| 00:00:13 | _seb_ | paulheu: the US can control everything internationally because they are willing to cut off trade or something similar to any one that doesn't follow them |
| 00:00:18 | _seb_ | it's disgusting |
| 00:00:19 | paulheu | should be invasion of course..;) |
| 00:00:20 | [keno] | paulheu yeah.. there was a white house episode exactly about this issue |
| 00:02:08 | [keno] | I can't even grasp the amount of hypocriy required to run the world and still not subject yourself to the rules and regulations you force on others |
| 00:03:26 | paulheu | In our case.. I am 100% sure this guy is NOT guilty of what he is extradited for.. But when he is I fear he will not go to trial in the US for a year.. If he get jailtime he shoud be allowed to serve it here, but I it will be at least a year before he goes to trial and by then he will most likely be some srialkillerz bitch.. |
| 00:04:17 | [keno] | .. be it pollution prevention laws that bush canceled when he was elected or the warcrimes immunity issue |
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| 00:04:59 | paulheu | And we are talking about a real sweet, skinny, frigid guy here who will most definately NOT survive a year in a US jail.. |
| 00:05:30 | [keno] | paulheu aren't there any dutch groups who fight against this sort of thing? any parliament memebers that can fight for him? I mean, they can't all be that blind.. |
| 00:06:32 | [keno] | paulheu how incriminating is the evidnce against him? |
| 00:06:34 | paulheu | Yes.. there is a lot of people fighting for him, but as you may or may not know we have some serious governemental issues here right now and you know what happens when teh government is is disarray.. |
| 00:07:11 | [keno] | paulheu who would have figured.. my governmental role model acting like this. |
| 00:09:46 | [keno] | okay I have to get some sleep. got a trial tommorrow :( |
| 00:10:03 | [keno] | this has been an enlightning conversation. |
| 00:10:16 | paulheu | The evidence against him is basically two members of a US drugsgang who in order to receive a reduction in jailtime nemed him as the Dutch leader of their XTC ring. One of them has actually been in contact with him for about 6 months and the issue is teh guy sent a package to the US with XTC for the American. It was proven in court here he did NOT know the package contained pills.. He could prove he was convinced te package contained souveniers they |
| 00:10:22 | * | [keno] is away, zZz [log:] [page:] |
| 00:12:05 | [keno] | paulheu so if it's proven he didn't know about the hidden pills what's their problem letting him go??? |
| 00:13:01 | paulheu | The US want him in the US because he was sniotched by the US gangmembers and therefore he 'needs'to stand trial there.. |
| 00:14:20 | paulheu | and the US seems to not care about hwat has been proven here or what he has been sentenced for here.. officially they want to 'talk'to him.. but we all know he will be accused once he is ther and put on trial to make an example of onther Dutch Drugsdealer.. As I said Amsterdam.. city of sin |
| 00:18:31 | paulheu | Guess it's time to get some sleep tomorow is gonna be a long day.. |
| 00:19:07 | _seb_ | night paulheu, good talking with you |
| 00:19:15 | paulheu | CU l8er guys.. |
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| 00:20:54 | [keno] | bah I left the webcam on.. cant have it on when sleeping :) |
| 00:21:41 | [keno] | LinusN / Zagor / _seb_ if there's any need documentation or testing (though I'm very good at documenting) just let me know. |
| 00:21:58 | [keno] | gotta catch some zs |
| 00:24:52 | LinusN | sleep tight |
| 00:28:33 | _seb_ | night [keno] |
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| 01:38:24 | LinusN | welcome |
| 01:38:47 | jh101 | Thanks Linus, be gentle - it's my first visit here :) |
| 01:39:42 | LinusN | not much going on atm |
| 01:40:22 | jh101 | Well, I must say i've been busy cracking my old C books since I got my recorder and Rockbox. |
| 01:40:45 | LinusN | oh, planning to contribute? |
| 01:41:02 | jh101 | If my coding is up to your standards - gladly! |
| 01:41:13 | LinusN | great |
| 01:41:35 | jh101 | The first thing I did was add a sleep timer. |
| 01:41:43 | LinusN | nice |
| 01:42:44 | jh101 | This is how it works - there is a new menu item under Playback - Sleep Timer. Here you set the persistent Sleep timer value - up to 120 min in 10 min increments (redefinable based on compile-time constants). |
| 01:43:41 | LinusN | sounds good |
| 01:44:09 | jh101 | Then, at any time, hit F2 and the UpArrow variable is the current remaining sleep time. Press UP and add additional 10 mins. up to 120, then back to OFF. THis does not change the persistent value, only the sleep timer for the current session. |
| 01:46:23 | LinusN | ok, so i can have OFF in my pers settings and then start the timer with f2+up? |
| 01:46:44 | jh101 | Absolutely. |
| 01:47:13 | LinusN | that rocks! |
| 01:47:29 | jh101 | Then I moved to my second item - instant access playlists. |
| 01:47:48 | LinusN | have you thought about how to do it on the Player models? |
| 01:48:26 | jh101 | I don't have a Player and really don't know much about it - what is the Player missing that makes a sleep timer more difficult? |
| 01:49:03 | LinusN | f1-f3, plus it has only a 2x11 char text display |
| 01:50:03 | jh101 | Ouch. That does make it tough. One way to double the effective number of buttons is to allow for "Double-click" buttons. |
| 01:50:41 | jh101 | What I mean is that F1 clicked once means one thing, clicked twice within a certain number of milliseconds means something else. |
| 01:50:44 | LinusN | double-click is normally hard to implement |
| 01:51:41 | jh101 | I've looked over the button code - what makes it tough is preventing the unit from processing the first click before a second click can be received. |
| 01:51:43 | LinusN | since you have to carry out the single-click event regardless of the second click |
| 01:51:52 | jh101 | yep. |
| 01:52:35 | LinusN | in the computer world it's almost always "select" on the first click, and then the extra action on the second |
| 01:52:57 | LinusN | but there is not many such things in the rockbox world |
| 01:53:50 | jh101 | Are there many rockbox features that the player has trouble with? |
| 01:54:15 | LinusN | not many, mainly UI things, except for recording and pitch bend |
| 01:54:41 | LinusN | and lots of sound settings |
| 01:55:00 | jh101 | Since I don't have a player, I welcome you or anyone else making any mods to my sleeptimer code to get it functional with the player. |
| 01:55:25 | LinusN | can you submit a patch to the patch tracker? |
| 01:56:01 | jh101 | I've never used CVS (I'm currently running Win2K) - if I can get the time to figure it out, I would. |
| 01:59:17 | LinusN | CVS won't help you |
| 01:59:28 | LinusN | you need GNU diff |
| 01:59:52 | LinusN | (well, cvs can diff for you too) |
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| 02:00:24 | LinusN | what rockbox version did you build upon? |
| 02:00:55 | jh101 | I built on 2002-11-06. |
| 02:01:42 | LinusN | ok, fairly new then |
| 02:02:03 | LinusN | is it possible for you to send me the code for only the sleep timer? |
| 02:02:25 | LinusN | without the instant playlist stuff |
| 02:03:27 | jh101 | Sure - I added /firmware/sleeptimer.ch, and modded a few others. |
| 02:03:59 | LinusN | mail it to linus at haxx.se and also state your real name, for the credits |
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| 02:04:36 | jh101 | OK - i'll do it tomorrow - once I clear out the other mods I've made and are working on. |
| 02:04:52 | LinusN | great |
| 02:05:02 | LinusN | i have to sleep now |
| 02:05:13 | LinusN | it's 2am here ion sweden |
| 02:05:40 | jh101 | No prob. - have a good one. If you need to reach me, my email is jhagani at earthlink dot net. |
| 02:06:20 | LinusN | ok, thanks |
| 02:06:22 | LinusN | bye |
| 02:06:25 | jh101 | bye |
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| 09:19:13 | adi|sleep | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/message/14283 |
| 09:19:14 | adi|sleep | lol |
| 09:19:17 | adi|sleep | man of few words |
| 09:19:30 | Bagder | :-) |
| 09:22:19 | langhaarrocker | The long answer: You need two rockboxes and an external crossfader for that. |
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| 09:48:33 | Bagder | oh no! the mozilla 1.1 skins aren't compatible with 1.2 ;-O |
| 09:49:02 | Zagor | Bagder the skin ninja :) |
| 09:49:12 | Bagder | I love the orbit skin |
| 09:53:09 | dwihno | Bagder has skinned his archos with bumper stickers |
| 09:53:09 | dwihno | :) |
| 09:53:32 | Bagder | I'm making a fortune now, selling "rockbox skins" ;-) |
| 09:53:50 | dwihno | :D |
| 09:54:05 | langhaarrocker | I designed the skin "scratched", but it's still under (de)construction. |
| 09:54:22 | Bagder | hehe |
| 09:55:11 | dwihno | :-) |
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| 10:01:24 | Zagor | virus flood today |
| 10:01:33 | Bagder | yeah |
| 10:04:00 | dwihno | did you get that nasty bear "virus"? ;) |
| 10:04:24 | Zagor | i don't know what all these mails are. except annoying. |
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| 10:05:06 | Zagor | Bagder: have you looked at KDrive? "KDrive is an X server written by Keith Packard that was designed for low memory environments. On Linux/x86, a KDrive server with RENDER support but without support for scalable fonts compiles into less than 700 KB of text." |
| 10:05:31 | Zagor | maybe it's not useful |
| 10:05:42 | Bagder | not really, I still need a powerful browser on that |
| 10:05:48 | Zagor | yeah |
| 10:05:56 | Bagder | and afaik, konqe is the most capable one for small memory |
| 10:06:03 | Zagor | still having speed problems? |
| 10:06:06 | Bagder | yes |
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| 10:30:27 | Hadaka | dillo for browser ;) |
| 10:32:01 | Bagder | it ain't good enough |
| 10:32:31 | Bagder | doesn't even do cookies |
| 10:35:46 | Hadaka | err |
| 10:35:49 | Hadaka | it shows html |
| 10:36:01 | Hadaka | hyper-text markup language |
| 10:36:11 | Bagder | yes it does |
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| 11:07:58 | Bagder | curl is mentioned in the new edition of "unix power tools" |
| 11:08:54 | Zagor | nice |
| 11:10:27 | dwihno | Curl? Sounds grok'ish ;) |
| 11:15:48 | Bagder | hehe |
| 11:15:59 | dwihno | What's wrong with wget? |
| 11:16:03 | dwihno | I tried curl a time or two |
| 11:16:15 | Zagor | they serve slightly different purposes |
| 11:16:52 | Bagder | wget is fine, if all you need is recursive download |
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| 11:20:05 | dwihno | So what is curl good for? :) |
| 11:20:12 | LinusN | everything |
| 11:20:35 | LinusN | curl groks your URL |
| 11:20:48 | dwihno | hm |
| 11:20:50 | dwihno | :) |
| 11:21:05 | Bagder | for example HTTPS, POST, PUT and cookie stuff |
| 11:21:32 | Schnueff | hn |
| 11:21:33 | Schnueff | hm |
| 11:21:37 | Bagder | try writing a script that logs in to netscape mail and sends off a single mail |
| 11:21:39 | Bagder | ;-) |
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| 11:23:14 | Schnueff | i would take perl for that, but with much handwork I suppose |
| 11:23:33 | Zagor | yeah, *much* handwork... :-) |
| 11:23:39 | LinusN | Schnueff: you would take Perl _and_ curl |
| 11:23:52 | Schnueff | perl + LWP |
| 11:24:05 | Bagder | some people prefer lwp |
| 11:24:21 | Schnueff | ok |
| 11:24:23 | Bagder | insane people ;-) |
| 11:25:01 | dwihno | lwp? |
| 11:25:01 | Schnueff | if curl provides some magic to handle login on webpages and such this could be cute |
| 11:25:43 | Bagder | not really magic, just full cookie support, combined with POST and control of all headers etc |
| 11:26:49 | Bagder | lunchtime |
| 11:26:58 | Schnueff | bon appetit |
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| 17:49:53 | quelsaruk | hi! |
| 17:50:06 | LinusN | hi |
| 17:50:31 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 17:51:04 | quelsaruk | have you find out how to resolve the recording problem? |
| 17:56:10 | LinusN | i didn't know we had any more problems |
| 17:58:07 | quelsaruk | using line in |
| 17:58:13 | quelsaruk | ummm |
| 17:58:22 | quelsaruk | it's ok now? |
| 17:58:24 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 17:58:47 | quelsaruk | i have some kind of mind lag :) |
| 17:58:50 | LinusN | i think so, nobody has complained |
| 17:59:08 | LinusN | haven't you tried yourself? |
| 17:59:49 | quelsaruk | i'm a bit busy trying to solder the ear output :) |
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| 18:00:16 | LinusN | how's that going? |
| 18:01:25 | quelsaruk | i have a disassembled jukebox |
| 18:01:27 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 18:01:29 | quelsaruk | just that |
| 18:01:48 | quelsaruk | i hope i have some time tonight to solder that |
| 18:01:59 | LinusN | i wish i could help you |
| 18:02:19 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 18:02:22 | quelsaruk | thx |
| 18:03:44 | quelsaruk | i have a friend who has done electronic ingeniering, and when i told him about the digital output conversion.. he now wants to do it |
| 18:04:14 | quelsaruk | so if i finally try that other way, he could help me |
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| 18:04:42 | quelsaruk | and we could have a reeeeeaaaally useless mod |
| 18:04:46 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 18:10:06 | LinusN | :-) |
| 18:10:09 | LinusN | gotta go, cu |
| 18:10:12 | quelsaruk | cu! |
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| 18:34:11 | quelsaruk | hi TotMacher |
| 18:34:20 | TotMacher | hi |
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| 22:58:21 | slazZ | Hi ! |
| 22:58:34 | _seb_ | hallo slazZ! |
| 22:58:52 | slazZ | Only one question: Is the Wired Remote from the Jukebox Travel Kit compatible with rockboxx? |
| 22:59:23 | slazZ | _seb_, bist du deutschsprechender? |
| 22:59:52 | _seb_ | deutsch kann ich nicht als muttersprache aber ich lerns in der schule |
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| 23:00:12 | slazZ | kannst du ja schon recht gut :) |
| 23:00:42 | slazZ | can you help me with my question? |
| 23:01:15 | _seb_ | well, I'm not sure if it works |
| 23:01:29 | _seb_ | I don't have it, and the FAQ doesn't say anything |
| 23:02:07 | adi|sleep | as far as im aware, the remote is not fully compatible.. but im not 100% on that |
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| 23:03:19 | slazZ | nut fully? what do you mean with this? can i pressed "next" but not "prev" or what? |
| 23:03:59 | _seb_ | na probier's mal! :) |
| 23:04:14 | _seb_ | und sag uns danach, ob es richtig funktioniert |
| 23:04:40 | slazZ | jaja, un wenns nicht geht hab ich den salat ;) |
| 23:05:03 | nickr | works for me |
| 23:05:07 | nickr | all the buttons on it |
| 23:05:15 | slazZ | really? |
| 23:05:36 | nickr | yes |
| 23:06:03 | slazZ | hm i think i will bue it then |
| 23:06:15 | _seb_ | slazZ: was heisst "den salat haben" |
| 23:06:18 | _seb_ | ? |
| 23:06:27 | nickr | the main diff is the stop doesn't turn off the unit, and also there is no menu or on button |
| 23:06:41 | slazZ | hm, how can i explain it |
| 23:07:20 | slazZ | thx nickr! |
| 23:07:34 | slazZ | so seb |
| 23:07:38 | slazZ | nun zu dir |
| 23:07:55 | _seb_ | ja... |
| 23:07:55 | nickr | no problem :) |
| 23:08:38 | slazZ | das ist sowas wie.. |
| 23:08:43 | slazZ | ähh |
| 23:08:47 | _seb_ | heh |
| 23:08:56 | slazZ | das ist schwer zu erklären! |
| 23:09:09 | slazZ | ich bin am überlegen! |
| 23:09:11 | _seb_ | hehe |
| 23:09:25 | slazZ | das ist sowas wie "schlamassel" |
| 23:09:36 | slazZ | do you know that? |
| 23:09:51 | _seb_ | "mess"? |
| 23:10:14 | slazZ | yes! |
| 23:10:46 | _seb_ | ok like "to be in a mess"? "ich hab den salat" so "i'm in a mess"? |
| 23:10:59 | slazZ | sowie: "unglückliche angelegenheit" |
| 23:11:22 | _seb_ | ah so |
| 23:11:40 | slazZ | understand? |
| 23:11:54 | _seb_ | yup, thank you :) |
| 23:12:12 | slazZ | so far, is my english ok? |
| 23:12:12 | _seb_ | freu mich immer darueber, neue redensarte zu lernen |
| 23:12:17 | _seb_ | better than my german :) |
| 23:12:38 | _seb_ | but instead of "what do you mean with this" I would say "what do you mean by this" |
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