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00:48:47 | sweety | anyone alive here? |
00:53:51 | LinusN | i'm here |
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01:09:47 | sweety | Anyone who can tell me why my ".rockbox" folder doesn't show among the other folders on my Archos Rec20? |
01:10:11 | LinusN | you mean when connected to a computer? |
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01:10:45 | sweety | No, I mean when NOT connected to my computer, when browsing using my archos |
01:10:53 | LinusN | ok, there is a file filter |
01:11:05 | LinusN | press F2 |
01:11:29 | LinusN | then Down will change the filter |
01:12:00 | [keno] | Hi guys |
01:12:07 | LinusN | hi |
01:12:10 | sweety | Ah, thanks, I will try that! |
01:12:19 | LinusN | great |
01:12:26 | [keno] | I just got the box from amazon containing my brand new AJB recorder 20! :) |
01:12:34 | sweety | By the way, is there any |
01:12:45 | [keno] | waited like a month for it, and now it's here. |
01:12:46 | sweety | ..sorry, didn't finish my sentence :) |
01:12:46 | LinusN | [keno]: congrats |
01:13:22 | [keno] | a search on google eventually pointed me to the rockbox site and I must that the entire project is pretty *mingboggling* |
01:13:42 | LinusN | hehe |
01:14:45 | * | [keno] has got a few questions, but is going through the FAQ again before asking, to avoid being annoying. |
01:15:17 | LinusN | [keno]: good move |
01:15:20 | [keno] | btw I am *SO* happy I spared that extra few bucks and got the recorder instead of the studio |
01:15:49 | LinusN | another good move |
01:25:48 | [keno] | Okay, I realise I have a LOT of catching up to do regarding this new hardware/toy I yearned for for so long. I guess my first question would have to be; generally, is there any tradeoff whatsoever in using rockbox 1.4 instead of firmware 1.28 which I got with my recorder (which I can't find on archos' firmware revision history page btw)? −− considering functionality (anything at all archos' 1.28 can do which rockbox 1.4 can't?), skips/gaps protection and o |
01:26:50 | LinusN | first of all, 1.27d is the same as 1.28 |
01:27:14 | LinusN | the obvious tradeoff is that Rockbox 1.4 can't record |
01:27:43 | LinusN | the queue functionality is not implemented in rockbox yet |
01:29:03 | sweety | will the Queue function be implemented soon? I use it very often and the lack of that function is the only reason for me NOT to use rockbox |
01:29:45 | [keno] | hrrm.. why do archos label identical firmwares differently anyways? nevermind.. well, I guess recording would be relatively rare in comparison to listening, so whenever I want to record, I can always boot into 1.28 using "rolo" right? |
01:29:59 | LinusN | i don't think anybody is working on it at the moment |
01:30:34 | LinusN | [keno]: or use the latest daily build |
01:30:47 | LinusN | sweety: i don't think anybody is working on it at the moment |
01:31:34 | sweety | that's too bad :( I'm not a programmer, but it doesn't sound like it should be a too complicated function to program |
01:31:44 | LinusN | sweety: actually, it is |
01:32:00 | LinusN | there are a lot of special cases |
01:32:00 | sweety | ah.. I see |
01:32:11 | LinusN | like the resume functionality |
01:32:36 | LinusN | sweety: a question: how do you use the queue function? |
01:32:45 | [keno] | LinusN how would that help? |
01:33:11 | LinusN | [keno]: i have written the recording drivers for rockbox |
01:33:24 | LinusN | the latest daily build has recording implemented |
01:33:30 | LinusN | 1.4 doesn't |
01:33:36 | [keno] | and btw, as a former TDK MOJO owner (CD based MP3 player) I think playlists are quite enough.. I don't need queue function (having said that, I haven't used the jukebox extensively yet) |
01:34:01 | LinusN | i like the queue function |
01:34:04 | [keno] | how long do you beleive it will take for recording to be "finalized" to an official build? |
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01:34:56 | LinusN | [keno]: not that long |
01:35:04 | LinusN | we are still debugging it |
01:35:20 | mrsubway | I have a question about the batteries. Do they charge differently with Rockbox? |
01:35:39 | LinusN | mrsubway: yes |
01:35:42 | [keno] | hrrm: Recorder: The current release of 1.2 is much worse than the Archos charger, it tends to stop charging much too early and leave the batteries half empty. |
01:35:52 | [keno] | same is true for 1.4 ? |
01:36:11 | LinusN | 1.4 has about the same algorithm |
01:36:21 | mrsubway | Well, the charger never stopped! It kept saying "charging" for like a day! |
01:36:35 | LinusN | mrsubway: you mean the archos charger |
01:36:39 | [keno] | mrsubway: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/battery-faq.html |
01:36:58 | mrsubway | But, if I plug the charger in WITHOUT turning on the unit, it will use the archos charger, right? |
01:37:05 | sweety | LinusN: Well, the queue-function is great if you listen to music but don't have the archos near you. Then you can choose the next song to listen to, any time while the current one is playing.. If not using queue you have to be there and change exactly when the previous song ends, if you are like me and hate to interrupt in the middle of songs :) It is also easier than using the playlist in many ways. |
01:37:05 | [keno] | I had to make my own charger btw.. I don't have a 220->120v adapter |
01:37:14 | [keno] | (don't live in the states) |
01:37:58 | LinusN | [keno]: we are discussing improvements to the charging algorithm |
01:38:24 | mrsubway | How can I use the Archos charger with rockbox, or I can't? |
01:38:41 | LinusN | mrsubway: rockbox charges only when rockbox is running |
01:38:57 | [keno] | mrsubway I think you can boot to archos' firmware with "rolo" |
01:38:57 | mrsubway | OH! DUH! I didn't know that. Sorry. :( |
01:39:08 | LinusN | if you insert the charger when the unit is off, then the original firmware is doing the charging |
01:39:34 | [keno] | cause it can't be replaced since it's ROM based right? |
01:39:47 | mrsubway | It was the Archos charger that never displayed "done", then. It did charge the batteries, but never told me it was finished. Using firmware 1.28 on the ROM. |
01:39:50 | LinusN | there have been reports that charging f**cks up when ROLO:ing to the Archos FW |
01:40:14 | LinusN | mrsubway: my archos says "charged" after a while |
01:40:28 | mrsubway | I don't remember if I ROLOed or not. From now on, I'll just plug it in with the unit off and use Archos to charge. |
01:40:34 | [keno] | btw, is there any chance the unit could draw power or even get charged from the USB connection? USB is self powering (up to 500mAh - just 100 shy of the mah specs for the archos) |
01:40:52 | [keno] | the way I see it, archos haven't used USB power at all! (??) |
01:41:05 | mrsubway | Rockbox IS great, though. When you guys add recording, I think Archos's firmware site will be dead! ^_^ |
01:43:45 | LinusN | [keno]: looking at the schematics, it seems to take some power from the USB, but it is not enough to spare the batteries |
01:43:45 | LinusN | mrsubway: we have added recording |
01:43:45 | LinusN | it's just not released yet |
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01:43:45 | LinusN | try a daily build (on your own risk) |
01:43:45 | mrsubway | Oh. Cool. Are you going to trash the limit so we can record at 192? |
01:43:45 | [keno] | yeah. How did archos react when they found out about the rockbox project? can you post any correspondance with them? |
01:43:45 | LinusN | mrsubway: the encoding is done in hardware, we can't do anything about the bitrate |
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01:43:45 | LinusN | [keno]: not a word from Archos |
01:43:46 | [keno] | LinusN windows reports 500mah used by the archos device, which is the maximum for a single USB port. my guess is that it doesn't really use all that.. |
01:43:46 | mrsubway | I would not be surprised if Archos made you guys an offer when all the bugs are worked out. ^_^ |
01:43:46 | [keno] | (same goes for my usb adsl modem, so I figure it's a USB host bug) |
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01:43:46 | LinusN | [keno]: no i don't think it is |
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01:44:36 | mrsubway | BTW, is there a way to delete files with Rockbox? I can't figure it out. That option doesn't seem to be there. |
01:45:01 | [keno] | LinusN you guys shoult put up a paypal account or some way for people to donate money.. ever discussed donations? I think you will get quite a few.. |
01:45:35 | kargatron | they don't care about money, and no, you cannot yet delete files |
01:45:46 | LinusN | [keno]: first of all, we're not in it for the money |
01:46:05 | LinusN | [keno]: secondly, who gets the money? |
01:46:17 | LinusN | we have lots of developers |
01:46:25 | [keno] | LinusN I know. I didn't say "commercial aspect" or "registered version".. I said donations :) |
01:46:32 | mrsubway | True software guys like these don't care about money. Thats Micro$oft'$ department. |
01:46:47 | kargatron | the point is that the donatoins wouldn't actually accomplish anything |
01:47:04 | kargatron | they wouldn't incentivize the devs to work harder |
01:47:09 | mrsubway | Do you guys actually have jobs in software? I understand if you cannot answer that. |
01:47:51 | [keno] | well, as an AJB-R newbie, anythink you guys can tell me that will save me some trboule later on? I am already replacing the lame 1500mah batt. with 1800 GP ones. other than that, and ofcourse rockbox, any useful info I should be aware of? |
01:47:53 | LinusN | mrsubway: i work as a computer consultant, in the embedded systems field |
01:48:19 | mrsubway | I'm an A+ MCP tech. |
01:48:30 | LinusN | mrsubway: and what is that? :-) |
01:48:35 | mrsubway | I wonder if the 2000MAH batteries can be found? |
01:48:56 | mrsubway | Microsoft Certified Professional in NT server and Workstation, A+ is hardware. |
01:49:02 | LinusN | oh |
01:49:04 | mrsubway | I work at City College in NYC. |
01:49:13 | kargatron | keno, just gt satisfactory earphones, and enjoy |
01:49:30 | mrsubway | Radioshack Pro 35 are good earphones. |
01:49:33 | kargatron | don't shy away from premade playlists, i suppose |
01:49:49 | kargatron | some people seem to have some weird hangup against them |
01:50:12 | mrsubway | They're uncomfortable, though. Can anyone recommend good earphones? |
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01:50:34 | LinusN | Sony EX-70 earbuds |
01:51:25 | ]keno[ | shi*t, I got disconnected. anyone said anything to me after "<[keno]> well, as an AJB-R newbie, anythink you guys ca.." |
01:51:31 | ]keno[ | ? |
01:51:59 | mrsubway | I don't know if Rockbox is causing this. I installed the USB drivers that came with my recorder and it was working fine. Now, however, XP won't detect and mount the drive. I had to uninstall the Archos USB drivers, and now XP detects it fine. |
01:52:16 | LinusN | we said to get you decent earphones, and don't be afraid of playlists |
01:52:34 | LinusN | mrsubway: rockbox has nothing to do with the USB |
01:52:51 | ]keno[ | I love playlists;) and already using the absolutely AMAZING koss porta pro (from my CDMP3 days) |
01:52:56 | LinusN | the USB is handled by hardware |
01:53:04 | ]keno[ | these headphones never cease to amaze me. |
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01:54:07 | mrsubway | HMM.. I wonder why that started. With the drivers, XP detects the unit, but won't mount the drive. It says "no drive". |
01:54:21 | LinusN | ]keno[: the Sony EX-70 rocks |
01:54:44 | nickr | koss KSC-50 |
01:55:26 | kargatron | my damn ex-70s are backordered |
01:55:50 | ]keno[ | Sony? well, I never liked sony headphones. never listened to the EX-70 though. are you sure you heard the Koss Porta Pro ??? |
01:56:15 | kargatron | the sennheiser mx500s finally on there way, and i am enjoying the sony srs-t77s (travel speakers). so it's all good. (assuming some patience) |
01:56:49 | kargatron | [keno], i don't think there's any dissing of porta pros going on |
01:57:18 | mrsubway | Are the Porta Pros really that good? I mainly want good volume and bass. Most Sony's have low volume. |
01:58:00 | ]keno[ | kargatron I'm not defending them that much, am I? :) |
01:58:28 | ]keno[ | mrsubway I was blown away when I first head them. Never thought I'd hear that kind of bass from headphones. |
01:59:10 | mrsubway | How's the volume. I'll put it this way. Would your Archos at max volume be damaging to your ears? |
01:59:28 | ]keno[ | While listening to some tracks with very subtle tunes (like Air or Faithless) I sometimes hear stuff with the koss headphones that I DON'T hear with my home stereo |
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02:00:06 | mrsubway | Reason I'm asking. I have a pair of Sony's that SUCK! I can put the Archos all the way up and it doesn't hurt my ears. |
02:00:20 | ]keno[ | I'm afraid I haven't used the archos yet! still waiting for it to charge completely (while looking for the last damn 1800 mah battery which for some reason got lost) |
02:00:49 | kargatron | not heard them, but several koss models are well-reviewed: porta pros, ksc 35, ksc 50 etc |
02:00:50 | ]keno[ | use a kitchen knife then - it does hurt your ears if used properly.. |
02:01:08 | nickr | I have ksc35s, they are really good |
02:01:12 | ]keno[ | before I got the koss ones I consulted a very good headphone reviews site |
02:01:14 | mrsubway | I don't want to hurt my ears. ^_^ I'm just asking. |
02:01:23 | ]keno[ | don't quite remember the name though :( |
02:01:23 | kargatron | if you don't mind the looksfeel, Grado sr-60 and 80s are extremely well thought of |
02:01:51 | ]keno[ | Grados were the only ones which the site recommended as much as the koss |
02:01:58 | kargatron | but for earphones, the sennheiser mx500 and sony ex-70s are the conventional wisdom |
02:01:59 | mrsubway | I'm going into the city tomorrow. Anyone know what stores might carry the porta pros? |
02:02:13 | ]keno[ | I got them from office depot |
02:02:14 | ]keno[ | OHHH |
02:02:27 | mrsubway | Office Depot. Thanks. |
02:02:37 | mrsubway | Wish I could try them in the store, though. |
02:03:06 | ]keno[ | by the way -very important question - the archos faq says not to connect the unit through a USB hub, but I'd hate to crawl all the way to the back of the box.. any word on the downside of connecting through a USB hub (linksys brand) |
02:03:55 | ]keno[ | mrsubway I think they overcharge it though. You can prolly get it for much less.. office depot. aren't known for their reasonable prices.. |
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02:09:01 | mrsubway | I can get them from amazon.com, but I really didn't want to wait for shipping. Perhaps Datavision or Compusa will have them. |
02:12:23 | mrsubway | One last question. When upgrading Rockbox, should I delete the old .rockbox foler first? |
02:12:32 | LinusN | no need |
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02:13:32 | mrsubway | And, for the daily upgrade, I just use the old .rockbox folder from 1.4? |
02:14:40 | LinusN | yup |
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02:14:58 | LinusN | you may need to upgrade the language files though |
02:15:17 | mrsubway | Would it be safe to keep rockbox 1.4 as the default, and use the Rolo to load the beta to test it? |
02:15:34 | LinusN | sure, but the settings will not be saved |
02:15:58 | mrsubway | Okay. Thanks. You guys are great. CANNOT WAIT FOR VERSION 2! |
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02:16:39 | kargatron | LinusN, any rec. oddness progress since the file upload? was gone... |
02:17:25 | LinusN | kargatron: i'd like you to try the latest bleeding edge |
02:21:07 | kargatron | ok, but 2:10am is asking a lot! :) |
02:21:51 | LinusN | hehe |
02:21:56 | LinusN | 1:10 here |
02:22:11 | kargatron | greece, got an hour on ya |
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02:25:57 | [keno] | Crap. I really need an answer to this one and I keep getting disconnected, so I apologize if someone answered this already - why does the archos FAQ says not to connect the AJB through a USB hub? will it have any negative effects if I do? |
02:27:38 | LinusN | i don't know |
02:27:57 | LinusN | i know for sure that it may be bothered by other devices on the same bus |
02:28:09 | LinusN | like scanners, modems etc |
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02:30:42 | paulheu | Hey Linus... still here ;) |
02:30:59 | LinusN | yes, a little tired |
02:31:19 | LinusN | paulheu: tried the latest bleeding edge? |
02:31:31 | paulheu | Yes.. problem's still there |
02:31:51 | LinusN | damn! |
02:32:30 | paulheu | It's weird.. , archos FW sounds fine.. RockBox has Xtra gremlins on backing vocals.. |
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02:33:01 | LinusN | paulheu: do you have time for an extra test? |
02:33:06 | paulheu | sure.. |
02:33:51 | kargatron | LinusN, just did it. sounds as bad or worse |
02:33:55 | kargatron | you want the file? |
02:34:10 | LinusN | paulheu: when you run the archos firmware, do you hear a "click" in the headphones when you switch to recording mode? |
02:34:20 | LinusN | kargatron: no need |
02:34:34 | paulheu | Not that I know,.. I will check.. |
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02:39:24 | paulheu | I hear a short mid-high click |
02:39:29 | LinusN | ok |
02:39:51 | [keno] | damn this connection |
02:39:56 | [keno] | [02:15] <[keno]> Crap. I really need an answer to this one and I keep getting disconnected, so I apologize if someone answered this already - why does the archos FAQ says not to connect the AJB through a USB hub? will it have any negative effects if I do? |
02:39:56 | [keno] | [02:17] <LinusN> i don't know |
02:39:56 | [keno] | [02:17] <LinusN> i know for sure that it may be bothered by other devices on the same bus |
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02:39:56 | [keno] | [02:17] <LinusN> like scanners, modems etc |
02:40:12 | [keno] | please finish LinusN. very sorry for this.. |
02:40:20 | kargatron | that was it |
02:40:22 | LinusN | that was it |
02:40:28 | [keno] | oh.. okay ;) |
02:41:02 | [keno] | I found the last 1800mAh GP battery! I'll charge it with the external though.. should be faster. |
02:41:09 | kargatron | stop using me as a puppet LinusN! |
02:41:21 | paulheu | Linus.. Just tried recording the same music I do on line-in through mic.. sounds OK!.. so it's definately a line-in problem |
02:43:13 | LinusN | very interesting |
02:43:27 | paulheu | Do you want the mic track? |
02:43:35 | LinusN | no need |
02:43:37 | paulheu | ok |
02:44:26 | paulheu | Linus: You are also aware the created file has no datestamp? |
02:44:42 | paulheu | I mean no creationdate |
02:44:43 | LinusN | that's Zagors department |
02:44:46 | paulheu | ok.. |
02:45:00 | LinusN | i know that he fakes the timestamps |
02:47:02 | LinusN | paulheu: does tha gain value make any difference? |
02:47:12 | kargatron | was wodnering about the timestamps |
02:47:20 | paulheu | I will try.. hang on.. |
02:48:09 | kargatron | paulheu, are you recording from a standard component in? is your lowest adjusted gain still fairly high? my tests had -3db still distoriting from a dvd player |
02:48:12 | kargatron | curious |
02:50:16 | paulheu | I always record at -3.. and would prefer to go -10 but that's not possible.. on pre equipment -3 is way to high for average level recording.. I user two 56K resistors on my liev board to attenuate the line out on the board.. |
02:50:53 | paulheu | Linus: tried +9dB.. no improvement |
02:50:57 | kargatron | LinusN, is the -3 hardware limited? |
02:51:00 | [keno] | How probable is it that using rockbox will cause the infamous HD lockup described in http://rockbox.haxx.se/lock.html ? I don't have a laptop nor a 3.5" -> 2.5" IDE adapter.. |
02:51:00 | paulheu | yes |
02:51:17 | LinusN | kargatron: yes |
02:51:43 | LinusN | [keno]: haven't seen it since the project started |
02:52:16 | kargatron | well, glad i have no use to record from components then... :) |
02:52:20 | [keno] | cool. thanks for all your help linux. I will install rockbox now, for the 1st time <G> |
02:52:34 | LinusN | [keno]: good luck |
02:52:48 | [keno] | do I really need *luck*? :) |
02:52:53 | paulheu | ;) |
02:52:59 | kargatron | we can call you linux now? |
02:53:11 | LinusN | haha |
02:53:46 | LinusN | i really have to go to bed |
02:53:53 | LinusN | cu tomorrow guys! |
02:54:00 | paulheu | Me too.. l8er |
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03:32:53 | haiphong | anybody here? |
03:34:47 | haiphong | just want to leave a message to say you guys are great and keep up the work! rockbox has made my archos worthwhile :) |
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09:17:31 | dwihno | Yay yay! |
09:22:49 | Bagder | hey |
09:22:52 | Bagder | pine with threads! |
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10:19:09 | Bagder | morning bro |
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10:20:58 | Zagor | morning |
10:24:43 | Schnueff | moin |
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10:39:05 | * | Bagder got some code sneaked into glib |
10:39:40 | Zagor | ooh |
10:39:40 | Zagor | what? |
10:39:57 | Bagder | they're importing trio for C99 snprintf() support |
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10:47:27 | Zagor | cool |
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10:47:44 | Zagor | that's a nice piece of code |
10:47:48 | MrHali | hi |
10:47:53 | Zagor | hi |
10:47:57 | Bagder | yes, its neat |
10:48:14 | MrHali | i just wanted to give you guys props for the awesome job you all are doing |
10:48:30 | Zagor | thanks! :-) |
10:48:36 | * | MrHali hearts rockbox |
10:48:50 | Bagder | :-) |
10:49:28 | MrHali | i was looking at the site, and reading thru yesterdays irc logs.. do you guys need any recording testing help? |
10:49:46 | Bagder | I believe so |
10:49:57 | MrHali | don't know if i can offer any assistance somehow |
10:50:14 | Bagder | me neither, Linus is the man in charge of that |
10:50:23 | MrHali | because i bought my recorder... as a recorder primarily |
10:51:07 | MrHali | ok, maybe i will log on later when he is on then |
10:51:17 | Bagder | please do |
10:52:13 | MrHali | just curious, do you guys know if it is technically possible to make the recorder record in CBR? possibly a future release of rockbox? or is it a limitation of the encoder chip? |
10:52:38 | Bagder | I think it only does VBR |
10:52:42 | MrHali | shitty |
10:52:58 | MrHali | oh well... thanks though |
10:54:08 | MrHali | ok.. i'll look for linus later on... take care everyone |
10:54:11 | MrHali | simma lugnt |
10:54:15 | MrHali | ;-) |
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11:48:37 | quelsaruk | hi all! |
11:49:18 | Zagor | hi |
11:50:41 | quelsaruk | no magic wand yet? ;) |
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11:57:37 | mbr | Damn router loop |
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12:39:28 | dwihno | Zagor: Me, being a bit curious, how well does the power off function work? |
12:41:51 | Zagor | idle-off, you mean? |
12:43:23 | dwihno | Yes |
12:43:32 | dwihno | I tried it in the early stages |
12:43:45 | dwihno | (when it shut down while connected via USB *ERHUMM*) ;-) |
12:43:56 | Schnueff | i have no problems with idle-off |
12:44:47 | dwihno | It's more of a protective issue |
12:44:57 | dwihno | I never turn on the unit by accident |
12:45:10 | dwihno | It has happened once or twice |
12:45:15 | Zagor | I have it on 10 minutes |
12:45:20 | Zagor | it Just Works |
12:45:40 | dwihno | :D |
12:46:05 | dwihno | Zagor: sometimes, you are so wise |
12:46:17 | dwihno | Try to find a hands-on review on the web. Don't you think a great product like this would have resulted in many reviews? |
12:46:24 | dwihno | Talking about the oddysey-thingy |
12:46:31 | Zagor | hehe |
12:46:44 | Zagor | it's true, isn't it? |
12:46:59 | dwihno | Yes |
12:47:10 | dwihno | I didn't think about it in that way until you said so :) |
12:47:26 | dwihno | Always read the review (or consult the developers of the alternative open source firmware) :) |
12:47:34 | dwihno | I read zero reviews about the archos |
12:47:35 | Zagor | hehe |
12:47:47 | Zagor | you foolishly trusted us :) |
12:47:50 | dwihno | Yes |
12:49:22 | dwihno | With rockbox, the unit owns :D |
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14:46:18 | LinusN | Bagder: any progress on the "kilobyte function"? |
14:46:40 | Bagder | I many letters do you want written, I mean maximum? is 5 good? |
14:46:43 | Bagder | how many |
14:46:49 | LinusN | 5 is ok |
14:46:56 | Bagder | ok |
14:46:58 | Bagder | gimme a minute |
14:48:58 | LinusN | kosh: you're here? |
14:51:11 | dwihno | kosh spice :) |
14:53:42 | Bagder | LinusN: you want the code by mail or shall I commit it somewhere? |
14:53:52 | LinusN | i dunno |
14:53:58 | LinusN | is there a good place to put it? |
14:54:03 | Bagder | I'll mail it then |
14:54:06 | LinusN | common? :-) |
14:54:11 | Bagder | hahaha |
14:54:20 | Zagor | the diskinfo screen wants it to |
14:54:26 | LinusN | Bagder: seriously, more than one function will use it |
14:57:12 | Bagder | but only apps, right? |
14:57:24 | Zagor | yeah |
14:59:42 | LinusN | wow! apps/common is coming!!! :-) |
14:59:54 | Zagor | hehe |
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15:00:07 | * | Bagder tries to come up with something |
15:01:15 | Zagor | it's a tough nut to crack ;) |
15:01:35 | Bagder | the code seems to work though ;-) |
15:03:05 | Bagder | apps/string.c ? |
15:03:37 | Zagor | misc.c ;) |
15:03:50 | Zagor | string is fine with me |
15:04:45 | LinusN | of for me too |
15:04:48 | LinusN | ok |
15:05:22 | dwihno | barnens hus |
15:05:23 | dwihno | la l ala |
15:05:48 | dwihno | LinusN: Now you need to teach Linusette to upriciate Caramell and Mamma mU ;D |
15:06:00 | LinusN | hehe, will do |
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15:06:14 | LinusN | her name is Smilla by the way |
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15:06:43 | dwihno | :-) |
15:08:10 | Bagder | char *num2max5(int bytes, char *max5); |
15:08:29 | Zagor | goodie |
15:09:16 | LinusN | Bagder: i want unsigned int or unsigned long |
15:09:25 | Bagder | good point |
15:09:37 | dwihno | unsigned long misa think |
15:09:59 | Bagder | there's no difference here |
15:11:52 | dwihno | sounds gooder :) |
15:11:58 | dwihno | gooder. nice word |
15:12:01 | LinusN | anyone here who can test a line in music recording? |
15:12:16 | qule|out | me |
15:12:18 | Hadaka | do you use the foo2bar notation often in function names? |
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15:12:35 | Bagder | not really |
15:12:39 | LinusN | Hadaka: as often as possible, short names are a Good Thing |
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15:12:41 | Bagder | I was just out of ideas ;-) |
15:13:11 | LinusN | qule|out: hang on, i'll build a firmware to test for me |
15:13:12 | qule|out | LinusN: i was going to have lunch, can i tell you the result of the test at 16:00 ? |
15:13:24 | Hadaka | ookay then |
15:13:43 | qule|out | LinusN: are ypu going to send me a firmware? |
15:14:01 | LinusN | i will put it at linus.haxx.se/ajbrec.ajz |
15:14:10 | qule|out | oki doki |
15:14:28 | dwihno | *drumroll* |
15:14:29 | qule|out | call it linus.ajz pliz |
15:14:35 | LinusN | ok |
15:15:20 | LinusN | there will be two: reset.ajz and update.ajz |
15:16:08 | qule|out | should i download them into my jukebox? |
15:17:23 | LinusN | yup, and ROLO to them |
15:18:01 | LinusN | coming up in a minute |
15:18:09 | qule|out | LinusN: if you dont mind |
15:18:31 | qule|out | could you better upload them in my pc via ftp? |
15:18:39 | LinusN | sure |
15:19:11 | dwihno | blirp |
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15:27:12 | qule|out | cu later! |
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15:36:56 | LinusN | i am suspecting that the I2C and LCD serial communication interferes with the Line In sampling |
15:37:13 | Bagder | uff |
15:37:18 | Zagor | ouch |
15:37:34 | Zagor | so how would archos avoid that? |
15:37:40 | LinusN | and those faint high frequencies are generating the artifacts due to bad lowpass filters |
15:38:10 | LinusN | we will know when quelsaruk has tried my test firmwares this afternoon |
15:38:17 | LinusN | Zagor: maybe thet don't |
15:38:19 | LinusN | they |
15:38:31 | LinusN | people are complaining about hiss |
15:38:56 | Zagor | someone said rockbox recordings had less noise than archos |
15:39:16 | LinusN | that may have been a mic recording |
15:39:40 | Zagor | yeah. or digital. |
15:40:07 | Zagor | though how you get noise on a digital recording is beyond me :) |
15:40:21 | LinusN | hehe |
15:40:59 | dwihno | I need advice from you guys |
15:41:27 | LinusN | you must be desperate, asking us for advice |
15:41:30 | dwihno | If I would to replace my batteries with 1800mAh ones, would the charging become different in any way? |
15:41:47 | dwihno | LinusN: you are underestimating the power of yourselves ;D |
15:41:52 | LinusN | it may take longer to charge them |
15:42:10 | LinusN | we need to work on the charging btw |
15:42:46 | dwihno | I think it works rather nice |
15:43:02 | dwihno | I often fall asleep listening to the sweet tunes of Enigma or such :) |
15:43:57 | Zagor | dwihno: we use 1800 mAh all the time |
15:44:16 | dwihno | Zagor: no problems encountered? how much extra time do you gain? |
15:44:36 | Zagor | i haven't done any proper tests |
15:44:42 | Zagor | it feels like an hour or two extra |
15:44:51 | Zagor | no problems |
15:44:56 | * | dwihno is considering a hard disk upgrade as well. What do you recommend? Fujitsu, Hitachi or IBM? |
15:50:19 | dwihno | Linus promised me to help me out with that ;D |
15:50:37 | LinusN | yes i did |
15:51:06 | Zagor | dwihno: i have a toshiba :) |
15:51:09 | LinusN | ihave a 40gig Toshiba by the way |
15:51:22 | LinusN | and i like it |
15:51:29 | dwihno | Hm |
15:51:33 | dwihno | Where did you purchse it? |
15:51:38 | dwihno | I see nothing @ dustin |
15:51:46 | LinusN | i dunno |
15:51:55 | dwihno | Hehu |
15:52:16 | LinusN | my supplier at work ordered it for me |
15:53:51 | dwihno | :O |
15:53:55 | dwihno | "supplier" |
15:53:57 | dwihno | :O |
15:54:01 | dwihno | :( ) |
15:54:20 | dwihno | Tell he to supply me too ;D |
15:54:29 | dwihno | Tell him I'll buy him a beer :) |
15:55:08 | LinusN | haha, i'll tell him |
15:55:41 | dwihno | :D |
15:55:53 | dwihno | Some of that guinness stuff :) |
15:56:59 | dwihno | That will convince him :) |
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17:06:42 | LinusN | Zagor: do we have stat() or something to find out file size and stuff? |
17:06:59 | Zagor | not yet |
17:07:09 | LinusN | woudl be nice |
17:07:33 | LinusN | so that we can do without seek(fd, 0, SEEK_END) |
17:07:48 | Zagor | you can get it from readdir() until stat() is implemented |
17:07:57 | Zagor | stat() will just be a wrapper for that |
17:08:07 | Zagor | (readdir, that is) |
17:09:39 | LinusN | i was thinking of the id3 functions |
17:09:54 | LinusN | they seek to the end to find the file length |
17:10:11 | Zagor | ah |
17:20:23 | LinusN | maybe save the file size when opening the file |
17:22:24 | LinusN | in the file info struct |
17:32:59 | dwihno | Any of you guys use XFree 4+ ? |
17:34:33 | Zagor | ypu |
17:34:35 | Zagor | yup |
17:35:05 | qule|out | LinusN: work half-done... |
17:35:25 | qule|out | you've got the files at the ftp |
17:35:32 | qule|out | but i ran out of batteries |
17:35:44 | dwihno | Zagor: Could you do me a favor and check if there's something like ttmk<something>dir? |
17:35:45 | qule|out | and i have no update.mp3 |
17:35:47 | qule|out | :( |
17:35:55 | dwihno | Zagor: (for creating fonts.dir's for ttf's) |
17:36:12 | qule|out | so you've got just a mp3 using reset mas option |
17:36:16 | Zagor | dwihno: uh, i'm not at home :) |
17:36:58 | dwihno | Zagor: How about remote access? :) You DO have SSH? :) |
17:38:53 | Zagor | dwihno: my home box is not on |
17:39:59 | dwihno | Zagor: That's too bad. I'm so sad :/ :) |
17:40:03 | LinusN | qule|out: ok |
17:40:28 | dwihno | It would be neat to find out if I need to use some kind of external tool to generate the files |
17:40:55 | Zagor | dwihno: you should be able to find that info on google. it's pretty standard stuff. |
17:41:00 | Zagor | or join #linuxhelp |
17:41:06 | Zagor | gotta go, see you later |
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17:41:54 | qule|out | LinusN: i'll give you the other track tomorrow morning, if you don't mind |
17:42:08 | LinusN | qule|out: do you remember if they sounded different? |
17:42:22 | qule|out | yea |
17:42:34 | qule|out | reset sounded a bit better |
17:42:42 | LinusN | than update? |
17:42:42 | qule|out | but still had that nasty noise |
17:42:57 | qule|out | ummm |
17:43:01 | qule|out | can't tell you |
17:43:21 | qule|out | sorry |
17:43:44 | LinusN | too bad, thanks anyway |
17:44:31 | qule|out | too bad? me or the song? |
17:45:14 | LinusN | hehe, too bad you can't give me the update.mp3 |
17:45:28 | LinusN | that was the one i believed would fix the error... |
17:45:33 | qule|out | sorry |
17:46:22 | qule|out | :) |
17:46:42 | LinusN | reset.mp3 sounds better, but not good |
17:46:50 | qule|out | i know |
17:47:14 | qule|out | that was what i said before... it sound better, but still with that noise |
17:47:17 | qule|out | :) |
17:56:33 | dwihno | I was just wondering if building the emulator under freebsd requires some kind of extra stuff |
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18:01:05 | ]keno[ | morning (um, yeah) |
18:01:22 | ]keno[ | got a few Qs for you guys.. |
18:01:39 | ]keno[ | LinusN you ever sleep? |
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18:03:15 | ]keno[ | well first thing's first, the conditional tags don't work for some reason. Here's my default.wpf: |
18:04:10 | ]keno[ | %s%?%it<%?%ia<%ia - >%it|%fn>%s%?%id<%id|%d1> %?%in<- %in> |
18:04:43 | ]keno[ | also, only 1st scrolling line is really scrolling. the 2nd %s doesn't do anything |
18:05:36 | * | ]keno[ sits on his archos for a while |
18:05:48 | LinusN | i never sleep |
18:08:20 | ]keno[ | hey I just saw linus.haxx.se. very nice! |
18:08:54 | ]keno[ | sleeping is bad for you - you tell'em linus |
18:09:12 | dwihno | Well |
18:09:14 | dwihno | Weekend time |
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18:11:20 | ]keno[ | hmm. why does my "home made" charger makes a louder buzzing sound when charging than the archos one? |
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18:11:33 | LinusN | ]keno[: you run 1.4? |
18:11:41 | ]keno[ | yep |
18:11:49 | LinusN | then only one line scrolls |
18:12:00 | LinusN | the multiline scroll is a newer feature |
18:12:09 | LinusN | the docs are ahead of time |
18:12:17 | ]keno[ | okay |
18:12:26 | ]keno[ | heh, like microsoft! :) |
18:12:43 | ]keno[ | but why doesn't it work? (the conditionals) |
18:13:33 | LinusN | i'm no wps config expert |
18:14:35 | ]keno[ | if I use say %s%ia - %it %id - %in it shows the id3 artist/track, but if I use a conditional like %s%?%id<%id|%d1> %?%in<- %in> for the same mp3, it never sees the id3 artist/track/title |
18:14:49 | ]keno[ | hmm.. damn. |
18:14:51 | ]keno[ | who is then ? |
18:15:22 | ]keno[ | is this you btw LinusN ? http://linus.haxx.se/smilla1.html |
18:15:38 | LinusN | yes |
18:16:06 | ]keno[ | you look like my uncle heh |
18:16:11 | LinusN | hehe |
18:16:50 | LinusN | is that a compliment? |
18:16:52 | LinusN | :-) |
18:17:15 | ]keno[ | heh yeah |
18:17:21 | ]keno[ | he's a sports broadcaster |
18:18:59 | ]keno[ | kinda known around here |
18:19:00 | LinusN | oh, i have a radio face! |
18:19:23 | ]keno[ | heh |
18:19:37 | ]keno[ | he's on tv a lot too, so it's okay |
18:21:04 | ]keno[ | well, who do you think I should consult about the conditionals not working in custom WPSs ? |
18:22:02 | LinusN | someone else :-) |
18:22:20 | LinusN | well, i could help you by digging in the code, but i have so many other things to do |
18:22:20 | ]keno[ | other than the wps conditionals thing, I think there should be a menu option in SOUND menu for selecting CFGs from a pre defined dir. It's annoying to browse to the CFG files DIR all the time, especially if you have "follow playlist" on.. |
18:22:21 | ]keno[ | okay |
18:22:32 | LinusN | ]keno[: good idea |
18:22:46 | ]keno[ | nah, I'm sure I'll find someone whod listen soon :) |
18:22:56 | LinusN | that has been suggested quite a few times actually |
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18:23:08 | ]keno[ | LinusN the q is has it been posted? |
18:25:23 | ]keno[ | I mean, "feature request" doesn't show it |
18:25:56 | LinusN | i was looking there too |
18:26:09 | LinusN | post a request so we won't forget it |
18:26:21 | LinusN | we could use a font browser as well |
18:26:30 | LinusN | and a language selector |
18:26:59 | ]keno[ | I can do some translations if you like btw |
18:27:20 | ]keno[ | you want me to post these too, or are they already there? |
18:27:38 | LinusN | what language? |
18:28:06 | ]keno[ | btw is it just me or does the sound quality get really "overdrive" and very distorted and, well, BAD, over 96 percent volume on rockbox 1.4 ? |
18:28:16 | LinusN | Player? |
18:28:30 | ]keno[ | hebrew/arabic/romanian/russian |
18:28:40 | ]keno[ | recorder 20 |
18:29:12 | LinusN | ]keno[: is this true for both headphones and when connected to an amplifier? |
18:29:26 | LinusN | Rockbox is generally louder than Archos |
18:29:41 | ]keno[ | didn't try with an amp |
18:30:31 | ]keno[ | I can tell you that the same "volume overload distortion" (heh real technical am I) happens when I raise bass boost, then lower it. |
18:31:08 | ]keno[ | I can distinctly hear the audio becoming terribly "overdrive"ed when bass boost is lowered to 0 from say 10 percent or more |
18:34:53 | ]keno[ | anyone alive? |
18:35:12 | LinusN | ok |
18:35:30 | LinusN | are your mp3 files loud in general? |
18:35:55 | ]keno[ | no, have tried with various ones |
18:35:57 | LinusN | and how on earth can you raise the volume to 96 and not hurt your ears? :-) |
18:36:09 | ]keno[ | heh |
18:36:28 | LinusN | what are your settings? |
18:36:41 | ]keno[ | volume: 90 |
18:36:41 | ]keno[ | bass: 2 |
18:36:41 | ]keno[ | treble: -1 |
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18:36:41 | ]keno[ | balance: 0 |
18:36:41 | ]keno[ | channels: 0 |
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18:36:41 | ]keno[ | loudness: 0 |
18:36:43 | ]keno[ | bass boost: 20 |
18:36:45 | ]keno[ | auto volume: 0 |
18:37:00 | LinusN | i can tell you right now that it certainly is possible to "overdrive" the sound |
18:37:23 | ]keno[ | try to lower the bass to 00, or raise the volume above 96. it's worse if bass is +4db or more |
18:37:32 | LinusN | to avoid distortion, we have to follow the following formula: |
18:38:02 | LinusN | (bass+treble+loudness+bass boost) < 0dB |
18:38:11 | LinusN | (bass+treble+loudness+bass boost+volume) < 0dB |
18:38:13 | LinusN | sorry |
18:38:33 | LinusN | that means that we have to lower the volume if you increase the other parameters |
18:38:52 | LinusN | e have decided no to, because people appreciate the loud volume |
18:38:56 | LinusN | we |
18:39:25 | ]keno[ | .. myself included, but not at the expense of quality.. |
18:39:40 | ]keno[ | this is very strange.. are you sure noone else encountered this issue? |
18:40:01 | LinusN | the thing is, if you want a volume of 96, you are in trouble anyway |
18:40:21 | LinusN | if we compensate, you will never reach the volume you want anyway |
18:40:36 | LinusN | then you will set it to 100 and feel it is too low |
18:40:38 | ]keno[ | heh, you got the EX-70, I use the porta pros :) |
18:41:31 | LinusN | but you see my point? |
18:41:48 | ]keno[ | I can live with 96 percent volume just fine, but the bass boost thing is puzzeling me. why in the world would LOWERING it cause distortion? If I raise it back again to 10 percent, the distortion goes away. |
18:41:57 | ]keno[ | yes I understand and agree |
18:42:22 | LinusN | the bass boost is a peculiar thing |
18:43:18 | ]keno[ | meaning.. it can have unpredictable effect? |
18:43:24 | ]keno[ | earthquakes and such? |
18:43:54 | LinusN | nah, it reshapes the sound, so the ear perceives a bass frequency that actually isn't there |
18:44:27 | LinusN | so it might even help combat distortion, because it may remove "real" bass frequencies |
18:44:36 | LinusN | as far as i have understood it |
18:45:32 | ]keno[ | hmm. strange. |
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18:46:47 | ]keno[ | by the way, has anyone noticed a louder buzzing sound when charging with a different charger than the provided one? |
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18:48:45 | ]keno[ | I can't use the provided one without a 220>120 voltage adapter (not US based), and I won't carry it with me, so I found this old 9v DC 600mA charger, which works fine but does cause a much louder buzzing sound. |
18:49:11 | ]keno[ | is it safe? (or AS safe) |
18:49:49 | LinusN | i don't know, but as long as it is 9V 600mA |
18:49:53 | LinusN | is it regulated? |
18:51:47 | ]keno[ | no idea |
18:52:05 | ]keno[ | it barely has the voltage stated |
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18:59:24 | ]keno[ | I dont wanna open it up ;) |
18:59:26 | ]keno[ | hello? |
18:59:36 | LinusN | i'm here (coding) |
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19:00:09 | * | ]keno[ is mad at himself for delaying the next rockbox by disturbing linus <g> |
19:00:36 | LinusN | :-) |
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19:45:42 | qule|out | ummm.. an offtopic question |
19:45:55 | qule|out | has anyone digital tv? |
19:46:11 | qule|out | i mean, that kind of service installed at home |
19:51:28 | qule|out | ok.. seems that no one has a digital tv decoder |
19:51:29 | qule|out | :( |
19:53:53 | [keno] | I got a sattalite TV dish at my dad's |
19:54:21 | [keno] | and it's a thomson digital tv decoder I believe (haven't been there in a while) |
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20:43:44 | gnng | hi |
20:44:18 | Zagor | hi |
20:45:27 | gnng | do you know where i can download the binary-files of that "ui simulator"? i didn't find them on the page |
20:46:28 | Zagor | it only exists for linux |
20:46:36 | Zagor | the win32 version is too out-of-date |
20:47:07 | Zagor | the linux versions are at the bottom of http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml |
20:47:31 | gnng | fine, i gonna try it, thx |
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21:24:37 | gnng | hmm, how to tell the simulator which firmware to use? currently it closes himself right after having show the rockbox-logo |
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21:26:44 | Zagor | gnng: create an 'archos' dir/link in the dir you run the simulator from |
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21:55:28 | LinusN | anyone here who can do a Line In test? |
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22:07:18 | qule|out | jajajaj |
22:07:31 | qule|out | LinusN: not until tonight, and u know it :P |
22:07:55 | LinusN | it is night :-) |
22:08:28 | qule|out | not in spain |
22:09:04 | qule|out | well.. we have no sun, but nights here start at 12:00 pm |
22:09:23 | LinusN | ah |
22:10:12 | qule|out | i mean.. |
22:10:23 | LinusN | it's friday!!!!! |
22:10:52 | qule|out | we call night to the time after dinner and if it's friday we cal it to the hour we go to pubs or so |
22:11:26 | qule|out | if you say, i'll call you home tonight, it means, i'll call you after 10:30 |
22:11:29 | qule|out | :) |
22:11:37 | LinusN | qule|out: i think i have found the error |
22:12:07 | qule|out | really? |
22:12:10 | qule|out | where? |
22:12:25 | LinusN | it's a timing error in the DMA protocol |
22:12:29 | qule|out | or even better.. could you send me a repaired.ajz ? |
22:12:35 | qule|out | to test it |
22:12:36 | qule|out | :) |
22:12:45 | LinusN | i haven't been able to fix it yet... :-( |
22:12:50 | qule|out | upsss |
22:12:51 | qule|out | ok |
22:13:01 | qule|out | don't work to hadr tonight |
22:13:05 | qule|out | it's friday! |
22:13:16 | qule|out | go and drink some beers |
22:13:23 | qule|out | :) |
22:13:26 | LinusN | i can't |
22:13:40 | LinusN | i must stay home and take care of my sick wife |
22:15:04 | qule|out | sorry |
22:15:05 | qule|out | :( |
22:16:06 | LinusN | complications from the birth of our daughter last month |
22:16:19 | qule|out | i've seen her in your web |
22:16:29 | qule|out | :) |
22:17:37 | qule|out | LinusN: an offtopic question |
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22:18:00 | LinusN | shoot |
22:18:16 | qule|out | do you have in sweden some kind of digital tv? |
22:18:20 | LinusN | yes |
22:18:34 | LinusN | or rather digital transmitted TV |
22:18:44 | LinusN | not hdtv or something |
22:20:05 | qule|out | umm |
22:20:14 | qule|out | digital transmited tv.. |
22:20:28 | qule|out | i have installed it at home |
22:20:43 | qule|out | but i have to pay a lot for films, or football matches |
22:21:04 | qule|out | and i don't know how to do that "for free" |
22:21:17 | qule|out | i was wandering if you know how to do that.. |
22:21:32 | LinusN | i don't know anything about that |
22:21:33 | qule|out | because i suppose the decoder is more or less the same |
22:21:37 | qule|out | ouch |
22:21:42 | qule|out | what a pitty |
22:21:48 | LinusN | except that the encryption in sweden is quite tough |
22:23:32 | qule|out | in spain it was easy to decode.. until 4 months ago... they have changed it |
22:24:09 | LinusN | qule|out: are you talking about cable TV? |
22:24:18 | LinusN | or satellite TV? |
22:24:22 | qule|out | satellite |
22:24:40 | LinusN | ok, that was not what i was talking about |
22:24:45 | qule|out | ahh |
22:24:47 | qule|out | :) |
22:24:58 | qule|out | digital tv via satellite |
22:25:15 | LinusN | ok, that is often cracked in sweden |
22:25:55 | LinusN | i haven't done it myself |
22:26:52 | qule|out | ok |
22:27:00 | qule|out | i'll search the web |
22:27:08 | qule|out | maybe i'll find something |
22:29:03 | qule|out | LinusN: i'll upload the last file to the ftp tomorrow at 10:00 more or less, ok? |
22:29:17 | qule|out | my pc is always online |
22:29:21 | LinusN | qule|out: no need |
22:29:31 | qule|out | really? |
22:29:34 | LinusN | yup |
22:29:37 | qule|out | ok |
22:29:38 | qule|out | :) |
22:30:02 | LinusN | i see the error here anyway |
22:31:18 | qule|out | well... |
22:31:23 | qule|out | time to go home! |
22:31:25 | qule|out | see you! |
22:31:31 | LinusN | cu |
22:31:34 | qule|out | and i hope your wife gets better |
22:31:36 | qule|out | :) |
22:31:42 | LinusN | that will take about a year |
22:31:48 | LinusN | unfortunately |
22:31:49 | qule|out | that long? |
22:31:53 | LinusN | yup |
22:32:07 | LinusN | she is in great pain and can't move out of bed |
22:32:36 | qule|out | ouch |
22:32:37 | qule|out | sorry |
22:32:47 | LinusN | thanks |
22:32:48 | qule|out | that must be really hard... |
22:33:03 | LinusN | yeah, it is tough on us both |
22:33:14 | LinusN | but worst for the oldest kid |
22:33:26 | qule|out | the other boys at the photos are yours too? |
22:33:40 | qule|out | guys |
22:33:49 | LinusN | the boy, yes, the other girl is a friend |
22:33:59 | qule|out | ahmm.. ok |
22:34:47 | qule|out | if you where in spain i could offer myself if you needed anything, but too many kilometers |
22:34:57 | LinusN | thanks |
22:35:07 | LinusN | i'll have to put my son to bed now |
22:35:11 | LinusN | cu l8r |
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22:35:22 | qule|out | see you tomorrow |
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22:24:30 | Zagor | LinusN: anything you want tested? |
22:24:41 | LinusN | no, not yet |
22:46:27 | LinusN | Zagor: i want timestamps on the created files |
22:46:45 | Zagor | so add it ;) |
22:46:51 | Zagor | ok, i'll fix |
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