| 00:04:09 | LinusN | Zagor: i believe that many people would notice a difference if they had a choice |
| 00:04:35 | LinusN | i think that i am not the only one that has short battery life with SLEEP |
| 00:04:45 | LinusN | but i'm not sure |
| 00:05:04 | LinusN | that's why it would be nice to let people try it themselves |
| 00:05:17 | Zagor | i agree. but what I mean is it takes hours to notice the difference |
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| 00:13:09 | Zagor | but yes, my fix is not an elegant long term solution. |
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| 07:57:50 | Bagder | red build red build |
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| 09:15:17 | Bagder | hey |
| 09:15:23 | Zagor | ho |
| 09:17:39 | Bagder | very nice that people can auto-add me to yahoo groups |
| 09:17:44 | Bagder | veeery nice |
| 09:17:53 | Zagor | ouch! |
| 09:18:12 | Bagder | they even made me added with mails to my personal mail |
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| 09:19:06 | bobTHC | hi all!!! |
| 09:19:10 | Bagder | hi bob |
| 09:20:17 | Bagder | hm, there seems to be options for that |
| 09:20:25 | Bagder | "Allow group moderators to directly add me to their groups" |
| 09:20:26 | dwihno | I need advice! Where do I find information about events in sweden? |
| 09:20:40 | dwihno | Some kind of almighty list with all festivities, exhibitions etc. |
| 09:20:48 | Bagder | no idea |
| 09:23:41 | dwihno | Hm |
| 09:23:49 | dwihno | I thought you knew this stuff :) |
| 09:23:58 | Bagder | hehe |
| 09:24:04 | Bagder | I read web sites with the info I need |
| 09:24:15 | Bagder | no "almighty" list with crap I don't care about |
| 09:26:41 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:26:45 | dwihno | Crap?! |
| 09:26:49 | dwihno | You call fairs etc crap :) |
| 09:26:59 | Bagder | 99% of them, yes |
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| 09:29:33 | dwihno | :-) |
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| 09:33:05 | bobTHC | hi pyva |
| 09:33:12 | pyvasene | Yo Bob |
| 09:39:31 | Bagder | Zagor: those generated .txt files on the site have .html versions, you do remember that, don't you? ;-) |
| 09:41:15 | Zagor | Bagder: umm, which ones? |
| 09:41:29 | Bagder | cvs compile status and daily changelogs |
| 09:41:34 | Zagor | ah |
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| 10:02:50 | bobTHC | hi! |
| 10:03:15 | LinusN | hi |
| 10:04:41 | Bagder | hey |
| 10:05:13 | LinusN | yo |
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| 10:05:41 | bobTHC | what u decide for auto poweroff? |
| 10:07:01 | LinusN | i think menu item, no persistent setting |
| 10:07:54 | bobTHC | i'm agree with u... |
| 10:08:57 | Zagor | LinusN: good point about the versions... |
| 10:09:40 | bobTHC | the poweroff at the end of the folder like on stock firmware is possible to add at this menu item |
| 10:09:41 | bobTHC | ? |
| 10:10:09 | Zagor | does stock firmware have that? i've never seen it |
| 10:11:31 | bobTHC | not in option but if u dont active the repeat, after play entire folder the device stop . |
| 10:11:50 | Zagor | yes, so do we |
| 10:12:01 | LinusN | bobTHC: so does rockbox |
| 10:12:17 | bobTHC | hehe... |
| 10:15:02 | bobTHC | [OFF..15..30..60..120..end of file..end of folder] |
| 10:15:30 | Zagor | nah, a timer is enough. it will idle-poweroff on end-of-folder anyway |
| 10:15:56 | bobTHC | as u want sir ;) |
| 10:16:31 | Bagder | [ OFF ... 15 ... 30 ... WHEN USER SLEEPS ] |
| 10:16:35 | Bagder | :-) |
| 10:17:10 | bobTHC | based on low bio rythm detector |
| 10:17:21 | bobTHC | plugged on usb ;ā |
| 10:17:26 | bobTHC | ;) |
| 10:18:09 | Bagder | no, based on breathing analysis, using the mic ;-) |
| 10:19:21 | Schnueff | yeah |
| 10:19:21 | bobTHC | poweroff on whistle based on mic is better ;) |
| 10:19:25 | Schnueff | count_sheeps.mp3 |
| 10:20:04 | Bagder | bobTHC: you mean when the user stops whisteling? ;-) |
| 10:21:07 | bobTHC | when he whistle the device stop |
| 10:25:26 | Bagder | hm |
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| 10:29:35 | Bagder | crapppppp |
| 10:29:41 | Bagder | Nov 29 10:29:15 localhost kernel: Filesystem panic (dev 08:01). |
| 10:29:41 | Bagder | Nov 29 10:29:15 localhost kernel: fat_free: deleting beyond EOF |
| 10:29:41 | Bagder | Nov 29 10:29:15 localhost kernel: File system has been set read-only |
| 10:30:03 | bobTHC | ouch... |
| 10:33:44 | | Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|away (tot@p5084B8EC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:35:57 | Bagder | Zagor: you run dosfsck? which version do you have? |
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| 10:36:43 | Zagor | dosfsck 2.2, 06 Jul 1999, FAT32, LFN |
| 10:37:52 | Bagder | oh |
| 10:37:56 | Bagder | dosfsck 2.7, 14 Feb 2001, FAT32, LFN |
| 10:38:06 | Zagor | oh! |
| 10:38:57 | Bagder | still |
| 10:39:05 | dwihno | d'oh? |
| 10:39:07 | Bagder | it's not perfect |
| 10:39:25 | Zagor | but i've been running the latest and greatest at home, I think (debian unstable) |
| 10:39:51 | Bagder | I was wondering what that is |
| 10:40:26 | Zagor | btw, i've installed apt-rpm on labb. it's very nice. |
| 10:40:43 | Bagder | my version finds the same errrors all the time, when I run it repeatedly and tell it to fix |
| 10:41:21 | Bagder | hm, there seems to be a 2.8 |
| 10:41:26 | Zagor | yup |
| 10:42:14 | Zagor | 2.8 is from 2001-02-28 |
| 10:42:23 | Zagor | so that's what I run at home |
| 10:43:26 | Bagder | well |
| 10:43:34 | Bagder | there's *one* changed mentioned from 2.7 => 2.8 |
| 10:43:37 | Bagder | change |
| 10:46:04 | Bagder | blah |
| 10:46:08 | Bagder | didn't do any difference |
| 10:46:17 | Bagder | watch this: |
| 10:46:31 | Bagder | [blablla error what to do?] |
| 10:46:35 | Bagder | 1) Truncate first to 2994176 bytes |
| 10:46:35 | Bagder | 2) Truncate second to 0 bytes |
| 10:46:41 | Bagder | I pick 1 |
| 10:46:45 | Bagder | Internal error: didn't find cluster 33491 in chain starting at 0 |
| 10:49:04 | Bagder | uff |
| 10:49:06 | Bagder | how lame |
| 10:49:13 | Bagder | the prompt code is wrong |
| 10:50:34 | Bagder | so when I switched to use -a for automatic, it worked |
| 10:51:18 | dwihno | hm |
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| 10:54:03 | Schnueff | whoot |
| 10:54:25 | Bagder | prolly fell asleep on his keyboard... |
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| 10:54:45 | Schnueff | hm |
| 10:54:48 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 10:55:05 | * | Zagor buckles up |
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| 10:55:10 | Kick | (#rockbox tot|away :release your keyboard) by Bagder!~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se |
| 10:55:10 | | Join tot|away [0] (tot@p5084B8EC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:55:17 | LinusN | it's his cat |
| 10:55:22 | Schnueff | heh |
| 10:55:40 | >>> | "help ban" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
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| 10:55:48 | Mode | "#rockbox +b *!*@*.dip.t-dialin.net " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 10:55:51 | Kick | (#rockbox tot|away :release your keyboard) by Bagder!~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se |
| 10:57:01 | >>> | "sview bagder" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 10:57:12 | Mode | "#rockbox -b *!*@*.dip.t-dialin.net " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 10:57:17 | >>> | "bans" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 10:57:26 | >>> | "listbans" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 10:57:30 | >>> | "banlist" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 10:57:41 | >>> | "sview" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 10:58:08 | LinusN | Bagder: shouldn't Dancer handle those situations? |
| 10:58:25 | Bagder | if it had ops, it could, yes |
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| 11:00:32 | LinusN | ah yes |
| 11:00:38 | * | Bagder makes his first .rockbox directory ever ;-) |
| 11:00:49 | LinusN | after a dosfsck |
| 11:00:58 | Bagder | yes ;-) |
| 11:01:02 | Zagor | 2.4.20 should contain plenty of usb fixes. something to try for those of you who've had problems |
| 11:01:20 | LinusN | i tried to find the changelog |
| 11:01:38 | LinusN | kernel.org was ./ed and the mirrors weren't updated |
| 11:01:48 | Zagor | kernel org is ok now |
| 11:01:52 | Zagor | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/ChangeLog-2.4.20 |
| 11:04:03 | Bagder | using the latest code, my rockbox is not fine |
| 11:04:44 | Bagder | I can't press right to move to the next song |
| 11:04:54 | Zagor | ! |
| 11:04:58 | Bagder | it leaves my red led on |
| 11:05:06 | Bagder | might be my crappy fat perhaps |
| 11:05:29 | Zagor | you seem to have the same problem reported on the list. blame linus :-) |
| 11:05:50 | * | Bagder pulls up his big bad blaming device |
| 11:06:32 | LinusN | Mine works perfectly |
| 11:06:43 | Bagder | lucky you |
| 11:06:52 | Bagder | :-) |
| 11:07:55 | Bagder | I can only listen to one song |
| 11:07:56 | Zagor | mine too |
| 11:07:57 | Bagder | then it locks |
| 11:09:16 | Zagor | LinusN: do you have any ideas what it might be? |
| 11:09:23 | LinusN | Bagder: which version? |
| 11:09:29 | Bagder | 20 minutes ago |
| 11:09:40 | LinusN | oh |
| 11:09:43 | Zagor | Bagder: try the 2002-11-27 daily build |
| 11:09:44 | LinusN | let me try that one |
| 11:09:57 | Zagor | that was before my poweroff fix |
| 11:10:20 | Bagder | ok |
| 11:12:24 | Bagder | works fine |
| 11:12:43 | LinusN | Bagder: did you have poweroff on or off? |
| 11:12:48 | Bagder | tried both |
| 11:12:54 | Bagder | couldn't see any difference |
| 11:14:28 | Zagor | 27 works? |
| 11:14:35 | Bagder | 27 works fine |
| 11:14:39 | Zagor | spooky |
| 11:14:52 | Zagor | then I broke something |
| 11:16:01 | Bagder | now I ROLOd over to the new one again, and it breaks |
| 11:16:29 | Bagder | having disk poweroff on no |
| 11:17:21 | Zagor | that's what makes me think I've simply made a silly error in the code, and not that poweroff is bad for your unit |
| 11:20:54 | Zagor | can you look at ata.c and see if you can spot something dodgy? |
| 11:21:02 | Zagor | bagder and LinusN |
| 11:23:32 | Bagder | I'm not very familiar with it in the first place |
| 11:23:50 | Zagor | ok |
| 11:32:08 | Zagor | Bagder: style updated for the html files. now you change showlog.cgi :-) |
| 11:32:47 | Zagor | or, rather, /rockbox-auto/index.html |
| 11:34:58 | Bagder | ok |
| 11:38:18 | Zagor | LinusN: how about modding your serial-port-screenshot feature to write a file to disk instead? |
| 11:38:20 | Bagder | done |
| 11:39:55 | Bagder | brilliant idea |
| 11:40:10 | LinusN | Zagor: good idea |
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| 11:55:51 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 12:36:29 | bobTHC | bye!! |
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| 13:37:58 | * | [keno] upgraded to trillan pro |
| 13:39:27 | dwihno | Whoa |
| 13:39:30 | dwihno | Trillian pro? |
| 13:39:41 | dwihno | What's so good with the pro version? |
| 13:40:34 | [keno] | it's the next version after 0.75, only it's not freeware. |
| 13:40:34 | [keno] | http://www.trillian.cc/trillianpro/index.html |
| 13:41:44 | dwihno | I knew it |
| 13:41:50 | dwihno | It turned into costware! |
| 13:42:19 | Zagor | how utterly surprising :-) |
| 13:43:01 | [keno] | heh |
| 13:43:07 | [keno] | it's 25 bucks |
| 13:43:28 | [keno] | but they were kind enough to send a free version to every person who donated the $1 or more |
| 13:43:43 | dwihno | :-) |
| 13:44:01 | dwihno | Zagor: How about implementing some nagscreens and such in the rockbox firmware? :) |
| 13:44:17 | [keno] | it's really one amazing app.. only I won't pay 25$ for it.. |
| 13:44:23 | dwihno | Zagor: I've been playing around with "nokia-style" animations. It looks rather fishy in 1bit displays :/ |
| 13:44:48 | Zagor | why? my nokia is 1-bit |
| 13:45:13 | [keno] | which reminds me - I've had strange bugs with the 28th CVS |
| 13:45:14 | [keno] | mostly just weird hangs when entering/exiting dirs with many songs |
| 13:45:37 | Zagor | [keno]: yes, there seem to be a problem with my new disk-poweroff feature |
| 13:45:42 | dwihno | Zagor: I want shading! :) |
| 13:46:08 | Zagor | dwihno: hack the multimedia :-) |
| 13:46:16 | [keno] | also had once the same dir name displayed over and over (scrollbar was very small, so I figure it's the maximum entries) |
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| 13:46:49 | Zagor | that's an odd bug. haven't heard that before |
| 13:46:58 | [keno] | Zagor well, since I DO want recording, but I dont want to wait for 2.0 to have recording, which CVS should I use (that is stable enough..) ? |
| 13:47:01 | Zagor | tot|away: fell asleep at your keyboard previously? |
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| 13:47:13 | Zagor | [keno]: 26th |
| 13:47:15 | [keno] | Zagor USB plug was in when it happened |
| 13:47:40 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 13:47:47 | Mode | "#rockbox +o logbot " by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:47:47 | dwihno | Zagor: I'll do cool 1bit gfx too! I did USB thingy, remember ;D |
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| 13:47:48 | DBUG | Q-Sent KICK Hadaka to server |
| 13:47:48 | Kick | (#rockbox Hadaka :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
| 13:47:59 | Zagor | hadaka? lol! |
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| 13:48:40 | >>> | "ban tot|away 2:00 Step off your keyboard" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:48:47 | >>> | "pass" used by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 13:48:47 | *** | SPY: Authentication failed for Zagor |
| 13:48:49 | >>> | "pass" used by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 13:48:52 | >>> | "ban tot|away 2:00 Step off your keyboard" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:48:52 | DBUG | sent MODE #rockbox -o+b tot|away *!*tot@*.dip.t-dialin.net |
| 13:48:52 | DBUG | Sent KICK tot|away to server |
| 13:48:52 | Mode | "#rockbox -o+b tot|away *!*tot@*.dip.t-dialin.net " by logbot (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:48:52 | Kick | (#rockbox tot|away :Step off your keyboard) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
| 13:49:00 | | Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 13:49:23 | Zagor | hey bagder |
| 13:49:29 | Bagder | rehi |
| 13:49:31 | [keno] | now we only need linus and we got the entire haxx staff around |
| 13:50:20 | dwihno | Zagor: What gfx U want? |
| 13:50:39 | Zagor | i don't know. i have no firm plans, just thought it would maybe look nice |
| 13:50:51 | dwihno | yea |
| 13:50:52 | DBUG | sent MODE #rockbox -b *!*tot@*.dip.t-dialin.net |
| 13:50:52 | Mode | "#rockbox -b *!*tot@*.dip.t-dialin.net " by logbot (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:50:55 | dwihno | how about memory usage?= |
| 13:51:14 | dwihno | 164*112, right? |
| 13:51:19 | Zagor | 112x64 |
| 13:51:32 | dwihno | ah |
| 13:51:50 | Mode | "#rockbox -o Zagor " by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 13:52:19 | dwihno | wasting precious memory just to get fancy gfx :) |
| 13:52:57 | Zagor | well a couple of Ks could be worth wasting if it looks nice |
| 13:53:44 | dwihno | Ya |
| 13:54:20 | dwihno | I don't know where to add some gfx though |
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| 13:55:07 | Hadaka | heh |
| 13:55:30 | Zagor | sorry Hadaka :) |
| 13:55:41 | Zagor | for some reason logbot kicked you instead of tot|home |
| 13:55:44 | Hadaka | nah, no problem :) I just wonder what was up with tot|away again :) |
| 13:55:57 | Zagor | yeah, very odd behaviour |
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| 14:15:53 | TotMacher | lol |
| 14:15:56 | TotMacher | sorry |
| 14:16:10 | TotMacher | thats my keyboard at fucked up |
| 14:16:12 | TotMacher | :) |
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| 14:38:46 | Zagor | Bagder: does disk access always freeze after the first spindown? |
| 14:39:46 | Bagder | not the first, the second or something |
| 14:39:54 | Bagder | I can always get a song starting |
| 14:40:09 | Zagor | even if you let the disk spin down first? |
| 14:40:19 | Bagder | hm, I'll try |
| 14:40:20 | Zagor | (and wait 2s after spindown, for poweroff to kick in) |
| 14:40:34 | Bagder | I have poweroff disabled |
| 14:40:47 | Zagor | ok |
| 14:41:12 | Bagder | nah, no can do |
| 14:41:32 | Bagder | once it has spun down, I can't do anything |
| 14:41:52 | Zagor | hmm, what model of disk do you have? |
| 14:42:01 | Bagder | the original one |
| 14:42:08 | Bagder | lemme check |
| 14:42:19 | Zagor | both I and linus have Toshiba disks... |
| 14:42:53 | Bagder | Vendor: FUJITSU Model: MHN2200AT Rev: 7256 |
| 14:43:32 | Zagor | ok |
| 14:44:24 | Zagor | try this: let the disk spin down, then insert the USB cable and look at the RED led. does it ever light up? |
| 14:45:46 | Bagder | yes it does |
| 14:46:13 | Zagor | that means the poweroff switch doesn't work |
| 14:46:30 | Bagder | aha |
| 14:47:10 | Bagder | but then it also means that poweroff doesn't quite work for me |
| 14:47:39 | Zagor | yes |
| 14:54:52 | Zagor | ahhh, i know what it is |
| 14:55:09 | Zagor | it doesn't set the poweroff setting correctly at boot |
| 14:56:08 | Zagor | forgot to add a line in settings_apply() |
| 14:57:15 | Zagor | Bagder: try next BE build, or checkout/build now |
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| 15:01:54 | Bagder | seems to work now, yes |
| 15:02:06 | Zagor | ok, good |
| 15:03:09 | Zagor | now try rockbox.haxx.se/poweroff.ajz with poweroff enabled |
| 15:03:21 | Zagor | brb |
| 15:04:26 | dwihno | Yay for Zay :) |
| 15:05:12 | Bagder | no fun |
| 15:05:31 | dwihno | no mon' - no fun |
| 15:06:09 | * | dwihno got tragutized today |
| 15:06:19 | dwihno | Which wasn't as bad as I expected |
| 15:07:57 | _seb_ | What is that? |
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| 15:09:35 | dwihno | Google for 'tragus' |
| 15:10:56 | Zagor | damn. i don't understand. :-( |
| 15:11:20 | * | dwihno hands Zagor some hot choco and some gingerbread |
| 15:11:21 | _seb_ | I know a girl that had that done |
| 15:11:34 | _seb_ | if it is what it appears to be |
| 15:12:00 | _seb_ | the little knobby fleshy thing on the "head side" of your ear? |
| 15:12:07 | dwihno | yea |
| 15:12:13 | _seb_ | ok cool :) |
| 15:12:20 | dwihno | fleshy thing :D |
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| 15:12:38 | * | dwihno reads the $18 million deal which came with the rockbox mailing list |
| 15:13:21 | dwihno | I pity the fools who falls for those scams :( |
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| 15:13:38 | dwihno | I even read something about someone getting killed trying to frame the ppl behind the scheme |
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| 15:27:43 | slazZ | hi seb :) |
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| 15:31:10 | slazZ | seb ??? |
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| 15:54:46 | _seb_ | oops |
| 15:54:51 | _seb_ | I have to pay better attention to irc |
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| 15:58:48 | slazZ | huhu? |
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| 16:08:26 | quelsaruk | wrong button :) |
| 16:08:29 | quelsaruk | hi! |
| 16:13:37 | _seb_ | hi |
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| 16:40:26 | jh101 | Zagor, are you here? |
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| 16:40:43 | Zagor | yup |
| 16:41:13 | jh101 | Hi, I'm the author of the sleep timer mod that Linus has |
| 16:41:21 | Zagor | ok |
| 16:41:59 | jh101 | I was reviewing your IRC log from yesterday when you were discussing how the sleep timer should work, and thought I would try to explain why it was designed the way it was. |
| 16:42:51 | Zagor | are you disagreeing with our conclusions? |
| 16:43:01 | jh101 | Specifically, you were concerned why it had a persistent setting. |
| 16:43:57 | jh101 | I know that there are many people like myself who use the unit in their car to work. I wanted there to be a fall-back in case I forget to power it off when I leave the car. |
| 16:44:26 | jh101 | What I do is set it to 120 minutes in the persistent settings menu (knowing that it only takes about 90 minutes to get to work). |
| 16:44:49 | jh101 | This way, if I forget to power down, it will shut off shortly thereafter and I won't return to find a dead unit. |
| 16:46:08 | Zagor | good thinking, but I prefer that to be handled by a power-off-on-dc-loss feature |
| 16:46:47 | jh101 | That's fine, but is there one being implemented? |
| 16:47:24 | Zagor | there's one requested. and I think it's a good idea. |
| 16:47:30 | jh101 | How would it work? |
| 16:48:44 | Zagor | i think it should be a boolean setting, and when "true" should ask the user on dc-loss "Power off?" with a 5-10 sec timeout. after timeout, it shuts off |
| 16:49:18 | jh101 | But that would not handle the situation I described where DC was being used in the car... |
| 16:49:39 | Zagor | no? isn't your DC cut off when you turn off the car? |
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| 16:50:09 | jh101 | I don't run it on the car adapter, I run it on the batteries... |
| 16:50:43 | Zagor | ok |
| 16:51:06 | Zagor | i'm still not very happy about a persistent sleep timer, though |
| 16:51:27 | jh101 | It can be set to off (O minutes), of course, if you did not want to use it. |
| 16:51:42 | Zagor | it's not how people are used to sleep timers working. we'll get bug reports "unit turned off mysteriously after 45 minutes!" |
| 16:52:23 | jh101 | Only if the go and set it to 45 minutes...plus it prints "Zzzz...." as it turns off. |
| 16:53:29 | Zagor | jh101: yeah, but the point is "sleep timer" means a one-shot timer. clock radios, tv sets everything works this way. it will be confusing and annoying to have it persistent, because I will forget I used a sleep timer last night |
| 16:54:12 | Zagor | i understand your problem, but I don't think the sleep timer is the right solution |
| 16:55:04 | kargatron | agreed on that sleep thingie - should be one-timey |
| 16:55:05 | jh101 | The way it is implemented, you could simply leave the persistent setting to 0 (off) and set the sleep timer manually thru F2...To me, it seems that it serves both types of users (you and me). |
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| 16:55:50 | Zagor | jh101: then we'd need a persistent setting to say if the timer setting should be persistent... |
| 16:56:53 | jh101 | No, you're misunderstanding what I am saying...This is how it works: if you want to set the persistent setting, you go to the settings menu and do so, or else leave it on the default of 0 (off). |
| 16:56:58 | jh101 | <more> |
| 16:57:25 | jh101 | Then, if you at some point need the sleep time, set it with F2 (which does NOT change the persistent setting). |
| 16:58:01 | Zagor | we're having two timers? |
| 16:58:44 | jh101 | No, the F2 screen shows you what the remaining sleep time is and allows you to change it FOR THE CURRENT SESSSION ONLY. |
| 16:59:46 | Zagor | ah, I see. |
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| 17:00:04 | Zagor | I need to think about this some more, thank you for explaining it to me. |
| 17:00:08 | jh101 | Would you like me to email you the ajbrec.ajz file so you can see it for yourself? |
| 17:00:20 | Zagor | no, i think I understand it now |
| 17:01:03 | jh101 | OK...maybe I should discuss the next mod I've done too... |
| 17:01:09 | Zagor | heh |
| 17:01:39 | jh101 | I wanted any quick way to access all my playlists, so I added an item to the F3 screen. |
| 17:02:53 | jh101 | When to hit F3, the unit checks the ./playlists directory - using the UP arrow cycles through each playlist in that directory−− when you have the one you want, press PLAY to launch it. |
| 17:04:02 | Zagor | could be nice. although shoving everything onto the Fx-screens isn't very scalable :-) |
| 17:04:35 | jh101 | I know, that's why I'm working on adding new screens - accessed by DOUBLE clicking F2! |
| 17:04:50 | Zagor | hehe |
| 17:05:32 | jh101 | Click F2 once, you get the current F2 screen, but if you click it twice (within, say 1 second), you get different screen. |
| 17:06:13 | Zagor | worth trying |
| 17:07:06 | jh101 | it's simple: simply check the time when you enter F2 and when you exit, if less than, say, 1 second, it was a double click - i've implemented it and it seems to be viable. |
| 17:07:34 | Zagor | yes, the code is simple. i'm more concerned about the user experience. :-) |
| 17:07:53 | Zagor | i need to go out a while. see you later. |
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| 17:07:57 | jh101 | bye. |
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| 19:28:57 | werty1st | hello |
| 19:29:05 | | Nick Zagor|out is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 19:29:07 | Zagor | hi |
| 19:29:54 | DBUG | Sent KICK werty1st to server |
| 19:29:54 | werty1st | do u still think about ogg? |
| 19:29:54 | Kick | (#rockbox werty1st :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
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| 19:30:24 | werty1st | do u still think about ogg? |
| 19:30:26 | Zagor | hehe, logbot is picky :-) |
| 19:30:51 | Zagor | well, ogg is nice but we can't change codec |
| 19:31:44 | werty1st | could it be possible to replace the mp3 chip from the archos with one who is writeable? |
| 19:32:04 | werty1st | so u could load different codecs |
| 19:32:28 | Zagor | everything is possible, but that would be one heck of a mod... |
| 19:33:52 | werty1st | if i copy a bootdisk on my jukebox will i be able to boot frrom the jukebox? |
| 19:34:07 | Zagor | only if your BIOS can boot from USB |
| 19:34:08 | werty1st | or is the jukebox drive different from normal usb HDs? |
| 19:34:17 | werty1st | yes it can |
| 19:34:26 | Zagor | the Recorder20 is a normal USB disk, but not the other models |
| 19:34:57 | werty1st | do u know why there are different? |
| 19:35:24 | Zagor | they use an older usb controller, which does not follow the usb standard |
| 19:35:46 | werty1st | ah |
| 19:35:49 | werty1st | bad |
| 19:35:58 | Zagor | yes |
| 19:37:23 | werty1st | its very uncomfortable, if i think about this USB memory sticks which who |
| 19:38:34 | werty1st | ... sticks which can be used without any driver |
| 19:39:14 | werty1st | but most of the people have internet so its no act to downlod them ;-) |
| 19:39:37 | Zagor | which model do you have? |
| 19:40:12 | werty1st | rec 10 |
| 19:41:32 | werty1st | i havenīt yet tested the new daily mod but there is still missing a good playlistgenerator or am i wrong? |
| 19:42:25 | Zagor | no, it's still missing. i think it will come soon, though. |
| 19:44:22 | werty1st | where is the differencee between disk spindown and power off? |
| 19:45:06 | Zagor | disk spindown takes the disk into SLEEP mode, while poweroff actually cuts the power to the disk and thus saves even more power |
| 19:46:19 | werty1st | and when does it power off? if i select yes or after a few minutesß |
| 19:46:54 | Zagor | it powers off right after spindown. it's just an extra battery saving measure. |
| 19:49:07 | werty1st | why doesnīt it allways power off after spindown? |
| 19:50:04 | Zagor | it's supposed to. I have added the switch for testing. some people's disks have trouble waking up after poweroff |
| 19:50:21 | werty1st | yes |
| 19:50:24 | werty1st | mine too |
| 19:50:39 | Zagor | what model of harddisk do you have? |
| 19:50:48 | werty1st | after power off i couldnīt enter a directory |
| 19:51:04 | werty1st | where can i look for the modedl type? |
| 19:51:10 | Zagor | yes, that's the problem. it works on my unit though :-( |
| 19:51:24 | Zagor | i think in the device manager |
| 19:52:12 | werty1st | in windows? |
| 19:52:33 | Zagor | yes. "this computer->properties->device manager" (I think) |
| 19:52:48 | Zagor | or maybe if you have a little app in the status tray |
| 19:53:31 | werty1st | HITACHI_DK23BA-10E |
| 19:53:40 | Zagor | ok |
| 19:53:58 | werty1st | whats wrong with my hd? |
| 19:54:10 | Zagor | nothing |
| 19:54:37 | werty1st | does it have other commands to wake up? |
| 19:54:43 | Zagor | it's just that this poweroff thingy works for some people and not for others. it's probably just a bug that I haven't found yet |
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| 19:57:11 | werty1st | ok |
| 19:57:36 | werty1st | thanks for the information |
| 19:57:55 | Zagor | you're welcome |
| 19:58:11 | werty1st | iīll learn c in the future and then i hope to become as good as u are |
| 19:58:18 | Zagor | hehe |
| 19:58:34 | werty1st | now i only write in VB and delphi |
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| 23:05:05 | PhantomDJP | Hi ! |
| 23:06:24 | PhantomDJP | ?? |
| 23:06:28 | PhantomDJP | nobody ? |
| 23:06:54 | [keno] | hey |
| 23:07:12 | PhantomDJP | ah... |
| 23:07:15 | PhantomDJP | somebody |
| 23:07:24 | [keno] | kinda of :) |
| 23:08:02 | LinusN | i'm here too |
| 23:08:26 | PhantomDJP | I ve a question |
| 23:08:40 | PhantomDJP | I ve send a "feature request" : |
| 23:08:53 | PhantomDJP | Files sharing between Two archos device by the USB |
| 23:08:53 | PhantomDJP | link should be could, I know that file creating is really |
| 23:08:53 | PhantomDJP | new but I'm sure file transfer is possible (and that should |
| 23:08:53 | DBUG | Sent KICK PhantomDJP to server |
| 23:08:53 | PhantomDJP | be VERY cool if just one "rockbox powered" archos is |
| 23:08:53 | PhantomDJP | need) |
| 23:08:53 | Kick | (#rockbox PhantomDJP :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
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| 23:09:00 | PhantomDJP | arg |
| 23:09:02 | PhantomDJP | sorry |
| 23:09:09 | LinusN | :-) |
| 23:09:23 | LinusN | peer to peer USB is not possible with the archos |
| 23:09:39 | PhantomDJP | why ? |
| 23:09:45 | PhantomDJP | :-( |
| 23:09:46 | [keno] | USB slave can't communicate with other USB slaves.. read the rockbox FAQ |
| 23:09:56 | PhantomDJP | I've read It |
| 23:09:57 | LinusN | because the USB controller is a USB to ATA bridge and nothing else, read the FAQ |
| 23:10:06 | PhantomDJP | but I've have find that.. |
| 23:10:18 | PhantomDJP | ok |
| 23:10:20 | PhantomDJP | so |
| 23:10:44 | PhantomDJP | It is another dream that I loose |
| 23:10:48 | PhantomDJP | sniff |
| 23:10:50 | LinusN | sorry about that |
| 23:10:55 | LinusN | it would have been cool |
| 23:11:27 | PhantomDJP | yes, In my school we are 10 to have an archos recorder... |
| 23:11:55 | [keno] | heh |
| 23:12:03 | [keno] | around here people think it's a mindisc |
| 23:12:10 | [keno] | I'm the only one who's ever heard of the company |
| 23:12:21 | [keno] | (except a friend of mine, who just got his after playing around with mine) |
| 23:13:11 | [keno] | phantom you just need any PC with two free USB ports .. not that hard to find in a school |
| 23:13:25 | PhantomDJP | And an interface ? |
| 23:13:35 | PhantomDJP | betwenn two archos ? |
| 23:14:16 | LinusN | no, just connect the two archoses to the same pc |
| 23:14:34 | [keno] | the PC's hard drive controller *IS* the interface between the two archos units |
| 23:14:48 | PhantomDJP | :-( |
| 23:14:50 | PhantomDJP | pff |
| 23:15:16 | [keno] | what's the big deal? just copy from drive X to drive Y and unplug both when done.. not that much of a hassle.. |
| 23:15:32 | LinusN | [keno]: but you can't do it on the bus... |
| 23:15:32 | [keno] | so you can't trade songs while riding the bus (unless you record heh) |
| 23:15:41 | [keno] | Jesus! |
| 23:15:47 | [keno] | stole my line! :) |
| 23:15:48 | LinusN | two minds... |
| 23:16:06 | PhantomDJP | In my school (In france) PC are reserved for Computer Lesson and for teacher use expect the one of the library... |
| 23:16:48 | PhantomDJP | ;-) |
| 23:16:52 | PhantomDJP | :-)) |
| 23:16:56 | [keno] | I wonder a bus is perceived as the hardset place to be technically advanced :) |
| 23:17:03 | PhantomDJP | A notebook |
| 23:17:17 | PhantomDJP | this is the last solution |
| 23:17:18 | LinusN | PhantomDJP: sure, a notebook will do |
| 23:17:33 | LinusN | not all notebooks have several USB ports though |
| 23:17:47 | PhantomDJP | Mines |
| 23:17:50 | PhantomDJP | have |
| 23:18:13 | [keno] | phantom even a an archos multimedia jukebox will do I think.. it accepts USB IN from various cameras.. maybe from archos jukeboxes too |
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| 23:18:45 | PhantomDJP | not stupid, but... do you try it ? |
| 23:19:44 | [keno] | no I didn't |
| 23:19:55 | PhantomDJP | Archos (the firm) is at 2 or 3 kilometers from my home and I've try all the last devices |
| 23:20:07 | [keno] | didn't get the multimedia box as it was (is) way too expensive. |
| 23:20:18 | [keno] | so glad I didn't when I first hit rockbox.haxx.se :) |
| 23:20:29 | PhantomDJP | FM recorder have the same firmware than a recorder but a bit "power up" |
| 23:20:38 | PhantomDJP | the MMP is : SCHIIITTT |
| 23:20:45 | [keno] | phantom really? it's french??? I thought it's US based! |
| 23:21:04 | PhantomDJP | the color screen is juste 3/2 mor big than the recorder one |
| 23:21:25 | PhantomDJP | NO : ARCHOS IS A FRENCH company |
| 23:21:31 | PhantomDJP | :-) |
| 23:21:32 | [keno] | then perhaps you could do us all a favor - sneak in in the middle of the night and steal the source code to their firmware :) |
| 23:21:44 | PhantomDJP | ;-) |
| 23:22:05 | PhantomDJP | I don't think to be able to do that |
| 23:22:12 | [keno] | then I wonder why on amazon.co.uk the recorder 20 costs like 30 percent more than on amazon.com |
| 23:22:20 | PhantomDJP | but , I ve something fun to say |
| 23:22:40 | PhantomDJP | 2 month ago My recorder burned |
| 23:23:02 | PhantomDJP | I've try to fix my self a bit problem |
| 23:23:17 | PhantomDJP | so, I m gone to Archos |
| 23:23:25 | [keno] | well, french or no french, it's still made in china heh |
| 23:24:01 | PhantomDJP | And give it to them, 10 minute later, The guy come bvack With a 10Go insteed of a 6 !!! |
| 23:24:22 | PhantomDJP | It give my and said "sorry, we don't have 6go anymore" |
| 23:24:56 | PhantomDJP | During the 10 minutes I've waited do you know what I ve see ? |
| 23:25:22 | [keno] | .. the guy changing the hard drive to the 10GB ? |
| 23:25:31 | PhantomDJP | about All people At the coffe machine whithout work... |
| 23:25:34 | PhantomDJP | YES |
| 23:25:42 | PhantomDJP | I ve buy a 6 |
| 23:25:49 | PhantomDJP | he give me a 10 |
| 23:26:14 | PhantomDJP | that a good guy |
| 23:26:22 | PhantomDJP | ;-) |
| 23:26:28 | [keno] | very nice. maybe you can check and see if any of those guys run rockbox on their personal unit.. would be a hoot |
| 23:27:17 | PhantomDJP | I ve ask them by email, they never answer... |
| 23:27:21 | [keno] | it was prolly more expensive for them to order one 6GB HD especially for you |
| 23:27:40 | [keno] | they answered me.. though the have "no comments" about the rockbox |
| 23:30:10 | PhantomDJP | !!! |
| 23:30:16 | PhantomDJP | another request : |
| 23:30:47 | PhantomDJP | the ability to run the firmware include IN the archos |
| 23:31:00 | PhantomDJP | because in mine it is the 1.28 |
| 23:31:17 | PhantomDJP | and Archos only release the 1.27d |
| 23:31:52 | [keno] | ] <PhantomDJP> the ability to run the firmware include IN the archos <−− explain ?? |
| 23:32:12 | PhantomDJP | the "original" |
| 23:32:22 | [keno] | you mean ROLO to the original? |
| 23:32:31 | PhantomDJP | which is includ in ram or rom I don't know |
| 23:32:45 | PhantomDJP | yes |
| 23:32:45 | [keno] | linus told me that 1.27d and 1.28 are identical, and archos told me the same (kind of) |
| 23:32:59 | PhantomDJP | arf |
| 23:33:00 | PhantomDJP | k |
| 23:33:20 | PhantomDJP | so I think they stop to update it definitly |
| 23:33:24 | PhantomDJP | ... |
| 23:33:59 | PhantomDJP | BUT WE HAVE ROCKBOX ! |
| 23:34:04 | [keno] | maybe not.. who knows. who cares now |
| 23:34:06 | [keno] | exactly |
| 23:34:35 | PhantomDJP | I've heard about a chip8 emulator,what that ? |
| 23:34:59 | [keno] | no idea |
| 23:35:27 | PhantomDJP | arf |
| 23:36:19 | PhantomDJP | that would be cool |
| 23:36:30 | PhantomDJP | they are some fun mini games on cip8 |
| 23:36:33 | PhantomDJP | chip8 |
| 23:37:37 | LinusN | PhantomDJP: running the internal firmware might not be easy to do |
| 23:37:50 | PhantomDJP | ok |
| 23:37:56 | LinusN | the first thing it will do is try to load ajbrec.ajz, and you'll be back again |
| 23:38:29 | PhantomDJP | I'm going to play Team fortress classic, bye |
| 23:38:38 | LinusN | cu |
| 23:38:58 | [keno] | LinusN isn't there a way to copy what's in the rom to an azj ? |
| 23:39:12 | [keno] | like bios export on PC ? |
| 23:39:20 | [keno] | (.bin file of my bios) |
| 23:40:00 | LinusN | perhaps |
| 23:40:20 | LinusN | we could try that, but why? |
| 23:41:18 | [keno] | just curious if it's possible to have my ROM version as a file.. not much use for it |
| 23:42:36 | LinusN | the problem is that it is linked to a different address space |
| 23:42:55 | LinusN | the ajbrec.ajz file is linked to run at 0x900000 |
| 23:43:04 | LinusN | the ROM is at 0, i think |
| 23:43:06 | | Quit PhantomDJP ("Fermeture du client") |
| 23:44:30 | [keno] | I understand, but I don't have a clue as to why is that a problem.. |
| 23:44:39 | * | [keno] doesn't know C or ASM :( |
| 23:49:04 | LinusN | oh |
| 23:49:32 | LinusN | ajbrec.ajz will be loaded at address 0x900000 in memory |
| 23:49:45 | * | [keno] lowers his head in shame :( |
| 23:49:47 | LinusN | but the ROM firmware is compiled to run at address 0 |
| 23:51:00 | [keno] | I got that, but I still dont see why it cant be dumped into a file |
| 23:51:29 | [keno] | prolly a waste of time explaining it to me anyways since it doesnt matter that much even if it was possible :) |
| 23:51:33 | LinusN | it can, but the file will be loaded at 0x900000 |
| 23:51:49 | LinusN | and crash |
| 23:53:02 | [keno] | oh. I understand. |
| 23:54:02 | [keno] | and since it's hard coded there really isn't a way of changing it.. well, in any case, don't think I'll be needing any archos firmware now that I got recording and soon (?) I'll have dir/file operations |
| 23:56:14 | LinusN | true |
| 23:56:24 | LinusN | gotta reboot, cu soon |
| 23:56:26 | | Part LinusN |
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