| 00:00:24 | Sparks | an Mstation is a car MP3 player - sometimes called a Neo |
| 00:00:39 | MT | ah |
| 00:00:49 | MT | thats what i bought my archos for ;) |
| 00:00:58 | Sparks | it doesnt resume in playlists, that is a REAL pain |
| 00:01:05 | MT | heh |
| 00:01:10 | Jet8810 | heh |
| 00:01:15 | Jet8810 | just buy $40 car kit for archos |
| 00:01:20 | Sparks | does this remember it was playing a playlist now? |
| 00:01:26 | Jet8810 | or just get a tape adapter and car charger on your own |
| 00:01:30 | Jet8810 | then no need for car mp3 player |
| 00:01:59 | Sparks | true! - i have the "Jukebox Kit" |
| 00:02:17 | Sparks | but the remote control doeant work on the FM Recorder :( |
| 00:02:18 | Jet8810 | so why not just use that? |
| 00:02:22 | Jet8810 | oh...that sucks |
| 00:02:27 | Jet8810 | but you can do the other stuff |
| 00:02:42 | Jet8810 | you can probably get away with selling the remote for 10 or maybe even $15 though |
| 00:02:47 | Jet8810 | lots of peopel want to buy the remote alone |
| 00:03:17 | Sparks | it is just the mStation is permantly installed, and i'm kinda attached to it :) |
| 00:03:18 | * | NibbIer wants the remote alone |
| 00:04:04 | Jet8810 | heh :) |
| 00:04:08 | Jet8810 | yea Nibbler, its nice |
| 00:04:22 | NibbIer | but i dont need the other stuff as i dont have a car |
| 00:04:42 | Sparks | maybe they will fix the firmware for the remote? |
| 00:05:26 | NibbIer | firmware=rockbox |
| 00:06:11 | Sparks | yea, i know :) - do you know if the remote not working is a hardware, or firmware issue? |
| 00:06:21 | NibbIer | :) |
| 00:06:39 | NibbIer | guess its hardware, but dunno |
| 00:07:13 | Sparks | i thought the same, but i read on a website somewhere that it was the firmware's fault! |
| 00:08:16 | Sparks | "Despite Archos' best efforts with firmware the Remote Control does not work with Archos Jukebox Recorder models" - from www.dukebox.com |
| 00:08:39 | Sparks | they also say "It's not a brilliant remote control at the best of times, so it makes little difference. The other components of the accessory kit, particularly the car adapters, are still worth having." |
| 00:09:45 | Sparks | is the "Archos Accessory Kit" the car kit, or is that a different thing? |
| 00:11:28 | NibbIer | i think its the same |
| 00:11:52 | NibbIer | am i right, dukebox sais a normal jbr does not work with the remote??? |
| 00:12:16 | MT | hmmph |
| 00:12:21 | Sparks | no, just the FM Recorder |
| 00:12:27 | NibbIer | ah, thought so :) |
| 00:12:32 | MT | i need to find somewhere that doesnt want to completely rip me off for a 60gb notebook hd |
| 00:12:50 | Sparks | how much have you seen them for then? |
| 00:13:09 | MT | as ive got another 300 albums to put on, and only 3gb left of my 20 :/ |
| 00:13:13 | NibbIer | 35 euro |
| 00:13:15 | MT | around £180 |
| 00:13:24 | MT | £70 euro |
| 00:13:26 | MT | er |
| 00:13:30 | MT | 270 euro |
| 00:13:41 | NibbIer | oh, ignore my "35 euro" |
| 00:13:42 | Sparks | £180 inc VAT? |
| 00:13:47 | Jet8810 | damn |
| 00:13:49 | MT | plus |
| 00:13:49 | Jet8810 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29100.html |
| 00:13:54 | MT | but thats what companies are for :) |
| 00:14:30 | MT | 'digital dictaphone' is what my jukebox went onto my tax return as ;) |
| 00:15:05 | NibbIer | :] |
| 00:15:10 | Sparks | i can get a Fujitsu MHS2060AT 60GB 2.5" 4200rpm Notebook HDD for £137.95 plus VAT |
| 00:15:54 | Sparks | Hitachi DK23EA-60 60GB 2.5" 4200rpm Notebook HDD - £139.95 |
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| 00:16:43 | Sparks | they are from www.bluepoint.net - but you need an account with them to see the prices |
| 00:16:51 | MT | ace |
| 00:16:54 | MT | they reliable? |
| 00:17:03 | Sparks | you can get the same stuff from www.redstore.com, but it is a few quid more |
| 00:17:14 | Sparks | Bluepoint are v.reliable |
| 00:17:39 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 00:17:45 | Jet8810 | those dirves are expensive |
| 00:17:51 | Sparks | if you ring them, ask to speak to Amanda - she is my account manager & seems efficiant! |
| 00:17:52 | Jet8810 | why do you need more then 20gb? |
| 00:18:07 | MT | because i have more than 20 gb of data |
| 00:18:10 | Sparks | i have 30gigs of MP3s already |
| 00:18:19 | Jet8810 | damn |
| 00:18:20 | MT | i have about 40 gb of mp3s |
| 00:18:24 | Sparks | and i only just got the archos :) |
| 00:18:31 | Jet8810 | heh |
| 00:18:42 | Jet8810 | well then its gonna cost ya |
| 00:18:42 | MT | plus i use it to shuttle movies i download at uni, to home |
| 00:18:46 | Sparks | someone has been using kazaa way too much :) |
| 00:18:48 | MT | faster than 56k \o/ |
| 00:18:52 | MT | oi! |
| 00:18:57 | MT | i have all the cd's out back |
| 00:18:58 | MT | well |
| 00:19:03 | MT | most of them |
| 00:19:08 | Sparks | lol |
| 00:19:19 | Sparks | what connection are you on? |
| 00:19:27 | MT | modem |
| 00:19:35 | Sparks | ohh, poor you :P |
| 00:19:45 | MT | heh |
| 00:19:54 | Sparks | 1 megabit Boradband is soooo nice :D |
| 00:20:04 | MT | but when i go into university, and download from friends |
| 00:20:12 | MT | i get a handy 2 MB/sec |
| 00:20:19 | MT | thats BYTES not bits ;p |
| 00:20:39 | Sparks | Bleeding hell - nice :) |
| 00:20:45 | NibbIer | :] |
| 00:21:13 | Sparks | completly OT, but do you know how i can get ident working on Linux? |
| 00:21:34 | NibbIer | start identd? |
| 00:21:41 | Sparks | i cant connect to this IRC Server with MIRC, as i have no ident server on my gateway Linux box :( |
| 00:21:51 | MT | you shouldnt need ident |
| 00:22:02 | MT | it just waits for an ident responce |
| 00:22:08 | MT | and if it doesnt get one |
| 00:22:15 | MT | after about 30s |
| 00:22:27 | NibbIer | just open port 113 |
| 00:22:27 | Sparks | it winges, and doent let me connect to irc.freenode.net |
| 00:22:29 | MT | it uses what you said to your USER command |
| 00:22:36 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 00:22:42 | Sparks | losing Link: Sparks (Invalid username [~ask.me]) |
| 00:22:49 | Jet8810 | 60gb drives going for about $185 US AFAICS |
| 00:22:50 | MT | thats because freenode is shit :) |
| 00:23:11 | Sparks | ah, what other server can i conenct to to get here! |
| 00:23:35 | MT | they had my host (and the rest of our /8) flagged as an open proxy |
| 00:23:48 | MT | because we happen to run a few irc servers on port 8080 |
| 00:24:10 | Sparks | they list looked for an open port, and didnt bother to see what was there! |
| 00:24:17 | MT | quite |
| 00:24:22 | Sparks | plonk! |
| 00:24:23 | elinenbe | bye |
| 00:24:26 | | Quit elinenbe ("I am leaving for a very important meeting") |
| 00:24:29 | MT | and then gave the kill message that we were listed in a blacklist |
| 00:24:35 | MT | which we werent ;) |
| 00:24:57 | Sparks | so can you tell me a better server i can use! |
| 00:25:15 | MT | uk.freenode.net |
| 00:25:19 | MT | or just change your ident |
| 00:25:23 | MT | er |
| 00:25:25 | MT | username |
| 00:25:30 | Sparks | ah, i got on! - i removed the . on my fake email address!!! |
| 00:25:40 | MT | ;) |
| 00:25:52 | MT | thats poor tho, dancer should accept a . |
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| 00:26:06 | __Sparks_ | :) |
| 00:26:16 | Sparks | this one is going now |
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| 00:26:29 | __Sparks_ | much better :D |
| 00:26:37 | | Nick __Sparks_ is now known as Sparks (~askme@public1-bror2-4-cust16.bror.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 00:27:11 | Sparks | i see the player shuts down faster now... |
| 00:27:54 | Sparks | ohh, it wont boot again :( - it probably thinks the battery is dead |
| 00:28:00 | MT | heh |
| 00:28:09 | MT | do you have usb2 already sparks? |
| 00:28:22 | Sparks | yea, got the card for £10 |
| 00:28:26 | MT | i didnt, and found the best price for pci card for £10 |
| 00:28:27 | MT | ! |
| 00:28:30 | MT | ebuyer? ;) |
| 00:28:33 | Sparks | yea :) |
| 00:28:42 | Sparks | couldnt belive it |
| 00:28:47 | MT | me either |
| 00:28:47 | Sparks | until it arrived! |
| 00:28:56 | MT | everywhere else was like £40-45 |
| 00:29:11 | Sparks | maybe it was a mistake! |
| 00:29:19 | MT | heh |
| 00:29:24 | MT | proper NEC chip as well ;) |
| 00:30:14 | Sparks | yea, my normal suppler was about £30 |
| 00:30:27 | Sparks | they are not down to £18.50 |
| 00:30:31 | Sparks | not ->now |
| 00:31:03 | Sparks | just tried the remote, still dead on the FM recorder :( |
| 00:31:56 | Sparks | do you have the FM Recorder? |
| 00:32:34 | MT | i do |
| 00:32:38 | Sparks | i have noticed the backlight flikering a bit when the disk is seeking & wasn't sure if that was normal |
| 00:32:46 | MT | yeah |
| 00:32:56 | Sparks | good, it isn't just mine then :) |
| 00:32:59 | MT | backlight seems to come on when there is disk activity |
| 00:33:08 | Sparks | yea, that too |
| 00:33:19 | MT | if you dont mind me asking, how much you pay for your fm? |
| 00:33:33 | Sparks | errm, hang on a sec |
| 00:33:56 | Sparks | £259.08 plus VAT |
| 00:34:06 | MT | ! |
| 00:34:09 | MT | you serious? |
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| 00:34:17 | Sparks | from www.dukebox.com - was the cheapest i coud find |
| 00:34:20 | Sparks | is that a lot!? |
| 00:34:21 | MT | rma it |
| 00:34:30 | MT | and order it form watford |
| 00:34:34 | MT | i paid £180+VAT |
| 00:34:38 | Sparks | shit! |
| 00:35:02 | MT | it was one of their janruary specials |
| 00:35:22 | Sparks | it is still £180.00 |
| 00:35:59 | Sparks | sorry, i paid 213.12 for the recorder |
| 00:36:12 | Sparks | bought some other stuff too |
| 00:36:27 | MT | hmm |
| 00:36:35 | MT | if you go to www.savastore.com |
| 00:36:41 | MT | and tap archos into the search box |
| 00:36:48 | MT | its there |
| 00:36:52 | MT | and for £180 |
| 00:36:57 | Sparks | still, over £33 cheaper from them :( |
| 00:37:09 | MT | altho it says stock TBA |
| 00:37:10 | Sparks | Avalability is TBA though |
| 00:37:14 | MT | i ordered mine |
| 00:37:14 | Sparks | :) |
| 00:37:22 | MT | and i rang up to make sure they would get it |
| 00:37:41 | MT | and they said "yeah, were jsut selling lots of them, got another 1000 coming in on wednesday" |
| 00:38:41 | Sparks | dunno if i can be arsed to send it back though - i bought it 28th December, and i think you can only send it back after 14 days for no faults |
| 00:39:17 | MT | probably was best price on 28th december ;) |
| 00:39:39 | Sparks | you'r just trying to make me feel better now ;) |
| 00:40:26 | Sparks | dod you read the warrenty on it - they try to limit it loads, but then it states "1.preclude the disclaimers and limitations in this Warranty Statement from limiting the statutory rights of a consumer (e.g., the United Kingdom); " |
| 00:40:39 | Sparks | :) |
| 00:41:20 | Sparks | dod you get any warrenty information with yours? - dukebox.com emailed it to me, as it isn't included in the package |
| 00:41:38 | Sparks | dod->did (twice) |
| 00:42:04 | MT | no, but worryingly, i had some french guys mp3's on there ;) |
| 00:42:11 | Sparks | yea, same here |
| 00:42:27 | Sparks | i think they must be freeware ones |
| 00:42:42 | MT | omg |
| 00:42:43 | Sparks | i was about to box it up, and moan! |
| 00:42:53 | MT | 20gb ipod is£449+VAT |
| 00:43:04 | MT | what a con |
| 00:43:11 | MT | you could get two archos for that ;0 |
| 00:43:20 | Sparks | cant believe they are so much - do they have radio's? |
| 00:43:25 | Sparks | and can they record? |
| 00:43:33 | MT | i dont think so |
| 00:43:35 | Sparks | and retro record? |
| 00:43:40 | Sparks | apple suckz |
| 00:43:44 | Sparks | :P |
| 00:43:45 | MT | no line in |
| 00:44:01 | MT | its tiny tho |
| 00:44:07 | Sparks | i can email you the warrenty doc if you like |
| 00:44:46 | Sparks | the Archos is just "Substantial" |
| 00:45:00 | MT | hmm |
| 00:45:06 | MT | its not that much smaller |
| 00:45:07 | MT | or lighter |
| 00:45:10 | Sparks | and no rockbox fro the ipod :) |
| 00:45:30 | Jet8810 | I have used an ipod |
| 00:45:40 | Jet8810 | imagine the archos without rubbers |
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| 00:45:44 | Jet8810 | and yet even a bit thinner |
| 00:45:54 | Sparks | i think it is just a different shape - thinner, but taller |
| 00:46:01 | Jet8810 | perhaps |
| 00:46:14 | Jet8810 | but I think it KILLS the archos as far as all the loose ends tied together |
| 00:46:45 | Sparks | but it is bloody expencive! |
| 00:47:16 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 00:47:16 | Jet8810 | heh |
| 00:47:47 | Sparks | do you want the warrenty doc MT? |
| 00:48:33 | MT | nah, i'll only end up having to use it ;) |
| 00:48:37 | Sparks | lol |
| 00:48:45 | MT | ive got it insured against accidental damage anyways |
| 00:49:31 | MT | anyone know what voltage / current i should be putting into a fm recorder? |
| 00:49:37 | Sparks | good idea, i need to do that too, and my camcorder! |
| 00:49:39 | MT | i want to get a car charger |
| 00:49:54 | MT | but i already have most of the kit |
| 00:49:59 | MT | ie tape adaptor |
| 00:50:15 | Sparks | well the mains adaptor is 6.0V @ 700mA |
| 00:50:19 | MT | so the accessory kit is out |
| 00:51:16 | Jet8810 | MT, what insurance against accidental damage do you have? |
| 00:51:26 | Sparks | just noticed the car power adaptor is 9v @500mA |
| 00:51:28 | MT | as you get crap headphones (got em), tape adaptor (got em), audio RCA connector (got em), wired remote (doesnt work) and and power adaptor |
| 00:51:51 | MT | i just did it with lloyds, added it to my home + contents |
| 00:52:08 | MT | £240 + £50 excess |
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| 00:52:21 | MT | cost me £15/yr |
| 00:53:21 | Sparks | hmm, just noticed the voltage diferance between the AC adaptor, and the car PSU - AC Adaptor is 6v, and the car one is 9 |
| 00:53:40 | Sparks | maybe that is why they say toy souldnt use that kit with the FM |
| 00:53:47 | MT | ;) |
| 00:53:56 | Sparks | unless there is a regulator inside |
| 00:53:58 | MT | i didnt think that one would work |
| 00:54:12 | MT | because the fm has different batteries completely |
| 00:54:19 | Jet8810 | well |
| 00:54:22 | Jet8810 | the car one has a switch |
| 00:54:24 | Jet8810 | you can change the voltage |
| 00:54:27 | Sparks | the car adaptor has selectable voltage, |
| 00:54:28 | MT | oh does it? |
| 00:54:35 | Jet8810 | yea |
| 00:54:43 | MT | still not paying £30 for a power adaptor :) |
| 00:54:45 | Sparks | yea, but the manual says put it on 9v |
| 00:54:54 | Jet8810 | and it is regulated |
| 00:55:00 | Jet8810 | it says regulated dc/dc adapter |
| 00:55:01 | Jet8810 | lol |
| 00:55:11 | Jet8810 | MT...here its $35 for whoel kit, shipped |
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| 00:55:22 | Sparks | regulated to 500mA |
| 00:55:41 | MT | but i already have * out of the whole kit, apart from the adaptor |
| 00:55:50 | Jet8810 | wait |
| 00:55:55 | Jet8810 | so you have everythin gexcept the car adapter? |
| 00:56:09 | MT | i have everything apart from the car power adaptor |
| 00:57:01 | Sparks | www.maplin.co.uk search for JY53H |
| 00:57:30 | Sparks | £9.99 |
| 00:58:05 | MT | hmm |
| 00:58:12 | MT | 9V @ 700mA |
| 00:58:22 | MT | or 6V @ 400 mA |
| 00:58:32 | Sparks | yea, 100mA lower :( |
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| 00:59:18 | Sparks | just looking through another catalogue :) |
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| 01:00:05 | MT | my tape adaptor has a funny story |
| 01:00:13 | MT | bought it 4-5 years ago |
| 01:00:19 | MT | to listen to cd's in the car ofc |
| 01:00:27 | MT | proper sony kit |
| 01:00:46 | Sparks | ofc? |
| 01:00:47 | MT | it cleverly has a mechanism that has a higher resistance if it plays the 'wrong' side |
| 01:00:56 | MT | ofc='of course' |
| 01:01:01 | Sparks | ah |
| 01:01:23 | MT | so that it switches back to the right side |
| 01:01:33 | MT | so you dont have to worry about what side it is on |
| 01:01:36 | MT | unfortunately that mech freezes, or tightens in the cold |
| 01:01:43 | MT | so it constantly flicks between sides |
| 01:01:51 | MT | does it on every tape deck ive ever tried |
| 01:02:05 | MT | finally got pissed off with it start of jan, when it was so cold |
| 01:02:11 | MT | cracked it open |
| 01:02:16 | MT | removed the offending article |
| 01:02:22 | MT | worked 100% since :) |
| 01:02:34 | Sparks | lol, it was too cleaver! |
| 01:02:43 | Jet8810 | lol |
| 01:03:19 | MT | http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/module.asp?CartID=030129235722981&moduleno=10480&modulecode= |
| 01:03:22 | Sparks | i remember when i got my first car, i had a portable CD player, and becuase i couldnt afford a new sterio, i bought one of the tape adaptors - trouble was, by kack sterio's reverse tape mech was buggerd, and it would only play the "wrong" side |
| 01:03:26 | MT | i NEED one of those :) |
| 01:03:31 | MT | lol |
| 01:03:53 | Sparks | so i cracked the adaptor open, and turned the head round ;) |
| 01:04:01 | Sparks | that fixed it :) |
| 01:04:09 | MT | heh |
| 01:04:35 | Sparks | then it wouldnt work in any other sterio, but that stopped people borowing it :D |
| 01:04:39 | MT | im tempted to try the backlight led mod on the archos |
| 01:04:46 | MT | as that looks good |
| 01:05:04 | Sparks | ohh, that would look gr8 in blooooo |
| 01:05:13 | MT | http://www.mctubster.com/led.html |
| 01:06:07 | Sparks | pretty major ripping apart! |
| 01:06:45 | MT | its not too 'out there' as mods go |
| 01:06:54 | Sparks | just looked at your maplin link - v.useful! |
| 01:07:05 | MT | theres someone here who has desoldered their ram chip, and replaced it with an 8 MB one |
| 01:07:11 | Sparks | i suppose - that memory upgrade looks scary |
| 01:07:15 | Sparks | :D |
| 01:07:32 | MT | same guy modified his jukebox so it has a wakeup timer too |
| 01:07:49 | Sparks | like the FM recorder already has |
| 01:07:52 | MT | which is something they should have built into the machine already |
| 01:08:07 | MT | does it? |
| 01:08:08 | MT | heh |
| 01:08:18 | Sparks | i think so...just looking |
| 01:08:36 | MT | probably wont in rockbox yet ;( |
| 01:08:57 | Sparks | no, cant see it there |
| 01:09:13 | Sparks | the backligh keeps turning off whil navigaing menu's! |
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| 01:11:37 | Sparks | just booted in "normal" mode, and it has an alarm finction :) |
| 01:12:45 | Sparks | you set a date too |
| 01:13:23 | Sparks | so i could tell it to turn on in a few months! |
| 01:14:47 | MT | does it turn itself on tho |
| 01:14:52 | MT | well |
| 01:14:54 | MT | soon find out |
| 01:15:03 | MT | alarm set for 2 minutes ;) |
| 01:17:01 | Sparks | you have set the date & time i hope :P |
| 01:18:22 | MT | set it for daily |
| 01:19:17 | MT | didnt work |
| 01:20:25 | Sparks | is the real time set on the player? |
| 01:20:56 | Sparks | jsut trying mine... |
| 01:21:09 | MT | yep |
| 01:21:21 | Sparks | mine works! |
| 01:21:52 | MT | turns the player on? |
| 01:22:02 | Sparks | after you set the alarm, i think you have to choose what track you want it to play |
| 01:22:08 | MT | oh |
| 01:22:08 | Sparks | yep, the player booted it's self |
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| 01:22:27 | Sparks | now it is shutting down again!?!?!? |
| 01:24:13 | Sparks | trying again.. |
| 01:24:29 | Sparks | booting it's self again... |
| 01:25:06 | Sparks | not playing what was playing last though - seems to have selected the playlist in the root |
| 01:25:51 | Sparks | it plays for 1 minute, then shuts off! |
| 01:26:09 | Sparks | u had any joy @MT? |
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| 01:31:04 | Sparks | u there MT? |
| 01:31:08 | | Join ErriCo_MaLaTesTa [0] (~awdyf@200.202.226.234) |
| 01:32:23 | Sparks | i found somthing you will like @MT! |
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| 01:33:41 | MT | lo |
| 01:33:44 | Sparks | ah! |
| 01:33:45 | Sparks | http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CPC+Catalogue&product%5Fid=PW0013366 |
| 01:34:08 | MT | went for smoke and coke scrummage |
| 01:34:15 | MT | had a smoke, no coke to be found :/ |
| 01:34:21 | Sparks | lol |
| 01:34:25 | MT | nice :) |
| 01:34:31 | Sparks | or.... |
| 01:34:44 | Sparks | http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CPC+Catalogue&product%5Fid=PW0040766 |
| 01:34:47 | Sparks | a 2A version |
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| 01:35:11 | Sparks | will charge faster ;) |
| 01:35:19 | MT | heh |
| 01:35:22 | Sparks | dunno if it will break it though :/ |
| 01:35:37 | Sparks | and they are fairly cheap :D |
| 01:35:39 | MT | i havent even reached the level where i run out of power with this baby yet tho :) |
| 01:35:47 | MT | and thats using it 7-10 hrs a day ;) |
| 01:36:14 | Sparks | is that just listning to a playlist, or are you playign about with it? |
| 01:37:46 | Sparks | one thing that the archos does that is not good, is it is slow when navigating the directories - the mStation indexes the whole HDD whenever somthing changes, and saves it to a file |
| 01:38:00 | Sparks | this i like |
| 01:38:21 | MT | rockbox is MUCH faster than archos |
| 01:38:36 | MT | i found archos to be very sluggish browsing |
| 01:38:43 | MT | also when changing track |
| 01:39:00 | Sparks | oh good, i will rename the file back, and play:) |
| 01:39:04 | MT | id press right three times, it would play 2 minutes of the next track, then all of sudden jump two tracks |
| 01:39:54 | Sparks | i had noticed that sometimes if you are in a playlist, then start skipping forward, it would skip forward on the display, but still be playing the previous track |
| 01:41:34 | Sparks | much much much faster now ;D |
| 01:42:55 | Sparks | i put the warantee up on a web page if u want it |
| 01:42:55 | Sparks | http://www.altphuk.co.uk/archos/ |
| 01:43:33 | Sparks | i am off now, will probably see you in here another time! |
| 01:44:43 | Sparks | See ya ;) |
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| 01:59:44 | Sparks | u still about MT? |
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| 02:01:42 | Sparks | does anyone know how to activate the keylock on the FM Recorder 20? |
| 02:02:13 | adi|work | read the docs |
| 02:06:15 | Sparks | before i put archos20030129.ajz on you held the on button |
| 02:06:23 | Sparks | that now changes the pitch! |
| 02:07:05 | adi|work | welcome to the bleeding edge :) |
| 02:07:30 | Sparks | ah, found it :) |
| 02:08:12 | adi|work | which was it? |
| 02:08:29 | Sparks | i think it would be nice if it didn't turn on the light when you press a key with th lock on (saves battery!) |
| 02:08:39 | Sparks | F1 and Down |
| 02:08:41 | adi|work | hmm.. not a bad idea |
| 02:08:54 | adi|work | but.. keylock works in the wps if i remember correctly |
| 02:08:59 | adi|work | what if i want to see the screen |
| 02:09:05 | Sparks | wps? |
| 02:09:48 | adi|work | while playing screen |
| 02:10:08 | adi|work | you on player or recorder? |
| 02:10:12 | adi|work | recorder.. |
| 02:10:14 | Sparks | FM recorder 20 |
| 02:10:18 | adi|work | okay... its f1 and down right? |
| 02:10:20 | adi|work | for keylock |
| 02:10:27 | * | adi|work just looked at the source |
| 02:10:50 | Sparks | then maybe only turn on the light when you press, say F1 and F3 when keylock is on |
| 02:11:02 | adi|work | put it in as a feature request |
| 02:11:06 | Sparks | and maybe toggle it on |
| 02:11:12 | Sparks | okay, will do |
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| 02:26:38 | Sparks | how long does it take before a request shows up? |
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| 02:30:55 | zack | hey |
| 02:31:02 | zack | ]when is 2.0 comming out? |
| 02:31:23 | zack | I heard it was supposed to come out the 2nd of this month, but I guess not |
| 02:31:26 | zack | So, when? |
| 02:31:43 | Nibbler | when it is ready |
| 02:31:56 | Nibbler | no date set |
| 02:33:04 | zack | ok |
| 02:33:24 | zack | how close are you to it, and what goals are you tying to do now? |
| 02:33:40 | zack | goals as in, what things are you tying to make for it? |
| 02:34:15 | zack | and, I also head of a calendar possibly, have you thought of it? It would be verrrry cool. |
| 02:35:24 | zack | anyone there? |
| 02:35:38 | zack | I thought this was the rockbox forum, not much activity |
| 02:35:53 | Sparks | i sublitted a request, but it hasn't shown up - is that nromal? |
| 02:36:10 | Sparks | does it take a while to show up? |
| 02:36:35 | zack | probably, since most people on hear never reply in the forum |
| 02:36:41 | Nibbler | zack: its feature freeze now |
| 02:36:46 | Nibbler | debugs get done |
| 02:36:50 | zack | ok |
| 02:36:52 | Nibbler | and when ready 2.0 is released |
| 02:37:17 | Sparks | was that to me!? |
| 02:37:21 | Nibbler | well, playlist building (recursive by directorys) will be included, should be in the 0600 build today |
| 02:37:24 | Nibbler | no |
| 02:37:27 | zack | so, you have you worked on the address thingy? |
| 02:37:33 | Nibbler | no idea Sparks |
| 02:37:42 | * | Nibbler didnt work on anything |
| 02:37:43 | zack | cool |
| 02:38:14 | zack | nibbler, you arn't are a firmware maker/builer? |
| 02:38:22 | Nibbler | nope |
| 02:38:30 | Nibbler | i just hang here to listen to those who do |
| 02:39:33 | zack | oh |
| 02:40:01 | zack | I used to do that, till I realized not many people talk on here, exspecially the developers |
| 02:40:21 | zack | that sucks though, I wish I could chat with bjorn |
| 02:41:42 | zack | hey, nibbler, have you ever put on any patches? |
| 02:42:00 | Nibbler | yep |
| 02:42:17 | Nibbler | have the CVS with the playlist-build, the sleep patch and.... what was it... |
| 02:42:25 | Nibbler | the bookmark patch |
| 02:42:29 | Nibbler | currently in use |
| 02:43:12 | zack | hey, I have downloaded everything, tried to put on the patches, I am an experienced pc user, but I can't put on any patches |
| 02:43:32 | zack | have youi ever put on the "more games for rockbox" patch? |
| 02:43:38 | Nibbler | heh yes |
| 02:43:44 | Nibbler | the "most interesting" patch |
| 02:43:50 | Nibbler | but chip8 suxx i can tell u :) |
| 02:44:17 | zack | hey, are the games good? |
| 02:44:23 | zack | I want it so badly |
| 02:44:27 | Nibbler | it suxx |
| 02:44:29 | zack | I love the mini games |
| 02:44:33 | Nibbler | but i can compile it for u if u want |
| 02:44:35 | zack | like, what suxx? |
| 02:44:36 | Nibbler | they are not playable |
| 02:44:45 | Nibbler | as key-mappings are weird |
| 02:44:47 | zack | I would love for you to compile it for me |
| 02:44:52 | zack | oh |
| 02:44:53 | Nibbler | and most of the time u dont even have the keys u would need |
| 02:45:00 | zack | but could you compile it for me? |
| 02:45:03 | Nibbler | yep |
| 02:45:05 | Nibbler | what u have? |
| 02:45:18 | zack | Could you put the chip8 patch |
| 02:45:26 | zack | on the jukebox recorder |
| 02:45:28 | zack | firmware |
| 02:45:30 | Nibbler | alrite |
| 02:45:44 | zack | and what is the safest , lateest firmware? |
| 02:45:44 | Nibbler | i'll give u my 1-week old firmware then which i compiled back then |
| 02:45:51 | zack | ok |
| 02:45:54 | Nibbler | well cant judge this |
| 02:45:58 | Nibbler | gimme your email |
| 02:46:00 | zack | hey, do you have AIM? |
| 02:46:00 | Nibbler | ill mail to u later |
| 02:46:04 | zack | ok |
| 02:46:13 | zack | it is : zackshelp@nc.rr.com |
| 02:46:15 | Nibbler | have to plug in my jbr for that |
| 02:46:19 | Nibbler | kk, ill send it over later |
| 02:46:29 | zack | Sweet, you are the greatesr |
| 02:46:34 | zack | no one would do that for me |
| 02:46:43 | zack | how long does it take to do it |
| 02:46:43 | zack | ? |
| 02:46:55 | zack | (Everyone said it took a long time) |
| 02:47:01 | zack | I was just wondering |
| 02:47:11 | zack | and tahts why they didn't do it |
| 02:47:15 | Nibbler | well, setting up the stuff took me some h as latest gcc didnt compile on my machine |
| 02:48:12 | zack | yeah, thats what I mean |
| 02:48:20 | zack | my GCC wouldn't compile |
| 02:48:26 | zack | and I have the newest |
| 02:48:28 | zack | but continue |
| 02:48:29 | Nibbler | yep |
| 02:48:38 | zack | cool |
| 02:48:38 | Nibbler | i switched back 1 version and this did compile then |
| 02:48:46 | Nibbler | then it was easy |
| 02:48:54 | zack | so, what firmware version will you put it on?> |
| 02:49:07 | Nibbler | the cvs version from 1 week ago |
| 02:49:10 | zack | Is it a bleeding edge or |
| 02:49:11 | zack | oh |
| 02:49:12 | zack | ok |
| 02:49:14 | zack | good |
| 02:49:22 | zack | as ling as it isn't a bleeding edge |
| 02:49:35 | zack | I tried it on a cvs and the original 1.4 |
| 02:49:38 | Nibbler | well |
| 02:49:49 | Nibbler | original 1.4 is "crap" compared to latest builds |
| 02:50:04 | Nibbler | and everything i have is, or was bleeding edge at some time |
| 02:50:17 | Nibbler | there was no official/stable release since 1.4 |
| 02:50:24 | zack | yeah |
| 02:50:37 | zack | I havn't downloaded the cvs since like Dec |
| 02:50:43 | zack | there hasn't been any changes |
| 02:51:01 | zack | worthwile, has there? |
| 02:51:02 | Nibbler | what? no changes? |
| 02:51:09 | Nibbler | its changes every day now |
| 02:51:18 | Nibbler | well... almost :D |
| 02:51:35 | Jet8810 | heh yea |
| 02:51:50 | Nibbler | i'll try to applie the chip8 to my version with sleep, bookmark and playlist |
| 02:51:58 | zack | way cool |
| 02:52:00 | Nibbler | if it does not fail u'll be even more up to date |
| 02:52:00 | zack | thanks |
| 02:52:24 | Nibbler | plugging in my jukebox is just as much work as this :) |
| 02:52:41 | zack | is there a "hold function" on the jukebox, so it doesn't accidentaly be pressed> |
| 02:52:51 | MT | f1+on |
| 02:52:55 | zack | ok |
| 02:52:58 | zack | cool |
| 02:53:05 | zack | been wanting that funktion |
| 02:53:14 | MT | i think |
| 02:53:51 | Sparks | nope, F1 and DOWN |
| 02:54:04 | zack | right now, I went though all of my music on lots of cd's and organized about 2.9gb of music (never thought I had that much, and it is mostly metal/rap/rock |
| 02:54:05 | zack | ) |
| 02:54:06 | MT | /o\ |
| 02:54:19 | MT | 'heh' |
| 02:54:27 | zack | and now I am transfering, but it is slow as hell |
| 02:54:34 | MT | you need usb2 |
| 02:54:47 | Sparks | www.ebuyer.com ;) |
| 02:55:25 | zack | I have the 15gb jukebox |
| 02:55:31 | zack | recorder |
| 02:55:56 | zack | I have 1.1USB and Firewire, if only it supported firewire |
| 02:56:07 | _seb_ | zack: I know how that is |
| 02:56:11 | _seb_ | it's exactly the same for me |
| 02:57:01 | zack | about 1/4 done transfering, its gonna be a long night |
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| 02:58:14 | zack | nibbler, could you give me an est on when to check my e-mail> |
| 02:58:15 | zack | ? |
| 02:58:24 | zack | You don't have to rush |
| 02:58:34 | Nibbler | im just building it |
| 02:58:36 | zack | I'm jsut excited! |
| 02:58:41 | Nibbler | u want games/demos ? |
| 02:58:48 | zack | what do you mean? |
| 02:58:50 | Nibbler | the normal rockboy ones im talking of |
| 02:58:58 | zack | Yes please |
| 02:59:01 | Nibbler | ok |
| 02:59:18 | Nibbler | language? |
| 02:59:24 | Jet8810 | whoa |
| 02:59:26 | Jet8810 | what did I miss? |
| 02:59:27 | Jet8810 | lol |
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| 03:01:54 | Nibbler | nothing much |
| 03:01:58 | Nibbler | :D |
| 03:02:05 | Nibbler | zack: mail is out |
| 03:02:33 | | Quit zack () |
| 03:02:34 | Nibbler | zack: u have to get the .ch8 files containing the games from the zip that is posted on sourceforge |
| 03:02:40 | Nibbler | oh :) |
| 03:02:45 | Nibbler | he'll find out :) |
| 03:03:13 | | Join zack [0] (~thecopes@rdu163-120-098.nc.rr.com) |
| 03:03:27 | zack | hey, I was disconnected somehow |
| 03:03:32 | zack | did anyone ask me a question? |
| 03:03:38 | zack | and I didn't answer? |
| 03:03:43 | Nibbler | [Thu-03:00:27] <Nibbler> zack: u have to get the .ch8 files containing the games from the zip that is posted on sourceforge |
| 03:03:50 | Nibbler | thats all afaik |
| 03:04:10 | zack | so, what do I need to do> |
| 03:04:11 | zack | ? |
| 03:04:21 | zack | I need to download the .ch8 files? |
| 03:04:26 | zack | ok |
| 03:04:28 | zack | will do |
| 03:04:29 | Nibbler | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=44306&atid=439120&file_id=33850&aid=628509 |
| 03:04:33 | Nibbler | in this zip they are |
| 03:04:36 | zack | like, the whole patch? |
| 03:04:41 | Nibbler | yea |
| 03:04:48 | Nibbler | but u only need the .ch8 stuff |
| 03:04:55 | Nibbler | put in anywhere on your jukebox |
| 03:04:58 | Nibbler | and play the files |
| 03:05:02 | zack | I downloaded it |
| 03:05:18 | zack | anywhere correct> |
| 03:05:20 | zack | ? |
| 03:05:29 | zack | oh, I get it |
| 03:05:31 | Nibbler | j0 |
| 03:05:34 | zack | they are the game files |
| 03:05:40 | Nibbler | ACK |
| 03:05:54 | zack | ACK? |
| 03:06:04 | Nibbler | yes, right, positive |
| 03:06:23 | zack | damn, my dukebox died, while transferring |
| 03:06:57 | zack | now I have to get the charger, and do it again |
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| 03:08:17 | zack | cool, got it |
| 03:09:02 | Nibbler | the sleep patch is said to save ~10% power.... but have not really tested it, build thisone today myself, too |
| 03:09:53 | _seb_ | dukebox! |
| 03:10:10 | _seb_ | I don't even want to know what keyboard layout you're using to make that typo :) |
| 03:11:55 | Nibbler | lol |
| 03:12:54 | zack | now testing |
| 03:12:59 | zack | lets see if it reads it |
| 03:13:31 | zack | dundadunadudunadudanu....... |
| 03:15:14 | zack | sweet |
| 03:16:41 | zack | is there a way to make the contrast stay the same, everytime you boot up a firmware? Because I always have to set it back to 30, everytime, as if it never remembers(this is before you firmware nibbler) |
| 03:16:56 | Nibbler | well |
| 03:17:09 | Nibbler | with some changes in the code the config file format has to change |
| 03:17:14 | Nibbler | making old configs invalid |
| 03:18:12 | zack | hey, where you the one, who made the chip8 patch? |
| 03:18:28 | zack | because, whoever made it, said they would make a follow up |
| 03:19:01 | Nibbler | i did not code anthing |
| 03:19:19 | zack | ok |
| 03:19:42 | zack | I meant like, whoever submitted the patch, siad they would amke a follow up |
| 03:19:57 | zack | is there any game, that was good on chip8 that you palyed? |
| 03:20:06 | zack | I am trying some now |
| 03:20:11 | | Nick Nibbler is now known as Nibbler|zZzZZZRR (~Nibbler@port-213-20-152-97.reverse.qdsl-home.de) |
| 03:20:37 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | i never had chip8 |
| 03:20:41 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | and i tested them all |
| 03:20:42 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | all suck |
| 03:20:49 | zack | o |
| 03:20:56 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | the pacman might be good but i cant figure out the controls completely |
| 03:21:08 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | and some pong-like ones are pretty ok also |
| 03:21:51 | zack | yeah, I only play the games on long trips, when playing music, and when bored of all the music I had on it |
| 03:22:05 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | 15gig is 10 days minimum |
| 03:22:07 | zack | but I always load new music on it, so i never get bored |
| 03:22:28 | zack | is there even 15gig of music |
| 03:22:29 | zack | ? |
| 03:22:33 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | im in my bed now, have fun with the chip8 stuff :) |
| 03:22:38 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | heh |
| 03:22:39 | zack | what filesharer do you use? |
| 03:22:43 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | i have 60gig here at home |
| 03:22:51 | zack | I use kazaa |
| 03:23:00 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | well, i use kazaa sometimes |
| 03:23:08 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | but for normal its ripped cds |
| 03:23:30 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | its a students house where i live, everyone rips his cds and puts them on the server |
| 03:23:48 | zack | I have a lot of cds that were given to me, but usually, I never buy cds (too expensive) |
| 03:23:50 | zack | coo |
| 03:23:51 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | or complete album downloads |
| 03:23:51 | zack | l |
| 03:24:05 | zack | what school u go to? |
| 03:24:14 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | university in munich |
| 03:24:34 | zack | germany? |
| 03:24:40 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | jo |
| 03:25:11 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | main problem about germany is that it is 03:20 am |
| 03:25:17 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | so goodnight |
| 03:25:21 | zack | ok |
| 03:25:22 | zack | see ya |
| 03:25:33 | Nibbler|zZzZZZRR | cya :) |
| 03:25:39 | zack | my mom was in germany a couple days ago, cya |
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| 04:48:59 | elinenbe | hihi |
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| 05:20:31 | ricII | shit.... 5:20 local time.. |
| 05:22:09 | ricII | but I have to get up @ 12:30. |
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| 05:29:58 | elinenbe | ricII: you are insane! have you been working on rockbox? |
| 05:30:01 | elinenbe | :) |
| 05:34:45 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:34:56 | PsycoXul | why's the uh keyboard or whatever on the player not have space, _ and - |
| 05:36:10 | PsycoXul | and such things |
| 05:36:13 | PsycoXul | numbers too i think |
| 05:36:13 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 05:36:17 | PsycoXul | am i missing something? heh |
| 05:38:29 | elinenbe | PsycoXul: I think you are missing a recorder :) |
| 05:38:35 | PsycoXul | :p |
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| 05:38:55 | adi|home | oh.. oh.. oh.. i want to switch to msn 8.. |
| 05:39:08 | adi|home | i want a pedophile in a butterfly suit to follow me around! |
| 05:39:45 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:49:09 | ricII | elinenbe ehh no, I have been working mye mail... |
| 05:49:21 | elinenbe | oh |
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| 06:28:51 | ricII | ok, who else is feeling fit to talk to me? |
| 06:29:04 | PsycoXul | heh? |
| 06:29:11 | ricII | hi |
| 06:29:16 | PsycoXul | hello |
| 06:29:48 | ricII | still awake (localtime 6:32) |
| 06:30:19 | ricII | have to be present at 12:30.. |
| 06:30:30 | PsycoXul | ah the menu button.. cool |
| 06:31:06 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:31:12 | * | PsycoXul just found the rest of the chars on the keyboard |
| 06:31:22 | ricII | :) |
| 06:31:40 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:31:42 | PsycoXul | fun |
| 06:32:25 | ricII | PsycoXul: still stuck with a player ? |
| 06:32:36 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 06:32:56 | ricII | grrr. |
| 06:34:57 | ricII | wel,l you probealy heard I'm redesinging the pl-code.. |
| 06:35:12 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:35:19 | PsycoXul | i dunno, have i? |
| 06:35:29 | PsycoXul | what you doing |
| 06:36:00 | ricII | eeh eliminating play from ram... |
| 06:36:10 | PsycoXul | ok |
| 06:36:25 | PsycoXul | thats been planned for a long time heh |
| 06:36:28 | PsycoXul | so what else |
| 06:36:38 | ricII | simplify code reducing mem usage.. |
| 06:37:02 | PsycoXul | thats always good |
| 06:37:29 | ricII | allmost got things working (sort/shuflle & resume) |
| 06:38:23 | ricII | but little time to finisch my work.. |
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| 06:41:51 | ricII | you can take a look at my work at http://ns2.denhaag.org/~ricv/playlist.c |
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| 06:46:22 | ricII | it's not ready but It put's the idea... |
| 06:51:02 | ricII | I would realy like some feedback, since I'm stealling the time from my sleep.... If you guys thinks it crap... (no hard feelings here) |
| 06:53:17 | PsycoXul | grr |
| 06:53:27 | PsycoXul | for some reason when i delete a file, it automatically like plays the next file |
| 06:53:47 | PsycoXul | so it just rolo'd old firmware and reset all my settings cause of it just now |
| 06:57:25 | ricII | PsycoXul: I don't known about y'r status/skill (things I care little about) here, but Ii would like to known if this is what you guy want. |
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| 07:01:21 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 07:01:25 | ricII | maybe I sould stop thinking I can programm / contrubute, becase I think I'm a systems analist.. |
| 07:01:39 | ricII | :(.. |
| 07:01:45 | PsycoXul | pff |
| 07:02:00 | PsycoXul | i can't program |
| 07:02:04 | PsycoXul | really |
| 07:02:08 | PsycoXul | but i've contributed patches :p |
| 07:02:26 | PsycoXul | no doubt you're better at it than i am |
| 07:02:45 | PsycoXul | which is why i can't really say how this looks heh |
| 07:04:57 | PsycoXul | my status/skill here btw is that i've contributed ideas and small patches/and little :p |
| 07:05:06 | ricII | maybe it just my cry for ack.. |
| 07:06:00 | PsycoXul | well i'm not fluent enough in C to read through that and tell whats really going on heh |
| 07:06:01 | ricII | idea I have a lot, like nethack 4 rockbox.... |
| 07:06:09 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 07:06:43 | PsycoXul | i did a little character-tile game for the player back before rockbox was rockbox |
| 07:06:51 | ricII | my C isn't fluent also.. |
| 07:06:59 | PsycoXul | i always meant to do more with it, and some people have requested i do, but i never have :p |
| 07:07:35 | PsycoXul | it was just a test to see how feasible it was to have a game like that on an 11x2 screen |
| 07:07:49 | ricII | for me C is a tool like perl, php etc. |
| 07:08:05 | PsycoXul | but it worked well enough that it might be worth somebody's effort to re-impliment the idea into a full-fledged game |
| 07:08:25 | PsycoXul | i was thinking a rogue-like type of thing too |
| 07:08:56 | PsycoXul | but i got a pda recently and i've already got nethack on it hehe |
| 07:09:03 | ricII | it would be realy great to have a game like nethack while listening to y'r mp3's.. |
| 07:09:08 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 07:09:31 | ricII | :) |
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| 07:11:36 | ricII | module loading in rockbox and stuff could give us some mem to do things (stiil have to do 8mb mod) |
| 07:11:58 | PsycoXul | heh yeah |
| 07:12:29 | * | ricII welcomes hardeep |
| 07:12:57 | PsycoXul | well i saw a little page about porting nethack to the palm that mentioned re-implimenting it to read what it needs from files instead of keeping it in the executable, for such low-memory devices |
| 07:13:15 | hardeep | hi |
| 07:13:18 | ricII | well that's a start... |
| 07:13:44 | PsycoXul | maybe it could be a generic little game engine that gets told what to do by files that you select in the browser heh |
| 07:13:53 | ricII | hardeep: unfortunaly I have to get some sleep |
| 07:13:57 | ricII | sone |
| 07:14:24 | hardeep | laugh, i considered porting nethack to rockbox... the dream lasted a whole 5 mins. =) |
| 07:14:30 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 07:14:33 | hardeep | rogue would be a lot easier |
| 07:14:53 | PsycoXul | i dunno, we've already got a keyboard :p |
| 07:15:15 | PsycoXul | thats half the battle hehe |
| 07:15:20 | hardeep | ricII: sorry, sleep is not an option |
| 07:15:22 | ricII | well it seems to run on a palm... |
| 07:15:36 | PsycoXul | does it? |
| 07:15:43 | hardeep | rogue does, yeah |
| 07:15:51 | PsycoXul | oh yeah? |
| 07:16:10 | hardeep | there's an SF project for it |
| 07:16:12 | ricII | hardeep: shit... 07:28 have to getup ~ 12:30 (localtime) |
| 07:16:24 | PsycoXul | nethack runs on my pda but it's practically a pocketpc |
| 07:17:03 | hardeep | ricII: 5 hours sleep is plenty! |
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| 07:17:23 | PsycoXul | which reminds me, i should make a package for it i guess |
| 07:17:25 | PsycoXul | ricII|sleep: night |
| 07:17:28 | ricII|sleep | yes.. but.. |
| 07:17:54 | hardeep | hmmmm, there's a nethack palm project but the last news was jan 2001 heh |
| 07:17:57 | PsycoXul | i had to get a custom bin from the people who do the wince nethack port for it to run on my particular pda... dll issues with the weird custom casio version of wince it's got |
| 07:18:27 | PsycoXul | they haven't responded to me about if they'll put that bin up on their page or not |
| 07:18:34 | PsycoXul | and i haven't seen it put up |
| 07:18:35 | ricII|sleep | hardeep take a look at http://ns2.denhaag.org/~ricv/playlist.c , dying for feedback.. |
| 07:18:50 | PsycoXul | and i know there's lots of people with these pda's who want a good rpg or whatever |
| 07:18:54 | PsycoXul | especialy a free one |
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| 07:19:25 | PsycoXul | heh anyway |
| 07:19:54 | ricII|sleep | hardeep: it just puts the idea.. |
| 07:21:24 | ricII|sleep | I will read y'r comments in the log.. good night all |
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| 08:10:45 | adi|home | howdy zagor |
| 08:10:49 | Zagor | hi |
| 08:11:08 | dwihno | Hi! |
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| 08:29:45 | Schnueff | moin |
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| 09:45:25 | quelsaruk | morning |
| 09:52:19 | quelsaruk | everyone asleep? or working? |
| 09:52:47 | Zagor | woikin |
| 09:54:36 | quelsaruk | oki doki |
| 09:54:49 | quelsaruk | Zagor: have u seen the F2 screen patch? |
| 09:56:22 | Zagor | saw the patch, haven't tried it |
| 09:57:07 | quelsaruk | it's just an option, to enable languages with long words |
| 09:57:11 | quelsaruk | like spanish :) |
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| 10:00:15 | * | langhaarrocker is sleeping @ work |
| 10:00:36 | Zagor | I think you can make it work anyway. just skip the word "mode" |
| 10:00:43 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: sleeping at work... cool!! |
| 10:01:12 | * | langhaarrocker is disturbed by boss |
| 10:01:18 | quelsaruk | sorry zagor? i have just wake up |
| 10:01:31 | quelsaruk | my neurons are not operative |
| 10:01:57 | Zagor | quelsaruk: ignore the "mode" word, that is cramped for space. just translate "shuffle", then spanish has plenty of room |
| 10:05:12 | quelsaruk | but Repetir mode: doesn't make sense :) |
| 10:05:46 | quelsaruk | or you mean to say just Repetir? |
| 10:06:05 | quelsaruk | i'm a bit stupid, and i'm asleep.. so... forgive me :) |
| 10:07:37 | Zagor | yes, just say "repetir". skip the "mode" word. |
| 10:07:51 | Zagor | I've been planning to do that in english too. |
| 10:08:24 | Zagor | "Shuffle: on/off" is just as clear as "Shuffle mode: on/off" |
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| 10:12:58 | quelsaruk | yea |
| 10:13:15 | quelsaruk | but using the "cool screen" that rockbox uses now? |
| 10:13:25 | quelsaruk | or this linear screen? |
| 10:16:05 | adi|home | Zagor.. im code policing sokoban |
| 10:16:17 | adi|home | i was/am having it read the txt file for levels |
| 10:16:26 | Zagor | quelsaruk: the current screen |
| 10:16:28 | adi|home | and realize that the code needed to be hammered a bit. |
| 10:16:38 | Zagor | adi|home: sounds good |
| 10:16:41 | adi|home | k |
| 10:16:56 | * | adi|home notes that it's a post 2.0 patch ;) |
| 10:18:00 | adi|home | Zagor i gave the quick screens some thought regarding the translations not 'fitting' the way the english does... |
| 10:18:13 | adi|home | when we are in source.. do we have anyway to know what language we are using? |
| 10:18:22 | * | adi|home wonders if that made sense. |
| 10:20:51 | quelsaruk | ummm.. sense? |
| 10:21:40 | quelsaruk | what's that |
| 10:21:58 | adi|home | hehehe |
| 10:22:14 | Zagor | adi|home: we shouldn't care |
| 10:23:34 | adi|home | okay.. then nevermind :) |
| 10:24:45 | quelsaruk | zagor, then we could have something like " Resume (next line) << (next line) on/off " |
| 10:26:00 | Zagor | quelsaruk: yes |
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| 10:26:19 | quelsaruk | may i do another patch then? |
| 10:26:32 | quelsaruk | or *big boss* will do it? :P |
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| 10:28:07 | quelsaruk | anyway.. i will find another word fof "scroll bar" |
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| 10:28:44 | quelsaruk | re zagor |
| 10:34:30 | quelsaruk | did u read my last line? |
| 10:38:08 | webmind | morning |
| 10:38:56 | Zagor_ | quelsaruk: yes. did you see my question? |
| 10:38:58 | Zagor_ | why? you can do it already |
| 10:39:00 | Zagor_ | just have an empty "mode" string |
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| 10:39:19 | quelsaruk | ahh |
| 10:39:22 | quelsaruk | yes |
| 10:39:25 | quelsaruk | that's true |
| 10:39:27 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 10:39:30 | quelsaruk | missa torpe |
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| 11:55:04 | kargatis | Zagor, re: the genre file, you think Winamp is just being flexible in its reading of the tag (since it gets it right)? |
| 11:55:50 | kargatis | anyone else using EAC + LAME here? Evidently it's not producing ID3 genre tags in a robust manner |
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| 12:12:48 | Zagor | kargatis: yes, winamp is very forgiving |
| 12:13:06 | Zagor | maybe we should too, but that's a feature request :-) |
| 12:13:10 | kargatis | searching the lame forum for clues |
| 12:14:19 | kargatis | it might be that eac writes the header, and LAME overwrites the id3 data... |
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| 12:17:35 | Zagor | kargatis: could be |
| 12:17:58 | Zagor | but the header says EAC, so I think it does all the writing |
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| 12:18:35 | kargatis | http://www.digital-inn.de/showthread.php?s=df472bb5805567d61e43ca1381d44245&threadid=13536&highlight=id3+genre |
| 12:18:39 | kargatis | was looking at that |
| 12:18:50 | kargatis | "LAME replaces EAC text information by the number representation... Ask LAME developers..." |
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| 12:20:41 | Zagor | that is not a problem. lame is doing the right thing. |
| 12:20:54 | Zagor | (#) is the correct format for id3v2.3 |
| 12:21:27 | kargatis | so before i post there, TCON is 2.4, and what isright for 2.3? |
| 12:21:52 | Zagor | TCON is available for both, but 2.3 says to use numeric values while 2.4 allows text |
| 12:22:18 | Zagor | both specs are available on the Documentation page |
| 12:22:40 | kargatis | so the problem is that for that file, TCON is text instead of #? |
| 12:22:49 | Zagor | yes |
| 12:23:11 | kargatis | ah, so lame is *not* replacing it |
| 12:23:18 | kargatis | and eac is writing text |
| 12:24:04 | Zagor | lame only writes tags if you explicitly tells it to |
| 12:24:50 | kargatis | how do i look at headers? don't know what i need. |
| 12:25:01 | kargatis | i'd like to experiment, see if i can get it working |
| 12:25:03 | Zagor | just use a hex editor |
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| 12:26:34 | quelsaruk | kargatis: i use EAC |
| 12:26:50 | kargatis | have you tried %ig in your wps? |
| 12:27:00 | quelsaruk | not really |
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| 12:27:35 | quel|out | i have a really terrible morning. cu later |
| 12:28:06 | kargatis | "not really" - quel|out has "sorta" tried it. :) |
| 12:29:50 | quel|out | kargatis.. i made once a WPS and haven't got time to think another one :) |
| 12:31:12 | kargatis | Zagor, ok, looking at file, i see that TCON is text. how is the v1 genre stored? that's at the end of the file, right? |
| 12:32:01 | Zagor | v1 is at end of file, yes. but v1 is not the issue here |
| 12:32:21 | Zagor | kargatis: your badheader.mp3 really confuses rockbox... |
| 12:32:28 | kargatis | i know, just wanted to see the genre in the file for v1, since it has both. |
| 12:33:06 | kargatis | is it a lefit feature request to have %ig default to the specified text if it's not a #? |
| 12:33:11 | kargatis | legit |
| 12:33:48 | Zagor | sure, it's a legit request. |
| 12:34:19 | Zagor | but the request is more "Attempt to parse incorrect id3 data" |
| 12:34:35 | kargatis | granted |
| 12:35:04 | kargatis | but it's potentially a widespread problem for EAC users |
| 12:35:13 | Zagor | yes, could be |
| 12:35:20 | kargatis | which would include most conscientious windows users |
| 12:35:46 | Zagor | we should still point out this bug to the eac developers |
| 12:36:35 | Zagor | maybe that's why I never see id3v2.4 tags anywhere... |
| 12:36:52 | kargatis | EAC gives the option of 2.3 vs 2.4 |
| 12:36:56 | kargatis | i have 2.3 checked |
| 12:37:12 | Zagor | ok, so the bug is the TCON tag, not the header |
| 12:38:13 | kargatis | right |
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| 12:40:55 | kargatis | will look into it on the EAC side, thx for the help |
| 12:41:25 | kargatis | and, just to warn, given my many many files that have this problem, i'll probably submit the 'flexibility' feature request. :) |
| 12:41:38 | kargatis | though i won't hold my breath |
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| 12:55:20 | Zagor | that badheader.mp3 is really evil |
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| 13:18:50 | Zagor | kargatis: what created the badHeader.mp3 file? it claims to contain 0 mp3 frames... |
| 13:20:04 | kargatis | back |
| 13:20:09 | kargatis | ok, let me orientate... |
| 13:20:24 | kargatis | ah, ok, bad header file... |
| 13:20:29 | kargatis | um, honestly, i can't remember |
| 13:20:37 | Zagor | it's broken bad |
| 13:20:40 | kargatis | it was in some transitory ripping/encoding situation |
| 13:21:00 | kargatis | it might have been an old audiocatalyst, before i was using eca/lame |
| 13:21:27 | kargatis | or maybe an earlier lame, where i was unfamiliar with standard options |
| 13:21:49 | kargatis | wish i could tell you more - it's like a 1-2 month ripping window, i have a few albums that are like that |
| 13:21:59 | kargatis | i thought it was just a missing vbr header or something |
| 13:23:32 | Zagor | no it's there alright. it's just FUBAR |
| 13:23:35 | kargatis | winamp plays them fine, but can't figure out the running times |
| 13:23:49 | Zagor | yeah, I don't blame them... :-) |
| 13:24:05 | Zagor | we play it too. we just have no clue how fast it's playing so we don't know when to start reloading. |
| 13:24:38 | kargatis | well, if they're completely nonstandard shit files, invalidate it. should rerip them anyway. or maybe just do vbrfix on them? |
| 13:24:54 | kargatis | ah, that explains the buffer-read problem then |
| 13:24:55 | Zagor | try vbrfix. it could work. |
| 13:25:29 | Zagor | unfortunately, just saying "bad file, we don't care" doesn't help. we'll get that bug reported again and again until we work around the bad files. |
| 13:26:46 | Zagor | this is the "silent play" bug. |
| 13:26:50 | kargatis | so is it that you don't know how much data you've played at a given point, so don't know when the buffer's low? |
| 13:26:58 | kargatis | hm, you think it's the same? |
| 13:27:21 | kargatis | i thought the silent play bug (mine, at least) was on a bad read, after jostling. |
| 13:27:41 | Zagor | we know how much data we've played, but the watermark is calculated using the bitrate. no bitrate no watermark |
| 13:27:57 | kargatis | and that you fixed some problematic code - i know i saw much less silent playing afterwards |
| 13:28:08 | Zagor | ok. well this is silent play too :-) |
| 13:28:09 | kargatis | perhaps that's why i finally noticed these files... |
| 13:33:29 | kargatis | man, my install of vbrfix is really screwy |
| 13:33:50 | kargatis | keeps complaining the host dir doesn't exist, can't change options, or overwrite files. :-P |
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| 13:43:10 | kargatis | splitsville |
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| 13:44:54 | gizz | hi all |
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| 13:45:45 | gizz | anybody alive out there ? |
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| 14:11:08 | kargatis | still split, hm |
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| 14:52:20 | kargatis | unsplitsville, finally |
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| 15:00:25 | langhaarrocker | I'm convinced that these netsplits are provoked by somebody who wants to write dirty words without being logged by logbot. |
| 15:01:43 | Hes | arse, i got caught |
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| 15:25:36 | * | matsl is away: I'm busy |
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| 15:46:40 | Bagder | hey |
| 15:48:04 | dwihno | ho |
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| 16:23:18 | | Nick quel|lunch is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 16:23:23 | quelsaruk | hi again |
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| 16:28:11 | Bagder | is the linux 'mount' in the fileutils package? |
| 16:28:44 | | Nick edx is now known as [ABC]edx (edx@pD9EAB91B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:28:45 | Schnueff | in debian its in the mount package |
| 16:29:11 | Schnueff | which comes from util-linux |
| 16:29:20 | Bagder | ok, thanks |
| 16:29:26 | | Nick [ABC]edx is now known as [abc^-edx-] (edx@pD9EAB91B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:29:38 | | Nick [abc^-edx-] is now known as [ABC]edx (edx@pD9EAB91B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:29:50 | Bagder | learning new letters edx? ;-) |
| 16:30:09 | [ABC]edx | more related to another channel ;) |
| 16:30:28 | Bagder | oh, many channels he joins |
| 16:30:43 | [ABC]edx | heh.. |
| 16:30:44 | [ABC]edx | btw.. |
| 16:30:51 | [ABC]edx | i made the win32 sim compile |
| 16:30:58 | [ABC]edx | but: |
| 16:31:10 | quelsaruk | really? |
| 16:31:16 | [ABC]edx | the peakmeter - is it supposed to work - and the recording? |
| 16:31:28 | Bagder | uh, never tried them in the sim ;-) |
| 16:31:39 | [ABC]edx | they dont even compile, i mean |
| 16:32:04 | Bagder | maybe they're not included in the sim build for x |
| 16:32:20 | [ABC]edx | i excludet them to get win32 sim to work |
| 16:34:16 | | Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|coffee (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
| 16:34:30 | quel|coffee | cu later |
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| 16:36:47 | elinenbe|sleep | Bagder: morning |
| 16:36:52 | | Nick elinenbe|sleep is now known as leinenbe (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 16:36:52 | [ABC]edx | Bagder: argh! |
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| 16:37:01 | [ABC]edx | whats that now: |
| 16:37:03 | [ABC]edx | ../../apps\main_menu.c(264) : error C2065: 'LANG_CREATE_PLAYLIST' : undeclared i |
| 16:37:58 | [ABC]edx | looks like the lang generation messed up? uhm... |
| 16:38:21 | Bagder | yes it does look like that |
| 16:38:58 | [ABC]edx | (clean doesnt delete lang.c and lang.h files) |
| 16:39:10 | [ABC]edx | much better now ;) |
| 16:39:16 | Bagder | goodie |
| 16:39:25 | [ABC]edx | ah |
| 16:39:35 | [ABC]edx | now i remember a question i wanted to ask |
| 16:40:02 | [ABC]edx | in peakmeter.c - can i change inline to __inline? inline is not recognized by my win32 compiler... is it standard or what's it for? |
| 16:40:34 | Bagder | I think 'inline' is the C99 style |
| 16:40:51 | Bagder | I suggest you don't use inline at all in the sim |
| 16:41:06 | Bagder | #ifdef SIMULATOR \ #define inline \ #endif |
| 16:41:09 | quel|coffee | bagder... |
| 16:41:14 | [ABC]edx | where shall i put that? |
| 16:41:23 | quel|coffee | just one of my stupid questions... |
| 16:41:27 | [ABC]edx | so that peakmeter uses it |
| 16:41:54 | Bagder | edx: put it in peakmeter.c, it is the only one using inline |
| 16:41:59 | Bagder | quel|coffee: yes? |
| 16:42:07 | quel|coffee | if the id3 screen says that a song has a title... |
| 16:42:20 | [ABC]edx | ok |
| 16:42:45 | quel|coffee | then %it should show that title, or not? |
| 16:43:25 | Bagder | I don't know the tags off the top of my head |
| 16:43:42 | quel|coffee | %it is song title |
| 16:43:44 | quel|coffee | :) |
| 16:43:47 | quel|coffee | sorry |
| 16:43:55 | quel|coffee | today is not a good day for me |
| 16:44:39 | quel|coffee | i have a line like %?%it<%it|%d1> |
| 16:44:56 | quel|coffee | umm |
| 16:45:00 | quel|coffee | not that |
| 16:45:01 | [ABC]edx | Bagder: you know a parameter to ignore standard include files? |
| 16:45:01 | quel|coffee | sorry |
| 16:45:14 | Bagder | edx: nope |
| 16:45:21 | [ABC]edx | Bagder: otherwise you get an error compilingthe simluator the first time - if you retry you wont get the error (??!) |
| 16:45:49 | quel|coffee | i have a line like %?%it<%it|%fn> ( %it is file title, %fn is file name without extension) |
| 16:46:11 | [ABC]edx | C2375: 'win32_rename' : redefinition; different linkage |
| 16:46:12 | quel|coffee | so if a song hasn't got title, it shows the file name, no? |
| 16:46:15 | [ABC]edx | blah |
| 16:48:20 | quel|coffee | my question is... if the id3 screen shows a title, that means that %it (song title) must have a value and the conditional displays the %it value... or not? |
| 16:48:48 | Bagder | I'd say it sounds reasonable |
| 16:49:05 | quel|coffee | well... |
| 16:49:16 | quel|coffee | my jukebox needs another exorcism then |
| 16:51:28 | Bagder | time for sporting |
| 16:51:31 | Bagder | see ya |
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| 16:51:49 | quel|coffee | ouch |
| 16:52:31 | quel|coffee | now i'm really going to have a coffee |
| 16:57:25 | matsl | cu |
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| 17:03:55 | elinenbe | someone check out my fade patch :) |
| 17:05:01 | kargatis | ? you fade out every track? |
| 17:07:28 | elinenbe | kargatis: no, just when you pause/unpause or stop |
| 17:07:40 | elinenbe | it works like winamp under windows |
| 17:08:40 | kargatis | ah |
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| 18:14:57 | quel|coffee | ouch |
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| 19:12:30 | Kg- | hi guy |
| 19:12:38 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 19:13:08 | Kg- | huhu i have buy archos multimedia 20 Go last saturday |
| 19:13:18 | Kg- | and i hate this fucking firmware ... |
| 19:13:35 | quelsaruk | which? |
| 19:13:36 | Kg- | Does Rockbox work with it , |
| 19:14:18 | quelsaruk | multimedia? |
| 19:14:22 | quelsaruk | not now |
| 19:14:23 | Kg- | which what ? ( sorry for my english i am french ) |
| 19:14:29 | Kg- | yes multimedia |
| 19:14:30 | Kg- | :'( |
| 19:14:35 | Kg- | shit |
| 19:14:42 | Kg- | soon ;) ? |
| 19:14:43 | quelsaruk | just recorder and player |
| 19:15:09 | Kg- | :(( |
| 19:15:44 | kargatis | definitely not anytime soon |
| 19:15:48 | kargatis | completely different hardware |
| 19:16:09 | Kg- | ahhh |
| 19:16:48 | quelsaruk | Kg-: do you have programing skills? |
| 19:17:23 | quelsaruk | i mean, maybe you could start rockbox development for the multimedia and use the existing code that work on the MM |
| 19:17:39 | quelsaruk | just an idea |
| 19:17:59 | quelsaruk | also you can wait until someone buys one... and start development :) |
| 19:18:50 | Kg- | lol |
| 19:19:12 | Kg- | i script a bit lol just for nwn |
| 19:19:18 | Kg- | :)) |
| 19:19:49 | Kg- | why archos make shit firmware ? without game and cool stuff ;) ? |
| 19:19:51 | quelsaruk | neverwinter nights :) |
| 19:19:57 | Kg- | yeah |
| 19:20:12 | quelsaruk | Kg-: that's a mistery :) |
| 19:20:34 | quelsaruk | why they don't give technical info to developers?? |
| 19:20:44 | Kg- | and i want video cable |
| 19:20:52 | quelsaruk | why winter is so cold? |
| 19:20:58 | Kg- | lol |
| 19:21:30 | Kg- | why capitalistic society want to destroy GNU siprit ? |
| 19:28:26 | quelsaruk | ouch |
| 19:28:34 | kargatis | pshaw! :) |
| 19:28:35 | quelsaruk | where's edx when we need him? |
| 19:29:20 | kargatis | in a free market, some people want to make money, others want to share. perfectly normal human interaction. |
| 19:29:31 | kargatis | there, will that suffice for edx? :) |
| 19:29:51 | quelsaruk | you have dried my last neuron |
| 19:29:56 | quelsaruk | *fried |
| 19:30:02 | quelsaruk | are you happy? |
| 19:30:04 | quelsaruk | :) |
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| 19:37:08 | Kg- | ya |
| 19:41:27 | quelsaruk | bbl! |
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| 19:48:18 | sime | hi guys |
| 19:48:54 | sime | anyone there? |
| 19:51:27 | sime | i copied all the .zip file in my jukebox 20 root dir and reboot.. with sitll the same firmware...do i haave to do somthing else? |
| 19:58:45 | sime | ok nevermind.. letting the jukebox on charge dont reboot it |
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| 20:00:17 | Kg- | multimedia jukebox ? |
| 20:01:24 | sime | studio 20 |
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| 20:02:27 | sime | what a great job you did.. |
| 20:02:34 | sime | thats cool |
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| 20:18:02 | sime | ohw do i create a playlit? |
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| 20:29:35 | adi|work | you hook your player up to your pc and build your playlist |
| 20:29:39 | * | adi|work shrugs |
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| 20:45:04 | * | adi|work is away: coding |
| 20:47:01 | Josh_ | whoa...The Glass House is an amazing movie...just saw it |
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| 21:43:59 | quelsaruk | must go |
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| 22:48:37 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 22:48:54 | Jet8810 | does an FM transimittor get better or worse sound quality compared to the cassette adapters? |
| 22:53:18 | adi|work | huh? |
| 22:55:08 | Jet8810 | ok |
| 22:55:37 | Jet8810 | one plugs into ear jack and allows for say, a car stereo to turn to FM dial 87.7 say, the other goes into ear jack and allows for a tape deck player to plaly from audio source (sells with archos car kit) |
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| 23:00:29 | adi|work | no idea.. |
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| 23:53:07 | brujo | hi |
| 23:54:00 | brujo | any idea when the battery problem of the fm recorder gets fixed? |
| 23:55:45 | hardeep | when someone with an fm recorder debugs the problem |
| 23:56:58 | | Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") |
| 23:57:02 | brujo | hmm i can't |
| 23:58:56 | | Quit brujo (".gone.") |
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