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00:10:23 | radhard | Hi there! I hope everybody had a nice evening! I need a short hint: Does somebody know, how general USB detection works while in demos? Should be a system call or something like... |
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00:17:28 | radhard | It's getting a bit cold in here ;) |
00:17:29 | * | radhard calls into the dungeon: "Hello?" |
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00:18:18 | Jet8810 | hey guys |
00:18:41 | Jet8810 | I have a question for you |
00:18:43 | Jet8810 | anybody alive? |
00:19:05 | radhard | Hi! Yes, at least one. |
00:19:23 | Jet8810 | alright |
00:19:39 | Jet8810 | I just got the archos recorder (studio 20 broke and have best buy warrantee, they happened to have recorder in stock!) |
00:19:46 | Jet8810 | and...I want to auto load a certain font upon startup |
00:19:52 | Jet8810 | online it says to put it in the .rockbox folder |
00:20:14 | Jet8810 | but win2k wont let me make a .rockbox (DOT rockbox) folder...says I need a file name and just plain rockbox wont make it auto load |
00:20:16 | Jet8810 | what am I missing? |
00:20:30 | radhard | mom, have to read that first ;) |
00:21:07 | PsycoXul | Jet8810: do it in a command prompt like the docs say |
00:21:08 | radhard | Why not. I have W2k here, i'll try. |
00:21:18 | Jet8810 | heh psyco...no other way? |
00:21:29 | PsycoXul | why would you need another way? thats the way to do it |
00:21:38 | radhard | If that ain't easy...! |
00:21:43 | Jet8810 | hehe |
00:21:48 | Jet8810 | alright thanks |
00:22:03 | radhard | run/cmd, cd k:\ or whatever, md .rockbox |
00:22:36 | radhard | Worked out? |
00:22:44 | Jet8810 | hmm |
00:23:07 | Jet8810 | how do I get to command prompt? start, run, /cmd? |
00:23:10 | Jet8810 | because that aint working :( |
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00:23:35 | Jet8810 | (i used 98 up to last week so I am kind of clueless as to the ways of 2k) |
00:23:36 | radhard | You type much faster that you make directories.. ;) Sprry. Yes. Start/Run type "cmd" enter |
00:24:18 | Jet8810 | alright |
00:24:20 | Jet8810 | seems to have worked |
00:24:38 | Jet8810 | but |
00:24:41 | Jet8810 | doesnt show up in explorer |
00:24:44 | radhard | You should get a command prompt window. type the archos driveletter "cd x:\" |
00:24:52 | Jet8810 | yea i did that |
00:24:58 | Jet8810 | then md .rockbox |
00:24:59 | Jet8810 | did that |
00:25:02 | Jet8810 | then brought back up C: |
00:25:21 | Jet8810 | wtf... |
00:25:29 | Jet8810 | w/e |
00:25:29 | Jet8810 | i got it |
00:25:34 | radhard | Ok. With dir you can see your rockbox root directory? It should stay on your RB drive. |
00:26:07 | Jet8810 | yea |
00:26:24 | radhard | When in rb /root, type "md .rockbox". Enter. That's it! |
00:26:25 | Jet8810 | for some reason even after typing cd h: it showed H and went righ tback to c before allowing me to type md .rockbox |
00:26:34 | Jet8810 | so I just made it in C: and copied it over |
00:26:42 | radhard | Just try md h:\.rockbox |
00:26:53 | Jet8810 | whatever I have it |
00:27:01 | Jet8810 | made it in c drive and cut and pasted :) |
00:27:20 | radhard | Good, congratulations! Have fun...! |
00:27:45 | Jet8810 | hehe |
00:27:47 | Jet8810 | wait, not over :) |
00:27:54 | Jet8810 | now .rockbox doesnt show up on the recorder |
00:28:03 | radhard | Hmmm, weird. |
00:28:16 | Jet8810 | nm |
00:28:18 | Jet8810 | show all files now it does |
00:28:30 | radhard | You see rb drive in explorer? Ok. |
00:28:55 | Jet8810 | awesome |
00:29:01 | radhard | Works? |
00:29:03 | Jet8810 | recorder seems far superior to the studio |
00:29:09 | Jet8810 | and I got a $50 rebate hehe :) |
00:29:30 | Jet8810 | so my archos stuido broke, took it in with best buy warrantee, luckily they had a used recorder there (working fine so far crossing fingers) and they gave me the $50 rebatre :) |
00:29:48 | radhard | That's cool! Rcorder is much more fun, 'cause it has pixel display. |
00:30:19 | Jet8810 | yea |
00:30:24 | Jet8810 | AUTOVOLUME? |
00:30:25 | Jet8810 | how does it work? |
00:30:36 | radhard | Sorry, not my option ;) |
00:30:37 | Jet8810 | does it read my mind? :-P |
00:30:58 | radhard | Sounds like a dynamic compressor, when i turn it on. |
00:31:25 | radhard | It makes soft parts louder and very loud parts softer. |
00:31:45 | Jet8810 | oh and btw, a question which I have been wondering for awhile...is 5 seconds a safe spindown?? |
00:32:00 | radhard | Try 30 or more seconds, that's better. |
00:32:36 | radhard | It is only while user action, hd is immediately shut down after refilling the buffer when playing. |
00:32:57 | Jet8810 | alright |
00:33:09 | radhard | It's very annoying, if hd always spins down while in the menues... |
00:33:11 | Jet8810 | what is the danger at leaving it at 5 seconds and what difference will it make if I change it to 30 +" |
00:33:32 | Jet8810 | i remember reading that less shock proof and the like |
00:33:50 | radhard | It makes no difference, except easier browsing. Because that's what it's for. It is not used while playing. |
00:34:31 | Jet8810 | so its faster? |
00:34:32 | radhard | No. HD spins down after the buffer is full. |
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00:34:48 | Jet8810 | oh |
00:34:49 | Jet8810 | thans |
00:34:49 | radhard | Yeah, browsing is faster. |
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00:35:26 | Jet8810 | god rockbox is AWESOME |
00:36:24 | radhard | Ok, I'll disassemble a friends recorder. Already got my white coat on and a scapell in my hand. Let's see what is in it.. ;) |
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00:36:47 | Jet8810 | hehe |
00:36:59 | Jet8810 | damn, my pc hard drive is only 20 gb hehe |
00:38:17 | rad[dissecting] | Hmm, that's bad when your recorder also is 20GB. Hint: Don't use it as a windows bootdrive, you might want to hear some music and that won't work with USB attached ;) |
00:38:54 | Jet8810 | hehe |
00:39:14 | Jet8810 | well I have an 80gb drive that I use as a backup because it REFUSES to work a smaster |
00:39:16 | Jet8810 | tried everything |
00:39:46 | rad[dissecting] | Ok, have to do surgery now, he want's to have it back tomorrow.... That should be ok. Maybe Board/bios issue. |
00:41:54 | rad[dissecting] | I've bought a new Bios, then it worked. |
00:43:36 | Jet8810 | does the recorder stop charger batts when they are charged unlike the studios? |
00:46:13 | rad[dissecting] | Good q. I think yes. |
00:50:10 | Jet8810 | hmm |
00:50:14 | Jet8810 | ill ask mailing list to make sure |
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00:58:41 | PsycoXul | yeah recorders have intelligent charging code, since they're charging is software-controlled |
00:58:54 | PsycoXul | players (studio's included) are mostly hardware-controlled charging |
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02:18:34 | rad[assembling] | So, I'm almost ready with reassembling. Dos anybody know, how to detect USB insertion while playing a demo? |
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02:27:26 | rad[assembling] | Ok, see ya! Good night! |
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04:36:28 | mj_home | Hello |
04:36:36 | mj_home | Is anybody there? |
04:52:05 | adiamas | yup.. |
04:52:07 | adiamas | whats up? |
04:53:05 | mj_home | Hello! |
04:53:16 | mj_home | adiamas: I have some really weird mounting issues. |
04:53:26 | mj_home | I managed to mount my Archos using: |
04:53:39 | mj_home | mount -t vfat -o umask=0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos |
04:53:59 | mj_home | But, even though I'm doing this all as root, I get read-only errors. |
04:54:23 | adiamas | do you have your archos listing in you fstab/ |
04:54:25 | adiamas | ? |
04:54:40 | mj_home | It seems to have allowed me to write the Rockbox stuff, but it only allows one write: I now can no longer delete any of the files I put there. |
04:54:44 | mj_home | adiamas: Yes. |
04:54:45 | adiamas | cause that will make your life easier... |
04:54:58 | adiamas | then you should just be able to do "mount /dev/sda1" |
04:55:07 | adiamas | and it will take care of itself... |
04:55:10 | mj_home | adiamas: I did the manual mount because the /etc/fstab entry was also having issues. Here it is: |
04:55:21 | mj_home | /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos vfat umask=0 0 0 |
04:55:28 | adiamas | k... |
04:55:31 | adiamas | what is the error you get? |
04:55:36 | mj_home | And I mount with: "mount /mnt/archos" |
04:55:38 | mj_home | In that case |
04:55:43 | mj_home | Here you go: |
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04:56:21 | mj_home | [root@laptop archos]# rm -rf .rockbox/ |
04:56:21 | mj_home | rm: cannot remove `.rockbox//dansk.lng': Read-only file system |
04:56:21 | mj_home | rm: cannot remove `.rockbox//deutsch.lng': Read-only file system |
04:56:21 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK mj_home |
04:56:21 | mj_home | rm: cannot remove `.rockbox//english.lng': Read-only file system |
04:56:21 | mj_home | rm |
04:56:24 | mj_home | And so on |
04:56:29 | mj_home | Also, now I can't remount it. |
04:56:31 | mj_home | I get: |
04:56:48 | mj_home | [root@laptop root]# mount -t vfat -o umask=0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos |
04:56:48 | mj_home | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, |
04:56:48 | mj_home | or too many mounted file systems |
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04:56:48 | mj_home | [ |
04:57:03 | mj_home | Both ways: i.e., if I try manually or through /etc/fstab |
04:57:20 | mj_home | I don't know what I'm doing wrong. |
04:57:41 | mj_home | I'd love to be able to write to the Archos through Linux. |
04:57:54 | mj_home | But this seems to be frustrating my efforts. |
04:58:01 | adiamas | ahh okay |
04:58:03 | adiamas | ive had that |
04:58:08 | mj_home | adiamas: Ideas? |
04:58:11 | adiamas | the usb driver is known to be buggy |
04:58:12 | adiamas | nods |
04:58:14 | adiamas | reboot :) |
04:58:18 | mj_home | adiamas: Apart from rebooting |
04:58:20 | mj_home | adiamas: Ah |
04:58:21 | adiamas | its the only way around it i could ever find |
04:58:24 | mj_home | adiamas: ok! |
04:58:33 | mj_home | adiamas: So... |
04:58:35 | adiamas | if you figure something else out.. PLEASE let me know :) |
04:59:08 | mj_home | adiamas: You think my ro stuff is bc of the buggy driver. Or am I doing something wrong? Does your /etc/fstab line look like mine? |
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05:02:14 | adiamas | yup.. looks the same |
05:02:21 | adiamas | and your getting the same issue i have had.. |
05:02:24 | adiamas | i don't think its you |
05:02:33 | adiamas | gotta run for a bit.. ill be back |
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08:04:36 | Bagder | hi edx |
08:16:45 | edx | godd morning |
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08:47:43 | adiamas | anyone want to learn an expensive lesson cheaply? |
08:47:51 | PsycoXul | heh |
08:48:14 | Bagder | it sounds sorta painful |
08:48:24 | adiamas | okay.. when your rearview mirror in your car falls off.. |
08:48:29 | adiamas | and you go to remount it... |
08:48:48 | adiamas | pay VERY close attention... |
08:48:53 | adiamas | because *coughs* |
08:49:12 | adiamas | cementing the mounting bracket upside down open a whole new can of worms... |
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08:56:10 | Bagder | morning bro |
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09:03:04 | bobTHC | hi all!!! |
09:03:08 | Zagor | hi |
09:03:09 | Bagder | hey bob |
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10:02:20 | Zagor | interesting. archos claims they turn off the charger on players when the batteries are full |
10:02:40 | Bagder | yeps, I noticed |
10:12:14 | bobTHC | no roadmap for the 1.5 ? just for 2.0? |
10:12:30 | Zagor | the recording release will be 2.0 |
10:12:32 | Bagder | there's no plans for any 1.5 ;-) |
10:12:42 | bobTHC | hehe... |
10:14:56 | bobTHC | the unified firmware for all player is a good thing! |
10:15:04 | Zagor | yup |
10:15:33 | bobTHC | u see the sf.net stat for rockbox? |
10:16:27 | bobTHC | 106k visitor this month |
10:16:54 | Bagder | whoa |
10:17:02 | Zagor | really? |
10:17:47 | bobTHC | thttp://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=44306 |
10:17:48 | Zagor | yikes, why is everybody looking at that page :-) |
10:18:12 | Bagder | that page? |
10:18:15 | Zagor | 106812 page views, 31 downloads. hmm... |
10:18:19 | Zagor | the sf page |
10:18:27 | Bagder | no, its the rockbox site |
10:18:33 | Bagder | the logo display counts |
10:18:41 | Zagor | aaah! now I get it. |
10:19:16 | Schnueff | rank 85 |
10:19:18 | Schnueff | not bad |
10:19:19 | Zagor | more details here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/statistics/ |
10:20:19 | bobTHC | french are more than swedish hehe....!!! |
10:20:29 | Zagor | hehe |
10:21:06 | Schnueff | the manual is not very popular :) |
10:21:15 | Schnueff | ah there |
10:21:21 | Schnueff | mistake |
10:22:11 | Zagor | search for anything remotely mp3 related on google and you hit rockbox :-) |
10:22:22 | Zagor | i tried "rip lame nogap" |
10:22:36 | Zagor | rockbox #5 |
10:23:34 | bobTHC | i understand why u add the "Bandwidth and server sponsored by contactor" |
10:23:34 | bobTHC | :) 3.40 GB |
10:23:34 | bobTHC | of traffic is really heavy |
10:24:20 | Bagder | that's since october 1st, right? |
10:24:24 | Zagor | it's not so bad. 200-300 MB/day. the web site is pretty light-weight. |
10:24:46 | Zagor | Bagder: right |
10:24:58 | Bagder | the curl site served 430MB/day last week |
10:25:37 | Zagor | thursdays are our slowest day, for some reason :-) |
10:26:18 | bobTHC | fortunatly is lightweight ... |
10:27:02 | Zagor | we had half a million hit on the site in september. that's pretty much. |
10:27:14 | Zagor | statistics is fun |
10:27:15 | bobTHC | what type of connection contactor own? |
10:27:21 | Zagor | 2Mbit |
10:27:27 | Zagor | nothing fancy |
10:27:57 | mem | Hi to all |
10:28:03 | Zagor | hi mem |
10:28:15 | bobTHC | bostream ADsl.... |
10:30:00 | Zagor | bobTHC: bostream is our home connections |
10:30:29 | bobTHC | i hope so :) |
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10:30:51 | adiamas | im curious.. the hours... |
10:30:55 | adiamas | is that GMT |
10:30:57 | adiamas | or what? |
10:31:14 | Zagor | adiamas: local time (CET) i think |
10:31:25 | vekar_ | wps question about conditionals and %pn (maybe for adiamas?) |
10:31:31 | Zagor | if you are referring to the statistics |
10:31:31 | vekar_ | %?pn<%pn|Playlist>: %pp/%pe |
10:31:56 | vekar_ | does ?pn test for blankness, or 'defined'? |
10:32:26 | vekar_ | when I play a directory, I get blank instead of the fallback 'Playlist'. wondering why... |
10:33:11 | vekar_ | (i.e., i'm not playing a particular playlist, so ther's no name for %pn to hold) |
10:33:36 | Zagor | good question |
10:33:43 | adiamas | shoot. |
10:34:03 | adiamas | what i did was this... |
10:34:12 | adiamas | if you are not playing a playlist, there is no playlist name to list |
10:34:15 | adiamas | so i don't list it |
10:34:28 | vekar_ | so %pn outputs blank, that's fine. |
10:34:30 | adiamas | because dir/path names are already account for.. |
10:34:32 | adiamas | nods |
10:34:33 | adiamas | exactly |
10:34:37 | vekar_ | but why does the wps test fail? |
10:34:58 | adiamas | hmm... dunno.. |
10:35:03 | vekar_ | that's the question |
10:35:14 | vekar_ | conditionals on blanks work in other cases (id3 tags, e.g.) |
10:35:19 | adiamas | i didn't thin of it to be honest... |
10:35:40 | vekar_ | adiamas, nothing for you to think about. %pn being blank is logical |
10:35:58 | adiamas | nods |
10:36:06 | adiamas | but the conditional should work.. gonna look into it |
10:36:11 | vekar_ | i just can't figure why my line above would ever produce blank |
10:36:15 | Zagor | adiamas: bug: if no playlist, you should return NULL. not a zero string. |
10:36:19 | mem | Zagor: In the FAQ (no 50) it states that the bitrates handled by the encoder is 32k-192k. I have a 16kbps mp3 that works fine on my Recorder |
10:36:24 | adiamas | ahhh.. thats why |
10:36:31 | adiamas | i was returning a Zero string.. right.. |
10:36:33 | Zagor | mem: encoder, not decoder |
10:36:37 | vekar_ | ok |
10:36:52 | mem | Zagor: You're right... |
10:36:58 | vekar_ | adiamas, should i file that, or you have it? |
10:37:05 | adiamas | Zagor you saw the new sokoban_levels.txt file right? |
10:37:12 | adiamas | im getting right no.. no need to file |
10:37:12 | Zagor | adiamas: yup, looks good |
10:37:22 | vekar_ | thx |
10:37:25 | adiamas | k.. then if thats acceptable.. ill work on the actual code |
10:37:32 | adiamas | np vekar_ thanks for catching it :) |
10:37:36 | Zagor | adiamas: do so |
10:38:11 | mem | Zagor: So what's the spec for the decoder? |
10:38:33 | Zagor | mem: 16-320, i think. checking... |
10:38:35 | adiamas | which makes more sense for reading the data file in. parsing the whole file and indexing the levels like we do a playlist. Or just parsing for a level as we need it? |
10:39:00 | Zagor | adiamas: #2, imho |
10:39:53 | adiamas | k. |
10:39:58 | adiamas | then thats the way we go :) |
10:40:34 | Zagor | mem: 8-384 kbit, 8-48 kHz |
10:41:22 | bobTHC | for VBR file created with stock firmware u think it's not possible to add the Toc directly with rockbox? |
10:41:37 | Bagder | bobTHC: when we have file writes, we can |
10:41:43 | Bagder | but it'll be painfully slow |
10:41:56 | mem | Zagor: Quite a large range, I would say. So it wasn't anything special with my 16k-file then :-) |
10:42:07 | Zagor | mem: nope |
10:42:14 | bobTHC | badger : how long? |
10:42:33 | Bagder | bobTHC: I don't know, but the entire mp3 will have to be scanned and rewritten |
10:42:41 | Zagor | bobTHC: 2 seconds per megabyte, at least |
10:42:53 | bobTHC | xwing is better ;) |
10:43:28 | bobTHC | and u think with our firmware will be create the toc? |
10:43:36 | Bagder | yes it will |
10:43:55 | Bagder | using XING |
10:44:28 | bobTHC | yep |
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10:51:35 | Schnueff | instead of rewriting the mp3 one could try to prefix it with a single sector or such a thing |
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10:51:41 | adiamas | anyone have a problem if i change the order of questions in the config script? |
10:51:47 | adiamas | if you say you want a sim |
10:51:59 | adiamas | it would be nice to answer which one next instead of which lang then which sim |
10:53:12 | Zagor | fine with me |
10:53:29 | adiamas | k |
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10:55:13 | Zagor | "The server on which Microsoft makes its beta programs available for testing has been infiltrated by outsiders. MS security flack Rick Miller claims the issue leading to the compromise has been fixed, but would not give any indication of its nature." |
10:55:19 | Zagor | cute |
10:55:30 | adiamas | lol |
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11:04:42 | Bagder | Zagor: if I upload fonts to the fonts/ dir, do they get converted automaticly or so? |
11:05:10 | Zagor | yes |
11:05:26 | Bagder | I'm gonna put the new hebrew ones up there |
11:05:34 | Zagor | good |
11:06:38 | adiamas | know what whould be nice for the next version of the config file ;) |
11:06:45 | adiamas | first question being what language |
11:06:52 | adiamas | and their being translations for the following questions :) |
11:07:10 | Bagder | hehehe |
11:07:18 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
11:07:18 | * | Zagor slaps adiamas |
11:07:42 | adiamas | whats so wrong with that idea? |
11:07:53 | Bagder | it's only for developers |
11:07:56 | adiamas | ive installed german software where i didn't know wtf i was doing till it asked me the language :) |
11:08:19 | Bagder | we don't need to cuddle developers! ;-) |
11:08:27 | * | adiamas sniffles |
11:08:33 | adiamas | no one ever wants to cuddle with me... |
11:08:40 | * | adiamas feels so used |
11:09:02 | Bagder | hey, I'm awaiting that file still |
11:09:05 | Bagder | :-) |
11:09:49 | adiamas | nods |
11:09:54 | adiamas | yeah yeah yeah :) |
11:11:42 | adiamas | damn.. that german mp3 player plays: MP3/WMA/AAC/WAV |
11:28:23 | Zagor | lots of players d |
11:28:24 | Zagor | do |
11:28:38 | adiamas | yeah but this one sounds just like archos |
11:30:03 | Zagor | lots of players sound like it :-) it's the details that bring the archos to the head of the pack: the firmware upgrade, usb2.0, replacable upgradable standard batteries etc. |
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11:30:49 | adiamas | shh.. hes back |
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11:31:14 | Zagor | Bagder_: yikes! played with usb again? ;) |
11:31:29 | Bagder_ | no, with my framebuffer |
11:31:46 | Zagor | ah |
11:32:00 | Bagder_ | I "got stuck" on a virtual screen and couldn't shift back to X |
11:32:10 | adiamas | heheh ive had that |
11:34:47 | adiamas | okay.. %pn now allows for the conditional check |
11:38:36 | bobTHC | i think best *.wps will be aviable on the site with screen capture can be a good thing .... isn't it ? |
11:38:55 | Zagor | yup |
11:39:57 | PsycoXul | Zagor: you don't think a company who's got the recorder MAS's SDK could make it play wma or aac? |
11:40:05 | Zagor | i doubt it |
11:40:11 | Zagor | the dsp is so small |
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11:48:29 | adiamas | new faq question. |
11:48:58 | adiamas | What is bleeding edge/daily build? |
11:50:26 | Bagder | the bleeding edge ones are in the bottom |
11:50:39 | Bagder | they're not named like that |
11:50:40 | adiamas | hehe i know that silly |
11:50:47 | adiamas | that is the new faq question |
11:50:49 | Bagder | ok |
11:50:51 | Zagor | a better question is "what are all these versions", i think. then you describe the official release, the daily build and the bleeding. and the difference. |
11:50:54 | Bagder | that header could be renamed |
11:51:15 | Bagder | instead of "CVS builds" it could say "bleeding edge" |
11:51:18 | adiamas | ahh.. good point Zagor |
11:51:22 | Zagor | Bagder: right |
11:51:50 | Bagder | only two more lines left in the compile table until it'll go narrow |
11:52:00 | Zagor | renamed |
11:52:25 | adiamas | Q64: What are all these versions that Rockbox seems to have? |
11:52:29 | adiamas | that acceptable? |
11:52:43 | adiamas | or should i say 'release versions' |
11:53:11 | Zagor | no, the first version is ok. "release" is one of the versions :-) |
11:53:32 | Bagder | oh, you can also make a point that each daily build contains everything in the sources up to that particular day |
11:53:42 | Bagder | people have asked about that before |
11:54:12 | Zagor | yes, the answer should explain all the builds. such as why v1.4 does not have all the latest features etc. |
11:54:14 | adiamas | well if we only say versions, im afraid ppl will confuse the daily/bleeding/release with rec/player |
11:54:21 | adiamas | nods |
11:54:36 | Zagor | adiamas: right. well, i'm sure you work it out :-) |
11:54:55 | Bagder | Zagor: you can probably remove the player-old .mod stuff from that page now |
11:55:15 | Zagor | yup, i'll do that |
11:55:15 | Bagder | we have two merged daily-builds already |
11:55:43 | Zagor | fixed |
11:56:05 | Bagder | neato |
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12:00:05 | bobTHC | who work on the searchengine except linus? |
12:00:30 | Zagor | linus works on the search enging? |
12:00:48 | Bagder | I don't think Linus does that |
12:01:21 | bobTHC | he talk with me on that in all case ;) , and he have some idea on it... |
12:01:45 | bobTHC | volunteer? |
12:01:48 | Bagder | he talked you about algorithm, yes |
12:01:54 | Bagder | it doesn't mean he works on it |
12:02:36 | bobTHC | i'm agree he dont work on it he think on it if u want.. ;) |
12:03:42 | adiamas | any chance we could rename 'Target builds' to 'Daily builds'? |
12:04:01 | adiamas | or can i do it? |
12:04:04 | Bagder | daily target builds perhaps ;-) |
12:04:10 | adiamas | fair enough :) |
12:04:15 | Zagor | "firmware files" sound ok? |
12:04:44 | adiamas | i like bagders better :) |
12:04:51 | adiamas | "Daily Target Builds"? |
12:04:57 | Zagor | well the whole page is called daily builds, so... |
12:05:00 | adiamas | Firmware Files sounds to general |
12:05:13 | adiamas | true... |
12:05:25 | adiamas | bah.. leave it Target Builds |
12:05:34 | Zagor | :-) |
12:05:38 | adiamas | but im putting anchors in so i can http://..../#here to it :) |
12:06:21 | Zagor | ok |
12:07:28 | PsycoXul | eye goos leap nao |
12:16:06 | Bagder | goose leap ? :-) |
12:16:30 | adiamas | how cna goose leap? |
12:16:35 | adiamas | they have those funny knees |
12:17:51 | Bagder | bbl |
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12:19:06 | adiamas | faq updated |
12:21:18 | Zagor | adiamas: actually, we now accept bug reports for daily build |
12:30:16 | bobTHC | in the same place? |
12:31:55 | Zagor | yes |
12:32:49 | adiamas | right.. i said that |
12:33:16 | adiamas | Daily and Bleeding Edge builds are expected to be buggy. |
12:33:16 | adiamas | We ask that you _do not_ submit bug reports for Bleeding Edge versions, |
12:33:16 | adiamas | but would love to hear any reports you may have about Release or Daily |
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12:33:16 | adiamas | build versions. (see question #62). |
12:33:23 | adiamas | :) |
12:34:03 | Zagor | ah, right. mea culpa. |
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13:07:06 | adiamas | Zagor you around? |
13:07:15 | adiamas | can i kill the 'patch' that just came in |
13:07:17 | adiamas | its not a patch |
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13:51:49 | adiamas | kargatron: i fixed the %pn for ya |
13:51:59 | kargatron | would the dev team find it useful if a list of organized feature requests (say, by more specific functional grouping) were compiled and sent out, for priority-setting purposes? |
13:52:19 | kargatron | i can't help with the code, but could compile that sort of metadata list |
13:52:40 | kargatron | depends on whether the feature request priority list is actually used by team members. :) |
13:53:00 | kargatron | adiamas, thx. (not that the blank was all that confusing, but...) |
13:53:40 | kargatron | the request list atm is pretty hard to parse, and most priorities are at the default 5 |
13:54:10 | adiamas | nods |
13:54:11 | kargatron | i was imagining that given better grouping, priorities could be assigned more easily by the team. (and dupes might be sniffed out) |
13:54:15 | adiamas | we do go over it though |
13:54:26 | adiamas | stuff that peaks our interest gets touched/played with... :) |
13:54:48 | Bagder | kargatron: perhaps you could make a first skeleton version to show us what you mean |
13:54:50 | kargatron | yes, i know that is the primary filter. :) |
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13:57:07 | kargatron | well, it would basiclly be to offer subdivisions of, say, Interface Improvements |
13:57:35 | kargatron | group the playlist requests, battery stuff, music-playing (pitch, mp3gain, etc) |
13:57:46 | kargatron | withthe goal that you guys would then be able to more easily prioritize |
13:58:07 | kargatron | otoh, it's not a trivial task, and if the priority-setting doesn't really guide your work, then maybe not worthwhile |
13:58:57 | Bagder | I think the priority settings would guide us if they were used properly |
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14:00:19 | kargatron | having them 'used properly' would be the goal, yse |
14:00:33 | kargatron | 90% having priority default 5 doesn't qualify, i'd think. :) |
14:01:03 | kargatron | mind you, i wouldn't set the priorities, just compile a listing to let you do it more easily. |
14:01:21 | kargatron | so the quesiton being, do it, or don't bother? |
14:01:58 | Bagder | I think it would be good |
14:02:17 | kargatron | ok |
14:02:22 | Zagor | i think the main reason we don't change it more is that the SF interface is horrible |
14:02:27 | kargatron | agreed |
14:02:40 | kargatron | another reason i thought of helping in this manner... |
14:02:45 | Zagor | a million mouse-clicks for each item you want to change |
14:03:45 | Bagder | going for another reboot |
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14:28:17 | Zagor | the ever-bouncing alan! :-) |
14:29:26 | alkorr | :) |
14:29:33 | alkorr | how are you ? |
14:29:45 | alkorr | seems there is a lot of progress |
14:30:28 | Bagder | there is |
14:41:15 | kargatron | no, it just SEEMS so - it's really all chicanery and fakery |
14:41:33 | Bagder | yes, mostly rubbish |
14:41:49 | kargatron | diluted snake oil |
14:46:51 | adiamas | hungarian notation and .NET code |
14:48:58 | Zagor | lots of .net |
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14:51:24 | alkorr | what are you talking about ? (hungarian notation and .NET) |
14:55:12 | Zagor | bad jokes |
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15:03:26 | kargatron | sent feature request breakdown to rockbox list |
15:03:35 | kargatron | wasn't so bad to make quick pass |
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15:05:29 | Bagder | kargatron: well done |
15:05:54 | _Snorlax_ | y0! anybody here who's willing to complie a .tar.gz file for me? |
15:06:07 | Bagder | complie? |
15:06:33 | _Snorlax_ | Unpack pcmcia-cs-3.2.?.tar.gz in /usr/src. |
15:06:33 | _Snorlax_ | Run ``make config'' in the new pcmcia-cs-3.2.? directory. |
15:06:33 | _Snorlax_ | Run ``make all'', then ``make install''. |
15:06:33 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK _Snorlax_ |
15:06:33 | _Snorlax_ | Customize the startup script and the option files in /etc/pcmcia for your site, if needed. |
15:06:57 | _Snorlax_ | I'm not so good at this.. |
15:08:05 | Bagder | kargatron: I guess a next step would be to add categories to the request tracker so that we can mark them correctly and set a prio at the same time |
15:09:31 | Bagder | _Snorlax_: if you gonna fiddle with those things, that are issues you're gonna have to learn |
15:09:38 | kargatron | sure - but i can't do that. :) |
15:10:07 | Bagder | not until we give you the access, no ;-) |
15:10:19 | Bagder | Zagor: any opinion? |
15:10:24 | _Snorlax_ | k, but can't I send over the source and then you compile it..? |
15:10:41 | Bagder | nope, I'm working |
15:12:20 | Zagor | Bagder: go go go |
15:13:00 | Zagor | anyone who wants to help keeping things tidy is welcome |
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15:13:44 | elinenbe2 | morning... |
15:13:44 | Zagor | kargatron: excellent work |
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15:13:54 | Zagor | hi elinenbe |
15:13:59 | elinenbe | hello |
15:14:16 | elinenbe | how's life going? |
15:14:33 | Zagor | not too painful :-) |
15:14:55 | elinenbe | that's good. |
15:15:21 | _Snorlax_ | anybody how know's which linux raouter/firewall prog to use? |
15:16:13 | elinenbe | Zagor: I have a problem with my jukebox. I loaded it up with DivX movies I pirated off the internet, and it REFUSES to play them no matter what button I press |
15:16:47 | kargatron | hee |
15:17:03 | kargatron | crap, my list didn't contain category = None |
15:17:05 | Zagor | _Snorlax_: linux includes routing. for firewall, just use netfilter/iptables |
15:17:12 | kargatron | did realize that was option, and can't choose search on that |
15:17:14 | Zagor | elinenbe: you don't have the right firmware loaded |
15:17:29 | _Snorlax_ | yeah but what easy to use, for a windows user? |
15:17:46 | Zagor | _Snorlax_: routing and firewalling is not easy |
15:17:57 | _Snorlax_ | plz help me, I've tried clarkconnect(www.clarkconnect.org) |
15:18:04 | elinenbe | Snorlax: use windows IP sharing. That is the easiest for windows users |
15:18:36 | Zagor | _Snorlax_: i can recomment the #linuxhelp channel for this kind of questions |
15:18:37 | _Snorlax_ | it's suppose to be easy but I can't get it to work with my pcmcia nic's! |
15:18:47 | _Snorlax_ | I'm in #linuxhelp.. |
15:18:55 | Zagor | this is #rockbox |
15:19:18 | _Snorlax_ | =) |
15:19:26 | _Snorlax_ | but u know stuff! |
15:19:58 | elinenbe | Zagor: in linux I know it as IP masquerading |
15:20:36 | elinenbe | _Snorlax_: go to the store and pend $29 on a firewall/router by linksys otr netgear, etc... |
15:20:53 | _Snorlax_ | linux is suppose to be best for routing, with a p100 for example.. |
15:21:09 | _Snorlax_ | and 2 nic's |
15:21:11 | Zagor | _Snorlax_: only if you know how to do it |
15:21:25 | Zagor | dedicated hardware is a lot simpler when you don't... |
15:21:34 | elinenbe | Zagor: say it like a true man. |
15:21:44 | _Snorlax_ | I know, but I'm cheap.. |
15:21:55 | Zagor | _Snorlax_: then read and learn. that's free. |
15:22:10 | _Snorlax_ | *HURK* |
15:22:16 | elinenbe | _Snorlax _: or read even more and program your own router! |
15:23:35 | Zagor | _Snorlax_: http://www.linuxrouter.org is a start |
15:24:40 | _Snorlax_ | k, #linuxhel recommended http://www.fli4l.de/english/e_fli4l.htm |
15:25:06 | _Snorlax_ | #linuxhelp |
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15:25:26 | Zagor | looks like a good place too |
15:25:30 | Zagor | hey, matsl! |
15:26:26 | _Snorlax_ | k, thanks! |
15:26:30 | _Snorlax_ | I'll be back! =) |
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15:29:25 | Bagder | kargatron: I'm adding a few very obvious categories |
15:29:25 | Zagor | woo, LinusN |
15:29:41 | bobTHC | hi linus |
15:29:42 | Bagder | Linus da man |
15:30:11 | kargatron | Bagder, ok |
15:30:46 | kargatron | i encourage people to browse the list, tho, see if other cats would be useful, or split out, or conjoined, etc |
15:32:42 | LinusN | cat hunt? |
15:33:03 | matsl | Zagor: been thinking about what we discussed yesterday. Removing ifdeffs on SIMULATOR. |
15:34:23 | Zagor | any new insights? |
15:35:10 | matsl | Zagor: No. Just that it is probably a good thing to do now before attemting to fix other problems with the player simulator. |
15:35:54 | matsl | Zagor: I have a few hours now so I'll look into it if you don't mind. |
15:35:59 | Zagor | well it's not a single fix, it's more of a goal. "keep down the number of #ifdefs" |
15:36:05 | Zagor | go ahead |
15:36:21 | elinenbe | where do the sokoban levels need to exists? |
15:36:36 | elinenbe | in the .rockbox directory? |
15:37:22 | Zagor | .rockbox/sokoban/levels.txt, i think |
15:37:39 | Zagor | then we can have .rockbox/sokoban/scores.txt later |
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15:38:58 | alkorr | Hi linus |
15:39:16 | alkorr | could tell me about mask what means 0x202 ? |
15:41:15 | matsl | Bagder: Q about X11 keys |
15:41:33 | Bagder | try me |
15:41:48 | matsl | Would case BUTTON_ON | BUTTON_DOWN | BUTTON_REL: work Ok now? |
15:41:59 | Bagder | no |
15:42:07 | matsl | Aha. Why? |
15:42:33 | Bagder | the simulator doesn't handle multiple keys |
15:42:42 | Bagder | afaik |
15:43:43 | matsl | ok. |
15:43:58 | LinusN | alkorr: i don't know yet, but the 16-bit word at 0x20000fc seems to be a bit mask that tells things about the hardware |
15:45:02 | alkorr | i want to see if it has a ISD300 |
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15:52:09 | LinusN | alkorr: that may be possible, i haven't examined the database that much yet |
15:54:03 | Bagder | time to go, bye |
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15:54:14 | elinenbe | wow! with the sokoban levels in an external file, the firmware drops by about 60k! |
15:55:40 | kargatron | giddyup |
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16:02:19 | kargatron | why do i often get double copies from the rockbox-sf list? |
16:05:38 | alkorr | it would be interesting to have a good exam of hardware info to guess the "mask" usage |
16:07:23 | LinusN | alkorr: yup |
16:07:32 | LinusN | i have figured the 0x100 bit out |
16:08:04 | LinusN | it tells if the UAB detect and PR signalss are inverted or not, and it also tells if the ATA address is 0x200 or 0x300 |
16:08:07 | LinusN | USB |
16:08:28 | LinusN | the others i don't know |
16:10:41 | kargatron | any sf admins know if the category selector can also include 'None'? |
16:10:46 | LinusN | for example, some units have very dark LCD displays at the default contrast of 32 |
16:10:57 | alkorr | 0x200 for ATA 0x200 ? |
16:11:04 | LinusN | alkorr: no |
16:11:16 | alkorr | no |
16:11:49 | LinusN | 0x100 means inverted signals and address 0x200 |
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16:12:06 | alkorr | see one email which contradicts what I think |
16:12:16 | alkorr | ok |
16:12:16 | LinusN | if that bit is 0 then it is 0x300 and non-inverted signals |
16:12:20 | edx | hi all |
16:12:53 | alkorr | someone called "chad" here ? |
16:13:19 | LinusN | chad? |
16:13:40 | alkorr | chad@thelockwood.net |
16:14:24 | LinusN | never heard of him |
16:14:59 | alkorr | he has the same hardware info but he doesn't give his model |
16:16:24 | LinusN | where? |
16:17:06 | LinusN | what is your info, alkorr? |
16:17:19 | alkorr | rom:1.25 |
16:17:26 | alkorr | mask:0x202 |
16:17:33 | alkorr | usb:neg |
16:17:37 | alkorr | ata:3àà |
16:17:41 | alkorr | pr:neg |
16:17:50 | alkorr | Fr.:11,... |
16:18:31 | LinusN | ok, that's an old hardware |
16:18:40 | alkorr | sure |
16:18:43 | LinusN | seems old, but still not |
16:18:48 | LinusN | hmmm |
16:19:11 | LinusN | it is not likely that you have an ISD300 |
16:19:25 | LinusN | all other models with similar HW info are old |
16:19:39 | LinusN | the 0x200 still puzzles me |
16:19:54 | LinusN | only newer models have that bit set in my database |
16:21:09 | alkorr | it is why i need to know if Chad has USB 2.0 |
16:27:55 | mem | LinusN: Do you need more HW info? Can I help you to tell mine? |
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16:43:04 | kargatron | in request tracker, when is something closed? upon official release of the item? |
16:43:23 | kargatron | i.e. what is a Fixed/Open item, vs Fixed/Closed? |
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16:48:35 | adiamas | can someone read feature request 581908 |
16:48:52 | adiamas | and tell me if it just sounds like he is saying 'i want the player to read my mind and build a playlist for me' |
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16:51:28 | kargatron | his request = queueing + not-writing-to-disk-but-acting-like-it |
16:51:49 | kargatron | who knows why he doesn't want to save the playlist, but it's obviously a trivial aspect to refuse |
16:52:14 | kargatron | he can write it to CURRENT.m3u or something, with little added trouble |
16:53:41 | adiamas | nods |
16:54:01 | adiamas | anyone know if elinenbe was/is working on the sokoban external levels? |
16:54:15 | adiamas | i was/am starting and dont want to do work if he's already taking it |
16:54:35 | kargatron | dunno |
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16:55:55 | LinusN | mem: gimme da info! |
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16:57:52 | adiamas | LinusN: do you know if elinenbe was/is working on the sokoban external levels? |
16:57:56 | adiamas | i don't want to replicate work |
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16:59:56 | LinusN | adiamas: i dunno |
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17:18:38 | elinenbe | boo! |
17:26:28 | adiamas | elinebe did you start working on the sokoban external levels? |
17:27:10 | adiamas | elinenbe heheh sorry.. typo :) |
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17:28:45 | adiamas | elinenbe did you start working on the sokoban external levels? |
17:39:00 | mem | LinusN: I'm been busy for a while, but now can I give you the info. I'm running 1.4 and not todays build |
17:42:19 | mem | LinusN: Debug HW-info: ROM 1.28, Mask 0x0302, USB: positive, ATA 0x200, PR: positive, Freq 11.0592MHz |
17:46:43 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 hours and 33 minutes at the last flood |
17:46:43 | * | mem has to go, see you tomorrow |
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18:02:26 | Zagor | kargatron: we close requests on official releases, yes. or when they are invalid. |
18:03:08 | Zagor | about double copies: they aren't really doubles, you get one mail per change |
18:04:57 | kargatron | oh, you mean a double simultaneous change will spit two mails? |
18:05:11 | Zagor | no, that will just be one mail |
18:05:29 | kargatron | hm, then i swear i often see 2 copies come in at once |
18:05:45 | Zagor | ok. i don't get that. |
18:05:55 | kargatron | i wonder if it could be some filter oddity locally... |
18:07:43 | kargatron | Zagor, can 'none' be added to category search? |
18:08:01 | kargatron | would like to categorize the none, but hard to tell without being able to select on it |
18:08:25 | Zagor | it doesn't seem to be possible, no |
18:08:42 | kargatron | darn |
18:09:15 | Zagor | but: you could parse the raw xml data and thus search any way you want |
18:09:24 | Zagor | we do that for the on-site lists |
18:10:38 | Zagor | grab it here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/sf-tracker.xml (870 KB) |
18:10:55 | Zagor | or maybe you're not a perl person? :-) |
18:11:34 | kargatron | np thx |
18:11:52 | Zagor | our perl scripts can be found here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/sf-tracker/ |
18:12:31 | Zagor | (i'm removing the /sf-tracker.xml link) |
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18:33:36 | alkorr | Did you ever think to use you jukebox as a web server, using RS232 ? |
18:33:48 | Zagor | lol |
18:34:11 | alkorr | there is some uIP code which could be port on jukebox :) |
18:34:32 | Zagor | would be fun |
18:34:39 | Zagor | slow as hell, but fun :-) |
18:34:59 | alkorr | telnet, html, xml... |
18:35:35 | alkorr | what a shade we cannot turn USB chip in a network |
18:35:49 | Zagor | yup |
18:36:51 | alkorr | Linus had made some change in serial.c so we can rx/tx on rs232 ? |
18:37:05 | alkorr | or we just can rx ? |
18:37:40 | Zagor | i think we can just rx right now. the serial in gdb/ can tx too. |
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18:50:01 | hardeep | I'm encountering skips on several of my higher bitrate mp3s when using the daily build |
18:50:16 | hardeep | I'm suspecting the mpeg changes but I haven't had a chance to investigate |
18:51:47 | Zagor | ohh, bad :-( |
18:52:07 | alkorr | Zagor: what's new about fat32 writing ? |
18:52:43 | Zagor | alkorr: not much, coming along slowly |
18:53:23 | alkorr | what is messy is the longname splitting in the directory entries |
18:54:40 | alkorr | you should concentrate on writing file with short filename, much more easy to do |
18:56:01 | alkorr | no unicode too |
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18:57:31 | Zagor | yup. start simple. |
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19:00:16 | O7713 | hiya all |
19:00:45 | hardeep | hello |
19:01:08 | alkorr | cu |
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19:01:22 | O7713 | anyone have any idea what 1.4 version i need for archos studio 20? |
19:01:30 | Zagor | player |
19:01:32 | Zagor | player-new |
19:02:03 | O7713 | oops damn i guess i cant read :)) |
19:02:46 | Zagor | :-) |
19:03:36 | Zagor | Texas Instruments, please join the 90s! |
19:03:57 | Zagor | it's damn impossible to locate data sheets on their web site |
19:07:14 | hardeep | Well, they are in Texas which just recently got out of the 1800s... =) |
19:12:06 | norm_ | Hrm, last time I checked they weren't too hard to find... |
19:12:11 | norm_ | Zagor: didja try googling? |
19:13:10 | Zagor | norm_: oh yes... I'm looking for the TMS320DSC21. Feel free to help. |
19:16:35 | Zagor | all I get is silly one-page pdfs showing nice cameras built with the chip |
19:16:50 | elinenbe | Zagor: what is that chip in? |
19:17:24 | Zagor | the multimedia |
19:18:28 | elinenbe | nice :) −− have you figured out how the firmware is even loaded though? |
19:18:45 | elinenbe | or the compression/encryption? |
19:18:51 | Zagor | it's not. it's fricking flashed! :-( |
19:19:11 | hardeep | blah, you need to reflash to upgrade? |
19:19:16 | Zagor | yup |
19:19:25 | norm_ | Zagor: how old is that chip? |
19:19:25 | elinenbe | ooohhhhh... that is NASTY! |
19:19:33 | norm_ | Looks really new |
19:19:45 | Zagor | norm_: i found press releases about it from 2000 |
19:19:48 | elinenbe | hiope you don't kill the player. |
19:20:08 | Zagor | elinenbe: yeah, it makes it pretty scary to even think about hacking that one... |
19:21:04 | Zagor | norm_: it's a combined ARM7 CPU and TMS320C5000 DSP |
19:21:22 | norm_ | Mmm... StrongARM |
19:21:33 | norm_ | I found a boatload of stuff searching for TMS320 |
19:21:59 | Zagor | wanna hear something wicked about the MM? |
19:22:10 | norm_ | Found a TMS320C5x user's guide on ti.com |
19:22:11 | Zagor | you know how they market is as having 16 MB ram? |
19:22:22 | Zagor | well, that chip has *4 banks* of 16 MB! |
19:22:27 | Zagor | 64MB, baby |
19:22:39 | norm_ | Schveeet! |
19:22:54 | Zagor | norm_: yeah, but I need the exact chip because it has a lot of DSP code built-in |
19:23:10 | norm_ | http://focus.ti.com/docs/apps/catalog/resources/appnoteabstract.jhtml?abstractName=spru056d |
19:23:12 | norm_ | ?? |
19:24:03 | Zagor | norm_: right, that's for the standalone C5000 DSP. I need the DSC21 info. |
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19:31:09 | norm_ | Grrr. |
19:31:22 | norm_ | ti.com isn't very helpful, despite their multitude of search pages |
19:32:18 | Zagor | told you so :-) |
19:33:07 | norm_ | The chip inside the MM actually says TMS320DSC21 on it? |
19:33:20 | Zagor | yes |
19:33:39 | Zagor | ©2000 |
19:34:03 | norm_ | Hrm. |
19:34:19 | norm_ | You can ask them to send you their books and CDs full of datasheets |
19:34:27 | norm_ | It'll take awhile to ship, though |
19:34:37 | norm_ | When I did it, they sent 'em to me for free. |
19:34:42 | Zagor | yeah, well I'm not that interested. was just curious. then annoyed... |
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19:39:28 | will1ams | hi there! |
19:39:43 | Zagor | hi |
19:41:46 | elinenbe | Zagor: are you telling me that the MM actually has 64 megs of RAM? |
19:41:51 | will1ams | i'm from terratec but in love with my archos recorder, because we only have those biiig players and recorders.... |
19:42:39 | will1ams | so, the last one or two month i frequently checked the daily builds and it's amazing |
19:42:48 | Zagor | elinenbe: it looks like it. this is the chip: http://www.issi.com/pdf/42S16400.pdf |
19:43:00 | Zagor | will1ams: glad you like our work :-) |
19:43:17 | elinenbe | so, why are they not enabling all 64 megs? |
19:43:21 | elinenbe | that seems so odd. |
19:43:34 | Zagor | beats me |
19:43:38 | will1ams | hey, it's really perfect to see that motivated people connected over the net are more productive than the company that is building the device |
19:43:55 | norm_ | Such is the wonder of open source |
19:44:11 | will1ams | i remember how long archos took to get rid of the rewind bug |
19:44:32 | elinenbe | Archos can suck a big one. |
19:44:37 | elinenbe | at least their software can. |
19:44:42 | elinenbe | their hardware is a bit better |
19:45:03 | will1ams | a bit ;-) |
19:45:25 | will1ams | i had to buy it because it was the first palm sized device i can record my dj-sets with |
19:45:31 | norm_ | Anybody here played with the Neo jukeboxes? |
19:45:42 | will1ams | i'm @terratec because im musician and dj |
19:46:01 | will1ams | tried it once at a presentation but i don't have more experiences with it |
19:46:06 | Zagor | will1ams: what do you do there? |
19:46:23 | will1ams | searching information on the pitch-function you've build in |
19:46:34 | will1ams | i scrolled through a few irc logs |
19:46:35 | Zagor | hehe |
19:46:41 | will1ams | and found some information |
19:46:59 | will1ams | don't remember the nick of the one who said he's dj and using it |
19:47:24 | will1ams | are the pitch steps limited by somewhat? |
19:47:46 | will1ams | a the moment it's always a 1% step, right? |
19:47:55 | Zagor | yeah, but that's just our chosen step size |
19:48:05 | will1ams | ok, that's what my question is |
19:48:09 | will1ams | so, i spin records |
19:48:20 | will1ams | ahm, real records, vinyl, remember? |
19:48:20 | will1ams | :) |
19:48:27 | elinenbe | it would be nice to have the pitch .1% increments. |
19:48:37 | will1ams | yepp |
19:48:42 | elinenbe | 99.9, 99.8, 99.7 and so on... |
19:48:51 | Zagor | we can do it in 1/18000 increments... :-) |
19:49:00 | elinenbe | well, that is not necessary |
19:49:09 | will1ams | imagine a technics sl1210 (the typical dj-turntable) with a fader that snaps to 1, 2,3 percents, up to 8 |
19:49:10 | elinenbe | I wish we could speed up button repeat. |
19:49:58 | elinenbe | I would like volume to increase faster, and scrolling through directories to be faster... maybe I will check that out today. |
19:50:01 | Zagor | will1ams: i've never dj'd, so I just threw in that 1% step. would .1% be better? |
19:50:25 | elinenbe | Zagor: .1 would be great with "snaps" at the whole percents. |
19:50:31 | Zagor | elinenbe: snaps? |
19:50:33 | will1ams | spoken like a prodigy |
19:50:50 | elinenbe | like if you hold it down it goes pretty quickly from 100->101 percent and then it stays at 101 percent for a sec. |
19:50:52 | will1ams | 0.1 would be very good |
19:51:17 | elinenbe | 100.1, 100.2, 100.3, 100.4, ... 100.9, 101 (hold for a sec), 101.1 ... |
19:51:30 | will1ams | elin: why that? |
19:51:48 | will1ams | because it takes to many "presses" to get to higher percentages? |
19:51:48 | Zagor | elinenbe: wouldn't that be very annoying if you want to go to, say, 106% directly? |
19:51:58 | elinenbe | Zagor: true. |
19:52:02 | elinenbe | forget that idea. |
19:52:11 | elinenbe | just make the button repeat faster :) |
19:52:18 | elinenbe | then tetris will be easier too! :) |
19:52:22 | will1ams | lool |
19:52:23 | will1ams | :) |
19:52:35 | elinenbe | zagor: while you are at it, make me some lunch :) |
19:52:36 | Zagor | hehe. a problem is that I think the dir browser can't scroll much faster. |
19:52:58 | Zagor | but we could always do step-wise acceleration, like in ffwd/rew |
19:53:30 | Zagor | i.e after 2sec repeat, double the speed |
19:53:38 | elinenbe | well, try and do that. |
19:53:38 | will1ams | that is an option, right |
19:53:49 | will1ams | but for me it's not necessary |
19:53:55 | elinenbe | I was trying to do that, but when I made it go faster it would give weird behavior. |
19:54:08 | Zagor | will1ams: what is the normal pitch range you use as a dj? |
19:54:11 | elinenbe | like if I heald down for 2 seconds, then let go, it would still scroll for 2 more seconds. |
19:54:12 | will1ams | normally you don't pitch records more than 4-6% when you'Re mixing |
19:54:29 | will1ams | they will sound to funny if you go to far |
19:54:46 | will1ams | right, there are exections like netherlands hardcore and such things :) |
19:54:50 | Zagor | elinenbe: right, that's due to the repeat being faster than the browser can draw. so you fill up the queue more than it can "eat". |
19:54:51 | elinenbe | it would go REALLY fast, but it was annoying that it would not stop when I let go of the button. |
19:54:52 | will1ams | but normally.... |
19:55:13 | elinenbe | Zagor: it would be nice to max it out. |
19:55:22 | Zagor | elinenbe: i agree. |
19:55:32 | will1ams | so, now the harder questions |
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19:55:37 | Zagor | shoot |
19:55:41 | elinenbe | Zagor: what about a "smooth" scroll, like in the credits, or in oscilloscope −− that is nice. |
19:55:56 | Zagor | yeah, and 8 times as slow... |
19:55:57 | elinenbe | and as shown in oscilloscope it can be done VERY quickly. |
19:56:07 | elinenbe | oh, it is 8times as slow? |
19:56:14 | will1ams | zagor: imagine you're mixing records. the left player is to fast. what do you do? you take your fingers and "brake" a bit, or you accelerate the right one a bit |
19:56:15 | elinenbe | it seems really fast. |
19:56:17 | Zagor | well it is if you have 8 pixel chars |
19:56:27 | Zagor | we could experiment a little with that |
19:56:28 | elinenbe | oh... I see. |
19:56:48 | Zagor | will1ams: ON+PAUSE does that. pause while held down, resume when you release. |
19:57:08 | will1ams | so, with pitchable cd-players for deejays you have to buttons, one to nudge it a little faster, one to make it slower |
19:57:17 | will1ams | zag: yepp, i know that, but you can't speed |
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19:57:39 | will1ams | the problem: you only want to change the speed of the record the crowd isn't hearing at the moment |
19:57:45 | Zagor | will1ams: ah. how much would it normally speed? |
19:58:11 | Zagor | will1ams: well, you'll have two archoses of course. and do this adjustment on the one not mixed out to the crowd. |
19:58:31 | will1ams | in most cases you press the button and it affects the pitch for the time you pressed it to on1 or two percent higher |
19:58:58 | Zagor | will1ams: is ON+PAUSE useful at all? |
19:59:18 | will1ams | zag: right on this, but: the one for the crowd is to fast, you can't brake it, you have to speed up the other one |
19:59:49 | will1ams | so, you need both: pause and "go faster" |
19:59:50 | will1ams | fuck |
19:59:55 | will1ams | and now i have to catch my train! |
19:59:59 | will1ams | sorry for that! |
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20:00:09 | Zagor | np! |
20:00:10 | will1ams | i will connect from my home or i will be here tomorrow! |
20:00:18 | Zagor | cool, see you then |
20:00:25 | will1ams | perfect |
20:00:27 | will1ams | nice guys here! |
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20:01:08 | elinenbe | Zagor: I have been a firm supporter of this project from the VERY beginning (LCD blinks!) and I have tried to code some along the way, and I just want to give an honest thanks for all the hard work and shit the main developers have had to deal with with this project. I truly belive that with rockbox on the recorder, there is no better protable mp3 player. Way to go! |
20:01:22 | elinenbe | Rockbox is the best! |
20:01:28 | Zagor | elinenbe: thanks! |
20:09:14 | Zagor | tea time! |
20:33:03 | Zagor | doh, i'm silly. the ram chip is of course 64 Mbit, not 64 Mbyte... |
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20:48:33 | Danny | ello! |
20:48:45 | Danny | I've just put Rockbox on my JB6000.... |
20:48:50 | Danny | it's quite cool :) :) |
20:49:07 | Danny | however, I noticed it's *permanently* scrolling the songname/artist... |
20:49:29 | Danny | I'm sure the original f/w did it just once then stopped, and I wondered what effect this'd have on the batteries.... :-\ |
20:52:24 | PsycoXul | how sure are you- |
20:52:36 | PsycoXul | and little to no effect on the batteries, probably |
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20:55:29 | Danny | ok :) |
20:55:52 | PsycoXul | on mine, the archos firmware just paused at the beginning before scrolling again, iirc |
20:56:16 | PsycoXul | been a while since i used that crap though heh |
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20:56:31 | Danny | maybe mine was the same then, but depending on the power usage, might be an idea to stop it :) |
20:56:37 | Danny | what kinda power does the screen use anyway? 99% of the time, it's not being looked at, so surely turning it off (like the backlight) would save power? |
20:56:49 | norm_ | The backlight sucks a fair bit of power |
20:56:59 | Danny | but when it's off? |
20:57:03 | Danny | does the screen use much? |
20:57:12 | norm_ | If the backlight is off, it won't suck any power |
20:57:13 | Danny | (the backlight off, playing mp3s...) |
20:57:26 | Danny | the screen still uses power?? |
20:57:34 | Danny | turning it off after 20secs would save power? |
20:57:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:57:44 | norm_ | I don't think we can turn the screen itself off |
20:57:48 | PsycoXul | i implimented a key-combo on my local copy that turns the screen off |
20:57:52 | norm_ | Really |
20:57:53 | norm_ | ? |
20:57:55 | norm_ | Neet |
20:57:57 | Danny | oooh? |
20:57:58 | PsycoXul | i haven't noticed any significant change in play time |
20:58:04 | Danny | hmmm, what language are you doing this in? |
20:58:09 | Danny | (not that I fiddle with things like that ;)) |
20:58:20 | PsycoXul | and my changes are a little buggy to have comitted |
20:58:20 | PsycoXul | C |
20:58:31 | Danny | never used it :( |
20:58:38 | Danny | (I'm a web programmer ;)) |
20:58:48 | norm_ | PsycoXul: do you mean blanking the screen or actually shutting it right off? |
20:59:06 | Danny | I woudln't mind either, just thinking of power while it's not being looked at :) |
20:59:07 | PsycoXul | norm_: the LCD has a powersave mode |
20:59:22 | norm_ | Ah |
20:59:33 | norm_ | Turns the power inverter off? |
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21:00:03 | PsycoXul | norm_: i turn "powersave mode" on, "oscillator" off, and you're supposed to turn off a couple of other circuits, but i can't get them to turn back on properly so i leave them on as it is |
21:00:26 | chpelle | hi all! i have a question: i own a jukebox studio 20 and tried the new rockbox 1.4, but i can't save the settings! can someone help me?? |
21:00:48 | PsycoXul | and i've only tried it on my player |
21:01:04 | Danny | and another question from me... :D |
21:01:04 | Danny | if I take the %s out of the WPS and the text is too long, do I just see the first bit? |
21:01:05 | PsycoXul | you can see about the powersave mode in the commandlist of the datasheet which you can get from the rockbox site |
21:01:15 | Danny | oooh, cool :) |
21:01:24 | Danny | I must learn C.... ;) |
21:01:40 | PsycoXul | Danny: yeah, if it doesn't have %s it shouldn't scroll |
21:01:53 | Danny | so I'd never see the full name? that's no good :( |
21:02:07 | PsycoXul | chpelle: make sure the disk gets spun up after you set your settings.. |
21:02:20 | PsycoXul | Danny: why would you want to do that? heh |
21:02:32 | Danny | It seemed ok today, but I'm just thinking of the drive to work, all day in the office, and the drive back (8:20am-6:30pm) and want to make sure the batteries will last :D |
21:02:45 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:03:02 | Danny | it seems to have been ok today though, and it's still going |
21:03:04 | PsycoXul | well you can bring your adapter and plug it in in the office if you're worried about it |
21:03:06 | Danny | ah, however.... |
21:03:17 | Danny | something I kept noticing today.... |
21:03:31 | Danny | the power level, one bar would be filled (of 3, it's the player) pretty early on in the day |
21:03:35 | Danny | then later, 2 were!!! |
21:03:43 | Danny | it doesn't seem to be able to keep track of the battery :-\ |
21:03:44 | chpelle | i used the daily builds before, everything was ok. the disk gets spun up |
21:04:03 | Danny | (this was the Archos firmware, not sure if Rockbox would fix this....?) |
21:04:04 | PsycoXul | chpelle: hmm |
21:04:32 | chpelle | psycoxul: yes :-) |
21:04:33 | PsycoXul | Danny: rockbox does the battery thing a bit differently |
21:04:49 | PsycoXul | actualy we don't know how much differently exactly, but it does it differently :p |
21:04:58 | Danny | so it might be fixed now? :) |
21:05:28 | PsycoXul | well the archos firmware i know doesn't accurately reflect the battery state untill like a minute after you turn it on |
21:05:40 | Danny | ah, maybe that was it |
21:05:45 | PsycoXul | and other odd things like that |
21:05:55 | chpelle | i tried older rockbox-releases but it does not save anything |
21:06:22 | Danny | I just noticed it was up and down between 1 & 2 blocks like a yo-yo when I looked! I was watching the battery, cos I got it yesterday and wanted it to last the 2 drives & the office (it has and still going!) :) |
21:06:45 | PsycoXul | chpelle: what was the last daily build you used before upgrading to 1.4? there was a point at which the settings version was incremented, which resets the settings to sane values [for the sake of new/removed/changed options] |
21:07:10 | chpelle | let me see |
21:07:29 | PsycoXul | if you've tried it a few times and it still hasn't saved, thats probably not it though |
21:08:24 | chpelle | was between the 28th nov and 5th oct |
21:08:42 | Danny | another quick one... does the volume effect battery usage? I have a car kit, but lineout is too quiet (one of those crappy casette things), but headphones with volume on 100% is much better quality....will it make much difference to the batteries? |
21:08:46 | chpelle | i even formatted my harddisk but nothing changed |
21:09:26 | PsycoXul | Danny: higher volume uses more power in my experience |
21:10:51 | norm_ | PsycoXul: I think it depends on the device |
21:11:09 | PsycoXul | norm_: well on my studio20... |
21:11:19 | norm_ | i.e. budphones will draw less power than, say, a cassette adapter for a car |
21:11:27 | PsycoXul | ah |
21:11:50 | PsycoXul | well with my sony headphones... heh |
21:11:57 | norm_ | EX70? |
21:12:10 | PsycoXul | mcd-cd280 |
21:12:18 | PsycoXul | er mdr not mcd |
21:12:19 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:13:01 | Danny | the car kit (not an Archos one) I've got has an adjustable voltage... would it work with the kit? and is it possible to have it play from that while in the car, and leave the batteries alone? |
21:13:15 | chpelle | where does rockbox saves its settings? on the hd? |
21:13:32 | norm_ | Danny: what do you mean, adjustable voltage? |
21:13:46 | norm_ | Oh, the power supply that you plug into the cig. lighter? |
21:13:52 | Danny | yup, sorry |
21:14:17 | Danny | you can chose the voltage, but not sure what the amps have to do with it (never was good with that electricity stuff ;)) |
21:14:19 | PsycoXul | chpelle: on sector 63 (or was it 64?) of the HD |
21:14:25 | PsycoXul | chpelle: for players |
21:14:39 | PsycoXul | chpelle: recorders save to the RTC, and then the same on the HD |
21:14:39 | norm_ | If it puts out 9VDC w/ center-positive polarity, it *should* work |
21:15:03 | Danny | center-positive? how would I know? |
21:15:08 | matsl|meeting | Zagor: I have an idea for the player simulator. |
21:15:10 | norm_ | There's usually a diagram on it |
21:15:15 | chpelle | ah... so it should work if i "renew" the partition? perhaps there's something wrong?! |
21:15:19 | Danny | k |
21:15:34 | norm_ | A plus or minus sign pointing to a small dot inside a bigger circle |
21:15:50 | PsycoXul | chpelle: no idea... i've never had problems with it |
21:15:55 | Danny | cool :) |
21:16:13 | norm_ | You might even be able to set the polarity, either with a switch or by changing the tip (the part that would plug into the Archos) |
21:16:14 | Danny | well, thanks for your help, I'll leave you be now, just keep doing what you do ;) |
21:16:14 | Danny | btw, do you have a mailing list when for when you release updates? |
21:16:31 | Danny | I've got lots of tips, so I'll take a look later :) |
21:16:43 | norm_ | Right. You can unplug the tip? |
21:16:44 | PsycoXul | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/ |
21:16:49 | Danny | yup |
21:16:58 | elinenbe | Zagor: Kjell is contributing now??!?!? |
21:17:01 | Danny | cheers Pysco |
21:17:04 | norm_ | OK, if you plug the tip in one way, you get center-positive. The other way, you get center-negative |
21:17:16 | Danny | ah! |
21:17:22 | Danny | cool :) |
21:17:23 | chpelle | i hope this will work because i want to use rockbox! it's a really great thing!!! |
21:17:31 | Danny | will this just charge it though, or will it run from the car power and leave the batteries? |
21:17:35 | elinenbe | Zagor: has he been feeling left out? |
21:17:39 | norm_ | You want center-positive. The tip should have + on one side, and - on the other. And the part it plugs into should have an arrow with a "tip" lavel on it |
21:17:55 | PsycoXul | Danny: it just charges the batteries, while the unit still runs off them... |
21:17:56 | norm_ | Make sure the "tip" arrow aligns with the + symbol |
21:18:04 | Danny | yup, I can manage that :) |
21:18:23 | PsycoXul | Danny: generaly using it uses a bit more power than the charger provides, so it won't actualy be "charging" just prolonging the charge |
21:18:27 | norm_ | Danny: sorry to be so verbose, but better to give too much info, than not enough |
21:18:28 | matsl|meeting | elinenbe: Nice to have Kjell working but I need to get him in sync with what I'm doing. |
21:18:55 | Danny | I know, I'm very greatful for all your help :) |
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21:19:15 | Danny | well thanks norm_, PsycoXul.... :-) |
21:19:37 | norm_ | glad to help |
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21:21:33 | chpelle | thanks for your help! i'll try some things |
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21:22:30 | matsl | Zagor: are you there? |
21:22:33 | williams | rehi |
21:23:06 | williams | zagor still there? |
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21:25:39 | williams | looks like he is in great demand :) |
21:37:29 | matsl | bbl cu |
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22:08:34 | O7713 | hiya |
22:09:29 | O7713 | my archos makes strange noises during battery loading since the 1.4 upgrade, any ideas? :) |
22:12:21 | PsycoXul | battery loading? |
22:12:52 | O7713 | ya, battery charging |
22:12:59 | O7713 | sorry for my tarzan english |
22:13:01 | O7713 | :) |
22:13:02 | PsycoXul | heh |
22:13:24 | PsycoXul | does it make the noises if you plug the charger in while the unit's turned off? |
22:14:06 | O7713 | yea when i pull the plug (charger) the noise is gone |
22:17:32 | PsycoXul | well i mean does it only happen when it's actualy turned on, or just always when charging? |
22:17:48 | PsycoXul | the noises, are they from the headphones, or the archos itself? |
22:17:57 | O7713 | always when charging |
22:18:01 | O7713 | its off atm |
22:18:40 | PsycoXul | mine makes a sort of buzzing sound on occasion while charging |
22:19:12 | PsycoXul | i can make it change the way it sounds and get quieter by moving and bending it a bit |
22:19:18 | PsycoXul | is that what you've got? |
22:19:30 | O7713 | lemme check |
22:19:46 | O7713 | the plug or the player? |
22:19:55 | PsycoXul | the player |
22:20:06 | O7713 | how can you bend your player`? :) |
22:20:15 | PsycoXul | just like putting pressure on it |
22:20:27 | PsycoXul | not much |
22:20:31 | PsycoXul | just sorta tweaking it about heh |
22:20:49 | O7713 | hmm |
22:21:04 | O7713 | no, it still the same noise |
22:21:15 | PsycoXul | *shrug* |
22:21:23 | PsycoXul | anyways, if it happens when it's turned off too |
22:21:27 | PsycoXul | then it's nothing to do with rockbox |
22:21:43 | PsycoXul | just a coincidence that it came about when you installed rockbox |
22:21:43 | PsycoXul | heh |
22:21:54 | O7713 | do i have the wrong charger maybe? what is written on your charger, if i may ask? |
22:22:19 | norm_ | O7713: Are you using the charger that came with the unit? |
22:22:37 | O7713 | im not sure, i guess its the right one, but you never know |
22:22:53 | Jet8810 | hey |
22:22:59 | O7713 | i have dozens of chargers here |
22:23:23 | O7713 | it says KINGS ELECTRONICS LTD 9v |
22:24:12 | norm_ | High-pitched buzz or low-pitched buzz? |
22:24:37 | O7713 | kinda high pitched |
22:25:48 | norm_ | This is a player, right? I forget, is the screen on or off when it's charging? |
22:26:19 | O7713 | its off it says BATTERY CHARGING |
22:26:25 | O7713 | thats all |
22:26:28 | norm_ | On the screen it says that? |
22:26:31 | O7713 | the player is off |
22:26:32 | O7713 | yea |
22:26:45 | norm_ | OK, could be the power inverter for the screen that's buzzing, then |
22:26:55 | norm_ | It'd be pretty high pitched |
22:27:07 | O7713 | i need a 9 volt charger for it, right? |
22:27:19 | norm_ | It should be 9VDC |
22:28:03 | O7713 | well, it is a 9volt charger |
22:29:53 | norm_ | How many Amps? |
22:30:11 | O7713 | 600 mA |
22:30:35 | webbie | hiya |
22:30:39 | O7713 | hi |
22:31:23 | norm_ | That's the same as mine. In fact, my unit came with a King's brand charger |
22:31:32 | norm_ | I guess that's the brand they ship |
22:31:49 | * | norm_ shrugs |
22:31:53 | PsycoXul | yeah |
22:32:05 | norm_ | Maybe your power inverter is just louder than normal |
22:33:03 | O7713 | hmm, ok im gonna ignore that noise then :) |
22:33:04 | O7713 | thx |
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22:44:43 | radhard | If anybody from germany is interested in 4pin 3.5mm plugs for remote experimenting: I know where to get them for an affordable price! |
22:53:52 | * | Zagor is back |
22:54:26 | Zagor | williams: did you have a question? |
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23:01:54 | Zagor | guess not :) |
23:02:24 | Zagor | elinenbe: yeah, kjell is working on the player simulator |
23:03:55 | elinenbe | someone is back! |
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23:57:50 | langhaarrocker | Don't we have any repeat masks in button.* any more? |
23:58:00 | Zagor | nope |
23:58:22 | langhaarrocker | Does that mean every button fires repeat events? |
23:58:31 | Zagor | yup |
23:58:37 | langhaarrocker | fine |