| 00:01:29 | kargatron | it's not a 'real' problem for me, since i only use dir after the fact on the jb, and don't care about moving them around - was just curious, since it's a recommended playlist-making method inthe faq, and people are complaining about abd paths |
| 00:01:42 | kargatron | abs |
| 00:03:52 | MrSnazz | you could use a text editor and to a search-replace for the current path, replace with blank. |
| 00:04:03 | MrSnazz | that would yeild a directory output with relative paths. |
| 00:04:05 | kargatron | of course |
| 00:04:21 | MrSnazz | or any number of scripting options :) |
| 00:04:29 | kargatron | just wondering if i was missing a 'dir' option itself, is all |
| 00:04:37 | MrSnazz | ahh |
| 00:04:50 | kargatron | i don't have any pl problems myself - wondering about efficacy of FAQ advice |
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| 00:15:52 | Zagor | i think maybe this is a question of differences between win versions. |
| 00:16:56 | kargatron | maybe, i'm just trying locally with win2k |
| 00:17:16 | Zagor | i'm pretty sure I tested it before adding it to the faq |
| 00:17:59 | MrSnazz | I tried it under win2k's cmd.exe shell, and under command and cmd.exe on xp. I don't have 98 handy, so I can't try that. |
| 00:18:08 | kargatron | well, of course it works fine if you make the playlists on the jb. but it would fail with win2k if you did it before. |
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| 00:20:21 | Jet8810 | I may end up leaving rockbox world :( |
| 00:20:31 | hardeep | blasphemy! |
| 00:20:32 | Jet8810 | left archos on airplane and may end up buying creative 20gb |
| 00:20:45 | MrSnazz | :O |
| 00:21:04 | Naked | what does the creative 20gb provide? |
| 00:21:05 | Zagor | why on earth would you do that? seriously? |
| 00:21:29 | Jet8810 | better sound quality |
| 00:21:37 | Zagor | bollocks |
| 00:21:40 | MrSnazz | demonic posession is really the only explanation. |
| 00:21:53 | Jet8810 | and...gasp...more refined GUI (actually I mean it has queuing abilities) |
| 00:22:24 | Zagor | have you really compared the JBR and the Creative? I have, JBR won. |
| 00:22:34 | Zagor | for sound quality, I mean |
| 00:23:01 | MrSnazz | Jet8810: if you do buy one, come back and let us know how you think it compares |
| 00:23:12 | Zagor | indeed |
| 00:23:19 | Naked | actually, I've been bothered by extraneous sound with rockbox as well - the archos noise was unbearable |
| 00:23:51 | Zagor | Naked: I know Linus' unit makes some noise too. mine is completely silent with Rockbox. |
| 00:23:59 | MrSnazz | my sister has a noise problem with her unit, but if she lowers the volume below 90%, it disappears |
| 00:24:16 | MrSnazz | her unit resets back to 100% for some reason when she resets it, though. |
| 00:24:17 | Naked | Zagor: I suspect you do have headphones that are reactive enough? |
| 00:24:18 | kargatron | yow, when is her volume >90? |
| 00:24:27 | Zagor | Naked: yes, I compared with the same headphones |
| 00:24:28 | MrSnazz | kargatron: its there whenever she turns it on |
| 00:24:40 | MrSnazz | I told her to download the latest daily, but havn't heard back yet. |
| 00:25:01 | Jet8810 | yea, above 90%= bad sound |
| 00:25:11 | Naked | Zagor: what's the sound linus's unit does like? |
| 00:25:12 | Jet8810 | and some songs are low |
| 00:25:15 | Zagor | above 90% = distortion, generally |
| 00:25:24 | Naked | above 90% eardrums burst |
| 00:25:24 | kargatron | i go up to 90 for my lineout config, but never tried higher |
| 00:25:30 | Jet8810 | lol |
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| 00:25:36 | kargatron | well, even 90 is not line level |
| 00:25:37 | Zagor | Naked: it's a quite smooth noise |
| 00:25:43 | kargatron | if hooking to stereo |
| 00:25:45 | Jet8810 | I am debating it though |
| 00:25:48 | Naked | oh gods, I once had 85 as volume when I put headphones on - I never want to experience that again |
| 00:25:48 | Zagor | as in white noise |
| 00:25:54 | Naked | Zagor: for me it's not that |
| 00:25:58 | Jet8810 | honestly, how long until queuing is a reality on rockbox? |
| 00:26:04 | Naked | Zagor: it's a low thudding sound, about 2 hz |
| 00:26:11 | Zagor | Naked: !! |
| 00:26:15 | MrSnazz | naked: me too, after I had it hooked up to my car's aux.. I had cranked the volume on the unit and forgot :) |
| 00:26:26 | kargatron | Jet8810 if you compile from cvs, you can include hardeep's queueing patch now |
| 00:26:51 | Jet8810 | I cant though hehe |
| 00:26:57 | Naked | Zagor: 2 hz frequency between beats ofcourse :) |
| 00:27:06 | kargatron | have hardeep send you a .ajz :) |
| 00:27:27 | Zagor | we'll merge his patch soon |
| 00:28:29 | Naked | Zagor: I'm considering sticking a cable between the ear plug and line-in on my laptop and recording you some of this noise :) |
| 00:28:40 | Jet8810 | and where do I see queue lists zagor? |
| 00:28:56 | Zagor | Naked: hehe |
| 00:28:59 | Jet8810 | how would you access them? |
| 00:29:39 | Zagor | umm, don't remember |
| 00:30:10 | hardeep | Jet8810: it's a file located in the .rockbox directory (with my patch at least) |
| 00:30:21 | Zagor | oh, he's alive! |
| 00:30:29 | hardeep | sorta, kinda heh |
| 00:30:42 | Jet8810 | heh hardeep |
| 00:30:48 | Jet8810 | so whats ETA on cvs compilation? |
| 00:31:02 | Jet8810 | this could very well determine whether or not I rebuy recorder LOL |
| 00:31:13 | hardeep | i can give you one right now if you want heh... |
| 00:31:24 | Jet8810 | a .ajz? |
| 00:31:25 | hardeep | but i guess you need the device to make use of it. |
| 00:31:31 | Jet8810 | emulator to test it hehe |
| 00:31:31 | hardeep | yeah |
| 00:31:49 | Jet8810 | and it works good though? |
| 00:32:05 | Jet8810 | so there is a file in .rockbox you open and then you queue in that or what? |
| 00:32:25 | hardeep | nah, just hold play for a couple of seconds on the track you want to queue |
| 00:32:31 | hardeep | and it's queued |
| 00:32:43 | hardeep | that part can be changed if people don't like it |
| 00:32:43 | Jet8810 | and how do you view queue list? |
| 00:32:46 | Jet8810 | open file in .rockboix? |
| 00:32:59 | hardeep | i guess, it's not possible to do from the device right now |
| 00:33:01 | Jet8810 | .rockbox even |
| 00:33:11 | Jet8810 | and then to delete songs from queue list? |
| 00:33:16 | Jet8810 | still needs to be ironed out as well? |
| 00:33:21 | hardeep | that functionality isn't in... |
| 00:33:40 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 00:33:54 | Jet8810 | so I would queue say, 15 songs, then to get rid of all of them and start fresh? |
| 00:34:15 | Jet8810 | how would I do that I mean |
| 00:34:21 | hardeep | restart the playlist (or directory) |
| 00:34:40 | hardeep | with my current implementation |
| 00:34:45 | Jet8810 | so just find a file and hit play without holding? |
| 00:34:48 | hardeep | deletion and editing will be added |
| 00:34:52 | hardeep | yeah |
| 00:35:20 | Jet8810 | and how long before deletion and editing is added? |
| 00:35:42 | hardeep | when I or someone else get around to it. :) |
| 00:35:43 | PsycoXul | heh wtf man |
| 00:35:52 | Jet8810 | trying to figure out which unit to buy now...this made it that much harder hehe...creative os still more refined and better sound quality and extra battery slot, but rockbox smaller and usb 2.0 |
| 00:35:57 | Jet8810 | what psyco? |
| 00:36:29 | PsycoXul | queuing and playlist building/editing etc stuff is probably the next big things to go into rockbox |
| 00:36:43 | PsycoXul | you're a little too "now" worried about something thats inevitable |
| 00:36:58 | Jet8810 | true |
| 00:37:01 | Zagor | Jet8810: as I said, creative doesn't really have better sound quality. nor do I believe their software is much of a hoot |
| 00:37:02 | Jet8810 | but I am impatient :) |
| 00:37:23 | Jet8810 | well I remember it being more user friendly from my 6gb creative days |
| 00:37:49 | Zagor | which archos did you have? |
| 00:37:56 | Jet8810 | recorder 20gb |
| 00:38:06 | MrSnazz | is anything happening on all-file shuffling without a huge playlist? I had an idea which would be small to implement, but didn't want to duplicate somebody else's existing efforts... |
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| 00:38:29 | Zagor | MrSnazz: it won't be added. all-file shuffle is done with a playlist. |
| 00:38:40 | Zagor | we'll simply add playlist creation instead |
| 00:38:42 | Jet8810 | really boils down to whether want to try something new or stay with old faithful lol |
| 00:38:42 | MrSnazz | Zagor: alrighty, I'll just add it to my own copy :) |
| 00:39:10 | Zagor | MrSnazz: what's your method? random on each dir level? |
| 00:39:17 | MrSnazz | Zagor: yeah |
| 00:39:51 | Zagor | that's what I guessed. that's random, not shuffle. and a bad random at that. and you'll get repeated songs and all kinds of other nasties. |
| 00:40:01 | Zagor | playlists rock :-) |
| 00:40:13 | MrSnazz | I disagree that its a bad random :) |
| 00:40:18 | MrSnazz | But thanks for the opinion :) |
| 00:40:27 | Jet8810 | so I can make .m3u playlists and they will work right? |
| 00:40:33 | Jet8810 | just make em in musicmatch |
| 00:40:44 | Zagor | of course it is. say you have two dirs: one with 500 songs, and one with 2 songs. those 2 songs will be repeated LOTS more than the 500 songs |
| 00:41:03 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 00:41:05 | Zagor | that's a bad random |
| 00:41:09 | MrSnazz | Well duh |
| 00:41:11 | Jet8810 | I am staying with archso heh |
| 00:41:19 | MrSnazz | I have a way around that issue. |
| 00:41:20 | Jet8810 | see much more possiblity with open source then creative and usb 2.0 |
| 00:41:23 | Zagor | you do? |
| 00:41:26 | MrSnazz | Yup |
| 00:41:49 | Zagor | Jet8810: usb2.0 is very nice |
| 00:41:52 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 00:41:56 | Zagor | MrSnazz: how? |
| 00:42:03 | Jet8810 | so you are all trying to get a way to random play the entire disk? |
| 00:42:22 | Zagor | Jet8810: i've been shuffle-playing my entire disk since, oh, june or so |
| 00:42:52 | Jet8810 | big playlist heh |
| 00:42:52 | Jet8810 | I knew that! :) |
| 00:43:00 | Jet8810 | I am new at playlists |
| 00:43:09 | Jet8810 | got to go |
| 00:43:10 | Jet8810 | bye |
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| 00:43:15 | MrSnazz | my method isn't exactly what you described. It does go directory-by-directory, but during an initial count stage. Once it has the total number of files, it picks a value in that range, then iterates over directories until that file number is reached. |
| 00:43:23 | Zagor | of course. it's the only way to do true shuffle with perfect resume and the other features we like |
| 00:44:08 | Zagor | MrSnazz: christ! you don't have a big disk, do you? I have 7600 files on my archos. I'd hate to look up the last ones... :-) |
| 00:44:17 | MrSnazz | lol |
| 00:44:27 | MrSnazz | I have a 20gb jbr :) |
| 00:44:32 | MrSnazz | Its not as slow as it sounds ;) |
| 00:44:47 | Zagor | why aren't you using a playlist? |
| 00:44:50 | MrSnazz | anyway, I was just curious. I can see that you're not open to the idea, so I'm not going to waste any additional time |
| 00:45:36 | MrSnazz | zagor: if there's a quick menu option added to create an all-file playlist on the unit, I'd probably use a playlist. |
| 00:46:33 | Zagor | i still don't get it. how does music end up on your archos? answer: you plug it into your computer and copy the files. why not spend an extra 30 seconds and make a global playlist while it's connected? |
| 00:47:00 | Zagor | anyway, playlist creation *will* be added, so we can drop the issue :-) |
| 00:50:32 | kargatron | plus, MrSnazz, there are easy utilities that will make recursive playlists for every dir in one shot, so an extremely easy workaround exists now |
| 00:51:37 | MrSnazz | I'm not stupid, I'm aware of how easy it is to create a playlist. I'm merely interested in an alternative. |
| 00:54:00 | kargatron | it's just your interest that puzzles us - we're not calling you stupid :) |
| 00:54:21 | kargatron | plus, recursively making recursive playlists in one shot isn't obvious :) |
| 00:55:27 | Zagor | hmm, when did sourceforce move us from cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net to cvs.sourceforge.net? |
| 00:56:13 | hardeep | i still use cvs.rockbox.sourceforget.net |
| 00:56:55 | Zagor | i'm silly. ignore me :) |
| 00:57:34 | hardeep | btw, i've got a pretty quick fix for that playlist discussion that's been hounding the mailing list the last few days |
| 00:58:10 | Zagor | the path stuff? |
| 00:58:15 | hardeep | yeah |
| 00:59:05 | Zagor | how many lines? ;) |
| 00:59:25 | hardeep | < 10 heh |
| 00:59:47 | hardeep | actually, i take that back, > 20 :) |
| 00:59:52 | hardeep | http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/playlist_badpath.diff |
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| 01:00:19 | hardeep | er < 20 |
| 01:00:21 | Zagor | exactly what I had in mind |
| 01:00:27 | Zagor | i'll add it |
| 01:00:37 | Zagor | as soon as the *** cvs server wakes up... |
| 01:00:47 | hardeep | heh, yeah, it was slow checking out |
| 01:02:13 | Zagor | weird. from home I can ping cvs.sf.net but not cvs.rockbox*. from work I can ping both! |
| 01:02:34 | Zagor | it's not like work is the other side of the world or anything... |
| 01:03:12 | hardeep | i think cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net is just an alias to cvs.sourceforge.net |
| 01:04:23 | hardeep | yeah, that's what nslookup returns |
| 01:04:24 | Zagor | yeah, but apparently the round-robin dns has given me different IP |
| 01:04:32 | hardeep | hmmm, weird |
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| 01:06:35 | Zagor | ah, works again |
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| 01:37:06 | Naked | hey zagor |
| 01:37:25 | Naked | http://www.saunalahti.fi/~nakedi/thudding.wav |
| 01:38:30 | Zagor | heh |
| 01:39:11 | Naked | it's amplified a lot of times, so imagine it's thudding and ignore the added white noise :) |
| 01:39:36 | Naked | had to put it through the stereo and crank the volume all the way up to hear anything |
| 01:40:06 | Zagor | strange noise. i wonder what it can be. |
| 01:40:21 | Naked | something which happens twice per second ;) |
| 01:40:39 | Naked | oh, it repeated more rapidly when I adjusted the volume by holding down up or down |
| 01:40:48 | Zagor | ! |
| 01:41:23 | Naked | or rather, it gets an uneven beat on top of it |
| 01:41:26 | Naked | ARGH NOOO |
| 01:41:27 | Naked | lemme see |
| 01:41:34 | Naked | AIEE |
| 01:41:38 | Naked | scrolling makes the sound :) |
| 01:41:48 | Naked | if there's nothing scrolling on the screen, no sound :) |
| 01:42:05 | Zagor | ! |
| 01:42:28 | Zagor | does the volume level in rockbox make any difference? |
| 01:42:55 | Naked | no, mute and 0 sound and still hear the same thing |
| 01:43:12 | Naked | oh gods, lemme try some of the demos |
| 01:43:27 | Naked | atleast bounce makes no sound |
| 01:43:42 | Naked | snow makes very rapid little sound |
| 01:43:54 | Naked | oscillograph makes a solid buzz! |
| 01:43:59 | Zagor | i can force a similar sound if I unplug the headphones a bit so they are not properly grounded |
| 01:44:06 | Naked | and cube is relatively lound as well |
| 01:45:01 | Naked | hmm |
| 01:45:38 | Naked | are you able to plug your archos into your stereo and crank the volume _way_ up? |
| 01:46:03 | Zagor | yes. although I don't want to try that now, my gf is sleeping... :-) |
| 01:46:34 | Naked | oh yes, later on you might see if you have the same thing |
| 01:46:49 | Zagor | yup |
| 01:47:14 | Naked | since - I hardly ever turn the volume over 65 with these headphones - and with the original archos firmware, I couldn't get the volume low enough |
| 01:47:22 | Naked | and it's barely audible |
| 01:47:53 | Naked | so I would not even imagine hearing it with any other headphones |
| 01:47:54 | Zagor | ok. what headphones are that? |
| 01:48:37 | Zagor | 65 is about the level I usually listen to at work, actually. cranking up to 70-72 for the bike ride home. |
| 01:48:57 | Naked | koss porta-pro |
| 01:49:09 | Zagor | ok |
| 01:50:28 | Naked | hmmh, perhaps you should make a screen-saver mode for the archos where the display is blanked every time the backlight is turned off :) |
| 01:51:36 | Naked | let's see if we hear a sound when the hd spins up and the cpu has to do the bitflipping |
| 01:51:53 | Zagor | yeah, if people have the same problem as you have that would be useful |
| 01:52:17 | Naked | no, no nothing |
| 01:52:21 | Naked | so it's only the display |
| 01:53:02 | Zagor | you don't hear the hd either? |
| 01:53:49 | Naked | well the hd makes sound physically, but not over the headphones |
| 01:54:38 | Zagor | ok |
| 01:57:56 | Naked | turning backlight on and off creates a tiny tiny sound, but that's not mattering |
| 01:58:31 | Naked | ok well, I guess this is enough finding out for now :) |
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| 02:12:23 | Zagor | well, time for bed. see you tomorrow. |
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| 02:46:44 | elinenbe3 | hardeep: any new stuff with the queue function? |
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| 02:47:05 | hardeep | elinenbe: no, zagor submitted my patch exactly as it was it looks like |
| 02:47:15 | hardeep | i did change the queue limit to 100 last week, that was included |
| 02:47:25 | elinenbe | hardeep: I was wondering if the were any "interna" changes |
| 02:48:03 | hardeep | elinenbe: nope, the change was very specific to queueing |
| 02:48:13 | hardeep | er s/change/patch |
| 02:48:42 | PsycoXul | when's somebody gonna do a real and proper playlist building/editing implimentation? |
| 02:50:12 | hardeep | are you volunteering? :) |
| 02:50:31 | hardeep | i don't think anyone's working on it at the moment |
| 02:51:07 | PsycoXul | seems kinda strange |
| 02:51:28 | elinenbe | hardeep: I heard you were volunteering for recursive playing |
| 02:51:30 | elinenbe | :) |
| 02:51:32 | PsycoXul | personally it's one of the big things i've been waiting for in rockbox |
| 02:52:06 | PsycoXul | i've been without the ability to make decent playlists since i got this thing |
| 02:53:20 | PsycoXul | i never listen to the same playlist twice, archos' firmware is unusably sluggish having to hold a key down on each file to add, and it's directory-add feature fucks up and keeps on adding to the end of the disk... and removing is almost as slow as adding |
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| 02:58:06 | Jet8810 | hardeep , you alive? |
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| 03:04:20 | hardeep | just about to go but can answer a quick question |
| 03:07:19 | hardeep | alas, must go |
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| 03:44:11 | EGM92 | Hey does anyone know, known errors for battery recharging? I need to know what some of these errors mean lol |
| 03:44:28 | PsycoXul | what errors? |
| 03:46:56 | EGM92 | umm I think it was an "HD ERROR" or "MD ERROR" it was earlie morning didn't get a good look at it, I leeft it overnight recahrging, |
| 03:47:24 | EGM92 | I disconnected it and plugged it back in and I got "BATTERY CHARGING..." |
| 03:47:41 | PsycoXul | "HD ERROR" is what i usualy get when the HD can't spin up |
| 03:47:41 | EGM92 | like it wasn';t charged |
| 03:47:53 | EGM92 | yea! it was trynig to spin |
| 03:47:56 | PsycoXul | it'll say "battery charging..." every time you plug it in, whether it was charged or not |
| 03:48:08 | EGM92 | ok |
| 03:48:10 | PsycoXul | you got a player, right? |
| 03:48:17 | EGM92 | yep |
| 03:48:21 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 03:48:24 | PsycoXul | it's charging stuff isn't that smart |
| 03:48:25 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:48:27 | EGM92 | JB 6000 but with a 20gb hdd |
| 03:48:54 | PsycoXul | did you just get it recently? |
| 03:48:58 | EGM92 | yea |
| 03:49:02 | EGM92 | I'm a newb |
| 03:49:14 | PsycoXul | how long'd you let it charge initialy before trying it? |
| 03:49:15 | EGM92 | well i boguht it used on ebay and I got a deal on it |
| 03:49:22 | PsycoXul | oh i see |
| 03:49:32 | PsycoXul | well is it new or old batteries? |
| 03:49:34 | EGM92 | well i tried for like 12hours |
| 03:49:48 | PsycoXul | if they're new batteries just giving them a good long charge should be it |
| 03:49:50 | EGM92 | I don't know... it's the original batteries i guess |
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| 03:50:13 | PsycoXul | if they're somebody's old batteries that they've been running for a year or 2 then they probably won't hold a charge very well any more and need replaced |
| 03:50:39 | EGM92 | hey my hdd jsut started to try to spin |
| 03:50:45 | EGM92 | its liek tick tick tick tick tick |
| 03:50:53 | EGM92 | but it says battery chariging on screren |
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| 03:51:01 | PsycoXul | weird |
| 03:51:36 | EGM92 | it's not fully spinning |
| 03:53:01 | EGM92 | I JST UNPLUGGED IT AND PRESSED THE ON BUTTON BUT I DON'T GET ANYTHING? NOT ERVEN THE GREEN LGIHT TURNS ON |
| 03:53:22 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:53:25 | PsycoXul | pressed or held |
| 03:53:35 | EGM92 | HOLD |
| 03:53:46 | PsycoXul | turn of the capslock :p |
| 03:53:48 | PsycoXul | and uh |
| 03:53:55 | PsycoXul | hold the stop button down for a few seconds |
| 03:54:01 | PsycoXul | see if that does anything |
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| 03:54:24 | EGM92 | no |
| 03:54:46 | PsycoXul | nothing? |
| 03:54:49 | EGM92 | no |
| 03:54:55 | PsycoXul | it doesn't even stop the HD trynig to spin? |
| 03:55:06 | PsycoXul | how long did you hold it for? like 5 seconds? |
| 03:55:17 | EGM92 | i unplugged the dc adaptor |
| 03:55:27 | EGM92 | and i tried to trn it on |
| 03:55:33 | EGM92 | without the dc power |
| 03:55:37 | EGM92 | but it didn't work |
| 03:56:47 | EGM92 | this is really pissing me off |
| 03:57:21 | ^_Pro-289 | In one of the feature requests, 619335, someone asks for a time and battery meter in the USB screen. Then they said it was fixed in CVS. But I've used the daily builds and don't see that feature. Is it only for a certain model of jukebox? |
| 03:57:22 | EGM92 | i tried to run it without the DC adaptor, and it wouldn't even turn on not even a screen would flash |
| 03:57:54 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:58:06 | PsycoXul | EGM92: my guess would be batteries |
| 03:58:12 | PsycoXul | i'd say to get some new ones and try those |
| 03:58:30 | EGM92 | who would know for sure? |
| 03:58:59 | PsycoXul | it's not like buying a set of nimh batteries is a waste of money anyway |
| 03:59:41 | EGM92 | oh ok |
| 03:59:52 | EGM92 | how do i open the JB? |
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| 04:00:16 | PsycoXul | you don't need to |
| 04:00:25 | PsycoXul | the little roundish things on front sides pop out |
| 04:00:53 | PsycoXul | there's instructions in the manual and all over the web |
| 04:02:06 | ^_Pro-289 | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/ ?? |
| 04:03:34 | hardeep | ^_Pro-289: it might be only a recorder feature |
| 04:04:32 | ^_Pro-289 | ahh, didn't know what version he had. |
| 04:05:27 | ^_Pro-289 | so does anyone still work on fixes for the studio 20? |
| 04:07:07 | hardeep | ^_Pro-289: for the most part, the firmware is the same for player and recorder and all fixes made are for both |
| 04:07:28 | hardeep | of course, there are many extra features available for the recorder because of it's lcd screen |
| 04:08:17 | Jet8810 | hardeep! |
| 04:08:21 | Jet8810 | email me the new ajz please! |
| 04:08:37 | hardeep | Jet8810: you can get it from the webpage now, zagor submitted all my changes |
| 04:08:41 | Jet8810 | haha |
| 04:08:42 | Jet8810 | NICE |
| 04:08:44 | Jet8810 | alright |
| 04:08:48 | Jet8810 | now I just need an archos lol |
| 04:09:48 | ^_Pro-289 | well like i said earlier, some posted a usb fix, but I don't see it. maybe it was for the multimedia version only. |
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| 04:10:24 | hardeep | we don't support the archos multimedia on rockbox |
| 04:10:33 | hardeep | only AJB recorder and player |
| 04:10:50 | ^_Pro-289 | ok, well, i wonder what happened to that fix then. |
| 04:11:01 | ^_Pro-289 | i have a studio 20. |
| 04:11:11 | hardeep | post a message to the mailing list, maybe something else had to be enabled as well |
| 04:11:51 | ^_Pro-289 | ok. i already posted one about the USB pitchfork not displaying, but no one replied. |
| 04:12:28 | hardeep | the past few weeks have been quiet because everyone's been on vacation... you will probably get a better response now that everyone's back |
| 04:13:45 | ^_Pro-289 | maybe. but i noticed when I plug my usb cable in while the power was on, the usb pitchfork doesn't appear. but when i remove the device safely, then unplug the usb cable, the pitchfork then appears, while ti's not connected. |
| 04:16:08 | hardeep | the status info is only displayed on the recorder if the statusbar is enabled |
| 04:16:52 | hardeep | as for the pitchfork thing, report a bug |
| 04:17:00 | ^_Pro-289 | ok. so there can't be any changes/fixes to the player regarding the usb display screen? |
| 04:17:36 | ^_Pro-289 | already did. :) http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=660612 |
| 04:18:57 | hardeep | hmmm, what does it show on the second like of the player when the usb cable is connected? |
| 04:19:16 | hardeep | the first line should be showing "[USB Mode]" |
| 04:20:25 | ^_Pro-289 | nothing. it's empty. |
| 04:21:22 | ^_Pro-289 | i see a volume indicator at the top which is useless since i can't change the volume anyway. |
| 04:22:43 | ^_Pro-289 | yea, all I see is "[USB Mode]" and the battery bar, the backwards C arrow, and the volume level. |
| 04:23:26 | hardeep | hmmmm, that's really call you can show... what were you looking for? |
| 04:23:42 | hardeep | there is no clock on the player models so time can't be displayed |
| 04:24:07 | ^_Pro-289 | well you asked what i saw on the second line. |
| 04:24:36 | ^_Pro-289 | i thought there was supposed to be a usb pitchfork. or maybe a battery percentage indicator. |
| 04:25:10 | hardeep | i thought you said you are seeing the battery bar? |
| 04:25:18 | ^_Pro-289 | Since the battery bar does not work, I can never tell how much life I have left when it's in USB mode and I'm not plugged in. |
| 04:25:19 | hardeep | and yes, you should see the usb icon as well |
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| 04:26:01 | EGM92 | Ah shit I'ts my batteries, I jsut checked out some stuff does anyone know where I can get Nihm or something like that batteries? I lvie in Canada |
| 04:26:02 | ^_Pro-289 | I see the battery bar, but not a battery % as I thought someone might have added in a CVS. |
| 04:26:53 | hardeep | hmmmm, i think i see a bug... one sec |
| 04:29:06 | hardeep | ^_Pro-289: do you have your player handy? can you try out an updated firmware for me? |
| 04:29:16 | ^_Pro-289 | sure. |
| 04:29:54 | ^_Pro-289 | it's not gonna freeze my box will it? ;) |
| 04:29:57 | hardeep | http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/archos.mod |
| 04:30:04 | hardeep | shouldn't. :) |
| 04:30:09 | hardeep | let me know if this fixes the display problem |
| 04:30:17 | hardeep | with usb cable plugged in |
| 04:30:53 | ^_Pro-289 | while the power is on, then plug cable in? |
| 04:31:09 | hardeep | yeah, the bug you were reporting |
| 04:31:32 | ^_Pro-289 | ok |
| 04:32:36 | ^_Pro-289 | yes. pitchfork is now there. |
| 04:32:49 | hardeep | battery display still bogus? |
| 04:33:00 | ^_Pro-289 | let me check. |
| 04:33:16 | EGM92 | Hey Hardeep, do you know the average pricnig of a NiMH 1.2v battery? |
| 04:33:23 | ^_Pro-289 | pitchfork still stays after cable is unplugged. |
| 04:33:51 | hardeep | EGM92: haven't a clue. |
| 04:34:11 | hardeep | EGM92: if you're in canada, try the radioshack site, they should carry the batteries |
| 04:34:14 | ^_Pro-289 | batterybar is now animated (charging). |
| 04:34:42 | EGM92 | oh ok |
| 04:34:49 | hardeep | ^_Pro-289: so everything is correct except usb pitchform not disappearing? |
| 04:35:03 | ^_Pro-289 | yea. |
| 04:35:39 | hardeep | okay, gimme a min, i know what the problem is |
| 04:35:47 | ^_Pro-289 | ok. |
| 04:37:53 | hardeep | okay, i updated the archos.mod, same location |
| 04:37:59 | hardeep | could you try this one please? |
| 04:38:07 | ^_Pro-289 | 0k. |
| 04:40:18 | ^_Pro-289 | alright. it's fixed.. |
| 04:41:05 | ^_Pro-289 | you're a genius. :) |
| 04:41:18 | hardeep | heh, not quite |
| 04:41:19 | EGM92 | Hardeep you program firm ire for JB? |
| 04:41:31 | EGM92 | firmware* |
| 04:41:54 | hardeep | EGM92: yes, i'm a developer on the rockbox project |
| 04:42:28 | EGM92 | oh cool, |
| 04:42:54 | ^_Pro-289 | so is there a way to get a battery % on that USB screen? |
| 04:43:26 | hardeep | ^_Pro-289: hmmm, you mean instead of the icon? |
| 04:43:58 | hardeep | ^_Pro-289: as you can tell, I'm fairly unfamiliar with the player display.... is there any other place where you get a battery percentage? |
| 04:43:59 | ^_Pro-289 | well, and the icon. cause the icon is such a small area, probably hard to put text there. |
| 04:44:15 | ^_Pro-289 | yea, the menu->Info. |
| 04:44:36 | ^_Pro-289 | shows "% h m" |
| 04:44:43 | EGM92 | Hey have you been abl to calculate the ammount of time left in the batteries? and put it next to the meter? |
| 04:45:30 | ^_Pro-289 | The info menu even shows it on the correct (second) line. :) |
| 04:46:30 | hardeep | ^_Pro-289: make a feature request for it... you can at least find out if other people are interested in that |
| 04:47:46 | ^_Pro-289 | 0k. I think it'd make a nice request. As now I have to unplug it, then check my battery % (since sometimes the bar could be at 0 and still have a lot of time left), then plug it back in. |
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| 05:37:09 | ^_Pro-289 | i know you're not here right now. but thanks, hardeep, for fixing the bugs. |
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| 09:32:45 | Zagor | hardeep: as you may have seen, I removed the extra delay when queueing files. was there a reason you addeed that? just avoiding mistakes or? |
| 09:35:03 | hardeep | i was just worried about a song queuing when a user wanted to start a new dirplay |
| 09:35:17 | hardeep | but it looks like that's not a problem, even without the delay |
| 09:36:11 | dwihno | How do you use the new queing stuff? |
| 09:36:17 | dwihno | And is file writing solid now? |
| 09:36:43 | hardeep | dwihno: just hold on to play on a track you want to queue |
| 09:37:32 | hardeep | and file writing is very solid, i haven't seen a problem in a while |
| 09:39:20 | dwihno | Hmm, I've read a lot of bug reports regarding recording + file writing |
| 09:39:24 | dwihno | but they might be old aswell |
| 09:40:21 | Zagor | dwihno: nowadays the only recording problem is the mp3 data corruption we get sometimes |
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| 09:45:11 | dwihno | Zagor: That's nice though :-) |
| 09:45:16 | Zagor | yup |
| 09:46:15 | dwihno | Do you know if anyone has started to write a "on-the-fly" playlist generator |
| 09:46:16 | dwihno | ? |
| 09:47:34 | Zagor | bagder talked about doing it before christmas. i don't know if he ever started. |
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| 09:48:42 | bobTHC | good morning! |
| 09:48:45 | dwihno | Good morning! |
| 09:48:49 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:48:49 | * | dwihno hands bob some fika |
| 09:49:14 | Zagor | bobTHC: you're responsible for the french translation, right? |
| 09:49:18 | bobTHC | yep |
| 09:49:34 | bobTHC | some update? |
| 09:49:45 | Zagor | could you handle the other languages too? |
| 09:49:54 | bobTHC | yep |
| 09:50:06 | Zagor | checking patches and merging them if everything seems ok |
| 09:50:49 | bobTHC | with pleasure |
| 09:50:54 | Zagor | excellent |
| 09:51:28 | bobTHC | but i'm not multilanguage talker so for syntax error i cant detect it |
| 09:51:31 | bobTHC | :) |
| 09:51:45 | dwihno | :-) |
| 09:51:48 | dwihno | C'est bien! |
| 09:52:08 | Zagor | no, just check if a patch changes old data. in that case, post a question to the list asking for opinions about the best translation |
| 09:52:43 | bobTHC | oki like i try to do for french.... |
| 09:53:02 | Zagor | yes |
| 09:54:34 | bobTHC | some patch are waiting? |
| 09:56:21 | Zagor | yes, several. look in the patch tracker. |
| 09:56:55 | bobTHC | oki |
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| 10:11:21 | Schnueff | moin |
| 10:11:32 | Zagor | boing |
| 10:11:33 | bobTHC | hi |
| 10:11:40 | Zagor | boom |
| 10:11:46 | Zagor | schack |
| 10:12:00 | Zagor | (or is it tchack?) |
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| 10:12:09 | Schnueff | hm |
| 10:12:11 | quelsaruk | hi all |
| 10:12:19 | Schnueff | maybe tschack |
| 10:12:34 | quelsaruk | and happy new year :) |
| 10:12:37 | Schnueff | Kraftwerk - Boing Bumm Tschak |
| 10:12:42 | Schnueff | :) |
| 10:12:44 | Zagor | ahh |
| 10:13:35 | Zagor | hi quelsaruk! |
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| 11:30:43 | dwihno | What is the mAh on the stock batteries? |
| 11:31:24 | quelsaruk | the ones that come with the archos? 1500 mAh |
| 11:32:01 | dwihno | mkay |
| 11:32:04 | dwihno | I want better batteries :) |
| 11:32:13 | quelsaruk | me too |
| 11:32:16 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:32:34 | quelsaruk | dwihno: you are from france, don't you? |
| 11:32:48 | quelsaruk | aren't |
| 11:32:50 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:32:54 | dwihno | non, je suis pour la suede |
| 11:32:55 | dwihno | or something |
| 11:33:18 | quelsaruk | ahhh |
| 11:33:27 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:34:10 | dwihno | I want a bigger disk |
| 11:36:48 | quelsaruk | and a 8 MB ram expansion? |
| 11:36:49 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 11:38:17 | dwihno | hm |
| 11:38:19 | dwihno | not really :) |
| 11:38:40 | dwihno | But it would be nice. I had insane ideas about supporting several types of audio codec |
| 11:38:43 | dwihno | codecs |
| 11:39:04 | dwihno | software decoding, store to buffer, re-encode, send to MAS :-) |
| 11:41:52 | quelsaruk | i think winter makes some effect on your brain :) |
| 11:42:29 | bobTHC | overclock is ever better when the weather is cold ;) |
| 11:44:24 | dwihno | I think my idea is pretty good :) |
| 11:44:28 | dwihno | What do you think, Zagor? |
| 11:44:40 | dwihno | I better get a second opinion from Linus |
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| 12:08:59 | Zagor | dwihno: software decoding will take ages. you're better off converting on your pc. |
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| 12:12:56 | EXIR | i have a stuppide question how do u selct the lang on a archos studio 20 with rockbox OS? |
| 12:13:15 | Zagor | EXIR: simply play the right language file in .rockbox |
| 12:13:29 | EXIR | wicht file? |
| 12:13:33 | Zagor | we will add a menu interface soon |
| 12:13:33 | EXIR | the .lang |
| 12:13:36 | Zagor | yes |
| 12:13:38 | Zagor | no, the .lng |
| 12:13:42 | EXIR | k |
| 12:13:46 | EXIR | tu |
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| 12:14:25 | bobTHC | zagor lng file was generated evry hour? |
| 12:14:53 | dwihno | Zagor: yeah, I guess converting on the PC isn't that bad. I was thinking about recording. Do you think it's possible to record without compression? |
| 12:15:20 | Zagor | yes. by the way, you should run binlang on the files before committing them. some of them were missing strings |
| 12:15:43 | Zagor | dwihno: only if someone writes dsp code for it |
| 12:15:46 | quelsaruk | that reminds me i have to update spanish lang :) |
| 12:15:53 | quelsaruk | sorry |
| 12:16:00 | Zagor | no worries |
| 12:16:16 | dwihno | Zagor: There should be a way to tell the DSP to give uncompressed audio. |
| 12:17:07 | Zagor | that would be nice, yes |
| 12:17:11 | Zagor | but there isn't |
| 12:17:30 | dwihno | We need the top secret docs! Have you talked to the frenchies? :) |
| 12:18:06 | Zagor | i don't even think the frenchies have such docs. |
| 12:18:39 | dwihno | Okay. So what have you discussed with them this far? |
| 12:18:55 | bobTHC | i sure they have!!! |
| 12:19:38 | bobTHC | with the number of dsp micronas sell to archos they can have it! |
| 12:22:37 | dwihno | Yes. |
| 12:22:51 | dwihno | Zagor only needs to ask politely and we might get some info :) |
| 12:23:41 | bobTHC | :) not so easy but with a little bit of diplomacy and wit good intention from archos perhaps.... |
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| 12:27:39 | Zagor | i think even if archos wanted to, they are not allowed do share the information. micronas guards it very carefully. |
| 12:27:56 | Zagor | also, we don't just need docs. we also need tools. |
| 12:29:22 | dwihno | tools? |
| 12:31:00 | Zagor | compiler |
| 12:31:42 | dwihno | For the MAS?! |
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| 12:31:59 | Zagor | yes. it's a processor. it executes code. |
| 12:32:12 | Zagor | unless you feel like hacking binary machine code, you need a compiler |
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| 12:36:09 | * | dwihno hacks machine code for breakfast |
| 12:36:17 | bobTHC | :) |
| 12:36:24 | bobTHC | gogogog! |
| 12:36:35 | dwihno | With his "EDGE"-knife. I love it. Cuts through everything! |
| 12:36:56 | bobTHC | bye all to much work! |
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| 12:38:36 | exir^F00D | how do u open the .rockbox directory |
| 12:38:37 | exir^F00D | ? |
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| 12:39:11 | quelsaruk | EXIR: open the .rockbox dir where? |
| 12:39:15 | quelsaruk | in the archos? |
| 12:39:19 | EXIR | in the player |
| 12:39:20 | EXIR | yes |
| 12:39:42 | EXIR | because i want to open the lang file |
| 12:39:55 | EXIR | do i have to place it in the main or the .rockbox dir |
| 12:40:26 | quelsaruk | the same asdoesnt' matter right now |
| 12:40:31 | EXIR | ok |
| 12:40:32 | EXIR | tu |
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| 12:40:53 | Schnueff | fast one |
| 12:40:57 | Zagor | actually it does matter. only the one in .rockbox is used next boot |
| 12:41:21 | Schnueff | too slow :) |
| 12:41:55 | quelsaruk | yes? |
| 12:42:00 | quelsaruk | ummm |
| 12:42:20 | quelsaruk | interesting :) |
| 12:42:32 | quelsaruk | you learn something new everyday |
| 12:43:24 | dwihno | Uwe was successful with his alarm mod, cool! |
| 12:47:03 | quelsaruk | great |
| 12:47:38 | Zagor | yeah |
| 12:48:04 | Zagor | quelsaruk: yes only .rockbox is stored as config. that way we don't have to store the path, only the filename |
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| 13:11:27 | quelsaruk | ajam |
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| 13:40:25 | matsl | zagor:? |
| 13:44:46 | * | matsl is away: I'm busy |
| 13:45:16 | Zagor | here |
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| 14:17:19 | werty1st | hello |
| 14:17:46 | quelsaruk | time to go home for lunch |
| 14:17:50 | quelsaruk | cu later |
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| 14:45:40 | * | matsl is away: I'm busy |
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| 14:57:52 | Bagder | hey ho |
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| 15:00:37 | dwihno | Hey ho! |
| 15:01:19 | Zagor_ | baggie! |
| 15:01:26 | dwihno | Bagder: the rumours talk about a certain person writing on-the-fly playlist generation. Do you know of such a thing? ;) |
| 15:01:55 | Bagder | hey, I only whine and complain, I don't actually do anything ;-P |
| 15:01:56 | langhaarrocker | any new rumours about t-shirts? |
| 15:02:47 | * | Bagder points to adi|home |
| 15:03:51 | langhaarrocker | probably adj|home points to adj|work ... |
| 15:04:08 | * | dwihno points to the sky... It's a bird! No, it's an airplane! No, it's Zagor, and look! He has the MAS specs :D |
| 15:04:26 | langhaarrocker | stop dreaming :) |
| 15:06:12 | langhaarrocker | (I couldn't read anything about flying in the MAS specs) |
| 15:06:34 | dwihno | Heh |
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| 15:41:14 | * | Bagder heard rumours about matsl's and Kjell's upcoming player improvements today |
| 15:41:28 | Bagder | seems to be progressing |
| 15:42:00 | Zagor_ | nice |
| 15:42:05 | | Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 15:42:24 | dwihno | A lot of rumours! |
| 15:42:27 | dwihno | MAS MAS MAS! |
| 15:42:55 | dwihno | Do you know why we should talk to Gunde Svan? |
| 15:43:05 | dwihno | Since he's the original DAL-MAS ;D |
| 15:43:10 | dwihno | *roflmao* |
| 15:43:33 | * | Bagder looks at dwihno |
| 15:44:02 | * | matsl is back (gone 00:58:22) |
| 15:44:09 | matsl | Zagor: ? |
| 15:44:09 | * | dwihno looks at matsl |
| 15:44:36 | * | langhaarrocker looks stupid |
| 15:47:05 | Zagor | i'm here |
| 15:48:06 | Naked | yo |
| 15:48:17 | matsl | Zagor: about the battery meter in USB-mode. I can't see it on the player. |
| 15:48:31 | Zagor | ok |
| 15:48:51 | Zagor | tried latest build? hardeep made some changes to that |
| 15:50:15 | matsl | Zagor: Kjer and I are ready with native character support for player. Just need some testing before checkin. |
| 15:51:17 | Zagor | cool! |
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| 16:51:50 | | Part Zagor |
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| 16:53:55 | kargatron | any JBSynch users reading? |
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| 17:02:41 | Bagder | Zagor_: heard anything from Magic Linus lately? |
| 17:03:42 | Zagor_ | no. he's still on the west coast. |
| 17:04:06 | Bagder | yeah |
| 17:05:16 | Zagor_ | we really should kick 2.0 out the door soon |
| 17:05:39 | Bagder | yes, but we should probably add some more features for the recording |
| 17:05:52 | Zagor_ | such as? |
| 17:05:59 | Bagder | pause |
| 17:06:18 | Zagor_ | doesn't sound very difficult :) |
| 17:06:25 | Bagder | and possibly start-a-new-file |
| 17:06:43 | dwihno | and perhaps make the recording rock-solid |
| 17:06:57 | Bagder | I don't think we'll get it better now |
| 17:07:04 | Zagor_ | dwihno: we're not even sure that's possible. it could be a MAS bug. |
| 17:07:18 | dwihno | Zagor_: The dalmas? :) |
| 17:07:32 | Zagor_ | yup. gunde-bugg |
| 17:07:42 | dwihno | :-D |
| 17:08:04 | dwihno | Kom igen, sjätte nykkkeln! |
| 17:09:28 | dwihno | Dethärgårinte.Dagsågåhem. |
| 17:09:30 | | Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) |
| 17:09:37 | dw|gone | Have a nice evening people. |
| 17:09:44 | Bagder | bye dw |
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| 17:13:39 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 17:14:03 | Bagder | hey |
| 17:17:03 | Zagor_ | time to go. see you! |
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| 18:15:14 | elinenbe | is anyone here who knows about fail-over routers? |
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| 18:29:01 | hardeep | what's up with all these duplicated posts to the mailing list? |
| 18:29:44 | Zagor | good question |
| 18:29:55 | Zagor | they have different subjects, so it's the author doing it manually |
| 18:30:20 | elinenbe | the author is a fuck. |
| 18:30:55 | hardeep | laugh, several had the same subject... but i just noticed the text is changing slightly |
| 18:31:21 | elinenbe | okay −− what can you tell me about a linux virtual server? ;) |
| 18:33:46 | hardeep | not a thing... very cool idea though |
| 18:34:41 | elinenbe | I know. I am looking to build a web server for my company that is a fail over server.... 2 cloned machines with seperate IPs behind a router, and if 1 goes down, the other will kick in. |
| 18:36:23 | Bagder | time to run away, see ya |
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| 18:38:12 | Zagor | elinenbe: linux-ha.org |
| 18:39:11 | elinenbe | Zagor: thanks |
| 18:40:18 | elinenbe | Zagor: have you any experience using this? |
| 18:40:38 | Zagor | just a little. we run a failover linux cluster at work |
| 18:41:06 | elinenbe | Zagor: can I ask how it is set up (hardware-wise?) |
| 18:42:08 | elinenbe | Zagor: I need a report in by 3pm (it is almost 1pm here) about how this is going to work. |
| 18:42:20 | Zagor | two identical boxes with a serial cable between them for heartbeat. one is master, the other is standby. if the standby notices the heartbeats are gone, it takes over. |
| 18:42:40 | elinenbe | are they cloned (like do they have the same IP address?) |
| 18:42:43 | Zagor | disk mirroring over normal network |
| 18:42:51 | elinenbe | okay. |
| 18:43:25 | Zagor | they have one ip each, and then share a virtual IP which is the one you use from clients |
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| 18:43:38 | elinenbe | sounds great! |
| 18:43:56 | elinenbe | one more question. |
| 18:44:00 | elinenbe | how is this virtual IP assigned? |
| 18:44:38 | Zagor | i'm not sure |
| 18:44:51 | elinenbe | I have to figure that out. |
| 18:45:04 | elinenbe | you mush have some sort of router dealing with the virtual IP. |
| 18:45:32 | Zagor | not really, we just tell the nearest router that the IP has a new ARP |
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| 18:46:37 | _2deep4u_ | wtf |
| 18:46:46 | _2deep4u_ | i didnt understand what the f you guys just said |
| 18:46:55 | _2deep4u_ | and I like networks :- |
| 18:47:03 | elinenbe | Zagor, and that happens automatically? |
| 18:47:26 | Zagor | no the standby machine needs to do that as part of the fail-over |
| 18:47:36 | Zagor | i don't remember exactly how it's done |
| 18:47:38 | elinenbe | Zagor: so the heartbeat program does this to the router, and the router just keeps on chugging? |
| 18:47:57 | elinenbe | ...the heartbeat program on the NEW server |
| 18:47:59 | Zagor | yes |
| 18:48:08 | _2deep4u_ | can you create this at home ? |
| 18:48:21 | Zagor | well not actually the heartbeat program, but the new server does it |
| 18:48:28 | Zagor | _2deep4u_: sure you can |
| 18:49:24 | Zagor | the heartbeat program just checks the heartbeat and screams "HE'S DEAD" if it's missing :-) |
| 18:49:34 | _2deep4u_ | heartbeat program is called? |
| 18:51:16 | Zagor | it's called HeartBeat. http://linux-ha.org/download/GettingStarted.html |
| 18:52:09 | Zagor | dinner time |
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| 19:00:38 | quelsaruk | dinner's time? |
| 19:00:57 | quelsaruk | ouch... how will i survive in sweden? |
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| 19:15:31 | elinenbe | quelsaruk: I think you are nice. |
| 19:15:36 | elinenbe | quelsaruk: like gravy |
| 19:15:47 | quelsaruk | gravy? |
| 19:16:59 | quelsaruk | i don't understand |
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| 19:34:36 | | Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@217.215.170.33) |
| 19:34:47 | elinenbe | Zagor: finally you are back! |
| 19:34:55 | elinenbe | Zagor: I have been missing you! |
| 19:34:59 | Zagor | :-) |
| 19:35:20 | elinenbe | Zagor: how is the gameboy emulator for rockbox coming? |
| 19:35:48 | quelsaruk | gameboy?? |
| 19:35:52 | MrSnazz | hehe |
| 19:36:08 | quelsaruk | why not gameboyu advance ? ;) |
| 19:36:22 | MrSnazz | are there plans to support runtime-loadable modules? |
| 19:36:22 | elinenbe | Zagor: I am having problems running Wario 4. I will talk to you about it in private IM :) |
| 19:36:27 | Zagor | elinenbe: i though you would fix grayscales first? :-) |
| 19:38:15 | elinenbe | Zagor: I can get 8 grayscales with 2 more framebuffers, but when I try to higher than that, there is quite some flicker |
| 19:38:32 | Zagor | seriously? |
| 19:38:48 | elinenbe | Zagor: also, it slows down to about 30 fps when I am playing a 320kbps mp3s and it looks horrendous. |
| 19:38:57 | Zagor | :) |
| 19:39:14 | MrSnazz | ...so as to be able to have more games, without running out of codespace... |
| 19:39:32 | Zagor | ...we need a plugin system |
| 19:39:32 | elinenbe | Zagor: I have been messing around with grayscale quite a bit, and I will have something nice to show in a little. |
| 19:39:41 | Zagor | elinenbe: cool |
| 19:39:49 | elinenbe | Zagor: however, I have not been running mp3s at the same time. |
| 19:40:14 | Zagor | elinenbe: ok |
| 19:40:23 | Zagor | it will still be interesting |
| 19:43:27 | quelsaruk | really interesting |
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| 20:22:01 | quelsaruk | hi hardeep |
| 20:22:13 | hardeep | heya |
| 20:22:51 | quelsaruk | you where the one who made trickle charge ? |
| 20:23:17 | hardeep | no, that was uwe |
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| 20:26:10 | quelsaruk | ahh |
| 20:26:42 | quelsaruk | i have quite bad memory |
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| 20:35:49 | Holo12 | Hi guys... anyone have the problem of directories being named wrong? I saw the irc logs touching on this subject, but no resolution.. My directory named E-M now is the name of a song instead.. |
| 20:36:09 | Holo12 | do i just have to deal with this until the next version? |
| 20:36:18 | Holo12 | or is there something I can do? |
| 20:38:01 | quelsaruk | umm |
| 20:38:03 | quelsaruk | don't know |
| 20:38:19 | Holo12 | does anyone else have this problem? |
| 20:39:16 | hardeep | Holo12: have you tried a daily build? I can't say I'm aware of any such problem |
| 20:39:39 | hardeep | You may also want to report it as a bug (see link on web page) |
| 20:40:02 | Holo12 | hmm... i'll try... basically, it gives the name of the last file in that directory |
| 20:42:55 | Holo12 | nope.. latest build still giving me that error |
| 20:57:27 | elinenbe | hardeep: so how is recursive playing going? :) |
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| 21:01:04 | yold | hi ! |
| 21:02:36 | quelsaruk | hi yold |
| 21:03:20 | yold | my archos is dead :( |
| 21:04:11 | quelsaruk | dead? |
| 21:04:14 | quelsaruk | why? how? |
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| 21:04:40 | yold | yesterday it was running fine |
| 21:05:25 | yold | and this morning the DD is up but nothing at screen |
| 21:05:41 | yold | i can't access ti the archos with usb |
| 21:05:58 | quelsaruk | DD? what's that? |
| 21:06:08 | quelsaruk | display? |
| 21:06:15 | yold | dirsk drive |
| 21:06:18 | yold | disk drive |
| 21:06:32 | quelsaruk | ok |
| 21:06:33 | quelsaruk | HD |
| 21:06:36 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 21:06:39 | yold | when i power on my archosm the disk is initilizing but notjing at screen |
| 21:06:54 | yold | sorry for my poor english ;) |
| 21:06:56 | quelsaruk | sometimes i get the same problem |
| 21:07:07 | quelsaruk | i just turn it off |
| 21:07:10 | quelsaruk | wait 5 minutes |
| 21:07:15 | quelsaruk | and turn it on again |
| 21:07:40 | yold | i have tried all the day to power on the archos but it wasn't a success :( |
| 21:08:53 | quelsaruk | are you sure you have batteries? |
| 21:09:09 | yold | yes of course |
| 21:09:30 | quelsaruk | try to connect it to the power supply and turn it on |
| 21:10:04 | quelsaruk | i have no idea of what happens to your jukebox.. really extrange |
| 21:10:09 | yold | nothing on the screen when i do that |
| 21:10:27 | quelsaruk | Zagor: we need your help |
| 21:10:32 | yold | normally i have to see "battery charging..." |
| 21:10:39 | quelsaruk | yes... |
| 21:10:47 | quelsaruk | you should see something |
| 21:10:56 | yold | nothing :( |
| 21:28:06 | quelsaruk | bye |
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| 21:28:11 | quelsaruk | time to go home |
| 21:28:25 | yold | bye |
| 21:28:35 | quelsaruk | yold, sorry for not helping you |
| 21:28:35 | quelsaruk | :( |
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| 21:29:36 | yold | it doesn't matter, thank you : |
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| 21:32:18 | [-UK-]BadAiming | wow |
| 21:32:22 | [-UK-]BadAiming | i am back |
| 21:34:31 | | Nick hardeep is now known as hardeep|away (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) |
| 21:37:50 | elinenbe | bye ... |
| 21:37:52 | elinenbe | :) |
| 21:37:54 | elinenbe | have fun |
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| 21:38:06 | Zagor | yold: sounds like a hardware problem |
| 21:39:30 | yold | Zagor: i think so |
| 21:39:39 | yold | i have dissecting my archos |
| 21:39:56 | yold | and trying trying to lcoate the pb |
| 21:40:02 | Zagor | does the backlight turn on? |
| 21:40:30 | yold | sometimes |
| 21:42:26 | yold | :( |
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| 21:42:40 | Zagor | whoa |
| 21:42:47 | Zagor | definitely hardware problem |
| 21:43:32 | yold | yes but my archos is 1 year and 2 month years old |
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| 21:44:04 | strwdle | could anyone give me some advice? |
| 21:45:48 | Zagor | maybe |
| 21:46:03 | | Nick [-UK-]BadAiming is now known as chris1 (~flanz@pD9E7C378.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:46:15 | chris1 | my old nick |
| 21:46:21 | strwdle | do you know much about installing? |
| 21:46:42 | chris1 | what you like to install ? |
| 21:46:47 | strwdle | because I lost the software that came with the jukebox (don't ask how) and the drivers etc from the archos site don't work |
| 21:47:00 | chris1 | OS Windows ? |
| 21:47:13 | strwdle | 2k |
| 21:47:22 | chris1 | I have this driver cd in front of my |
| 21:47:31 | strwdle | it recognises that the jukbox is there |
| 21:47:42 | strwdle | but it doesn't appear as my g:\ drive |
| 21:48:19 | chris1 | have you a friend to check you rockbox |
| 21:48:37 | strwdle | friend? |
| 21:48:45 | strwdle | what do you mean check it? |
| 21:48:48 | chris1 | the driver from the archos site still works fine |
| 21:49:16 | strwdle | well there are two zip files, which is which? |
| 21:49:24 | strwdle | it's a 60000 |
| 21:49:28 | chris1 | WOW |
| 21:49:35 | chris1 | i have the Recorder 20G |
| 21:49:57 | chris1 | the 6000 is very old |
| 21:50:15 | strwdle | I know...lol |
| 21:50:35 | strwdle | anyway, I need to access the HDD because I have the old 'part.pls chck HD' error |
| 21:50:37 | hmm | whats called the root directory on the installation page plz ? |
| 21:50:47 | chris1 | The Archos Windows driver a OEM from 3party |
| 21:50:47 | strwdle | and using atapwd doesn't work |
| 21:50:49 | | Nick hmm is now known as newbee (~uhu@APlessis-Bouchard-107-1-4-190.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:51:15 | chris1 | the driver is from the usb bride chip maker |
| 21:51:43 | strwdle | on the archos site there is a driver zip file and a pre-installer |
| 21:51:48 | strwdle | what does what/ |
| 21:52:37 | Zagor | newbee: it's the top dir. i.e. g:\ if g: is your archos disk |
| 21:53:11 | strwdle | yeah it doesn't come up, I've tried them |
| 21:53:17 | strwdle | F:\ is my dvd rom drive |
| 21:53:23 | strwdle | so g:\ would be the dir |
| 21:53:32 | chris1 | RESTART |
| 21:54:35 | strwdle | oh I have, many times! |
| 21:55:02 | strwdle | I was thinking, could it not be recognising the hd because of the partion error? |
| 21:55:08 | strwdle | I mean the hd works on my laptop |
| 21:56:04 | chris1 | please go to the archos.com website and use the Support |
| 21:56:19 | strwdle | yeah I think I will |
| 21:56:28 | chris1 | i thing that rockbox is the bad place for the W2K querys |
| 21:56:50 | strwdle | why? |
| 21:57:05 | chris1 | 80 % here use Linux |
| 21:57:22 | strwdle | aaah |
| 21:57:35 | chris1 | the real devloper :) |
| 21:57:39 | strwdle | I should have guessed |
| 21:57:53 | strwdle | well I'm not a developer, I'm a musician |
| 21:57:55 | strwdle | lol |
| 21:58:16 | chris1 | lol to |
| 21:58:24 | newbee | where can i change language on the recorder plz ? |
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| 21:58:41 | chris1 | i have to buy a external MIC for the Recorder |
| 21:58:53 | chris1 | RFM |
| 21:59:00 | Zagor | newbee: browse into the .rockbox dir and press PLAY on the language of your choice |
| 21:59:12 | Zagor | chris1: the archos mic is actually pretty good. |
| 21:59:36 | kargatron | does PAUSE take up any more power than STOPped? i.e. will charging take slightly longer while PAUSEd? (an academic question, really) |
| 21:59:44 | chris1 | Yes, but i have all the time the HD Drive on my records |
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| 22:00:00 | Zagor | kargatron: no, it's the same |
| 22:00:13 | Zagor | chris1: ? |
| 22:00:29 | chris1 | the noice from the hard disk |
| 22:00:48 | chris1 | you know this fakt |
| 22:00:57 | Zagor | yes, but I mean the external microphone: http://www.archos.com/lang=en/products/prw_100878.html |
| 22:01:17 | Zagor | no hd sound with that |
| 22:01:48 | chris1 | oh nice i test ist let go online shoping *smile* |
| 22:01:50 | Naked | oo, that looks nice |
| 22:02:17 | | Part yold ("Client Exiting") |
| 22:02:24 | Naked | Zagor: did you have time to test the background noise on a stereo set yet? |
| 22:02:24 | PsycoXul | thats weird, i accidently only copied the en/products/prw_100878.html part and middle-click'd it in phoenix and it took me to M$ media player download page |
| 22:02:38 | Zagor | Naked: ah, no. i'll test right away. |
| 22:03:19 | newbee | zagor its normal that i cant see the bar where it was written "back" or the hour befor ? |
| 22:04:03 | Zagor | newbee: i don't follow you. which bar? where? |
| 22:04:24 | newbee | with the 3 button...f1 f2 f3 on the notice |
| 22:05:36 | chris1 | zagor i love you way to build the update for the rockbox webpage. C precompiler rocks for static templates |
| 22:06:43 | Zagor | chris1: yeah, i like it |
| 22:07:04 | Zagor | newbee: ah, yes that's normal. rockbox doesn't have that bar |
| 22:07:28 | newbee | ok and i havnt found how change language on the player .. |
| 22:07:35 | | Nick hardeep|away is now known as hardeep (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) |
| 22:07:47 | Zagor | newbee: please read the manual. it actually explains all these things. |
| 22:08:41 | newbee | u say me .rockbox but .. |
| 22:08:41 | Zagor | Naked: I have the noise too, if I crank my amp all the way up and put my ear to the loudspeakers |
| 22:09:29 | chris1 | i work on a stock markt company , that use for the same Results java |
| 22:10:12 | Zagor | newbee: go into menu->general->file view->show files and select "all" to see the .rockbox directory |
| 22:10:43 | newbee | ok |
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| 22:14:02 | chris1 | write me flanz@gmx.net |
| 22:14:18 | | Quit chris1 () |
| 22:17:37 | newbee | zagor for all the new files i put them on the .rockbox too ? for new games new fonts etc |
| 22:19:49 | Zagor | mostly yes |
| 22:19:59 | newbee | ok i try |
| 22:21:39 | newbee | and the .ch8 games ? |
| 22:21:52 | Zagor | they are not supported yet |
| 22:22:16 | newbee | oh ... |
| 22:23:09 | newbee | ah finally i can see my divx list ... |
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| 22:23:21 | newbee | pretty good thing that ur firmwar |
| 22:24:50 | Zagor | yeah, we like to think so :-) |
| 22:25:22 | newbee | but i dont understand the princip of the oscilloscop.. |
| 22:25:40 | Naked | Zagor: okay - goodie - then we know it happens from the display drawing - luckily that can easily be fixed with a screensaver :) |
| 22:25:52 | Zagor | yes |
| 22:26:04 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:26:09 | Zagor | unfortunately, I also heard a whine from the disk. that's harder to fix. |
| 22:26:24 | Zagor | but that whine is also unhearable in my headphones |
| 22:27:38 | Naked | Zagor: harddisk? when it was spinning up or reading or when? |
| 22:27:48 | Zagor | newbee: the oscilloscope is only for recorders |
| 22:27:55 | Zagor | Naked: spinup |
| 22:27:59 | newbee | i have one |
| 22:28:05 | Zagor | a whine increasing in pitch |
| 22:28:29 | Zagor | newbee: oh, ok. sorry I though you had player. the oscilloscope is just a demo, for fun. |
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| 22:28:46 | newbee | ok =) |
| 22:29:23 | Naked | Zagor: hmm, ok |
| 22:31:39 | newbee | oh...my playlist loaded so fast its so gooood |
| 22:31:51 | Zagor | hehe |
| 22:32:38 | newbee | and i can reduce the volume to the mute... |
| 22:32:49 | newbee | really good thx for this firmwar |
| 22:32:50 | kargatron | well, your playlist loaded REASONABLY. :) so it no longer sucks ass |
| 22:33:20 | kargatron | reserve your enthusiasm for resume :) |
| 22:33:29 | newbee | hehe |
| 22:35:36 | newbee | i cant browse my file ? i mean that befor i can see other file on the directory when i was playing song |
| 22:37:17 | Zagor | press ON |
| 22:37:24 | Zagor | (and read the manual) |
| 22:38:17 | newbee | hey im here to dont read this fuckin manual its so boring i prefere ask like an idiot its more entertaining ... |
| 22:38:45 | * | MrSnazz raises an eyebrow |
| 22:39:00 | Zagor | :-) |
| 22:39:06 | PsycoXul | somebody should invent an entertaining way to present a manual |
| 22:39:11 | PsycoXul | so that people'd be inclined to actualy read it |
| 22:39:23 | Zagor | some singing, dancing and naked skin |
| 22:39:24 | newbee | true.. |
| 22:39:34 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 22:39:38 | Naked | oo, naked! |
| 22:39:46 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 22:40:02 | MrSnazz | Perhaps, host it on Anglefire and have lots of rotating animated GIFs, MIDI music, and horribly colored backgrounds. Then it'd be kewl! :) |
| 22:40:12 | newbee | ok thx for information and firmware sorry to disturb you guys bye =) |
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| 22:40:39 | PsycoXul | MrSnazz: nah, that'd just be annoying |
| 22:40:43 | PsycoXul | MrSnazz: then nobody'd read it |
| 22:41:24 | PsycoXul | i know |
| 22:41:33 | PsycoXul | embed the manual into a game within rockbox |
| 22:41:34 | Zagor | has anybody seen any analysis of this realizer plugin people keep yapping about? it has the smell of hoax all over it |
| 22:41:48 | Naked | realizer plugin? |
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| 22:42:00 | Zagor | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439121&aid=665327&group_id=44306 |
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| 22:43:10 | Zagor | "restoring the frequencies lost by the MP3 compression" |
| 22:43:12 | Zagor | yeah, right |
| 22:43:13 | Naked | oh puuh |
| 22:43:33 | Zagor | i just want a good debunking url to reject it with |
| 22:43:42 | PsycoXul | hoax or not, i doubt the archos could support it |
| 22:44:08 | MrSnazz | you mean, you can't delete data from a file, and then bring the data back later? :O |
| 22:44:12 | Zagor | oh, it can't. i just want to stamp out this kind of snake-oil nonsense |
| 22:44:53 | PsycoXul | it's probably just some gimicky post-processing that doesn't actualy do anything but makes it sound different so everybody thinks it's "higher quality" |
| 22:45:00 | MrSnazz | lol |
| 22:45:27 | MrSnazz | thankfully I can't hear what others claim to hear in MP3 tracks. My roommate swears that he can hear the distortion, even at 192. |
| 22:45:40 | Zagor | probably the WMA way: increase sound level 2dB |
| 22:45:43 | PsycoXul | MrSnazz: i can in some stuff |
| 22:45:55 | PsycoXul | MrSnazz: it depends on the content |
| 22:45:58 | Naked | Realizer's three processing stages make the bass richer and deeper, add sparkle and vibrance to the high end and create a wider, more three dimensional stereo impression. |
| 22:46:10 | Naked | bwaha |
| 22:46:21 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:46:22 | MrSnazz | PsycoXul: yeah, but not in all music :) |
| 22:46:39 | PsycoXul | MrSnazz: no, some kinds of music sound fine at 128 heh |
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| 22:47:06 | PsycoXul | MrSnazz: i've noticed even at 160 and 192 i can hear some artifacts in some of bjork's stuff |
| 22:47:20 | MrSnazz | weird |
| 22:47:33 | MrSnazz | my eardrums have gone out and grown back a few times, perhaps I'm deaf to some things |
| 22:47:46 | PsycoXul | it's not all that noticable |
| 22:48:08 | PsycoXul | but like certain ways she says things with s sounds |
| 22:48:30 | PsycoXul | mp3 seems to not to handle that type of sound too well |
| 22:48:59 | Zagor | hence vbr |
| 22:49:29 | PsycoXul | yeah i wish i had nice lame −−alt-preset standard rips of all the bjork i have heh |
| 22:49:33 | MrSnazz | the times I notice distortion the most are on tracks recorded from poor sources. Like b-side tape casettes. Pretty bad on some of that. Garbage in, garbage out I suppose |
| 22:53:37 | Naked | well, according to listening tests with a bunch of audiophiles, with 256kbit, the CD couldn't separated anymore - so I'm not sure what Realizer could add to that - make it sound 'better' than cd by faking stuff? |
| 22:54:39 | MrSnazz | sounds like the same mumbo jumbo that my graphic equalizer does, for "richer sound". I don't think they ought to be claiming that it restores lost data. |
| 22:55:13 | Zagor | it adds bass and treble. just like a loudness button. |
| 22:55:16 | Naked | mp3 loses data that's unaudible - what good will restoring it do? ;) |
| 22:55:31 | Naked | or tries to lose, ofcourse and yadda yadda |
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| 22:58:08 | breaker | Zagor? |
| 22:58:12 | breaker | I've this problem with turning off the backlight before power_off(). Maybe you can help me? |
| 22:58:22 | Zagor | breaker: what is the problem? |
| 22:58:33 | breaker | I have the alarm option in the menu. |
| 22:58:43 | breaker | It sets the alarm, the backlight_off(),.. |
| 22:58:49 | breaker | then power_off(). |
| 22:59:06 | breaker | But somehow the backlight goes off very short and sometimes goes on again. |
| 22:59:26 | Zagor | hmm |
| 22:59:27 | breaker | Does another thread do this? |
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| 23:00:30 | breaker | I saw in button.c a backlight_on(), but this should only be called when one presses a key. And I make a pause before setting backlight_off(). |
| 23:01:27 | breaker | I think you can see how it behaves when you add a backlight_off() in some menu function. |
| 23:02:21 | breaker | I have also some lcd_puts and lcd_update in the shutdown-procedure. |
| 23:03:38 | breaker | Look at http://www.uwe-freese.de/alarm_menu.c, there's the code. |
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| 23:11:29 | Zagor | i think no other thread does this |
| 23:11:37 | BoD[] | hellllllllllllo |
| 23:11:54 | Zagor | unfortunately, i'm not too at home with the rtc and backlight. linus has done all that work. |
| 23:12:01 | Zagor | hi bod :-) |
| 23:12:20 | BoD[] | rockbox still rocksszz0zrrz |
| 23:12:28 | Zagor | that's good to hear |
| 23:13:09 | BoD[] | :)) |
| 23:16:57 | breaker | Zagor: linus seems not to be active the last days. Maybe on holiday or something. |
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| 23:18:17 | Zagor | yes, he is still away. he'll be back this weekend |
| 23:19:08 | breaker | Ah, ok. I'll try to find the problem myself. I hope i've found it then. |
| 23:20:39 | breaker | Do you know where I can find the code which shuts off the backlight after x sec.? |
| 23:21:01 | Zagor | umm, i'll look |
| 23:21:38 | breaker | Maybe it switches it on every second or so in a loop if it should be on? |
| 23:22:43 | Zagor | it's in backlight_tick(), called from button_tick() |
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| 23:23:06 | Zagor | and button_tick() is a separate thread |
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| 23:24:14 | EGM92 | Hey everyone |
| 23:24:25 | BoD[] | hi |
| 23:25:07 | EGM92 | hey i got a question about my archos jukebox 6000 and ROCKBOX |
| 23:25:33 | EGM92 | It won't allow me to use my playlists? or sometimes it won't play all of the songs in my list why is that? |
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| 23:28:22 | BoD[] | how did you make the playlists |
| 23:30:01 | EGM92 | the one the play some of the songs i made with music match the others are with winamp |
| 23:30:39 | kargatron | musicmatch includes absolute paths and are problematic |
| 23:31:07 | kargatron | winamp should be fine if you saved them in a relative location |
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| 23:31:20 | breaker | Zagor: Thanks. I'll try to find the problem. Bye. |
| 23:31:24 | kargatron | simplest answer to to look with text editor - see if the paths are bad or not |
| 23:31:32 | BoD[] | the playlists that do not play all the songs: are they always the same songs that do not play? |
| 23:31:32 | Zagor | breaker: ok. bye. |
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| 23:32:09 | EGM92 | no, it's always random song that won't pla from te lists |
| 23:32:25 | BoD[] | so sometimes it plays, and somtimes not ?? |
| 23:37:03 | hardeep | the absolute pathname problem has been fixed in the latest daily build... try it out and see if that fixes your problem |
| 23:37:14 | EGM92 | oh ok |
| 23:37:19 | EGM92 | ummm, hold on |
| 23:37:48 | EGM92 | how do I install CVS ? |
| 23:38:04 | hardeep | you don't need cvs, just go to the daily build section from the main page |
| 23:38:06 | kargatron | just grab latest daily build.ajz file |
| 23:38:15 | kargatron | a single file dl is all |
| 23:38:19 | hardeep | but, if you want cvs, i would recommend downloading cygwin (assuming you're using a win32 machine) |
| 23:38:40 | kargatron | .mod file, for the 6000? |
| 23:39:15 | EGM92 | no :( |
| 23:40:02 | EGM92 | umm is this the lastest build? rockbox-daily-20030109.tar |
| 23:40:21 | hardeep | that's the latest source code |
| 23:40:43 | hardeep | er, the source code for the latest daily build |
| 23:41:06 | hardeep | get archos20030109.mod |
| 23:41:21 | EGM92 | ..I'm compltely lost lol ,I'm a newb to JB stuff, I'm much more used to my old Lyra |
| 23:41:29 | EGM92 | k |
| 23:48:27 | EGM92 | alright it fixed it thanks Hardeep |
| 23:48:41 | BoD[] | :) |
| 23:49:30 | EGM92 | Man I wish I had a multimedia unit so I COULD play all of my movies lol |
| 23:49:47 | EGM92 | or view all of my pictures, how much do they retail for anyone know |
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| 23:50:37 | kargatron | just because the daily build fixed it doesn't mean we believe that random songs were being skipped... :-) was shuffle on? |
| 23:50:39 | BoD[] | dont know :) www.archos.com |
| 23:51:07 | EGM92 | no they were not on shuffle |
| 23:51:19 | EGM92 | I have it on repeat |
| 23:51:27 | Zagor | random bugs are generally quite rare |
| 23:51:48 | EGM92 | Ic |
| 23:52:05 | Naked | has there been any fixes to buffering or hd read error handling recently in rockbox btw? not that they've been bad in the past, but there are still some issues |
| 23:52:43 | EGM92 | is it possible to cahnge the buff size? from 1.79mb to something much higher? |
| 23:53:00 | Naked | EGM92: there is no free memory |
| 23:53:02 | kargatron | with great difficulty and chancy hardware mods |
| 23:53:02 | Zagor | EGM92: there is only 2 MB ram |
| 23:53:10 | EGM92 | oh |
| 23:53:27 | EGM92 | is it a special kind of ram? |
| 23:53:36 | Zagor | no, normal EDO ram |
| 23:55:54 | EGM92 | Alright |
| 23:56:48 | Naked | I think I'll have to compose a longish mail on rockbox stuff when I get the time |
| 23:57:52 | Zagor | Naked: any specific topic? |
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