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| 01:35:25 | hdaalz | hello, just thougth i'd pop along and say thanks for the work you've done on the juke/rockbox firmware :) |
| 01:37:18 | hdaalz | .. but I think my jukebox is about to die. keeps giving me harddisk error messages |
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| 05:42:04 | DeathGrip | Howdy folks |
| 05:43:43 | DeathGrip | Is there anyway to get the FM to do a hard reset |
| 05:43:43 | DeathGrip | ? |
| 05:47:20 | DeathGrip | Anyone disassembled one yet? |
| 05:49:25 | DeathGrip | Is anyone listening to anything I say? |
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| 06:18:30 | DeathGrip | Hello. anyone there. I have a bit of a problem with an FM recoder. |
| 06:19:08 | MrSnazz | nobody here at the moment ;) |
| 06:19:18 | MrSnazz | I don't have an FM, but did you look around the unit for a pinhole? |
| 06:19:22 | MrSnazz | or a way to remove the batteries? |
| 06:20:22 | DeathGrip | heh.. I have been lookin . I really havent seen anything . I pulled a panel off the top of it and when I went to put it back on the recorder started to turn on |
| 06:20:31 | MrSnazz | hmm |
| 06:20:34 | MrSnazz | check the manual? |
| 06:20:50 | DeathGrip | It turns on and get able halfway through its load up and freezes then turnes off about 10 seconds later |
| 06:20:57 | DeathGrip | about halfway |
| 06:21:07 | DeathGrip | I am formating it now... |
| 06:21:20 | DeathGrip | Dunno if that will help. works fine if you plug it in to the usb... |
| 06:21:40 | MrSnazz | hmm |
| 06:21:55 | MrSnazz | yeah, reformat and reload firmware I'd suppose |
| 06:22:10 | MrSnazz | manual says that "emergency master reset" is holding down the off button for five seconds |
| 06:22:32 | MrSnazz | that's about the best I can offer ;) good luck, sorry to hear of the troubles. |
| 06:22:45 | DeathGrip | The firmaware is hard coded in right> you just load an updated on in correct... NP. I'll try that when its done formattinh |
| 06:22:45 | MrSnazz | other people might be here in an hour or so, if you wait |
| 06:22:53 | DeathGrip | Heh. ok thx |
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| 06:35:27 | frox | is anyone in here/ |
| 06:35:53 | frox | i was wondering if anyone could help me get my jukebox connected on my linux box |
| 06:36:12 | frox | i recompiled the kernel w/ the modules needed, but i still can't access the device |
| 06:42:38 | DeathGrip | Just so you dont think you are being ignored . I have no idea :-) I was told to wait about an hour before any of the guys got here |
| 06:47:43 | frox | ok |
| 06:47:44 | frox | thanks |
| 06:48:10 | frox | well.. i have to goto bed, so can't wait up that long, i'll try back later |
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| 15:47:55 | Triple-z | hello |
| 15:48:01 | Triple-z | hows it going? |
| 15:48:34 | ricII | hi |
| 15:48:36 | webmind | hi |
| 15:49:39 | Triple-z | no news lately? (xmas?!?) |
| 15:49:49 | webmind | dunno? |
| 15:49:56 | ricII | can't decide if I sould rewrite tree.c from the ground up. |
| 15:50:21 | webmind | just do it :) |
| 15:50:30 | webmind | cant be bad can it? |
| 15:52:31 | ricII | already redesigned playlist.c (no more playlist in ram) |
| 15:54:47 | kargatron | can't decide, if I want to add a small request to the 'fixed' remaining-space-indicator feature request, should I reopen it, or file new request? |
| 15:56:21 | kargatron | the small req being to show MB when space is under 1GB |
| 15:59:35 | ricII | kargatron: would require all lang-files to be changed.. |
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| 16:02:14 | kargatron | so? :) |
| 16:02:45 | kargatron | remains a useful idea. 0.0GB not very useful :) |
| 16:03:17 | ricII | yes, I just hoped it would be an oneliner.. |
| 16:06:37 | webmind | ricII, uhm.. no playlist in ram? doest that cost in battery life ? |
| 16:07:32 | ricII | webmind when your where playing a real playlist it wasn't in ram anyway (it's cached do) |
| 16:09:08 | webmind | hmm |
| 16:09:10 | ricII | I'm making some kinda queue / playlist-creating thingy.. |
| 16:09:16 | webmind | nice |
| 16:09:30 | webmind | but wouldn't caching the list in ram save on harddisk xs time ? |
| 16:10:35 | ricII | it's cached, only needed when mpeg-buffer needs filling (song-change).. |
| 16:10:58 | ricII | so disk will be spining anyways... |
| 16:13:05 | ricII | shift-right sould queue file/dir extending the current play list.. |
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| 16:13:25 | ricII | this could be verry big |
| 16:13:36 | kargatron | ricII, are you making your queue design compatible with the player? |
| 16:13:40 | DeathGrip | is there any way to get the fm to charge and be able to use it at the same time? I can't use it while connected to the a/c adapter |
| 16:14:34 | ricII | kargatron I try to.. |
| 16:14:46 | webmind | ricII, hmk |
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| 16:16:24 | ricII | sofar I can copy the current play list.(optionaly shuffed) and append single files to it, now I want dir & m3u |
| 16:17:48 | kargatron | what happens when you queue into a playlist on shuffle mode? |
| 16:18:01 | Schnueff | hm didnt someone else submit a queueing patch before xmas? |
| 16:18:52 | kargatron | there's at least one (old?) queue patch, but i don't think zagor liked the design enough |
| 16:19:05 | Hadaka | DeathGrip: boot it up first, then plug in the charger |
| 16:19:06 | kargatron | but that's older than just before xmas, so dunno about another |
| 16:19:07 | ricII | it's appended on the end (shuffeling is only done in the indices) it just get appended on end. |
| 16:19:16 | Schnueff | (hardeeps? 2002/12/17 ) |
| 16:19:26 | kargatron | doesn't queueing conceptually have insert/append options? |
| 16:19:35 | Schnueff | and then there's a very old (2002/10/05) |
| 16:19:47 | kargatron | the insert is what's potentially confusing with shuffle, i'd think |
| 16:19:56 | ricII | kargatron yes, it more a dynamic playlist creation.. |
| 16:20:18 | DeathGrip | is there any way to get the fm to charge and be able to use it at the same time? I can't use it while connected to the a/c adapter |
| 16:20:32 | DeathGrip | Its really annoying |
| 16:20:40 | ricII | <Hadaka> DeathGrip: boot it up first, then plug in the charger |
| 16:20:55 | DeathGrip | ahh lemmie try that real quick |
| 16:21:35 | * | Schnueff leaves - cya |
| 16:22:07 | ricII | there is no differnce in my concent between a queue & a playlist... |
| 16:22:24 | ricII | s/concent/concept |
| 16:23:00 | goodzilla | Hello there, just need a quick response if someones knows right now: building rockbox for uisimulator, make says it need windows.h, io.h, etc... seems I missed something - thx |
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| 16:23:23 | ricII | goodzilla include files ? |
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| 16:23:42 | DeathGrip | Thx ric that was it. the thing was locking up during boot. I formatted it and all was good . the batteries seem to not be able to last a very long time. WOuld xferring 15 gigs of files after a format on batter wipe it out ya thing? |
| 16:24:01 | goodzilla | I don't find these .h files in rockbox sources... |
| 16:24:25 | ricII | goodzilla: no they sould be part of your development env.. |
| 16:24:48 | goodzilla | I installed SH-GCC, and Gnu GCC |
| 16:25:00 | goodzilla | I check... |
| 16:25:20 | ricII | goodzilla need X headerfiles & libs (when compiling on un*x) |
| 16:27:15 | goodzilla | Thanks - I'm using WinXP, and compile OK the normal rockbox version in a DOS window, using sh-gcc |
| 16:29:15 | goodzilla | only have this missing .h files when building the [sim] version |
| 16:31:05 | ricII | kargatron: inserting (after song playing) would require an other filecopy. (could be damm slow) |
| 16:33:27 | ricII | and what to do when in shuffle mode? |
| 16:33:33 | kargatron | just thinking about what people are requesting for queue |
| 16:33:55 | kargatron | i never actually used it - i'm satisfied with my fixed playlists. |
| 16:34:28 | kargatron | i'm waiting for bookmarks, so i can bounce between playlists |
| 16:36:31 | ricII | hmm how would that work, create a .bookmarks file with playlist names and track/time info |
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| 16:37:01 | kargatron | yes |
| 16:37:15 | kargatron | just duping the info now used for resume in the RTC. |
| 16:37:28 | kargatron | conteptually, at least. i'm not a rockbox dev :) |
| 16:38:11 | ricII | me either :) |
| 16:44:50 | ricII | hmm maybe I sould replace the "insert after song playing" option with "start in new list after this song" |
| 16:48:32 | kargatron | well, i for one don't immediately understand the second option, so maybe not :) |
| 16:52:25 | ricII | why sould you insert songs after the playing one in shuffle mode? |
| 16:54:08 | ricII | appending it to the end & reshuffeling the remaining part seems ok to me. |
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| 17:44:38 | wethion | Ok, I don't think this is covered by the FAQ. I have a jukebox studio 10. I've compiled ISD-200 and ATA support into the kernel. I'm running scsi already. The drive does not show up as a scsi device (as per scsiinfo). where am I going wrong? |
| 17:45:39 | ricII | usb support? |
| 17:46:02 | wethion | ricII: Yup.. want me to post my .config somewhere? |
| 17:46:27 | wethion | running kernel 2.5.54 btw. |
| 17:46:45 | ricII | hmm still on 2.4.x |
| 17:47:16 | wethion | ricII: not that much difference esp in usb. |
| 17:47:23 | wethion | I ahve enabled.... |
| 17:47:31 | ricII | dmesg after insert? |
| 17:48:04 | wethion | never tried that, left it plugged in.. hang on a sec... |
| 17:48:57 | schuepf | wethion: have you compiled the usb and scsi support as modules ? |
| 17:50:07 | wethion | schuepf: no all as integral.. 0 delta on the dmesg.. however, the USB mass storage driver is registered on boot... |
| 17:51:11 | wethion | the jukebox does say USB active, if that means anything.. |
| 17:52:00 | schuepf | wethion: have you had a look in /proc/devices... |
| 17:52:52 | wethion | schuepf: not sure how to read the file.. can you explain? |
| 17:52:54 | schuepf | wethion: the USB port on Jukebox should recognize the connect without a driver loaded, I think... |
| 17:53:00 | schuepf | cat |
| 17:53:34 | schuepf | there should be a character device usb |
| 17:53:46 | wethion | under character devices I do have a '180 usb' .. oh, no I can read it literally.. I mean what does it mean.. |
| 17:54:02 | wethion | and there is. |
| 17:54:15 | schuepf | that's the device number for the driver |
| 17:55:12 | wethion | what's the next step? is there somewhere I can reconcile that number to an actual /dev/xxx? |
| 17:57:04 | schuepf | yes, there should be a directory /dev/usb |
| 17:58:08 | schuepf | with ls -l you see the correspondig major device number |
| 17:58:11 | wethion | there is.. |
| 17:59:27 | schuepf | maybe your dmesg wasn't updated...please have a look in the /var/log/messages or where your syslog logs everthing to... |
| 17:59:56 | wethion | the only 180 I see is the file size.. or is that the major device number? |
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| 18:01:56 | wethion | naught in syslog or messages.. ext3 stuff, and a note about the reboot when I installed the new kernel. |
| 18:03:03 | schuepf | what Linux dist do you have ? |
| 18:03:17 | wethion | in /dev/usb, there are numerous listings for devices I recognize, printer, scanner, etc. Debian. |
| 18:03:57 | schuepf | is there a /etc/hotplug ? |
| 18:04:57 | wethion | No. only in my kernel sources. |
| 18:06:33 | wethion | should there be? I thought hot plug was for PCI devices.. |
| 18:06:55 | schuepf | no, have a short look in "man hotplug" |
| 18:08:15 | wethion | there is no man for hotplug.. under /usr/src/DOcumentation/hotplug lemme look.. |
| 18:08:37 | schuepf | hotplug is a program which is used by the kernel to notify user mode software when some sig |
| 18:08:39 | schuepf | nificant (usually hardware-related) events take place. An example is when a USB or Cardbus |
| 18:08:40 | schuepf | device has just been plugged in. This is useful for automatically loading and setting up |
| 18:08:42 | schuepf | drivers, packaged either as kernel modules or as user mode programs. |
| 18:09:03 | schuepf | The hotplug program path name is registered in /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug, and normally holds |
| 18:09:06 | schuepf | the value /sbin/hotplug. Except for specialized configurations such as initrd(4) configura |
| 18:09:06 | schuepf | tions, that identifies a shell script which delegates to specific "policy agents", /etc/hot |
| 18:09:08 | schuepf | plug/NAME.agent. The name of the agent is given by the kernel as the first command-line |
| 18:09:09 | schuepf | parameter. The name corresponds to a specific kernel subsystem whose events it processes |
| 18:09:11 | schuepf | (e.g. "usb", "pci", "net" etc.). |
| 18:11:47 | schuepf | does your system use hotplug ? |
| 18:13:11 | wethion | not yet.. the kernel is compiling as we write. |
| 18:13:26 | wethion | getting hotplug from sf.net |
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| 18:13:54 | schuepf | I use SuSE and there the hotplug manages the new usb devices found... |
| 18:17:12 | schuepf | as I can see in my syslog (/var/log/messages) there's an entry if the USB device is disconnected: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2 |
| 18:19:06 | schuepf | that should occur in any case, no matter how the usb bus is handled later on...(be shure to write all syslog, not filtered to only higher levels) |
| 18:20:45 | schuepf | a question to all: has anybody heard about a device to interconnect two usb devices (a usb host controller device) ?? |
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| 18:22:51 | schuepf | hey, somebody out there ??? |
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| 18:23:56 | kargatron | no and yes, respectively |
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| 18:27:14 | kargatron | ricII, back to queueing. re : your last question |
| 18:27:35 | kargatron | the insert is just for wanting to hear your choice immediately, i believe - if you can handle that, then people should be satisfied |
| 18:29:18 | ricII | kargatron that's no queueing, just stop what ever is playing and start the new song |
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| 18:30:05 | ricII | that's already working :) |
| 18:30:47 | kargatron | you know what i mean |
| 18:31:03 | kargatron | " i wanna hear this cut, then go on with my playlist" |
| 18:31:36 | kargatron | admittedly, that use case will be covered by auto-bookmarks |
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| 18:35:18 | hardeep | happy new year all. :) |
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| 18:37:20 | ricII | not after the current songs ends, nonrecursive, just one song ? |
| 18:38:47 | kargatron | [shrug] |
| 18:39:20 | kargatron | insert doesn't make much sense for shuffle outside one track |
| 18:39:36 | kargatron | but certainly in non-shuffle, insert would be desired for track/dir/pl |
| 18:39:39 | kargatron | ideally |
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| 18:40:43 | ricII | queuing == a fifo taking precedence over playlists (dir == dynamic playlist) |
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| 18:42:18 | hardeep | ricII: right, the queued songs should not be "remembered" once they're complete |
| 18:42:51 | hardeep | have you guys tried the patch i submitted last year? i haven't had much feedback |
| 18:44:08 | ricII | so dynamic playlist & queueing are to differnt things. |
| 18:44:16 | hardeep | ricII: yes |
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| 18:45:23 | hardeep | i've implemented queueing but not dynamic playlists |
| 18:45:35 | ricII | working on the last.. |
| 18:46:14 | hardeep | ricII: cool. :) definitely a needed feature |
| 18:47:52 | ricII | but I had trouble with insert (aposed to append to end) but that sould be handeld as queueing.. |
| 18:48:02 | * | ricII thinks |
| 18:48:24 | hardeep | ricII: not necessarily, you may want to insert into a playlist |
| 18:48:50 | hardeep | ricII: because once a song is played, it's removed from the queue |
| 18:49:14 | hardeep | ricII: whereas for a dynamic playlist, you can't remove it |
| 18:49:38 | ricII | hardeep: inserting makes no sense in shuffle mode, and would require expensive file copies. |
| 18:50:12 | hardeep | ricII: hmmm, it can sometimes make sense in shuffle mode |
| 18:50:24 | hardeep | ricII: for instance, if two songs should always be played back to back |
| 18:50:57 | hardeep | and it definitely makes sense for non-shuffle mode |
| 18:51:39 | ricII | hardeep: what would be wrong with appending it and reshuffle the remaining(still to play) part |
| 18:52:17 | hardeep | ricII: how can you guarantee the inserted song will play next? |
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| 18:52:48 | ricII | makes no sence in shuffle mode |
| 18:53:38 | hardeep | it can in some cases as I mentioned above |
| 18:53:57 | hardeep | and, as it definitely makes sense in non-shuffle mode, it does seem like a feature that should be included |
| 18:53:57 | ricII | hmm |
| 18:54:11 | hardeep | there's no reason to special case for shuffle mode |
| 18:55:15 | kargatron | certainly on the user end there's not much difference between queue and 'dynamic pl' |
| 18:55:24 | kargatron | there's insert, and append, and however that works in shuffle |
| 18:55:33 | ricII | hardeep: shuffling is only done in ram (indices) |
| 18:56:07 | hardeep | kargatron: the main difference would be noticed with repeat all mode and previous |
| 18:56:08 | ricII | kargatron queueing isn't stored |
| 18:57:38 | hardeep | ricII: right, so and insert would be a fairly expensive operation, but, as a user, it's something i'd definitely like to have |
| 18:57:54 | hardeep | ricII: the indices are saved even for non-shuffle mode so the cost is the same |
| 18:58:34 | ricII | hardeep but when shuffled, I don't now where to insert the new songs.. |
| 18:59:17 | kargatron | you know where - right after the current. :) you just don't want to code it :) |
| 18:59:33 | hardeep | ricII: hmmm, yeah |
| 18:59:47 | ricII | kargatron that's only fine for queueing.. |
| 18:59:52 | hardeep | i'd think the best place to insert would be right after the current song in the playlist |
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| 19:00:13 | hardeep | it would require a seek to the location |
| 19:00:23 | hardeep | and then a recompile of the indices |
| 19:01:00 | hardeep | that way, it would be in the correct location if the user decides to disable shuffling |
| 19:01:49 | ricII | yes, so we have append to queue, append to pl , insert in pl & maybe take current soung out of pl |
| 19:01:52 | kargatron | i don't see as a user why 'queue' and 'dynamic' are different. why not treat it as a modified file, that you either save or don't save |
| 19:02:14 | kargatron | if i queue, then save, then it's saved, otherwise, it's not |
| 19:03:26 | hardeep | kargatron: the queuelist need to be saved no matter what for resume purposes. the question is whether to save in the actual playlist or separate |
| 19:03:51 | hardeep | kargatron: namely, should we be modifying the user's current playlist |
| 19:04:28 | hardeep | ricII: that lists sounds about right |
| 19:04:29 | kargatron | right, which would imply a 'save?' query when the pl is STOPped, perhaps? |
| 19:04:30 | ricII | as queued files suppose to disapeer separte |
| 19:05:04 | kargatron | do you really want to have an 'unsaved plstlist mod' mode and a 'saved playtlist mod' mode? sounds counterintuitive |
| 19:06:12 | hardeep | kargatron: it makes sense to me. :) there are many cases where i feel like listening to this song but not want to modify my existing playlist |
| 19:06:20 | hardeep | kargatron: which is "queueing" mode |
| 19:07:01 | hardeep | kargatron: we can't wait for playlist stop because if the user hits "off" there's nothing we can do |
| 19:07:09 | kargatron | [shrug] ok - as i said earlier, i'm not a customer for this feature by and large, so i'll bow to those who are |
| 19:07:29 | kargatron | you mean you don't mean for resume to work for unplayed queued files? |
| 19:08:03 | hardeep | kargatron: we want resume to work for unplayed queued files |
| 19:08:21 | hardeep | the patch i submitted works correctly after resume |
| 19:08:23 | kargatron | so that queued pl will be in memoryu until STOPped or finished |
| 19:08:31 | hardeep | karagtron: right |
| 19:08:34 | kargatron | so you can wait for pl stop |
| 19:08:51 | ricII | hardeep why didn't you make max of 8 why not use a real .queue.m3u ? |
| 19:09:17 | ricII | oops |
| 19:09:41 | hardeep | ricII: i actually do save it to file, the max of 8 was partially for testing purposes, it's easy to increase |
| 19:10:18 | hardeep | ricII: but, since we need to save indices in memory, we can't make it all that large... |
| 19:10:39 | hardeep | ricII: and the question is, in reality, how many songs will a user really be queing in advance |
| 19:11:05 | ricII | hardeep I would like to queue entire dirs... |
| 19:11:32 | hardeep | ricII: right, queuing playlists (or dirs) is a separate beast |
| 19:11:55 | hardeep | ricII: namely, we only need to save the dir or playlist name, instead of all songs in it |
| 19:11:55 | kargatron | should it be? |
| 19:12:05 | ricII | yep but the code is almost the same for dynamic pl |
| 19:13:53 | hardeep | yeah, i could see us just using the same queue list for playlists and dirs... just trying to save an unncessary file copy |
| 19:15:23 | kargatron | when saving pl, you have to convert from teh proposed one-line queued dir/pl entry into it's indiv tracks, right? |
| 19:15:54 | hardeep | kargatron: right |
| 19:16:19 | ricII | but that the user asks for it ;) (could take a while) |
| 19:17:26 | hardeep | definitely :) these features are potential batter killers. :) |
| 19:17:32 | hardeep | er battery |
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| 19:24:21 | ricII | I have to think this out a little more... |
| 19:27:40 | kargatron | given the compleixity, you might not want to do too much work without getting a thumbs up from zagor, et al. |
| 19:28:00 | kargatron | at least, i wouldn't want to venture too far ahead, since they're the ones accepting or rejecting patches ;) |
| 19:30:00 | ricII | no, but it's fun fiddling with it :) |
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| 21:20:54 | paron | any swede here? |
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| 21:29:06 | ruxxell | hey all |
| 21:29:30 | ruxxell | just got an archos player yesterday, busting a nut over rockbox as we speak. haha |
| 21:29:48 | ruxxell | but i have a question, if anyone is here. |
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| 21:37:54 | ironi | hello |
| 21:39:35 | paron | hello |
| 21:39:40 | paron | I'm selling my archos |
| 21:39:50 | paron | buying an Ipod |
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| 21:46:09 | ironi | heh |
| 21:46:16 | ironi | i'm considering the same |
| 21:46:41 | ironi | it's stopped charging batteries |
| 21:46:50 | ironi | have to charge them externally |
| 21:48:47 | paron | same here, and I bought an external charger for 700 kr(about 70 dollars) |
| 21:49:01 | paron | it charges the batteries in 1 hour! |
| 21:49:52 | ironi | okej |
| 21:49:55 | ironi | de tär ju bra |
| 21:50:04 | ironi | gp powerbank ? |
| 21:51:15 | paron | japp |
| 21:51:35 | ironi | jo jag säljer såna, de är grymma |
| 21:51:47 | paron | mmjo de e ipods oxo! |
| 21:51:53 | ironi | jag har den som ladadr över natten, men jag ahr dubbla uppstätningar av 200 mAh-batterier, så :) |
| 21:52:06 | paron | ja ahr dubbla 1800 |
| 21:52:17 | paron | dubbla uppsättningar alltså |
| 21:52:30 | ironi | jo jag förstod det =) |
| 21:52:33 | ironi | VAD HAR DU |
| 21:52:36 | ironi | EN RECORDER? |
| 21:52:39 | MrSnazz | hast du hobbies? |
| 21:52:41 | ironi | oops :) |
| 21:52:45 | MrSnazz | ich komme mit dem auto |
| 21:52:51 | paron | nee en old-school player 6000 |
| 21:52:52 | _seb_ | they're speaking swedish :) |
| 21:52:56 | MrSnazz | ahh, lol |
| 21:52:57 | ironi | paron: me too |
| 21:53:00 | paron | en utav de första |
| 21:53:06 | MrSnazz | I should have known, from all the umlauts ;) |
| 21:53:07 | ironi | paron: is your stop button bad too? |
| 21:53:08 | paron | ver 4.09 |
| 21:53:12 | paron | nee |
| 21:53:20 | MrSnazz | und der jag jo jaggen |
| 21:53:26 | ironi | paron: my doenst cklick naymore, so its very sensistive |
| 21:53:33 | paron | but my backlight is a little bit faulty |
| 21:53:33 | ironi | well |
| 21:53:41 | ironi | the jb6000 is a pretty crappy product |
| 21:53:47 | paron | japp |
| 21:54:00 | paron | but not the ipod *drewl* |
| 21:54:03 | ironi | but i got mine for $150, brand newm so i dont complain |
| 21:54:16 | ironi | ipod is very cool but not as elite =) |
| 21:54:44 | Hadaka | I would not swap my unit for any ipod |
| 21:54:49 | paron | ARRGH!!!! paid $400 |
| 21:55:26 | paron | but with ipod u don't need to be 1337 to use it!! |
| 21:55:37 | ironi | paron: o got it in the states, paid $210, got $30 mail-in rebate, found it for $179 , returned the first one, kept the rebate, ended up paying $150 |
| 21:55:39 | paron | to understand it |
| 21:55:39 | ironi | paron :D |
| 21:56:09 | ironi | paron: well archos compared to ipod is like a siemens cellphone compared to nokia |
| 21:56:12 | ironi | nokia is easy |
| 21:56:12 | paron | so u sent it back to the states or what? |
| 21:56:20 | ironi | but for a elite user siemens owns |
| 21:56:25 | paron | =) |
| 21:56:29 | ironi | paron: no no i was living there |
| 21:56:40 | paron | oooooh |
| 21:57:08 | ironi | my left speaker is buzzing, it annoyes me very much |
| 21:57:17 | ironi | i cant find the source of the problem |
| 21:57:28 | paron | sell it fast!! |
| 21:57:33 | ironi | well i got the speaker set for 400 kr at an auction, so i cant expect much |
| 21:57:51 | paron | ohhh it's not the archos which is buzzing |
| 21:57:56 | ironi | no no |
| 21:58:00 | ironi | its prolly the best pc speaker set int he world or something |
| 21:58:06 | ironi | amazing stuff |
| 21:58:14 | ironi | well maybe not the ebst but one of the better |
| 21:58:18 | ironi | thx certified |
| 21:58:25 | paron | which ones? |
| 21:58:32 | ironi | altec lansing ada 885 |
| 21:58:41 | paron | ooooh.. |
| 21:58:45 | ironi | integrated dolby digital decoder |
| 21:58:52 | ironi | massive 120 w rms |
| 21:59:16 | ironi | noone at the auction seemed to know that it wasn't ordinary speakers so i got it cheap |
| 21:59:50 | paron | I'm taking $350 with the charger and extra batteries AND I claim that I've uppgraded the operative system on it!! =) |
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| 22:00:01 | paron | ok |
| 22:00:03 | ironi | paron: u think anyone will pay that much |
| 22:00:38 | paron | not impossible, on blocket.se |
| 22:00:43 | ironi | i guess |
| 22:00:47 | ironi | apron where do u live |
| 22:00:56 | ironi | paron |
| 22:00:59 | paron | sthlm |
| 22:01:03 | paron | why? |
| 22:01:06 | ironi | so have you met björn |
| 22:01:07 | paron | u? |
| 22:01:09 | ironi | me too. |
| 22:01:12 | ironi | huddinge c |
| 22:01:16 | paron | IRL? |
| 22:01:20 | ironi | ye |
| 22:01:24 | paron | no why? |
| 22:01:28 | ironi | just asking |
| 22:01:51 | paron | howan why did u meet björn IRL? |
| 22:01:59 | paron | how and |
| 22:02:06 | ironi | i didnt |
| 22:02:13 | ironi | i jsut wondered if you did know him |
| 22:02:39 | ironi | there was someting about an rockbox meeting a while ago |
| 22:02:41 | paron | ohh I thought u said ye on the question: IRL? |
| 22:02:48 | ironi | no heh |
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| 22:06:01 | coll | anyone here that can help me out with dacner bot?) |
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| 22:06:51 | coll | i got it on irc but i dont know how i can make it respons 2 me |
| 22:12:34 | coll | ah well np) |
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