mine78 | ... i really suck at compiling... is there a compiled version of your converter ? |
14:08:21 | Bagder | there are many tools for it |
14:09:17 | Mine78 | I am looking on google but it's all for win or it has to be complied... |
14:09:46 | radhard | mine: When you get your player, please do me a favor and try the original OS first. Then install rockbox, lay back and enjoy! After that you can tweak it if you like. btw: There are lots of ready made fonts. |
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14:10:22 | Mine78 | ok... understood... I will stop making questions... :-P |
14:12:52 | rad[clicking] | It's no problem, but you really should try it and be suprised! |
14:13:34 | rad[clicking] | I've also been a bit nervous, before i got my Archos. I understand that. ;) |
14:13:54 | Bagder | and keep in mind that rockbox is only made because we think its fun |
14:14:33 | Mine78 | eheheheh I think u are great... I would like to help but I don't have any coding ability... |
14:14:46 | Mine78 | Do u think will be possible to show BMP and JPG on the recordser ? |
14:14:48 | Bagder | we need lots more than just code |
14:14:52 | Bagder | sure it is |
14:15:03 | Bagder | we already have bmp viewer code |
14:15:11 | Mine78 | ????????? |
14:15:15 | Mine78 | it works ? |
14:15:21 | Bagder | sure |
14:15:28 | Mine78 | why don'timplement it ? |
14:15:42 | Bagder | because there's more to it than just showing the image |
14:16:03 | Bagder | like we'd need to shrink images |
14:16:13 | Bagder | and dither the colors to black/white etc |
14:16:23 | Mine78 | wow...... and for jpg ? |
14:17:07 | Bagder | we don't have any jpeg viewer, but the problem is not to display it |
14:17:15 | Bagder | it is what to do with the image |
14:17:20 | Bagder | it'll look crap whatever we do |
14:17:38 | Mine78 | do u have a reason why ? |
14:17:51 | Bagder | we have a tiny screen |
14:17:58 | Bagder | we're only black/white |
14:18:24 | Bagder | there's no magic involved here, just plain logic |
14:18:30 | Mine78 | Ah so the image is "decoded" but looks bads |
14:19:05 | Bagder | imagine your favourite picture. Then imagine the same picture using only black pixels and white pixels. |
14:19:21 | Bagder | then make it teeny-weenie small |
14:19:30 | Mine78 | yes I understand... |
14:20:29 | rad[clicking] | mine: Maybe one day you also got the compiler running and write some code for a function you're missing. I can help you installing it on your win-machine, if u like. |
14:23:03 | Mine78 | REALLY ? |
14:23:09 | Mine78 | Please, tell me ! |
14:24:34 | rad[clicking] | Not today, if u don't mind. But if u got the player, tested rockbox and want to play around with the code, i'd be happy to help you. Just ask. Today i'm a bit short of time. |
14:26:10 | Mine78 | OK ! |
14:26:16 | Bagder | we also have docs on the site on how to do it |
14:27:50 | rad[clicking] | Yes, but it's a bit harder than described in the docs. At least on my machine... ;) |
14:27:57 | Bagder | ok |
14:28:12 | Bagder | then the docs should be fixed! ;-) |
14:28:28 | Mine78 | I thank u all u are all really kind people ! |
14:28:48 | Bagder | we just pretend ;-) |
14:29:12 | Mine78 | Question: are fnt used for archos identical to the fnt in dos or is a differet type ? |
14:29:32 | Bagder | dos? |
14:29:34 | rad[clicking] | Maybe. I have everything written down. If i find time to add it, i'll do. But how - editing the wesite? |
14:29:47 | Bagder | rad[clicking]: the site is in the www cvs module |
14:30:10 | Bagder | rad[clicking]: just posting to the mailing list is fine too |
14:30:10 | Mine78 | I cannot find a bdf editor for win except for a cywin version (or something like that) |
14:30:11 | rad[clicking] | ooops... missed that. |
14:30:49 | rad[clicking] | Mine: you should try to get cygwin up and running, You'll also need that for the compiler. |
14:31:06 | Mine78 | I know I tryed to download it but it hangs |
14:31:09 | Mine78 | i will retry |
14:31:33 | rad[clicking] | Well, it's big. |
14:32:00 | Mine78 | I have adsl |
14:32:18 | rad[clicking] | Then retry.... |
14:32:38 | rad[clicking] | Be sure to select all the compiler stuff! |
14:32:56 | Mine78 | yes I did but at 1/3 it hangs |
14:33:37 | rad[clicking] | Never heared of that. Maybe you could ask a friend to d/l it for you? |
14:34:18 | Mine78 | Dunno |
14:34:22 | Mine78 | I will try tomorrow |
14:34:27 | Mine78 | I have an exam thursday |
14:34:29 | Mine78 | I must study |
14:34:43 | rad[clicking] | Or try to select everything, then start d/l. I also have to go clicking now.... |
14:38:11 | Mine78 | I re-thank you all I'm going now ! |
14:38:12 | Mine78 | Byez |
14:38:22 | Mine78 | ah I have a web site |
14:38:26 | Mine78 | http://clik.to/quaglia |
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14:51:45 | * | Bagder added more rubbish :-) |
14:53:40 | * | edx just saw :D |
14:53:45 | edx | is it compiled yet? |
14:53:51 | edx | or do i have to do myself |
14:54:00 | edx | dont want to wait for the next daily build to test it :) |
14:54:10 | Bagder | 6 minutes to bleeding edge build |
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14:54:28 | Bagder | http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/ |
14:54:32 | Bagder | is there now |
14:54:41 | edx | thanks :) |
14:55:18 | edx | damn.. last day of my holidays today. |
14:56:47 | edx | hmm USB just hang?! |
14:57:01 | edx | DOH!!! |
14:57:03 | edx | WTF! |
14:57:08 | edx | it fragged my whole harddrive |
14:57:22 | edx | just some crappy tmp files on there or something |
14:57:30 | edx | STEM~1. |
14:57:35 | edx | and that kind. |
14:57:36 | Bagder | uh, did you accidentally download my virus collection instead? ;-] |
14:58:20 | edx | they wont execute just by downloading :P - the USB mode screwed up - after my system nearly hung for 15 seks or something I pulled the cable |
14:58:24 | edx | hmm |
14:58:34 | edx | no i got to re-transfer all those files again! |
14:58:36 | edx | damn it. |
14:59:14 | edx | is it any use doing something else? |
14:59:38 | Bagder | to achieve what? |
14:59:43 | edx | restore files. |
14:59:56 | Bagder | I don't really know |
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15:00:22 | edx | ok ill just retransfer files.. (my guess is that the file table has been smashed) |
15:00:32 | edx | ah.. maybe scandisk |
15:00:35 | edx | ill give it a shot |
15:03:39 | * | edx wants USB 2 |
15:03:45 | edx | too slow.. |
15:03:46 | Bagder | usb 2 is neat |
15:03:49 | edx | really |
15:04:11 | edx | had a usb firewire combo card for a while.. but it always rebooted my system when i plugged in a firewire device |
15:04:15 | edx | so i sold it. |
15:04:25 | edx | (because with win2k the error did not occur) |
15:04:33 | edx | was a driver issue i guess. |
15:04:44 | Bagder | sounds like it, yes |
15:05:57 | * | edx tests your mod in w32sim while his device is busy |
15:07:18 | Bagder | it runs faster on target than it does in the x11 sim for me |
15:08:23 | edx | really?! maybe because of false simulated delay times... |
15:08:33 | Bagder | yes, might be that |
15:11:53 | edx | bagder, does http://codeforce.dyn.ee/rockbox/autocvs work for you? |
15:12:03 | edx | can't load the page here (humm?) |
15:12:32 | Bagder | nope |
15:12:56 | edx | hm |
15:12:58 | edx | strange |
15:16:21 | edx | Bagder: what does it tell you? couldnt connect? or resolve DNS? |
15:16:35 | Bagder | it connects fine, but there's no content delivered |
15:16:45 | edx | yeez. |
15:16:59 | edx | he - you saw the new patch? the 3d cube? |
15:17:06 | Bagder | noticed |
15:17:23 | edx | maybe its really time to get a math.c with the sin/cos values in an array |
15:17:28 | edx | and approppriate functions |
15:20:05 | rad[clicking] | another thing to approximate? |
15:22:35 | edx | ill try restarting the server - be back in a few mins |
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15:26:39 | Bagder | bbl |
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15:32:17 | edx | ok |
15:32:26 | edx | works now.. hmm what could that have been? |
15:36:52 | edx | Bagder.. my compiler doesnt get the asm part there: |
15:36:58 | edx | asm("and.b %0, @(r0,gbr)" |
15:36:58 | edx | : |
15:37:03 | edx | the ":" |
15:37:05 | edx | in lcd.c |
15:37:08 | edx | line 89 |
15:37:10 | langhaarrocker | bagder is gone |
15:37:14 | edx | oh |
15:37:17 | edx | *doh* |
15:37:19 | edx | just noticed. |
15:37:28 | langhaarrocker | are you trying to build a sim? |
15:37:35 | edx | the win32 sim, yea |
15:37:45 | langhaarrocker | Had the same problem. |
15:37:54 | edx | damn why does it even get there?! |
15:37:59 | edx | *thinking...* |
15:38:03 | langhaarrocker | Somewhen the lcd code was split up in recorder and player specific things |
15:38:16 | langhaarrocker | The makefile hasn't been updated, I think. |
15:38:47 | edx | hm got it/ |
15:38:50 | edx | it seems ) |
15:48:28 | langhaarrocker | Where in the makefiles are preprocessor smbols like HAVE_MAS3587F defined? |
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15:51:29 | rad[clickin] | been thrown out by my provider. It's in /firmware/config-player.h |
15:52:21 | rad[clickin] | or config-recorder.h. whatever you need. |
15:52:42 | langhaarrocker | seems I have to include config.h |
15:53:24 | rad[clickin] | looks like. yes. |
15:53:53 | * | langhaarrocker is trying |
15:54:54 | langhaarrocker | yes, that was it. Thank you |
15:55:27 | rad[clickin] | np. Try to get my agent talking. He wont. That son of... |
15:56:13 | langhaarrocker | what agent? |
15:56:47 | rad[clickin] | MS-agent. He should read the irc-messages, but he only clicks and displays them. |
15:57:41 | langhaarrocker | I ended up using trillian. |
15:58:36 | rad[clickin] | I have to code a UI for a customer and don't want to miss IRC-messages. So i use the agent settings in mirc. How does trillian manage that? btw what is trillian? |
15:59:13 | langhaarrocker | a client for aim, icq, irc, ... |
15:59:30 | rad[clickin] | commercial? |
15:59:35 | langhaarrocker | freeware |
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16:00:16 | rad[clickin] | .cc. I'll have a look... |
16:00:22 | langhaarrocker | http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/ |
16:01:01 | rad[clickin] | Thought it's trillian.cc. Good software? |
16:01:40 | langhaarrocker | I like it. It works, but I didn't try many other things. Had aim, icq and then trilian. |
16:02:33 | rad[clickin] | Don't like the AOL stuff. Too sad that thay bought mirabilis. |
16:03:20 | langhaarrocker | And trillian has more smily simbols that aim... |
16:03:35 | rad[clickin] | I'll give it a try and hope there is no backdoor built in... ;) I just remember an email commercial about trillian. But i tend to throw them away immediately. |
16:04:58 | rad[clickin] | I hope there's no "buddy-list". I dislike that word, because it sounds very odd in german. |
16:05:31 | langhaarrocker | it has buddy lists - at least for aim and icq |
16:06:01 | langhaarrocker | (doesn't sound strange to me) |
16:06:03 | rad[clickin] | Maybe i can use soft-ice to change the name. |
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16:07:58 | langhaarrocker | edx: could you cure the win32 simulator? |
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16:08:56 | * | Bagder runs the cube in the sim |
16:09:18 | langhaarrocker | but not on windows I guess |
16:09:24 | Bagder | no |
16:09:30 | Bagder | it looked rather.... strange |
16:09:41 | langhaarrocker | the cube? |
16:09:50 | langhaarrocker | (a good movie btw) |
16:09:52 | Bagder | yes, it runs so bloody fast in the sim ;-) |
16:10:29 | langhaarrocker | have you tried it on the recorder, yet? |
16:10:51 | edx | Bagder: maybe it's the compile which corrects the floating point issue? |
16:11:08 | Bagder | yes, it gotta be something like that |
16:11:13 | Bagder | I run it now on the recorder |
16:11:16 | Bagder | looks neat |
16:11:21 | edx | hehe |
16:12:01 | langhaarrocker | probably the sh1 delegates all the fp stuff to micronas :) |
16:16:54 | Bagder | I slowed down button_get() in the sim |
16:17:00 | Bagder | then it looks a lot nicer |
16:21:11 | edx | im trying to fix win32sim right now.. it needs to compile the lang file as well.. argh |
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16:21:27 | Bagder | well it needs a lang.h |
16:21:40 | edx | yeah.. |
16:28:32 | Bagder | you think I should add the cube? |
16:32:16 | edx | generally, yes - but i couldnt have a look at it so far.. unfortunately |
16:32:29 | edx | i mean it's just like bounce - a fun toy ;) |
16:44:09 | edx | Bagder: what could that be: ../../apps\demo_menu.c(46) : error C2065: 'LANG_BOUNCE' : undeclared identifier |
16:44:32 | Bagder | that you for some reason don't have that in your lang.h |
16:45:06 | edx | but i _do_ have lang.h |
16:45:14 | edx | hmm what directory is it supposed to be in? |
16:45:37 | Bagder | in your build directory |
16:45:51 | edx | i put it to uisim/win32/ |
16:45:52 | Bagder | that's how the unix build does it |
16:47:28 | edx | ah the generated lang file empty. |
16:47:46 | Bagder | oh |
16:48:05 | edx | perl -s genlang -p=../uisimulator/win32/lang $(LANGUAGE) |
16:48:14 | edx | LANGUAGE = english |
16:48:22 | edx | is that ok? |
16:48:51 | Bagder | no |
16:49:00 | edx | good. then what's wrong |
16:49:11 | Bagder | it's supposed to be the language file, not the language name |
16:49:17 | edx | oohhh... |
16:49:55 | edx | ../apps/lang/$(LANGUAGE).lang |
16:49:57 | edx | that would be? |
16:50:24 | Bagder | if you check the other sim Makefiles, you see that we 'uplang' first on the selected language |
16:50:32 | Bagder | and then we genlang on that generated file |
16:50:37 | edx | ahh |
16:50:49 | Bagder | but you don't actually need to do that if you don't want to |
16:51:06 | Bagder | that way, we can build any-language files fine, always having all strings included |
16:51:18 | Bagder | using english ones for the untranslated |
16:52:56 | edx | what do those do? $< > $@ |
16:53:15 | Bagder | $< is the file to the right of the : on the line above |
16:53:21 | Bagder | $@ is the file to the left of the : |
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16:54:37 | Bagder | you'll become a makefile guru any day now ;-) |
16:57:08 | edx | haha... it works. |
16:57:21 | Bagder | you rule |
16:57:26 | edx | yes indeed.. especially things concerining differens between microsoft nmake and linux makes ;) |
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16:57:47 | edx | ok.. one thing left |
16:57:50 | edx | NMAKE : fatal error U1073: don't know how to make '../../firmware/chartables.obj |
16:57:54 | edx | does that still exist? |
16:57:57 | edx | no, does it? |
16:57:59 | Bagder | no |
16:58:27 | * | edx hopes.. |
16:59:57 | edx | yay!! |
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17:00:33 | * | edx wonders where the executable has gone |
17:00:46 | Bagder | haha |
17:05:01 | Bagder | time to do the dishes |
17:11:57 | edx | heh... chkdsk repairing my jukebox: |
17:11:58 | edx | 11377648 KB in 2852 recovered files. |
17:15:28 | Bagder | gosh |
17:17:18 | edx | bagder: |
17:17:19 | edx | _font_get |
17:17:22 | edx | where's that from? |
17:17:32 | edx | *the only thing that's missing now :)* |
17:17:38 | Bagder | firmware/font.c |
17:17:49 | edx | thanks |
17:19:26 | edx | font.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _sysfont <−− where's that from? |
17:19:39 | Bagder | ah |
17:19:59 | Bagder | $(TOOLSDIR)/convbdf -c -o $(OBJDIR)/sysfont.c $< |
17:20:07 | Bagder | $(CC) $(APPCFLAGS) -c $(OBJDIR)/sysfont.c -o $@ |
17:20:18 | edx | ohoho... |
17:20:27 | edx | ok |
17:20:29 | Bagder | iow, convbdf generates that c file |
17:21:43 | edx | what is $< in that case? |
17:22:02 | Bagder | $(FIRMWAREDIR)/fonts/clR6x8.bdf |
17:23:03 | edx | always? |
17:23:09 | edx | you can specify, right? |
17:23:23 | Bagder | that's the built-in font |
17:23:27 | edx | k |
17:23:33 | edx | ill have a variable for it |
17:24:10 | edx | there's a chance it might work now.. |
17:24:19 | * | Bagder holds his breath |
17:24:59 | * | edx too |
17:25:23 | edx | argh |
17:25:24 | edx | whats that |
17:26:16 | edx | it wont execute the exe because its in the tools dir and it needs to change dir (?!) very strange |
17:26:53 | edx | got it |
17:27:10 | * | edx holds his breath again |
17:28:14 | edx | grmbl.. still a few undefined symbols.. just a matter of time i guess.. |
17:28:44 | Bagder | what symbols this time? |
17:29:57 | edx | wait.. lcd_roll |
17:30:22 | Bagder | firmware/drivers/lcd-recorder.c |
17:31:34 | edx | ah right.. you splitted the lcd code |
17:31:41 | Bagder | yep |
17:31:43 | edx | lcd_player is the other one? |
17:32:38 | Bagder | lcd-player.c yes |
17:32:45 | edx | yea.. mistyped |
17:32:45 | edx | ok |
17:33:33 | edx | oh.. and that one: |
17:33:33 | edx | _mas_codec_readreg |
17:34:44 | Bagder | you need that? |
17:34:49 | Bagder | that must be wrong |
17:34:59 | edx | i guess not - i link oscillograph with it - thats propably wrong |
17:35:12 | edx | whats an expression exclude a filename from a variable in a makefile? |
17:35:58 | edx | hmm nm |
17:36:23 | edx | thats a bit stupid.. it worked before by passig *.* to the compiler and now i need to exclude the oszillosgraph thing |
17:36:29 | edx | *oscillograph.c |
17:37:03 | Bagder | you could perhaps make that use a #ifndef SIMULATOR |
17:37:27 | edx | hmm am I allowed to? ;) |
17:38:08 | Bagder | I think so, if the alternative is much more work for you |
17:38:17 | edx | it certainly is. |
17:38:27 | edx | also, if other files are added my makefiles out-date very fast |
17:38:38 | Bagder | of course |
17:38:53 | Bagder | we edit the makefiles very often |
17:39:06 | Bagder | the problem is that you're the only one editing these makefiles |
17:39:17 | edx | yup.. |
17:39:44 | edx | i dont find time to get into that very often because it always takes at least 30 mins ;) |
17:40:37 | Bagder | well, its there so people can fix it themselves if they must have it fixed |
17:42:07 | edx | Bagder: are the simuator definitions in the lcd-recorder code now?! |
17:42:45 | Bagder | pretty much as before |
17:42:55 | edx | lcd-recorder.obj : error LNK2005: _lcd_init already defined in lcd-playersim.obj <−−- what is lcd-playersim |
17:43:38 | Bagder | lcd-playersim.c |
17:43:45 | edx | argh.. |
17:43:46 | edx | ok |
17:43:46 | Bagder | in uisim/common/ |
17:43:49 | edx | same problem as before |
17:43:54 | Bagder | its for building a player simulator |
17:43:55 | edx | i just compile everything in there. |
17:44:03 | Bagder | you're too lazy ;-) |
17:44:10 | edx | that's why im a programmer |
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17:49:24 | edx | unresolved external symbol _sleep .. now where's that again.. |
17:50:05 | edx | and why doesn't the windows full-text search work. |
17:52:56 | * | edx feels like he's missing a big part of code - hum |
17:54:09 | edx | oh.. got it - i was dealing with .o files while they're .obj in windows |
17:55:38 | edx | and there.. finally ... uisw32.exe!! |
17:55:42 | * | edx jumps.. |
17:55:47 | Bagder | but does it work too? ;-) |
17:57:09 | edx | bah... i dont believe this |
17:57:19 | edx | i should go to a doctor |
17:57:28 | edx | the exe file is not there any more!! |
17:57:33 | * | edx is getting crazy |
17:57:45 | edx | what's the file sleep is defined in? |
17:57:49 | edx | kernel.c |
17:58:03 | Bagder | you should provide your own sleep |
17:58:43 | edx | hm i actually do.. now why isn't that linked |
17:58:45 | Bagder | the x11 sim has a: |
17:58:48 | Bagder | #define sleep(x) x11_sleep(x) |
17:59:54 | edx | yes i defined it.. thats an old function |
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18:00:01 | edx | would never have worked without ;) |
18:00:21 | edx | %.obj: %.c - does that apply to "*.obj" as well?! - it seems like it doesn't |
18:01:32 | Bagder | I don't know |
18:01:59 | edx | ok it doesnt because it wont find *.c |
18:02:05 | Bagder | does nmake even know that kind of stuff? |
18:02:12 | edx | yes it does |
18:02:13 | edx | luckily |
18:03:37 | Bagder | bbl |
18:03:38 | edx | aha.. now it works.. - it was indeed that mistake. |
18:03:47 | Bagder | neato |
18:03:49 | Bagder | see ya |
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18:32:10 | edx | where is the browse_root function? |
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19:07:46 | hardeep | edx: tree.c |
19:22:04 | adi|home | dude..that cube.c is cool.. |
19:22:11 | adi|home | the key events needs work.. but thats cool :) |
19:27:30 | edx | yea thats cool |
19:34:04 | edx | i dont understand this: the simulator includes a file lcd-playersim.c for the player .. BUT: #ifndef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP (for the whole file)??! |
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19:59:00 | Bagder2 | rehi |
19:59:32 | Bagder2 | edx: how's the sim going? |
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20:23:20 | edx | Bagder! You're back |
20:23:23 | edx | baad. |
20:23:25 | edx | all bad. |
20:23:27 | Bagder2 | back I am |
20:23:32 | edx | well the recorder sim works ok |
20:23:34 | edx | but the player |
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20:23:40 | edx | seems like you messed something up: |
20:23:45 | edx | lcd-playersim.c: |
20:23:54 | edx | #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP |
20:23:54 | edx | ??!! |
20:23:59 | edx | for the whole file |
20:24:03 | edx | thant cant be correct |
20:24:26 | Bagder | works for me |
20:24:41 | Bagder | the player sim makefile sets that define |
20:24:50 | edx | ahh |
20:24:58 | Bagder | I'm not sure why we need an #ifdef there at all though |
20:25:06 | Bagder | this is Mats Lidell work |
20:25:12 | edx | i was already wondering why your makefile does not set ARCHOS_PLAYER or something alike |
20:25:24 | Bagder | now you know |
20:25:41 | Bagder | the simulator is not a true unit of any kind, that's why it doesn't set them |
20:26:18 | edx | hmm right now (if i leave that define away) it works for the player.. but somehow it runs very slow (some delay must be somewhere in my code which does not apply for the recorder) and the screen size is too large |
20:29:08 | edx | but: at least the recorder works perfectly |
20:29:15 | edx | i looked at the cube thingie as well - nice work |
20:29:36 | Bagder | yeps |
20:29:46 | edx | your rockbox bouncer, too ;) |
20:30:19 | Bagder | I thought about using that as text viewer ;-) |
20:30:33 | edx | hahah! |
20:30:45 | edx | the guy who read a book like this first gets a free t-shirt! |
20:31:03 | Bagder | and a free brain damage! :-P |
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20:57:30 | edx | bagder, whats the best allocation unit size for formatting a harddisk for rockbox? |
20:57:50 | Bagder | uuuuh |
20:57:52 | Bagder | I don't know |
20:58:47 | Bagder | I'm off |
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22:05:56 | calpefrosch | hi |
22:05:59 | calpefrosch | hi edx |
22:06:47 | rad[clickin] | hi frosch! |
22:08:59 | rad[clickin] | news: No resistor in my recorder. Short circuit while plugging and unplugging. Sending is possible, the processor has only 2mA drive, but up to 10mA sink. Got PC-Remote working (unidirectional for now, but HW is bidir). |
22:09:18 | calpefrosch | hi ! |
22:09:47 | calpefrosch | super cool. I like to hear this good news.. |
22:10:10 | calpefrosch | so you sent from the µ-C ? |
22:10:44 | rad[clickin] | I've made a hw patch to test both, with resistor and without. Used the digital i/o port for that, since i don't use it. You mean from the Archos processor? |
22:10:52 | calpefrosch | what do you mean with "no resistor" ? Is your archos different from mine ? |
22:10:58 | rad[clickin] | yep |
22:11:12 | rad[clickin] | I've got a floating line. |
22:11:18 | calpefrosch | do you think it will work for me without hw-mod ? |
22:11:26 | rad[clickin] | And you've got a problem ;) |
22:11:56 | calpefrosch | you sent some commands to the archos, from where do you sent ? |
22:12:44 | rad[clickin] | The problem is: with normal headphones your Archos will draw 3mA more than it should. The communication hardware will work. |
22:12:55 | rad[clickin] | I send from PC. |
22:13:25 | calpefrosch | so they waste battery power ? |
22:14:05 | rad[clickin] | If you look at the source, you see that the original remote seems to send out multiple characters. Instead of a checksum. Yes, the resistor wasts battery. |
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22:15:37 | calpefrosch | okey, I think I'm a little bit behind. I don't know the original remote. What do you send to "Play" ? |
22:16:13 | radhard | Since i didn't want to write a PC software for testing, i've changed the Archos source. I just press a,b,c,d,e for the functions ;) |
22:16:17 | radhard | Lazy as i am. |
22:17:04 | radhard | But it should work for you, if you send the characters (0xc1 and such) twice. |
22:19:55 | radhard | I might take a look at the source and tell you, if you need to know the characters. And you have to send them fast (byte at byte) since there is a timeout, i think. We also have another problem: We MUST not send push pull, so we can't use the integrated functionality of the SH. |
22:23:27 | radhard | frosch: sudden death? |
22:24:17 | calpefrosch | sorry, I was away for a wile. |
22:25:25 | calpefrosch | you mean we have to modify the hw ? |
22:26:08 | radhard | I've had a look at the original remote PCB. The definitively use too many parts ;). No, we don't have to modify, just i had to, so that i can test every configuration. |
22:26:34 | radhard | But there are many things we can't do. |
22:27:39 | calpefrosch | hmm, that sounds not so good. |
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22:28:48 | calpefrosch | I have another Projekt in parallel and don't have so much time. But I'll try it this week to send the command twice |
22:29:12 | radhard | We can't do simple "set port to output and clock out data" transmission, since a suddenly disconnected remote could result in a short circuit between comm and ground. That'll destroy the processsor. |
22:30:16 | radhard | Neither I have, but i think i can manage it to write a test program for windows. At least for simulating the original remote, send predefined streams and show received characters. |
22:33:41 | radhard | Do you develop on Win or Linux? |
22:38:30 | calpefrosch | Win |
22:38:42 | calpefrosch | but also Linux |
22:39:03 | radhard | Sp maybe you can the program. I'll tell you when it's ready. |
22:39:22 | radhard | So... can use.... |
22:40:26 | radhard | Ok, I think that it for now. I'll write the new stuff in the news next week. |
22:40:35 | calpefrosch | yes, that would be nice. I have to go now, but I will be in the office tommorow. |
22:41:01 | radhard | I'm off too. Just waited for your apperance... ;) |
22:41:47 | radhard | Bye! |
22:41:56 | radhard | @all |
22:42:32 | calpefrosch | bye |
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23:31:53 | | Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (user@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |