| 00:02:32 | adi|work | is .mod a format im not aware of? |
| 00:03:20 | LinusN | adi|work: huh? |
| 00:03:32 | adi|work | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439121&aid=648092&group_id=443 |
| 00:03:32 | adi|work | 06 |
| 00:03:35 | LinusN | .mod is a file extension |
| 00:03:47 | adi|work | right.. |
| 00:03:54 | adi|work | we got a nother putz who didn't read the FAQ |
| 00:04:19 | LinusN | hey, wait a sec |
| 00:04:24 | adi|work | what? |
| 00:04:56 | LinusN | MOD files are oldskool music files |
| 00:05:02 | adi|work | right.. and? |
| 00:05:08 | LinusN | originally from the Amiga/Atari scene |
| 00:05:16 | adi|work | are they mp* ? |
| 00:05:20 | LinusN | some samples and a sequencer |
| 00:05:31 | adi|work | ie: can we play them? |
| 00:05:36 | LinusN | more like midi files with accompanying sounds |
| 00:05:42 | LinusN | we can't play them |
| 00:05:48 | adi|work | like i said.. another putz ;) |
| 00:05:52 | LinusN | we need multichannel PCM playback |
| 00:06:27 | LinusN | hehe, and he thought that we could use winamp plugins.... |
| 00:07:35 | adi|work | yeah..but he's special |
| 00:07:40 | adi|work | sk00l |
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| 00:07:47 | Triple-z | hey |
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| 00:08:04 | adi|work | careful with those heys |
| 00:08:07 | adi|work | their dangerous |
| 00:08:17 | adi|work | okay.. headedhome |
| 00:08:25 | LinusN | Triple-z: hi |
| 00:10:11 | Triple-z | hah |
| 00:10:30 | Triple-z | well i wasnt here for like 3 weeks, whats new? |
| 00:11:04 | LinusN | well, recording, ATA poweroff function and sleep timer |
| 00:11:37 | Triple-z | for some reasone i had probs with the last builts |
| 00:11:48 | Triple-z | ill try the newest |
| 00:11:53 | LinusN | hard drive probs? |
| 00:11:59 | LinusN | hangs? |
| 00:12:50 | Triple-z | i think, i cant get inside the folder, or it takes for too long |
| 00:13:20 | LinusN | ok, disable disk poweroff in the system settings |
| 00:13:25 | LinusN | and see if it helps |
| 00:13:44 | Triple-z | thx |
| 00:14:05 | Triple-z | does bidi scroll is inside the last builds? |
| 00:14:42 | LinusN | i don't know |
| 00:14:54 | LinusN | i didn't know that was in at all |
| 00:15:25 | Triple-z | you know what is it? |
| 00:15:29 | Triple-z | it is |
| 00:15:37 | LinusN | yes, |
| 00:15:49 | LinusN | bidirectional scroll, like archos |
| 00:15:59 | Triple-z | yeah |
| 00:16:16 | LinusN | i tried to implement that, but i ran into some problems |
| 00:16:24 | LinusN | on the recorder |
| 00:16:32 | LinusN | so i focused on the recording |
| 00:16:48 | Triple-z | really? i hoped its a simple thing |
| 00:17:03 | LinusN | it's not as easy as one would think |
| 00:17:39 | LinusN | and i was in a hurry at the time |
| 00:17:53 | Triple-z | oh ok |
| 00:18:26 | Triple-z | so when you find the time.. plz |
| 00:18:54 | LinusN | ok, ok :-) |
| 00:19:09 | Triple-z | thanks |
| 00:19:34 | Triple-z | what you guys use: AMD or intel? |
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| 00:21:16 | LinusN | i have AMD (athlon XP 1800) |
| 00:21:49 | LinusN | and intel in the laptop |
| 00:22:03 | LinusN | mobile P4 2GHz |
| 00:22:10 | Triple-z | XP 2000 is better than P4 2.0ghz? i didnt really got that, cuse its lower in ghz.. |
| 00:22:34 | LinusN | Triple-z: GHz isn't everything |
| 00:22:41 | Triple-z | i know |
| 00:22:44 | Triple-z | but still |
| 00:22:46 | LinusN | it's like saying that RPM is all in a car |
| 00:22:46 | TotMacher | NAH ! |
| 00:22:52 | TotMacher | ghz is everything |
| 00:23:02 | TotMacher | size does matter ! |
| 00:23:04 | kargatron | rpm is everything! |
| 00:23:08 | TotMacher | hehe |
| 00:23:26 | TotMacher | whats more important ? technics or length ? |
| 00:23:34 | LinusN | thickness |
| 00:23:39 | TotMacher | hehe |
| 00:23:41 | TotMacher | yeah |
| 00:23:44 | kargatron | "girth" is better LinusN |
| 00:24:44 | LinusN | ? |
| 00:25:12 | kargatron | "girth" is a better word to use there than "thickness". More mahnly. :) |
| 00:25:23 | LinusN | oh |
| 00:25:54 | Triple-z | tell me what you think about this parts: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Tray CPU, Thermaltake Volcano 7 Plus CPU Cooler for AMD, Gigabyte GA-7VAX VIA KT400 Motherboard (AGPx8, 5.1 Sound, ATA133, LAN, USB 2.0), DDR-RAM 256MB 3200 Samsung Original Memory, Gigabyte RADEON 9000 Pro 64MB DDR Bulk VideoCard, TASK 5200B Front USB Case |
| 00:26:18 | Triple-z | hows that? |
| 00:26:20 | kargatron | wow, a sleep timer done? didn't even know it was being worked on |
| 00:27:04 | LinusN | Triple-z: looks ok |
| 00:27:15 | LinusN | what will you do with that system? |
| 00:27:27 | kargatron | email, games, the usual. :) |
| 00:27:47 | LinusN | kargatron: i wouldn't recommend it for video editing |
| 00:27:54 | Triple-z | well video, internet, some gfx, games |
| 00:28:15 | Triple-z | not really video editing |
| 00:28:44 | LinusN | good, VIA chipsets are not kind to video editing cards, PCI-bandwidth-wise |
| 00:29:07 | LinusN | something about badly or not implemented bus parking |
| 00:29:09 | Triple-z | Gigabyte RADEON 9000 Pro 64MB DDR is good? |
| 00:29:40 | * | Triple-z anit got money for all the expencive stuff |
| 00:30:39 | LinusN | i can't tell if gigabyte does better video cards than other companies |
| 00:30:58 | LinusN | but as long as it is radeon9x00 it sounds ok to me |
| 00:31:15 | Triple-z | its better then gettin a gf4 440mx 64ddr i think |
| 00:31:24 | LinusN | i'm not all up to date with the video card business |
| 00:31:55 | LinusN | i still have a Matrox G400 |
| 00:32:31 | Triple-z | ever heard on winbond memory? |
| 00:33:05 | Triple-z | http://tw.giga-byte.com/products/7vax.htm thats the mobo |
| 00:34:39 | LinusN | winbond? no. |
| 00:34:43 | LinusN | never heard of it |
| 00:34:57 | Triple-z | guess its shitty |
| 00:35:10 | LinusN | i doubt it |
| 00:35:43 | LinusN | i dont think you can find really shitty memory nowadays |
| 00:35:55 | LinusN | as long as you stay within specs |
| 00:36:20 | Triple-z | http://www.winbond.com.tw i think |
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| 03:41:46 | guest | hey |
| 03:42:08 | guest | anyone here, knows how to put on a patch? |
| 03:42:17 | guest | I can't get a patch on |
| 03:43:54 | guest | well, could anyone, put the "more games for rockbox" patch on the recorder 1.4 release, and e-mail it to me, compiled and made at scope@nc.rr.com |
| 03:44:02 | guest | thanks |
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| 04:36:10 | adi|sleep | EVERYTIME guest comes in.. im not here... |
| 04:36:15 | adi|sleep | i want to toss that bastard... |
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| 08:55:03 | dwihno | Hey ho! |
| 08:55:11 | Bagder | morn |
| 08:55:25 | dwihno | I got some feedback on the bleeding edge from last evening |
| 08:55:31 | dwihno | from 4pm or such |
| 08:55:38 | dwihno | First of all, a scroll issue |
| 08:55:45 | dwihno | (which has been there for quite a whild) |
| 08:56:13 | dwihno | after ffw:ing in a stream, one of my scrolling lines starts to act funky |
| 08:56:31 | dwihno | I also had a single hang when pressing 'next' while playing a playlist |
| 08:56:54 | Bagder | ouch |
| 09:00 |
| 09:04:18 | dwihno | The LED was lit and nothing happened |
| 09:04:35 | dwihno | But that scroll issue might have something to do with multiple lines of scrolling |
| 09:14:32 | dwihno | Bagder: Did you ever do win32 API coding? :) |
| 09:14:48 | Bagder | I did. Long time ago though. |
| 09:15:41 | dwihno | Do you know how to intercept WM_SIZE messages (mainly to limit the window heights) :) ? |
| 09:15:54 | Bagder | no clue |
| 09:23:08 | dwihno | I bet you know how to do it with all those widget sets like GTK, athena, wxwindows etc. ;) |
| 09:23:24 | Bagder | I don't do much GUI programming |
| 09:23:37 | Bagder | so the answer is no, I'm quite clueless on all of them |
| 09:24:14 | dwihno | GUI is your friend! :) |
| 09:24:36 | Bagder | I know the Rockbox GUI API! ;-) |
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| 09:24:54 | dwihno | It's a LCD framebuffer for crying out loud! :) |
| 09:25:02 | Bagder | it is? ;-P |
| 09:25:04 | dwihno | Yes |
| 09:25:06 | dwihno | I invented it |
| 09:25:08 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:25:10 | Bagder | haha |
| 09:25:27 | * | dwihno - mister inventer guy |
| 09:25:44 | dwihno | Hi Z |
| 09:26:10 | Bagder | Zagor_: I read they have problems with 2.4.20 |
| 09:26:20 | Bagder | ext3-related |
| 09:26:40 | Bagder | just fyi, could be worth not upgrading |
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| 09:27:47 | Zagor | ok |
| 09:28:54 | Zagor | Archos wants to put Rockbox on their support CDROM for the Studio series. |
| 09:29:24 | dwihno | hah |
| 09:29:25 | Bagder | coolness |
| 09:29:28 | dwihno | Show me the mail! :D |
| 09:29:31 | dwihno | Misa wanna read! |
| 09:29:49 | dwihno | Zagor: Make a deal with them - They can do so, if they give you the MAS specs! |
| 09:29:55 | Zagor | haha |
| 09:30:07 | Bagder | in fact, they can do that already without asking |
| 09:30:09 | Zagor | I'm not so sure they have them... |
| 09:30:11 | dwihno | I know |
| 09:30:12 | Zagor | Bagder: exactly |
| 09:30:21 | dwihno | Bagder: sometimes, you have to dra en rövare :) |
| 09:30:25 | Bagder | but asking is nice and polite |
| 09:30:28 | dwihno | Yes |
| 09:30:29 | dwihno | It is |
| 09:30:47 | dwihno | Zagor: Show me the mail!!! :) |
| 09:30:50 | dwihno | I wanna see |
| 09:32:58 | dwihno | Zagor: they weren't interested in Rockbox for the recorder? |
| 09:33:11 | dwihno | Prolly due to the missing recording feature and disk writing |
| 09:34:15 | Zagor | exactly. they might be interested once we support recording |
| 09:34:49 | Zagor | i won't publish the mail |
| 09:34:55 | dwihno | Zagor - the code crusader! :D |
| 09:35:03 | dwihno | bohoo |
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| 09:36:49 | dwihno | Zagor: I had a nice crash last night when pressing 'next'. The LCD lit and then it locked. |
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| 09:37:00 | Bagder | hey L |
| 09:37:08 | LinusN | Zagor: do you have a player nearby? |
| 09:37:10 | LinusN | hey Bagder |
| 09:37:14 | dwihno | Try enabling multiple scrolling lines and ffw in a stream and you'll see pretty funky stuff too :) |
| 09:37:18 | dwihno | (recorder) |
| 09:39:21 | Zagor | LinusN: no |
| 09:39:27 | LinusN | sh*t |
| 09:39:44 | Zagor | ? |
| 09:40:09 | LinusN | the power_off() function doesn't work on the two players i have here at home |
| 09:40:24 | Zagor | ow |
| 09:41:29 | dwihno | :/ |
| 09:49:13 | dwihno | What's the address to the bug tracker? |
| 09:49:33 | Bagder | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=44306&atid=439118 |
| 09:49:38 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/bugs.shtml |
| 09:50:40 | dwihno | I'll add bugs ;D |
| 09:50:49 | dwihno | But they do not apply to the bleeding edge, huh? |
| 09:50:56 | LinusN | yes they do |
| 09:51:03 | LinusN | nowadays |
| 09:51:17 | dwihno | they do? :D Yay! |
| 09:51:20 | LinusN | just mention the exact version as told by meny->version |
| 09:51:38 | dwihno | I need to login to sourceforge to add a report? |
| 09:52:10 | Bagder | "If you have a Sourceforge account, log in before you file the report." |
| 09:52:16 | Bagder | "If you don't have a SF account, sign the report with your email." |
| 09:53:24 | LinusN | Zagor: do you use Bagders new num2max5() function for the disk info? |
| 09:53:33 | dwihno | heh |
| 09:53:34 | dwihno | mkay |
| 09:54:46 | dwihno | Anyone with a recorder who can verify my bug? |
| 09:55:03 | Zagor | LinusN: no, forgot about that one |
| 09:55:26 | Zagor | also, it doesn't handle >4G very well :-) |
| 09:55:51 | dwihno | I was thinking. What happens if you are recording and run out of disk space while recording? |
| 09:56:42 | LinusN | dwihno: it will probably crash :-) |
| 09:57:09 | dwihno | LinusN: Hey, you successfully implemented windows emulation with Rockbox - congrats ;D |
| 09:57:14 | dwihno | No one has a recorder nearby? |
| 09:57:42 | Zagor | write() simply fails when the disk is full |
| 09:57:52 | Zagor | dwihno: I do |
| 09:58:39 | LinusN | dwihno: i have too |
| 09:58:42 | dwihno | Zagor: Test if the scrolling lines start to twitch after ffw:ing in a stream |
| 09:58:57 | LinusN | "twitch"? |
| 09:59:19 | dwihno | yes |
| 09:59:32 | dwihno | Blahblah blah a blabla blah bleh bluh |
| 09:59:35 | dwihno | blah blah a blabla blah bleh bluh |
| 09:59:38 | DBUG | Sent KICK dwihno to server |
| 09:59:38 | dwihno | ahblah blah a blabla blah bleh bluh |
| 09:59:38 | Kick | (#rockbox dwihno :Stop repeating yourself) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
| 09:59:44 | Schnueff | heh |
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| 09:59:49 | dwihno | It will twitch |
| 09:59:52 | dwihno | You will see what I mean |
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| 10:01:44 | * | dwihno is awaiting some kind of reply ... :) |
| 10:04:19 | Zagor | i can't see any twitching |
| 10:05:03 | dwihno | you can't? |
| 10:05:08 | dwihno | I'll send you my WPS |
| 10:05:09 | dwihno | w8 |
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| 10:09:28 | Hadaka | gmorning! |
| 10:09:43 | Hadaka | hey Zagor, the harddrive poweroff thingy doesn't work :) |
| 10:09:51 | Zagor | :-( |
| 10:10:04 | Hadaka | but it doesn't crash |
| 10:10:08 | Hadaka | what happens is a bit odd |
| 10:10:54 | Hadaka | first it plays just fine - then after the first time it has to spin up the hd all by itself, it spins it up and the sound stops playing altogether - and then the sound is never resumed - the mp3 looks like it's still playing |
| 10:11:31 | dwihno | Zagor: fetch! :) |
| 10:11:40 | Zagor | dwihno: I can't dcc. i'm in a tunnel. |
| 10:11:54 | LinusN | Hadaka: check the debug->mpeg screen |
| 10:12:02 | Zagor | dwihno: mail it instead |
| 10:12:24 | Hadaka | ookay, booting this thing up |
| 10:12:24 | LinusN | Hadaka: forget that |
| 10:12:38 | LinusN | it won't help anyway |
| 10:12:56 | Hadaka | nah, I want to see what's up |
| 10:13:31 | Hadaka | hmmh weird |
| 10:14:04 | Hadaka | first the buffered amount goes lower than the lower water mark or whatever it is - it starts spinning up the HD |
| 10:14:30 | Hadaka | then it manages to read only a tiny bit, just enough to put it over the low water mark |
| 10:14:51 | LinusN | aha |
| 10:14:52 | Hadaka | and then the music stops |
| 10:14:57 | LinusN | interesting |
| 10:14:57 | Hadaka | and then it reads the buffer in full |
| 10:15:19 | LinusN | what says the Lowest value? |
| 10:15:29 | Hadaka | FFFC |
| 10:15:36 | LinusN | oh |
| 10:15:58 | LinusN | try to increase the low water mark, just to test |
| 10:16:06 | Hadaka | what do I press? |
| 10:16:23 | LinusN | mpeg.h |
| 10:16:27 | Hadaka | oh |
| 10:16:29 | Hadaka | ok |
| 10:16:30 | Zagor | hehe |
| 10:16:58 | Hadaka | #define MPEG_LOW_WATER 0x40000 |
| 10:16:58 | Hadaka | #define MPEG_LOW_WATER_CHUNKSIZE 0x40000 |
| 10:17:05 | LinusN | set it to 0x60000 |
| 10:17:20 | Hadaka | both or just the low water? |
| 10:17:57 | Hadaka | eg. do I adjust the low water chunksize as well? |
| 10:18:26 | LinusN | you can try that too |
| 10:18:53 | Hadaka | ok first I don't |
| 10:19:39 | dwihno | Zagor: *boing* - you got mail! |
| 10:20:11 | Hadaka | ok now the damn fat wait again |
| 10:20:22 | LinusN | hehe |
| 10:21:30 | Hadaka | now let's see |
| 10:22:26 | Hadaka | uhum, wonder if I did something worng, it didn't start the spin up earler |
| 10:23:00 | Zagor | I have a fix upcoming for "the damn fat wait" btw |
| 10:23:06 | LinusN | maybe "make clean"? |
| 10:23:29 | Hadaka | LinusN: don't tell me I would have to do that? I thought you had proper dependencies handling? |
| 10:23:31 | dwihno | Zagor: got mail? |
| 10:23:43 | Zagor | dwihno: haven't checked yet. still writing some other mail. |
| 10:23:52 | LinusN | Hadaka: it sometimes fails, and i don't know why |
| 10:24:02 | dwihno | Zagor: mkay |
| 10:24:05 | Hadaka | oh I'll make clean to be sure then |
| 10:24:07 | LinusN | Hadaka: and how do you see that it doesn't spin up earlier? |
| 10:24:28 | Hadaka | well I'm in the mpeg thread and the limit when it started doing stuff was still 0x40000 |
| 10:24:47 | LinusN | ok |
| 10:24:57 | LinusN | strange |
| 10:25:05 | Hadaka | what does the unswapped counter mean? |
| 10:25:23 | Hadaka | oh! swapping of the bytes after reading? |
| 10:25:24 | LinusN | it tells how much data that is left to bitswap |
| 10:25:30 | Hadaka | ah yes |
| 10:25:35 | LinusN | not byteswap |
| 10:25:37 | LinusN | bitswap |
| 10:25:42 | Hadaka | yeah, meant bitswap :) |
| 10:25:52 | Hadaka | forgot even that that had to be done |
| 10:26:37 | Hadaka | it was as if... it managed to read new stuff but not bitswap it before it was needed - and then stopped playing for some reason |
| 10:27:04 | LinusN | Hadaka: that is possible |
| 10:27:08 | Hadaka | gods I feel stupid! the reason why the low water mark was not updated |
| 10:27:21 | Hadaka | was that I didn't reboot this box at all since your usb mode is so nice :) |
| 10:27:27 | LinusN | haha! |
| 10:27:46 | LinusN | happened to me quite a few times too |
| 10:28:17 | Hadaka | now let's see |
| 10:28:52 | Hadaka | ha! works now |
| 10:29:02 | Hadaka | lowest 3e2e6 |
| 10:29:25 | Hadaka | now let's see where the unplayed jumps after the first hiccup |
| 10:29:28 | LinusN | Hadaka: try this: keep the water mark at 40000 and set chunk size to 0x10000 |
| 10:30:01 | LinusN | (chunk size is the amount it tries to read when below the mark) |
| 10:30:43 | Hadaka | the unplayed jumps to 87000 or so when it first starts reading - then falls to 77000 and sometime 67000 before it manages to read more and fill the buffer |
| 10:30:49 | LinusN | Hadaka: do you have a "lively" WPS, with lots of scrolling? |
| 10:31:02 | LinusN | Hadaka: bitrate? |
| 10:31:05 | Hadaka | I'm always in the mpeg thread these times |
| 10:31:06 | Hadaka | 256 |
| 10:32:28 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/features.html is long now |
| 10:33:18 | Zagor | i think "intuitive user interface" is a bit vague |
| 10:33:24 | Bagder | hehe, I agree |
| 10:33:59 | Zagor | also I'd like "fast playlist loading" to be something like "playlist load speed" instead, with a "songs / sec" value (about 3200 on my Recorder) |
| 10:34:21 | Hadaka | ok now we'll see again |
| 10:34:36 | Bagder | Zagor: then we need someone to load a playlist on the archos fw too |
| 10:34:54 | LinusN | and "low volume support" sounds silly, better with "ability to set really low volume" |
| 10:35:15 | Zagor | "high resolution volume setting" |
| 10:35:20 | LinusN | ah good |
| 10:35:22 | Bagder | feel free to adjust |
| 10:35:24 | Zagor | "high resolution volume control" even |
| 10:35:30 | Zagor | we prefer to complain :-) |
| 10:35:32 | LinusN | Bagder: the volume? :-) |
| 10:36:12 | dwihno | Zagor: 3200? How come? My recorder loads ~2000 per sec |
| 10:36:31 | Zagor | really? |
| 10:36:39 | Hadaka | the user interface might be intuitive - but it sure isn't too consistent |
| 10:37:00 | dwihno | Zagor: I'll double-check |
| 10:37:36 | Zagor | loading my 7165-file list, the display shows 1, 3167, 6009, 7165(end) |
| 10:37:50 | Zagor | so I guess it's more like 3000/sec than 3200/sec |
| 10:38:11 | Hadaka | ok so 60000 with 10000 chunksize worked fine |
| 10:38:20 | Hadaka | now seeing 40000 with 10000 chunksize |
| 10:38:33 | dwihno | My 4019 playlist show1 2390 4019 |
| 10:38:46 | Zagor | dwihno: what disk do you have? |
| 10:38:55 | dwihno | Zagor: I'll check the neato new feature stuff ;) |
| 10:38:59 | Zagor | hehe |
| 10:39:09 | Hadaka | 3e2d8 is the value where it starts spinning up the hd |
| 10:39:12 | dwihno | IC25N020ATCS04-0 |
| 10:39:15 | dwihno | Me thinks |
| 10:39:22 | Zagor | !? |
| 10:39:25 | Hadaka | 1e2d8 is the lowest value it hits |
| 10:39:31 | Zagor | dwihno: that's what it says? |
| 10:39:32 | Hadaka | then.. |
| 10:39:38 | dwihno | Zagor: think so |
| 10:39:57 | Zagor | dwihno: evil model name :) |
| 10:39:59 | Hadaka | unplayed jumps to 40000 and unswapped is 38000 and the music skips for a moment |
| 10:40:12 | Hadaka | and then the whole buffer is filled |
| 10:40:14 | Zagor | dwihno: that's an IBM travelstar 40 GN |
| 10:40:29 | Zagor | (three cheers for google) |
| 10:40:33 | dwihno | it is? |
| 10:40:34 | dwihno | hm |
| 10:40:36 | * | Bagder cheers one |
| 10:40:36 | Hadaka | so changing the chunksize to 10000 means that now it just skips every time, but no longer stops playing altogether |
| 10:40:52 | LinusN | Hadaka: ok, good, then 60000 is the solution |
| 10:41:04 | dwihno | Zagor: is that good or bad? |
| 10:41:09 | * | dwihno has NOT modded his archos |
| 10:41:13 | LinusN | Hadaka: try 60000/60000 |
| 10:41:14 | Hadaka | hm, I have FUJITSU MHN2200AT as a drive here |
| 10:41:16 | Zagor | dwihno: neither |
| 10:41:27 | Hadaka | LinusN: tried - and it worked |
| 10:41:32 | LinusN | Hadaka: we will add a dynamic watermark later on |
| 10:41:51 | dwihno | Zagor: So it's my disk that's slow? :( |
| 10:42:02 | dwihno | Linus promised me to help me swap my disk ;) |
| 10:42:05 | Zagor | of course IBM can't just write "IBM TRAVELSTAR 40GN" as model. nooooo, not ibm... |
| 10:42:12 | dwihno | :-) |
| 10:42:19 | LinusN | Zagor: can you add a poweron/spinup timing function in ata.c? |
| 10:42:28 | dwihno | Zagor: IBM is your friend! :) |
| 10:42:29 | Zagor | dwihno: might be a slow disk, or maybe you simply have much longer paths than I do |
| 10:42:30 | Hadaka | ok so what this means is that the disk is slower to spin up from poweroff - I wonder if draws more power as well? |
| 10:42:36 | Zagor | LinusN: ok |
| 10:42:40 | Hadaka | now it stopped entirely again! |
| 10:42:42 | LinusN | Hadaka: i don't think so |
| 10:42:53 | dwihno | Zagor: erhm, my paths are not really that long. |
| 10:43:06 | LinusN | Hadaka: with 60000/10000? |
| 10:43:14 | Hadaka | nah, with this 40000/10000 |
| 10:43:18 | Zagor | dwihno: i think 2000 is pretty normal. probably my Tosh is fast |
| 10:43:18 | LinusN | ok |
| 10:43:37 | dwihno | Zagor: Time to clock a buffer fill |
| 10:43:43 | dwihno | :-) |
| 10:44:13 | LinusN | Zagor: my playlist loading is about 3800/sec |
| 10:44:16 | dwihno | :O |
| 10:44:21 | Hadaka | so there is a bug in the playing that some buffer exhaustion thing can make the playing stop |
| 10:44:28 | dwihno | You have luxorious drives ppl! |
| 10:44:32 | LinusN | Hadaka: yes |
| 10:45:30 | Hadaka | so, what should the chunksize be? 10000, 40000 or 60000, if my low water mark is 60000? |
| 10:45:49 | LinusN | i think same as the watermark |
| 10:45:54 | Hadaka | nods |
| 10:46:07 | dwihno | LinusN: Did you get your drive using Zagor's supplier? |
| 10:46:23 | LinusN | yes, we have the same |
| 10:46:53 | LinusN | same drive, actually |
| 10:46:57 | dwihno | Can't you get me one? The stores in sweden only carry IBM's drives |
| 10:46:59 | dwihno | :-) |
| 10:48:22 | Hadaka | ok, I was mean and put 50000 to both, let's see :) |
| 10:48:49 | Hadaka | works! |
| 10:49:00 | LinusN | Hadaka: try 320kbit/s |
| 10:49:13 | Hadaka | don't think I have such beasts on my drive even |
| 10:49:54 | Hadaka | oh yes - once, just one, I've had a skip on these 256kbit MP3s without the harddrive poweroff thingy at all |
| 10:49:56 | LinusN | hehe, i call 256kbit files beasts :-) |
| 10:50:12 | Hadaka | well me too, lame −−r3mix forever |
| 10:50:33 | dwihno | lame -b192 -q0 forever ;D |
| 10:50:46 | Schnueff | forever = runtime? :) |
| 10:50:51 | LinusN | :-) |
| 10:52:26 | Hadaka | hey, where are the runtime values on this rockbox counted? from when you boot it up? |
| 10:52:55 | dwihno | Schnueff: haha, ya |
| 10:53:06 | Zagor | Hadaka: it's reset when you plug in the charger |
| 10:53:51 | Hadaka | gods, I seem to be wanting dynamic watermark more and more by the moment :) |
| 10:55:37 | Schnueff | maybe one could adjust the watermark with the average bitrate as a first try |
| 10:55:48 | Zagor | Schnueff: that, and the disk spinup time |
| 10:58:47 | Hadaka | I want resume to survive over usb-mode! ;) |
| 10:59:14 | Zagor | Hadaka: it does. just rolo the firmware again, and it'll ask for resume |
| 10:59:34 | Hadaka | ah! it did! |
| 10:59:45 | Hadaka | except that I don't use ask, I use 'yes' :) |
| 10:59:52 | Zagor | ah |
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| 11:00:25 | Hadaka | ...which reminds me that I should put in the keylock saving stuff |
| 11:01:20 | LinusN | ...which reminds me that we must make the remote control work when keys are locked |
| 11:02:17 | Hadaka | but now, off to work (and now I won't forget the usb cable) |
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| 11:07:59 | Mine78 | hi guys please is there someone who can help me with a serious problem with rockbox ? |
| 11:08:07 | Mine78 | Zagor or whoever |
| 11:08:08 | Mine78 | please |
| 11:08:10 | LinusN | no :-) |
| 11:08:14 | LinusN | hangs? |
| 11:08:15 | Mine78 | hi linusn |
| 11:08:17 | Mine78 | no |
| 11:08:26 | Mine78 | when I press the on button |
| 11:08:30 | Mine78 | it shut off |
| 11:08:38 | Mine78 | even when I connect to the usb |
| 11:08:41 | LinusN | sounds like battery problems |
| 11:08:43 | Zagor | yay |
| 11:08:48 | Mine78 | if I keep it pressed desn't work |
| 11:09:06 | Mine78 | if i keep pressed and then connect the DC adaptor it makes crr crr sounds |
| 11:09:10 | LinusN | check your battery connection |
| 11:09:11 | Bagder | anyone feels for some torture? load archos firmware and estimate playlist load speed in songs/sec! |
| 11:09:17 | Mine78 | and the HD red light doesn't turn on |
| 11:09:21 | LinusN | also try to replacve the batteries |
| 11:09:32 | LinusN | you may have a damaged cell |
| 11:09:37 | Mine78 | but even if I connect the adaptor ? |
| 11:09:44 | Mine78 | what's cell ? |
| 11:09:51 | LinusN | yes, the batteries are needed even with the dc adapter |
| 11:09:53 | Bagder | dwihno? ;-) |
| 11:09:56 | LinusN | cell == battery |
| 11:10:01 | Mine78 | I tell the story |
| 11:10:12 | Mine78 | I left the battery charging for almost 20 hours |
| 11:10:13 | LinusN | oh, "the story" |
| 11:10:20 | Mine78 | when I return home (eheheh yes the sotry) |
| 11:10:24 | Mine78 | the archos was a bit hot |
| 11:10:27 | LinusN | ...and then i left iot in the dishwasher |
| 11:10:31 | Mine78 | and it started to do that roblem |
| 11:10:38 | Mine78 | no |
| 11:10:43 | Mine78 | i keep it like a jewl ! |
| 11:10:48 | Mine78 | jewel |
| 11:10:50 | LinusN | Mine78: sounds like you have damaged a battery, yes |
| 11:10:56 | Mine78 | feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 11:11:06 | Mine78 | I supposed I amaged the archos |
| 11:11:13 | LinusN | i don't think so |
| 11:11:16 | Mine78 | what are the specifics pof the batteries ? |
| 11:11:21 | LinusN | try to replace the batteries |
| 11:11:35 | LinusN | 1.2V NiMh AA size |
| 11:11:42 | LinusN | 1500mAh or more |
| 11:11:52 | Mine78 | I can bought them everywhere, right ? |
| 11:11:57 | LinusN | almost |
| 11:12:17 | LinusN | not in the grocery store |
| 11:12:27 | Bagder | ok, I'll measure it myself |
| 11:12:42 | Mine78 | more mah = last more ? |
| 11:12:46 | LinusN | yes |
| 11:13:10 | Mine78 | maybe I overused them |
| 11:13:18 | Mine78 | ok thabk you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH ! |
| 11:13:29 | Mine78 | I go to buy them |
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| 11:14:18 | dwihno | Bagder: what? |
| 11:14:23 | Bagder | never mind |
| 11:14:55 | Bagder | I've created a 500-song playlist I'll now load with the archos fm |
| 11:14:57 | dwihno | Haha |
| 11:15:01 | dwihno | You thought that was me? :) |
| 11:15:07 | dwihno | I would pull off a greater scam :) |
| 11:16:19 | dwihno | Bagder: 500 songs? It will take 10 minutes to load it! |
| 11:16:57 | Bagder | take a guess how many songs/sec ? ;-) |
| 11:17:02 | Zagor | 10? |
| 11:17:04 | LinusN | 10? |
| 11:17:06 | Bagder | 20 |
| 11:17:09 | Zagor | haha |
| 11:17:11 | LinusN | hahahaaaaaaaaa |
| 11:17:20 | Zagor | 100x speed difference. is that much? ;) |
| 11:19:05 | dwihno | Nah |
| 11:19:11 | dwihno | Only a minor difference |
| 11:19:31 | Bagder | can't even remember when I last ran the archos fm |
| 11:23:02 | Bagder | my 500 song list took 27 secs to load |
| 11:23:09 | Bagder | is that pain or what |
| 11:24:16 | dwihno | Bagder: won't the RTC area get fux0red now when you use the archos firmware? |
| 11:25:06 | Bagder | yes, but not the config stored on fisk |
| 11:25:07 | LinusN | no |
| 11:25:15 | Bagder | no? |
| 11:25:17 | LinusN | no == it is resotred from disk |
| 11:25:17 | dwihno | no? |
| 11:25:24 | Bagder | ah, right |
| 11:25:30 | dwihno | It will get fux0red and then repaired :) |
| 11:25:33 | LinusN | yes |
| 11:28:36 | dwihno | :-) |
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| 11:40:23 | Hadaka | hmh |
| 11:40:31 | Hadaka | stopped playing three times on the way to work |
| 11:41:40 | Hadaka | so 60000/60000 is not good either |
| 11:41:48 | LinusN | :-( |
| 11:42:09 | Hadaka | but actually |
| 11:42:25 | Hadaka | explain me the low water chunksize again? |
| 11:42:32 | LinusN | seems like the ATA poweroff shouldn't be the default option... |
| 11:42:54 | Hadaka | not before atleast somewhat dynamic low water mark |
| 11:43:07 | LinusN | when the low watermark has been reached, it will read CHUNKSIZE large blocks from disk |
| 11:43:16 | LinusN | until the watermark is reached |
| 11:43:31 | LinusN | then it will read in as large chunks as the buffer allows |
| 11:43:53 | Hadaka | ok so it is as I expect |
| 11:44:20 | Hadaka | I'm pretty convinced that by lowering the chunksize but keeping the buffer at 60000 I can get good results |
| 11:44:52 | LinusN | Hadaka: it should probably correlate to the bitswap chunk size |
| 11:45:07 | Hadaka | the problem is that when I increase the chunksize, it will take longer to read that chunk, which means I should increase the low water mark again - and so on |
| 11:46:28 | LinusN | reading from the hard drive is fast |
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| 12:05:54 | Hadaka | hmm |
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| 12:06:06 | Hadaka | swap chunksize is 0x2000 |
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| 12:10:35 | LinusN | reading in 0x2000 chunks from the harddrive will take forever |
| 12:11:18 | Zagor | 0x20000 is more like it |
| 12:12:00 | LinusN | Zagor: not for the bitswap |
| 12:12:24 | Zagor | no, for the drive |
| 12:13:01 | LinusN | Zagor: the bitswap takes place once every loop in mpeg_thread |
| 12:13:19 | LinusN | so we want to do read, swap, read, swap, read, swap in equal amounts |
| 12:13:38 | dwihno | swapping while reading? |
| 12:13:41 | dwihno | Sounds not-so-optimal |
| 12:13:55 | LinusN | dwihno: only when below the watermark |
| 12:14:04 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/features.html now with playlist load speed |
| 12:14:10 | Zagor | Bagder: do you feel like moving the list from majordomo to mailman? manual bounce removal is driving me nuts. |
| 12:14:12 | dwihno | Linus: ah, then I'm with you :D |
| 12:14:37 | Bagder | Zagor: we might consider moving the list over to SF... |
| 12:14:37 | Zagor | those are nice numbers :-) |
| 12:14:50 | dwihno | btw, some of my mp3's are sounding fishy |
| 12:14:55 | dwihno | I'll check if they are brokej |
| 12:14:56 | dwihno | broken |
| 12:15:02 | Zagor | Bagder: yah we could |
| 12:15:13 | Bagder | Zagor: we could still offer the same mail address |
| 12:15:20 | Bagder | just redirect it over |
| 12:15:26 | Zagor | yup |
| 12:18:30 | dwihno | My kebab song sounds glitchy! :( |
| 12:18:38 | dwihno | Which sounds good on wintendo |
| 12:19:15 | Hadaka | hm, I wonder if I should go for 60000/40000 or 60000/20000 |
| 12:19:35 | dwihno | LinusN: You want a file for analysis? :) |
| 12:20:36 | LinusN | dwihno: dropouts? |
| 12:21:03 | dwihno | erhm, dropouts? |
| 12:21:15 | LinusN | short periods of silence |
| 12:21:18 | dwihno | yap |
| 12:21:31 | LinusN | that means that some frames have bad checksums |
| 12:21:55 | dwihno | they do? |
| 12:21:59 | LinusN | or it means that is was encoded with an encoder that doesn't generate checksums, but the checksum bit is set |
| 12:22:07 | dwihno | hm |
| 12:22:13 | dwihno | is there some kind of analysis tool to check that? |
| 12:22:16 | LinusN | i have heard of this problem before |
| 12:22:21 | LinusN | dwihno: i think so |
| 12:22:58 | LinusN | dwihno: winamp doesn't care about the checksum, but the MAS does |
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| 12:24:25 | dwihno | hmm |
| 12:29:07 | dwihno | Men vafanken, hittar inga juutils för ändamålet *morr* |
| 12:33:18 | LinusN | dwihno: VBRfix might do the job |
| 12:34:10 | Zagor | our font lacks the ¼ ½ ¾ characters |
| 12:34:18 | Zagor | bummer |
| 12:34:46 | LinusN | what do you need those for? |
| 12:34:58 | Zagor | my new keyboard code :-) |
| 12:35:15 | dwihno | LinusN: I don't think it's vbr |
| 12:35:21 | dwihno | LinusN: Or perhaps that does not really matter |
| 12:35:45 | LinusN | dwihno: it shouldn't matter in this case |
| 12:37:10 | dwihno | Hmm |
| 12:37:14 | dwihno | It crashed after 49% :) |
| 12:38:21 | LinusN | ok, something is bad in your file |
| 12:38:26 | dwihno | hehe |
| 12:38:29 | dwihno | naaah :) |
| 12:38:33 | dwihno | My kebab-låt! :( |
| 12:39:07 | dwihno | Får jag bjuuuda på en kebab, med starka såsen på |
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| 13:30:02 | dwihno | Just thought you should know |
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| 13:46:42 | Hadaka | hmh, I wonder what makes the powerup process take so much longer when the drive is totally powered off |
| 13:47:25 | Zagor | it doesn't take much longer for me. or at least I haven't noticed it |
| 13:47:43 | Hadaka | for me it is very noticeable |
| 13:48:00 | Hadaka | I wonder if it draws more power during that as well |
| 13:48:27 | Zagor | yeah, that would be interesting to know |
| 13:48:50 | Hadaka | anyway, if I manage to tune the low water marks and stuff so that these 256kbit mp3's play well, I'm going to leave this unit to play 192kbit mp3's for the night again and see what the playtime is after that |
| 13:49:08 | Hadaka | so I can tell you whether it went up or down from the change |
| 13:49:45 | Hadaka | can I measure the power expenditure without opening the archos up? |
| 13:50:36 | dwihno | My disk power up is fast |
| 13:51:40 | dwihno | Scroll speed should be configurable and not only the spacing |
| 13:51:53 | Hadaka | FUJITSU MHN2200AT <- my drive, not replaced |
| 13:52:10 | Zagor | dwihno: that will consume all cpu |
| 13:52:14 | Hadaka | dwihno: heh, I was bothered by the same thing :) |
| 13:53:37 | Hadaka | I'd like to lower the scroll frequency |
| 13:53:55 | dwihno | Zagor: then it should be documented |
| 13:54:33 | Hadaka | what would? |
| 13:54:41 | Hadaka | (consume all cpu, that is) |
| 13:54:58 | Zagor | increasing the scroll update frequency |
| 13:55:07 | dwihno | If you make it configurable, then you can choose |
| 13:55:22 | dwihno | Some people like to waste CPU |
| 13:55:29 | Hadaka | ah, well I'm only considered in decreasing it :) |
| 13:55:33 | dwihno | and Hadaka like to lower the frequency and have a higher pixel setting |
| 13:55:39 | LinusN | dwihno: wasting cpu means stopping playback |
| 13:55:41 | Zagor | I don't like when they waste my time with bug reports as a consequense... |
| 13:56:01 | dwihno | LinusN: brask? |
| 13:56:06 | Hadaka | I keep the contrast pretty low on my recorder - and with the refresh frequency it has right now, the text is almost unreadable |
| 13:56:44 | dwihno | Linus: So the speed is as fast as it gets now without stopping the decoding? |
| 13:56:56 | Zagor | Hadaka: ah, ok. i've only heard requests for more smooth scroll. sorry for assuming you wanted that :) |
| 13:58:23 | Hadaka | heh, apparently people are different :) |
| 13:58:31 | LinusN | dwihno: the speed is as fast as it gets without "compromising the user experience" :-) |
| 13:58:42 | dwihno | LinusN: Not good enough :) Gimme more ;-D |
| 13:59:26 | LinusN | if we increase the lcd update frequency we might get audio dropouts |
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| 14:00:41 | dwihno | I already have that on the kebabsång :( |
| 14:00:42 | dwihno | *sob* |
| 14:00:53 | dwihno | My precious! |
| 14:01:20 | dwihno | LinusN: how about configurability with a max and minimum value? |
| 14:01:21 | LinusN | dwihno, are you Gollum? :-) |
| 14:01:24 | dwihno | That way, Hadaka will be happy |
| 14:01:33 | dwihno | LinusN: I am Samwise :) |
| 14:01:40 | Zagor | Spamwise |
| 14:01:41 | dwihno | LinusN: I am galen ;D |
| 14:01:45 | dwihno | Zagor: hehu |
| 14:02:03 | Hadaka | hell, I'm happy with just modifying some constant somewhere ;) |
| 14:02:29 | LinusN | dwihno: sure, but i can't promise that we can get any faster than today |
| 14:02:43 | dwihno | LinusN: nah, but I'm willing to experiment to find a max value |
| 14:02:58 | LinusN | with 6 scrolls and a peak meter? |
| 14:03:00 | Zagor | LinusN: what is the state of recording right now? |
| 14:03:08 | dwihno | The best thing about rockbox is, you can configure everything |
| 14:03:09 | LinusN | Zagor: it should work |
| 14:03:18 | LinusN | but is bretty bare bones |
| 14:03:19 | Zagor | LinusN: so we want more testers? |
| 14:03:30 | dwihno | LinusN: I disregard the peak meter :) |
| 14:03:48 | LinusN | Zagor: yes, but i haven't done anything on it for over a week |
| 14:03:52 | dwihno | LinusN: I never use it, and I rather use CPU cycles to scroll smoother :-) |
| 14:04:09 | Hadaka | ok, now testing 60000/40000 |
| 14:04:54 | Hadaka | is the mp3 playing with a gap btw? |
| 14:05:21 | dwihno | LinusN: if the setting is high, then the speed setting could say "WARNING! this setting is too high for peak meter" |
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| 14:05:53 | Hadaka | you are not gnome2, just make it configurable and let the user shoot himself in the foot :) |
| 14:05:54 | LinusN | Hadaka: with a gap? |
| 14:06:18 | Hadaka | LinusN: as in, is there a gap between two mp3's or are they played seamlessly together? |
| 14:07:04 | Hadaka | gap being silence |
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| 14:09:06 | LinusN | seamlessly |
| 14:10:13 | Hadaka | goodie |
| 14:10:53 | Hadaka | hmh now this is looking good - testing while walking around soon |
| 14:11:30 | dwihno | :-) |
| 14:11:43 | dwihno | hm |
| 14:11:51 | dwihno | Is it really gapless? |
| 14:11:57 | dwihno | I'm gonna test with my evilness rip |
| 14:13:45 | dwihno | I hear a click |
| 14:14:12 | LinusN | dwihno: is it seamless with other mp3 players, winamp etc |
| 14:14:24 | dwihno | LinusN: it sure is |
| 14:14:41 | LinusN | which version of rockbox? |
| 14:14:46 | dwihno | bleeding edge |
| 14:15:05 | LinusN | can you publish 2 files for me? |
| 14:15:07 | dwihno | the click is for a split second only |
| 14:15:15 | dwihno | [track1|click|track2] |
| 14:15:17 | dwihno | no delays |
| 14:15:31 | dwihno | please wait |
| 14:15:44 | dwihno | kråkzoo (techno remix) ;) |
| 14:20:20 | dwihno | Zagor: any ideas about the WPS twitching? |
| 14:20:33 | kargatron | yeah, stop taking drugs |
| 14:20:49 | Zagor | dwihno: I haven't had time to test yet |
| 14:21:16 | dwihno | kargatron: hehu, en eskimu :) |
| 14:21:27 | dwihno | Zagor: ah, sorry for being impatient :) |
| 14:39:33 | Zagor | :) |
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| 14:42:26 | Bagder | rc5-72 is alive |
| 14:46:16 | LinusN | oh no |
| 14:46:50 | LinusN | so what are going to prove this time? |
| 14:47:02 | LinusN | that stupid people will never get smarter? |
| 14:47:40 | Bagder | that a bazillion computers can crack a crypto given enough years ;-) |
| 14:47:50 | LinusN | oh, this will take 7 years, i will run my silly cow until my very death |
| 14:48:03 | Bagder | of course |
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| 14:51:13 | Bagder | " There have been 558 participants |
| 14:51:13 | Bagder | since the beginning of this project." |
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| 15:28:24 | LinusN | hey zagor |
| 15:28:44 | LinusN | i received an email from a guy who has the same SLEEP problem as I have |
| 15:29:11 | Schnueff | hehe |
| 15:29:12 | LinusN | we should probably have an option: STANDBY, SLEEP, POWEROFF |
| 15:29:13 | Zagor | ok. tell him to try the latest daily |
| 15:29:22 | Schnueff | with sleep problems u should visit the doctor :) |
| 15:29:40 | Zagor | LinusN: why would anyone want SLEEP instead of POWEROFF ? |
| 15:29:55 | LinusN | maybe because the disk takes forever to spin up? |
| 15:30:01 | Zagor | does it? |
| 15:30:05 | LinusN | because of other problems maybe |
| 15:30:09 | LinusN | ask Hadaka |
| 15:30:39 | Bagder | nah, he just needs dynamic limits |
| 15:30:50 | Bagder | "just" |
| 15:31:03 | Zagor | we should try to solve the problems first, imho |
| 15:31:12 | Bagder | no one would know what to pick from SLEEP and STANDBY anyway |
| 15:31:12 | LinusN | still, is the poweroff feature worth it if we need to almost double the watermark level? |
| 15:31:22 | Zagor | yes |
| 15:31:40 | LinusN | Zagor: we still don't know if Players have the same problem |
| 15:31:48 | LinusN | they can't do poweroff |
| 15:31:55 | LinusN | as far as i have seen... |
| 15:31:56 | Zagor | we should make measurements, of course |
| 15:32:25 | Zagor | exactly. we don't know. so how would a standby option help them? |
| 15:33:45 | * | Bagder runs off |
| 15:33:49 | Hadaka | it would also seem that with poweroff, the unit is much more sensitive to skipping when walking with it |
| 15:34:00 | LinusN | Hadaka: really? |
| 15:34:03 | Hadaka | ofcourse that might be just because it has less time to load because of the watermark change |
| 15:34:22 | Hadaka | but still yes - now it's working just fine when I'm sitting still |
| 15:34:31 | Hadaka | but if I go walking, no bonus |
| 15:35:06 | Hadaka | can I measure the power expenditure without taking the unit apart again btw? |
| 15:35:42 | Zagor | yes. measure between two batteries |
| 15:36:07 | Hadaka | two batteries? not from end to end on the batteries? |
| 15:36:34 | Hadaka | or doesn't it matter? |
| 15:37:08 | Zagor | no, instert an ampere meter in the power circuit, i.e. between the + pole on one battery and the - pole on the next |
| 15:37:30 | Zagor | then the power will flow through the meter, and you will see how much |
| 15:37:31 | Hadaka | mm, yes |
| 15:37:45 | Hadaka | I might be able to check that tonight |
| 15:38:01 | Hadaka | and in any case, I will do the overnight timing to see if the battery life goes up or down from 12h |
| 15:46:05 | Zagor | good |
| 15:48:21 | Hadaka | and now I'm off to home |
| 15:48:28 | Zagor | bye |
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| 15:55:09 | botman | hey, when is Version 2.0 comming out? |
| 15:55:17 | Zagor | when it's ready |
| 15:55:37 | botman | I mean, how far are you into it? |
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| 15:56:09 | Zagor | pretty far. we need more testing of the recording feature |
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| 15:56:26 | botman | or, can you tell me what to expect other than recording? |
| 15:56:37 | kargatron | is recording the only criterion for "2.0"? |
| 15:56:41 | LinusN | sleep timer, better battery life... |
| 15:57:16 | botman | I put a bleeding edge from last night on my R15, the sleep timer works well |
| 15:57:38 | LinusN | great, but try with the charger attached :-) |
| 15:57:54 | botman | Is that in the BE for today? |
| 15:58:25 | LinusN | yes, it is fixed in the latest BE |
| 15:59:19 | kargatron | i definitely think the lead feature for v2.0 should be ID3 Year! :) |
| 15:59:30 | botman | how do you stop recording? |
| 15:59:39 | botman | I just started , but I can't stop |
| 15:59:57 | kargatron | bash your recorder on a hard surface 3 times |
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| 16:00:09 | kargatron | STOP should work, no? |
| 16:00:13 | kargatron | OFF i mean |
| 16:00:22 | botman | ok |
| 16:00:24 | botman | I did |
| 16:00:26 | botman | it stopped |
| 16:00:44 | kargatron | you mean bashing it 3 times? :) |
| 16:00:44 | botman | there is no way to make the name of the file is thier? |
| 16:00:52 | botman | no |
| 16:00:53 | kargatron | not atm |
| 16:01:06 | kargatron | no text input interface |
| 16:01:16 | Zagor | i'm adding that *right now* |
| 16:01:21 | botman | cool |
| 16:02:07 | botman | Zagor, how long did it take you to learn all this "code"? |
| 16:02:27 | Zagor | learn? I didn't learn it, I wrote it... |
| 16:02:59 | kargatron | Zagor, you're adding text interface? was that a patch from a while back? don't remember recent design discussion, though it was up in air |
| 16:03:17 | Zagor | kargatron: it's loosely based on the code John Wood submitted |
| 16:04:43 | botman | one suggestion that a lot of people would like, is if you could implement more games into rockbox. Play music and games at the same time is cool. Like, put that "more games for rockbox" patch into a bleeding edge, and let people try it. I'm shure it would take only 5min to put that patch on. |
| 16:05:10 | botman | and compile it |
| 16:05:16 | Zagor | botman: that will come. we just need to fix a plugin system, so we don't need to have all the games in memory at the same time |
| 16:05:24 | botman | oh |
| 16:05:58 | botman | what is your status is firmware size? It there a max size? |
| 16:06:24 | Zagor | the problem is how much memory is left for mp3 data. less free memory means less battery life |
| 16:06:56 | botman | since rockbox only has 2mb memory, how much have you used so far? |
| 16:07:00 | kargatron | i think 6 hrs is plenty for those stupid music listeners!!! |
| 16:07:13 | Zagor | we always use all of it |
| 16:07:19 | Zagor | kargatron: lol |
| 16:07:27 | Zagor | i've gotta run. see you later! |
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| 16:07:51 | botman | have you ever noticed the high pitch noise when recording from the microphone? |
| 16:08:03 | botman | it seems like it is comming from the hard drive |
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| 16:09:12 | botman | kargatron, are you a developer, or have you made any pathces |
| 16:09:37 | kargatron | i'm a perl developer, don't know C from a pimple on bush's butt. :) |
| 16:09:45 | kargatron | so to help, i help tidy the feature requests. |
| 16:09:58 | kargatron | never recorded, sorry |
| 16:10:17 | botman | oh, so you like manage the web-site? |
| 16:10:29 | kargatron | no, i just mark dupes, help classify them, etc |
| 16:10:47 | botman | perl is like html? |
| 16:10:50 | kargatron | the fact that the feature requests are broken in several categories was muchly me |
| 16:10:59 | kargatron | perl is a a regular language |
| 16:11:02 | kargatron | html is a format |
| 16:11:16 | botman | perl is for linux, I assume? |
| 16:11:39 | kargatron | perl runs on windows too |
| 16:12:30 | kargatron | i'm sure there are many perl faqs out there if you're curious. :) |
| 16:13:10 | botman | hey, when zagor said he needed to fix, the plugin system, what does he mean by that? |
| 16:13:31 | LinusN | botman: the noise comes from the hard drive, yes |
| 16:13:38 | LinusN | and there is nothing we can do about it |
| 16:13:50 | botman | btw, that noise is frikin annoying |
| 16:13:56 | botman | I know |
| 16:14:00 | LinusN | use an external mic |
| 16:14:26 | botman | Can you plug a mic, into the line in? |
| 16:14:38 | LinusN | not directly, but viua a mic amplifier |
| 16:14:58 | botman | what is the Digital in/out used for? Like minidisk? |
| 16:15:03 | LinusN | yup |
| 16:15:07 | LinusN | S/PDIF |
| 16:15:52 | botman | i hate the fact that archos doesn't give you a remote with the jukebox |
| 16:16:00 | botman | you have to buy it instead |
| 16:16:07 | botman | thats retarded |
| 16:17:04 | botman | got to go |
| 16:17:11 | botman | thanks- cya |
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| 16:31:13 | dwihno | La la la! |
| 16:31:25 | dwihno | Dansa med oss, klappa era händer |
| 16:31:32 | dwihno | Gör som vi gör, ta några steg åt vänster |
| 16:31:37 | dwihno | Lyssna och lär, missa inte chansen |
| 16:31:45 | dwihno | Nu är vi här med CARAMELL-DANSEN |
| 16:46:01 | Hadaka | now how the hell will I be able to get these things in here so I can measure the current |
| 16:46:21 | Hadaka | ha! idea! |
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| 16:59:00 | Hadaka | ookay |
| 16:59:52 | Hadaka | unless someone comes up with a good idea how I manage insert the amper meter into the power circuit, I'm not going to measure the power expenditure today |
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| 17:01:25 | kargatron | batteries don't offer enough room per zagor's idea? |
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| 17:08:47 | LinusN | Hadaka: i use to put a piece of tape between the batteries, and insert the probes in between |
| 17:09:11 | Hadaka | tried that but it was a _pain_ to get them to connect and I couldn't get the setup stable |
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| 17:19:36 | Hadaka | yahh! made it! |
| 17:19:39 | Hadaka | now let's see |
| 17:22:10 | Hadaka | hmmh, the gauge on this thing doesn't seem to look right at all, it's as if this plug is fixed to being 10A DC |
| 17:22:50 | Hadaka | ok, let's work on that |
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| 17:50:36 | Orby | hey peeps and LinusN |
| 17:50:41 | LinusN | yo |
| 17:50:44 | * | Orby is the artist formerly known as gschaefer |
| 17:50:53 | LinusN | :-) |
| 17:51:06 | Orby | how goes? |
| 17:51:10 | Orby | get your unit to turn off? |
| 17:51:12 | * | Orby is listening to Christopher Lawrence - Sign of the Sun (headphones)''8 |
| 17:51:19 | LinusN | no :-( |
| 17:51:35 | Orby | see what u get for not going with the small screen player like mine! <g> |
| 17:52:29 | Orby | I'm downloading the sh compiler now |
| 17:52:39 | Orby | took a long time to get the email from the site |
| 17:54:08 | LinusN | Orby: it's the players i have problems with |
| 17:54:16 | LinusN | email? |
| 17:54:33 | LinusN | you mean the mailing list? |
| 17:54:52 | Orby | yeah, had to sign up on the download site before I could download that compiler for SH |
| 17:54:54 | Orby | GNUH8 v0203 Windows Tool Chain (ELF Format) |
| 17:55:16 | LinusN | h8? |
| 17:55:28 | Orby | hate? |
| 17:55:34 | Orby | no, me not hating today |
| 17:55:37 | Orby | that was me yesterday |
| 17:56:19 | Orby | oh wait, you mean the H8 in GNUh8 |
| 17:57:08 | Orby | dang d/l'd the wrong one! |
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| 17:57:10 | Orby | thanks! |
| 17:59:14 | LinusN | should be sh1 |
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| 18:00:31 | Zagor | smile guys, you're on tv! ;) |
| 18:00:33 | Orby | yeah, I see that (now) |
| 18:00:43 | * | Orby is download the RIGHT one now |
| 18:00:56 | Orby | so what kinds of music do u like? |
| 18:01:07 | LinusN | almost everything |
| 18:01:18 | LinusN | it depends on the mood |
| 18:01:25 | Orby | teevee? |
| 18:01:37 | Orby | wot's dat? |
| 18:01:49 | Orby | oh dat's the thing my UltimateTV records stuff off of! |
| 18:01:58 | Orby | u like christopher lawrence (dj) |
| 18:02:02 | Bagder | TV! ;-) |
| 18:02:13 | Orby | dance music? |
| 18:02:15 | * | Bagder returns |
| 18:02:33 | Orby | his new cd is rawkin |
| 18:03:01 | Orby | what tv? |
| 18:03:16 | Orby | me no see no tv here |
| 18:03:32 | Bagder | Zagor is having guys from a local TV station visiting him today |
| 18:03:58 | * | LinusN combs his hair :-) |
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| 18:05:17 | Zagor | yup, they're making a spot about my aparment swapping site |
| 18:05:52 | Zagor | it's airing tomorrow. everybody get glued to their sets! ;) |
| 18:06:10 | Bagder | hey, you need to tape it |
| 18:06:51 | Zagor | yeah, I will |
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| 18:10:07 | Zagor | screen shots now. smiiiile! :-) |
| 18:10:32 | * | Bagder grins |
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| 18:15:03 | quelsaruk | hi! |
| 18:15:57 | Bagder | hola |
| 18:16:38 | quelsaruk | buenas tardes Bagder :) |
| 18:16:55 | Bagder | gracias |
| 18:17:21 | quelsaruk | i think you miss Nerja :) |
| 18:17:27 | Bagder | hehe |
| 18:27:12 | LinusN | quelsaruk: thanks for the flowers!!! |
| 18:27:28 | quelsaruk | you got them? |
| 18:27:31 | LinusN | today |
| 18:27:34 | quelsaruk | mision impossible III |
| 18:27:36 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 18:27:46 | LinusN | Sara was pretty surprised |
| 18:27:50 | LinusN | me too |
| 18:27:52 | quelsaruk | hahaha |
| 18:27:55 | Bagder | hehe, you rock quelsaruk |
| 18:28:08 | LinusN | i had to think....who is Jose Maria...? |
| 18:28:17 | LinusN | then i saw the card |
| 18:28:44 | quelsaruk | well, linus i couldn't tell you :) that's why i wanted zagor |
| 18:28:51 | quelsaruk | spanish rockbox friend |
| 18:28:53 | LinusN | hehe |
| 18:28:53 | quelsaruk | :P |
| 18:29:05 | quelsaruk | i forgot your adress |
| 18:29:08 | quelsaruk | address |
| 18:29:13 | LinusN | thanks a lot, that warmed |
| 18:29:25 | quelsaruk | it's the less i can do |
| 18:33:46 | LinusN | adiamas sent us a get-well card the other day |
| 18:34:09 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 18:34:14 | quelsaruk | that's great :) |
| 18:35:11 | Hadaka | what's the hard-drive when it's not totally of - sleeping or standby? |
| 18:35:37 | Zagor | sleeping |
| 18:35:58 | Hadaka | ok - writing a mail about my findings to the list |
| 18:36:46 | Zagor | ok |
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| 19:01:11 | Hadaka | posted |
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| 19:10:54 | Hadaka | ooh, I like svn+ext:// |
| 19:10:56 | Hadaka | whops |
| 19:13:53 | quelsaruk | ¿? |
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| 19:30:03 | PhantomDJP | HELP ! |
| 19:30:12 | PhantomDJP | how to use the new keybord ? |
| 19:30:22 | PhantomDJP | the virtual keybord, sure |
| 19:30:24 | LinusN | i don't know :-) |
| 19:30:30 | PhantomDJP | really ? |
| 19:31:18 | PhantomDJP | "Added virtual keyboard for text input" |
| 19:31:42 | LinusN | Zagor did that |
| 19:31:47 | PhantomDJP | yes |
| 19:31:50 | LinusN | i don't think it is in use yet |
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| 19:32:42 | PhantomDJP | but it is in the new daily, so there is a way to use it, isn't it ? |
| 19:35:09 | PhantomDJP | sniff |
| 19:36:07 | LinusN | no, i think only the code for they keyboard entry is added |
| 19:36:13 | LinusN | no use for it yet |
| 19:36:23 | LinusN | we will use it for filename entry later on |
| 19:36:48 | PhantomDJP | sniff |
| 19:37:00 | PhantomDJP | Putain de merde |
| 19:37:05 | PhantomDJP | fait chier |
| 19:37:08 | PhantomDJP | sorry |
| 19:38:31 | LinusN | PhantomDJP: what did you want to use it for? |
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| 19:39:05 | PhantomDJP | rename recorded mp3, filename, folders, and co |
| 19:39:48 | quelsaruk | i think it's supposed to be used for that |
| 19:39:52 | quelsaruk | but not yet |
| 19:40:18 | PhantomDJP | arf, so, s y s |
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| 20:06:25 | Mine78 | I LOVE YOU ALL ! I SOLVED THE PROBLEM CHANGING THE BATTERIES ! |
| 20:06:30 | Mine78 | THANK YOU ! |
| 20:06:35 | Mine78 | Probably one of them was faulty ! |
| 20:06:38 | Mine78 | I will check ! |
| 20:06:43 | Mine78 | with a tester |
| 20:06:51 | Mine78 | hoping to find the non-working one |
| 20:06:59 | Mine78 | I don't think all 4 batteries went bad ! |
| 20:07:57 | Mine78 | thanx to Zagor and LinusN |
| 20:08:16 | quelsaruk | LinusN: you have another fan :) |
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| 20:09:48 | Mine78 | How much does a 1.2V 1800 millampere costs in your coiuntry ? There costs 6 dollar ! |
| 20:10:07 | LinusN | for one battery? |
| 20:10:17 | Mine78 | yes |
| 20:10:20 | Mine78 | just arrived |
| 20:10:21 | LinusN | wow |
| 20:10:36 | Mine78 | 6 Euros = ~ 6 dollars |
| 20:11:06 | Mine78 | how much do you pay them ? |
| 20:12:38 | LinusN | i din't remember |
| 20:12:47 | LinusN | maybe 4-5 i think |
| 20:12:53 | Mine78 | 1.600 milliampere 4 dollars |
| 20:13:30 | Mine78 | but how a battery can break-down ? |
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| 20:18:37 | quelsaruk | hi Bagder |
| 20:18:41 | Bagder | rehi |
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| 21:22:37 | Bagder | time to run off |
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| 22:34:13 | adi|sleep | pssst zagor? |
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