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| 00:07:25 | devZer0 | wethion: still fsck'in ? |
| 00:07:38 | wethion_ | devZer0: I'm back.. |
| 00:08:42 | wethion_ | Oh, I was called away for a bit.. ext3 tho'. |
| 00:09:08 | wethion_ | what works well for you? |
| 00:10:20 | shayes | Hadaka - looks like that works just fine for now. How often do you recommend updating with one of the daily builds? |
| 00:11:16 | Hadaka | well, you can keep in touch by looking at the mailinglist/commitmails - but in general every time you either find a bug or want to see if there's something new |
| 00:11:32 | Hadaka | I'm not keeping too well in touch with rockbox now, so I'm updating like once a month |
| 00:11:54 | devZer0 | weth: the latest daily build |
| 00:12:03 | wethion_ | Oh. :) |
| 00:12:13 | shayes | OK..I also heard that if you hold down the ON button during bootup you can bypass the Rockbox software...is this true? |
| 00:14:37 | devZer0 | really? |
| 00:16:01 | devZer0 | weth: you are aware of http://www.linux-usb.org/ ? |
| 00:17:03 | devZer0 | there is also a mailinglist |
| 00:18:19 | wethion_ | devZer0: On my way there now.. thanks. |
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| 00:19:09 | devZer0 | http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ is being linked from there - very good, too. |
| 00:20:09 | devZer0 | read: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=563 |
| 00:21:25 | Hadaka | I never had any problems with the archos and usb on linux |
| 00:22:04 | devZer0 | which distrib do you use? |
| 00:22:53 | devZer0 | i use suse - and it works good, too. i have mandrake inside vmware here on my notebook - and it fails. but i`m not shure it |
| 00:23:01 | devZer0 | is because of vmware or mandrake |
| 00:23:18 | Hadaka | devZer0: debian |
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| 00:26:58 | devZer0 | stock kernel or custom one ? |
| 00:27:24 | shayes | Hadaka - another question...how can you rename or delete files from the directory? |
| 00:27:40 | Hadaka | devZer0: self-compiled with kernel-package - but stock kernel source |
| 00:27:56 | Hadaka | shayes: rockbox can't do that yet - you can boot the old archos firmware if you need to do that |
| 00:28:51 | shayes | Hadaka - I am trying to boot the old firmware but can't seem to so it? Can you help...last thing...I almost promise. |
| 00:28:52 | devZer0 | regarding: on the "low level" the code is inside ! successfully deleted some files with some test routines. |
| 00:29:05 | devZer0 | just the ui stuff is missing for that, i think |
| 00:29:37 | devZer0 | pardon - wanted to say: regarding deleting: |
| 00:30:08 | Hadaka | shayes: you need to download a firmware update from the archos site - and name it something else than ajbrec.ajz and place it on the hard-drive - then with rockbox, if you have show files as 'supported' or 'all', you can see the firmware listed - if you try to 'play' it, it will boot it |
| 00:31:59 | shayes | Hadaka - can you use this process in reverse to go back to a Rockbox boot? |
| 00:32:45 | Hadaka | shayes: if you boot another rockbox firmware, then obviously yes - but ofcourse the stock archos firmware doesn't boot anything except itself :) so you have to turn the unit off and back on if you wish to get back to rockbox |
| 00:33:16 | Hadaka | shayes: all your settings are saved through this though, so it should be relatively painless |
| 00:34:28 | shayes | Hadaka - OK...you can't go in reverse because Archos does not give you the option to view all files...? |
| 00:35:00 | Hadaka | shayes: err, no, archos doesn't know how to load firmwares at all |
| 00:35:18 | Hadaka | shayes: it's a feature built into rockbox, archos doesn't have the ability |
| 00:36:05 | shayes | Hadaka - OK...thanks a lot for the help...you just made this player a lot more fun!!!! |
| 00:36:27 | Hadaka | shayes: no problem |
| 00:37:25 | devZer0 | :) never bought a device before and was so happy with that. archos jb with rockbox is really great |
| 00:40:22 | wethion_ | Ok, I have the modules loaded, usb-storage, usbcore, and scsi_mod. still nothing in syslog, lsusb, /proc/devices (save major 180 usb, which has always been there) and nothing from scsiinfo about a new drive. Feh. |
| 00:41:18 | Hadaka | wethion_: have you got any other usb devices you could try? |
| 00:41:49 | wethion_ | Hadaka: I wish.. but no.. umm actually, I just remembered I have my daughter |
| 00:42:00 | wethion_ | 's usb microscope |
| 00:42:15 | devZer0 | usb controller works with windows on the same machine ? did you try that ? you also could try Knoppix Linux Live CD. really great |
| 00:42:34 | Hadaka | wethion_: it would be good to know if the usb ports in general register anything |
| 00:42:42 | wethion_ | how would I tell? |
| 00:42:51 | devZer0 | it has very good automatic hardwaredetection. just to be shure that it`s no problem with the hardware! |
| 00:43:09 | wethion_ | lemme see fi Ican find a utility. BRB. |
| 00:43:23 | Hadaka | wethion_: well, especially with usb debugging turned on - _something_ should happen when any new usb device is stuck in |
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| 00:48:28 | devZer0 | weth: are you really shure your hardware is ok? had seen defect usb ports already ! |
| 00:49:31 | devZer0 | if you have fast internet access, download latest knoppix iso and boot from that. it will detect usb and mount archos jb without problems. |
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| 00:49:50 | devZer0 | if your hardware is ok :) |
| 00:50:44 | devZer0 | there is also bios option for enabling/disabling usb controller on most motherboards - did you check that ? |
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| 00:56:57 | wethion_ | could anything else happen to distract me from this.. My dog just decided to unload her dinner on the living room floor. |
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| 00:59:11 | devZer0 | uuuuh - what a mess :D |
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| 01:00:44 | wethion_ | and she's not a small dog either 1/2 black lab, and 1/2 newfoundland. Heh.. liberal applications of ammonia and disinfectant usually do the trick nicely, as in this case. |
| 01:01:24 | wethion_ | I'll be back in a minute.. I'm going to make sure I didn't turn off the USB settings in the BIOS. |
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| 01:20:39 | wethion | devZer0: you still here> |
| 01:20:40 | wethion | ? |
| 01:22:16 | wethion | Ok, now about this firmware.... |
| 01:24:00 | devZer0 | yes - heavily posting on rockbox mailinglist :D |
| 01:26:44 | wethion | I got it. WOOHOO. I actually had to have my girlfriend tell me I wasn't a moron. can you guess what was wrong? |
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| 01:29:21 | wethion | I'll tell you.. the BIOS. USB ws shut off. I feel like an idiot. |
| 01:29:55 | Hadaka | wethion: ouchie :) well good to know there was nothing fatal there |
| 01:31:35 | ricII | wethion: ooops ;) |
| 01:34:30 | wethion | Yes, to say the least. now I'm looking at the firmware. for a studio, how much better is rockbox that archos firmware? |
| 01:36:30 | Hadaka | wethion: well, go over the feature list in rockbox - and decide if there's things you want |
| 01:36:50 | ricII | wethion it's free! (as in speach) |
| 01:37:32 | wethion | I was doing that.. looks pretty cool. |
| 01:38:06 | wethion | ricII: That's the biggest plus imho. It's simply a matter of moving the file to the drive on the archos? |
| 01:38:56 | Hadaka | wethion: yes |
| 01:39:01 | ricII | wethion yep, properly named the original frimware will load it.. |
| 01:39:48 | wethion | good deal. Hey, thanks to all of you, I really appreciate your patience and assistance. |
| 01:43:01 | Hadaka | no problem |
| 01:45:30 | devZer0 | upps. pardon. was busy for a while. nice, that it was such easy problem. don`t mind about that - such things even happen to experts :D |
| 01:47:25 | devZer0 | may i tell you that this project is NICE ? NICE people on the mailinglist - nice people on the chat - AFAICS (as far as i can see) :D |
| 01:49:05 | ricII | I'm casemodding my recorder... (only mod left) |
| 01:50:09 | ricII | so if I start to type strange things it's the polyester fumes.. |
| 01:51:07 | devZer0 | hi ric ! i also want to do some casemodding. can you send me pics from that, when finished ? i just need some inspiration |
| 01:51:26 | wethion | what are you doing, Dr. Frankenmeister? |
| 01:52:29 | hardeep | check out http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/micromusic_archos_jb20rec.jpg for a pretty nice looking mod |
| 01:53:16 | hardeep | done by someone on the mailing list |
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| 01:53:34 | wethion | hardeep: is that tape I see? |
| 01:53:52 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:53:54 | hardeep | i believe it's a clear case |
| 01:53:56 | devZer0 | if i start typing strange things one day, it`s the soldering fumes i breathed when soldering accupacs for some weeks when working at a rc-model-shop :D |
| 01:53:58 | ricII | mine is looks almost like that (I kept the middel part in for the keys |
| 01:54:02 | PsycoXul | looks like they just removed the cover and taped it together |
| 01:54:03 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 01:54:21 | ricII | tape is to keep the batteries form popping out (there is no case) |
| 01:54:33 | devZer0 | hardeep: this is just a logo mod - just with a jukebox stripped down to the bone :D |
| 01:54:52 | vmars | Ondio? Opinions? |
| 01:54:57 | devZer0 | it`s from me - did that some days ago |
| 01:55:12 | hardeep | ah, heh |
| 01:55:21 | hardeep | vmars: doesn't run rockbox so pass |
| 01:55:33 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:56:32 | vmars | hardeep: ah, any idea how the firmware's differ? |
| 01:56:39 | devZer0 | weth: yes - that is tape - just some tesa-tape :D |
| 01:57:15 | ricII | basicly I'm making a transparent (well yellowwish polyester) case bottom part is already done now the hard part. |
| 01:57:34 | PsycoXul | i like the archos' case personally, except i wish it had a blank aluminum front instead of a wordy plastic one |
| 01:57:36 | hardeep | vmars: i've never seen an ondio and have no idea how well it's firmware works. But if the AJBR is any indication, it's full of bugs |
| 01:57:41 | devZer0 | ric: how will that fit ? |
| 01:58:24 | ricII | like a soap box? |
| 01:58:31 | devZer0 | psy: i don`t like the case at all. i like "clean" designs. wonder why i didn`t buy an iPod :D THAT is really nice design! |
| 01:58:43 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 01:59:02 | ricII | devZer0 no rockbox, no plain 2"5 drive.. |
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| 01:59:03 | PsycoXul | well one of the things that went into my decision on the archos was it's ruggedness |
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| 02:00:29 | PsycoXul | i don't like plastic stuff that'll scatter all over the floor if you drop it heh |
| 02:00:40 | devZer0 | ric: ...no usb2.0.... and much more expensive. thats why i decided to buy archos jb :D |
| 02:00:41 | vmars | hardeep: heh, no doubt ... I can't imagine the firmware would be too different, as they appear ro have the same funcitonality |
| 02:01:23 | devZer0 | vmwars: rockbox is more stable ! |
| 02:01:48 | devZer0 | i have less crashes when playing and recording with that. the original firmware is crap - really ! |
| 02:01:50 | ricII | actuly I wanted a metalcase, but I don't have the tools to make it.. |
| 02:02:04 | devZer0 | ric: want a metal case, too |
| 02:03:11 | vmars | has anyone tried to put rockbox on an Ondio? |
| 02:03:25 | devZer0 | this is nice metalcase: http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/pics/usb20_hdd.jpg - unfortunately too small for archos and not available "separate" |
| 02:03:30 | hardeep | vmars: it wouldn't work... completely different hardware |
| 02:05:37 | vmars | hardeep: hmmm... is there somewhere where they have the hardware specs for an Ondio? (I just got mine yesterday, and don't wanna pull it apart *just* yet :-) ) |
| 02:06:45 | hardeep | vmars: i'm not sure. however, there's obvious differences like flash vs. hard drive |
| 02:07:07 | ClosetPacifist | don't suppose anyone here's tried to get a recorder running on Mac OS X? Cypress's drivers make my tower spit errors and stop at startup... |
| 02:07:33 | vmars | hardeep: yeah, but isn't the harddrive still accesses as a mass storage device, menus look the same |
| 02:09:12 | wethion | ClosetPacifist: there is a #osx available that may be of some help if no one here can. |
| 02:09:59 | wethion | ClosetPacifist: I (just) got it running on Debian, so OS X should be at least possible. |
| 02:10:34 | wethion | ClosetPacifist: can you recompile kernels in OS X? |
| 02:11:16 | devZer0 | can one recompile kernels in nt and win2k/xp ? ;) |
| 02:12:17 | wethion | devZer0: Bleh. smartass. :) OS X is just unix with a pretty shell over it, so I thought it may be possible. |
| 02:13:05 | wethion | Hrm, now there's an idea.. I wonder if anyone has ever tried to build an open source win2k kernel? |
| 02:13:33 | ClosetPacifist | DOH! blasted xchat, thought the yellow text was messages or something |
| 02:17:57 | hardeep | vmars: i don't believe flash based players use fat32 for their filesystem though |
| 02:18:05 | devZer0 | weth: i saw such project, but can`t remember the name anymore |
| 02:18:40 | hardeep | ClosetPacifist: you may want to check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/ |
| 02:18:46 | devZer0 | but - do we need that. if wine would run perfect we wouldn`t need :D |
| 02:18:59 | vmars | hardeep: one of archos's firmware updates allows fat32, so its possible |
| 02:19:20 | hardeep | vmars: hmmm, interesting. |
| 02:19:25 | vmars | any idea how badly I could break this thing if I started plopping on various firmwares? |
| 02:19:25 | wethion | I haven't looked at wine in a while.. how is it goint? |
| 02:19:36 | hardeep | vmars: are the firmware upgrades done in a similar way? |
| 02:19:43 | ClosetPacifist | hardeep: looked through that earlier, but couldn't find anything like my problem |
| 02:19:46 | hardeep | vmars: as the AJBR that is... drop a file in the root folder |
| 02:19:55 | vmars | hardeep: yep, same filename and everything |
| 02:20:10 | vmars | hardeep: mine looks to be about twice the size of the rockbox one |
| 02:20:18 | hardeep | vmars: you really won't do any damage dropping the firmware in... give it a try. :) |
| 02:20:52 | devZer0 | weth: making little steps...going forward..... there is somewhat commercially "enhanced" wine which makes office2k, ie, visio run on linux |
| 02:21:00 | vmars | hardeep: heh, I'm not sure if I trust you. :-) |
| 02:21:12 | devZer0 | its called crossover office. but thats somewhat offtopic. this is #rockbox :D |
| 02:21:21 | hardeep | vmars: the worse that can happen is that it doesn't load... then you just delete it |
| 02:21:30 | vmars | hardeep: will it still register as a USB mass storage device if I bork the firmware? |
| 02:21:54 | vmars | hardeep: or I guess it wil just not load and keep the old firmware in that case .... |
| 02:21:57 | hardeep | vmars: the rom firmware will load |
| 02:22:15 | hardeep | vmars: so rockbox won't have any affect on usb |
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| 02:22:48 | vmars | hardeep: hell, I'll give it a try when I get home (no us cable w/ me) |
| 02:23:08 | vmars | hardeep: have you guys done anything with the FM version of the ajbr? |
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| 02:25:19 | hardeep | vmars: zagor built a version that was recognized by the FM recorder |
| 02:25:31 | hardeep | so it's certainly possible |
| 02:25:43 | hardeep | but more information is needed about the hardware used |
| 02:26:02 | hardeep | (someone needs to open the case and take some pictures) |
| 02:26:43 | vmars | hmm ... it would be fun if I could get this to work on the Ondio |
| 02:27:16 | vmars | particularly if I could monkey with the FM bits of it, as it seems a little bogus |
| 02:27:50 | hardeep | zagor and linus are the guys to talk to... they can tell you what info would help |
| 02:28:06 | hardeep | if you're willing to open the case and stuff that is |
| 02:31:08 | vmars | yeah, it was only 150 bucks, so no huge tragedy if a break it |
| 02:31:24 | devZer0 | 150$ for the fm juke ? |
| 02:31:33 | vmars | no the Ondio |
| 02:31:40 | devZer0 | oh, pardon |
| 02:31:43 | vmars | it has the same fm recorder features though |
| 02:32:21 | vmars | I just posted a inquiry to the main mailing list to see if anyone has any ideas |
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| 02:40:17 | vmars | oh well, thanks for the info |
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| 02:58:29 | devZer0 | bye - have to leave for bed. CU soon. |
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| 03:15:11 | Jet8810 | hey guys |
| 03:15:13 | Jet8810 | anybody life? |
| 03:15:14 | Jet8810 | live |
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| 03:26:26 | Jet8810 | heh, this really does suck...not only do I leave my archos 20gb recorder mp3 player ($270) on an airplane, but there are no true upgrades anyway, so will end up repurchasing the same device lol |
| 03:26:34 | Jet8810 | now IF rockbox supported the FM recorder...lol |
| 03:27:12 | PsycoXul | electric yellow's got me by the brain bannana |
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| 03:29:51 | Jet8810 | lol |
| 03:29:52 | Jet8810 | ok... |
| 03:30:47 | ClosetPacifist | thanks for the suggestions earlier- odly, when I reinstalled the drivers and restarted, it worked fine. |
| 03:31:09 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 03:31:15 | Jet8810 | I see you now accept donations |
| 03:31:17 | Jet8810 | who do they go to? |
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| 04:08:24 | EGM92 | Hi isanyone here? |
| 04:08:43 | * | ClosetPacifist is. |
| 04:09:26 | EGM92 | great!! |
| 04:09:58 | EGM92 | HI, I just boghut a Jukebox 6000 20GB and I got some questions that the manual can't answer would u help me? |
| 04:10:37 | ClosetPacifist | I'll try, sure. |
| 04:11:31 | EGM92 | ok, I hooked it up to the DC adaptor now, it says "battery charging..." how do I know when it's done charging? |
| 04:12:17 | ClosetPacifist | it'll change that to say "battery charged." |
| 04:13:07 | EGM92 | oh ok, but untill then I won't be able to turn it on right? |
| 04:14:17 | ClosetPacifist | well, if you turn it on normally and then plug in the adaptor you'll be able to use it anyway, or if you install the rockbox firmware you can press on while it's charging todo so |
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| 04:16:00 | EGM92 | ok, sweet, problem is... I don't know how install firmware on this thing yet, I created the directory .rockbox, and put in the ARCHOS.MOD file but what am I supposed to do after that? |
| 04:16:46 | ClosetPacifist | cool- only thing you've got wrong is that the archos.mod file has to go into the root directory of the jukebox, not in the .rockbox folder |
| 04:17:03 | ClosetPacifist | then when you turn it on it should use rockbox |
| 04:17:17 | EGM92 | oh I see hold on let me do that then |
| 04:20:08 | EGM92 | ok I put the archos.mod in the root directory |
| 04:20:22 | EGM92 | After I do that how can I use it while it's cahrging? |
| 04:20:50 | ClosetPacifist | when it displays "battery charging..." you just hold down the on key for a bit |
| 04:21:05 | EGM92 | which key? |
| 04:21:59 | ClosetPacifist | ack- think the on key, not sure about the player |
| 04:22:43 | PsycoXul | indeed, the On key |
| 04:23:05 | EGM92 | ok I heldthe "on" key and now it activated the HDD and it took me to a screen, "Jukebox 6gb ver: 5.02" and that's it |
| 04:23:21 | PsycoXul | uh it should keep going.. no matter what heh |
| 04:23:48 | EGM92 | .... |
| 04:24:57 | EGM92 | it doesn't take me any further then that |
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| 04:25:26 | PsycoXul | is the harddrive spinning up all the way? or is it trying over and over? |
| 04:25:59 | EGM92 | well.. I don't know it's the first time using it |
| 04:26:17 | EGM92 | I hear the hardrive its gonig like tick tick tick tick tick |
| 04:26:25 | PsycoXul | ok |
| 04:26:35 | PsycoXul | then it doesn't have enough power to spin up |
| 04:26:46 | PsycoXul | you need to let it charge up longer heh |
| 04:27:15 | EGM92 | ok lol, but I got the DC adaptor |
| 04:27:22 | PsycoXul | that just charges |
| 04:27:43 | PsycoXul | the HD spinning up still takes more power than the charging circuit provides, so the batteries need to have enough power to do it |
| 04:27:49 | EGM92 | oh ok so I'll leave it cahrge for another 5 hours and then it should start spinning? |
| 04:27:59 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 04:28:06 | EGM92 | ok thanks guys |
| 04:28:09 | PsycoXul | but make sure to turn it off so the hd's not sucking the power trying to spin up |
| 04:28:12 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:29:27 | EGM92 | ummm... Well it's charging now, it says "BATTERY CAHRGING..." |
| 04:29:31 | PsycoXul | ok |
| 04:30:55 | EGM92 | Damn, I wantd to get a recorder but I didn't have the money for it, would come in usefull for playnig those ltile games |
| 04:31:03 | EGM92 | little games* |
| 04:44:54 | PsycoXul | heh yeah |
| 04:44:55 | PsycoXul | oh well |
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| 05:59:25 | secher | ls |
| 05:59:41 | secher | hey folks, is there anyone watching? |
| 05:59:51 | PsycoXul | i just came in in time to see you |
| 05:59:52 | PsycoXul | mwahahhaha |
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| 06:00:15 | secher | Ok, was wethion doing anything for the past 15 minutes or so? |
| 06:00:50 | PsycoXul | nobody did anything for a full 40 minutes before you joined |
| 06:01:53 | secher | Ok, some dude tried to DCC me, I told him to bugger off, and suddenly my network connection was flooded. After I shutdown and rebooted, I logged in and my nick was taken. Very off.. |
| 06:01:58 | secher | s/odd/off/ |
| 06:02:15 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 06:02:34 | PsycoXul | is that the nick wethion? |
| 06:02:51 | secher | Yes. |
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| 06:03:28 | secher | someone was DOSing another host on my subnet via me. ethereal reported well over a thousand packets a minute. |
| 06:03:40 | PsycoXul | weird |
| 06:04:02 | secher | Ok, I have to see how they did it, and make sure that nothing was left. Thanks. |
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| 09:53:47 | dwihno | *yawn* |
| 09:54:34 | Zagor | http://bjorn.haxx.se/linuxcstrike.jpg |
| 09:54:50 | dwihno | How are you Z? Had a nice vacation? |
| 09:54:51 | Zagor | wine rocks |
| 09:55:04 | Zagor | yup, very nice |
| 09:55:20 | Zagor | i love real winters |
| 09:55:41 | dwihno | So you left Stockholm? :-) |
| 09:56:06 | dwihno | I got a water boiler this christmas, so now my tea addiction will never end :-) |
| 09:56:12 | Zagor | hah, yes. but we have a great winter here too. plenty of snow and cold weather |
| 09:57:08 | dwihno | How do you make all rockbox-related mails go to a separate mailbox? |
| 09:57:17 | Zagor | procmail |
| 09:57:28 | dwihno | ah |
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| 10:01:51 | hardeep | anyone know of a good mp3 editor for win32? preferably freeware |
| 10:03:36 | dwihno | mp3 editor? |
| 10:03:48 | dwihno | There's some frame editing software which is free |
| 10:03:56 | Zagor | i don't |
| 10:04:17 | hardeep | dwihno: yeah, that's what i'm looking for |
| 10:04:23 | dwihno | hardeep: wait and I'll check |
| 10:09:43 | dwihno | hardeep: http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~pesch/ (mp3DirectCut is the name) |
| 10:10:02 | hardeep | cool, thanks |
| 10:22:52 | hardeep | worked beautifully, thanks again. :) |
| 10:23:56 | dwihno | No problemo |
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| 11:48:12 | adi|home | Zagor.. just wanted you to know before i went to sleep |
| 11:48:22 | adi|home | i oughta slap you for running gnome :) |
| 11:49:16 | adi|home | afterstep > Zagor |
| 11:49:22 | * | adi|home is away: sleep |
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| 12:23:50 | Zagor | how do you guys feel about publishing the names of donors? such as a small frame listing the 5 latest? |
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| 12:30:46 | elinenbe | Zagor: sounds good. |
| 12:30:59 | elinenbe | Zagor: did you get the $10000 USD donation from me? |
| 12:40:10 | Zagor | not yet :) |
| 12:51:46 | dwihno | Zagor: how much has been donated? |
| 12:53:35 | Zagor | over $300 |
| 12:54:59 | langhaarrocker | and how much is the MMJB? :) |
| 12:55:31 | Zagor | hehe |
| 12:55:40 | Hadaka | whoa, debian's 'gcc' jumped from 2.95 to 3.2.2 today |
| 12:55:53 | Zagor | stable? |
| 12:56:05 | langhaarrocker | neigh |
| 12:56:12 | langhaarrocker | (just kidding) |
| 12:56:43 | Hadaka | unstable |
| 12:56:52 | Zagor | ok |
| 12:57:10 | Hadaka | but this means that all packages compiled will use 3.2.2 instead of 2.95 since they compile with 'gcc' unless otherwise noted |
| 12:57:23 | Zagor | yes |
| 12:57:39 | Zagor | 3.2 has some rocking good optimisations |
| 12:58:07 | Hadaka | netbsd is jumping from 2.95 to 3.3 "soon" ;) |
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| 13:09:38 | * | dwihno knows nothing about compilers. |
| 13:09:46 | dwihno | "As long as they compile the code"... :-) |
| 13:09:53 | dwihno | -ffast-math |
| 13:09:58 | dwihno | -funroll-loops |
| 13:38:56 | EGM92 | Hey guyys, I left my JB cahrging alst nigt when I woke up there was a msg on the screen like MD ERROR or HD ERROR I couldn't really see i was still gettting up, waht does this mean? i can't turn it on if I unplug the JB |
| 13:40:26 | EGM92 | When I got up I heard the hardrive trying to spin, but it wouldn't fully spin and it was at that screen |
| 13:43:54 | EGM92 | I need to get this baby up and running so I can get all my tunes in here, I'm able to use it to store stuff at the moment, like my porgrams and stuff but nothing more |
| 13:44:28 | langhaarrocker | It does work with the power adapter plugged in? |
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| 14:46:07 | kargatron | Zagor_: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=649549 |
| 14:46:16 | kargatron | i don't suppose you grabbed that track referenced there? |
| 14:46:31 | kargatron | while i was on vacation, my web host lost all data |
| 14:46:44 | kargatron | so i'm wondering whether I should upload the problem track again |
| 14:47:57 | Zagor_ | i think i have it at home |
| 14:48:10 | Zagor_ | but i'm not sure |
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| 14:48:24 | kargatron | well, i'll try to ask later to make sure |
| 14:48:54 | kargatron | since i renamed the track, i don't actually remember which one it was :-/, tho i guess i could easily find another where %ig is null |
| 14:48:55 | kargatron | no biggie |
| 14:49:02 | Zagor | ok |
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| 15:35:10 | kargatron | i asked yesterday about the program that fixed the VBR headers, don't remember if it was answered - anyone know offhand? |
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| 15:51:25 | Zagor | wasn't it called vbrfix or some such? |
| 15:53:40 | kargatron | google seems to think so :) |
| 15:54:48 | kargatron | thx |
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| 16:02:25 | Zagor | christ! load average: 23.77, 12.40, 6.30 |
| 16:02:37 | dwihno | Cool :D |
| 16:02:43 | dwihno | Load average for everyone! |
| 16:02:58 | Schnueff | wow, nice curve |
| 16:03:09 | Zagor | that's my apartment web server. apparently the whole of sweden stops working at 4pm and starts hitting my server... |
| 16:03:35 | _2deep4u_ | load average: 0.31, 0.26, 0.27 |
| 16:03:39 | _2deep4u_ | ;o) |
| 16:04:02 | langhaarrocker | No unix -> no load ... |
| 16:04:27 | kargatron | no unix -> no understandy above :) |
| 16:04:36 | _2deep4u_ | unix - still don't understand |
| 16:05:34 | langhaarrocker | don't want load average, want save peak... |
| 16:10:59 | _2deep4u_ | I just told thi skid to use napster |
| 16:11:06 | _2deep4u_ | and he is searching google for a dl |
| 16:11:45 | kargatron | napster remains in some usable form? thought it was completely defunct |
| 16:13:51 | _2deep4u_ | it's extinct |
| 16:13:55 | _2deep4u_ | which is why it's funny |
| 16:15:09 | kargatron | misleading advice is funny? depends on the situation, but <scold>usually not</scold> |
| 16:15:25 | _2deep4u_ | :) |
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| 17:54:28 | strwdle | I need some assitance |
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| 18:12:23 | strwdle | could somebody please give me some advice? |
| 18:14:19 | kargatron | email might be your better bet, given lack of response here |
| 18:14:30 | strwdle | well I tried ng's |
| 18:14:40 | strwdle | but for some reason my posts don't show up |
| 18:15:03 | kargatron | try the yahoogroup archosjukebox6000, or the rockbox email list |
| 18:15:28 | strwdle | okedokes |
| 18:15:29 | strwdle | thanks |
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| 18:30:42 | hardeep | morning all |
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| 19:34:08 | BeanTownTony | is there a meeting in progress? :) |
| 19:35:18 | BeanTownTony | ******* I just wanted to give you guys props. I was about |
| 19:35:42 | BeanTownTony | ******* to take this piece of shit back to the store. Keep it up! |
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| 20:51:10 | Zagor | does anyone know if it's ok for foo@host.bar.com, that host.bar.com does not have an MX record? |
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| 20:51:27 | Zagor | if host.bar.com is a specific host |
| 20:54:21 | hardeep | if the MX record doesn't exist... doesn't it just use the standard ip address mapping (A record iirc) |
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| 20:56:37 | Zagor | i don't know. that's why i'm asking :-) |
| 20:56:40 | hardeep | yeah, that's how it works... see: http://lists.megacity.org/pipermail/rfci-discuss/2002-June/000720.html |
| 20:57:08 | Zagor | ah, goodie. so actually one should first look for an A entry and then an MX entry |
| 20:57:21 | Zagor | oh, no. mx first. |
| 20:57:26 | Zagor | thanks |
| 20:57:27 | hardeep | mx first, nod |
| 20:58:02 | Zagor | just curious, how did you search to find that. i couldn't convince google to find anything related. |
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| 21:03:15 | hardeep | i think i searched for "no mx record" |
| 21:10:52 | Zagor | bah. too simple :-) |
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| 21:44:20 | EGM92 | Hey is anyone aronud? |
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| 21:47:11 | kargatron | i suppose i must answer yes, though fear such fact may not be relevant :) |
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| 21:52:24 | EGM92 | lol |
| 21:53:46 | EGM92 | I got a question about mt JB 6000 |
| 21:55:10 | EGM92 | I left it charging over night and when I woke up I got a message MD error, or HD ERROR something like that, I couldn't really see it I was still waking up when I unplugged the DC adaptor and tried to press the ON button nothing happened, and when I plugged in the DC again it said bATTERY CHARGING... any specific reason for this? |
| 21:56:34 | * | adi|work shrugs |
| 21:56:46 | EGM92 | damn |
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| 22:28:20 | EGM92 | is there anyone who is willing to help me with some questions? if so please PM me |
| 22:31:30 | kargatron | post the subkject matter - individuals know some stuff, but only Zagor knows all :) |
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| 22:34:30 | EGM92 | ah Ic, is he a programmer for Rockbox? |
| 22:36:15 | kargatron | the main one, but in any case, no one knows to try to help you unless you say what you need help with. |
| 22:36:34 | EGM92 | lol |
| 22:36:34 | EGM92 | k |
| 22:39:39 | EGM92 | Well I got some question about the battery, I've charged it for a long while yesterday from like 6pm to like 7 this morning and when I woke up i looked at it and it gave me a message, when I tried to turn it on, it didn't turn on the green light didn't even flash, how do i know if it's actually charging? it says "BATTERY CAHRGING..." right now, but it the LCD screen green light supposed to be off? or is it supposed to be on when i |
| 22:42:03 | Zagor | do you have it here now? |
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| 22:47:51 | Zagor | EGM92: ? |
| 22:53:39 | Hadaka | hmh, pilchie apparently wanted to speak to me four and a half hours away |
| 22:54:00 | Zagor | browsing logs, eh? ;) |
| 22:54:08 | Hadaka | err, different channel, but yes :) |
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| 23:40:12 | kargatron | speaking (list-wise) of this path 'problem', does dos 'dir' have a relative path option? can't find it... |
| 23:46:40 | MrSnazz | relative, as in doing a dir relative to the currently selected directory? |
| 23:47:16 | MrSnazz | if I were in c:\foo\bar, and wanted a directory of c:\winnt\system32, I could type "dir ..\..\winnt\system32" and get a directory, yes. |
| 23:48:11 | kargatron | relative path output |
| 23:48:42 | kargatron | being in foo\bar, and not getting that in outputted path |
| 23:49:40 | MrSnazz | sorry, don't understand what you mean. :) |
| 23:51:07 | kargatron | instead getting of c:\foo\bar\file1, c:\foo\bar\file2, just getting file1, file2 list output |
| 23:51:31 | kargatron | was in reference to recent list-noise about the problem of wrong paths |
| 23:52:09 | MrSnazz | dir /B |
| 23:52:49 | MrSnazz | to exclude directories, dir /A-D /B |
| 23:52:58 | MrSnazz | yeilds only a list of files |
| 23:53:40 | MrSnazz | I tested this with the winnt command prompt, so mileage may varry. |
| 23:54:54 | kargatron | ah, but dir /S /B always includes full path |
| 23:54:59 | kargatron | that's what was throwing me |
| 23:55:07 | MrSnazz | ah |
| 23:55:20 | kargatron | is still throwing me, regarding 'dir' |
| 23:55:37 | MrSnazz | hmm, not sure of a way around that using dir. |
| 23:55:46 | kargatron | my original qstn :) |
| 23:55:49 | MrSnazz | ;) |
| 23:57:32 | Zagor | go to the directory. run dir. presto, relative paths |
| 23:58:23 | kargatron | E:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck>dir /B /S |
| 23:58:23 | kargatron | dir /B /S |
| 23:58:23 | kargatron | E:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck\Beck - 05 - Live at W 54th - Debra.mp3 |
| 23:58:23 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK kargatron |
| 23:58:23 | kargatron | E:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck\Beck - 09 - Live at W 54th - Derelict.mp3 |
| 23:58:50 | kargatron | no see-ey relativey |
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