| 00:01:52 | LinusN | hey Zagor, when and how does it truncate? |
| 00:02:00 | Zagor | on close() |
| 00:02:09 | LinusN | ok |
| 00:02:23 | Zagor | marks all remaining clusters as unused and sets new file size |
| 00:11:04 | LinusN | Zagor: shouldn't creat() have O_TRUNCATE set as well? |
| 00:12:21 | Hadaka | LinusN: it should |
| 00:12:40 | Zagor | oh, my mistake |
| 00:13:46 | LinusN | Zagor: i'm a little curious about the close() code |
| 00:14:04 | Zagor | ok? |
| 00:14:14 | LinusN | is file->trunc a bool? |
| 00:14:30 | LinusN | when is it set? |
| 00:14:48 | Zagor | if (flags & O_TRUNC) |
| 00:14:48 | Zagor | file->trunc = true; |
| 00:14:54 | Zagor | in open() |
| 00:15:15 | LinusN | it seems like it doesn't flush the sector cache if ftruncate(9 fails |
| 00:15:24 | LinusN | and it will, if the file has grown |
| 00:15:37 | LinusN | or am i wrong here? |
| 00:15:43 | LinusN | i am wrong... |
| 00:15:50 | Zagor | why would it fail just because the file has grown? |
| 00:15:58 | LinusN | because i am silly |
| 00:16:09 | Zagor | oh :-) |
| 00:18:11 | Zagor | step #1 in long filenames committed |
| 00:18:20 | LinusN | k00l |
| 00:18:23 | Zagor | the rest hopefully goes in tomorrow |
| 00:19:54 | Bagder | 25% of my spam this month use 'iframe' somewhere in the mail body :-) |
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| 00:24:30 | LinusN | Zagor: i have found an error case we should trap |
| 00:24:36 | Zagor | ok? |
| 00:24:46 | LinusN | fat.c:435 |
| 00:25:38 | LinusN | doesn't look quite correct to me |
| 00:26:16 | Zagor | uh, is that in the old code? I just changed 250+ lines in fat.c... |
| 00:26:22 | LinusN | oh |
| 00:26:36 | LinusN | in cache_fat_sector |
| 00:26:41 | LinusN | /* Load the sector if it is not cached */ |
| 00:26:41 | LinusN | if(!fce->inuse) |
| 00:27:38 | Zagor | hmm |
| 00:27:57 | LinusN | or am i just tired? |
| 00:28:17 | Zagor | i don't know. i am too :-) |
| 00:28:28 | LinusN | look ok, actually |
| 00:28:46 | Zagor | yes, i think so to |
| 00:29:01 | Zagor | if it's the right sector number, and it's in use, we should just return the pointer |
| 00:29:18 | LinusN | yup |
| 00:31:07 | Bagder | night |
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| 00:32:55 | LinusN | Zagor: what do the top 4 bits contain in a FAT entry? |
| 00:33:05 | Zagor | nothing |
| 00:33:15 | LinusN | sure? |
| 00:34:12 | Zagor | yeah. apparently they are reserved. the only thing I know is you are never allowed to change them. |
| 00:35:11 | LinusN | well, i have to go to bed now, cu tomorrow |
| 00:35:26 | Zagor | night |
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| 00:42:22 | Zagor | night all |
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| 08:24:38 | bazzzzzzzzzzzz | hey guys, i am running rockbox 1.4 on my recorder20, I cant find how to create playlist ON the player, (which can be done with the original firmware) any ideas? :) |
| 08:28:50 | bazzzzzzzzzzzz | hello? |
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| 09:00:28 | dwihno | Good morning on YOU, Zagor! :) |
| 09:00:33 | Zagor | morning |
| 09:00:40 | dwihno | Is it a good morning or is it bad? |
| 09:01:14 | Zagor | wet :-) |
| 09:02:02 | dwihno | Spare me the details |
| 09:02:56 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:03:07 | dwihno | My new shoes rock! |
| 09:03:35 | Zagor | haha |
| 09:04:19 | dwihno | Pretty inexpensive too! |
| 09:05:13 | dwihno | What I want: |
| 09:05:17 | dwihno | SSH daemon for win32 |
| 09:05:21 | dwihno | smbd for win32 |
| 09:05:22 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:05:35 | Zagor | smbd? |
| 09:05:37 | adi|home | zagor.. how well do you know sql? |
| 09:05:50 | dwihno | Zagor: samba |
| 09:05:52 | Zagor | adi|home: uh, i did some long time ago :-) |
| 09:05:57 | adi|home | lol |
| 09:06:01 | adi|home | maybe you know |
| 09:06:03 | dwihno | select * from adi where blabla>0 order by bubu; |
| 09:06:09 | adi|home | hehehe |
| 09:06:20 | Zagor | dwihno: yeah, but smb is a windows protocol. why would you want samba on windows? |
| 09:06:24 | adi|home | im looking for a way to combine 2 cols into one output |
| 09:06:33 | adi|home | ie: firstName lastName |
| 09:06:36 | adi|home | being 2 cols |
| 09:06:49 | adi|home | giving me "Adi Talkstomuch" |
| 09:06:53 | adi|home | as a single result... |
| 09:06:54 | adi|home | ideas?> |
| 09:07:10 | Zagor | sounds doable. but I don't have the answer in my head. |
| 09:07:13 | dwihno | Zagor: I don't like the NT way to do it! :( No good logging facility either! |
| 09:07:25 | Zagor | dwihno: so why are you running nt? |
| 09:07:31 | dwihno | Zagor: Because' I wanna' :) |
| 09:07:37 | dwihno | adi|home: combine? :) |
| 09:07:44 | adi|home | hmm.. let me check |
| 09:08:03 | dwihno | select firstname, lastname from yourtable; |
| 09:09:10 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:09:10 | * | dwihno does not really get what you're trying to do, but I still can try to help :) |
| 09:10:16 | adi|home | okay... imagine a 'personnel' table |
| 09:10:24 | adi|home | primary key, firstname, lastname, emt# |
| 09:10:27 | adi|home | 4 fields |
| 09:10:55 | adi|home | i want to be able to give a table dump of "LastName, Firstname" "Emt#" |
| 09:11:02 | adi|home | so instead of 3 cols |
| 09:11:03 | adi|home | i get 2 |
| 09:11:15 | adi|home | ie: "Hak, Robert" and "302616" |
| 09:11:34 | adi|home | that make more sense? |
| 09:12:01 | adi|home | i mean, I can do: "select LastName, FirstName, EmtNumber from Personnel" |
| 09:12:06 | adi|home | but thats not what i want |
| 09:12:36 | dwihno | I don't get what you're trying to accomplish :) |
| 09:12:46 | adi|home | damn you .. just read my mind |
| 09:13:01 | adi|home | okay.. imagine a spreadsheet |
| 09:13:03 | adi|home | 3 cols |
| 09:13:07 | adi|home | 1: firstname |
| 09:13:10 | adi|home | 2: lastname |
| 09:13:14 | adi|home | 3: id |
| 09:13:51 | adi|home | but what you want to 'display' is 2 fields looking like: "Hak, Robert" "302616" |
| 09:14:03 | dwihno | two separate selects |
| 09:14:26 | adi|home | no... |
| 09:14:27 | Zagor | adi|home: don't you run the query from perl, php or something which can combine the results for you? |
| 09:14:35 | adi|home | nope |
| 09:14:44 | adi|home | ms access |
| 09:14:47 | adi|home | not my fault |
| 09:14:52 | adi|home | blame my ambulance corp |
| 09:14:54 | dwihno | Messy Access :) |
| 09:15:08 | Zagor | nnnnnghh |
| 09:15:15 | * | dwihno uses MS Access for a test thingy, simple, but slow |
| 09:15:20 | adi|home | nods |
| 09:15:41 | adi|home | right now a crew mate keeps records of who has what equipement/ids/etc in 6 diff 'tables' |
| 09:15:52 | adi|home | with data duplicated _all_ over the place |
| 09:15:57 | dwihno | yay :) |
| 09:16:00 | adi|home | trying to lay out an easier way for him to do it |
| 09:16:09 | adi|home | shrugs |
| 09:16:15 | adi|home | off to watch '3rd watch' |
| 09:16:19 | adi|home | be back in 45 mins :) |
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| 09:40:37 | dwihno | erhgm, anyone knows how to match 2+ spaces with a regexp? :) |
| 09:41:05 | Schnueff | * |
| 09:41:22 | Bagder | ( )+ |
| 09:41:29 | Bagder | uh, no |
| 09:41:43 | dwihno | + is the repeater thingy? |
| 09:41:49 | Schnueff | " *" should work |
| 09:41:50 | Bagder | + is one or more of the former one |
| 09:41:53 | Schnueff | for most kind of regexpes |
| 09:41:58 | Bagder | Schnueff's should work |
| 09:42:18 | dwihno | I tried it |
| 09:42:22 | dwihno | byt why 3 spaces? |
| 09:42:29 | Bagder | * is none or more |
| 09:42:33 | Schnueff | the third can occur 0 or more times |
| 09:42:50 | Zagor | so " +" should be the same? |
| 09:42:55 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:42:57 | Schnueff | yes |
| 09:43:08 | Schnueff | but in a shell it's better with * |
| 09:43:08 | Schnueff | :) |
| 09:43:14 | Zagor | :) |
| 09:43:16 | Bagder | " +" is also faster |
| 09:43:31 | Schnueff | give me measures:) |
| 09:43:46 | Schnueff | yeah probably, but who cares |
| 09:43:50 | Bagder | I'll do that as soon as I don't have anything better to do ;-) |
| 09:43:54 | Schnueff | heh |
| 09:43:57 | Bagder | that'll be in the year 2017 |
| 09:44:40 | Schnueff | probably perl optimizes * to + anyway for example:) |
| 09:44:46 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:44:53 | dwihno | " +" does not work for me |
| 09:45:06 | Schnueff | dwihno: where do u use it? |
| 09:45:06 | dwihno | pattern not found |
| 09:45:10 | dwihno | Schnueff: in vim :) |
| 09:45:14 | Schnueff | \+ then |
| 09:45:17 | dwihno | ah |
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| 09:45:22 | dwihno | aaaaah |
| 09:45:31 | dwihno | Sometimes it good to think too! |
| 09:45:34 | dwihno | + is the repeater then? |
| 09:45:35 | Schnueff | * is unbackslashed, + is backlashed in vim |
| 09:45:42 | dwihno | what's the diff between * and + ? |
| 09:45:44 | Schnueff | + 1 or more time |
| 09:45:48 | Schnueff | * 0 or more |
| 09:45:49 | dwihno | mkay |
| 09:56:43 | dwihno | aaaah |
| 09:56:47 | dwihno | me understand |
| 09:56:54 | Bagder | hey |
| 09:56:59 | Bagder | that's something! |
| 09:56:59 | dwihno | That's why I had to have three spaces prior to * |
| 09:57:00 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 09:57:17 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 09:57:37 | Topic | "dwihno admits to having understood http://rockbox.haxx.se/TODO" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 09:58:17 | * | dwihno sets mode +><))))8> Bagder |
| 09:58:17 | Zagor | Bagder: string order is still important in the .lang files, right? |
| 09:58:28 | Bagder | Zagor: only in the english one |
| 09:58:33 | Zagor | Bagder: ah, ok |
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| 10:00:41 | Zagor | heard from kjell or matsl lately? the player sim is working, but just barely... |
| 10:01:07 | Bagder | nope, no info from there lately |
| 10:01:39 | Zagor | wrapping a menu "backwards" makes it go bezerk, for instance |
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| 10:01:51 | bobTHC | hi all!!! |
| 10:02:59 | Zagor | hi bobTHC! |
| 10:03:11 | bobTHC | updated francais.lang commited |
| 10:03:54 | bobTHC | how are u? |
| 10:04:19 | Zagor | good. toiling away with the fat code, as usual :-) |
| 10:04:19 | * | Bagder is gonna make his Qt/E use the touchscreen as input device |
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| 11:22:26 | henryishere | 'ello |
| 11:23:11 | henryishere | oh; quick thing; is the fm version of the recorder supported too? it looks identical screen and buttons and OS |
| 11:23:23 | henryishere | i saw one at radio shack today |
| 11:23:34 | henryishere | i diddt realize such a thing existed actually |
| 11:23:38 | Bagder | it doesn't load the firmware the same way |
| 11:23:46 | henryishere | ahh |
| 11:23:52 | henryishere | if it did; then it would |
| 11:23:56 | henryishere | hardware-wise |
| 11:23:58 | Bagder | we don't know |
| 11:24:03 | henryishere | aight |
| 11:24:10 | henryishere | well it looks a lil nicer that's all |
| 11:24:32 | Bagder | it looks like very similar to the multimedia |
| 11:24:36 | henryishere | yea |
| 11:24:44 | henryishere | but w/ a readable screen |
| 11:24:54 | henryishere | i hear the multimedia is liek a joke of a screen |
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| 13:22:17 | Bagder | wc `find apps firmware uisimulator tools gdb -name "*.[ch]"` |
| 13:22:22 | Bagder | 67104 227156 1855390 total |
| 13:24:20 | Zagor | 67 kloc. we're chasing win2k! :-) |
| 13:24:33 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 14:17:23 | Zagor | has anyone tried the chip8 patch yet? |
| 14:17:32 | Bagder | nope |
| 14:18:04 | Zagor | it seems like a prime .rock candidate :-) |
| 14:18:15 | * | Bagder nods |
| 14:27:18 | dwihno | Kan man på något sätt veta om ett e-mail lästs? |
| 14:27:23 | Bagder | nej |
| 14:27:37 | Bagder | well you can, if the person replies to it ;-) |
| 14:27:40 | dwihno | Inte ens kräva en returned-flagga typ? :) |
| 14:27:46 | dwihno | sorry for spiking svenskish :) |
| 14:28:04 | Bagder | there's no standard for that kind of receit |
| 14:29:53 | dwihno | Thank you for your kind answer :) |
| 14:32:14 | kargatron | how many 'active' developers are working on rockbox recently? just the (standard) 4? ( Zagor, Bagder, linus, adi|home?) |
| 14:32:42 | Zagor | kjell and matsl are working on the player simulator |
| 14:32:47 | kargatron | ah |
| 14:33:02 | Zagor | gary is meditating on simplifying the file code |
| 14:33:27 | Zagor | that's all I think. |
| 14:33:43 | kargatron | greg still pursuing fat code simplicfication? |
| 14:36:06 | dwihno | Bagder: how about using the "ms outlook" feature? is it some non-standard mumbojumbo 1x2? |
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| 14:36:27 | Bagder | dwihno: that'll work if an outlook person reads it |
| 14:37:33 | dwihno | Bagder: mkay... do you know if it's some kind of extra header added by outlook or such? |
| 14:37:42 | Bagder | yes it is |
| 14:38:07 | dwihno | So different software _CAN_ support it them... :) |
| 14:38:13 | dwihno | (well, of course they can, stupid me) |
| 14:38:26 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:41:35 | * | Bagder commits >40MB of files into a CVS repo, that makes a lot of cvs-commit mails ;-) |
| 14:41:44 | Schnueff | arg:) |
| 14:42:07 | Zagor | whoa |
| 14:43:29 | Bagder | it takes a while ;-) |
| 14:44:01 | Bagder | crappy 700kilobit upload rate |
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| 16:21:14 | dwihno | vad är northwood för ngt? |
| 16:21:18 | dwihno | uups |
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| 17:07:07 | bryanhg | http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs -> d2go account disabled please advise |
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| 17:51:45 | kosh | hey there.. any undocumented features found? ;0 |
| 17:54:02 | Schnueff | hm? |
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| 18:09:54 | bryanhg | http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs -> d2go account disabled please advise (link to win32 simulator) |
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| 20:14:35 | kosh | yo zagor |
| 20:14:48 | Zagor | hi |
| 20:15:38 | kosh | I just did a full MD stereo qual7 48KHz. exept for the file being 32KHz instead of 48 it went well |
| 20:16:14 | kosh | However after tat a 2nd MD caused another timeout panic.. |
| 20:16:16 | Zagor | nice! |
| 20:16:35 | Zagor | not so nice :-) |
| 20:16:37 | Schnueff | heh |
| 20:16:46 | kosh | Could it be rockbox chokes on a large existing RECORD.MP3 |
| 20:17:02 | Zagor | i don't think so |
| 20:17:59 | kosh | do you delete the previous file or just open a new one |
| 20:18:55 | Zagor | we overwrite the old |
| 20:19:07 | kosh | funny thing is if I rename the file in windows I also get a panic, this time the reserved FAT one |
| 20:20:19 | kosh | If it's a short file it works, larger files always make the archos panic.. The archos FW always asks whether you want to delete an existing file befor continuing.. |
| 20:20:22 | Zagor | sounds like windows does something my code isn't prepared for |
| 20:20:48 | Zagor | i should install win95 in vmware so I can test :-) |
| 20:20:55 | kosh | yeah.. ;) |
| 20:22:04 | kosh | hmm weird.. I will record another bit and then run discdoctor.. see if that spots anything.. delete the file and run discdoctor again.. |
| 20:23:04 | Zagor | you don't have linux anywhere, right? |
| 20:23:56 | kosh | I did, but gave up on it.. I am not a programmer and after spending three days tring to get my Hollywood plus card working I gave up |
| 20:24:44 | Zagor | what's that? |
| 20:24:54 | kosh | It's still just too much hassle for us 'everyday' users.. |
| 20:25:30 | Zagor | i don't think it is, if someone installs it for you. but anyway... |
| 20:25:45 | Zagor | gotta go grab some food. back in a few minutes... |
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| 20:26:05 | Schnueff | be humane |
| 20:26:12 | kosh | It's a hardware mpeg decoder.. there is a driver, but when tring to compile Xine I first needed this, then that plus a specifix version of soandso of which I had an older version which I could not get to update.. |
| 20:29:29 | kosh | I do not mind poking around with stuff.. We did it all the time back in the C64 days.. I can install Linux just fine but it's just you have to go all over the net to get all the latest drivers. |
| 20:31:26 | kosh | And when an author af a new program or drive does not use the same distro you are in trouble a lot of the time.. But we're drifting off topic her ;) |
| 20:32:17 | PsycoXul | pff |
| 20:32:28 | PsycoXul | the vast majority of stuff is standard between distros |
| 20:32:35 | PsycoXul | especialy when it comes to kernel-related things |
| 20:32:57 | PsycoXul | try linux-from-scratch, thats fun :p |
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| 20:33:49 | kosh | That might be true.. But as soon as you start asking Qs most people strat 'but you should not use distro X.. try Y much better!' and I get an instant headache.. |
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| 20:34:32 | PsycoXul | and thats why i said "Fuck distos" |
| 20:34:51 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 20:37:16 | kosh | Well I still do not like windowz.. but hey stuff works.. If I want toplay I go back to my Amiga3000 :0 |
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| 21:21:57 | | Nick Zagor|food is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:32:05 | kosh | Enjoyed your food..:) |
| 21:32:20 | Zagor | food is good |
| 21:33:30 | kosh | Yup.. just ate a full plate of 'Hutspot', a dutch winterdish.. mashed potatos, carrots, unions, spices, beef and a LOT of gravey.. yum!! |
| 21:33:42 | Zagor | :-) |
| 21:34:15 | PsycoXul | sounds just like a crockpot meal my mom makes |
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| 21:35:00 | kosh | Well it's Dutch. but not really ..;) as always we tend to grab all good things and make it our own.. :) |
| 21:36:23 | kosh | Been on the recording track again.. and got some more problems.. like doing a couple of recordings in a row I end up with the dreaded Updating reserved FAT entry 0 panic.. avertime after 4-5 runs.. |
| 21:36:39 | Zagor | ok |
| 21:38:03 | kosh | I also found the timeout problem strangly appears when you record a 8-10 minute track, hook the archos to the PC and release it again.. |
| 21:38:27 | Zagor | apparently the PC changes something that we are not prepared for |
| 21:38:53 | Zagor | do you know any software for windows which can take a raw image of the first few megs of a drive? |
| 21:39:04 | Zagor | like 'dd' for unix |
| 21:39:06 | kosh | It seems tha way yes, but when you do this on a short recording (2-3 minutes) it does not panic.. |
| 21:39:40 | kosh | You want the MBR ? |
| 21:40:21 | Zagor | i want the MBR, the fat and the root dir |
| 21:40:33 | Zagor | so the first few megs of the disk |
| 21:41:02 | kosh | ok.. I know there's a tool for that.. I'll look around and get back to you when I have it.. |
| 21:41:10 | Zagor | great |
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| 21:53:30 | Zagor | hi linus |
| 21:55:04 | kosh | Well a quick survey did not turn up anything.. but if and when I find anything I will let you know.. |
| 21:55:30 | Zagor | good |
| 21:55:39 | LinusN | hi all |
| 21:55:46 | LinusN | home at last |
| 21:55:46 | kosh | I am recording a looong piece now and when it's done I will start a 2nd recording without going to windows.. just to see what happens.. |
| 21:55:50 | kosh | :) |
| 21:56:10 | LinusN | left the hospital this morning |
| 21:56:30 | kosh | I'll be out for a beer.. be back in an hour or so.. |
| 21:56:35 | Zagor | bag full of fun pills :-) |
| 21:56:42 | Zagor | kosh: have fun |
| 21:56:43 | LinusN | Zagor: you bet |
| 21:56:54 | LinusN | morphine and other nice stuff |
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| 22:04:09 | LinusN | Zagor: any news about the FAT? |
| 22:04:49 | Zagor | nope |
| 22:04:59 | Zagor | any news about the recording? :-) |
| 22:06:09 | LinusN | hehe, no |
| 22:06:16 | LinusN | i was thinking |
| 22:06:42 | LinusN | how does the ?ECORD.MP3 entry look like? |
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| 22:08:15 | Zagor | what do you mean? |
| 22:11:10 | LinusN | i mean, is the cluster chain still there? |
| 22:12:45 | Zagor | beats me. he's on windows, so he can't send me the data |
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| 22:52:50 | kosh | hmm |
| 22:54:31 | kosh | nothing I can find to get the MBR, FAT and root dir of te drive.. I have a tool which displays them, but cannot write them.. I assume you guys do not have these problems.. |
| 22:54:54 | kosh | I am almost ready to install Linux just to test this... :) |
| 22:54:56 | Zagor | no :-) |
| 22:55:02 | LinusN | no, we use real operatinh systems :-) |
| 22:57:53 | kosh | yeah.. yeah.. To be honest I liked Linux.. made me feel like I was sorta back with my Amiga so I blew the dust of my A3000, which still worked ..:) But seriously. and off topic.. On of the main things why I do not use Linux is that I could not find a good soundeditor like SoundForge and I believe Linux still does not suport the Creative LiveDrive ports.. |
| 22:58:40 | PsycoXul | i think also supports the livedrive ports, but i'm not sure cause i don't have one |
| 22:58:44 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 22:58:45 | PsycoXul | s/also/alsa/ |
| 22:58:48 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:58:53 | Jet8810 | can somebody tell me what my IP is please? not sure if ipconfig is workinmg |
| 22:58:59 | PsycoXul | and you're right, there's no good sound editor |
| 22:59:10 | PsycoXul | there's a few that're getting ok, but nothing as robust or stable as soundforge |
| 22:59:19 | LinusN | kosh: have you tried this? http://www.sf-soft.de/winhex/index-m.html |
| 22:59:57 | kosh | Maybe I should install linux and vmware back to windows but what performance will I get from soundforge through WMware and how good is it anyway? |
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| 23:00:08 | LinusN | kosh: you can dual boot |
| 23:00:13 | Jet8810 | can somebody tell me what my IP is please? not sure if ipconfig is workinmg |
| 23:00:15 | bryanhg | http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/autocvs -> d2go account disabled please advise (link to win32 simulator) |
| 23:00:23 | Zagor | Jet8810: adsl-153-73-72.bct.bellsouth.net has address 68.153.73.72 |
| 23:00:33 | Jet8810 | thanks |
| 23:00:39 | kosh | I HATE dualboot.. Maybe I am strange in that but I refuse to have to reboot just because I need to run X |
| 23:00:43 | kosh | or Y |
| 23:00:45 | bryanhg | jet - http://whatismyipaddress.com works too |
| 23:00:53 | Zagor | bryanhg: seems edx has closed his web page |
| 23:01:16 | bryanhg | where can i get win32 simulator... or do i need to compile? |
| 23:01:22 | Zagor | kosh: i never reboot. I always run X :-) |
| 23:01:36 | Zagor | bryanhg: the win32 simulators don't work. nobody is updating them. |
| 23:01:45 | kosh | ;) yeah.. yeah.. I know.. |
| 23:01:47 | bryanhg | okay |
| 23:02:08 | bryanhg | i joined the ABJMMFIRMWARE group on yahoo |
| 23:02:15 | bryanhg | seems they have archos cooperation |
| 23:02:35 | Zagor | bryanhg: not yet |
| 23:03:17 | bryanhg | they arent NOT cooperating though... they are in discussion... they have cooperation if they use archos |
| 23:03:19 | bryanhg | terms |
| 23:03:48 | Zagor | bryanhg: we don't know that yet. the guy from Archos hasn't responded yet. |
| 23:04:41 | Zagor | i'm on that list |
| 23:05:32 | bryanhg | oh ok, i missed the part where he has to take it a step further |
| 23:05:59 | bryanhg | my bad |
| 23:06:01 | kosh | PsycoXul: I need sourceforge.. I make money with it.. maybe it hte near future I will just add (yet another) PC to my network and run linux on that.. phew.. |
| 23:06:25 | bryanhg | zagor - u have a jbmm? |
| 23:06:52 | Zagor | no |
| 23:06:56 | bryanhg | i have an order in for 2 through scott −− having some paypal issues though |
| 23:06:57 | kosh | I will have my widowz machine, my video player, my Amiga3000 and a linux box should be fun :) |
| 23:07:07 | Zagor | i might get one if we get some help from archos |
| 23:07:40 | bryanhg | how feasible is a more graphical interface... provided the player can handle it |
| 23:08:08 | Zagor | we know very little about the MM so far |
| 23:08:28 | bryanhg | no info on a graphics processor if it has one? |
| 23:08:58 | | Quit _seb_ ("mir Schnuppe was meine Kritiker sag'n...") |
| 23:09:03 | Zagor | no info that I've seen |
| 23:09:11 | kosh | Why not make a basic interpreter on rockboX..;) |
| 23:09:28 | bryanhg | kosh - what would that accomplish |
| 23:09:40 | kosh | fun and games.. mind the ;) |
| 23:09:47 | bryanhg | you can already make a patch |
| 23:10:26 | bryanhg | would it be possible to invert the display on the recorder? that would be cool :-) |
| 23:10:30 | Zagor | bryanhg: how is the screen on the MM? someone said it was unsharp? |
| 23:10:41 | bryanhg | i dont have it yet... waiting patiently |
| 23:10:43 | Zagor | bryanhg: yeah, it's possible |
| 23:10:46 | Zagor | ok |
| 23:10:53 | bryanhg | $379 is an amazing price |
| 23:11:14 | bryanhg | it comes with photo modules and USB 2.0 cables free shipping included |
| 23:12:07 | bryanhg | mine was part of a new shipment that supposedly addresses some of the battery concerns... though that is hearsay and not confirmed |
| 23:12:10 | kosh | it's 350 euro here |
| 23:12:22 | bryanhg | order from scott... hotmp3gear.com |
| 23:12:40 | bryanhg | he can write warentee replacement and you have no customs charges |
| 23:12:52 | bryanhg | just a little bit of shipping not much |
| 23:13:07 | Zagor | bryanhg: we are in europe :-) |
| 23:13:11 | bryanhg | i know |
| 23:13:14 | kosh | the recorder 20 is now at 335 euros |
| 23:13:29 | kosh | Zagor: check gadgetdelivery.nl |
| 23:13:40 | bryanhg | what is euro -> dollar conversion? |
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| 23:14:00 | kargatron | 1:1 effectively |
| 23:14:06 | kosh | sorry.. wrong button ;) |
| 23:14:14 | Zagor | 100 USD (United States Dollar) = 99.404 EUR (European Currency Units Euro) |
| 23:14:15 | kargatron | maybe 1:.98 |
| 23:14:21 | kargatron | .994 then :) |
| 23:14:34 | Zagor | http://www.contactor.se/~dast/currency/ |
| 23:14:55 | bryanhg | :-) |
| 23:14:57 | kosh | Zagor : I still dunno where you guys are.. |
| 23:15:03 | bryanhg | <−− US |
| 23:15:03 | Zagor | kosh: sweden |
| 23:15:15 | kosh | OK.. |
| 23:16:15 | bryanhg | $8 shipping outside of USA i believe |
| 23:17:09 | kosh | Well since you are EU.. you can order from NL easy.. |
| 23:17:29 | bryanhg | so you would get JBMM, photo modules, USB 2.0 for $388 -> 386 euro |
| 23:18:02 | Zagor | bryanhg: shipping is not the problem. horrible custom charges and VAT is the problem. |
| 23:18:45 | kosh | Zagor: as said ordering from NL.. 350 euro incl. tax ex shipping.. |
| 23:19:01 | Zagor | yeah, well I can order from sweden too. thanks anyway :-) |
| 23:27:29 | Zagor | kosh: try the new bleeding edge build |
| 23:28:21 | kosh | I will |
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| 23:33:27 | kosh | Update to latest BEB.. Just finished 80 minute recording.. quit rec-update BEB-record .. sofar OK.. in a minute or 10 I will delete the recorded file in windows and record again.. fingers crossed..;) |
| 23:33:53 | Zagor | good |
| 23:37:54 | bryanhg | Zagor - there is a way around the VAT / custom charges |
| 23:38:22 | bryanhg | you can write replacement part "$0.00 Value" and there won't be any charges |
| 23:38:35 | bryanhg | I have seen it done - it works |
| 23:40:21 | Zagor | yeah |
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| 23:46:11 | kosh | it ppears to be fixed.. |
| 23:46:28 | Zagor | nice! |
| 23:46:46 | kosh | It seems I can bin the archos formware soon..yeah! |
| 23:47:32 | kosh | linus: is it correct recording is at 32KHz nomatter what the setting (since we are in testphase) |
| 23:50:29 | kosh | Zagor: next one the timeout.. it popsup now instead of the FAT panic (coming from a 10 minute recording) |
| 23:50:45 | Zagor | kosh: that is in linus code |
| 23:51:00 | kosh | ok.. and linus is busy :) |
| 23:51:22 | Zagor | it seems so |
| 23:54:29 | LinusN | yes i am |
| 23:54:42 | LinusN | and i have been chasing the timeout bug for a long time |
| 23:55:05 | LinusN | and 32kHz regardless of freq. setting is a bug to |
| 23:55:07 | LinusN | too |
| 23:55:43 | kosh | ok.. but with the FAt bug gone I will start a new series of tests to see what happens.. I will post to teh list as soon as I have something to share.. |
| 23:55:44 | Zagor | is the file closed before you panic? if not, that might be a good idea to minimise disk corruption |
| 23:55:51 | LinusN | i would appreciate if someone could find a definite way of provoking the timeout |
| 23:56:01 | LinusN | Zagor: it is closed |
| 23:56:37 | Zagor | ok |
| 23:57:01 | LinusN | fyi, the timeout is because the MAS seems to stop responding to DMA transfer requests |
| 23:57:12 | LinusN | see dma_tick() |
| 23:58:30 | LinusN | it *could* be about updating PORTA in an interrupt |
| 23:58:50 | kosh | I'm off doing stuff.. be back later.. |
| 23:58:51 | LinusN | when a thread is updating it at the same time |
| 23:58:56 | LinusN | cu kosh |
| 23:58:59 | | Part kosh |
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