| 00:00:34 | LinusN | paulheu: does this happen every time you record? |
| 00:00:38 | paulheu | hmmm ok.. but you feel changing to 44 should not make much difference? |
| 00:00:45 | LinusN | not sure |
| 00:00:55 | paulheu | It has for the last two weeks yes |
| 00:01:05 | LinusN | i don't think the MAS is to blame |
| 00:01:28 | LinusN | it must be that something CPU intensive happens at that point in time |
| 00:01:34 | paulheu | ok. It first happened monday last week to be exact |
| 00:01:35 | LinusN | or at a certain size |
| 00:01:56 | LinusN | can you see anything specific on the display/led? |
| 00:02:32 | paulheu | nope.. there is no indication something is wrong.. |
| 00:03:05 | LinusN | paulheu: daily build december 2? |
| 00:03:06 | paulheu | not that I paid much attention to it |
| 00:03:56 | paulheu | current is 021209-1642 that's what I used monday |
| 00:10:00 | paulheu | It just might be that ATA poweroff was enabled.. but I'm not sure. I will try with it both on and off later.. |
| 00:10:34 | paulheu | Also could ATA poweroff be disabled by default when the adapor is plugged in? or am I rambleing here? |
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| 00:11:54 | LinusN | paulheu: the intention is to make ata poweroff stable, so i don't see the point of disabling it at all when we finally get it working flawlessly |
| 00:12:46 | paulheu | ok.. But I'll leave it disables for now to see what happens.. |
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| 00:17:19 | paulheu | I'm outta here.. gotta get some sleep..;) |
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| 00:17:29 | LinusN | it fails at exactly 28:17 |
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| 01:05:55 | BoD[] | hello !! |
| 01:06:20 | LinusN | hi |
| 01:07:29 | BoD[] | sava?:) |
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| 01:09:21 | LinusN | ca va bien merci, et vous? |
| 01:09:45 | BoD[] | :) i'm allright |
| 01:10:04 | BoD[] | just watched billy eliot... it was cool |
| 01:10:41 | LinusN | billy eliot? |
| 01:11:20 | BoD[] | it's that british movie about a young boy that wants to be a dancer |
| 01:11:55 | LinusN | oh |
| 01:12:07 | BoD[] | http://us.imdb.com/Title?0249462 |
| 01:12:22 | BoD[] | 7.8/10 :)) |
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| 01:32:30 | elinenbe | "But father, I just want to dance" |
| 01:33:09 | BoD[] | ;) |
| 01:38:30 | elinenbe | LinusN: what is in the Rockbox crystal ball? |
| 01:38:48 | elinenbe | LinusN: do you know anyone who DJs with Archos recorders? |
| 01:41:17 | LinusN | elinenbe: i heard about a guy with two recorders in a case, for dj:ing |
| 01:41:45 | LinusN | elinenbe: we are working on the recording among other things |
| 01:42:13 | LinusN | playlist generation, queues |
| 01:43:15 | elinenbe | LinusN: once those two last things are implemented, then Rockbox will include everything the original firmware had... |
| 01:44:04 | elinenbe | I think it would be a great idea to have a current "play field" of directory and "current directory + subdirectory" |
| 01:44:20 | elinenbe | if you chose the latter, then the archos would create a playlist on the fly... |
| 01:45:28 | LinusN | play field? |
| 01:45:47 | elinenbe | well, the realm of what you want to play... |
| 01:46:00 | elinenbe | I am having a hard time trying to explain it. |
| 01:46:12 | elinenbe | what I mean is you know how there is shuffle on/off |
| 01:46:20 | LinusN | ok, you select a list of directories to play? |
| 01:46:22 | elinenbe | repeat 1/all/off |
| 01:46:48 | elinenbe | well now there is also, "current directory"/"current directory + all sub directories" |
| 01:46:53 | elinenbe | for recursive playing. |
| 01:47:15 | elinenbe | and when you choose, "current directory"/"current directory + all sub directories" , it makes a playlist on the fly and then loads it. |
| 01:47:37 | elinenbe | so, if I had directories like: U2/ |
| 01:47:40 | elinenbe | with nothing in it |
| 01:47:46 | elinenbe | and U2/Boy |
| 01:47:51 | elinenbe | and U2/Joshua Tree |
| 01:47:55 | elinenbe | and U2/October |
| 01:48:06 | elinenbe | and went into U2/ |
| 01:48:25 | elinenbe | I could choose recursive/shuffle on/repeat all |
| 01:48:59 | elinenbe | and it would play all three albums shuffled and repeated! |
| 01:51:19 | elinenbe | there! |
| 01:51:46 | elinenbe | who in their right mind would buy this: http://www.neurosaudio.com/ ? |
| 01:52:09 | elinenbe | when you can get an archo 20 gig recorder with USB 2.0 for under $200! THAT is insane! |
| 01:53:46 | BoD[] | I guess playlist generation means beeing able to play a whole directory (recursively) without having to make a playlist (on the computer) first |
| 01:54:19 | LinusN | BoD[]: yup |
| 01:54:32 | BoD[] | so that's perfect :) |
| 01:55:04 | BoD[] | well after that we may need a playlist browser |
| 01:57:00 | BoD[] | anyway i have to go to bed :) see you buy |
| 01:57:15 | elinenbe | night. |
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| 01:57:38 | elinenbe | LinusN: what do you think about Archos including ROckbox with the product? |
| 01:59:30 | elinenbe | the new 1850mAh batteries kick ass! http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM |
| 01:59:38 | LinusN | i think it's flattering, but i think they could have been a little more cooperative by giving us documentation |
| 01:59:55 | LinusN | we asked for it, but they are silent (again) |
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| 02:00:12 | LinusN | we gave them a week to respond |
| 02:00:17 | elinenbe | well, I am sure they take a while to answer their emails... OH! |
| 02:00:19 | elinenbe | forget that. |
| 02:00:44 | elinenbe | Who emailed you exactly... joe blow secretary, or an engineer? |
| 02:03:01 | LinusN | the product manager of Archos Products |
| 02:03:07 | LinusN | in france |
| 02:04:21 | elinenbe | well, who knows who he would even speak to? |
| 02:04:43 | elinenbe | it seems that there is a lot of burecratic bullshit at that company. |
| 02:06:25 | LinusN | i wouldn't know about that, i've never been in touch with them before |
| 02:07:35 | elinenbe | well, from what I have heard, requests to the company, even to customer service can be lost in the wind. VERY EASILY! |
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| 02:12:50 | adi|work | anyone remember offhand wha the cli command is to allow remote gui access to your box? |
| 02:12:58 | adi|work | its somehting for X permissions... |
| 02:13:38 | LinusN | xhost +[hostname] |
| 02:13:49 | adi|work | ahha.. thanks.. damn its been a while |
| 02:18:36 | LinusN | ooops, gotta reboot |
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| 02:56:37 | MrSnazz | found out the answer to the "mystery" of the black-trim jukeboxen. |
| 02:57:06 | MrSnazz | archos sells 15gb models in black, but they also made 20gb black trim models and sell those only through BestBuy |
| 02:57:09 | LinusN | and it is... |
| 02:57:16 | LinusN | aha |
| 02:57:23 | MrSnazz | at first they denied that they made any at all :) |
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| 03:02:52 | LinusN | :-) |
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| 03:07:01 | MrSnazz | anybody here built rockbox under windows? Followed the directions on the site, but hit a snag :-/ |
| 03:11:28 | LinusN | i've never done it |
| 03:11:41 | LinusN | tell me about your problem |
| 03:12:05 | MrSnazz | Here's what happens.. |
| 03:12:20 | MrSnazz | demo_menu.c: In function `demo_menu': |
| 03:12:20 | MrSnazz | demo_menu.c:47: `LANG_BOUNCE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 03:12:33 | MrSnazz | occurs for LANG_BOUNCE, LANG_SNOW, LANG_OSCILLOGRAPH, and LANG_CUBE |
| 03:14:02 | MrSnazz | this is while doing a 'make -f win32.mak' |
| 03:17:38 | MrSnazz | I think there is a missing step not in the howto on the site |
| 03:17:47 | MrSnazz | which converts the LANG_XXX into the proper value from the .lang file |
| 03:18:09 | LinusN | first of all, are you using cygwin? |
| 03:18:16 | MrSnazz | nope |
| 03:18:34 | LinusN | you should |
| 03:18:38 | MrSnazz | probably |
| 03:18:46 | LinusN | saves you some trouble |
| 03:18:50 | MrSnazz | I'd imagine so |
| 03:18:51 | MrSnazz | ;) |
| 03:18:58 | MrSnazz | I'll get it. |
| 03:19:09 | LinusN | remember to get a full install |
| 03:19:18 | MrSnazz | thanks |
| 03:19:31 | MrSnazz | so this LANG_XXX conversion probably happens in the configure script, I'd imagine |
| 03:19:43 | LinusN | it is done in the makefile |
| 03:19:49 | LinusN | when you build |
| 03:19:59 | MrSnazz | hrm |
| 03:20:00 | LinusN | but i don't know if win32.mak is up to date |
| 03:20:03 | MrSnazz | ah |
| 03:20:12 | LinusN | almost nobody uses it... |
| 03:20:16 | MrSnazz | figures. |
| 03:20:21 | MrSnazz | I'll build under linux then. Thanks ;) |
| 03:26:18 | elinenbe | cygwin is really nice to use. |
| 03:26:29 | elinenbe | forget that win32 stuff... |
| 03:26:42 | elinenbe | I compile under win2k with cygwin with ease. |
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| 03:28:02 | DotcuM | rockbox doesnt work in jb fm recorder right? |
| 03:28:30 | MrSnazz | the FAQ says nope |
| 03:28:42 | LinusN | DotcuM: no, not yet |
| 03:28:59 | LinusN | we need someone to take it apart and examine it |
| 03:29:03 | DotcuM | ah |
| 03:29:09 | LinusN | none of the rockbox developers own one |
| 03:29:48 | LinusN | and it seems to use a different scrambling algorithm for the AJZ file |
| 03:29:56 | DotcuM | well ill be looking forward to when you guys release it for fm recorder, if you ever do =) |
| 03:30:11 | LinusN | DotcuM: you have one? |
| 03:30:14 | DotcuM | yes |
| 03:30:51 | LinusN | is the archos firmware crappy on that one too? |
| 03:30:53 | DotcuM | i told 2 of my friends which have the normal recorder about the site and now it will be me that wont have the rockbox ;) |
| 03:31:07 | DotcuM | yah |
| 03:31:20 | DotcuM | dont know how crappy is the one from the recorder |
| 03:31:30 | DotcuM | but there are still features that this firmware doesnt have |
| 03:31:35 | DotcuM | like full shuffle |
| 03:31:44 | DotcuM | or easier playlist creator |
| 03:35:09 | DotcuM | really wanted to test the game part of the rockbox |
| 03:36:32 | DotcuM | do you guys know of any other group of people that are creating other firmwares for archos jukeboxes? |
| 03:37:36 | LinusN | no |
| 03:38:10 | LinusN | i *really* need some sleep |
| 03:38:21 | LinusN | it's 3:40am over here |
| 03:38:38 | DotcuM | bah its still early ;) |
| 03:38:46 | LinusN | :-) |
| 03:38:48 | LinusN | nite |
| 03:38:50 | DotcuM | nite |
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| 04:18:22 | FreakyFlo | hey! quick question - has anyone experienced the problem (with the original JB6k 4.53) where MP3 playback stops prematurely while being powered by batteries, but not when plugged in? I am using Rockbox 1.4.. |
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| 05:48:07 | Artine | Hey all. I'm trying to build the UISim, but I've got two problems. First, the file keysym.h doesn't exist, but button-x11.c seems to need it, and 2, a lot of the files use the directory X11 isntead of x11. I can change it, but this mixed case surprises me. Am I missing something? |
| 05:53:11 | adi|home | umm why would it use x11? |
| 05:53:56 | Artine | Because the file tree has uisimulator/x11 rather than uisimulator/X11 |
| 05:55:54 | adi|home | well 1. keysym.. that a system file.. |
| 05:56:03 | adi|home | if you don't have it.. thats your machine.. |
| 05:56:25 | adi|home | and i don't get what you mean by " a lot of the files use the directory X11 isntead of x11" |
| 05:59:14 | Artine | Okay, well, actually, your answer about keysym answered my question about the X11 issue. ::feels stupid and runs off to investigate why his system wouldn't have those files:: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction :-) |
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| 06:08:00 | adi|home | Artine: no prob :) |
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| 07:13:52 | Artine | Can I use the simulator to test out new binaries of the firmware before putting them on the Archos? |
| 07:14:02 | adi|home | no |
| 07:14:06 | adi|home | well.. yes and no |
| 07:14:15 | adi|home | yes if you are testing code and compile it into the sim |
| 07:14:18 | adi|home | thats why its there |
| 07:14:29 | adi|home | no if you want to dl a .ajz off the web and run it on the sim |
| 07:14:44 | adi|home | ie: compiled code _for_ the players/rec won't work for the sim |
| 07:14:56 | adi|home | like compiling for windows vs linux or mac |
| 07:15:02 | Artine | adi|work: Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. I was hoping that as I made the small changes I wanted I could test it without having to rebuild the sim−−seeing as I can't get it built ;-). |
| 07:15:17 | adi|home | heheh |
| 07:15:24 | adi|home | why can't you get it to build? |
| 07:15:45 | Artine | adi|home: Gotcha. |
| 07:15:56 | adi|home | what is the build failure you're getting |
| 07:16:19 | Artine | adi|home: Because it seems the dev libraries for X were never installed. The primary error I'm getting is that various files don't exist. |
| 07:16:37 | adi|home | ahh.. grab them and install them... |
| 07:16:53 | adi|home | let me know what ones you need and ill see if i can tar them up for you and dcc them to you |
| 07:17:31 | Artine | adi|home: Well, I'm not sure what I need yet. I still have more research to do to figure this out. I'm an old-school programmer. This new-fangled X11 stuff leaves me befuddled. |
| 07:17:40 | Artine | adi|work: Give me a console and I'm happy. :-) |
| 07:18:11 | adi|home | hehe |
| 07:18:13 | adi|home | good enough... |
| 07:18:33 | adi|home | do a compile.. and email me a dump of the console |
| 07:18:37 | adi|home | and ill get you what files i can |
| 07:19:00 | Artine | adi|home: Hold on just a second, let me make sure it's in a state where a dump would be meaningful. I'm messing around with all sorts of things. |
| 07:22:05 | Artine | adi|home: Yeah, it seems to be informative, but I worry that if I just grab those files that I need rather than the whole library I'll be screwing myself over later. I think I'll go find out what development libraries are available for X first, and then come back to you if I can't learn anything useful. |
| 07:22:29 | adi|home | sounds good enough :) |
| 07:23:28 | Artine | adi|home: Holy crap... There are thousands of devlibs for X... Err, any idea which one(s) the Rockbox UI sim uses...? |
| 07:24:15 | MrSnazz | I'm trying to build gcc to use for sh1, as per the directions on the rockbox site |
| 07:24:41 | MrSnazz | getting an error at the very end.. configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 07:25:33 | Artine | MrSnazz: I had that problem, too, but it works nonetheless. |
| 07:25:45 | Artine | MrSnazz: By that point, the files you already need have been built. |
| 07:25:59 | Artine | MrSnazz: Just go on to the next step. |
| 07:26:25 | MrSnazz | thanks |
| 07:26:32 | MrSnazz | I was just about to try that, figured it couldn't hurt :) |
| 07:29:43 | MrSnazz | woo, that works perfectly. Thanks! |
| 07:31:35 | Artine | adi|home: Nevermind, I found the library that has what I need. Thank god for rpmfind. |
| 07:48:08 | Artine | adi|home: Ahhh..... Built. Finally. |
| 07:48:20 | Artine | adi|home: Now to start throwing in those few things I wanted to add. |
| 07:48:27 | Artine | adi|home: Thanks for your help. |
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| 09:21:42 | adi|home | zagor.. what are the chances of getting a poll on the front page of the website? |
| 09:21:54 | adi|home | to find out 'Did you buy your Archos unit because of Rockbox?' |
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| 09:23:29 | Zagor | A poll might be fun for us, but not very useful in the big picture. |
| 09:23:52 | Zagor | I'm more thinking about encouraging the people who bought an Archos because of us, to say that to Archos. |
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| 09:24:26 | bobTHC | yo!! |
| 09:25:39 | adi|home | oh i agree.. but it would still be neat to find out |
| 09:34:16 | Zagor | yeah it would. actually, the sf page has a survey engine we could use. |
| 09:34:25 | hardeep | some more queue function ugliness: what would you expect if you request the previous song in the middle of your queued songs? |
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| 09:40:04 | hardeep | if anyone's bored and wants to try out queueing, i've put a recorder binary up at: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec.ajz |
| 09:40:19 | hardeep | everything works except: resume, repeat one queued song, prev |
| 09:40:46 | hardeep | diff: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/queue_function_1.diff |
| 09:42:03 | dwihno | whoa |
| 09:42:09 | dwihno | you are so cool Mr. Sidhu :) |
| 09:42:23 | dwihno | I always star to think about Apu in Simpsons when I see you :) |
| 09:42:28 | dwihno | Do you talk english like him? |
| 09:42:30 | hardeep | laf, fear |
| 09:43:02 | hardeep | not quite, mainly because i was born and raised in Canada hehe |
| 09:49:54 | dwihno | :O :) |
| 09:49:56 | adi|home | hmmm hardeep.. im looking at that freeshell thing... |
| 09:50:09 | adi|home | do they not offer ssh access or is it just me missing something? |
| 09:50:58 | hardeep | they offer both ssh and telnet access. |
| 09:51:08 | adi|home | okay.. didnt see it listed.. :) |
| 09:51:15 | adi|home | i assume your the lower level... |
| 09:51:20 | adi|home | the 'send a buck' one? |
| 09:52:38 | hardeep | oh, no, i have an ARPA account |
| 09:52:43 | hardeep | maybe that's why |
| 09:53:38 | adi|home | how do you like them? |
| 09:55:02 | hardeep | they're not bad... the connection can get slow at times but it has got everything i need |
| 09:55:16 | hardeep | althought i haven't been using it as much lately |
| 09:55:57 | adi|home | nods |
| 09:56:06 | adi|home | i figure ill check out the free account, see how i like it |
| 09:56:48 | hardeep | depending on what you want another almost free server is at: me> nods |
| 09:56:52 | hardeep | oops |
| 09:56:58 | hardeep | http://bsdshell.dyndns.org/ |
| 09:57:06 | hardeep | $5 |
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| 10:04:57 | Zagor_ | this proxy is driving me nuts. hangs for 2 minutes every 5 minutes... :-( |
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| 10:10:20 | dwihno | Zagor: tried any other proxies? You know, there are proxies with DCC support *hint* :) |
| 10:10:32 | dwihno | tircproxy is one, I think |
| 10:11:19 | Zagor | it's not the irc proxy, it's the https proxy that's giving me a hard time |
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| 10:12:19 | Zagor | my entire ssh tunnel (mail, irc, the works) locks up solid every few minutes. bloody annoying. |
| 10:13:55 | dwihno | whoa |
| 10:14:21 | dwihno | Tell me all about your ssh tunnel, I am curious :) |
| 10:15:58 | Schnueff | once upon a time there was an ugly big firewall |
| 10:18:49 | dwihno | Zagor: Please tell! |
| 10:19:36 | Zagor | dwihno: if your http proxy does https, you can ssh through it into a machine on the outside. and once there, your connection is no longer proxy-limited |
| 10:20:09 | Zagor | I often work at companies who only have a web proxy and no "real" connection |
| 10:20:36 | Zagor | so the ssh/https tunnel trick is a way for me to reach my mail machines etc from there as well |
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| 10:28:45 | Zagor | i'm warming to the bidir scroll idea. rather annoying when a line that's just 1 char too long has to scroll around all the time |
| 10:32:54 | dwihno | Zagor: so you do nothing but SSH? |
| 10:33:30 | Zagor | ssh allows tunneling of any number of ports, so I have X11 irc etc over this single ssh tunnel. |
| 10:34:42 | Zagor | remote emacs, xterms etc. unix is beautiful... |
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| 10:46:19 | dwihno | Zagor: so you only use ssh port thingies? |
| 10:46:24 | Zagor | yes |
| 10:51:49 | dwihno | Ah, then I'm with ya' :) |
| 10:52:20 | dwihno | btw, usb hookup fails with the "resume" screen active |
| 10:52:31 | dwihno | (when turning the unit on) |
| 10:52:39 | Zagor | yes, I know |
| 10:52:46 | Zagor | don't do that :-) |
| 10:54:00 | dwihno | Simple solution to all bugs |
| 10:54:02 | dwihno | "DON'T DO THAT!" |
| 10:54:13 | dwihno | The unit hangs when I blahblahblah |
| 10:54:15 | Zagor | "Doctor, it hurts when I laugh" |
| 10:54:17 | dwihno | Answer: then don't do that! |
| 10:54:19 | Zagor | don't do that |
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| 11:02:20 | * | Zagor is in "Rally the troops" mode |
| 11:12:21 | dwihno | WarCraft III? :) |
| 11:17:33 | Zagor | Rockbox! |
| 11:18:21 | langhaarrocker | You mean the guy who did the cube made a 3d ego shooter? :) |
| 11:18:35 | Zagor | hehe |
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| 11:20:22 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 11:21:06 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 11:21:40 | Zagor | hi |
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| 11:24:39 | LinusN | hola |
| 11:25:04 | Bagder | hey ho |
| 11:25:29 | LinusN | Bagder: i thought that num2max5 function was old and tested |
| 11:25:55 | Bagder | it was, but it uses floats in its original form and that's why I did that mistake you corrected |
| 11:26:01 | LinusN | aha |
| 11:26:11 | LinusN | i want the proto in an include file |
| 11:26:30 | Zagor | btw, why are you using %0d ? that 0 seems to do no good? |
| 11:27:04 | Bagder | true, it should be %1d really |
| 11:27:13 | Zagor | ok |
| 11:27:30 | Bagder | but I think %d is good too |
| 11:28:09 | LinusN | any ideas where to put the proto? |
| 11:28:31 | Bagder | probably a new header file or in some general one |
| 11:31:00 | LinusN | btw, what do we like most, 1.2Mb or 1200kb? |
| 11:31:19 | Bagder | 1200kb is 6 letters |
| 11:31:53 | LinusN | ok 1200k then |
| 11:32:10 | Bagder | I prefer 1200k |
| 11:32:31 | LinusN | i guess the point is to maximize precision |
| 11:32:36 | Bagder | yes |
| 11:35:22 | dwihno | Precision for all! |
| 11:35:23 | dwihno | :-D |
| 11:35:38 | dwihno | info should show megs instead of gigs. |
| 11:37:21 | Schnueff | ls -h does 1.2M |
| 11:38:01 | Schnueff | which i like better :) |
| 11:46:46 | dwihno | Zagor: so how do you access your ssh box from a host only allowing http proxy? |
| 11:47:19 | Hadaka | dwihno: corkscrew |
| 11:47:32 | Hadaka | Description: Tunnel TCP connections through HTTP proxies |
| 11:47:57 | dwihno | Hadaka: corkscrew? :) |
| 11:47:59 | Zagor | actually I use the https proxy, which doesn't have to speak http |
| 11:48:03 | Hadaka | (not to say that zagor would exactly use it) |
| 11:48:11 | Hadaka | yeah, corkscrew is a tool which does that |
| 11:48:12 | Zagor | http://ttcplinux.sourceforge.net/tools/stunnel |
| 11:48:26 | dwihno | www.corkscrew.com :-) |
| 11:50:23 | Zagor | corkscrew seems to be for http only, not https |
| 11:50:47 | Zagor | of course, doing it over http is a lot more tricky |
| 11:50:58 | Zagor | so still a hat off to those guys :) |
| 11:51:37 | dwihno | Who Am I? |
| 11:51:37 | dwihno | −−−−−−−−- |
| 11:51:37 | dwihno | My name is Pat Padgett. I'm a dork. |
| 11:51:45 | Zagor | hehe |
| 11:51:46 | dwihno | From the docs of corkscrew |
| 11:53:06 | dwihno | Some stupid policy might force http proxies |
| 11:53:59 | dwihno | Looks like putty has http proxy support built in |
| 11:54:20 | dwihno | how neat |
| 11:54:27 | dwihno | Zagor: What is your favorite dish? |
| 11:54:45 | | Part LinusN |
| 11:54:49 | Zagor | kebab med starka såsen! :-) |
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| 11:56:18 | dwihno | :-) |
| 11:56:44 | dwihno | How do you access your files when you're not home? |
| 11:56:46 | dwihno | scp? |
| 11:57:05 | Zagor | yes |
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| 12:00:13 | dwihno | Okay |
| 12:00:16 | Hadaka | Zagor: corkscrew uses the CONNECT method - which _is_ https tunneling through http proxy |
| 12:00:18 | dwihno | But how about realtime file access? |
| 12:00:29 | dwihno | HTTP CONNECT command? |
| 12:00:38 | Hadaka | yes |
| 12:00:41 | Bagder | there's no need for corkscrew if you can do CONNECT |
| 12:00:51 | Hadaka | eh? |
| 12:01:03 | Bagder | that's what Zagor does |
| 12:01:15 | Bagder | issue CONNECT and then ssh the rest |
| 12:01:40 | Hadaka | well corkscrew is exactly the program to do that with - which seems to be good with error handling and authentication and all those issues |
| 12:01:54 | Hadaka | Host aka |
| 12:01:54 | Hadaka | ProxyCommand corkscrew 192.168.2.254 8080 %h %p |
| 12:02:04 | Bagder | sure, but Zagor has a 15 line perl script for that |
| 12:02:16 | Hadaka | yeah I had one as well |
| 12:02:17 | Hadaka | but |
| 12:02:44 | dwihno | :-) |
| 12:03:01 | Hadaka | it used perl which is bit big, the reading and writing wasn't too efficient - and it blindly just said CONNECT to the proxy, without doing proper HTTP handling there with errors and authentication |
| 12:03:04 | dwihno | Who needs evil stuff like corkscrew when you got perl? :) |
| 12:03:10 | Hadaka | corkscrew does those things properly |
| 12:03:19 | dwihno | Hadaka: ah, I'm with ya' :D |
| 12:03:26 | dwihno | Neil Sedaka :-) |
| 12:04:06 | Hadaka | and... 15 line perl scripts is _huge_, what's up with the man? :) |
| 12:04:18 | Zagor | :) |
| 12:04:39 | Hadaka | (afkish, debugging a kernel panic) |
| 12:11:19 | dwihno | !temp |
| 12:11:22 | dwihno | whoops |
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| 12:12:59 | sereal | hey, anyone know anything about the jukebox fm recorder support? |
| 12:13:14 | Bagder | yes, we know that rockbox doesn't run on the fm |
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| 12:13:45 | sereal | is there any plans to support it in the future |
| 12:14:02 | Bagder | possibly, if we manage to find out how |
| 12:14:02 | Zagor | only if fm owners help |
| 12:14:23 | sereal | no ones come forward yet then |
| 12:14:52 | Bagder | there are too few fm owners still I guess |
| 12:15:02 | Bagder | or perhaps they're all chickens ;-) |
| 12:15:49 | sereal | yeh maybe thats it. Like myself, after spending around $350 - £280 |
| 12:16:18 | Bagder | so how much do you think everyone else spent? |
| 12:16:47 | sereal | probably more, cause i got mine off a lorry |
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| 12:21:31 | * | dwihno spent too much on his |
| 12:21:34 | dwihno | Just before the price drop |
| 12:21:42 | dwihno | Naaah, you can't spend too much on the archos :) |
| 12:28:09 | Zagor | lunch |
| 12:37:25 | Bagder | Rockbox - feeds the hand that bites you |
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| 13:08:17 | Zagor | Bagder: hehe |
| 13:08:42 | Bagder | I think it sums up our situation ;-) |
| 13:08:50 | Zagor | yeah, not bad |
| 13:20:40 | * | Zagor is adding hadaka's modules patch |
| 13:20:47 | Bagder | goodie |
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| 13:53:11 | huz | hello, i have a problem when i want to mount my archos : Dec 12 13:44:50 huz kernel: FAT: bogus logical sector size 64543 | Dec 12 13:44:50 huz kernel: VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 08:00 |
| 13:53:29 | huz | if i specify vfat, i've almost the same |
| 13:53:50 | huz | does anyone have a clue of what i can do ? |
| 13:53:56 | Zagor_ | looks like a very bad file system |
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| 13:55:02 | Bagder | dosfsck your archos |
| 13:55:07 | huz | Zagor: if i do a windows 'scandisk' do you think it will be better ? |
| 13:55:28 | Zagor | possibly |
| 13:55:40 | huz | i try first dosfsck thx |
| 13:55:58 | Bagder | use dosfsck -a |
| 13:56:15 | Bagder | (for automatic) |
| 13:56:36 | Bagder | at least for me, the prompting stuff doesn't work |
| 13:56:38 | huz | i wanted first to know what are the action of dosfck ;) |
| 13:56:43 | huz | ah ok |
| 13:57:01 | huz | Currently, only 2 FATs are supported, not 191. |
| 13:57:03 | huz | ?? |
| 13:57:11 | huz | it is a error message |
| 13:57:15 | Bagder | ! |
| 13:57:20 | dwihno | that does note bode well |
| 13:57:24 | Bagder | that's a major fault |
| 13:57:30 | dwihno | Majorens fel! |
| 13:57:46 | Zagor | huz: how was disk formatted? |
| 13:58:02 | huz | Zagor: i never formatted it since i bought it |
| 13:58:10 | Zagor | ok |
| 13:58:25 | huz | feture request : add ext3 support to jukebox :) |
| 13:58:27 | Zagor | can you connect it in windows? |
| 13:59:11 | huz | yeah but i have to boot (last time i did, there was no pb), i'll try that later, i've some works now |
| 13:59:34 | Zagor | the simplest way might be to backup and reformat |
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| 14:00:08 | Bagder | backup might be tricky if he can't mount it ;-) |
| 14:00:27 | Zagor | apparently it worked in windows last time |
| 14:01:08 | huz | I have another idea : does anyone use devfsd here ? because i don't work on /dev/sda1 but /dev/sda . I'm not sure it's correct ... (i think no, but it is all i have) |
| 14:01:25 | Bagder | sda1 is the one I use |
| 14:01:32 | huz | (maybe i had to say that earlier ... ) |
| 14:02:22 | huz | /dev/sda -> scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc |
| 14:02:26 | huz | no it's ok |
| 14:02:50 | huz | ok thx all, and thx for your great job ! |
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| 14:07:29 | Hadaka | I use devfsd |
| 14:08:25 | Hadaka | err, /dev/sda is not correct |
| 14:08:33 | Hadaka | it apparently can't read the partition table there |
| 14:08:56 | Hadaka | (or it's incorrect, whatever) |
| 14:09:57 | huz|work | Hadaka: what device do you use then ? |
| 14:10:45 | Zagor | sda1 |
| 14:10:54 | Zagor | or /dev/...lun0/part1 |
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| 14:12:33 | huz|work | yes but it seems correct, if i compare with my toaster : |
| 14:12:38 | huz|work | /dev/sr0 -> scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd |
| 14:12:49 | huz|work | my archos : |
| 14:12:55 | huz|work | /dev/sda -> scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc |
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| 14:13:21 | Zagor | that is the disk. you need to mount the partition |
| 14:13:29 | Zagor | the partition is /sda1 or .../part1 |
| 14:13:47 | huz|work | hmm ... i haven't this .. as i can mount the disk ;) |
| 14:14:16 | huz|work | i can't .. |
| 14:14:20 | Zagor | then you have one of those badly-formatted units without partition a table. i strongly suggest a reformat. |
| 14:14:31 | huz|work | ok |
| 14:16:52 | huz|work | it seems to be a problem with my kernel configuration (or devfsd configuration) as i manage to mount in on my debian box |
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| 14:21:35 | Zagor | huz|work: that's odd |
| 14:23:52 | Hadaka | huz|work: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 |
| 14:37:21 | huz|work | when i modprobe sd_mod, i have this in my var.log.message : |
| 14:37:28 | huz|work | Dec 12 14:21:56 huz kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 |
| 14:37:32 | huz|work | Dec 12 14:23:36 huz kernel: sda: Spinning up disk.......................................................................................................not responding... |
| 14:37:35 | huz|work | Dec 12 14:23:36 huz kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed |
| 14:38:00 | Zagor | what kernel is this? my kernel never says "spinning up disk" |
| 14:38:06 | huz|work | hehe :) |
| 14:38:11 | Hadaka | sd_mod? what kernel is this? :) |
| 14:38:34 | huz|work | it's the 2.4.19-r7 (gentoo-sources) |
| 14:38:53 | Zagor | also, first load all your code. then connect the archos (running rockbox) |
| 14:39:11 | Zagor | doing it any other way introduces timeouts that mess things up |
| 14:39:22 | Bagder | no, connect archos first |
| 14:39:27 | Bagder | then load modules |
| 14:39:38 | huz|work | yeah i think it's a better idea |
| 14:39:54 | Zagor | no good. that will make usb-storage fail if no scsi code is loaded |
| 14:40:32 | Bagder | scsi code should be built-in ;-) |
| 14:40:43 | Zagor | that's whay I said. load all your code... |
| 14:40:48 | Bagder | not all |
| 14:40:54 | Bagder | I can't do that |
| 14:41:19 | Zagor | that's very strange |
| 14:41:20 | Bagder | I need to load ehci-hcd and usb-storage after I connect my archos |
| 14:42:44 | Bagder | I originally tried to have em all built-in |
| 14:43:13 | Zagor | i always have everything built-in |
| 14:43:23 | huz|work | yeah the good order was - tadan! - modprobe usb-uhci (i've the usb-storage built-in) / connect archos + on / modprobe sd_mod |
| 14:43:37 | huz|work | works \o/ |
| 14:44:03 | huz|work | i think i will do a new kernel with everything built-in :) |
| 14:44:04 | Zagor | ugh, that's about the worst sequence. the archos boot-up is longer than the usb-mandated initial response timeout... |
| 14:44:05 | Bagder | what is sd_mod ? is that scsi? |
| 14:44:14 | Zagor | yes, scsi disk |
| 14:44:18 | huz|work | scsi disk |
| 14:44:24 | Zagor | anyhow, as long as it works for you |
| 14:44:46 | huz|work | yeah, it's the most important ! thx for your time |
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| 14:53:40 | huz|work | i'm sorry but i have a question about your native language :) is that correct : |
| 14:54:09 | huz|work | Third, a control master programm whom tasks is to a control master programm whom tasks is to ... |
| 14:57:09 | Zagor | ? |
| 14:59:59 | Schnueff | Third, a control master programme which controls the master programme which ... ? |
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| 15:00:21 | Schnueff | not 'whom' thats for persons only i'd guess |
| 15:00:24 | Zagor | oh, now I get it. |
| 15:00:30 | Zagor | it's "program" not "programme" |
| 15:00:41 | Zagor | and "master control program", not "control master program" |
| 15:00:48 | Schnueff | famous MCP |
| 15:00:53 | Zagor | :) |
| 15:00:57 | Schnueff | from tron, is it? :) |
| 15:01:06 | Zagor | dunno. i've actually never seen tron :( |
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| 15:01:24 | Schnueff | i guess its not from tron, but its appearing in tron |
| 15:01:33 | rghf | lo |
| 15:01:37 | Schnueff | yo |
| 15:02:22 | * | rghf has a stoopid noobie question |
| 15:02:34 | Schnueff | go for it! |
| 15:02:41 | rghf | is the jukebox multimedia support at all? |
| 15:02:45 | Zagor | no |
| 15:02:47 | Schnueff | no |
| 15:02:55 | rghf | right that answers that one :) |
| 15:03:01 | rghf | cheers |
| 15:03:13 | Schnueff | yo |
| 15:03:17 | Zagor | archos won't tell us and I frankly don't feel like spending another couple of months rev.eng:ing it |
| 15:03:36 | huz|work | Schnueff: i'm written a report on DDOS yeah |
| 15:03:38 | rghf | fair enough |
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| 15:51:20 | JulDwihno | Ho ho ho! :D |
| 15:51:27 | JulDwihno | Finns det några snälla barn här? |
| 15:52:01 | JulDwihno | Nehepp, då behåller jag alla datablad och specar själv då ;) |
| 15:52:28 | Zagor | ,) |
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| 15:55:04 | elinenbe | Zagor: you know how to run Hardeep's queue code? |
| 15:55:16 | Zagor | nope, haven't looked at it yet |
| 15:55:31 | elinenbe | Zagor: by that I mean, what button to press to queue a song. |
| 15:55:55 | elinenbe | http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec.ajz diff: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/queue_function_1.diff |
| 15:58:35 | JulDwihno | I think Mr Sidhu's alter ego is Dr Bombay :-) |
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| 16:01:32 | elinenbe | back already? |
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| 16:21:13 | Zagor | "since the version of 20021204 the battery sign in percentation(%) is more less than the version off the day before." |
| 16:21:24 | Zagor | can anyone interpret? |
| 16:21:49 | Zagor | he's trying to say newer builds show lower batt% values? |
| 16:22:21 | langhaarrocker | that's what I'd guess, too |
| 16:22:58 | langhaarrocker | more less == lower |
| 16:23:19 | elinenbe | I think it is code... |
| 16:23:39 | elinenbe | I think he is sending secret messages to his accomplices. |
| 16:23:42 | Zagor | oops, id3.c managed to be tagged as a scroll patch... |
| 16:24:00 | Zagor | elinenbe: :-) |
| 16:24:04 | elinenbe | if you take the first letter of each word he wrote it says "mll rules" |
| 16:24:14 | elinenbe | now, we just have to figure out who mll is! |
| 16:24:33 | elinenbe | is anyone currently working on bidi scroll? |
| 16:25:27 | Zagor | i just added it |
| 16:25:48 | elinenbe | really? nice :) |
| 16:26:02 | Zagor | yeah, i finally realized it's a nice option |
| 16:26:16 | elinenbe | wow! I ask, and you do! |
| 16:26:24 | elinenbe | that was the fastest request EVER! |
| 16:26:28 | Zagor | yeah, after only a month or so ;) |
| 16:27:23 | elinenbe | what exactly does the "anti-skip buffer" do? |
| 16:30:49 | elinenbe | brb |
| 16:31:12 | Zagor | it makes the disk spin up X seconds earlier than it has to |
| 16:31:27 | langhaarrocker | The fastest processed commit request I experienced with LinusN. It was only a few hours between request and the red build. |
| 16:31:48 | Zagor | "the red build". :-) |
| 16:32:08 | elinenbe | ah... |
| 16:32:09 | elinenbe | brbr |
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| 16:36:41 | elinenbe | Zagor: you can now get rid of some of the stuff on the TODO! |
| 16:36:47 | Zagor | ah, right |
| 16:37:05 | elinenbe | the configurable scroll |
| 16:37:08 | elinenbe | the sokoban levels |
| 16:37:15 | Zagor | sokoban levels? |
| 16:37:59 | langhaarrocker | yes, I played them all. Lets get rid of them. :) |
| 16:38:02 | elinenbe | in the TODO. They are now in an external file... |
| 16:38:28 | Zagor | indeed they are. I have completely missed that :-) |
| 16:38:30 | elinenbe | I think someone should add undo to sokoban |
| 16:39:07 | elinenbe | Zagor: while you are busy adding patches, add that star game. That was quite a bit of fun! |
| 16:39:18 | Zagor | the puzzle game? |
| 16:39:22 | elinenbe | yeah |
| 16:39:26 | elinenbe | that was a great game |
| 16:39:30 | elinenbe | and still is! |
| 16:39:36 | Zagor | ok |
| 16:39:38 | langhaarrocker | yes. with new levels. I' ve played them all. |
| 16:39:52 | MrSnazz | I was writing a 3d maze game for the jbr, would anybody even be interested in playing it? ;) |
| 16:39:59 | elinenbe | yes! |
| 16:40:02 | elinenbe | that would be fun! |
| 16:40:13 | langhaarrocker | is it openGL or DirectX? |
| 16:40:17 | Zagor | lol |
| 16:40:18 | MrSnazz | ok :) I'll have a patch next week probably |
| 16:40:29 | MrSnazz | its DirectX, but it requires a hardware mod |
| 16:40:40 | MrSnazz | you have to put an AGP card into the unit |
| 16:40:58 | Zagor | oh, no problem. |
| 16:41:06 | Zagor | everyone runs agp these days, don't they? ;) |
| 16:41:07 | elinenbe | the Archos could easily do a 3D maze game. |
| 16:41:09 | MrSnazz | hehe, it'll look something like this: http://www.mrsnazz.com/projects/rockbox/jmcmaze/mp3maze_1.jpg |
| 16:41:18 | langhaarrocker | MrSnazz: Hopefully not with a noisy fan. The harddrive already spoils all recordings |
| 16:41:32 | Zagor | MrSnazz: whoa! very nice |
| 16:41:52 | elinenbe | is it realtime updated, or does it draw screen by screen? |
| 16:42:09 | MrSnazz | elinenbe: i havn't decided yet, still playing with it |
| 16:42:33 | elinenbe | what I mean is, does it allow free movement (reat 3d raytracing engine), or is it "move box by box" |
| 16:42:36 | MrSnazz | if you mean, do you walk forward one square in a jump |
| 16:42:44 | MrSnazz | ah, currently its box by box |
| 16:42:45 | elinenbe | s/ reat/real |
| 16:42:46 | elinenbe | yeah... |
| 16:42:52 | MrSnazz | but I'm going to try free movement |
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| 16:43:36 | elinenbe | xam_: hello! |
| 16:43:38 | | Part xam_ |
| 16:43:45 | Zagor | you scared him! |
| 16:44:06 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: Do you allow _two_ new games within _one_ new rockbox release? |
| 16:44:31 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: I am just waiting for your on box cut editor now that disk writing is implemented... that would be great for me. |
| 16:44:34 | Zagor | actually, I'd like to get that plugin loader working before adding more games. but we'll see how far I get with it. |
| 16:44:42 | elinenbe | Zagor: sorry :( |
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| 16:45:14 | elinenbe | xam: hi there! |
| 16:45:19 | elinenbe | I am sorry for scaring you! |
| 16:45:21 | xam | hi |
| 16:45:31 | elinenbe | do you have a rockbox? |
| 16:45:33 | MrSnazz | Zagor: I was thinking about that this morning actually |
| 16:45:38 | xam | i'm waiting for my 2100 mAh AA batteries ;) |
| 16:45:43 | MrSnazz | Zagor: Glad to hear that somebody is working on a plugin loader ;) |
| 16:45:47 | xam | elienbe yes |
| 16:46:05 | elinenbe | this is the channel that talks about cardboard boxes for rocks. |
| 16:46:14 | langhaarrocker | elinenbe: I'm waiting, too, but nothing happens. :) |
| 16:46:14 | langhaarrocker | I need time which I don't have. It's still a long way to go for the cut editor. |
| 16:46:18 | elinenbe | I like the really thick ones. |
| 16:46:33 | * | xam is connect to the internet via 1kb/s mobile phone data connection |
| 16:47:10 | * | MrSnazz is connected via rfc1149 |
| 16:47:32 | elinenbe | xam: wow! I am here on a 16 BIT/sec telepromt connection. everything everyone writes gets printed out here for me. |
| 16:47:43 | elinenbe | I have no monitor. |
| 16:48:03 | xam | elinenbe must be a waste of paper ;) |
| 16:48:17 | elinenbe | never! |
| 16:48:28 | MrSnazz | xam: well, most irc conversations can be recycled for bathroom use ;) |
| 16:48:35 | elinenbe | Usually are... |
| 16:48:36 | xam | lol |
| 16:49:51 | Zagor | xam: where did you find 2100 batteries |
| 16:49:52 | Zagor | ? |
| 16:50:36 | elinenbe | Zagor: read me: http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM |
| 16:51:05 | Zagor | yeah, but I've never actually seen the 2100s for sale anywhere |
| 16:51:07 | elinenbe | http://www.thomas-distributing.com/ipower_2100mah_nimh_batteries.htm |
| 16:51:12 | xam | www.onlybatteries.com (and once on ebay) ... the only companies that manufactures them are sanyo and IPowerUS |
| 16:51:13 | elinenbe | there is the 2100 |
| 16:51:23 | xam | www.onlybatteries.com (and once on ebay) ... the only companies that manufactures them are sanyo and IPowerUS |
| 16:51:33 | Zagor | apparently sanyo makes really good batteries |
| 16:52:11 | elinenbe | sanyo batteries kick ass... every test of them show the KILLING all the other batteries. |
| 16:53:00 | MrSnazz | does anything in the recharge logic have to be changed if I replace the batteries with higher capacity batteries? |
| 16:53:15 | elinenbe | with my sanyo 1850s, I get 14 hours with rockbox! |
| 16:53:31 | Zagor | MrSnazz: no |
| 16:53:38 | elinenbe | however, rockbox does not take my half dead 1600s into account when it figures out life left. |
| 16:53:47 | Zagor | we use delta-V charging, which is the same for all NiMH batteries |
| 16:53:51 | elinenbe | It goes from 9 hours to dead in about 3 hours. |
| 16:54:05 | Zagor | yeah, the time estimation needs a bit of work |
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| 16:54:38 | elinenbe | a lot of work I would say... |
| 16:54:41 | elinenbe | :( |
| 16:54:48 | xam__ | argghhhl ... mobile phone connection is unstable |
| 16:54:59 | Zagor | elinenbe: nah, it's pretty good for me actually |
| 16:55:30 | elinenbe | Zagor: just wait until your batteries get old! |
| 16:55:34 | MrSnazz | estimating battery life with NiMH can be a pain in the butt |
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| 16:56:01 | MrSnazz | we have an insanely complex chunk of code in a handheld that my employer makes. I suspect it involves devil worship :O |
| 16:56:10 | | Quit xam (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: xam__!~xam@cork-201.e-merge.ie))) |
| 16:56:15 | | Nick xam__ is now known as xam (~xam@cork-201.e-merge.ie) |
| 16:56:21 | xam | i like nickserv ;) |
| 16:56:59 | Zagor | MrSnazz: :-) |
| 16:59:17 | MrSnazz | I'm sure I can find this info in a FAQ somewhere, but I figure it'd be faster to ask. What's the screen resolution of the JBR? |
| 16:59:18 | langhaarrocker | Is there still interest in user configurable key bindings? |
| 16:59:38 | langhaarrocker | 112x64 |
| 16:59:50 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: I think you were the main promoter of that. |
| 16:59:58 | MrSnazz | thanks |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:17 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: I may not be in the majority here, but I think it would just confuse everything. |
| 17:00:37 | langhaarrocker | elinenbe: that's why I feel so alone... |
| 17:01:14 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: i think there is an interest, but at least I'm a little wary of exactly how huge a change it will be to the code |
| 17:01:29 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: that time would be better spent on the split editor :) |
| 17:01:33 | langhaarrocker | huge is the right word |
| 17:03:40 | Zagor | gotta go. |
| 17:03:41 | | Part Zagor |
| 17:03:42 | langhaarrocker | elinenbe: the main problem with the split editor seems to be the file system. I haven't even looked at that. |
| 17:03:42 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: Do you see a chance to make a file api that can split a file at an arbitrary point? |
| 17:03:59 | langhaarrocker | that was half a second late :( |
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| 17:05:32 | elinenbe | does ayone have Hardeep's email? |
| 17:05:43 | langhaarrocker | not me |
| 17:08:19 | | Nick edx|notebook is now known as edx (Wozyat@pD9EAA8E1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:14:48 | elinenbe | I love the new bidirectional scrolling stuff! |
| 17:15:22 | langhaarrocker | Does it work with high sampling rates and many lines scrolling? |
| 17:16:03 | elinenbe | dont know |
| 17:27:21 | langhaarrocker | at least it looks funny with many lines scrolling in different directions |
| 17:28:32 | langhaarrocker | seems it eats 320kBit without complaining |
| 17:29:03 | elinenbe | I don't have a multiline scroll wps. |
| 17:29:11 | elinenbe | maybe I will change to that! |
| 17:29:39 | langhaarrocker | Disclaimer: headacke - risk! |
| 17:29:54 | elinenbe | I think I will like that. |
| 17:30:11 | elinenbe | langhaarrocker: what about an on box text editor... that would be cool |
| 17:30:18 | adi|work | elinenbe: what bidirectional scrolling? |
| 17:30:21 | elinenbe | then you can edit the wps on the box! |
| 17:30:35 | elinenbe | multi-line wps with scrolling. |
| 17:31:18 | langhaarrocker | elinenbe: And I thought it was me who had all the really weired ideas |
| 17:32:06 | adi|work | bidirectional scrolling is what? |
| 17:32:20 | adi|work | ahh.. nm.. |
| 17:32:25 | adi|work | just saw the patch info |
| 17:32:27 | langhaarrocker | short lines scroll right - left - right - left ... |
| 17:32:32 | adi|work | nods |
| 17:33:34 | adi|work | zagor.. are you keeping track of the 'compliment' emails? |
| 17:33:50 | langhaarrocker | Main point is that scrolled lines now are readable. |
| 17:33:56 | langhaarrocker | Zagor seems to be offline |
| 17:33:58 | adi|work | i thought it might be nice to get an archive of those going to ppl could see 'what others are saying about rockbox' |
| 17:34:06 | adi|work | damn him |
| 17:34:07 | adi|work | :) |
| 17:34:53 | adi|work | did i miss something on scrolling? do we now have 1 pixel and 1 char scrolling options? |
| 17:37:06 | langhaarrocker | I can only find n pixel options |
| 17:37:14 | adi|work | okay.. thats what i thought... |
| 17:37:41 | langhaarrocker | But I don't know anything about the player. I have a recorder. |
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| 17:49:50 | langhaarrocker | gotta go home |
| 17:50:36 | | Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 18:00 |
| 18:04:33 | adi|work | anyone around with a recorder that wants to test something for me? |
| 18:06:30 | MrSnazz | abi: sure, I'll test |
| 18:06:36 | elinenbe | I'll do it |
| 18:07:14 | MrSnazz | oops, I mean adi; I had a friend in highschool named abi, read it wrong ;) |
| 18:08:17 | adi|work | heh no prob |
| 18:08:31 | adi|work | okay. you have 2 choices.. 1 update from cvs and check this |
| 18:08:34 | adi|work | or i send you a binary |
| 18:08:38 | adi|work | which do you guys want? |
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| 18:09:25 | MrSnazz | I'd prefer binary at the moment |
| 18:09:36 | adi|work | np.. recorder.. comming up |
| 18:10:26 | adi|work | umm.. or not.. hold on |
| 18:10:32 | MrSnazz | hehe |
| 18:11:38 | adi|work | sending |
| 18:11:57 | elinenbe | same here... send it my way too |
| 18:12:01 | MrSnazz | couldn't receive :( |
| 18:12:10 | MrSnazz | 09:11 [OPN] DCC can't connect to 192.168.0.106 port 2615 |
| 18:12:18 | adi|work | ahh. firewall |
| 18:12:19 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 18:12:20 | adi|work | email? |
| 18:12:25 | MrSnazz | e-mail is fine |
| 18:12:26 | adi|work | better yet.. hold on |
| 18:12:40 | MrSnazz | Its odd, there shouldn't have been a DCC issue on my end. Go figure. ;) |
| 18:12:45 | adi|work | my end |
| 18:12:48 | MrSnazz | ah |
| 18:13:24 | adi|work | http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/ajbrec.ajz |
| 18:14:21 | MrSnazz | alrighty, what's the test? |
| 18:14:36 | adi|work | okay.. scroll speed |
| 18:14:51 | adi|work | f1 -> display -> scroll -> scroll delay |
| 18:14:53 | adi|work | sorry... |
| 18:15:02 | adi|work | what is your initial value? |
| 18:15:07 | MrSnazz | 5000 |
| 18:15:10 | MrSnazz | ms |
| 18:15:19 | adi|work | okay |
| 18:15:24 | adi|work | set it to 4000 |
| 18:15:36 | MrSnazz | ok |
| 18:15:38 | adi|work | then exit, start playing a song, stop it and return to the same menu |
| 18:15:51 | adi|work | basically need to spin the drive up so the settings get stored |
| 18:16:14 | elinenbe | I do it now... |
| 18:16:19 | MrSnazz | ok |
| 18:16:23 | MrSnazz | its still 4000 |
| 18:16:28 | adi|work | okay.. good |
| 18:16:36 | adi|work | in the sim, it seems to get an odd number.. |
| 18:16:38 | adi|work | gives me: 2440 |
| 18:16:39 | MrSnazz | weird |
| 18:16:43 | adi|work | after storing.. |
| 18:16:46 | adi|work | but okay.. no biggie |
| 18:16:49 | MrSnazz | let me try again |
| 18:16:54 | MrSnazz | I only played a few seconds of the song |
| 18:16:58 | adi|work | now.. drop it to < 2500 |
| 18:17:04 | adi|work | nah.. don't matter how long you play |
| 18:17:07 | MrSnazz | ok |
| 18:17:15 | adi|work | drop below 2500, play again and come back |
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| 18:17:51 | MrSnazz | ok |
| 18:17:53 | MrSnazz | it kept my value |
| 18:17:56 | MrSnazz | 2300 |
| 18:18:00 | adi|work | okay.. now try scrolling up |
| 18:18:06 | adi|work | tell me what your max is? |
| 18:18:14 | MrSnazz | 5000 |
| 18:18:18 | adi|work | good :) |
| 18:18:21 | MrSnazz | :) |
| 18:18:22 | adi|work | thats all.. ty :) |
| 18:18:26 | MrSnazz | no prob |
| 18:18:47 | MrSnazz | oh, while doing this, I noticed that on the scroll speed option, the example text for the speed doesn't start scrolling until after the delay value has passed. is that intentional? |
| 18:19:03 | adi|work | i assume so... |
| 18:19:13 | adi|work | Zagor is the one that put it in... |
| 18:19:21 | MrSnazz | I'll ask him later |
| 18:19:22 | MrSnazz | thanks |
| 18:19:27 | adi|work | what i assume is that until the delay changes it doesn't do bidi scrolling |
| 18:19:49 | elinenbe | adi: change the max scroll Hz to 50 |
| 18:19:55 | adi|work | will do :) |
| 18:20:07 | MrSnazz | wow, 50 :) |
| 18:20:10 | elinenbe | I would do it, but my computer with cygwin is out of town for a few days |
| 18:20:11 | MrSnazz | my eyes would pop out |
| 18:20:24 | elinenbe | 1 pixel scrolling really fast is nice |
| 18:20:37 | adi|work | doing it now |
| 18:20:43 | adi|work | commited |
| 18:21:13 | adi|work | i got 2/3 that you mentioned in the email |
| 18:21:29 | adi|work | the 3rd one seems to have gone away when i set the max limit to 5000 instead of the 2500 |
| 18:21:55 | elinenbe | great! |
| 18:21:57 | elinenbe | thanks |
| 18:22:00 | adi|work | np |
| 18:22:03 | adi|work | test and see if you like |
| 18:22:07 | adi|work | you need a binary? |
| 18:22:13 | elinenbe | sure |
| 18:22:17 | elinenbe | I'll take one! |
| 18:22:32 | adi|work | recorder with everything i assume? |
| 18:22:36 | adi|work | and is english okay? |
| 18:24:53 | adi|work | http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/ajbrec.ajz |
| 18:30:11 | elinenbe | yes and yes |
| 18:30:13 | elinenbe | I like it! |
| 18:30:40 | adi|work | :) |
| 18:31:01 | elinenbe | now make it go up to 100 HZ |
| 18:31:03 | elinenbe | then 1000!!! |
| 18:31:09 | elinenbe | AHHH! |
| 18:31:22 | adi|work | lol |
| 18:31:25 | adi|work | ummmmmmm no? |
| 18:31:26 | adi|work | :) |
| 18:35:23 | elinenbe | brb |
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| 18:50:53 | kreegee | need some help with GNUSH Tool Chain |
| 18:51:49 | hardeep | kreegee: ask away |
| 18:52:16 | kreegee | C:\rockboxx\apps>make -f win32.mak RECORDER=1 PROPFONTS=1 |
| 18:52:16 | kreegee | perl ../tools/uplang lang/english.lang lang/english.lang > build.lang |
| 18:52:16 | kreegee | C:\DOKUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOKALE~1\Temp\make23202.sh: command not found: perl [1] |
| 18:52:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK kreegee |
| 18:52:16 | kreegee | make: *** [build.lang] Error 1 |
| 18:52:23 | kreegee | whats gone wrong? ;) |
| 18:52:54 | hardeep | do you have perl installed? |
| 18:53:23 | kreegee | huh? ;) i will |
| 18:53:34 | kreegee | installed, but path= seems to be wrong ;) |
| 18:56:14 | kreegee | do you know if w2k needs a restart after changing the path variable? |
| 18:56:22 | MrSnazz | you're probably going to run into LANG_XXX problems too. |
| 18:56:36 | MrSnazz | that's whathappened to me last night while following the win32 howto |
| 18:56:39 | hardeep | kreegee: not a restart but you need to re-open the command prompt |
| 18:57:15 | MrSnazz | the win32.mak doesn't seem to replace the LANG_ tags with the proper localized values before compiling |
| 18:57:59 | kreegee | ok |
| 18:58:00 | kreegee | C:\rockboxx\apps>make -f win32.mak RECORDER = 1 |
| 18:58:00 | kreegee | make: *** empty variable name. Stop. |
| 18:58:01 | kreegee | ? |
| 18:58:17 | MrSnazz | you don't need to do RECORDER=1 |
| 18:58:22 | kreegee | k |
| 18:58:28 | hardeep | avoid the spaces |
| 18:58:30 | MrSnazz | it defaults with the win32.mak |
| 18:58:41 | kreegee | k |
| 18:58:44 | MrSnazz | that too. ;) |
| 18:59:03 | kreegee | perl -s ../tools/genlang -p=./lang build.lang |
| 18:59:03 | kreegee | sh-elf-gcc -O -W -Wall -m1 -nostdlib -ffreestanding -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit- |
| 18:59:03 | kreegee | frame-pointer -fschedule-insns -I../firmware/include -I../firmware -I../firmware |
| 18:59:03 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 18:59:03 | kreegee | /common -I../firmware/drivers -I../firmware/malloc -I. -DAPPSVERSION=\"CVS\" -Ir |
| 18:59:03 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 18:59:03 | kreegee | ecorder -c ./lang.c -o lang.o |
| 18:59:03 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 18:59:03 | kreegee | process_begin: CreateProcess((null), sh-elf-gcc -O -W -Wall -m1 -nostdlib -ffree |
| 18:59:06 | kreegee | standing -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -fschedule-insns -I../firmware |
| 18:59:07 | kreegee | /include -I../firmware -I../firmware/common -I../firmware/drivers -I../firmware/ |
| 18:59:09 | kreegee | malloc -I. -DAPPSVERSION=\"CVS\" -Irecorder -c ./lang.c -o lang.o, ...) failed. |
| 18:59:11 | kreegee | make (e=2): Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden. |
| 18:59:14 | kreegee | make: *** [lang.o] Error 2 |
| 18:59:15 | kreegee | is this the lang-bug? ;) |
| 18:59:26 | MrSnazz | not the same as what I encountered. ;) |
| 18:59:27 | kreegee | Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden. = file not found |
| 18:59:28 | hardeep | heh, i need a translation on that error. :) |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:06 | MrSnazz | are you doing the make from the apps directory? |
| 19:00:22 | MrSnazz | and did you grab the firmware,tools,apps, etc from cvs? |
| 19:00:24 | kreegee | jep |
| 19:00:27 | kreegee | jep |
| 19:00:31 | MrSnazz | huh |
| 19:00:39 | kreegee | from the newest tarball |
| 19:00:45 | MrSnazz | well, I gave up on win32 last night and built on a linux box instead ;) |
| 19:00:52 | MrSnazz | you can apparently install cygwin and do it that way also. |
| 19:01:03 | kreegee | ok |
| 19:01:10 | kreegee | let's try cygwin |
| 19:01:10 | hardeep | yeah, it works no problem with cygwin which is what i use.... |
| 19:01:14 | kreegee | k |
| 19:01:25 | MrSnazz | after installing cygwin follow this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html |
| 19:01:26 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 19:01:26 | * | kreegee is afk for 1 hour, simpsons and daily news ;) |
| 19:01:28 | kreegee | k |
| 19:01:30 | hardeep | but the gnush stuff should work as well.... i guess the makefiles haven't been updated in a while |
| 19:01:32 | kreegee | thx for the link |
| 19:09:04 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
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| 19:09:27 | elinenbe | hardeep! |
| 19:09:30 | elinenbe | hi there |
| 19:09:34 | elinenbe | I have something to send you |
| 19:09:41 | hardeep | elinenbe! howdy |
| 19:09:56 | hardeep | elinenbe: okay, what is it? |
| 19:10:17 | elinenbe | it is some comments about the queue you are working on. |
| 19:10:29 | elinenbe | I am trying to DCC it. |
| 19:11:02 | elinenbe | currently it just inserts a song that you choose, but why not insert a song or playlist? |
| 19:11:10 | elinenbe | also, I think it should include append. |
| 19:11:21 | elinenbe | so you can either insert a song, or append a song. |
| 19:11:39 | elinenbe | if you have a playlist of songs: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 |
| 19:12:27 | elinenbe | and you start listening, and then while listening to song 3, you browse and queue up song 12 with an insert it would look like this: |
| 19:12:34 | elinenbe | 3,12,4,5,6,7,8,9 |
| 19:13:16 | hardeep | oh, you mean append to playlist? |
| 19:13:20 | elinenbe | then lets say you listen a little longer, and while you are listening to song 6, you queue up song 15 with append it will then look like this: |
| 19:13:26 | elinenbe | 6,7,8,9,15 |
| 19:13:55 | elinenbe | and with playlists, it should do the same thing. |
| 19:14:16 | elinenbe | so, if you are listening to song 4 in a playlist that looks like: 4,5,6,7,8,9 |
| 19:14:52 | elinenbe | and you browse and queue up a playlist of songs 34,45,67 as an insert it will now look like: |
| 19:15:02 | elinenbe | 4,34,45,67,5,6,7,8,9 |
| 19:15:13 | elinenbe | are you following? |
| 19:15:20 | elinenbe | are you even caring? |
| 19:15:20 | elinenbe | :) |
| 19:15:23 | hardeep | that's exactly how my current implementation works |
| 19:15:30 | hardeep | in regards to playlists |
| 19:15:36 | hardeep | in fact, it only deals with playlists |
| 19:15:46 | hardeep | btw, can you resend the file please, i missed |
| 19:16:31 | elinenbe | well, I think when you hold down play on a song, something should pop up that says "left - insert" "right - append" |
| 19:16:35 | elinenbe | and then you can choose. |
| 19:16:36 | hardeep | The 8 song limit was for testing... we do need a limit for memory reasons but it can be reasonable large |
| 19:17:07 | hardeep | elinenbe: yeah, that makes sense re: insert/append |
| 19:17:24 | elinenbe | what I was wondering is how are you going to implement shuffle? |
| 19:17:33 | elinenbe | I think this way is easy to understand: |
| 19:17:39 | hardeep | queues cannot be shuffled imo |
| 19:17:42 | elinenbe | you are playing a directory of 10 songs... |
| 19:17:44 | elinenbe | I AGREE! |
| 19:17:48 | hardeep | it's a fifo list |
| 19:18:00 | elinenbe | 1,4,6,5,7,9,2,3,8,10 |
| 19:18:10 | elinenbe | and that is the way rockbox shuffles them... |
| 19:18:35 | elinenbe | and if after song 5 you insert a playlist of 10 songs, thay should go in in the proper order |
| 19:18:53 | elinenbe | 5,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,7,9,2,3,8,10 |
| 19:18:55 | elinenbe | there :) |
| 19:19:10 | hardeep | right, i agree... that's also how it works right now. :) |
| 19:19:12 | elinenbe | nothing added by queue should be shuffled. |
| 19:19:16 | elinenbe | oh.. okay :) |
| 19:19:17 | hardeep | except for the inserting playlists part... |
| 19:19:23 | elinenbe | what do you mean? |
| 19:19:36 | hardeep | i don't support queueing playlists yet... just individual songs |
| 19:19:49 | elinenbe | that would be nice. |
| 19:19:58 | elinenbe | if that was implemented. |
| 19:20:11 | elinenbe | here is one big question! |
| 19:20:15 | hardeep | agreed. :) but lets get the basics working first |
| 19:20:30 | elinenbe | lets say I am listening to a directory of songs 1,2,3,4,5 |
| 19:21:01 | elinenbe | and then I browse to another directory and queue up song 15 after song 5 (while listening to song 5) |
| 19:21:06 | elinenbe | then what will happen? |
| 19:21:19 | elinenbe | will it stop (because we are at the end of the directory) |
| 19:21:28 | elinenbe | or will it go on to song 16,17,18... |
| 19:21:30 | hardeep | assuming repeat mode off... ues |
| 19:21:39 | hardeep | no, queueing is for individual songs |
| 19:21:49 | elinenbe | ues? |
| 19:21:52 | hardeep | er, s/ues/yes |
| 19:21:55 | elinenbe | ah. |
| 19:22:17 | elinenbe | if repeat mode is off, then it will continue in the directory where the queue was made. |
| 19:22:21 | hardeep | when you select song to be queued, only that song is put in the queue list |
| 19:22:25 | elinenbe | okay. |
| 19:22:46 | elinenbe | I understand that, but what happens when it is the last song? |
| 19:23:09 | hardeep | when the queued song finishes, there are no songs left in the playlist so it stops |
| 19:23:12 | elinenbe | I think it should stop after that song unless repeat is on, and then it will repeat the entire list (with enqueues) |
| 19:23:14 | elinenbe | ok! |
| 19:23:39 | hardeep | hmmm, enqueues are discarded as they are used |
| 19:23:44 | hardeep | so repeat will not repeat them |
| 19:23:45 | elinenbe | oh. |
| 19:23:51 | elinenbe | I see. |
| 19:24:05 | elinenbe | how are multiple enquees handled? |
| 19:24:12 | elinenbe | if I listen to 1,2,3,4,5 |
| 19:24:23 | elinenbe | and during 3 I enqueue 8,9 |
| 19:24:28 | elinenbe | do I get 3,8,9,5 |
| 19:24:31 | elinenbe | or 3,9,8,5 |
| 19:24:41 | hardeep | 3,8,9,4,5 |
| 19:24:51 | elinenbe | ? |
| 19:24:52 | hardeep | it's always appended... but i like your idea of inserts |
| 19:25:25 | hardeep | why the ? ? (heh) |
| 19:25:38 | elinenbe | well, for insert I was talking about "insert directly after current song" or "append to end of the list" |
| 19:26:10 | hardeep | oh, yeah, that works to. |
| 19:26:19 | elinenbe | It would e super awesome if that could be implemented... (and I am always willing to beta test) |
| 19:26:31 | elinenbe | <grin> |
| 19:27:06 | elinenbe | could you amke it an option to be fifo or filo? |
| 19:27:23 | hardeep | well, for now, I just want to get a simple version that queues after the current playing song, which is what most people are looking for (at least i think that's what they want) |
| 19:27:34 | hardeep | (that's what i want at least hehe) |
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| 19:28:07 | elinenbe | so if you are playing 1,2,3,4,5 and during 3, you enque first 8, and then 9 −− you get 3,8,9,4,5 or 3,9,8,4,5 depending on the option you choose? |
| 19:28:08 | hardeep | yeah, lifo is essentially insert instead of append after current song |
| 19:28:18 | elinenbe | yeah −− I get that :) |
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| 19:28:40 | hardeep | it's very possible |
| 19:28:52 | elinenbe | that would be wonderful too :) |
| 19:29:07 | elinenbe | what you have done so far is pretty nice though |
| 19:29:31 | hardeep | it's got several bugs i need to fix though |
| 19:29:43 | elinenbe | nice if you want to DJ something :) |
| 19:30:04 | hardeep | oh, did you notice my bonus feature: the poor man's playlist creator! :) |
| 19:30:04 | elinenbe | I think a limit of maybe 100 queues would be more than enough |
| 19:30:16 | elinenbe | I guess :) |
| 19:30:23 | hardeep | yeah, 100 wouldn't be too bad, an extra 400 bytes |
| 19:30:32 | elinenbe | but they can nnot be saved. |
| 19:30:37 | hardeep | take a look at /.rockbox/.queue_file |
| 19:30:41 | hardeep | they are saved. :) |
| 19:30:44 | elinenbe | oooooh! |
| 19:30:47 | elinenbe | nice :) |
| 19:30:51 | elinenbe | I did not look there! |
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| 19:31:06 | hardeep | that's needed for resume, plus it saves precious memory |
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| 19:31:14 | elinenbe | you better get this stuff committed soon :) otherwise I will go nutty! |
| 19:31:32 | elinenbe | you can use that same code for recursive directory playing! |
| 19:31:46 | hardeep | heh, my playlist logic is flawed so I need to correct that and fix resume before we think of committing |
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| 19:32:07 | elinenbe | gete working :) |
| 19:32:11 | kreegee | whats the best way to download cygwin? |
| 19:32:14 | elinenbe | s/gete/get |
| 19:32:21 | hardeep | kreegee: use the cygwin installer |
| 19:32:22 | elinenbe | kreegee www.cygwin.org I think |
| 19:32:34 | kreegee | don't like online installer ;) |
| 19:32:39 | elinenbe | download the little stub, and then the installer will take care of the rest |
| 19:32:49 | elinenbe | I think that is really the only way |
| 19:32:52 | kreegee | k |
| 19:33:43 | kreegee | it's so slow :( |
| 19:35:03 | elinenbe | choose a location closer to you |
| 19:35:25 | elinenbe | hardeep: I am looking forward to the enqueue −− good luck on it. |
| 19:36:04 | elinenbe | te queue file should be queue_file.mps |
| 19:45:32 | hardeep | why mps? |
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| 19:52:49 | Zagor | .queue seems more intuitive... |
| 19:53:01 | elinenbe | I meant .m3u or .pls |
| 19:53:16 | elinenbe | .queue_file.m3u |
| 19:53:24 | elinenbe | so you can play it later on... |
| 19:54:44 | Zagor | ah |
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| 19:55:13 | Bryant | anyone here? |
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| 20:09:42 | Zagor | Bryant: yup |
| 20:11:12 | MrSnazz | is there a howto for putting a larger drive in the jbr? |
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| 20:12:30 | Zagor | MrSnazz: http://www.funmp3players.com/reviews/modify/ |
| 20:12:52 | MrSnazz | danke |
| 20:12:55 | Zagor | although I recommend following my instructions for disassembly instead, for less bending of metal parts |
| 20:13:06 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/disassemble.html |
| 20:13:29 | Bryant | does anyone know of a good site to order the jukebox from? |
| 20:13:37 | MrSnazz | thanks |
| 20:13:42 | Bryant | i ordered from buy.com last week, and they haven't even shipped it yet |
| 20:14:06 | Zagor | Bryant: www.funmp3players.com seems like a popular dealer |
| 20:14:21 | Zagor | i got mine from a local dealer myself |
| 20:14:42 | MrSnazz | i got mine from ebay, but ended up paying the same as bestbuy's price. It does have the black trim, though :) |
| 20:14:42 | Bryant | there are $50 rebates going around |
| 20:15:21 | Bryant | Woah |
| 20:15:25 | Bryant | there is a 40gig one now??? |
| 20:15:34 | Zagor | no that one is modified by them |
| 20:15:51 | Zagor | "NOTE! The 20GB version is from Archos and comes with 1 year warranty. The 40GB version is upgraded by us and come with a 90 day warranty. If you have any questions, please e-mail us." |
| 20:16:30 | Bryant | i see |
| 20:16:51 | Bryant | do you know if jandr.com is a good site? |
| 20:17:09 | Zagor | i've never heard of it before |
| 20:17:28 | Bryant | oh well, thanks anyway |
| 20:17:39 | Bryant | they have a 20gig jukebox recorder for 200 after rebate |
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| 20:18:27 | Zagor | there was an announcement of a sub-$200 deal on the archos yahoo list |
| 20:18:38 | Zagor | i'll see if I can find it |
| 20:18:38 | Bryant | for the 20gig one? |
| 20:18:43 | Zagor | i think so |
| 20:19:24 | Zagor | http://shorterlink.com/?Y32S17 |
| 20:19:44 | Zagor | remember the 20-gig is the only model with usb2.0. so the difference is more than just disk size |
| 20:20:22 | Bryant | oh? |
| 20:20:31 | Bryant | so the 15 and 10 don't have 2.0 |
| 20:20:37 | Zagor | no, they only have usb 1.1 |
| 20:20:44 | Bryant | with the rockbox firmware update...does 2.0 transfer much faster? |
| 20:20:54 | Zagor | 2.0 is *a lot* faster than 1.1 |
| 20:20:56 | MrSnazz | I'll really enjoy the faster speed once I get a USB 2.0 card for my pc ;) |
| 20:21:08 | Bryant | oh i know...it's faster than firewire |
| 20:21:32 | Bryant | but i heard that archos boasted 60mb/s rates, and with their firmware it only got around 8mb/s |
| 20:21:56 | Zagor | the small 2.5" disks aren't very fast, so yes you "only" get 6-8 MB/s |
| 20:22:17 | Zagor | it has nothing to do with the firmware. usb mode is completely handled in hardware. |
| 20:23:04 | Zagor | bbl |
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| 20:23:36 | Bryant | cool..thanks |
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| 20:49:43 | Bryant | i've heard nightmare stories about how the archos players would have hard drive errors and such |
| 20:52:29 | | Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
| 20:52:40 | Zagor | Bryant: not more than other brands, I'd say. |
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| 20:56:14 | elinenbe | I am tired... |
| 20:59:09 | webmind | i will be |
| 20:59:10 | webmind | :) |
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| 21:30:29 | Artine | Okay, now this is bizarre. My computer will mount my rockbox if it's connected and turned on when the computer boots, but I can't mount it if I plug it in after the system is up and running... Anyone ever seen that before? |
| 21:30:43 | adi|work | nods |
| 21:30:44 | adi|work | linux? |
| 21:30:51 | Artine | adi|work: Yes indeedy. |
| 21:30:55 | adi|work | nods |
| 21:31:07 | webmind | seen odd things with the linux drives but not this |
| 21:31:10 | adi|work | when your machine is up.. do you plug in the usb, then turn your archos on? |
| 21:32:28 | Artine | adi|work: Yes. I've also tried turning the archos on and then plugging in the USB cable. And the system seems to recognize it: /var/log/messages indicates that its connected. But /proc/scsi/scsi kind of has it listed, but all the fields are basically blank. |
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| 21:32:46 | Artine | adi|work: When I say its listed but blank, I mean there's one more entry with it plugged in than when its not. |
| 21:32:53 | adi|work | and if you have the unit on then plug it in, you still can't mount it? |
| 21:32:55 | Zagor | adi|home: also, delay cant be >2500 since we store # of ticks in a single byte. |
| 21:33:02 | Artine | adi|work: Correct. |
| 21:33:10 | adi|work | that would be the bug we had then... |
| 21:33:11 | Artine | adi|work: I'll give it a try again if you think it's worth a go. |
| 21:33:22 | Zagor | yes |
| 21:33:23 | adi|work | Zagor how come the initila value is 5000 then? |
| 21:33:31 | adi|work | ill fix it zag |
| 21:33:32 | Zagor | not sure |
| 21:33:36 | Zagor | thanks |
| 21:33:44 | adi|work | you know what im talking about right? |
| 21:33:47 | Zagor | yes |
| 21:34:04 | adi|work | 2500 max? |
| 21:34:38 | Zagor | yes |
| 21:34:56 | adi|work | its commited |
| 21:35:11 | Zagor | goodie. thanks. |
| 21:35:18 | adi|work | you see the feature request for 'gapless playback' |
| 21:35:23 | adi|work | we cann't achieve that can we? |
| 21:35:26 | elinenbe | that is high enough −− who really wants it over like 1000 |
| 21:35:46 | Zagor | we already have gapless playback, if your files are gapless |
| 21:35:54 | Zagor | elinenbe: beats me :-) |
| 21:36:01 | adi|work | zagor.. i was considering consolidating the menus... |
| 21:36:11 | adi|work | namely.. we don't need general and sound seperate anymor |
| 21:36:20 | adi|work | seeing as there is so much under general |
| 21:36:36 | adi|work | coouldn't we just have settings then sound/etc. under it? |
| 21:36:39 | elinenbe | I like that they are seperate −− maybe that is just me though |
| 21:36:41 | Zagor | i still think separating them is good. |
| 21:37:04 | adi|work | whats the advantage to it? |
| 21:37:12 | Zagor | I think I want scroll at the top of the Display menu though (picky me) |
| 21:37:27 | adi|work | easy fix..i agree. just didn't know where to put it :) |
| 21:37:35 | adi|work | i also consolidated the code there |
| 21:37:38 | adi|work | we had |
| 21:37:51 | adi|work | #if recorder |
| 21:37:52 | Zagor | the advantage is that sound is probably the most commonly used settings and having them visible when you hit Menu is a good thing |
| 21:37:52 | adi|work | code |
| 21:38:00 | adi|work | got ya... |
| 21:38:11 | Zagor | yeah, step size is only available for recorder |
| 21:38:18 | adi|work | right.. |
| 21:38:24 | adi|work | but we had 2 fields recorder only.. |
| 21:38:32 | adi|work | with 1 mutual between them... |
| 21:38:36 | adi|work | so i just rearranged |
| 21:38:39 | Zagor | oh, ok |
| 21:39:24 | adi|work | order: scroll, backlight, backlight_charge, peak meeter, volume dis, battery dis. |
| 21:39:27 | adi|work | that fine? |
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| 21:39:47 | Zagor | sounds good |
| 21:40:09 | adi|work | fixed, again |
| 21:45:31 | adi|work | Yes, we changed the power code. What is your request, |
| 21:45:31 | adi|work | exactly? |
| 21:45:33 | adi|work | lol |
| 21:45:35 | adi|work | i love you zag |
| 21:45:58 | Zagor | i hat sloppy bug reports |
| 21:46:04 | Zagor | hate, even :) |
| 21:46:48 | kreegee | i need some help with setting up a sh1 compiler on cygwin |
| 21:46:59 | kreegee | Administrator@KREEGEE /home/administrator/build/binutils |
| 21:47:00 | kreegee | $ ../../binutils-2.11/configure −−target=sh-elf −−prefix=/home/administrator/sh |
| 21:47:00 | kreegee | 1 |
| 21:47:00 | kreegee | Configuring for a i686-pc-cygwin host. |
| 21:47:00 | kreegee | Created "Makefile" in /home/administrator/build/binutils using "mh-frag" |
| 21:47:00 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 21:47:00 | kreegee | cc: not found |
| 21:47:02 | kreegee | *** The command 'cc -o conftest -g conftest.c' failed. |
| 21:47:03 | kreegee | *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler. |
| 21:47:58 | kreegee | hello? |
| 21:48:05 | Zagor | read the last line |
| 21:48:13 | Zagor | "You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler." |
| 21:48:13 | kreegee | ok |
| 21:48:15 | kreegee | yes |
| 21:48:28 | kreegee | i guess i can't do it in the windows enviroment variables |
| 21:48:38 | kreegee | *environment |
| 21:48:52 | Zagor | i don't know |
| 21:49:00 | Zagor | cygwin is not my turf :) |
| 21:49:29 | kreegee | ;) |
| 21:50:53 | kreegee | oh |
| 21:51:04 | kreegee | binutils-2.11/configure doesn't exist :D |
| 21:51:11 | kreegee | let's try with binutils-2.11/config |
| 21:51:42 | kreegee | oh |
| 21:51:52 | kreegee | thats a file, not a folder this configure thing |
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| 21:55:13 | kreegee | artine, can you help me with a cygwin problem? |
| 21:55:17 | kreegee | "*** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler." |
| 21:55:56 | Zagor | kreegee: normally in unix your are expected to have the compiler in your path, and CC is just the name of the compiler exe file |
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| 22:00:57 | kreegee | "If someone up there likes you, you now have a working tool chain for SH1." - nobody likes me :'( |
| 22:00:58 | kreegee | ;) |
| 22:01:10 | Zagor | :) |
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| 22:05:58 | webmind | again a question about digicams, i know for hardware prints and a scanner is big, but if i want to photograph larger stuff like hacked computer or sth.. what resolution should be minimal for a digicam? :) |
| 22:06:02 | webmind | sorry :) |
| 22:06:44 | Zagor | well there is no minimal. just make as good pictures as you possibly can. |
| 22:08:17 | webmind | well |
| 22:08:22 | webmind | but when buying a cam for it |
| 22:09:31 | kreegee | i think for some shots 2 megapixel should be enough |
| 22:09:55 | webmind | hm k |
| 22:09:58 | webmind | and what res. ? |
| 22:10:30 | MrSnazz | this was taken with my 1.3mp cybershot: |
| 22:10:30 | MrSnazz | http://groupware.zorcat.com/~jmc/2002/october/4/DSC05314.JPG |
| 22:10:45 | MrSnazz | obviously not zoomed in on any particular components, though |
| 22:10:45 | Zagor | 2 megapixel is 1600x1200 |
| 22:11:21 | MrSnazz | that's a scaled down version of the photo, the original is here: http://groupware.zorcat.com/~jmc/2002/october/4/original_DSC05314.JPG |
| 22:11:29 | Zagor | that's my point too. megapixels are not the crucial factor. setting up the shot is more important. |
| 22:11:48 | MrSnazz | yeah |
| 22:11:50 | MrSnazz | totally |
| 22:11:57 | MrSnazz | there was lots of dust on the board, and bad lighting |
| 22:12:12 | MrSnazz | the purpose wasn't to document the chips in that case, though ;) |
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| 22:12:41 | Zagor | is that a 68360? naah? |
| 22:12:44 | kreegee | Zagor, can it be possible that a standart cygwin installation doesn't include all needed files? |
| 22:13:17 | Zagor | kreegee: sorry, i don't know. maybe. i have never used cygwin myself. |
| 22:13:28 | kreegee | k |
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| 22:14:59 | MrSnazz | HC16 |
| 22:15:31 | MrSnazz | the board itself is the Portable DataLab that goes with the HP48/49 |
| 22:15:38 | Zagor | ah |
| 22:15:50 | MrSnazz | i wrote the firmware for it |
| 22:16:03 | Zagor | nice! |
| 22:16:10 | MrSnazz | yea, it was a fun project ;) |
| 22:17:29 | MrSnazz | it actually outputs data in hp's five-nibble-word list format, so the calculator can load the data directly into memory and use it with no parsing |
| 22:17:49 | MrSnazz | the downside is that I didn't have enough codespace left for anouther output format, so I had to write PC code to parse that HP data. |
| 22:18:15 | Zagor | well pc software is better than extra hp software, i would guess |
| 22:18:25 | MrSnazz | totally, that's why we did it that way |
| 22:18:35 | MrSnazz | the calculator was way too slow and burdened already to expect it to parse |
| 22:19:05 | MrSnazz | thankfully I didn't have to write the HP code :D |
| 22:19:34 | webmind | MrSnazz, could 680x480 be enough ? |
| 22:22:00 | kreegee | mrsnazz |
| 22:22:14 | kreegee | do you use cygwin? |
| 22:23:13 | MrSnazz | kreegee: nope |
| 22:23:29 | MrSnazz | webmind: it might be, if you have good lighting and focus in on parts/mods |
| 22:23:45 | MrSnazz | I think it probably would be. |
| 22:24:05 | MrSnazz | so long as the camera can focus on close objects |
| 22:24:16 | webmind | hm k |
| 22:24:19 | webmind | dunno |
| 22:24:21 | * | webmind wonders |
| 22:24:50 | webmind | he can buy a cheap digicam for 69euro or use my analogue cam and have to buy film |
| 22:25:12 | MrSnazz | what model of cam are you looking at? |
| 22:30:36 | webmind | http://www2.alternate.nl/html/nodes_info/mk-q80.html |
| 22:30:38 | webmind | that one |
| 22:32:47 | MrSnazz | hmm, don't see anything about focus distance... hard to say |
| 22:33:56 | | Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 22:37:39 | webmind | damn qware is site is japanese or sth |
| 22:39:38 | LinusN | huh? |
| 22:40:44 | webmind | looking on info for cam |
| 22:44:20 | LinusN | aha |
| 22:44:56 | kreegee | LinusN, do you use cygwin? |
| 22:48:09 | LinusN | no, i use linux |
| 22:50:02 | kreegee | k |
| 22:50:24 | LinusN | anybody tried recording since yday? |
| 22:52:29 | MrSnazz | not yet |
| 22:52:55 | MrSnazz | I can though, if there's something specific you want tested |
| 22:53:30 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK montykid |
| 22:53:30 | montykid | is it possible to switch back to the Archos OS for recording with Rockbox? |
| 22:54:17 | Zagor | montykid: yes |
| 22:54:19 | LinusN | montykid: yes, you can d/l the original firmware, put it on the disk as orig_archos.ajz and play the firmware file in the dir browser |
| 22:54:41 | montykid | ahh |
| 22:54:43 | LinusN | smack! rockbox loads the firmware and runs it |
| 22:54:43 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 22:54:43 | montykid | thanx! |
| 22:55:05 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 22:55:05 | montykid | awesome, i looked for that on the website, but couldn't find it |
| 22:55:31 | MrSnazz | I havn't looked very hard, but is it possible to display ID3 tag info in the file list view, rather than the filenames? |
| 22:55:53 | LinusN | no |
| 22:56:21 | | Quit edx ("good night") |
| 22:56:28 | | Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:56:50 | kreegee | good morning ;) |
| 22:56:52 | MrSnazz | not without more code, anyway :) |
| 22:56:55 | MrSnazz | thanjs |
| 22:57:28 | | Part montykid |
| 22:59:17 | Zagor | MrSnazz: reading all tags is too slow. i have an idea about an ipod-style id3 database though, that could be used for browsing id3 tags instead of file names |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:05 | MrSnazz | ah, I was wondering about the speed issue. Perhaps for now I'll just write a script to alter my filenames to the format that I want them in ;) |
| 23:00:33 | Zagor | yeah, that's faster :) |
| 23:05:06 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 23:08:05 | kreegee | try tag&rename if you use windows |
| 23:10:46 | | Quit kreegee ("tired") |
| 23:38:22 | | Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|away (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 23:48:30 | adi|work | why did montykid's text come in green? |
| 23:49:13 | Zagor | did it? I strip all colors. |
| 23:50:27 | | Quit Artine (Remote closed the connection) |
| 23:52:24 | LinusN|away | yes, it was green |
| 23:52:36 | LinusN|away | i have colored nicks |
| 23:52:48 | LinusN|away | but all other text is white for me (xchat) |
| 23:53:52 | adi|work | nods |
| 23:53:53 | adi|work | same here |
| 23:54:00 | adi|work | and on that note.. im headed home... |
| 23:54:05 | adi|work | see ya guys later |
| 23:54:10 | Bryant | hey |
| 23:54:18 | adi|work | hey you too |
| 23:54:18 | Bryant | do you guys work at archos or something? |
| 23:54:28 | adi|work | nope |
| 23:54:30 | LinusN|away | no |
| 23:54:30 | Bryant | or you just hang out here |
| 23:54:44 | adi|work | i work for a small start up (ver. 2.0) |
| 23:54:47 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:54:47 | * | adi|work smirks |
| 23:54:51 | Bryant | ah yes |
| 23:54:58 | adi|work | Zagor.. i tell you what we wanted to name the co. this time? |
| 23:55:18 | adi|work | old co. was vPort |
| 23:55:32 | adi|work | so.. we wanted to name the new one AtloV |
| 23:55:37 | Zagor | !?? |
| 23:55:42 | Zagor | aloof |
| 23:55:49 | adi|work | [a]ll [t]hats [l]eft [o]f [v]port |
| 23:55:50 | adi|work | :) |
| 23:55:51 | Zagor | aloos, even |
| 23:55:54 | Zagor | hehe |
| 23:56:03 | adi|work | i love being a geek |
| 23:56:05 | Zagor | A Lot Of Old Shit |
| 23:56:05 | adi|work | home going |
| 23:56:11 | * | adi|work is away: headed home |
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