00:00:10 | Hadaka | renice +10 `pidof analog` |
00:01:28 | matsl | happy hacking with nice! cu |
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00:04:21 | ricII | hardeep: won't be able to work on it this week, but you can have a peek my-laptop.xs4all.nl/playlist.c |
00:05:41 | elinenbe | thanks! |
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00:21:13 | hardeep | ricII: did you see my comments earlier? |
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02:39:44 | matchmoschus | hello. one question. |
02:40:19 | matchmoschus | haw to install the firmware after downloading the package (rockbox-1.4) |
02:40:43 | matchmoschus | someone there? |
02:43:14 | hardeep | matchmoschus: the rockbox1.4 package comes as a zip file iirc |
02:43:28 | hardeep | marchmoschus: just unzip into the root folder of your device |
02:43:45 | ricII | hardeep: yes did see y'r comments (can't sleep) |
02:43:56 | hardeep | ricII: heh, yeah, i saw your changes |
02:44:17 | ricII | no resume or shuffle code yet but? |
02:44:21 | hardeep | ricII: couple things: it looks like you let the file grow forever |
02:44:51 | ricII | it maxes on currently 10000*(maxpath+5) |
02:45:08 | matchmoschus | thanx hardeep |
02:45:09 | ricII | they are no more indices .. |
02:45:28 | hardeep | right, but that's still a fairly large file |
02:45:29 | matchmoschus | i have done it but nothing happens |
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02:45:44 | hardeep | marchmoschus: what do you mean? did you restart your device? |
02:45:51 | matchmoschus | yep |
02:45:57 | ricII | yes, but only when user realy needed that much space.. |
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02:46:03 | hardeep | ricII: if a user only has 1mb left... i still think they should be able to insert |
02:46:17 | ricII | yes they are.. |
02:46:18 | matchmoschus | now i have a folder called "rockbox" |
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02:46:28 | hardeep | ricII: (from personal experience) i filled my 6gb player really quickly |
02:46:34 | matchmoschus | is this ok? |
02:46:40 | hardeep | matchmoschus: hmmmm, that doesn't sound right |
02:46:54 | matchmoschus | which file is needed? |
02:47:00 | hardeep | matchmoschus: you have should have a folder called ".rockbox" on the root folder of your device |
02:47:18 | hardeep | and there should be a archos.mod file sitting on the root |
02:47:28 | matchmoschus | rockbox or rockbox-1.4 |
02:47:37 | matchmoschus | arschos.mod is there |
02:47:37 | ricII | only the number of modifications to the playlist is limited by the hd space availble.. |
02:48:11 | matchmoschus | hardeep:should i rename it |
02:48:31 | hardeep | ricII: not quite... since you don't loop back |
02:48:32 | ricII | eg. with a 100% full hd you can't dirplay.. |
02:48:53 | hardeep | matchmoschus: one sec, i need to look at the zip file |
02:48:56 | Jet8810 | hey guys |
02:48:59 | matchmoschus | thanx |
02:49:22 | Jet8810 | did anybody else have a problem wehre in one of the latest builds you could not display ANY id3 info |
02:49:29 | Jet8810 | so when playing a song screen basically blank |
02:49:46 | hardeep | matchmoschus: do you have a recorder or player? |
02:49:51 | ricII | hardeeo: when it's started from scrath it re-uses the space in the file.. |
02:49:51 | matchmoschus | player |
02:50:02 | matchmoschus | hardeep:player |
02:50:21 | hardeep | matchmoschus: there are two versions for v1.4... did you download the correct version for your player? |
02:51:06 | ricII | playlist.patchfile_endpos.. |
02:51:10 | matchmoschus | hardeep: dont know |
02:51:19 | matchmoschus | download it from here |
02:51:20 | hardeep | matchmoschus: what player do you have? |
02:51:22 | matchmoschus | http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/ |
02:51:33 | matchmoschus | studio 20 |
02:51:46 | hardeep | ricII: right.... however, the examples i'm thinking of are queuing and deletion |
02:51:53 | hardeep | ricII: if I delete a file, i'd like to insert a new file |
02:52:02 | hardeep | ricII: once a queued song is done, i'd like to queue a new file |
02:52:26 | hardeep | ricII: of course, i could be missing something in the code... didn't look at it super closely |
02:52:35 | Jet8810 | just wondering, do all features enter studio and recorder models at same time in daily builds? |
02:52:37 | ricII | all posible, but agreed the patchfile could become large |
02:52:41 | Jet8810 | why different versions anyway? |
02:52:56 | hardeep | Jet8810: different lcd versions... they were combined post 1.4 |
02:53:05 | ricII | delete isn't implemented yet.. |
02:53:09 | hardeep | matchmoschus: do you know what version of ROM firmware you have |
02:53:17 | hardeep | ricII: nod, just using it as an example |
02:53:34 | hardeep | ricII: one other thing... they way you shift the playlist indices is going to make resume difficult |
02:53:41 | matchmoschus | hardeep: thanx very much. it was my mistake. i downloaded the sourcecode. gonna try it again |
02:53:50 | hardeep | ricII: unless you're thinking of saving the entire index array |
02:54:06 | Jet8810 | hmm |
02:54:07 | ricII | not when I replay all modification on the suffle list.. |
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02:54:25 | jony | hi |
02:54:31 | Jet8810 | is deep discharge better for unit? |
02:54:31 | hardeep | matchmoschus: okay, cool... |
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02:54:42 | jony | this is kind of offtopic but |
02:54:44 | ricII | Jet8810 seldom.. |
02:55:18 | hardeep | ricII: nm, didn't notice that you save the index in the file |
02:55:21 | Jet8810 | alright |
02:55:22 | ricII | it's only nessery when y'r batteries are charged often from halffull |
02:55:34 | ricII | :) |
02:55:38 | Jet8810 | I want to buy that $40 archos kit and then 4 2100 mah batts :) |
02:55:54 | Jet8810 | 600 mah boost in each battery should give me HUGE battery life gains! |
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02:56:11 | jony | when i single click my mouse seems to double click (rh8.0 gnome usb wheel mouse) |
02:56:39 | hardeep | jony: that's usually configurable via the gnome configuration applet |
02:57:35 | ricII | but also playlist_next() doesn't seems to be the place to 'delete' a queued song from the indices, it would also be nice to display an icon when we are playing a queued song.. |
02:58:02 | hardeep | ricII: why isn't playlist_next the right place? |
02:58:39 | Jet8810 | heh |
02:58:41 | ricII | is isn't it called by mpeg-filler-thread to find the next song to buffer ? |
02:58:42 | hardeep | ricII: i agree on the icon... we can also display something in the browser to identify a queued track (maybe a number indicating queue position like winamp does) |
02:58:43 | Jet8810 | seems kind of slobby |
02:58:51 | hardeep | ricII: no, that's playlist_peek() |
02:59:06 | Jet8810 | do you ever plan to integrate shuffle into playlists? |
02:59:08 | hardeep | ricII: playlist_next() is called by the mpeg thread once it finishes playing a track |
02:59:11 | Jet8810 | if you do, playlist next wont work |
02:59:12 | ricII | ok I trust you |
02:59:38 | hardeep | ricII: heh :) |
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02:59:54 | ricII | don't known winamp (no $m stuff around..) |
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03:00:26 | hardeep | ricII: winamp lets you queue songs and displays a number next to each queued track identifying its queue position |
03:00:36 | hardeep | ricII: i kinda like that.... for browsing that is |
03:01:07 | Jet8810 | yea |
03:01:16 | hardeep | Jet8810: shuffle into playlists? we already do that |
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03:02:06 | Jet8810 | no, into queue lists |
03:02:10 | Jet8810 | my mistake :) |
03:02:20 | Jet8810 | do you plan to integrate shuffle into queue lists |
03:02:20 | ricII | I tested the code on the real thing ... aleast it doesn't crash it, but peek() is a verry wrong place to do things... |
03:02:20 | Jet8810 | ? |
03:02:35 | hardeep | Jet8810: oh, not queued shuffle, but ricII is adding shuffled insertion |
03:02:55 | hardeep | ricII: peek should only be used to retrieve the requested trackname |
03:03:05 | Jet8810 | what is the difference? |
03:03:14 | ricII | I found out the hardway :) |
03:03:16 | hardeep | Jet8810: queued tracks are removed once they're finished |
03:03:29 | hardeep | Jet8810: sort of an auto-delete |
03:03:50 | hardeep | Jet8810: insertions are remembered, for playlist editing, repeat, etc. |
03:03:59 | ricII | I'm making dynamic playlist which could be saved (optionaly) |
03:04:06 | Jet8810 | very good |
03:04:16 | Jet8810 | hmm...what is a cheap onlien store to buy AA batts? |
03:07:39 | ricII | hardeep: I just don't truncate the file to minimize fragmentation.. |
03:07:58 | hardeep | ricII: yeah, makes sense |
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03:09:35 | ricII | if the user realy gonna make 1000k modification, well he asked for it... |
03:10:06 | hardeep | ricII: over the span of a playlist it's very possible... esp. with queuing |
03:10:55 | ricII | well there is a max.. maxint... |
03:11:10 | ricII | and I check for it.. |
03:12:52 | ricII | if (playlist.patchfile_endpos+i>0x7fffffff) { close(fd); return -1;}/* no room in patchfile */ |
03:13:36 | ricII | somehow the version I put on the web was a little outdated.. |
03:13:53 | hardeep | ricII: yeah, that check is there |
03:15:00 | ricII | could be easy limited to a more senseble value... |
03:15:17 | hardeep | ricII: the file size is so large that it probably won't metter... but i like the idea of reusing portions of the buffer once a queued song is finished or an insertion is removed |
03:15:34 | hardeep | ricII: er reusing once we're out of space |
03:16:13 | ricII | that would require a rewrite of the patchfile (costly but do able) |
03:16:44 | hardeep | ricII: yeah... it's probably not worth it... 2.5M is an awfully large amount of text. :) |
03:18:29 | ricII | well I phave to get up in say 5h, glad I could talk to you :=) |
03:19:04 | hardeep | ricII: heh, g'night. the changes look good :) |
03:19:58 | ricII | thx, it not finished but you get the idea.. |
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08:59:08 | Bagder | morning |
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08:59:18 | hardeep | morning Bagder! |
08:59:25 | hardeep | that was an amusing bug report, hehe |
08:59:32 | Bagder | indeed :-) |
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09:00:29 | hardeep | Bagder: do you know of a way of getting cvs diff to also add newly created files in the diff? |
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09:01:13 | Bagder | aren't they included if you cvs add them first? |
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09:01:26 | Bagder | that's the only way, I think |
09:01:31 | hardeep | heya Zagor |
09:01:36 | Zagor | hey |
09:01:44 | hardeep | Bagder: yeah, that works... i was trying to avoid the add... i don't have a server setup |
09:01:54 | Bagder | or else you do them using plain diff -N |
09:02:08 | Bagder | as in normal diff without cvs ;-) |
09:02:21 | hardeep | Bagder: yeah, methinks that's what i'll do... thanks |
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09:24:08 | hardeep | Bagder: when you have a chance, could you try repeat one mode with a queued file... it works fine for me (re: yahoo post) |
09:25:05 | hardeep | or anyone else who has a spare sec. :) |
09:46:25 | Zagor | testing |
09:47:43 | Zagor | hardeep: i think maybe your status fix broke the graphic volume display. i only get numeric, whatever I set it to. |
09:48:10 | hardeep | Zagor: on the player? |
09:48:22 | Zagor | no, recorder. was your change on for player? |
09:48:40 | hardeep | Zagor: yeah |
09:48:55 | Zagor | oh, i have to find someone else to blame then ;) |
09:49:08 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 7 seconds at the last flood |
09:49:08 | * | Bagder volounteers to take the blame |
09:49:23 | Zagor | fix your bug, bagder |
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09:49:29 | hardeep | hmmm, my recorder is showing the graphic display for volume... latest daily |
09:49:44 | Zagor | strange |
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10:05:28 | hardeep | heya ricII |
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10:36:11 | blametaker | clues are rare these days |
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10:37:42 | hardeep | laugh |
10:39:07 | Bagder | I had a talk with Linus, and I think we might have an idea on how to reduce some of all the feature request duplicates |
10:39:36 | Zagor | Bagder: I'm listening |
10:39:38 | Bagder | let's publish the 10 or 12 most frequently requested not-possible feature requests |
10:39:45 | Bagder | possibly first on the FR page |
10:39:52 | Zagor | could work |
10:39:57 | Zagor | worth a try |
10:41:00 | Bagder | I made a quick list and came up with 11 contenders |
10:41:40 | hardeep | Have them blink in bright fluorescent orange |
10:41:49 | hardeep | people have to notice them then |
10:42:06 | Zagor | hehe |
10:42:11 | Bagder | nah, that'll blind them and then they can't read them ;-) |
10:42:20 | hardeep | laugh |
10:51:52 | ricII|work | hi hardeep, running around abit at work |
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11:04:40 | dwihno | I've been watching you, a la la la la long long li long long long! |
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11:15:12 | ricII|work | on popular request: my-laptop.xs4all.nl/rb.jpg (taped archos) |
11:15:57 | Zagor | you don't change batteries often, do you? ;) |
11:16:11 | ricII|work | :) no.. |
11:16:22 | dwihno | funky stuff :-) |
11:23:47 | ricII|work | afk for a while |
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11:47:01 | quelsaruk | hi |
11:49:06 | quelsaruk | Bagder: resume should only work if you turn off your jukebox while playing a song.... so if you stop playing, wait 1 minute and power off, when you turn on your jukebox, you sould go directly to the root dir. Or not? |
11:49:29 | Bagder | nope, it resumes aggressively these days |
11:49:35 | quelsaruk | yea |
11:49:38 | quelsaruk | i know |
11:49:39 | quelsaruk | :) |
11:50:52 | quelsaruk | just wanted to know if that was a bug :) |
11:51:18 | Bagder | people often accidentally first press stop and then shut off, and they still want to resume |
11:51:24 | Bagder | that's why it works like this |
11:52:11 | quelsaruk | how much must i wait until it doesn't resume? |
11:52:20 | Bagder | forever |
11:52:29 | quelsaruk | or may i say "ask" in resume config? |
11:52:41 | Bagder | that's your choice ;-) |
11:53:10 | quelsaruk | i loved the other way of working |
11:53:42 | Bagder | with bookmarks around, we might change the current behavior |
11:55:33 | quelsaruk | oki doki |
11:55:47 | Bagder | lunch! |
11:55:48 | quelsaruk | :) |
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11:55:52 | quelsaruk | lunch? |
11:56:06 | quelsaruk | i haven't had breakfast yet!!! |
11:56:11 | quelsaruk | just 12:00 |
11:56:31 | quelsaruk | ok, i have breakfast a bit late.. but have lunch at 12:00.... |
11:56:41 | quelsaruk | i will never live in sweden :) |
11:56:42 | quelsaruk | for sure |
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12:00:15 | matsl | Zagor: bidir scroll for player with menu checked in. |
12:01:11 | Zagor | matsl: nice |
12:04:51 | matsl | Zagor: What do you think about an allways-on option for the bidirscrolling? |
12:05:18 | matsl | ...for us bidir freaks. |
12:05:28 | Zagor | just set the limit to 1000% instead |
12:06:26 | matsl | two problem. it is just one byte and "always" is a better word |
12:08:03 | Zagor | yes, but I think very very few people really want always |
12:13:30 | matsl | Zagor: OK. We'll leave it for now anyway. |
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13:10:36 | dwihno | Zagor: If I was to upgrade my archos with a bigger disk, what would you recommend? |
13:10:56 | Zagor | i'm very happy with my toshiba MK4018 |
13:14:16 | dwihno | Where do I find such disks? |
13:14:20 | dwihno | And how big is it? |
13:16:17 | Zagor | it's 40gig |
13:16:38 | dwihno | Well, it's still a quite comfortable upgrade. :-) |
13:16:47 | dwihno | Can you ask your hw supplier to get me one? :) |
13:17:02 | Zagor | you wish :-) |
13:17:10 | dwihno | *wish* |
13:17:16 | dwihno | *wish very much* ;-) |
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13:19:24 | Zagor | get any drive, they are mostly the same all of them. |
13:19:36 | Zagor | just avoid the fancy 5400rpm and such |
13:48:44 | * | Bagder is about to release a new curl package |
13:48:57 | quelsaruk | æ? |
13:49:06 | Bagder | see curl.haxx.se |
13:49:29 | quelsaruk | oki |
13:50:48 | quelsaruk | interesting |
13:52:26 | Bagder | :-) |
13:53:10 | quelsaruk | sounds good |
13:53:12 | quelsaruk | but.. |
13:53:36 | Bagder | there's always a but |
13:53:44 | quelsaruk | do you have spare time after rockbox?? |
13:53:55 | Bagder | hehe |
13:54:08 | quelsaruk | that's my big but |
13:54:27 | Bagder | actually, its the other way around for me, I spend more time on curl than on rockbox |
13:56:15 | quelsaruk | well, i have no much spare time, so i can't spend it in rockbox or other similar project :) |
13:59:12 | Bagder | nights are loooong ;-) |
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14:00:49 | quelsaruk | ummm |
14:01:02 | quelsaruk | but i love sleeping |
14:01:03 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:07:42 | Bagder | sleeping is for old people ;-) |
14:08:16 | dwihno | HITACHI 40GB 2.5# 9.5MM IDE ULTRA ATA/100 |
14:08:19 | dwihno | Is that good or bad? |
14:08:25 | dwihno | 4200 RPM |
14:08:27 | dwihno | 2 meg cache |
14:08:40 | Zagor | looks good |
14:08:53 | quelsaruk | umm |
14:09:10 | quelsaruk | i think i have a hitachi.. and it works fine :) |
14:11:42 | dwihno | :-) |
14:11:58 | dwihno | I am also considering buying an external case for the left over disk |
14:12:02 | dwihno | will that rock? |
14:13:28 | quelsaruk | hee in spain that is quite expensive.. . but i thought that too. |
14:13:35 | quelsaruk | *here |
14:20:36 | dwihno | I read something about it on the list, and it seemed cool enough. It was able to power itself by the USB cable. |
14:21:10 | quelsaruk | yups |
14:21:51 | quelsaruk | it's a small sized portable hd :) |
14:22:45 | dwihno | I want one of those for the leftover 20 gig disk |
14:23:32 | dwihno | Was it expensive? |
14:25:14 | quelsaruk | in spain and for me, it was expensive |
14:25:20 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:27:40 | quelsaruk | lunch time |
14:27:43 | quelsaruk | cu! |
14:28:17 | quelsaruk | dwihno: if you find something for the HD, please tell me :) |
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14:28:47 | bobTHC | hi zll! |
14:29:12 | bobTHC | s/zll/all |
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14:30:52 | dwihno | quelsaruk: How about using the hardware specified in the mailing list? Ther emust be someone who can do an international shipment. |
14:31:55 | quelsaruk | dwihno: i can't remember that hardware :) i must re-read those mails :) |
14:33:03 | quelsaruk | bye |
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14:33:58 | matsl | Zagor: kjer and I are looking at the cancel-ok thing in the menues. We are not certain how to handle the sleeptimer. Suggestions are welcome. |
14:34:09 | Zagor | ? |
14:34:22 | Zagor | sleep(HZ/2) == 0.5s |
14:34:22 | matsl | ?? |
14:35:17 | Zagor | i don't understand what you mean with "handle the sleeptimer" |
14:36:22 | matsl | there is a menu for setting the sleeptimer. |
14:36:33 | Zagor | aha |
14:37:59 | Zagor | well, you need to do as in all other places: change a temp variable instead of the real value, and only set the real var/function on PLAY |
14:39:10 | matsl | Yes. we will implement cancel-ok just as for the other setting although the sleeptimer is a little bit different. I guess we will get feedback from the users ;-) |
14:41:01 | Zagor | let LEFT and PLAY both be OK on recorder |
14:41:15 | Zagor | only OFF as cancel |
14:42:51 | dwihno | AWW! I can't find the entry with the external USB2 case! :-( |
14:46:41 | dwihno | Zagor: Show me some MUTT skills ;-) |
14:46:48 | Zagor | huh? |
14:46:57 | matsl | Zagor: OK. kjer is doing it now. checkin soon. |
14:48:02 | dwihno | 1294:- (exkl) for a 40 gb disk |
14:48:06 | dwihno | quite a nice price indeed |
14:49:53 | Zagor | looks very good |
14:50:55 | dwihno | Then I only need to buy Linus a kebab to make him do the swap ;) |
14:51:12 | dwihno | kebab = ultimate bribe |
14:54:26 | dwihno | http://www.dustin.se/default.asp?ORIGIN=shopping/ProductDetail.asp?PID=5010044935 |
14:54:35 | dwihno | No need for AC adapters(?) |
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15:31:31 | Zagor | woo. karaoke request |
15:33:16 | dwihno | YAY! |
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15:42:09 | matsl | dwihno: you talk a lot about kebab. You should be careful! |
15:43:35 | dwihno | matsl: I can't help it! It's an addiction I have to cope with :-/ |
15:44:12 | matsl | dwihno: I once talked like you about "korngryn". My friends punished me! |
15:45:00 | dwihno | matsl: how? by buying you unhealthy amounts of beer? :) |
15:45:59 | matsl | dwihno: On my birthday the bought me 27Kg of it. (It was all they could get hold of.) |
15:46:30 | matsl | dwihno: It stopped me from talking (and eating) it. |
15:47:41 | dwihno | Hahahaha :-) |
15:47:47 | dwihno | EXCELLENT! |
15:47:52 | dwihno | Now that's humour! :-D |
15:47:55 | dwihno | Back at cha' |
15:48:25 | matsl | dwihno: Who know what you'll be getting ;-) |
15:50:50 | dwihno | Kebab? :D YEAH! |
15:51:09 | dwihno | Linus and I share the interest in kebab :-) |
15:52:16 | matsl | dwihno: 27Kg of kebab sound more fun than "korngryn" but I'm sure your friends will come up with something funnier. |
15:55:08 | dwihno | such as? kattle? :) |
15:55:45 | dwihno | 16500 is the final price tag on my new computer |
15:56:19 | Zagor | Jason Tye is a strange animal |
15:58:41 | dwihno | Jason Who? |
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16:02:32 | kargatron | agreed |
16:03:01 | kargatron | he seems to simultaneously read and ignore the faq, iirc his feature request comments. :) |
16:03:26 | Schnueff | jason-tracktheripper |
16:04:10 | Schnueff | auto-voice-transcriber :) |
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16:34:55 | langhaarrocker | I have a _corrupt_ mp3 file in the way that it's VBR with no header or a broken header -> rockbox displays it had 32 kBit. |
16:34:55 | langhaarrocker | While listening to this file it replayed parts of it while accessing the disk. Is this normal due to dynamically determined low water marks? |
16:40:24 | quelsaruk | umm |
16:40:29 | quelsaruk | i dunno |
16:40:30 | quelsaruk | :( |
16:41:34 | langhaarrocker | Is the bitrate considered when making up the low water mark? |
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16:42:41 | quelsaruk | zagor.... need wanted!!! |
16:43:25 | langhaarrocker | I don't want any needs :) |
16:44:11 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: yes it is |
16:44:37 | Zagor | if the bitrate is wrong, the buffer may wrap and thus replay some data |
16:44:45 | langhaarrocker | That explains the behaviour. |
16:45:51 | langhaarrocker | bug report: I have a broken mp3 file. Please correct rockbox so that it guesses what my file should have looked like. |
16:48:11 | Zagor | :-) |
16:51:28 | langhaarrocker | Btw: is this idea about loadable "rocks" (==modules) still pending? Is there anything I could take care of to make new code so that it can be converted into a "rock" easily one day? |
16:52:15 | Zagor | not while still being able to compile today |
16:52:27 | Zagor | the idea is still alive, just postponed post-2.0 |
16:53:38 | matsl | Zagor: Do you set a c-mode style in your .emacs or just use rockbox-mode.el? |
16:53:53 | Zagor | i have a rockbox-mode too |
16:54:27 | matsl | I saw that kjer had problem with emacs and cc-mode since it default to GNU-style. |
16:54:37 | Zagor | yeah |
16:55:02 | Hadaka | 'c-set-style' is your friend (or rockbox-mode) |
16:55:44 | matsl | I wanted to add '(c-set-style "ellemtel")' to rockbox-mode.el but want to find someone to test it first. |
16:57:15 | Hadaka | hmmh, is the indent offset in rockbox code really 3? |
16:57:36 | matsl | No it is four. |
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16:57:59 | Hadaka | thought so - so why don't you make your own style there then? |
16:58:46 | matsl | we have firmware/rockbox-mode.el but it just sets a few variables. It isn't a complete style. |
16:59:26 | matsl | I just wanted to patch that by setting ellemtel-style first before the rockbox adjustments. |
16:59:51 | Hadaka | well, you should do (c-add-style "rockbox" '("ellemtel" (c-basic-offset . 3))) etc. |
16:59:56 | Hadaka | and then c-set-style "rockbox" |
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17:00:45 | Hadaka | you can do that in rockbox-mode.el - manipulating the stuff by hand is ugly |
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17:01:44 | matsl | Hadaka: you don't understand. I want to change rockbox-mode.el so that a novice user will get the right settings. |
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17:03:25 | elinenbe | quick bugs: keyboard should force the default font |
17:03:37 | elinenbe | recording screen should force default (system) font |
17:04:28 | Hadaka | matsl: I wasn't referring to that - I was just saying that first doing c-set-style to some style and then hand manipulating some settings is ugly and should not be done, unless there's a very good reason |
17:05:06 | Zagor | we seriously need to fix better uisim key handling |
17:05:09 | Hadaka | matsl: the problem of getting the correct settings for a novice user outright has several solutions, depending on how you wish to setup the rockbox-mode.el |
17:05:46 | matsl | Hadaka: Your right. rockbox-mode.el need to be fixed. If you have a suggestion how to do it . Shoot. |
17:06:08 | Hadaka | matsl: I did already - but I could work out a patch as well, if that's easier |
17:06:34 | matsl | Hadaka: It isn't checked in. |
17:08:36 | Hadaka | (c-add-style "rockbox" '("ellemtel" (c-basic-offset . 4))) |
17:08:43 | Hadaka | (c-set-style "rockbox") |
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17:09:54 | Zagor | I also want (c-set-offset 'case-label '+) or whatever it's called |
17:10:04 | Zagor | i have when switch and case are on the same level |
17:10:05 | Hadaka | that can go into rockbox-mode.el, and it will automatically select the "rockbox" style for the files |
17:10:21 | matsl | OK. I thought you were refering to something with a bit more of bells and whissels. |
17:10:28 | Hadaka | (c-add-style "rockbox" '("ellemtel" (c-basic-offset . 4) (case-label . '+))) |
17:14:02 | Bagder | hm |
17:14:24 | Bagder | sourceforge adds a footer to a mailing list I subscribe, that triggers my spam filter! ;-/ |
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17:21:13 | elinenbe | hardeep!!! |
17:25:33 | hardeep | heya |
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17:41:38 | matsl | Hadaka: Need advice about rockbox-mode.el |
17:41:54 | Hadaka | matsl: do tell |
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17:42:44 | matsl | Its use is overloaded IMHO. Both defining the style and sometimes loaded from local variables. |
17:43:19 | matsl | For cc-mode to work in all files we would like to se the c-mode-hook. |
17:43:44 | matsl | But the user, like me, might have his own definitions already. |
17:44:18 | matsl | Hadaka: Hard to explain. Do you see my problem? |
17:45:14 | Hadaka | somewhat, yes - there are several ways once can go with this |
17:45:54 | matsl | Hadaka: Maybe educate the user to load the rockbox-mode.el for the definition and set up his own c-mode-hook. |
17:46:22 | Schnueff | every user should care for his own editor imho |
17:46:35 | Schnueff | if he has local settings, he knows how to merge them with rockbox-supplied settings |
17:48:01 | Hadaka | matsl: it's hard to get the novice user path working perfectly - since the only way you can "guarantee" loading of some file is the eval hooks in every file - and that's annoying to everyone else as they have to accept their execution then |
17:49:03 | matsl | Hadaka: Aggreed. Not all files have the local variable setting either. I think it should be removed. |
17:49:23 | Hadaka | one solution to the whole mess is to actually define 'rockbox-mode' as a real mode and then add '-*- rockbox -*-' to every file |
17:49:39 | Hadaka | but then the newbie must have rockbox-mode around to make it really work well |
17:49:54 | Hadaka | and that having it as a separate mode just for some settings is a bit ugly |
17:50:04 | matsl | Agreed. |
17:50:18 | Hadaka | so, how about this: |
17:51:51 | Hadaka | rockbox-mode.el (should be named rockbox-dev.el or something though) just gives a few commands to use - adds the "rockbox" c-style, and adds perhaps a rockbox-common-settings command which sets indent-tabs-mode and c-set-style and so on - and then people can customize the auto-mode-alist to execute the thing for every file in the rockbox project? |
17:53:25 | matsl | Hadaka: Looks good. |
17:54:07 | elinenbe | there is a TON of flicker on the latest CVS when we are going through the menus and the directories |
17:54:28 | elinenbe | maybe it is just my build... I will download the bleeding edge build |
17:55:23 | matsl | Hadaka: We could as well move the file to the tools folder. (and maybe rename it at the same time.) |
17:55:54 | Hadaka | yes, moving the file to the tools folder would be good |
17:56:20 | matsl | elinenbe: Kjer and I tried to remove some flicker today. |
17:56:42 | matsl | Hadaka: OK. I'll see what I can do. Must go to a meeting now. cu |
17:56:55 | Hadaka | but in general there's a problem that it'd be nice if a file from the rockbox project would always be recognized as a file from the rockbox project and rockbox style would be used on it - and that can be done with eval blocks in all files, but a bit different eval blocks than right now |
17:57:18 | Hadaka | mainly having (progn (require 'rockbox-dev) (rockbox-c-settings)) or something there |
17:57:30 | matsl | Hadaka: Agreed. |
17:57:35 | matsl | cu |
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17:57:52 | Schnueff | can't this be achieved without having the files modified? |
17:58:35 | Hadaka | Schnueff: how to recognize the file from other .c files then? |
17:59:20 | Schnueff | in vim (with a plugin) i can put a local configuration file in the directory of the rockbox projects |
17:59:33 | Hadaka | ohh, that's possible too |
17:59:42 | Hadaka | just write a little elisp to check for that |
17:59:44 | Schnueff | whenever i open a file below the rockbox dir, vim looks for the conf and uses it |
17:59:58 | Bagder | I'm glad they finally made that |
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18:00:05 | Schnueff | this avoid having editor-specific information in the source files |
18:00:16 | Bagder | I go nuts about those darned vim instructions everywhere ;-) |
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18:00:26 | Hadaka | you said with a plugin? does that mean I have to install something else on top of vim to have this in it? |
18:00:36 | * | elinenbe is sad there is too much flicker on the latest recorder build! |
18:00:38 | Schnueff | in this case, yes |
18:02:15 | Schnueff | (plugin = a few lines of vim script code) |
18:02:17 | Hadaka | does it look in all the parent directories of the file or just the topmost directory? |
18:03:16 | Schnueff | i think all, cf. the description in http://www.vim.org/script.php?script_id=441 |
18:03:41 | Schnueff | (mbr brought u this :) |
18:03:57 | Hadaka | script:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
18:04:11 | Schnueff | hm i see |
18:04:21 | Schnueff | w8 |
18:04:29 | Schnueff | hm |
18:04:43 | Schnueff | the site usually worx |
18:04:52 | Hadaka | nods, well I can look at it later |
18:04:57 | Schnueff | k |
18:05:17 | Schnueff | Hadaka: u use both vim & emacs? |
18:05:26 | elinenbe | does anyone know anything about the flicker on the latest build? |
18:06:22 | Bagder | nope |
18:06:52 | Bagder | I'll have a look |
18:07:03 | Hadaka | Schnueff: yes |
18:07:35 | Schnueff | i c |
18:08:49 | Hadaka | heh, now the whole site seems to be not answering |
18:08:57 | Schnueff | hehe u did it |
18:09:08 | Schnueff | hm i got a reload now |
18:10:14 | Schnueff | seems to work now |
18:11:58 | Hadaka | yeah! now got it |
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18:13:46 | Bagder | elinenbe: the flicker is when you scroll in the dir browser? |
18:14:00 | elinenbe | Bagder: yes |
18:14:10 | Bagder | I can see it in the sim |
18:14:23 | elinenbe | Bagder: it looks really bad, but this is the first build I have put on in about 20 days |
18:14:41 | Hadaka | hmm, no caching or everything, every file open will cause statting of all the paths below it for .lvimrc - and no safeguard against malicious ones |
18:14:47 | Hadaka | this will need a bit more thought for emacs |
18:15:23 | elinenbe | Bagder: the entire directory flickers along with "title bar" |
18:15:33 | Bagder | yes I see that too |
18:15:37 | Bagder | I'm on to it |
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19:08:12 | Bagder | elinenbe|out: try the latest code now |
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19:31:36 | ricII | yo |
19:31:47 | Bagder | hey |
19:32:51 | ricII | Bagder: did you have a peek on my new playlist code ? |
19:33:21 | Bagder | nope |
19:33:27 | Bagder | where is that? |
19:33:44 | ricII | not finished yet but it give a idea.. |
19:34:10 | ricII | my-laptop.xs4all.nl/playlist.c |
19:35:08 | Bagder | first comment: try follow the rockbox source code style |
19:35:32 | ricII | I will.. |
19:35:45 | Bagder | this is really hard to read |
19:36:18 | ricII | it more condensed, giving me a better general view.. |
19:36:53 | ricII | but when it returned it will be in rockbox style ofcourse |
19:37:54 | ricII | it tries to implement dynamic playlists, queing, inserts, deletes... |
19:38:33 | Bagder | I'll try to read it again when you've edited it |
19:39:08 | ricII | removal of a 'queued song' is now done on the wrong place.. |
19:40:42 | ricII | I could try to explain in words, so I could get your opion |
19:41:09 | Bagder | I'd prefer if you wrote it down in a mail and posted it |
19:41:25 | Bagder | I'm about to leave any sec now |
19:41:57 | ricII | ok I already had some discusion with hardeep & zagor about it. |
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19:44:21 | ricII | prob is I'm to busy to work on it this week, expect something next week.. |
19:53:10 | Bagder | see ya |
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21:26:11 | quel|out | cu! |
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22:38:17 | duke_sam_vimes | hello all |
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23:00:39 | | Nick slazZ|QoS is now known as slazZ (~slazZ@b101096.adsl.hansenet.de) |
23:00:42 | slazZ | hi! |
23:00:47 | slazZ | hi seb! |
23:01:25 | slazZ | did anybody of you dl the new queue feature by Neo? |
23:02:30 | slazZ | hello??? |
23:03:10 | slazZ | hm.. |
23:03:51 | ricII | no, where can I find it? |
23:05:23 | slazZ | Neo said so in the funmp3player Forum |
23:05:45 | slazZ | its the newest daily build |
23:06:06 | slazZ | but i have a problem with this great new feature |
23:06:38 | slazZ | my ajb said that the queue buffer is already full... |
23:06:57 | Zagor | slazZ: you need to creat a .rockbox dir in the root |
23:07:16 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK slazZ |
23:07:16 | slazZ | ThanX , hope it works |
23:09:51 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
23:10:07 | slazZ | how can i type the dot, so windows accepted it? |
23:10:16 | Zagor | open a dos prompt |
23:10:33 | slazZ | yes |
23:11:06 | slazZ | and then? |
23:11:24 | MrSnazz | mkdir X:\.rockbox |
23:11:29 | MrSnazz | where X is the drive letter of your archos |
23:11:50 | slazZ | i only do“nt know the create command, thx |
23:12:11 | ricII | how is this differnt from the one in cvs ? |
23:12:40 | Zagor | it's the one |
23:12:53 | Zagor | just a bit of confusion :-) |
23:13:00 | slazZ | hehe |
23:14:52 | ricII | pff (not doing my work... playing with rockbox instead :) ) |
23:15:17 | slazZ | yeah! great! it works!!! :-) |
23:15:23 | hardeep | woo, work is far less important |
23:15:43 | hardeep | btw, that star game that was posted is pretty good |
23:15:49 | slazZ | ThanX Zagor&MrSnazz |
23:16:06 | slazZ | for rockbox? |
23:16:10 | hardeep | simple game, but addictive. :) |
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23:16:35 | hardeep | slazZ: yes |
23:16:47 | slazZ | thanks a lot, have to go now - bye |
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23:17:04 | hardeep | the chip8 games, on the other hand, are not all that great |
23:17:05 | ricII | gotto check that.. |
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23:56:22 | | Nick elinenbe|out is now known as elinenbe (M-SLR@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) |
23:56:34 | elinenbe | the flicker has been fixed by the smart Badger |
23:56:39 | elinenbe | woohoo!!! |