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#rockbox log for 2003-01-30

00:00:24Sparksan Mstation is a car MP3 player - sometimes called a Neo
00:00:49MTthats what i bought my archos for ;)
00:00:58Sparksit doesnt resume in playlists, that is a REAL pain
00:01:15Jet8810just buy $40 car kit for archos
00:01:20Sparksdoes this remember it was playing a playlist now?
00:01:26Jet8810or just get a tape adapter and car charger on your own
00:01:30Jet8810then no need for car mp3 player
00:01:59Sparkstrue! - i have the "Jukebox Kit"
00:02:17Sparksbut the remote control doeant work on the FM Recorder :(
00:02:18Jet8810so why not just use that?
00:02:22Jet8810oh...that sucks
00:02:27Jet8810but you can do the other stuff
00:02:42Jet8810you can probably get away with selling the remote for 10 or maybe even $15 though
00:02:47Jet8810lots of peopel want to buy the remote alone
00:03:17Sparksit is just the mStation is permantly installed, and i'm kinda attached to it :)
00:03:18*NibbIer wants the remote alone
00:04:04Jet8810heh :)
00:04:08Jet8810yea Nibbler, its nice
00:04:22NibbIerbut i dont need the other stuff as i dont have a car
00:04:42Sparksmaybe they will fix the firmware for the remote?
00:06:11Sparksyea, i know :) - do you know if the remote not working is a hardware, or firmware issue?
00:06:39NibbIerguess its hardware, but dunno
00:07:13Sparksi thought the same, but i read on a website somewhere that it was the firmware's fault!
00:08:16Sparks"Despite Archos' best efforts with firmware the Remote Control does not work with Archos Jukebox Recorder models" - from
00:08:39Sparksthey also say "It's not a brilliant remote control at the best of times, so it makes little difference. The other components of the accessory kit, particularly the car adapters, are still worth having."
00:09:45Sparksis the "Archos Accessory Kit" the car kit, or is that a different thing?
00:11:28NibbIeri think its the same
00:11:52NibbIeram i right, dukebox sais a normal jbr does not work with the remote???
00:12:21Sparksno, just the FM Recorder
00:12:27NibbIerah, thought so :)
00:12:32MTi need to find somewhere that doesnt want to completely rip me off for a 60gb notebook hd
00:12:50Sparkshow much have you seen them for then?
00:13:09MTas ive got another 300 albums to put on, and only 3gb left of my 20 :/
00:13:13NibbIer35 euro
00:13:15MTaround £180
00:13:24MT£70 euro
00:13:30MT270 euro
00:13:41NibbIeroh, ignore my "35 euro"
00:13:42Sparks£180 inc VAT?
00:13:54MTbut thats what companies are for :)
00:14:30MT'digital dictaphone' is what my jukebox went onto my tax return as ;)
00:15:10Sparksi can get a Fujitsu MHS2060AT 60GB 2.5" 4200rpm Notebook HDD for £137.95 plus VAT
00:15:54SparksHitachi DK23EA-60 60GB 2.5" 4200rpm Notebook HDD - £139.95
00:16:21 Quit edx ()
00:16:43Sparksthey are from - but you need an account with them to see the prices
00:16:54MTthey reliable?
00:17:03Sparksyou can get the same stuff from, but it is a few quid more
00:17:14SparksBluepoint are v.reliable
00:17:45Jet8810those dirves are expensive
00:17:51Sparksif you ring them, ask to speak to Amanda - she is my account manager & seems efficiant!
00:17:52Jet8810why do you need more then 20gb?
00:18:07MTbecause i have more than 20 gb of data
00:18:10Sparksi have 30gigs of MP3s already
00:18:20MTi have about 40 gb of mp3s
00:18:24Sparksand i only just got the archos :)
00:18:42Jet8810well then its gonna cost ya
00:18:42MTplus i use it to shuttle movies i download at uni, to home
00:18:46Sparkssomeone has been using kazaa way too much :)
00:18:48MTfaster than 56k \o/
00:18:57MTi have all the cd's out back
00:19:03MTmost of them
00:19:19Sparkswhat connection are you on?
00:19:35Sparksohh, poor you :P
00:19:54Sparks1 megabit Boradband is soooo nice :D
00:20:04MTbut when i go into university, and download from friends
00:20:12MTi get a handy 2 MB/sec
00:20:19MTthats BYTES not bits ;p
00:20:39SparksBleeding hell - nice :)
00:21:13Sparkscompletly OT, but do you know how i can get ident working on Linux?
00:21:34NibbIerstart identd?
00:21:41Sparksi cant connect to this IRC Server with MIRC, as i have no ident server on my gateway Linux box :(
00:21:51MTyou shouldnt need ident
00:22:02MTit just waits for an ident responce
00:22:08MTand if it doesnt get one
00:22:15MTafter about 30s
00:22:27NibbIerjust open port 113
00:22:27Sparksit winges, and doent let me connect to
00:22:29MTit uses what you said to your USER command
00:22:42Sparkslosing Link: Sparks (Invalid username [])
00:22:49Jet881060gb drives going for about $185 US AFAICS
00:22:50MTthats because freenode is shit :)
00:23:11Sparksah, what other server can i conenct to to get here!
00:23:35MTthey had my host (and the rest of our /8) flagged as an open proxy
00:23:48MTbecause we happen to run a few irc servers on port 8080
00:24:10Sparksthey list looked for an open port, and didnt bother to see what was there!
00:24:26 Quit elinenbe ("I am leaving for a very important meeting")
00:24:29MTand then gave the kill message that we were listed in a blacklist
00:24:35MTwhich we werent ;)
00:24:57Sparksso can you tell me a better server i can use!
00:25:19MTor just change your ident
00:25:30Sparksah, i got on! - i removed the . on my fake email address!!!
00:25:52MTthats poor tho, dancer should accept a .
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00:26:16Sparksthis one is going now
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00:26:29__Sparks_much better :D
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00:27:11Sparksi see the player shuts down faster now...
00:27:54Sparksohh, it wont boot again :( - it probably thinks the battery is dead
00:28:09MTdo you have usb2 already sparks?
00:28:22Sparksyea, got the card for £10
00:28:26MTi didnt, and found the best price for pci card for £10
00:28:30MTebuyer? ;)
00:28:33Sparksyea :)
00:28:42Sparkscouldnt belive it
00:28:47MTme either
00:28:47Sparksuntil it arrived!
00:28:56MTeverywhere else was like £40-45
00:29:11Sparksmaybe it was a mistake!
00:29:24MTproper NEC chip as well ;)
00:30:14Sparksyea, my normal suppler was about £30
00:30:27Sparksthey are not down to £18.50
00:30:31Sparksnot ->now
00:31:03Sparksjust tried the remote, still dead on the FM recorder :(
00:31:56Sparksdo you have the FM Recorder?
00:32:34MTi do
00:32:38Sparksi have noticed the backlight flikering a bit when the disk is seeking & wasn't sure if that was normal
00:32:56Sparksgood, it isn't just mine then :)
00:32:59MTbacklight seems to come on when there is disk activity
00:33:08Sparksyea, that too
00:33:19MTif you dont mind me asking, how much you pay for your fm?
00:33:33Sparkserrm, hang on a sec
00:33:56Sparks£259.08 plus VAT
00:34:09MTyou serious?
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00:34:17Sparksfrom - was the cheapest i coud find
00:34:20Sparksis that a lot!?
00:34:21MTrma it
00:34:30MTand order it form watford
00:34:34MTi paid £180+VAT
00:35:02MTit was one of their janruary specials
00:35:22Sparksit is still £180.00
00:35:59Sparkssorry, i paid 213.12 for the recorder
00:36:12Sparksbought some other stuff too
00:36:35MTif you go to
00:36:41MTand tap archos into the search box
00:36:48MTits there
00:36:52MTand for £180
00:36:57Sparksstill, over £33 cheaper from them :(
00:37:09MTaltho it says stock TBA
00:37:10SparksAvalability is TBA though
00:37:14MTi ordered mine
00:37:22MTand i rang up to make sure they would get it
00:37:41MTand they said "yeah, were jsut selling lots of them, got another 1000 coming in on wednesday"
00:38:41Sparksdunno if i can be arsed to send it back though - i bought it 28th December, and i think you can only send it back after 14 days for no faults
00:39:17MTprobably was best price on 28th december ;)
00:39:39Sparksyou'r just trying to make me feel better now ;)
00:40:26Sparksdod you read the warrenty on it - they try to limit it loads, but then it states "1.preclude the disclaimers and limitations in this Warranty Statement from limiting the statutory rights of a consumer (e.g., the United Kingdom); "
00:41:20Sparksdod you get any warrenty information with yours? - emailed it to me, as it isn't included in the package
00:41:38Sparksdod->did (twice)
00:42:04MTno, but worryingly, i had some french guys mp3's on there ;)
00:42:11Sparksyea, same here
00:42:27Sparksi think they must be freeware ones
00:42:43Sparksi was about to box it up, and moan!
00:42:53MT20gb ipod is£449+VAT
00:43:04MTwhat a con
00:43:11MTyou could get two archos for that ;0
00:43:20Sparkscant believe they are so much - do they have radio's?
00:43:25Sparksand can they record?
00:43:33MTi dont think so
00:43:35Sparksand retro record?
00:43:40Sparksapple suckz
00:43:45MTno line in
00:44:01MTits tiny tho
00:44:07Sparksi can email you the warrenty doc if you like
00:44:46Sparksthe Archos is just "Substantial"
00:45:06MTits not that much smaller
00:45:07MTor lighter
00:45:10Sparksand no rockbox fro the ipod :)
00:45:30Jet8810I have used an ipod
00:45:40Jet8810imagine the archos without rubbers
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00:45:44Jet8810and yet even a bit thinner
00:45:54Sparksi think it is just a different shape - thinner, but taller
00:46:14Jet8810but I think it KILLS the archos as far as all the loose ends tied together
00:46:45Sparksbut it is bloody expencive!
00:47:47Sparksdo you want the warrenty doc MT?
00:48:33MTnah, i'll only end up having to use it ;)
00:48:45MTive got it insured against accidental damage anyways
00:49:31MTanyone know what voltage / current i should be putting into a fm recorder?
00:49:37Sparksgood idea, i need to do that too, and my camcorder!
00:49:39MTi want to get a car charger
00:49:54MTbut i already have most of the kit
00:49:59MTie tape adaptor
00:50:15Sparkswell the mains adaptor is 6.0V @ 700mA
00:50:19MTso the accessory kit is out
00:51:16Jet8810MT, what insurance against accidental damage do you have?
00:51:26Sparksjust noticed the car power adaptor is 9v @500mA
00:51:28MTas you get crap headphones (got em), tape adaptor (got em), audio RCA connector (got em), wired remote (doesnt work) and and power adaptor
00:51:51MTi just did it with lloyds, added it to my home + contents
00:52:08MT£240 + £50 excess
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00:52:21MTcost me £15/yr
00:53:21Sparkshmm, just noticed the voltage diferance between the AC adaptor, and the car PSU - AC Adaptor is 6v, and the car one is 9
00:53:40Sparksmaybe that is why they say toy souldnt use that kit with the FM
00:53:56Sparksunless there is a regulator inside
00:53:58MTi didnt think that one would work
00:54:12MTbecause the fm has different batteries completely
00:54:22Jet8810the car one has a switch
00:54:24Jet8810you can change the voltage
00:54:27Sparksthe car adaptor has selectable voltage,
00:54:28MToh does it?
00:54:43MTstill not paying £30 for a power adaptor :)
00:54:45Sparksyea, but the manual says put it on 9v
00:54:54Jet8810and it is regulated
00:55:00Jet8810it says regulated dc/dc adapter
00:55:01Jet8810lol its $35 for whoel kit, shipped
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00:55:22Sparksregulated to 500mA
00:55:41MTbut i already have * out of the whole kit, apart from the adaptor
00:55:55Jet8810so you have everythin gexcept the car adapter?
00:56:09MTi have everything apart from the car power adaptor search for JY53H
00:58:12MT9V @ 700mA
00:58:22MTor 6V @ 400 mA
00:58:32Sparksyea, 100mA lower :(
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00:59:18Sparksjust looking through another catalogue :)
01:00:05MTmy tape adaptor has a funny story
01:00:13MTbought it 4-5 years ago
01:00:19MTto listen to cd's in the car ofc
01:00:27MTproper sony kit
01:00:47MTit cleverly has a mechanism that has a higher resistance if it plays the 'wrong' side
01:00:56MTofc='of course'
01:01:23MTso that it switches back to the right side
01:01:33MTso you dont have to worry about what side it is on
01:01:36MTunfortunately that mech freezes, or tightens in the cold
01:01:43MTso it constantly flicks between sides
01:01:51MTdoes it on every tape deck ive ever tried
01:02:05MTfinally got pissed off with it start of jan, when it was so cold
01:02:11MTcracked it open
01:02:16MTremoved the offending article
01:02:22MTworked 100% since :)
01:02:34Sparkslol, it was too cleaver!
01:03:22Sparksi remember when i got my first car, i had a portable CD player, and becuase i couldnt afford a new sterio, i bought one of the tape adaptors - trouble was, by kack sterio's reverse tape mech was buggerd, and it would only play the "wrong" side
01:03:26MTi NEED one of those :)
01:03:53Sparksso i cracked the adaptor open, and turned the head round ;)
01:04:01Sparksthat fixed it :)
01:04:35Sparksthen it wouldnt work in any other sterio, but that stopped people borowing it :D
01:04:39MTim tempted to try the backlight led mod on the archos
01:04:46MTas that looks good
01:05:04Sparksohh, that would look gr8 in blooooo
01:06:07Sparkspretty major ripping apart!
01:06:45MTits not too 'out there' as mods go
01:06:54Sparksjust looked at your maplin link - v.useful!
01:07:05MTtheres someone here who has desoldered their ram chip, and replaced it with an 8 MB one
01:07:11Sparksi suppose - that memory upgrade looks scary
01:07:32MTsame guy modified his jukebox so it has a wakeup timer too
01:07:49Sparkslike the FM recorder already has
01:07:52MTwhich is something they should have built into the machine already
01:08:07MTdoes it?
01:08:18Sparksi think so...just looking
01:08:36MTprobably wont in rockbox yet ;(
01:08:57Sparksno, cant see it there
01:09:13Sparksthe backligh keeps turning off whil navigaing menu's!
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01:11:37Sparksjust booted in "normal" mode, and it has an alarm finction :)
01:12:45Sparksyou set a date too
01:13:23Sparksso i could tell it to turn on in a few months!
01:14:47MTdoes it turn itself on tho
01:14:54MTsoon find out
01:15:03MTalarm set for 2 minutes ;)
01:17:01Sparksyou have set the date & time i hope :P
01:18:22MTset it for daily
01:19:17MTdidnt work
01:20:25Sparksis the real time set on the player?
01:20:56Sparksjsut trying mine...
01:21:21Sparksmine works!
01:21:52MTturns the player on?
01:22:02Sparksafter you set the alarm, i think you have to choose what track you want it to play
01:22:08Sparksyep, the player booted it's self
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01:22:27Sparksnow it is shutting down again!?!?!?
01:24:13Sparkstrying again..
01:24:29Sparksbooting it's self again...
01:25:06Sparksnot playing what was playing last though - seems to have selected the playlist in the root
01:25:51Sparksit plays for 1 minute, then shuts off!
01:26:09Sparksu had any joy @MT?
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01:31:04Sparksu there MT?
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01:32:23Sparksi found somthing you will like @MT!
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01:34:08MTwent for smoke and coke scrummage
01:34:15MThad a smoke, no coke to be found :/
01:34:25MTnice :)
01:34:47Sparksa 2A version
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01:35:11Sparkswill charge faster ;)
01:35:22Sparksdunno if it will break it though :/
01:35:37Sparksand they are fairly cheap :D
01:35:39MTi havent even reached the level where i run out of power with this baby yet tho :)
01:35:47MTand thats using it 7-10 hrs a day ;)
01:36:14Sparksis that just listning to a playlist, or are you playign about with it?
01:37:46Sparksone thing that the archos does that is not good, is it is slow when navigating the directories - the mStation indexes the whole HDD whenever somthing changes, and saves it to a file
01:38:00Sparksthis i like
01:38:21MTrockbox is MUCH faster than archos
01:38:36MTi found archos to be very sluggish browsing
01:38:43MTalso when changing track
01:39:00Sparksoh good, i will rename the file back, and play:)
01:39:04MTid press right three times, it would play 2 minutes of the next track, then all of sudden jump two tracks
01:39:54Sparksi had noticed that sometimes if you are in a playlist, then start skipping forward, it would skip forward on the display, but still be playing the previous track
01:41:34Sparksmuch much much faster now ;D
01:42:55Sparksi put the warantee up on a web page if u want it
01:43:33Sparksi am off now, will probably see you in here another time!
01:44:43SparksSee ya ;)
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01:59:44Sparksu still about MT?
02:01:42Sparksdoes anyone know how to activate the keylock on the FM Recorder 20?
02:02:13adi|workread the docs
02:06:15Sparksbefore i put archos20030129.ajz on you held the on button
02:06:23Sparksthat now changes the pitch!
02:07:05adi|workwelcome to the bleeding edge :)
02:07:30Sparksah, found it :)
02:08:12adi|workwhich was it?
02:08:29Sparksi think it would be nice if it didn't turn on the light when you press a key with th lock on (saves battery!)
02:08:39SparksF1 and Down
02:08:41adi|workhmm.. not a bad idea
02:08:54adi|workbut.. keylock works in the wps if i remember correctly
02:08:59adi|workwhat if i want to see the screen
02:09:48adi|workwhile playing screen
02:10:08adi|workyou on player or recorder?
02:10:14SparksFM recorder 20
02:10:18adi|workokay... its f1 and down right?
02:10:20adi|workfor keylock
02:10:27*adi|work just looked at the source
02:10:50Sparksthen maybe only turn on the light when you press, say F1 and F3 when keylock is on
02:11:02adi|workput it in as a feature request
02:11:06Sparksand maybe toggle it on
02:11:12Sparksokay, will do
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02:26:38Sparkshow long does it take before a request shows up?
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02:31:02zack]when is 2.0 comming out?
02:31:23zackI heard it was supposed to come out the 2nd of this month, but I guess not
02:31:26zackSo, when?
02:31:43Nibblerwhen it is ready
02:31:56Nibblerno date set
02:33:24zackhow close are you to it, and what goals are you tying to do now?
02:33:40zackgoals as in, what things are you tying to make for it?
02:34:15zackand, I also head of a calendar possibly, have you thought of it? It would be verrrry cool.
02:35:24zackanyone there?
02:35:38zackI thought this was the rockbox forum, not much activity
02:35:53Sparksi sublitted a request, but it hasn't shown up - is that nromal?
02:36:10Sparksdoes it take a while to show up?
02:36:35zackprobably, since most people on hear never reply in the forum
02:36:41Nibblerzack: its feature freeze now
02:36:46Nibblerdebugs get done
02:36:52Nibblerand when ready 2.0 is released
02:37:17Sparkswas that to me!?
02:37:21Nibblerwell, playlist building (recursive by directorys) will be included, should be in the 0600 build today
02:37:27zackso, you have you worked on the address thingy?
02:37:33Nibblerno idea Sparks
02:37:42*Nibbler didnt work on anything
02:38:14zacknibbler, you arn't are a firmware maker/builer?
02:38:30Nibbleri just hang here to listen to those who do
02:40:01zackI used to do that, till I realized not many people talk on here, exspecially the developers
02:40:21zackthat sucks though, I wish I could chat with bjorn
02:41:42zackhey, nibbler, have you ever put on any patches?
02:42:17Nibblerhave the CVS with the playlist-build, the sleep patch and.... what was it...
02:42:25Nibblerthe bookmark patch
02:42:29Nibblercurrently in use
02:43:12zackhey, I have downloaded everything, tried to put on the patches, I am an experienced pc user, but I can't put on any patches
02:43:32zackhave youi ever put on the "more games for rockbox" patch?
02:43:38Nibblerheh yes
02:43:44Nibblerthe "most interesting" patch
02:43:50Nibblerbut chip8 suxx i can tell u :)
02:44:17zackhey, are the games good?
02:44:23zackI want it so badly
02:44:27Nibblerit suxx
02:44:29zackI love the mini games
02:44:33Nibblerbut i can compile it for u if u want
02:44:35zacklike, what suxx?
02:44:36Nibblerthey are not playable
02:44:45Nibbleras key-mappings are weird
02:44:47zackI would love for you to compile it for me
02:44:53Nibblerand most of the time u dont even have the keys u would need
02:45:00zackbut could you compile it for me?
02:45:05Nibblerwhat u have?
02:45:18zackCould you put the chip8 patch
02:45:26zackon the jukebox recorder
02:45:44zackand what is the safest , lateest firmware?
02:45:44Nibbleri'll give u my 1-week old firmware then which i compiled back then
02:45:54Nibblerwell cant judge this
02:45:58Nibblergimme your email
02:46:00zackhey, do you have AIM?
02:46:00Nibblerill mail to u later
02:46:13zackit is :
02:46:15Nibblerhave to plug in my jbr for that
02:46:19Nibblerkk, ill send it over later
02:46:29zackSweet, you are the greatesr
02:46:34zackno one would do that for me
02:46:43zackhow long does it take to do it
02:46:55zack(Everyone said it took a long time)
02:47:01zackI was just wondering
02:47:11zackand tahts why they didn't do it
02:47:15Nibblerwell, setting up the stuff took me some h as latest gcc didnt compile on my machine
02:48:12zackyeah, thats what I mean
02:48:20zackmy GCC wouldn't compile
02:48:26zackand I have the newest
02:48:28zackbut continue
02:48:38Nibbleri switched back 1 version and this did compile then
02:48:46Nibblerthen it was easy
02:48:54zackso, what firmware version will you put it on?>
02:49:07Nibblerthe cvs version from 1 week ago
02:49:10zackIs it a bleeding edge or
02:49:22zackas ling as it isn't a bleeding edge
02:49:35zackI tried it on a cvs and the original 1.4
02:49:49Nibbleroriginal 1.4 is "crap" compared to latest builds
02:50:04Nibblerand everything i have is, or was bleeding edge at some time
02:50:17Nibblerthere was no official/stable release since 1.4
02:50:37zackI havn't downloaded the cvs since like Dec
02:50:43zackthere hasn't been any changes
02:51:01zackworthwile, has there?
02:51:02Nibblerwhat? no changes?
02:51:09Nibblerits changes every day now
02:51:18Nibblerwell... almost :D
02:51:35Jet8810heh yea
02:51:50Nibbleri'll try to applie the chip8 to my version with sleep, bookmark and playlist
02:51:58zackway cool
02:52:00Nibblerif it does not fail u'll be even more up to date
02:52:24Nibblerplugging in my jukebox is just as much work as this :)
02:52:41zackis there a "hold function" on the jukebox, so it doesn't accidentaly be pressed>
02:53:05zackbeen wanting that funktion
02:53:14MTi think
02:53:51Sparksnope, F1 and DOWN
02:54:04zackright now, I went though all of my music on lots of cd's and organized about 2.9gb of music (never thought I had that much, and it is mostly metal/rap/rock
02:54:27zackand now I am transfering, but it is slow as hell
02:54:34MTyou need usb2 ;)
02:55:25zackI have the 15gb jukebox
02:55:56zackI have 1.1USB and Firewire, if only it supported firewire
02:56:07_seb_zack: I know how that is
02:56:11_seb_it's exactly the same for me
02:57:01zackabout 1/4 done transfering, its gonna be a long night
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02:58:14zacknibbler, could you give me an est on when to check my e-mail>
02:58:24zackYou don't have to rush
02:58:34Nibblerim just building it
02:58:36zackI'm jsut excited!
02:58:41Nibbleru want games/demos ?
02:58:48zackwhat do you mean?
02:58:50Nibblerthe normal rockboy ones im talking of
02:58:58zackYes please
02:59:26Jet8810what did I miss?
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03:01:54Nibblernothing much
03:02:05Nibblerzack: mail is out
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03:02:34Nibblerzack: u have to get the .ch8 files containing the games from the zip that is posted on sourceforge
03:02:40Nibbleroh :)
03:02:45Nibblerhe'll find out :)
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03:03:27zackhey, I was disconnected somehow
03:03:32zackdid anyone ask me a question?
03:03:38zackand I didn't answer?
03:03:43Nibbler[Thu-03:00:27] <Nibbler> zack: u have to get the .ch8 files containing the games from the zip that is posted on sourceforge
03:03:50Nibblerthats all afaik
03:04:10zackso, what do I need to do>
03:04:21zackI need to download the .ch8 files?
03:04:28zackwill do
03:04:33Nibblerin this zip they are
03:04:36zacklike, the whole patch?
03:04:48Nibblerbut u only need the .ch8 stuff
03:04:55Nibblerput in anywhere on your jukebox
03:04:58Nibblerand play the files
03:05:02zackI downloaded it
03:05:18zackanywhere correct>
03:05:29zackoh, I get it
03:05:34zackthey are the game files
03:06:04Nibbleryes, right, positive
03:06:23zackdamn, my dukebox died, while transferring
03:06:57zacknow I have to get the charger, and do it again
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03:08:17zackcool, got it
03:09:02Nibblerthe sleep patch is said to save ~10% power.... but have not really tested it, build thisone today myself, too
03:10:10_seb_I don't even want to know what keyboard layout you're using to make that typo :)
03:12:54zacknow testing
03:12:59zacklets see if it reads it
03:16:41zackis there a way to make the contrast stay the same, everytime you boot up a firmware? Because I always have to set it back to 30, everytime, as if it never remembers(this is before you firmware nibbler)
03:17:09Nibblerwith some changes in the code the config file format has to change
03:17:14Nibblermaking old configs invalid
03:18:12zackhey, where you the one, who made the chip8 patch?
03:18:28zackbecause, whoever made it, said they would make a follow up
03:19:01Nibbleri did not code anthing
03:19:42zackI meant like, whoever submitted the patch, siad they would amke a follow up
03:19:57zackis there any game, that was good on chip8 that you palyed?
03:20:06zackI am trying some now
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03:20:37Nibbler|zZzZZZRRi never had chip8
03:20:41Nibbler|zZzZZZRRand i tested them all
03:20:42Nibbler|zZzZZZRRall suck
03:20:56Nibbler|zZzZZZRRthe pacman might be good but i cant figure out the controls completely
03:21:08Nibbler|zZzZZZRRand some pong-like ones are pretty ok also
03:21:51zackyeah, I only play the games on long trips, when playing music, and when bored of all the music I had on it
03:22:05Nibbler|zZzZZZRR15gig is 10 days minimum
03:22:07zackbut I always load new music on it, so i never get bored
03:22:28zackis there even 15gig of music
03:22:33Nibbler|zZzZZZRRim in my bed now, have fun with the chip8 stuff :)
03:22:39zackwhat filesharer do you use?
03:22:43Nibbler|zZzZZZRRi have 60gig here at home
03:22:51zackI use kazaa
03:23:00Nibbler|zZzZZZRRwell, i use kazaa sometimes
03:23:08Nibbler|zZzZZZRRbut for normal its ripped cds
03:23:30Nibbler|zZzZZZRRits a students house where i live, everyone rips his cds and puts them on the server
03:23:48zackI have a lot of cds that were given to me, but usually, I never buy cds (too expensive)
03:23:51Nibbler|zZzZZZRRor complete album downloads
03:24:05zackwhat school u go to?
03:24:14Nibbler|zZzZZZRRuniversity in munich
03:25:11Nibbler|zZzZZZRRmain problem about germany is that it is 03:20 am
03:25:17Nibbler|zZzZZZRRso goodnight
03:25:22zacksee ya
03:25:33Nibbler|zZzZZZRRcya :)
03:25:39zackmy mom was in germany a couple days ago, cya
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05:20:31ricIIshit.... 5:20 local time..
05:22:09ricIIbut I have to get up @ 12:30.
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05:29:58elinenbericII: you are insane! have you been working on rockbox?
05:34:56PsycoXulwhy's the uh keyboard or whatever on the player not have space, _ and -
05:36:10PsycoXuland such things
05:36:13PsycoXulnumbers too i think
05:36:17PsycoXulam i missing something? heh
05:38:29elinenbePsycoXul: I think you are missing a recorder :)
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05:38:55adi|homeoh.. oh.. oh.. i want to switch to msn 8..
05:39:08adi|homei want a pedophile in a butterfly suit to follow me around!
05:49:09ricIIelinenbe ehh no, I have been working mye mail...
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06:28:51ricIIok, who else is feeling fit to talk to me?
06:29:48ricIIstill awake (localtime 6:32)
06:30:19ricIIhave to be present at 12:30..
06:30:30PsycoXulah the menu button.. cool
06:31:12*PsycoXul just found the rest of the chars on the keyboard
06:32:25ricIIPsycoXul: still stuck with a player ?
06:34:57ricIIwel,l you probealy heard I'm redesinging the pl-code..
06:35:19PsycoXuli dunno, have i?
06:35:29PsycoXulwhat you doing
06:36:00ricIIeeh eliminating play from ram...
06:36:25PsycoXulthats been planned for a long time heh
06:36:28PsycoXulso what else
06:36:38ricIIsimplify code reducing mem usage..
06:37:02PsycoXulthats always good
06:37:29ricIIallmost got things working (sort/shuflle & resume)
06:38:23ricIIbut little time to finisch my work..
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06:46:22ricIIit's not ready but It put's the idea...
06:51:02ricIII would realy like some feedback, since I'm stealling the time from my sleep.... If you guys thinks it crap... (no hard feelings here)
06:53:27PsycoXulfor some reason when i delete a file, it automatically like plays the next file
06:53:47PsycoXulso it just rolo'd old firmware and reset all my settings cause of it just now
06:57:25ricIIPsycoXul: I don't known about y'r status/skill (things I care little about) here, but Ii would like to known if this is what you guy want.
07:01:25ricIImaybe I sould stop thinking I can programm / contrubute, becase I think I'm a systems analist..
07:02:00PsycoXuli can't program
07:02:08PsycoXulbut i've contributed patches :p
07:02:26PsycoXulno doubt you're better at it than i am
07:02:45PsycoXulwhich is why i can't really say how this looks heh
07:04:57PsycoXulmy status/skill here btw is that i've contributed ideas and small patches/and little :p
07:05:06ricIImaybe it just my cry for ack..
07:06:00PsycoXulwell i'm not fluent enough in C to read through that and tell whats really going on heh
07:06:01ricIIidea I have a lot, like nethack 4 rockbox....
07:06:43PsycoXuli did a little character-tile game for the player back before rockbox was rockbox
07:06:51ricIImy C isn't fluent also..
07:06:59PsycoXuli always meant to do more with it, and some people have requested i do, but i never have :p
07:07:35PsycoXulit was just a test to see how feasible it was to have a game like that on an 11x2 screen
07:07:49ricIIfor me C is a tool like perl, php etc.
07:08:05PsycoXulbut it worked well enough that it might be worth somebody's effort to re-impliment the idea into a full-fledged game
07:08:25PsycoXuli was thinking a rogue-like type of thing too
07:08:56PsycoXulbut i got a pda recently and i've already got nethack on it hehe
07:09:03ricIIit would be realy great to have a game like nethack while listening to y'r mp3's..
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07:11:36ricIImodule loading in rockbox and stuff could give us some mem to do things (stiil have to do 8mb mod)
07:11:58PsycoXulheh yeah
07:12:29*ricII welcomes hardeep
07:12:57PsycoXulwell i saw a little page about porting nethack to the palm that mentioned re-implimenting it to read what it needs from files instead of keeping it in the executable, for such low-memory devices
07:13:18ricIIwell that's a start...
07:13:44PsycoXulmaybe it could be a generic little game engine that gets told what to do by files that you select in the browser heh
07:13:53ricIIhardeep: unfortunaly I have to get some sleep
07:14:24hardeeplaugh, i considered porting nethack to rockbox... the dream lasted a whole 5 mins. =)
07:14:33hardeeprogue would be a lot easier
07:14:53PsycoXuli dunno, we've already got a keyboard :p
07:15:15PsycoXulthats half the battle hehe
07:15:20hardeepricII: sorry, sleep is not an option
07:15:22ricIIwell it seems to run on a palm...
07:15:36PsycoXuldoes it?
07:15:43hardeeprogue does, yeah
07:15:51PsycoXuloh yeah?
07:16:10hardeepthere's an SF project for it
07:16:12ricIIhardeep: shit... 07:28 have to getup ~ 12:30 (localtime)
07:16:24PsycoXulnethack runs on my pda but it's practically a pocketpc
07:17:03hardeepricII: 5 hours sleep is plenty!
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07:17:23PsycoXulwhich reminds me, i should make a package for it i guess
07:17:25PsycoXulricII|sleep: night
07:17:28ricII|sleepyes.. but..
07:17:54hardeephmmmm, there's a nethack palm project but the last news was jan 2001 heh
07:17:57PsycoXuli had to get a custom bin from the people who do the wince nethack port for it to run on my particular pda... dll issues with the weird custom casio version of wince it's got
07:18:27PsycoXulthey haven't responded to me about if they'll put that bin up on their page or not
07:18:34PsycoXuland i haven't seen it put up
07:18:35ricII|sleephardeep take a look at , dying for feedback..
07:18:50PsycoXuland i know there's lots of people with these pda's who want a good rpg or whatever
07:18:54PsycoXulespecialy a free one
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07:19:25PsycoXulheh anyway
07:19:54ricII|sleephardeep: it just puts the idea..
07:21:24ricII|sleepI will read y'r comments in the log.. good night all
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08:10:45adi|homehowdy zagor
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09:52:19quelsarukeveryone asleep? or working?
09:54:36quelsarukoki doki
09:54:49quelsarukZagor: have u seen the F2 screen patch?
09:56:22Zagorsaw the patch, haven't tried it
09:57:07quelsarukit's just an option, to enable languages with long words
09:57:11quelsaruklike spanish :)
10:00:15*langhaarrocker is sleeping @ work
10:00:36ZagorI think you can make it work anyway. just skip the word "mode"
10:00:43quelsaruklanghaarrocker: sleeping at work... cool!!
10:01:12*langhaarrocker is disturbed by boss
10:01:18quelsaruksorry zagor? i have just wake up
10:01:31quelsarukmy neurons are not operative
10:01:57Zagorquelsaruk: ignore the "mode" word, that is cramped for space. just translate "shuffle", then spanish has plenty of room
10:05:12quelsarukbut Repetir mode: doesn't make sense :)
10:05:46quelsarukor you mean to say just Repetir?
10:06:05quelsaruki'm a bit stupid, and i'm asleep.. so... forgive me :)
10:07:37Zagoryes, just say "repetir". skip the "mode" word.
10:07:51ZagorI've been planning to do that in english too.
10:08:24Zagor"Shuffle: on/off" is just as clear as "Shuffle mode: on/off"
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10:13:15quelsarukbut using the "cool screen" that rockbox uses now?
10:13:25quelsarukor this linear screen?
10:16:05adi|homeZagor.. im code policing sokoban
10:16:17adi|homei was/am having it read the txt file for levels
10:16:26Zagorquelsaruk: the current screen
10:16:28adi|homeand realize that the code needed to be hammered a bit.
10:16:38Zagoradi|home: sounds good
10:16:56*adi|home notes that it's a post 2.0 patch ;)
10:18:00adi|homeZagor i gave the quick screens some thought regarding the translations not 'fitting' the way the english does...
10:18:13adi|homewhen we are in source.. do we have anyway to know what language we are using?
10:18:22*adi|home wonders if that made sense.
10:20:51quelsarukummm.. sense?
10:21:40quelsarukwhat's that
10:22:14Zagoradi|home: we shouldn't care
10:23:34adi|homeokay.. then nevermind :)
10:24:45quelsarukzagor, then we could have something like " Resume (next line) << (next line) on/off "
10:26:00Zagorquelsaruk: yes
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10:26:19quelsarukmay i do another patch then?
10:26:32quelsarukor *big boss* will do it? :P
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10:28:07quelsarukanyway.. i will find another word fof "scroll bar"
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10:28:44quelsarukre zagor
10:34:30quelsarukdid u read my last line?
10:38:56Zagor_quelsaruk: yes. did you see my question?
10:38:58Zagor_why? you can do it already
10:39:00Zagor_just have an empty "mode" string
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10:39:25quelsarukthat's true
10:39:30quelsarukmissa torpe
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11:55:04kargatisZagor, re: the genre file, you think Winamp is just being flexible in its reading of the tag (since it gets it right)?
11:55:50kargatisanyone else using EAC + LAME here? Evidently it's not producing ID3 genre tags in a robust manner
12:12:48Zagorkargatis: yes, winamp is very forgiving
12:13:06Zagormaybe we should too, but that's a feature request :-)
12:13:10kargatissearching the lame forum for clues
12:14:19kargatisit might be that eac writes the header, and LAME overwrites the id3 data...
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12:17:35Zagorkargatis: could be
12:17:58Zagorbut the header says EAC, so I think it does all the writing
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12:18:39kargatiswas looking at that
12:18:50kargatis"LAME replaces EAC text information by the number representation... Ask LAME developers..."
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12:20:41Zagorthat is not a problem. lame is doing the right thing.
12:20:54Zagor(#) is the correct format for id3v2.3
12:21:27kargatisso before i post there, TCON is 2.4, and what isright for 2.3?
12:21:52ZagorTCON is available for both, but 2.3 says to use numeric values while 2.4 allows text
12:22:18Zagorboth specs are available on the Documentation page
12:22:40kargatisso the problem is that for that file, TCON is text instead of #?
12:23:11kargatisah, so lame is *not* replacing it
12:23:18kargatisand eac is writing text
12:24:04Zagorlame only writes tags if you explicitly tells it to
12:24:50kargatishow do i look at headers? don't know what i need.
12:25:01kargatisi'd like to experiment, see if i can get it working
12:25:03Zagorjust use a hex editor
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12:26:34quelsarukkargatis: i use EAC
12:26:50kargatishave you tried %ig in your wps?
12:27:00quelsaruknot really
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12:27:35quel|outi have a really terrible morning. cu later
12:28:06kargatis"not really" - quel|out has "sorta" tried it. :)
12:29:50quel|outkargatis.. i made once a WPS and haven't got time to think another one :)
12:31:12kargatisZagor, ok, looking at file, i see that TCON is text. how is the v1 genre stored? that's at the end of the file, right?
12:32:01Zagorv1 is at end of file, yes. but v1 is not the issue here
12:32:21Zagorkargatis: your badheader.mp3 really confuses rockbox...
12:32:28kargatisi know, just wanted to see the genre in the file for v1, since it has both.
12:33:06kargatisis it a lefit feature request to have %ig default to the specified text if it's not a #?
12:33:48Zagorsure, it's a legit request.
12:34:19Zagorbut the request is more "Attempt to parse incorrect id3 data"
12:35:04kargatisbut it's potentially a widespread problem for EAC users
12:35:13Zagoryes, could be
12:35:20kargatiswhich would include most conscientious windows users
12:35:46Zagorwe should still point out this bug to the eac developers
12:36:35Zagormaybe that's why I never see id3v2.4 tags anywhere...
12:36:52kargatisEAC gives the option of 2.3 vs 2.4
12:36:56kargatisi have 2.3 checked
12:37:12Zagorok, so the bug is the TCON tag, not the header
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12:40:55kargatiswill look into it on the EAC side, thx for the help
12:41:25kargatisand, just to warn, given my many many files that have this problem, i'll probably submit the 'flexibility' feature request. :)
12:41:38kargatisthough i won't hold my breath
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12:55:20Zagorthat badheader.mp3 is really evil
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13:18:50Zagorkargatis: what created the badHeader.mp3 file? it claims to contain 0 mp3 frames...
13:20:09kargatisok, let me orientate...
13:20:24kargatisah, ok, bad header file...
13:20:29kargatisum, honestly, i can't remember
13:20:37Zagorit's broken bad
13:20:40kargatisit was in some transitory ripping/encoding situation
13:21:00kargatisit might have been an old audiocatalyst, before i was using eca/lame
13:21:27kargatisor maybe an earlier lame, where i was unfamiliar with standard options
13:21:49kargatiswish i could tell you more - it's like a 1-2 month ripping window, i have a few albums that are like that
13:21:59kargatisi thought it was just a missing vbr header or something
13:23:32Zagorno it's there alright. it's just FUBAR
13:23:35kargatiswinamp plays them fine, but can't figure out the running times
13:23:49Zagoryeah, I don't blame them... :-)
13:24:05Zagorwe play it too. we just have no clue how fast it's playing so we don't know when to start reloading.
13:24:38kargatiswell, if they're completely nonstandard shit files, invalidate it. should rerip them anyway. or maybe just do vbrfix on them?
13:24:54kargatisah, that explains the buffer-read problem then
13:24:55Zagortry vbrfix. it could work.
13:25:29Zagorunfortunately, just saying "bad file, we don't care" doesn't help. we'll get that bug reported again and again until we work around the bad files.
13:26:46Zagorthis is the "silent play" bug.
13:26:50kargatisso is it that you don't know how much data you've played at a given point, so don't know when the buffer's low?
13:26:58kargatishm, you think it's the same?
13:27:21kargatisi thought the silent play bug (mine, at least) was on a bad read, after jostling.
13:27:41Zagorwe know how much data we've played, but the watermark is calculated using the bitrate. no bitrate no watermark
13:27:57kargatisand that you fixed some problematic code - i know i saw much less silent playing afterwards
13:28:08Zagorok. well this is silent play too :-)
13:28:09kargatisperhaps that's why i finally noticed these files...
13:33:29kargatisman, my install of vbrfix is really screwy
13:33:50kargatiskeeps complaining the host dir doesn't exist, can't change options, or overwrite files. :-P
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14:52:20kargatisunsplitsville, finally
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15:00:25langhaarrockerI'm convinced that these netsplits are provoked by somebody who wants to write dirty words without being logged by logbot.
15:01:43Hesarse, i got caught
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16:23:23quelsarukhi again
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16:28:11Bagderis the linux 'mount' in the fileutils package?
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16:28:45Schnueffin debian its in the mount package
16:29:11Schnueffwhich comes from util-linux
16:29:20Bagderok, thanks
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16:29:50Bagderlearning new letters edx? ;-)
16:30:09[ABC]edxmore related to another channel ;)
16:30:28Bagderoh, many channels he joins
16:30:51[ABC]edxi made the win32 sim compile
16:31:16[ABC]edxthe peakmeter - is it supposed to work - and the recording?
16:31:28Bagderuh, never tried them in the sim ;-)
16:31:39[ABC]edxthey dont even compile, i mean
16:32:04Bagdermaybe they're not included in the sim build for x
16:32:20[ABC]edxi excludet them to get win32 sim to work
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16:34:30quel|coffeecu later
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16:36:47elinenbe|sleepBagder: morning
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16:36:52[ABC]edxBagder: argh!
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16:37:01[ABC]edxwhats that now:
16:37:03[ABC]edx../../apps\main_menu.c(264) : error C2065: 'LANG_CREATE_PLAYLIST' : undeclared i
16:37:58[ABC]edxlooks like the lang generation messed up? uhm...
16:38:21Bagderyes it does look like that
16:38:58[ABC]edx(clean doesnt delete lang.c and lang.h files)
16:39:10[ABC]edxmuch better now ;)
16:39:35[ABC]edxnow i remember a question i wanted to ask
16:40:02[ABC]edxin peakmeter.c - can i change inline to __inline? inline is not recognized by my win32 compiler... is it standard or what's it for?
16:40:34BagderI think 'inline' is the C99 style
16:40:51BagderI suggest you don't use inline at all in the sim
16:41:06Bagder#ifdef SIMULATOR \ #define inline \ #endif
16:41:14[ABC]edxwhere shall i put that?
16:41:23quel|coffeejust one of my stupid questions...
16:41:27[ABC]edxso that peakmeter uses it
16:41:54Bagderedx: put it in peakmeter.c, it is the only one using inline
16:41:59Bagderquel|coffee: yes?
16:42:07quel|coffeeif the id3 screen says that a song has a title...
16:42:45quel|coffeethen %it should show that title, or not?
16:43:25BagderI don't know the tags off the top of my head
16:43:42quel|coffee%it is song title
16:43:55quel|coffeetoday is not a good day for me
16:44:39quel|coffeei have a line like %?%it<%it|%d1>
16:45:00quel|coffeenot that
16:45:01[ABC]edxBagder: you know a parameter to ignore standard include files?
16:45:14Bagderedx: nope
16:45:21[ABC]edxBagder: otherwise you get an error compilingthe simluator the first time - if you retry you wont get the error (??!)
16:45:49quel|coffeei have a line like %?%it<%it|%fn> ( %it is file title, %fn is file name without extension)
16:46:11[ABC]edx C2375: 'win32_rename' : redefinition; different linkage
16:46:12quel|coffeeso if a song hasn't got title, it shows the file name, no?
16:48:20quel|coffeemy question is... if the id3 screen shows a title, that means that %it (song title) must have a value and the conditional displays the %it value... or not?
16:48:48BagderI'd say it sounds reasonable
16:49:16quel|coffeemy jukebox needs another exorcism then
16:51:28Bagdertime for sporting
16:51:31Bagdersee ya
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17:03:55elinenbesomeone check out my fade patch :)
17:05:01kargatis? you fade out every track?
17:07:28elinenbekargatis: no, just when you pause/unpause or stop
17:07:40elinenbeit works like winamp under windows
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19:12:30Kg-hi guy
19:13:08Kg-huhu i have buy archos multimedia 20 Go last saturday
19:13:18Kg-and i hate this fucking firmware ...
19:13:36Kg-Does Rockbox work with it ,
19:14:22quelsaruknot now
19:14:23Kg-which what ? ( sorry for my english i am french )
19:14:29Kg-yes multimedia
19:14:42Kg-soon ;) ?
19:14:43quelsarukjust recorder and player
19:15:44kargatisdefinitely not anytime soon
19:15:48kargatiscompletely different hardware
19:16:48quelsarukKg-: do you have programing skills?
19:17:23quelsaruki mean, maybe you could start rockbox development for the multimedia and use the existing code that work on the MM
19:17:39quelsarukjust an idea
19:17:59quelsarukalso you can wait until someone buys one... and start development :)
19:19:12Kg-i script a bit lol just for nwn
19:19:49Kg-why archos make shit firmware ? without game and cool stuff ;) ?
19:19:51quelsarukneverwinter nights :)
19:20:12quelsarukKg-: that's a mistery :)
19:20:34quelsarukwhy they don't give technical info to developers??
19:20:44Kg-and i want video cable
19:20:52quelsarukwhy winter is so cold?
19:21:30Kg-why capitalistic society want to destroy GNU siprit ?
19:28:34kargatispshaw! :)
19:28:35quelsarukwhere's edx when we need him?
19:29:20kargatisin a free market, some people want to make money, others want to share. perfectly normal human interaction.
19:29:31kargatisthere, will that suffice for edx? :)
19:29:51quelsarukyou have dried my last neuron
19:30:02quelsarukare you happy?
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19:48:18simehi guys
19:48:54simeanyone there?
19:51:27simei copied all the .zip file in my jukebox 20 root dir and reboot.. with sitll the same i haave to do somthing else?
19:58:45simeok nevermind.. letting the jukebox on charge dont reboot it
20:00:17Kg-multimedia jukebox ?
20:01:24simestudio 20
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20:02:27simewhat a great job you did..
20:02:34simethats cool
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20:18:02simeohw do i create a playlit?
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20:29:35adi|workyou hook your player up to your pc and build your playlist
20:29:39*adi|work shrugs
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20:47:01Josh_whoa...The Glass House is an amazing movie...just saw it
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22:48:54Jet8810does an FM transimittor get better or worse sound quality compared to the cassette adapters?
22:55:37Jet8810one plugs into ear jack and allows for say, a car stereo to turn to FM dial 87.7 say, the other goes into ear jack and allows for a tape deck player to plaly from audio source (sells with archos car kit)
23:00:29adi|workno idea..
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23:54:00brujoany idea when the battery problem of the fm recorder gets fixed?
23:55:45hardeepwhen someone with an fm recorder debugs the problem
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23:57:02brujohmm i can't
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