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| 00:02:34 | Aghnar | xam:re :) |
| 00:03:29 | Aghnar | and sorry for the last time, i had connections problems :/ |
| 00:05:43 | Aghnar | anybody knows why there are so few games ? |
| 00:06:19 | Aghnar | i mean, because you can dev in C easily with GCC, many games should have risen ! |
| 00:07:26 | Aghnar | I plan to make a little game in C, and i was wondering if grayscale (simulated with 2 planes of b&w) was possible on the archos :) |
| 00:08:52 | xam | I don't know, sorry ... |
| 00:09:56 | Aghnar | one other thing, there is missing an executable format for application such as games |
| 00:10:49 | PsycoXul | hmm? |
| 00:11:00 | Aghnar | because for the moment all demos and games are part of the firmware, it should be really better if there were a launcher for external program :) |
| 00:11:09 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:11:26 | PsycoXul | well you can make it it's own firmware and load it through the browser via ROLO |
| 00:12:32 | Aghnar | yes but if i make a firmware which consists in only a game it will not be interesting for the user |
| 00:12:56 | PsycoXul | well yeah, you'd have to interrupt your mp3 playing and all that for it |
| 00:12:56 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:13:27 | Aghnar | yes it is quite difficult to do :/ |
| 00:13:55 | PsycoXul | but some people are talking about loadable modules lately |
| 00:14:03 | Aghnar | :) |
| 00:14:14 | PsycoXul | and possibly dynamic mp3 buffer |
| 00:14:21 | Aghnar | and multi - threading :) |
| 00:14:24 | Aghnar | :D |
| 00:14:24 | PsycoXul | which'll would make that easier and allow for some other things |
| 00:14:37 | PsycoXul | well i think we've got all the threading we really need |
| 00:16:52 | Aghnar | one other question : is the .lang / .font files must be in the .rockbox directories or can be loaded from everywhere ? |
| 00:17:04 | Aghnar | i mean rockbox will not be messed ? |
| 00:17:20 | PsycoXul | they can be loaded from anywhere, but they'll only be persistent if they're in /.rockbox |
| 00:17:41 | Aghnar | thx |
| 00:19:11 | Aghnar | anyone has calculated the pratical debit of the archos in download via USB2 ? |
| 00:19:39 | Aghnar | i know it is VERY fast, but i want to know exactly ;) |
| 00:30:09 | xam | Aghnar they say "up to 12MB/s" ... at least it's written on the box |
| 00:30:26 | Aghnar | that's not what i mean |
| 00:30:46 | Aghnar | USB 1.1 THEORIC debit IS 12Mb/s |
| 00:31:01 | Aghnar | USB 2.0 THEORIC debit IS 480Mb/s |
| 00:31:17 | xam | Aghnar nope, they were saying 12MBytes per Second with USB 2.0 |
| 00:31:23 | xam | Aghnar IIRC |
| 00:31:31 | Aghnar | okay :) |
| 00:31:36 | xam | Aghnar 480 is the theoretical maximun |
| 00:31:36 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 00:31:40 | Aghnar | IIRC = ? |
| 00:31:46 | xam | 480MBit/s |
| 00:31:48 | PsycoXul | 1.1 is 12mbit, and 2 is 480mbit |
| 00:31:55 | xam | If I remember correctly |
| 00:31:56 | Aghnar | yes i know |
| 00:32:11 | PsycoXul | i think i get close to 12mbit on 1.1 |
| 00:32:15 | Aghnar | but the theori is not interesting |
| 00:32:37 | xam | Aghnar I know I wasn't USB1.1 and MBit, but MBytes |
| 00:33:46 | xam | Aghnar I remember that it was strange, because it was also the number "12" |
| 00:33:53 | Aghnar | okay, 12Mo/sec => equal with my LAN 100Mb card #miam# :) |
| 00:34:22 | PsycoXul | i would guess that under reasonable conditions, you could get close to 60MBytes/s on usb2 |
| 00:34:46 | radhard | Want to see a nice cube addon? |
| 00:34:48 | xam | Agnhar I don't think so. I get 4, maximum 5 MBytes/s transfer rate with 100MBit LAN |
| 00:35:33 | Aghnar | xam => sorry i'm always >10mo with mine :D |
| 00:35:42 | Aghnar | maybe you have a poor DD |
| 00:35:43 | xam | Aghnar and the 100MBit is full-duplex |
| 00:36:01 | Aghnar | yes but if your hard drive can't follow... |
| 00:36:29 | Aghnar | radhard > a 3D cube Demo ? |
| 00:36:33 | xam | Agnar nope, it's just a crosslink cable. And even with my 100Mbit switch. Well, I transfer from linux->windows ... |
| 00:36:46 | radhard | Yepp, just look into your email :-) |
| 00:37:21 | Aghnar | it is a firmware, bootable with rolo ? |
| 00:38:44 | radhard | I did some modification to Damien Teney's great cube code, he just inspired me...! No, it's patch, but i can send you a german .ajz, if you like. |
| 00:39:12 | Aghnar | yes i prefer :) |
| 00:39:39 | Aghnar | the user always prefer ready-to-go program :) |
| 00:43:05 | radhard | You should receive it any moment. |
| 00:43:35 | Aghnar | don't you have a website for releasing your latest demoS ? |
| 00:44:30 | Aghnar | i have one, it is really much more better than diffusing by mail your betas/programs |
| 00:46:25 | radhard | No, sorry. Also it is not mine, it is just a modification to Damien Teney's amazing cube-code, which he also distributed as patch/email. But nevertheless, that's a good idea. I'll think about it! |
| 00:47:00 | radhard | Does it work and what do you think? |
| 00:47:11 | Aghnar | i'm installing it... |
| 00:47:48 | radhard | Yes, the user prefers ready-to-go but this is intended for the developer audience for the moment :-) |
| 00:48:14 | Aghnar | great :) |
| 00:48:31 | Aghnar | but there is some perpective error |
| 00:48:36 | Aghnar | it seems to be |
| 00:49:09 | radhard | Sometimes you have to adjust your eyes ;) |
| 00:49:24 | Aghnar | lol |
| 00:49:37 | Aghnar | good idea, you can control the cube's rotation |
| 00:49:43 | Aghnar | no zoom ? |
| 00:50:23 | radhard | If you got the wrong starting point, it looks like the rear part is at the front. Well, that comes with ne next version ;) didn't want to implement everything at once... |
| 00:51:14 | Aghnar | erf, i have a beta version of rockbox |
| 00:51:31 | radhard | Speed mode with all settings 1 but one setting 10 is awesome :) |
| 00:51:42 | radhard | erf? |
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| 00:51:54 | Aghnar | give me the patch so i can put it on the 1.4 version :) |
| 00:51:59 | Aghnar | please |
| 00:52:12 | radhard | You're on the mailing list? Then you already have it. |
| 00:52:29 | Aghnar | no i'm not |
| 00:52:37 | radhard | ok. one moment. |
| 00:52:40 | Aghnar | it is worth to be on it ? |
| 00:54:41 | radhard | If you are interested in the detailed technical discussion, yes it is. You should have a look at the old mail-archives. |
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| 00:55:08 | Aghnar | okay |
| 00:55:32 | Aghnar | but i think that it is quoite strange that there are so few games |
| 00:55:54 | Aghnar | because rockbox is quite old |
| 00:55:59 | Aghnar | one year almost |
| 00:56:46 | radhard | With a little luck I'll find my old hidden line algo. That'd be nice. Oh, feel free to write a game! There has been a snake version, but they threw it out, because noone put further effort in the code. |
| 00:58:10 | Aghnar | an it seems really easy to code, there is already a gfx lib ! |
| 00:59:06 | Aghnar | the line algorithme of the lcd.h is fast ? |
| 00:59:17 | Aghnar | i mean ASM written, at least ? |
| 00:59:25 | radhard | It's always a lot of time to develop a full working software part, like a game. |
| 00:59:53 | radhard | Didn't look at it. I don't think it's in ASM. |
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| 01:00:19 | Aghnar | erf i didn't spend so much time on much more complicated games than you can make on the archos ! |
| 01:00:30 | Aghnar | see there aghnar666.free.fr |
| 01:02:23 | radhard | Nice! Well, I'm not that interested in games on the Archos. At least I want to use it as an mp3-player ;) |
| 01:02:40 | Aghnar | i have also started to work on GP32, don't know if you see wha it is :) |
| 01:03:13 | radhard | But if you want to write one, why not? I always appreciate new stuff to play with, as most of the others do! |
| 01:03:45 | radhard | Sorry, never heared of GP32. |
| 01:04:31 | Aghnar | it can also play MP3 ^_^ |
| 01:05:36 | Aghnar | http://www.gp32emu.com/ |
| 01:06:26 | Aghnar | http://216.167.73.47/~gp32emu/aboutgp32.htm |
| 01:06:40 | radhard | Is this thingy available? |
| 01:06:53 | Aghnar | yes for sure :) |
| 01:07:24 | Aghnar | it has nearly one year |
| 01:07:48 | radhard | ARM cores rock, we use them in automotive modules. |
| 01:08:13 | Aghnar | yeah and it is overclockable at 133Mhz... |
| 01:08:19 | Aghnar | ... in software ! |
| 01:09:02 | radhard | Wow. Not bad. Is there a backlight option? |
| 01:09:25 | Aghnar | no but the screen is really good, no GBA problem :) |
| 01:09:45 | Aghnar | it can also play DivX ;) |
| 01:10:15 | radhard | I've got a GBA here, the display is really worse. Hmm, what size of divx will fit on a SMC card? |
| 01:10:24 | Aghnar | and tons of emus have been ported (from the master system to the super NES !) |
| 01:11:08 | Aghnar | on a 128Mo SMC, you can fit one film of 100 min (don't renmeber exactly) |
| 01:11:37 | Aghnar | you are german isnt'it ? |
| 01:11:50 | radhard | It has just one major (and thus disqualifying) restriction: No Harddisk! Did you try it? Yes, i am. Lingo? |
| 01:12:09 | radhard | Or just queried me? ;) |
| 01:12:22 | Aghnar | No Harddisk! -> yes it is a console at the base :D |
| 01:12:34 | Aghnar | Lingo? -> don't understand |
| 01:12:59 | radhard | Did you figure this out through my accent or did you just query me? |
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| 01:13:22 | Aghnar | it is simple in fact |
| 01:13:39 | _seb_ | hi everybody |
| 01:13:44 | Aghnar | "No, it's patch, but i can send you a german .ajz, if you like." |
| 01:13:59 | Aghnar | hi seb |
| 01:14:11 | radhard | Hehe, ok, that's easy. |
| 01:14:16 | _seb_ | Aghnar, are you in Alsace? |
| 01:14:26 | Aghnar | yes in NAacy |
| 01:14:30 | Aghnar | NAncy |
| 01:14:31 | _seb_ | cool :) |
| 01:14:35 | Aghnar | near Metz |
| 01:14:38 | Aghnar | French ? |
| 01:14:39 | radhard | France? |
| 01:14:51 | _seb_ | no, American, but I've been to Alsace a couple times |
| 01:14:56 | _seb_ | I was in Riquewihr twice |
| 01:15:04 | _seb_ | radhard, where in Germany are you? |
| 01:15:25 | radhard | Near cologne. A small town you don't know, i think. |
| 01:15:35 | _seb_ | probably not |
| 01:16:31 | radhard | About 50km east from cologne. Where is Riquewihr? |
| 01:16:44 | _seb_ | It's in Elsass |
| 01:16:52 | Aghnar | radhard -> i asked because with your nick you could have been french ;) |
| 01:17:35 | radhard | So what is it's meaning in french? |
| 01:18:16 | radhard | You are the first who wondered about my nick ;) |
| 01:18:38 | Aghnar | radhard ~ radar (same in english :D) |
| 01:19:55 | Aghnar | you don't speak french ? |
| 01:20:11 | radhard | Ah, ok. In fact it means "radiation hardened". That is a process to make integrated circuits more reliable. Mostly used in military appliances, as you might have guessed. No i don't, sorry. |
| 01:20:20 | _seb_ | Aghnar: do you speak German? |
| 01:20:56 | Aghnar | yah ich kanne, aber es ist sehr katastophic ! |
| 01:21:12 | _seb_ | hehe |
| 01:21:25 | Aghnar | only 5years at highschool 4 years ago |
| 01:21:28 | radhard | Ok, let's speak english here.. ;) Never mind..... |
| 01:21:36 | _seb_ | no, let's speak german and french :) |
| 01:22:10 | radhard | I don't know what my english was like after 4 years, but I think it's been really worse...! |
| 01:22:38 | radhard | Hehe, Spassvogel! I won't understand a single word... |
| 01:23:05 | Aghnar | how old are you ? |
| 01:23:14 | _seb_ | jo mach dir keine sorgen, englisch kannst du echt gut :) |
| 01:23:37 | radhard | Thanks! Aghnar_ You want to mate me? ;) |
| 01:23:45 | Aghnar | lol |
| 01:23:46 | _seb_ | Heh. |
| 01:23:54 | Aghnar | just wondering |
| 01:24:17 | radhard | np. I'm 29, no family and a good job. What about you? |
| 01:24:28 | Aghnar | 22, student |
| 01:24:39 | _seb_ | 16 :| |
| 01:25:50 | Aghnar | and how many Go of MP3 ? :D ^_^ |
| 01:26:17 | radhard | Enjoy it! Seb: Why :|, you have all this to walk through, and i don't think you have to fear it. |
| 01:26:25 | radhard | many Go of MP3? |
| 01:26:30 | _seb_ | Heh... I have 17 gigabytes |
| 01:26:49 | radhard | Wait, I'll have to ask my refry, if i could have another beer. |
| 01:27:01 | Aghnar | ?? |
| 01:27:10 | Aghnar | refry=? |
| 01:27:10 | _seb_ | I think refry = frigo? |
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| 01:27:39 | Aghnar | =hard drive ? :D |
| 01:28:07 | lc_ | washing machine ? :) |
| 01:28:27 | _seb_ | lc, are you another frenchman? |
| 01:28:34 | _seb_ | *frenchperson |
| 01:29:04 | Aghnar | i have 30Go of MP3, my archos is not enough :) |
| 01:29:05 | lc_ | yes |
| 01:29:55 | radhard | refrigerator, short form. I donÄt have any mp3s , i beleive. It's just some music files. What is mp3? |
| 01:30:15 | Aghnar | are you kidding ???? |
| 01:30:24 | radhard | You're talking about 30GB, aren't you? |
| 01:30:38 | Aghnar | yes |
| 01:30:52 | Aghnar | Bytes=Octects in french ;) |
| 01:30:54 | radhard | No, but if i tell you, you'll call the RIAA! And btw. I also buy lots of CDs.... |
| 01:31:26 | _seb_ | radhard: 1. You are in Germany, not USA. 2. You can have legal MP3s, I have ripped most of my CDs to MP3 |
| 01:31:28 | radhard | Who on earth would have figured that out? ;) |
| 01:31:46 | _seb_ | :) |
| 01:32:36 | Aghnar | hell the SWAT won't come in your house if you tell us how many gigs you have ! ;) |
| 01:33:09 | _seb_ | But I might... when I come to Germany for the WM |
| 01:33:33 | radhard | It doesn't matter where i am. do you follow latest regulations? Well, it fit's my Archos ;) |
| 01:33:41 | lc_ | they should comme to mine. My flat has a lan with 1.6TB on it :) |
| 01:34:01 | radhard | _seb_: Are you on the mailing list? |
| 01:34:08 | Aghnar | ok, good night everyone :) |
| 01:34:08 | _seb_ | radhard: yes |
| 01:34:14 | _seb_ | aghnar |
| 01:34:17 | _seb_ | good night |
| 01:34:51 | radhard | Tried the latest cube path? I'd like to hear some opinions... |
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| 01:35:44 | radhard | I thought it's been a comment on your flat LAN ;) |
| 01:35:57 | _seb_ | the cube screensaver? |
| 01:36:04 | radhard | Yepp |
| 01:36:10 | _seb_ | I only have the player :/ |
| 01:36:37 | radhard | Oh, sorry. Never mind. 20G? |
| 01:37:10 | _seb_ | Yup |
| 01:37:31 | radhard | I thought 6 is enough, but you can imagine, what happened... |
| 01:37:35 | _seb_ | heh |
| 01:37:48 | radhard | You have holidays? |
| 01:38:00 | _seb_ | today, yes |
| 01:38:28 | radhard | I just wondered, what a 16 year old boy does in the IRC at that time... ;) |
| 01:39:12 | _seb_ | well, I am supposed to be doing homework |
| 01:39:43 | radhard | Hehe. Nice homework. Does it have something to to with internet and social affairs? |
| 01:39:53 | _seb_ | No, it's calculus :) |
| 01:40:11 | _seb_ | Do you have the recorder? |
| 01:40:19 | radhard | Yes. |
| 01:40:29 | radhard | Nice device. |
| 01:40:30 | _seb_ | Do you have a player as well? |
| 01:40:35 | _seb_ | Yes, I wish I had it |
| 01:40:50 | _seb_ | Mein Vater hat fuer mich den Player bestellt waehrend ich vom Haus weg war, obwohl ich ihm gesagt hatte dass ich den Recorder wollte |
| 01:41:00 | radhard | No, my account manager told me not to have a player as well... ;) |
| 01:41:22 | _seb_ | I've been thinking about maybe selling the player so I can buy a recorder |
| 01:41:32 | _seb_ | But I need to save money for college |
| 01:42:01 | radhard | Oh, that's a bad story. Do you know about the 14 day return regulation with online ordering? |
| 01:42:15 | _seb_ | No... |
| 01:42:46 | _seb_ | It didn't really matter to me at the time, only when I found out about Rockbox I wished I had the bitmap display instead of character cell :) |
| 01:42:46 | radhard | Ok, that's important too! And rockbox doesn't support recording by now. |
| 01:43:16 | radhard | Yeah, that's indeed an advantage. |
| 01:43:54 | _seb_ | I think maybe eventually they will lower the price for the recorder, and then I can buy it. |
| 01:45:24 | radhard | Well, since I'm not on holidays, I think i have to go to sleep. Don't pull a long face, maybe you've got some time left for math ;). Yeah, would be great if they lower the prices sometimes. I dare for a 20G recorder ;) |
| 01:45:51 | _seb_ | Ooh a 20G recorder :) war gut, mit dir zu reden. Schlaf gut. |
| 01:46:28 | radhard | Gute n8! und viel Spass mit rockbox und deinem Player! |
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| 07:02:47 | Zagor | morn |
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| 07:20:09 | Loser11 | Anyone in here? |
| 07:21:23 | LinusN | i'm here |
| 07:21:47 | Loser11 | with rockbox can you shuffle all your folders or just one? |
| 07:23:04 | Loser11 | also im getting a 20 gb archos record for 229$ is that a fair price? |
| 07:23:16 | Loser11 | recorder* |
| 07:23:56 | LinusN | Rockbox can only play one dir at a time |
| 07:23:59 | LinusN | use a playlist |
| 07:25:02 | LinusN | $229 seems fair, but I don't know much about the price level in the US, i live in Sweden |
| 07:25:12 | Loser11 | ok |
| 07:25:15 | Zagor | with a playlist you can shuffle the entire disk |
| 07:25:51 | Loser11 | do you suggest archos over the other Harddrive MP3 players? ie. ipod and nomad? |
| 07:26:05 | Zagor | Yes |
| 07:26:44 | Loser11 | rockbox doesnt freeze the Player like ive been reading happens on some forums and reviews? |
| 07:26:47 | LinusN | (of course) |
| 07:26:56 | LinusN | freeze? |
| 07:27:27 | Loser11 | no i didnt read rock box froze up the jukebox the firmware that comes with it does |
| 07:29:59 | Loser11 | how is rockbox better than the factory firmware? |
| 07:31:06 | Zagor | better features, better sound, faster |
| 07:31:51 | Loser11 | it has better sound? |
| 07:32:11 | Zagor | that's what people say |
| 07:33:35 | Loser11 | coo |
| 07:33:38 | Loser11 | cool* |
| 07:33:49 | LinusN | (except this one guy who filed a bug report on the quality of the treble EQ setting) |
| 07:33:51 | Loser11 | you havent had any probs. with your jukebox? |
| 07:34:00 | LinusN | define probs |
| 07:34:22 | LinusN | i haven't had any H/W problems, no |
| 07:34:52 | LinusN | except that my unit draws more power than many others when using the SLEEP mode of the hard drive |
| 07:35:47 | Loser11 | some people say they had HD problems or the unit wouldnt power on |
| 07:36:05 | Zagor | those problems are mostly due to low batteries |
| 07:36:59 | Loser11 | 10 solid hours of use with 1 charge? |
| 07:37:42 | LinusN | yup |
| 07:37:47 | Zagor | that depends how you use it. fuzz around a lot and it will be empty after 8 hours. play a list and you can get 11 or more. |
| 07:39:01 | Loser11 | im getting mine tomorrow i think |
| 07:40:28 | PsycoXul | hey whats to keep players from overcharging with rockbox left idle |
| 07:40:42 | LinusN | nothing |
| 07:41:08 | PsycoXul | i see |
| 07:41:14 | PsycoXul | i guess i should be careful doing that then heh |
| 07:41:20 | Loser11 | overcharging? |
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| 07:41:41 | Zagor | Loser11: don't worry, recorder20 doesn't have that problem. only older models. |
| 07:41:48 | Loser11 | what happens if you overcharge? |
| 07:42:03 | LinusN | your batteries will wear out a little faster |
| 07:42:22 | Loser11 | also does archos jukebox support wma files? |
| 07:42:54 | Zagor | Loser11: no, mp3 only |
| 07:43:15 | Loser11 | dang oh well |
| 07:43:25 | Loser11 | and the recorder 20 doesnt have overcharge problem? |
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| 07:44:34 | Loser11 | what about the recorder 15?!? thats the one i meant im getting the recorder 20 is 279 i only have 240$ |
| 07:44:48 | Loser11 | does recorder 15 over charge? |
| 07:44:53 | LinusN | no |
| 07:45:03 | PsycoXul | recorders have fancy charging code |
| 07:45:22 | Loser11 | oh, its only the players that over charge? |
| 07:45:26 | LinusN | PsycoXul: or rather, recorder charging is software controlled |
| 07:45:37 | LinusN | players are hardware "controlled" |
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| 07:46:05 | Loser11 | ok thanks for the help you guys! |
| 07:46:46 | | Quit Loser11 () |
| 07:47:54 | LinusN | woo, looks like Zagor's computer died |
| 07:54:18 | | Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 07:54:28 | LinusN | yo Bagder! |
| 07:54:32 | Bagder | morning |
| 07:55:03 | mecraw12 | LinusN: maybe Bagder killed Zagor's computer |
| 07:55:19 | LinusN | that would be just like him |
| 07:55:30 | * | Bagder looks innocent and whistles |
| 07:56:20 | mecraw12 | maybe not, afterall, he looks innocent |
| 07:56:49 | Bagder | what happened to zagor's computer? |
| 07:57:10 | LinusN | Zagor has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 07:57:17 | Bagder | ah |
| 08:00 |
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| 08:02:02 | LinusN | yo Zagor! |
| 08:02:04 | LinusN | reboot? |
| 08:02:17 | Zagor | nope. −−- Disconnected (No route to host). |
| 08:02:23 | Zagor | i don't know why |
| 08:02:39 | Bagder | prolly a bostream thing |
| 08:02:47 | Zagor | yup |
| 08:02:51 | Bagder | it's been funny on me the last couple of days |
| 08:02:59 | Bagder | short glitches |
| 08:03:10 | LinusN | badness |
| 08:05:03 | Bagder | fun cube variations ;-) |
| 08:23:21 | LinusN | Bagder: are you going to commit the cube? |
| 08:23:40 | Bagder | once I've tried it I guess so |
| 08:36:08 | Zagor | i'll add that 8MB mod link to the mod page |
| 08:36:21 | Bagder | good idea |
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| 08:37:01 | calpefrosch | morning |
| 08:37:35 | | Nick calpefrosch is now known as calpef[away] (~calpefros@30.ip-net01.empolis.com) |
| 08:37:35 | Bagder | morn |
| 08:39:20 | LinusN | ah, finally got the audio feedback working when recording |
| 08:39:30 | Bagder | rockers |
| 08:40:15 | LinusN | then internal mic is picking up lots of noise from the hard drive |
| 08:40:27 | LinusN | but i don't see how to prevent that |
| 08:50:03 | Bagder | hm |
| 08:50:22 | Bagder | why does my info screen pop back immediately? |
| 08:50:48 | LinusN | Because of the release event |
| 08:51:06 | Bagder | but that's anded away, isn't it? |
| 08:51:47 | LinusN | that AND operation is silly |
| 08:51:58 | LinusN | it just removes the REL bit |
| 08:52:13 | Bagder | ah true |
| 08:52:20 | Bagder | me fix |
| 08:55:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 08:56:12 | LinusN | we should always wait for a key-release, methinks |
| 08:56:34 | LinusN | in this case, we should wait for a key-down, and then key-up |
| 08:58:13 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:00 |
| 09:05:18 | Bagder | it now says 1.69MB |
| 09:05:37 | Bagder | it makes me want higher res on that thing ;-) |
| 09:06:03 | LinusN | I think that info page is silly |
| 09:08:44 | Bagder | well I like it for this purpose ;-) |
| 09:09:45 | PsycoXul | so when's the partition info thing gonna show free space? |
| 09:11:17 | LinusN | PsycoXul: that is a FAT issue, not a partition issue |
| 09:11:29 | PsycoXul | i see |
| 09:11:59 | PsycoXul | speaking of FAT issues, any progress on file writing? |
| 09:12:01 | LinusN | finding free space requires counting the amount of free clusters in the FAT |
| 09:14:12 | Zagor | PsycoXul: i'm working on file writing |
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| 09:16:13 | | Nick Hadaka_ is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) |
| 09:19:18 | LinusN | Bagder: while codepolicing the cube, why didn't you remove the typedefs? |
| 09:19:29 | Bagder | because I didn't feel like it |
| 09:20:49 | LinusN | and the mixed-case symbols |
| 09:21:02 | | Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084BD70.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:21:04 | Bagder | go ahead |
| 09:21:52 | Bagder | I don't see any point in enforcing every bit that strict |
| 09:22:01 | Bagder | so those who do may fix those flaws |
| 09:22:15 | Bagder | like Zagor ;-) |
| 09:24:15 | Bagder | anyone object if I remove the right-side column in CREDITS? |
| 09:24:34 | TotMacher | put me in the credits |
| 09:24:53 | Bagder | what's your real name? |
| 09:25:00 | TotMacher | Christian Sprajc |
| 09:25:19 | LinusN | Bagder: not really |
| 09:25:22 | TotMacher | hehe |
| 09:25:56 | Bagder | TotMacher: and for what masterpiece should you be included? |
| 09:26:16 | TotMacher | my gigantic comments in irc channel |
| 09:26:39 | TotMacher | hehe |
| 09:26:40 | TotMacher | okok |
| 09:26:45 | TotMacher | have to work |
| 09:26:46 | TotMacher | cu |
| 09:26:51 | Bagder | hehe, cu |
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| 09:29:34 | LinusN | Bagder: auto-generate credits.c? |
| 09:29:59 | Bagder | yah |
| 09:36:08 | PsycoXul | hey how feasible would it be to support on-the-fly decompression of .Z and .gz on the archos? |
| 09:36:14 | PsycoXul | i.e. for reading compressed texts |
| 09:36:37 | Zagor | libz is big :-) |
| 09:36:40 | Bagder | it would make more sense to decompress it first |
| 09:36:46 | Bagder | waste disk space and save ram |
| 09:37:19 | PsycoXul | i see |
| 09:37:45 | PsycoXul | i'm mirror'ing this archive of 600MB+ of mostly compressed text, which i plan to throw on there heh |
| 09:38:12 | PsycoXul | i dunno how big it might be uncompressed... |
| 09:39:08 | Bagder | huge |
| 09:39:37 | PsycoXul | yes, that's why i wonder heh |
| 09:40:25 | PsycoXul | i suppose it might have to wait for dynamic mp3 buffer and loadable modules? heh |
| 09:43:51 | PsycoXul | or maybe with file write support, somebody could do a firmware that's just the browser, rolo, and a decompressor... select the file and it writes out a decompressed file then you can load the normal firmware back and view it normally... heh |
| 09:44:37 | Bagder | indeed |
| 09:53:46 | bobTHC | hi all! |
| 09:54:12 | bobTHC | can i use 4 caracters for month in my traduction ? |
| 09:54:54 | LinusN | i don't think so |
| 09:55:07 | bobTHC | because in french it's on 4 car |
| 09:55:27 | Bagder | nope, you can't |
| 09:55:52 | bobTHC | ok |
| 09:55:53 | bobTHC | thx |
| 09:57:09 | Bagder | we should do something different to deal with those darned key release events |
| 09:59:27 | Zagor | what's the problem? |
| 09:59:37 | Bagder | it hits us in the face too often |
| 09:59:49 | Bagder | now I exited the cube screen |
| 09:59:58 | Bagder | and the release event hits the menu |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:07 | Bagder | so I get two levels back on each exit |
| 10:00:47 | Zagor | so code should exit on a specific key, and not any key. i don't see the big problem. |
| 10:00:56 | mbr | Moin |
| 10:01:00 | Bagder | it does exist on a specific key |
| 10:01:03 | Bagder | on the DOWN event |
| 10:01:12 | Bagder | and the release event gets received in the other screen |
| 10:01:14 | Zagor | so how can it be double? |
| 10:01:20 | Bagder | which exits on that specific key |
| 10:01:33 | Bagder | but ok, they should exist on the release |
| 10:01:36 | Bagder | exit |
| 10:01:51 | Bagder | debug_menu.c:175: `MPEG_LOW_WATER' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 10:02:32 | Bagder | sorry |
| 10:03:32 | mbr | Bagder: The "3-letter abbreviation for weekday" change is not correct. set_time supports at the moment up to three letter abbreviations |
| 10:04:01 | adi|home | bitch bitch bitch |
| 10:04:09 | Bagder | I doubt anyone will use less than the max for that |
| 10:04:26 | mbr | German for example will use 2 |
| 10:04:35 | Bagder | oops ;-) |
| 10:04:36 | mbr | Mo DI Mi Do Fr Sa So |
| 10:05:14 | LinusN | bobTHC: what was your real name again? |
| 10:05:35 | Bagder | mbr: ok, I'll fix the desc |
| 10:05:43 | mbr | OK |
| 10:07:10 | Bagder | we have a red build |
| 10:07:39 | LinusN | me fix |
| 10:09:00 | LinusN | Bagder: w32 build is your work, i think |
| 10:09:12 | Bagder | yeps |
| 10:18:19 | | Join dug [0] (~navworks1@ppp-158.net-202.magic.fr) |
| 10:18:24 | dug | hello everybody |
| 10:18:30 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 10:19:10 | adi|home | is it just me or does the cube just seem off at times... |
| 10:19:18 | adi|home | like its not exaclty a cube... |
| 10:19:23 | adi|home | misshaped... |
| 10:19:29 | Bagder | I get that idea too |
| 10:19:50 | dug | escuse me, but everyone speak french ? |
| 10:19:52 | dug | :) |
| 10:19:54 | Bagder | but I'm not sure if its truly an error or just something that looks odd |
| 10:20:00 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:20:02 | adi|home | same here... |
| 10:20:04 | Zagor | dug: only a few people |
| 10:20:08 | * | Bagder points to bobTHC the frenchie ;-) |
| 10:20:22 | dug | oki, thanks |
| 10:22:45 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 10:22:59 | bobTHC | bonjor dug |
| 10:23:02 | dug | ok... i'm go in english... but it's dangerous :) |
| 10:23:07 | dug | ouff..; sauvé :) |
| 10:23:34 | dug | en fait, je voulais savoir rapidement ce que vous pensiez de multimedia |
| 10:24:52 | Bagder | I love this comment: |
| 10:24:59 | Bagder | "Don't hesitate to buy if you find another player whose firmware is hacked by a team of programmers and everyday you have another nice feature in your MP3 player. " |
| 10:26:24 | adi|home | hehe where was that? |
| 10:26:30 | Bagder | funmp3 |
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| 10:27:05 | adi|home | nods |
| 10:29:37 | | Join MamaiWK [0] (~Mamai@lys.gltrade.fr) |
| 10:29:42 | MamaiWK | Hi |
| 10:29:55 | MamaiWK | Hello Dug |
| 10:30:23 | dug | hello MamaiWK |
| 10:32:34 | LinusN | dug: we think the multimedia is a cool thing, but we have no intention to make any software for it as of today |
| 10:32:52 | LinusN | it is a totally different hardware |
| 10:33:22 | Bagder | and none of us have one |
| 10:33:43 | dug | ok LinusN, thanks for you "reponse" |
| 10:33:57 | MamaiWK | Dug : answer |
| 10:34:09 | LinusN | de rien |
| 10:34:13 | MamaiWK | ah merde c'est con çà |
| 10:35:03 | dug | :) |
| 10:35:06 | MamaiWK | Does another project, like rockbox, is planed in the near future but for the multimedia version ? |
| 10:35:25 | Bagder | not by the same people |
| 10:35:39 | MamaiWK | Tient un Linus qui parle franchi |
| 10:35:42 | Bagder | but there are some people who wants to |
| 10:35:50 | MamaiWK | good |
| 10:36:10 | MamaiWK | does they already have a web page ? source code, doc ... ? |
| 10:36:12 | Bagder | hehe, right, but wants is not the same as can or will :-) |
| 10:36:25 | Zagor | MamaiWK: they only have 20 messages of discussion |
| 10:37:55 | MamaiWK | "only" means they are not enough request for further investigation, and development ? |
| 10:38:24 | Bagder | it means that they need more people, more skill, more time, more research etc |
| 10:38:27 | LinusN | MamaiWK: they haven't examined the hardware, they are only discussing it in general terms |
| 10:38:45 | MamaiWK | ok |
| 10:38:59 | Zagor | in short: everybody is requesting. nobody is doing. |
| 10:39:15 | dug | j'ai compris moi ;) |
| 10:39:18 | Bagder | they're all beggars ;-) |
| 10:39:53 | Zagor | update, back soon |
| 10:39:54 | | Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") |
| 10:40:18 | MamaiWK | I think we could expect a new project soon dedicated for the Arcos, multimedia. It has is big potentiel, don't you think so ? |
| 10:40:42 | * | bobTHC commit francais.lang v1.11 |
| 10:40:48 | MamaiWK | Dug, t'as plus qu'a ty mettre. |
| 10:41:09 | MamaiWK | c'est le debut pour le multimedia. Sa peut etre interessant, non ? |
| 10:41:15 | dug | :)... ouai, sans les docs technique, ça va etre dure... |
| 10:41:27 | bobTHC | tous ce trouve sur internet |
| 10:41:30 | dug | pas trop envi de l'ouvrir le 1er jours ;) |
| 10:41:42 | | Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 10:41:44 | MamaiWK | il faudra ce contenter de l'OS d'Arcos au début en fait. sachant que faire un os équivalent prendra un certain temps ! |
| 10:41:45 | Bagder | MamaiWK: yes, if there's someone DOING something and not just talking |
| 10:42:03 | bobTHC | hehe.. |
| 10:42:06 | dug | :) |
| 10:42:15 | Bagder | wanna hear my judgement? |
| 10:42:22 | MamaiWK | yes |
| 10:42:23 | dug | MamaiWK: un achos mm... pour m'aider, ça te dis pas ? |
| 10:42:24 | Bagder | we'll never see a custom firmware for the multimedia |
| 10:42:30 | Zagor | please speak english here |
| 10:42:44 | dug | ok, no problemo ;) |
| 10:42:53 | MamaiWK | bobTHC: les docs technique sont sur le net ? |
| 10:42:59 | Bagder | it's not a judgement, its a guess rather |
| 10:43:02 | LinusN | MamaiWK: making a new firmware for the multimedia is a lot more work than for the MP3 jukebox |
| 10:44:29 | MamaiWK | I think so too. But a much exiting experience |
| 10:44:40 | LinusN | MamaiWK: docs for the multimedia? |
| 10:45:18 | MamaiWK | yes |
| 10:46:10 | MamaiWK | Were could we find the "only 20" discution thread about the multimedia jukebox plz ? |
| 10:46:42 | Zagor | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosmultimedia |
| 10:47:07 | Zagor | no, wrong. sorry. |
| 10:47:08 | MamaiWK | thx |
| 10:47:10 | Zagor | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JBMMFirmware |
| 10:47:20 | Zagor | the first is just a user group. |
| 10:53:37 | Zagor | xfree86 is a strangely closed club... |
| 10:55:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 10:57:00 | adi|home | move sokoban levels to an external file and just keep one level in ram |
| 10:57:12 | adi|home | meaning a data file to read levels in from as you complete the current level? |
| 10:57:39 | matsl | Bagder: Question about new X11 key event code? |
| 10:57:58 | LinusN | adi|home: excellent ides |
| 10:58:10 | Bagder | matsl: yes? |
| 10:58:24 | adi|home | LinusN: i was refering to the todo list.. but thats the general idea, yes? |
| 10:59:12 | adi|home | only prob with that is that the data file will need to be on the player/recorder as well. |
| 10:59:19 | adi|home | no level file, no way to actually play |
| 10:59:30 | matsl | Bagder: I think key repeat is making it hard to use. Can it be turned of for the simulator? |
| 10:59:44 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 10:59:59 | Zagor | adi|home: yes, that's the general idea |
| 11:00 |
| 11:00:17 | matsl | Bagder: So I'm right in assuming that I must turn of the key-repeat to use it then. |
| 11:00:49 | Bagder | matsl: I don't need to do that, my key repeat isn't that insane |
| 11:00:54 | adi|home | so we are willing to accept that the user with dl a 'data' file onto their player as well in order to play? |
| 11:01:04 | Zagor | adi|home: yes |
| 11:01:26 | Zagor | .rockbox/sokoban.levels or whatever |
| 11:01:53 | Bagder | and we need a Sokoban Level Editor (tm) ;-) |
| 11:02:02 | matsl | Bagder: Insane? You mean that you are fast |
| 11:02:17 | Bagder | meaning that I have no problem with the repeat |
| 11:02:26 | bobTHC | now we use .rockbox directory to store lang & fonts , why not levels and hi scores... |
| 11:02:46 | matsl | Bagder: have you tried the player simulator? |
| 11:03:05 | Bagder | nope |
| 11:03:11 | Bagder | why is that different? |
| 11:03:37 | matsl | Bagder: i don't know. care to give it a spin? |
| 11:04:08 | LinusN | .rockbox/sokoban/levels.txt |
| 11:04:17 | Bagder | matsl: works fine for me |
| 11:04:24 | Bagder | ecept for the graphical junk |
| 11:04:24 | LinusN | and later on .rockbox/sokoban/hiscore.txt |
| 11:04:32 | Zagor | LinusN: fine with me |
| 11:04:37 | matsl | Bagder: Hmm... Strange. |
| 11:05:16 | bobTHC | someone will tweak the hiscore...if it's text file.. ;) |
| 11:06:26 | | Join SillyFly [0] (~luk@212.199.219.19) |
| 11:07:10 | SillyFly | can someone tell me what FONT_ASCENT and FONT_DESCENT on a BDF file mean? |
| 11:07:28 | bobTHC | u thin the HP48games emul8tor is a good idea? |
| 11:08:02 | Zagor | bobTHC: could be fun |
| 11:08:03 | matsl | Bagder: Sorry. I was mistaken. (about the repeat) I can get params in wps but when I use the arrow keys to set tyhe volume nothing happens. |
| 11:08:51 | LinusN | SillyFly: FONT_DESCENT is the number of pixels below the baseline the lower part of, for example' 'g' is |
| 11:08:57 | Zagor | http://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/doc/bdf.TXT :-) |
| 11:09:06 | Bagder | matsl: I don't understand you |
| 11:09:24 | Bagder | I have found a bug |
| 11:09:47 | Bagder | I have a dir with no working mp3 (all 0 bytes) |
| 11:09:54 | Bagder | ah |
| 11:09:54 | Bagder | no |
| 11:10:02 | Bagder | it's a simulator problem |
| 11:10:11 | Zagor | matsl: your xemacs has eaten 30000 cpu minutes so far on linux3... |
| 11:10:21 | Bagder | xemacs is evil |
| 11:10:42 | matsl | Zagor: I'll fix! No xemacs is good. eating CPU is bad! |
| 11:11:20 | Bagder | its just that xemacs has a history of doing just that ;-) |
| 11:13:34 | matsl | Bagder: I know. I'll feed it to the xemacs developers. Now there should be more CPU-cycles to spend on linux3. |
| 11:13:51 | Zagor | goodie |
| 11:13:54 | * | Bagder uses plain old emacs ;-) |
| 11:17:22 | * | Zagor is off for lunch |
| 11:17:33 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|lunch (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 11:19:24 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 11:20:18 | Topic | "Rockbox Lunch Today. Special Price For You." by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 11:27:49 | | Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 11:36:39 | adi|home | bahh... cpu-cycles should only be spent on seti |
| 11:41:54 | adi|home | 1090 units baby |
| 12:00 |
| 12:32:17 | | Nick LinusN|lunch is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 12:55:17 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 13:00 |
| 13:11:18 | adi|home | linus in the playlist_info struct |
| 13:11:20 | adi|home | filename |
| 13:11:27 | adi|home | does that include the full path, or just the filename? |
| 13:11:58 | Bagder | the full one |
| 13:12:16 | adi|home | ok |
| 13:12:29 | adi|home | any problem you think if i implement a %pp for the wps? |
| 13:12:34 | adi|home | sorry.. %pn |
| 13:12:36 | adi|home | playlist name |
| 13:12:47 | adi|home | was a feature request and its not bieng used yet |
| 13:12:57 | LinusN | shoot |
| 13:13:41 | adi|home | why do we have a playlist_amount function rather then just referencing the playlist.amount? |
| 13:15:05 | Bagder | because this way we don't give away implementation details |
| 13:15:11 | adi|home | k |
| 13:15:22 | adi|home | just seemed C++ish to me :) |
| 13:15:26 | Bagder | because the mpeg for example needs the info, and that's firmware |
| 13:15:34 | adi|home | nods |
| 13:15:34 | Bagder | we can't have the firmware knowing imp details in the apps |
| 13:17:54 | | Nick Zagor|lunch is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 13:17:58 | adi|home | int dirlen; /* Length of the path to the playlist file */ |
| 13:18:13 | adi|home | that basically is how many chars to the name of the playlist itself? |
| 13:18:39 | adi|home | "/foo/list.m3u == 5?" |
| 13:19:17 | Bagder | I guess so |
| 13:19:31 | adi|home | well.. find out in a sec :) |
| 13:22:14 | LinusN | do we have any problem making lcd_double_height a no-op on old players? |
| 13:22:25 | LinusN | instead of #ifdef |
| 13:22:40 | Bagder | I don't think so |
| 13:23:02 | LinusN | i'll do that |
| 13:27:09 | matsl | Suggestion: Small change to status_draw on player. Now nearly all icons are drawn by status_draw. I suggest all are. Means. no more lcd_icon() from rest of code. Replaced by status_set_XXX or using other status vars. What do you think (I have the code ;-) |
| 13:30:23 | Zagor | matsl: the difference is lcd_icon() actively talks to the lcd controller. status_draw doesn't. |
| 13:31:50 | matsl | Zagor: status_draw calls lcd_icon. |
| 13:32:19 | Zagor | ok, now i read what you wrote... sounds good to me. |
| 13:33:02 | matsl | Zagor: make it easier for the player simulator too. |
| 13:33:08 | matsl | makes |
| 13:33:11 | Zagor | yup |
| 13:33:16 | Zagor | shoot |
| 13:33:34 | matsl | it's on its way! |
| 13:33:51 | * | Bagder buckles up |
| 13:36:06 | adi|home | if %pp shows the playlist name, should i include the extension or no? |
| 13:36:16 | adi|home | %pn rather |
| 13:36:23 | Bagder | I would guess not show it |
| 13:36:32 | adi|home | nods |
| 13:43:16 | adi|home | okay.. %pn added :) |
| 13:51:08 | bobTHC | the uplang script dont updat the desc ??? |
| 13:51:23 | Bagder | oh |
| 13:51:40 | Bagder | uh no ;-) |
| 13:51:41 | Bagder | me fix |
| 13:52:35 | bobTHC | i "uplang" the french.lang with the new one and only the new string have been added not the description update (for the 3 car max) |
| 13:56:47 | * | LinusN runs the same .MOD on both oldplayer and newplayer now |
| 13:57:37 | Bagder | r0ck |
| 13:58:18 | Bagder | bobTHC: fixed now |
| 14:00 |
| 14:03:14 | adi|home | am i correct that when we do have recording working we will not be able to record to other formats then mp3? |
| 14:03:58 | Zagor | correct |
| 14:05:09 | adi|home | okay.. so the record to wav feature request, can i close that? |
| 14:05:29 | Zagor | yup |
| 14:06:00 | adi|home | how about the Multimedia archos one you replied to.. can i close that> |
| 14:06:00 | LinusN | well, you can dream, canät you? |
| 14:06:23 | Bagder | NO |
| 14:06:24 | Bagder | :-) |
| 14:06:30 | adi|home | sure i can.. but what does your girlfriend naked in a vat of jello have to do with this? |
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| 14:07:56 | adi|home | so, no response.. im closing the Multimedia firmware feature request. |
| 14:09:41 | Zagor | do so |
| 14:11:36 | Bagder | the set time simulator crash is the lack of rtc_read() simulation |
| 14:11:39 | | Join vekar [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-665.ath.forthnet.gr) |
| 14:11:50 | adi|home | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=623289&group_id=44306&atid=439118 |
| 14:11:54 | adi|home | is _not_ a bug |
| 14:11:56 | adi|home | can i kill it>? |
| 14:12:10 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:13:37 | Bagder | in what unit is the year returned from the RTC? |
| 14:13:46 | LinusN | RTFDS |
| 14:13:53 | Bagder | I refuse to |
| 14:13:55 | Bagder | :-) |
| 14:14:18 | vekar | thanks for %pn, adi|home! |
| 14:14:29 | vekar | (assuming adi|home = adiamas) |
| 14:15:27 | adi|home | nods |
| 14:15:30 | adi|home | no problem |
| 14:15:36 | adi|home | any others that you 'must have' :) |
| 14:15:47 | adi|home | i have right and center alignment on my list as well |
| 14:16:39 | LinusN | adi|home: yellow build |
| 14:16:46 | adi|home | ack! |
| 14:17:50 | mbr | Bagder: Do you think the crash is because of rtc_read()? |
| 14:18:06 | Bagder | because of the stupid simulation layer for it, yes |
| 14:18:11 | adi|home | fixed |
| 14:18:28 | mbr | The segfault occurs in vsnprintf() |
| 14:18:33 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:18:43 | Bagder | because the rtc_read() doesn't do good enough |
| 14:18:43 | mbr | Don't understand that. |
| 14:19:50 | mbr | The time/date struct is set to valid values in simulator .. |
| 14:20:14 | mbr | no rtc_read is done. |
| 14:20:20 | Bagder | yes, but not year, day and month |
| 14:20:35 | Bagder | so it reads outside the arrays |
| 14:21:12 | Bagder | don't worry, me fix |
| 14:21:39 | mbr | OK, I'll watch the diff and (hopefully) understand :) |
| 14:22:07 | LinusN | Bagder: i'm about to commit the unified player mod |
| 14:22:24 | LinusN | this will break the daily build scripts |
| 14:22:27 | LinusN | you fix? |
| 14:22:35 | Bagder | why will they break? |
| 14:22:49 | LinusN | no HAVE_NEW_LCD_CHARCELLS |
| 14:23:07 | LinusN | only two options to the configure script |
| 14:23:21 | LinusN | no ARCHOS_PLAYER_NEW |
| 14:23:29 | Bagder | but those don't break the build |
| 14:23:37 | Bagder | ah ok |
| 14:23:39 | Bagder | now I see |
| 14:23:49 | Bagder | so go break them |
| 14:24:16 | Bagder | mbr: no more crash now ;-) |
| 14:26:02 | LinusN | KABOOM! |
| 14:26:17 | LinusN | committed |
| 14:26:30 | Bagder | I can basicly stop building the playerold, right |
| 14:26:32 | bobTHC | it's a very good thing |
| 14:26:45 | LinusN | Bagder: rather the playernew |
| 14:26:54 | LinusN | or whatever |
| 14:26:56 | Bagder | we only have player and playerold |
| 14:26:59 | LinusN | ok |
| 14:27:48 | | Part vekar |
| 14:28:34 | Bagder | LinusN: post a little note to the list about the merge |
| 14:28:39 | LinusN | i will |
| 14:30:39 | adi|home | when cron runs.. how can i check what environment it is running with? |
| 14:30:45 | adi|home | ie: what bins it has access to |
| 14:31:14 | adi|home | or does it run with whateer root has |
| 14:31:22 | Bagder | make a cronjob that dumps 'env' to a file ;-) |
| 14:31:26 | Schnueff | yes |
| 14:31:38 | Schnueff | or even to stdout, should get a mail normally |
| 14:31:46 | Bagder | ah, even better |
| 14:32:04 | Bagder | LinusN: I think it'll build fine now |
| 14:32:10 | | Part lc_ ("Client Exiting") |
| 14:33:04 | Schnueff | PATH is |
| 14:33:05 | Schnueff | set to "/usr/bin:/bin". HOME, SHELL, and PATH may be overridden by settings in the crontab |
| 14:33:05 | * | LinusN holds his breath |
| 14:33:17 | Schnueff | normally... |
| 14:33:26 | adi|home | hmm... odd... |
| 14:33:28 | mbr | Bagder: AH, now I understand. HAVE_RTC is also defined for simulator ... |
| 14:33:38 | Bagder | right! ;-) |
| 14:33:43 | adi|home | im getting errors about it not seeing a command, but i see it plain as day in /usr/bin |
| 14:33:46 | Bagder | makes better simulations |
| 14:34:03 | Schnueff | hm |
| 14:34:04 | LinusN | adi|home: is it a script? |
| 14:34:20 | adi|home | yup |
| 14:34:22 | LinusN | perl? |
| 14:34:23 | adi|home | run-parts |
| 14:34:29 | adi|home | a default script in rh |
| 14:34:30 | Schnueff | whats the first line of the script? |
| 14:34:32 | adi|home | no bash |
| 14:34:36 | Schnueff | maybe thats not in path |
| 14:34:42 | mbr | Bagder: Yes. But I missed this change. |
| 14:34:59 | adi|home | bash is in /bin |
| 14:34:59 | LinusN | make sure that the script language binary is also in the path (perl, bash, ...) |
| 14:35:02 | adi|home | so it should be |
| 14:35:49 | Schnueff | but if you provide the absolute path to /usr/bin/run-parts you still get the error? |
| 14:36:05 | Bagder | 4 minutes and counting... |
| 14:36:45 | matsl | Zagor: didn't check in the status_draw things right away. Wanna know why? |
| 14:37:31 | Bagder | you don't wanna wear that silly hat saying "I caused a red build" ? ;-P |
| 14:37:47 | * | adi|home owns the yellow hat |
| 14:37:53 | matsl | no problem. I'm used to it ;-) |
| 14:37:58 | * | LinusN has a "red build" tatoo |
| 14:38:17 | matsl | I think it is rather cute actually ;-) |
| 14:38:35 | Bagder | "but sometimes they are REEEEED" (great song by Monty Python) |
| 14:38:39 | LinusN | Bagder: is the HTML template changed too? |
| 14:38:43 | Bagder | no |
| 14:38:48 | Bagder | that is |
| 14:38:56 | Bagder | the table should adjust itself |
| 14:38:59 | LinusN | ok |
| 14:39:05 | LinusN | thatäs cool |
| 14:39:09 | Bagder | we'll see if that works ;-) |
| 14:39:16 | LinusN | in about 2 minutes |
| 14:39:51 | LinusN | how about the daily build tar file creation? |
| 14:40:10 | Bagder | the tar file is all the soure, no change there |
| 14:40:20 | Bagder | the daily target build script is adjusted |
| 14:40:29 | Bagder | but not the html that shows them |
| 14:42:08 | Bagder | woo! |
| 14:42:12 | LinusN | yellow! |
| 14:42:34 | Bagder | but the table did the job ;-) |
| 14:42:45 | adi|home | nods |
| 14:43:02 | adi|home | your missing a stub |
| 14:43:07 | adi|home | has_lcd |
| 14:43:08 | matsl | Bagder: (player simulator) I can get <param> display by pressing <RETURN> but I can't get to the set volume display. Can you? |
| 14:43:26 | Bagder | never tried it |
| 14:44:11 | matsl | That's why we want the X-keys to work properly insn't it? |
| 14:44:48 | LinusN | Bagder: i don't get any warnings when i build |
| 14:44:58 | LinusN | did you rerun configure? |
| 14:45:03 | Bagder | no |
| 14:45:09 | Bagder | me do that |
| 14:45:12 | LinusN | then ARCHOS_PLAYER isn't set |
| 14:45:50 | Bagder | argh you |
| 14:45:53 | matsl | Is this a good time to do some other check ins or should I wait? |
| 14:45:55 | Bagder | why change that? |
| 14:46:08 | LinusN | Bagder: change? |
| 14:46:24 | Bagder | why do I need to rerun configure? |
| 14:46:50 | LinusN | i am silly |
| 14:47:05 | Bagder | I get the warning anyway |
| 14:47:06 | LinusN | or am i? |
| 14:47:10 | Bagder | ../../apps/menu.c:109: warning: implicit declaration of function `has_new_lcd' |
| 14:47:11 | LinusN | i get it too |
| 14:47:16 | LinusN | i was blind |
| 14:47:41 | LinusN | but i don't like having to use HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS when i really want to test for a Player |
| 14:48:03 | Bagder | so? it doesn't affect configure |
| 14:48:14 | LinusN | forget about configure |
| 14:48:28 | LinusN | but configure doesn't set ARCHOS_PLAYER |
| 14:48:37 | LinusN | it only sets HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS |
| 14:48:50 | Bagder | it sets ARCHOS_PLAYER |
| 14:49:14 | Bagder | but not the simulator one |
| 14:49:30 | LinusN | and that's why we have ayellow build on the sim build |
| 14:50:20 | Bagder | we agreed a long time ago to check for features, not models, and that's why the sim makefile doesn't specify models, only features |
| 14:50:59 | LinusN | ok, tell me what feature hwcompat should test for? |
| 14:51:14 | LinusN | it has code for each model |
| 14:51:33 | LinusN | #ifdefing for a feature is silly in that context |
| 14:52:17 | Bagder | I'm not telling you how to do, I'm explaining why this works like this now |
| 14:52:44 | LinusN | btw, why doesn't the simulator use config.h? |
| 14:53:04 | Bagder | because the sims aren't a player nor a recorder |
| 14:53:11 | LinusN | setting ARCHOS_PLAYER will automatically set HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS |
| 14:53:17 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:53:45 | LinusN | Bagder: but they simulate a player or a recorder |
| 14:53:56 | Bagder | not necessarily |
| 14:55:14 | LinusN | no, someone may get the idea of creating a simulator version with a recorder having LCD display, but why? |
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| 14:56:09 | Bagder | because I've seen no reason to forbid writing more specific/weird/special test cases |
| 14:56:26 | Bagder | like the player sim today uses lots of recorder lcd stuff |
| 14:56:35 | Bagder | it makes it a player-hybrid |
| 14:56:44 | LinusN | ok, never mind, i'll change the #ifdef |
| 14:57:04 | Bagder | where #ifdef PLAYER #else /* recorder*/ would've made it impossible |
| 14:58:14 | Bagder | you can probably solve it with checking for SIMULATOR, as otherwise it'll have a model defined |
| 14:59:44 | LinusN | for now, it's only the lcd version check anyway, and that is at least related to the LCD type anyway |
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| 15:00:09 | Bagder | ah, true |
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| 15:00:48 | LinusN | it will be a little different when the HD poweroff function is added |
| 15:02:03 | LinusN | did we fix the danish peak meter bug? |
| 15:02:28 | Bagder | hehe |
| 15:02:31 | Bagder | the yellow moved |
| 15:02:58 | Zagor | LinusN: yes, that's when we discovered we had to bump the language version |
| 15:03:12 | Bagder | which we haven't done yet |
| 15:03:16 | LinusN | Bagder: ah, forgot to include config.h |
| 15:04:41 | Bagder | LinusN: we should move the simulator stuff out from mpeg.c and have them in a separate stub file, don't you agree? |
| 15:05:05 | LinusN | Bagder: i agree, and i don't agree |
| 15:05:19 | Bagder | :-) |
| 15:05:26 | LinusN | lots of the mpeg code needs to be duplicated |
| 15:05:32 | LinusN | i don't like that |
| 15:05:41 | LinusN | not lots, but some |
| 15:06:54 | Zagor | duplicated? |
| 15:07:01 | Zagor | you mean the function names? |
| 15:07:14 | LinusN | the tables for the min/max/default values |
| 15:07:58 | LinusN | not that it is serious if they aren't alike |
| 15:08:48 | Bagder | it just seemed silly that my commit now is made in the same mpeg that is used on target when the fix is all simulator related |
| 15:08:59 | Bagder | no biggie |
| 15:09:27 | Zagor | but i agree. we should stub as much as possible. |
| 15:09:46 | LinusN | it sure would make mpeg.c cleaner |
| 15:10:06 | matsl | Bagder: are you making the simulator actually to simulate playing? |
| 15:10:15 | Bagder | *shrug* no |
| 15:10:23 | Bagder | :-) |
| 15:10:29 | * | matsl aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.......... |
| 15:10:32 | Bagder | well, perhaps one day |
| 15:10:49 | Bagder | simulate playing would basicly mean increase the timer |
| 15:10:57 | Bagder | and call the playlist code |
| 15:11:13 | LinusN | Zagor: do we allow SF bug reports on daily builds now? |
| 15:11:36 | matsl | i know. seems so simple but hard to do with mpeg.c. |
| 15:11:57 | Bagder | matsl: right, that's a good reason to not use the actual mpeg.c in simulator builds |
| 15:12:11 | LinusN | mpeg_stubs.c? |
| 15:12:14 | Zagor | LinusN: yes. i'll update that page |
| 15:12:54 | Bagder | LinusN: I'd rather see mpeg split in one hw-related and one data-related file, as then we could use the data one in the simulator as is and replace the hw-related one |
| 15:12:55 | LinusN | that's another reason to use config.h |
| 15:13:08 | LinusN | the data-related is hw-dependent |
| 15:13:30 | LinusN | or what do you mean by "data"? |
| 15:13:33 | Bagder | we use defines when we build the simulators as well, that's not a problem |
| 15:13:51 | Bagder | the problem is the hw-related code |
| 15:13:52 | LinusN | Bagder: is HAVE_MAS3507D defined in simulator? |
| 15:14:03 | Bagder | it would be, if we need it |
| 15:14:17 | LinusN | we do, if we want the settings to be correctly simulated |
| 15:14:26 | Zagor | that's very unimportant |
| 15:14:45 | Bagder | but so easily done so we could just as well do it |
| 15:15:13 | LinusN | Zagor: it is important if we want to take screenshots from the simulators |
| 15:16:14 | Zagor | not that they are correct |
| 15:16:47 | LinusN | no? |
| 15:17:38 | Bagder | it doesn't matter |
| 15:17:43 | Zagor | no, why would the max value for example be important for the simulator? duplicating this is no biggie. |
| 15:17:45 | Bagder | we'll have the sim support them |
| 15:20:38 | LinusN | how do i commit a deleted file without committing the rest in my CVS tree? |
| 15:20:50 | Bagder | cvs ci filename |
| 15:21:00 | Schnueff | no tab completion though :) |
| 15:21:24 | LinusN | Schnueff: :-) |
| 15:22:23 | bobTHC | what the H & V resolution and font size for rockbox fonts? |
| 15:22:49 | LinusN | bobTHC: it depends on the font |
| 15:23:15 | LinusN | resolution is pixels |
| 15:23:37 | bobTHC | asking general setting to convert ttf to bdf |
| 15:47:57 | matsl | Bagder: Any conclusion about the mpeg-thread for the simulator? |
| 15:48:16 | Bagder | nothing for now at least |
| 15:48:19 | matsl | ok |
| 15:49:29 | LinusN | i think mpeg-stubs.c is the way to go |
| 15:50:03 | Bagder | and duplicate the stuff they can share? |
| 15:50:18 | LinusN | yup |
| 15:50:32 | Bagder | I disagree |
| 15:50:54 | Bagder | I'd rather have a big #ifdef SIM around all functions in mpeg that the stub offers |
| 15:50:58 | Bagder | and then the sim uses both files |
| 15:51:44 | LinusN | and what about the target? |
| 15:51:57 | Bagder | you mean MAS type? |
| 15:52:05 | LinusN | i mean mpeg.c |
| 15:52:21 | Bagder | I don't understand, what about it? |
| 15:52:23 | LinusN | i thought the point of this action wa to clean up mpeg.c? |
| 15:52:31 | Bagder | it would |
| 15:52:38 | Bagder | imho |
| 15:53:13 | Bagder | you'd only have one #ifdef and one #endif instead of today's 132 (well I didn't count ;-) |
| 15:53:15 | bobTHC | uwe is here? |
| 15:54:54 | LinusN | time to go home |
| 15:54:58 | LinusN | bye all! |
| 15:55:01 | Bagder | see ya linus |
| 15:55:13 | | Part LinusN |
| 15:55:13 | * | Schnueff .. away too |
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| 16:04:32 | bobTHC | maximum size for *.fnt font file ? |
| 16:04:58 | Zagor | 8KB |
| 16:05:08 | Bagder | 9000 bytes actually |
| 16:05:17 | matsl | cu |
| 16:05:24 | | Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") |
| 16:05:25 | Bagder | bye mats |
| 16:05:51 | bobTHC | ouch by default when i generate on from bdf file size is near 280kb !!!!! |
| 16:06:19 | Bagder | that's because you don't strip out all the bazillion unicode characters |
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| 16:10:16 | bobTHC | i limit it to 128 and the file is around 2.5kb !!!! thanx |
| 16:10:30 | Bagder | limit it to 256 |
| 16:10:44 | Bagder | then you have the iso8859-1 set |
| 16:11:29 | bobTHC | 256>5kb always good |
| 16:13:50 | bobTHC | not really iso8859-1 compliant because some car miss but better ;) |
| 16:21:09 | bobTHC | where can i find a already compiled recoreder sim for win32 ??? |
| 16:22:59 | bobTHC | i'm surely blind bust i don't see it on the website... |
| 16:23:17 | | Quit calpef[away] ("Bye bye, cu l8r") |
| 16:23:37 | Bagder | there isn't one |
| 16:24:27 | bobTHC | i must compil it myself? |
| 16:24:40 | Bagder | yes |
| 16:24:50 | Bagder | and even then you'll get problems |
| 16:24:50 | Zagor | bottom of daily build page |
| 16:26:41 | Bagder | it needs fixes to build |
| 16:26:52 | Bagder | I know edx has made several but not yet committed them |
| 16:27:39 | Bagder | bobTHC: the win32 simulators are not very well taken care of |
| 16:30:51 | bobTHC | it's just to test my freshgenerated fonts... |
| 16:31:14 | Bagder | don't be a chicken, try them on target ;-) |
| 16:31:18 | bobTHC | don't worry i can wait this night... |
| 16:31:56 | bobTHC | i haven't here !!! |
| 16:32:39 | Bagder | ok then, you're excused ;-) |
| 16:33:14 | bobTHC | hehe, no i MUST have it with me!!!! |
| 16:44:36 | elinenbe | woooo! who is going to test the new code :) |
| 16:48:27 | Bagder | YOU! |
| 16:48:42 | elinenbe | well, lemme at it. |
| 16:48:55 | Zagor | elinenbe: this was just test code, not the actual fat code... :-) |
| 16:48:58 | Bagder | that's only development code, not for live tests |
| 16:51:37 | Bagder | I like the gap in the daily build table ;-) |
| 16:51:48 | elinenbe | well, let me at the live code. |
| 16:51:52 | elinenbe | I'm hungry |
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| 16:53:23 | Zagor | i will check it in soon. but it's FAR from ready. |
| 16:53:31 | Zagor | so you'll stay hungry a while more :-) |
| 16:53:47 | Bagder | nah, he can fix the remaining things ;-) |
| 16:55:21 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 17:02:22 | Zagor | Bagder: will you cut player-old from the compile status table? |
| 17:03:49 | Bagder | it'll vanish automaticly |
| 17:03:54 | Zagor | ah, ok |
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| 17:05:51 | Bagder | hi edx |
| 17:08:05 | Bagder | Zagor: I'm rewriting the cvs log script to output html instead of plain text |
| 17:08:18 | Zagor | ok, nice |
| 17:08:19 | Bagder | example: http://daniel.haxx.se/test.html |
| 17:09:19 | Bagder | I guess I shall stuff lots of classes in there |
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| 17:10:23 | Zagor | yup :) |
| 17:11:07 | edx | hi |
| 17:11:20 | edx | hmmm i dont get sound on one ear... right now |
| 17:11:36 | edx | i hope i wont have to send in the device again! |
| 17:14:42 | edx | wtf.. |
| 17:14:48 | edx | why does it work with the original firmware |
| 17:14:55 | * | edx puts rockbox on again |
| 17:15:15 | Bagder | Zagor: you want me to store a bigger example somewhere so that you can work out some nice ccs stuff before we replace the text logs? |
| 17:15:54 | Bagder | css |
| 17:16:32 | edx | ahh.. now it works ;) |
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| 17:23:36 | Zagor | Bagder: i think i want it as a table anyway. css can't do that :-) |
| 17:23:57 | Zagor | uh, no wait. i'm silly. |
| 17:24:14 | Bagder | check the page now |
| 17:24:17 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/test.html |
| 17:24:29 | Zagor | yup, looks good |
| 17:24:54 | Bagder | but it needs some formatting to look nice |
| 17:25:04 | Zagor | indeed :-) |
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| 17:30:56 | Triple-z | hey |
| 17:31:03 | Bagder | howdy ho |
| 17:31:21 | Triple-z | anyone saw the new nomad zen? |
| 17:32:52 | Bagder | I read some of the slashot crap |
| 17:33:20 | Triple-z | goods bads? |
| 17:33:38 | Triple-z | the design looks good |
| 17:33:51 | Triple-z | http://www.nomadworld.com/products/jukebox_zen/ |
| 17:33:52 | Bagder | they just talk about how this is cheaper than ipod |
| 17:33:53 | Zagor | it seems like a rec20-style device, but as usual crappy Creative software and limited protocols |
| 17:34:28 | Bagder | "SB1394" is enough to make you laugh |
| 17:34:30 | Bagder | or cry |
| 17:35:17 | Bagder | Zagor: starting tomorrow, the daily builds get html versions of that changelog too |
| 17:35:29 | Bagder | to work out the css on |
| 17:35:30 | Triple-z | woot |
| 17:35:44 | Bagder | then we can fix the the build table ones to be html too |
| 17:35:53 | Zagor | yup |
| 17:36:20 | Triple-z | whats the quque function stats? |
| 17:36:55 | Bagder | it won't happen anything much on queue things until we have file writes |
| 17:37:45 | Zagor | oh my god, it actually has usb1, not usb2... bwahaha! |
| 17:38:13 | Bagder | the specs page only says "USB" |
| 17:38:52 | Zagor | yeah, well if they had usb2, they would be bragging about it all over. |
| 17:38:59 | Triple-z | is there chance for a search option in the future? |
| 17:39:04 | Bagder | yes |
| 17:39:05 | Zagor | Triple-z: yes |
| 17:39:11 | Triple-z | cool |
| 17:39:12 | Bagder | "# Transfer your songs and other files in a flash with SB1394 FireWire® - 10x faster than USB!" |
| 17:39:18 | Bagder | surely indicates usb1 |
| 17:39:21 | Zagor | yup |
| 17:39:23 | Triple-z | cant wait for quque & search :P |
| 17:39:39 | Bagder | Triple-z: stop waiting, start coding ;-) |
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| 17:40:06 | Bagder | "Powerful, simplistic icon-driven interface with Quick Scroller Navigation" |
| 17:40:11 | Bagder | icon-driven? |
| 17:40:19 | Bagder | hehe |
| 17:40:32 | Bagder | I never understood that kind of marketting talk |
| 17:41:11 | Zagor | "Creative File Manager. Move non-music files quickly and easily with this handy little program that fits on a floppy." did they ever hear of "copy", "drag&drop"??? |
| 17:41:22 | Bagder | requirements include: |
| 17:41:28 | Bagder | "Sound Blaster® Audigy?, Extigy? or Live!? For EAX® enhanced MP3 encoding" |
| 17:41:43 | Bagder | (the ? above being TM marks) |
| 17:41:46 | Zagor | SB1394 FireWire port (found on Sound Blaster® Audigy? series of audio cards) |
| 17:41:51 | Zagor | isn't that nice |
| 17:42:06 | Zagor | not only firewire, but SB firewire... |
| 17:42:08 | Bagder | someone should sue them |
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| 17:44:39 | Zagor | "Could somebody drag the Irix team kicking and screaming into the 1980's, please? realize it might be quite painful for them, but maybe you could buy them a disco tape, so they'd feel a little bit more at home." −− Linus "Stayin' alive, stayin' alive" Torvalds |
| 17:45:47 | bobTHC | SB1394 is a classical firewire port it's marketing name |
| 17:46:05 | Bagder | no |
| 17:46:20 | Bagder | SB1394 is a creative monster |
| 17:46:38 | Bagder | firewire is 1394 without SB |
| 17:47:43 | bobTHC | i'm agree with u, it's like sony who name it i |
| 17:47:43 | Triple-z | 91% played of track[Guns N Roses - Estranged] · album[Best of Guns N Roses (Ltd. Ed) · 2001] · 9m24s @ 192 |
| 17:48:02 | bobTHC | i.link |
| 17:48:24 | bobTHC | but it's in fact firewire ! |
| 17:48:26 | Zagor | i'm off |
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| 18:26:48 | Triple-z | I Just Love Rockbox! |
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| 21:18:34 | calpefrosch | hello |
| 21:19:00 | calpefrosch | radhard: are u there ? |
| 21:19:44 | calpefrosch | I just go and eat something, will be back in 40-50 min.. |
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| 21:27:34 | langhaarrocker | Holy cow! What happened today? I count nearly 60 commits! |
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| 23:34:40 | Triple-z | is there a option for scroll type like in the archos frimware? |
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