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01:34:14 | zack | hi all, I was wondering if anyone has patched the "calender" patch on a firmware for the recorder, and i was wondering how it is? |
01:34:49 | zack | Also, I would like to test it, but I have no clue at all on how to patch or do any thing like "code" |
01:35:10 | zack | so, I was wondering if soeone could send me a patched firmware with the calendar on it? |
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01:35:16 | zack | Does anyone know how to do that? |
01:35:20 | zack | Thanks- Zack |
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01:45:42 | zack | not to rush anyone, but is anyone there? |
01:46:08 | Jet8810 | yea |
01:46:11 | Jet8810 | do you want to buy my 64mb thumb drive for $25 shipped? |
01:46:12 | Jet8810 | :) |
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04:53:59 | thu | hello |
04:54:10 | thu | anyone around? |
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05:05:45 | adi|home | i am |
05:05:47 | adi|home | whats up? |
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05:09:29 | thu | how can I format my archos? |
05:09:49 | thu | root@dusty / # mkfs.vfat /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 |
05:09:49 | thu | mkfs.vfat 2.8 (28 Feb 2001) |
05:09:49 | thu | mkfs.vfat: Attempting to create a too large file system |
05:10:08 | thu | also.. does rockbox work on FM recorders yet? |
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05:12:55 | MT | thu: sort of |
05:13:03 | MT | 'work in progress' |
05:13:09 | MT | how big is the drive? |
05:13:38 | thu | 20 gigs |
05:13:55 | MT | hmm |
05:13:56 | thu | I guess I won't try rockbox yet |
05:14:01 | thu | but I still wanna format the disk |
05:17:36 | thu | is there a version of rockbox that at least boots the FM recorder? |
05:17:43 | MT | oh yes |
05:17:54 | MT | it works fine |
05:18:05 | thu | which ver? |
05:18:08 | MT | you cna play music, record etc |
05:18:09 | MT | cvs |
05:18:12 | MT | but |
05:18:19 | thu | 1.4-recorder wouldn't boot |
05:18:19 | MT | there are some issues with the battery |
05:18:26 | MT | and some issues with the backlight |
05:18:29 | thu | "issues"? |
05:18:32 | MT | 1.4 is a long time ago :) |
05:18:48 | MT | im talking about the bleeding edge stuff |
05:19:02 | thu | cool |
05:19:07 | thu | I might just give it a try |
05:19:09 | thu | in the mean time.. |
05:19:22 | thu | any info on the partitioning of the disk in FMs? |
05:19:45 | thu | mine has a pretty wacky partition table |
05:19:56 | MT | yes, no-one can work out where to read the battery voltage from reliabley, and it has greatly reduced battery life |
05:20:07 | MT | the backlight only comes on when the hd spins |
05:20:20 | thu | did anyone try asking the archos guys for details? |
05:20:34 | thu | maybe they appreciate the whole rockbox effort |
05:20:56 | thu | after all.. it's providing a nicer firmware at no cost to them |
05:20:57 | MT | well they bundle rockbox with their latest recorder driver cd |
05:21:16 | thu | did anyone try contacting them for details? |
05:21:30 | MT | i dont know |
05:22:49 | thu | heh.. fsck.vfat gives me a bunch of errs |
05:23:01 | thu | like duplicate dir entries and stuff |
05:23:10 | thu | how do I create a fresh file system? |
05:24:21 | MT | can you fdisk it |
05:24:36 | thu | yeah but it looks messy and it doesn't help |
05:24:39 | thu | I just tried formatting it |
05:24:42 | MT | fdisk /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 |
05:24:46 | MT | delete all the partitions |
05:24:57 | MT | create a single one |
05:25:02 | thu | I just did a mkfs.vfat on part1 |
05:25:08 | thu | I didn't touch the partition table |
05:25:11 | MT | btw you shouldnt need to do this |
05:25:13 | thu | it might not like the changes |
05:25:24 | MT | you just said that didnt work tho |
05:25:39 | MT | why do you really need to format it btw? |
05:25:42 | thu | mkfs.vfat defaults to fat16 |
05:25:52 | thu | mkfs.vfat -F 32 did work |
05:26:00 | thu | the file system was screwed |
05:26:05 | thu | like duplicate dir entries and stuff |
05:26:08 | thu | corrupt files |
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05:30:32 | MT | aha |
05:30:50 | MT | ive never made a vfat partition from linux, didnt think it would default to fat16 :) |
05:31:41 | thu | me neither |
05:32:15 | * | thu is filling up his drive with stuff |
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07:28:37 | Zagor | yeah |
07:30:02 | dwihno | YAY FOR Z! |
07:30:16 | * | dwihno forgot to leave a birthday gratulation message to Linus :-( |
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07:45:17 | Topic | "feature freeze -- 2.0 soon -- and a happy belated birthday to Linus!" by adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-108.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
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07:46:04 | adi|home | mcuh better |
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08:54:48 | MeRWiN | *yawn* |
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09:42:42 | calpefrosch | morning |
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10:04:35 | quelsaruk | goooood morning! |
10:06:13 | blabla | hi |
10:08:14 | blabla | does anyonye know a good tool to sync my archos with a folder on my pc ? |
10:10:05 | quelsaruk | umm |
10:10:13 | quelsaruk | there was one made by uwe |
10:10:29 | quelsaruk | but i can't remember his website :( |
10:10:59 | quelsaruk | http://www.uwe-freese.de/download/ABSync.rar |
10:11:06 | quelsaruk | http://www.uwe-freese.de/absync/ABSync/ABSync.html |
10:11:21 | quelsaruk | english doc and program |
10:11:34 | quelsaruk | :) |
10:11:49 | quelsaruk | i haven't tested but seemed good |
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10:52:56 | quelsaruk | Zagor: do you need a seat belt to stay here today? |
10:55:05 | Zagor | yeah, apparently. the silly web proxy at work keeps going up and down. |
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11:26:26 | Zagor_ | yeah, apparently. the silly web proxy at work keeps going up and down. |
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11:26:35 | Zagor | well, let's see how long this lasts... |
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11:44:23 | xam | yaaaawn |
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12:04:49 | quel|out | zagor |
12:05:02 | quel|out | i'm a "pesado", but.. did you try that mp3 ? |
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12:20:23 | quelsaruk | hi calpefrosch |
12:29:08 | kargatron | Zagor, the EAC coder's response to the 2.3 TCON-writing issue: http://www.digital-inn.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13536 |
12:29:25 | kargatron | '"can" means : can, not must...' |
12:29:49 | kargatron | oh well, don't think he'll be changing the 2.3 writing code for this. |
12:30:30 | Zagor | kargatron: i'll take it from here :-) (hint: he's wrong) |
12:31:04 | kargatron | go for it! ;) |
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12:50:52 | calpefrosch | oh, hi quelsaruk |
12:51:07 | quelsaruk | jajaja |
12:51:15 | quelsaruk | you need glasses |
12:51:16 | quelsaruk | :) |
12:52:14 | calpefrosch | yes, I *have* glasses. But I was working and not reading.. sorry |
12:52:26 | quelsaruk | :) |
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13:09:14 | Zagor | kargatron: reply posted |
13:10:36 | kargatron | groovy, let's see what happens. i too though 'numeric string' was unambiguous. :) |
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13:18:55 | quelsaruk | re-hi |
13:21:06 | dwihno | quelsaruk! |
13:21:13 | dwihno | bueno! |
13:21:28 | quelsaruk | una hamburgesa dwihno? |
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13:22:26 | dwihno | Non, une cerveza grande, por favor :) |
13:22:38 | quelsaruk | ;) |
13:22:57 | quelsaruk | i see you know you to survive in spain |
13:22:58 | quelsaruk | :) |
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13:37:05 | elinenbe | is the 2.0 release coming out this week? |
13:37:25 | Zagor | not likely |
13:37:41 | elinenbe | what is left to be looked at? |
13:37:45 | Zagor | we still have some bugs, and linus has a major recording fix coming up |
13:38:07 | elinenbe | nice... |
13:38:16 | Zagor | I was hoping to get it sooner, but I can't blame him for not having time... |
13:38:47 | elinenbe | I found a bug, but I think this refers to it "fix id3 loading so mpeg.c loads file and passes buffers to id3.c" |
13:39:11 | elinenbe | when I plan a song, in the wps it first shows the wrong information as if it is not in the mp3 |
13:39:20 | elinenbe | and then finally the ID# info comes up after a second. |
13:39:30 | elinenbe | s/ID#/ID3 |
13:39:52 | Zagor | this only happens when you press play on the song, right? not when it's being played after another track? |
13:40:00 | elinenbe | I am not sure. |
13:40:11 | elinenbe | I have only noticed it when I press plat |
13:40:40 | elinenbe | but is is annoying to see (root) (root) and then the song artist and name pop up |
13:40:53 | elinenbe | this is with the "new" default 2.0 wps |
13:41:02 | Zagor | yes. i guess that file contains an album cover graphic, right? |
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13:41:25 | elinenbe | Zagor: I am not sure... hold on... |
13:41:42 | clinker | zagor: which was the website with the archos 340?? |
13:41:54 | clinker | (quelsaruk) |
13:42:08 | Zagor | clinker: check the irc log. I don't have it here. |
13:42:18 | dwihno | archos 340? |
13:42:22 | clinker | at the website? |
13:42:24 | clinker | ok |
13:42:24 | Zagor | yes |
13:42:25 | clinker | thx |
13:42:32 | clinker | cu l8r |
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13:45:33 | Zagor | dwihno: something they demoed at CES. a multimedia with a screen covering the entire front, basically |
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13:49:23 | dwihno | Zagor: Ah, pretty neato. |
13:49:42 | dwihno | I wonder how long the multimedia batteries last. |
13:50:00 | Zagor | I've read they have major battery problems with the MM. |
13:50:19 | Zagor | it's supposed to last 6-8 hours playing mp3, but few get that much |
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13:51:57 | dwihno | whoa |
13:52:10 | dwihno | Is it possible to replace the FM battery btw? |
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13:52:37 | Zagor | technically yes, but it's not possible to by them |
13:52:39 | Zagor | buy them |
13:53:02 | quelsaruk | i'm back here |
13:53:02 | darkhanzz | question: how can i get windows to use a standard usb driver for my archos ? |
13:53:03 | quelsaruk | :) |
13:53:46 | Zagor | darkhanzz: which archos model? |
13:54:06 | darkhanzz | the studio 20 |
13:54:45 | darkhanzz | i've heard it is possible, but windows 2000 doesn't seem to recognize it without the special archos drivers |
13:54:55 | Zagor | the studio is not a standard usb device so it needs special drivers |
13:54:59 | darkhanzz | ok |
13:55:03 | Zagor | only the recorder20 is a standard usb devices |
13:55:08 | darkhanzz | ok |
13:55:09 | darkhanzz | thanks |
13:55:13 | Zagor | you're welcome |
13:55:49 | elinenbe | Zagor: about the ID3 tags −− most of them do not have pictures. |
13:56:20 | quelsaruk | Zagor: an off-topic question... until what hour does a normal company work there in sweden? i have to phone and don't know until when i can phone them :) |
13:56:30 | Zagor | elinenbe: ok. can you file a bug and make an example file available? |
13:56:42 | Zagor | quelsaruk: 17 or 18 |
13:56:46 | quelsaruk | thx :) |
13:57:07 | Zagor | quelsaruk: you're at CET too, right? |
13:57:28 | Zagor | or do you guys run on GMT? |
13:57:38 | Zagor | (time zone) |
13:58:17 | darkhanzz | sweden is gmt + 1 i think |
13:58:20 | darkhanzz | that's CET |
13:58:21 | quelsaruk | GMT |
13:58:35 | quelsaruk | now i have 14:01 |
13:58:46 | quelsaruk | we are in the same parallel |
13:58:50 | quelsaruk | so it doesnt' matter |
13:59:07 | Zagor | :-) |
13:59:17 | quelsaruk | (i had to study astronomy.. and now all different times) |
13:59:36 | quelsaruk | sidereal time.. local time... universal time... |
13:59:37 | * | Zagor screams in the void at people using non-standard crc16 |
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14:00:19 | kargatron | quelsaruk, do you mean you *are* studying astronomy, or just did at some point in the past? |
14:00:53 | quelsaruk | umm... in theory, i have to study it this year.. but studied it last :) |
14:02:14 | kargatron | just curious. i got my phd in space physics & astronomy, so was idly wondering |
14:02:47 | quelsaruk | well.. |
14:02:56 | quelsaruk | i'm *nearly* a civil ingenier |
14:03:12 | quelsaruk | i don't really understand why do i need all this astrology stuff... |
14:03:19 | quelsaruk | nowadays we have gps :) |
14:03:29 | quelsaruk | if i had to make a road using the stars.... |
14:03:37 | quelsaruk | poor of all you :) |
14:03:53 | kargatron | ouch, you'll get strung up saying 'astrology' when you mean 'astronomy' in scientific circles. :) |
14:04:01 | quelsaruk | sorry |
14:04:08 | quelsaruk | astronomy |
14:04:17 | quelsaruk | i'm a bit sleep |
14:04:18 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:04:31 | quelsaruk | i wanted to say astronomy |
14:04:33 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:04:54 | quelsaruk | [14:01:53] <quelsaruk> (i had to study astronomy.. and now all different times) <−−−− i first said astronomy |
14:06:17 | dwihno | Muy bien |
14:06:22 | dwihno | Buenos noches capitan! |
14:06:33 | dwihno | Milli diavolo! Est une Zorro! |
14:07:17 | quelsaruk | that's italian |
14:07:18 | quelsaruk | :P |
14:08:46 | dwihno | Shit same, different name :-) |
14:08:52 | quelsaruk | :) |
14:09:07 | quelsaruk | ha det sa bra, dwihno? (or similar) |
14:14:37 | * | quelsaruk thinks he has said something *very* bad to dwihno |
14:15:54 | dwihno | :-) |
14:15:59 | dwihno | bra = good |
14:16:24 | quelsaruk | i tried to say something like "how are you" |
14:16:29 | quelsaruk | o are you ok? |
14:16:31 | quelsaruk | but... |
14:16:55 | dwihno | ha det så bra = have a good time (quasi translation) |
14:16:55 | quelsaruk | my swedish is even worst than my english |
14:17:16 | quelsaruk | ajam... |
14:17:20 | dwihno | ayam brand |
14:17:25 | quelsaruk | so how are you is... |
14:17:26 | dwihno | That means "chicken brand" |
14:21:32 | quelsaruk | elinenbe: are you here? |
14:22:29 | quelsaruk | time to go home |
14:22:37 | quelsaruk | nick quel|lunch |
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14:22:44 | quel|lunch | :) |
14:22:58 | quel|lunch | i must press all the keys... |
14:23:38 | quel|lunch | cu l8r |
14:24:23 | dwihno | cul8rm8! |
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14:32:20 | bobTHC | hi all!!! |
14:37:42 | bobTHC | Can I submit the Afrikaan.lang file on cvs ? |
14:39:55 | bobTHC | this is the 15 language supported by rockbox |
14:40:16 | dwihno | How sick isn't that? :-) |
14:40:27 | Zagor | bobTHC: yes, do that |
14:40:28 | bobTHC | :) |
14:42:55 | dwihno | "Sound settings" -> "Click click clock" |
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14:43:05 | dwihno | "Display settings" -> "Clock clock gong click" |
14:43:56 | bobTHC | cvs server: invalid RCS keyword expansion mode |
14:43:59 | bobTHC | Error, CVS operation failed |
14:43:59 | bobTHC | ? |
14:44:38 | bobTHC | I can commit , update but server wont add a file what the deal? |
14:45:13 | Zagor | dwihno: actually, afrikaans is a dutch-like language. not quite as exotic as your sounds :-) |
14:45:22 | Zagor | bobTHC: I don't know |
14:46:17 | bobTHC | zagor : Special rights requiered for adding? |
14:46:37 | dwihno | Zagor: I noticed that while reading it :-) I'm just pulling your legs. |
14:50:14 | Zagor | bobTHC: no, shouldn't be special |
14:50:33 | Zagor | looks like a bad command line. what did you run? |
14:50:36 | bobTHC | n C:\rockbox\apps: cvs -q add -ku lang\afrikaans.lang ? |
14:50:58 | Zagor | what's -ku ? |
14:51:41 | bobTHC | i dont know automaticly added by tortoiseCVS |
14:51:53 | Zagor | heh |
14:52:02 | bobTHC | :) |
14:53:22 | Zagor | try removing the comment at the tiop |
14:59:36 | dwihno | tortoiseCVS? |
14:59:43 | dwihno | Sounds cool! :D |
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15:02:15 | bobTHC | yep cool :) |
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15:06:02 | RoSCOoP | hi? |
15:06:06 | RoSCOoP | hi |
15:06:11 | bobTHC | hi |
15:06:22 | Zagor | hi |
15:06:29 | RoSCOoP | is it the rockbox channel for archos? |
15:06:33 | bobTHC | ye |
15:06:44 | RoSCOoP | got a question! |
15:07:13 | RoSCOoP | i'm trying to build the Uisimulator, how should i do? |
15:07:52 | RoSCOoP | no idea? |
15:08:20 | RoSCOoP | how to build UIsimulator for W32? |
15:09:00 | Zagor | the uisimulator does not work well for win32. |
15:09:12 | Zagor | you need visual studio 6 |
15:09:18 | Zagor | i think |
15:09:22 | RoSCOoP | i 've got it |
15:09:39 | Zagor | i never use win32, so I'm afraid I can't help you |
15:09:45 | bobTHC | :) |
15:10:24 | RoSCOoP | okey i try under linux? |
15:11:51 | Zagor | yes, that works |
15:12:12 | RoSCOoP | I can see in your FAQ that you're looking for some docs about the MAS3507,what do you need exactly? |
15:12:37 | Zagor | DSP programming documentation and compiler |
15:14:19 | RoSCOoP | ok, i will ask to our DSp expert where i'm working |
15:14:36 | elinenbe | RoSCOoP: that sounds great! |
15:14:41 | Zagor | cool |
15:14:50 | dwihno | whoa |
15:15:43 | RoSCOoP | who are most of you, professionals or it's just an hobbit? |
15:16:18 | Zagor | most are professionals, although the rockbox project is a hobby |
15:16:26 | elinenbe | some are professionals, and some do it in their free time |
15:16:35 | Zagor | all do it in the free time |
15:16:48 | RoSCOoP | because your code is very clear |
15:17:17 | Zagor | thanks |
15:17:23 | elinenbe | Zagor is actually a full time rockbox developer −− I pay him $5 per day... |
15:17:34 | bobTHC | :) |
15:17:37 | Zagor | I just haven't receive my first pay check yet :) |
15:17:45 | kargatron | what is the issue with MAS docs - they cost $? |
15:17:47 | Zagor | you only pay me every 5 years ;) |
15:17:58 | Zagor | kargatron: no. they simply are not available. |
15:18:20 | elinenbe | RoSCOoP: any help in getting those documents would be greatly appreciated |
15:18:21 | kargatron | right, so if they're not available, what is RoSCOoP offering? a reverse-enginnered set? |
15:18:22 | Zagor | micronas doesn't let anyone see them, as far as I know |
15:18:34 | Zagor | kargatron: shh. I don't want to know. :-) |
15:19:51 | RoSCOoP | i'm a network programmer for netbricks (www.netbricks.net) and have buyed an archos recorder on ebay, and you work seems intersting |
15:20:18 | elinenbe | RoSCOoP: any help is always appreciated. |
15:20:29 | elinenbe | RoSCOoP: you can join the mailing list at rockbox.haxx.se |
15:22:50 | RoSCOoP | okey i will do that |
15:25:09 | elinenbe | RoSCOoP: that is where most of the discussion/bickerings/etc. take place |
15:25:25 | elinenbe | be warned though you could get a lot of messages some days! :) |
15:26:21 | RoSCOoP | why micronas doesn't share info about the MAS3507? |
15:27:20 | elinenbe | RoSCOoP: they are poops |
15:27:42 | webmind | morning |
15:27:45 | dwihno | They would perhaps sell the docs for expensive dollars, unless we buy 300 000 MAS's |
15:28:38 | Zagor | they consider the dsp their trade secret |
15:29:18 | RoSCOoP | do you think that it's for contrat reason with archos? |
15:30:19 | bobTHC | not specially with archos, a lot of other device use it... |
15:30:56 | dwihno | It shouldn't be so damn hard to find. |
15:31:08 | dwihno | I'll ask Jeeves :-) |
15:31:17 | Zagor | haha |
15:42:01 | RoSCOoP | what isthe difference between the MAS3507 you're talking about and the MAS3507D their talking about on http://www.mp3projects.com/docs.html |
15:43:10 | RoSCOoP | ? |
15:45:33 | Zagor | nothing. it's the same chip. |
15:45:55 | Zagor | but the data sheets don't contain any dsp programming information |
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15:47:38 | dwihno | Zagor: do you think Archos have the MAS DSP docs? |
15:47:58 | Zagor | I doubt it. They don't need them. |
15:48:19 | RoSCOoP | agree |
15:48:23 | dwihno | Jeeves didn't have them :-/ |
15:48:31 | Zagor | dwihno: surprise :-) |
15:48:43 | dwihno | Zagor: Jeeve's is da mään! He has so much cool stuff :-) |
15:49:37 | langhaarrocker | I just wanted to drop a comment on how friendly somebody rejected the *.wav feature request. But it seems you've already passed that topic... :) |
15:50:30 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: friendly? are you ironic or sincere? |
15:50:45 | langhaarrocker | sincere and surprised |
15:51:07 | dwihno | langhaarrocker: URL? :) |
15:51:08 | langhaarrocker | It means a lot of patience to aswer that question again and again without bursting out. |
15:51:37 | kargatron | submitters deserve any shit dished them. gotta learn to read FAQs sometime in your life |
15:51:39 | Zagor | the path of least resistance. that response is canned. I just select it from the list and press submit. :-) |
15:52:16 | kargatron | that canned response should mention the faq, imo, as a more general reminder... |
15:52:41 | Zagor | kargatron: yes |
15:54:27 | RoSCOoP | Why can't i record in wav with my archos ?? :) |
15:54:39 | Hadaka | physically impossible |
15:54:50 | dwihno | Nah, it's possible |
15:54:55 | Hadaka | is it? |
15:54:59 | dwihno | I think so |
15:55:02 | bobTHC | with dsp plugin |
15:55:15 | dwihno | Linus mentioned something about it |
15:55:24 | dwihno | Linus knows kebab, so I trust him 110% |
15:55:32 | bobTHC | :) |
15:55:34 | Zagor | it's physically possible to record, but not play back, if I recall correctly |
15:55:52 | Zagor | it's all very hypotetic anyway |
15:55:56 | Hadaka | oh, dsp plugin, right |
15:56:36 | langhaarrocker | data path speed? wasn't that a limitation, too? Maybe I should read the faq, too. |
15:56:46 | dwihno | Zagor: High quality recording would be so damn nice when doing serious recording stuff |
15:57:00 | RoSCOoP | record is the most important... I konow thousands of reporters that use DAT, that will be ready to use archos if it could record in wav (perfect sound)... |
15:58:02 | bobTHC | it's hypoteticly possible to record but physicaly impossible to playback..... it's a hard limitation for this ppl |
15:58:11 | Zagor | I can't quite say I understand them. they are silly if they thing field voice recording is any different uncomressed than high-quality mp3 |
15:58:39 | langhaarrocker | for my recordings the enconding is not the weak link. And I am conviced that only few people have the equipment so that encoding becomes the weak link. |
15:58:49 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: exactly |
15:58:59 | langhaarrocker | You'd need a serious external ad converter at first. |
15:59:54 | langhaarrocker | The only one that I found that portable and nearly affordable is just as expensive as the jb itself and its bigger in size anyway. I say nearly affordable because I don't have one. |
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16:00:00 | RoSCOoP | with a good preamp and a condenser microphone encoding IS the weak link! |
16:00:07 | kargatron | i would expect most people with DAT recorders to use both good mikes and have good stereos |
16:00:45 | langhaarrocker | RoSCOop: No tha analog circuit stuff in the archos is always worse. |
16:01:34 | langhaarrocker | I don't have a really good preamp and still the archos analog stuff is the weak link. |
16:01:48 | Zagor | kargatron: not necessarily. the major reasons people use DATs are because it's noise free and you can use the same tape over and over again. 1.5Mbit bandwith is not a concern to field recording reporters. |
16:02:11 | Hes | RoSCOoP: the A/D in the MAS is specified as "FM quality", it's not very good even though it does 48kHz/16 bit! |
16:02:26 | Hes | the D/A is much better than the A/D, for the analog part. |
16:02:40 | RoSCOoP | do you think that it's better to use the Creative jukebox (DAP) for quality recording? |
16:02:49 | Hes | even with external microphones and all. For high quality recording you need an external A/D. |
16:02:53 | langhaarrocker | Hes: have you ever looked at the output with a scope? you'd might be surprised |
16:03:14 | Hes | langhaarrocker: Nope. What came up? |
16:03:26 | bobTHC | DAP have same A/D converter quality... |
16:04:03 | langhaarrocker | It looked somehow like pulsed output. Maybe I'll take a screenshot of the scope when I'm home again. Then I'll post it. |
16:04:21 | Hes | Oh. |
16:04:54 | Hes | Maybe some noise in it, from the voltage converters? |
16:05:37 | langhaarrocker | RoSCOoP: I doubt that any portable consumer electronic recording has a decent microphone preamp. At least I haven't had any in my hands. And I have consumed 3 Minidisc recorders and a Jukebox so far... |
16:06:20 | Hes | I have an Edirol UA-5 for hard disk recording. Too bad it doesn't work (without hardware modification) as a standalone A/D. |
16:06:20 | langhaarrocker | Hes: No, it looks more like something like pulse (-width?) modulation is used to approximate the output voltage. |
16:06:31 | Hes | langhaarrocker: hm, that'd be ugly. |
16:07:22 | Hes | But good enough for what I use it for, so far 8-] |
16:07:35 | langhaarrocker | Hes: I don't mind it. It still sounds good enough for me - especially for road use. And when I'm at home I always can connect my DAT recorder as DA. |
16:07:41 | bobTHC | in all case voice recording is not where u view real difference between good and bad A/D circuits... |
16:07:51 | Hes | Hi-fi freaks will of course freak out, but hey 8-) |
16:07:55 | langhaarrocker | agreed |
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16:10:24 | RoSCOoP | Somebody i know want to make CD that will compile all the sound that you can hear in a city, and he is asks me to find a device for recording, but he bas not a very big budget.. Any idea? |
16:11:54 | RoSCOoP | I've tried the DAP for the wav recording mode, but battery life is rediculous and boot up time too long.. |
16:12:06 | langhaarrocker | that doesn't work. That is a inherently expensive task. For that you'll want to record soft noises, too. That require expensive micros and preamps. |
16:12:41 | RoSCOoP | Still have a good preamp and a good mic |
16:12:51 | RoSCOoP | any suggestion? |
16:12:53 | Hes | expensive omnidirectional mics and low noise preamps & A/D |
16:14:16 | bobTHC | quality is always expensive.... |
16:14:35 | RoSCOoP | I've got the mic and preamp parts, now i'm looking a device that will convert A/D and stock it without to much quality loss.. |
16:15:10 | Hes | if you have a laptop (and long enough cables to not record it's humming) I'd recommend the Edirol UA-5 |
16:15:43 | Hes | it does a pretty good job as an external 2-channel (stereo) A/D & D/A for a computer, and has a good selection of I/O connections |
16:16:24 | Hes | it's distributed by Roland so the support & availability is quite good, I bought mine in a instrument & audio gear shop in Finland |
16:16:41 | langhaarrocker | I don't dare to make serious suggestions because that is not my field. But I believe that once you have good mic and preamp it doesn't matter much if you use a cheap md. But as said before: you might want to prefer something like the Zefiro Inbox as a front end to the data store. |
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16:17:00 | Hes | It's very popular in the bootleg recording circles, good bang-for-buck ratio if you happen to be in posession of a laptop already. |
16:17:28 | Hes | and carrying something as big as a laptop + the UA-5 + 12V lead-acid battery is not out of the question. |
16:17:43 | bobTHC | :) |
16:17:55 | RoSCOoP | thanks |
16:18:07 | Zagor | Hes: how do you sneak that past the guards at a concert? ;) |
16:18:19 | langhaarrocker | spill some acid on them? |
16:18:41 | Hes | Be friends with the band members, or play in the band yourself (that's what I do 8-) |
16:18:59 | langhaarrocker | I only record my own band, too :) |
16:19:02 | * | zaknafein start thinking people only work and talk while he's having lunch...... |
16:19:19 | bobTHC | an du make bootleg of ure own concert? it's not bootleg it's live recording ;) |
16:19:21 | Zagor | oops, he's back. quiet everyone! |
16:19:22 | Hes | Some bands & clubs allow & support recording even. Not many big venues or record label bands though. |
16:19:49 | zaknafein | hey! i've recorded some concerts.. edguy, gamma ray.. blind guardian... |
16:20:02 | zaknafein | :) |
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16:20:38 | * | langhaarrocker can't hold the silence in spite of zagors warning |
16:20:38 | langhaarrocker | I haven't done any bootlegging yet. I alway authorize myself to do rekording |
16:21:21 | langhaarrocker | Oh, it's our goat-butcher in disguise! |
16:21:22 | Hes | There are a bunch of documents & mailing lists about the subject, just do a google search for "UA-5 bootleg" |
16:21:30 | bobTHC | roscoop : for 300 buck u have the hoontech di 2000 (http://www.hoontech.com/english/products/standalone/di2000.html#) i view very good review on it |
16:21:37 | langhaarrocker | or at the dat-head mailing list |
16:21:53 | Hes | people put an A/D + DAT in a backpack or suitcase, wire miniature microphones attached to their glasses, and get very good results 8-) |
16:22:17 | Hes | dat-heads is a good list, yes |
16:23:08 | langhaarrocker | I use a stereo mic by Sony. Cheap, a little bit cold in sound but very easy to handle. I had many fine recordings with it. (if you neglect the musical qualities of my band....) |
16:23:11 | dwihno | Hes: you are the värsta spy kids alltså :D |
16:23:11 | RoSCOoP | thanks for the link |
16:23:12 | quelsaruk | ummm.. are we talking about mics? |
16:23:26 | quelsaruk | for recording a concert? |
16:23:36 | langhaarrocker | I want mor mics! |
16:23:41 | bobTHC | :) |
16:24:03 | langhaarrocker | good mics! Cheap mics! I have a 12 Track system that needs food! |
16:25:52 | quelsaruk | Oh, great gurus of mics! which one do you recomend me for recording a concert? |
16:26:36 | * | Zagor prefers plastic cups and string |
16:27:32 | langhaarrocker | I recommend asking a guru, not me. I only have my Sony 959(?) and am confident with that. |
16:27:32 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: I'd recommend that, too. you might make good ear protection from it when attending X-Phobie concerts. :) |
16:29:50 | quelsaruk | great.. |
16:30:21 | quelsaruk | i'm calling sweden and i'm on queue!!! |
16:30:55 | quelsaruk | it's cheaper flying there than waiting online |
16:31:23 | langhaarrocker | On the line of Zagors plastic cups? |
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16:31:32 | quelsaruk | i thought this only happened in Spain |
16:31:41 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: yups :) |
16:33:39 | langhaarrocker | when talking about portable recording: I crave for a Zefiro Inbox http://www.denecke.com/prod04.htm#AD20 |
16:33:40 | langhaarrocker | If anybody knows anything comparable (battery driven portable mic preamp with ad) _please_ let me know. |
16:35:05 | Hes | Hm, looks like a very nice little box for the purpose. |
16:35:40 | langhaarrocker | still bigger than the jukebox :( |
16:36:29 | Hes | I selected the UA-5 long before i got the jukebox, for hard disk recording on the laptop, also makes for a very good external sound card while at home since I don't have digital I/O on the sound card... |
16:36:48 | Hes | but that little box would make a very good job together with rockbox. |
16:36:55 | bobTHC | the di2000 of hoontech is not battery driven but is on standard 12V and is very biger than the recorder... |
16:37:47 | langhaarrocker | For hd recording with a laptop I'd want at least 8 inputs. |
16:38:37 | Hes | Gotta run for some food... |
16:43:04 | quelsaruk | elinenbe: are you here? |
16:47:07 | Zagor | whee now my winnt desktop (x terminal) froze up. fun fun. |
16:48:58 | quelsaruk | winnt?? |
16:49:02 | quelsaruk | tsk.. tsk... |
16:49:23 | quelsaruk | you must treat windoze with love and care... |
16:49:41 | quelsaruk | windows is alive.. it must feel you like it |
16:50:00 | langhaarrocker | nah. Give it the whip |
16:50:01 | quelsaruk | and never ever it must think you are using linux ;) |
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16:57:20 | quelsaruk | hi edx |
16:57:28 | edx | hi |
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17:32:03 | xam | one feature request (if that is possible?): I use the feature that if you are playing a song and switch to the directory browser, it doesn't automatically start in the directory of the current song (I don't recall the feature name and my archos is at home). |
17:33:01 | xam | however I'd like to start from the songs directory if the archos was switched off and switched on again |
17:33:13 | xam | is that possible? |
17:35:52 | quelsaruk | i don't understand you... but that's normal in me :) |
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17:43:30 | xam | okay, 1. select a song to play and play it. 2. a |
17:44:04 | xam | 2. select a next song, but switch back to WPS by pressing ON |
17:45:06 | quelsaruk | ok |
17:45:28 | xam | 3. now you press ON a second time ... depending on your preferences, you'll start from the directory of the current song (1.), or at the last selected directory (2.) |
17:45:43 | quelsaruk | yups |
17:45:52 | xam | 4. the song (from 1.) is still playing, but you switch of the archos |
17:46:11 | quelsaruk | ajam |
17:46:15 | xam | 5. switch it on again and press "play" to resume the song |
17:46:36 | xam | 6. press ON to select the next song ... it starts in the root directory. |
17:46:38 | quelsaruk | ajam |
17:47:27 | xam | 7. my question: can you let it start from the directory of the currently playing song just under these circumstances (after poweroff/poweron-resume) |
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17:53:48 | xam | the reason for this is that I have a rather deep (and wide) directory structure on my archos, so everytime i poweroff/poweron-resume I have to go through a whole bunch of directories ie. just to jump to a particular song |
17:54:23 | quelsaruk | umm |
17:54:29 | quelsaruk | i think i have it that way |
17:54:45 | quelsaruk | no.. |
17:54:46 | quelsaruk | sorry |
17:54:52 | quelsaruk | or yes... |
17:55:01 | quelsaruk | i can't remember right now |
17:55:04 | xam | lol |
17:55:20 | quelsaruk | but i think i have it that way |
17:55:23 | xam | there is no option in the preferences |
17:55:41 | quelsaruk | my last neuron has vacations this week |
17:55:52 | quelsaruk | so i can't remember anything ;) |
17:56:10 | xam | ;) |
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18:00:34 | quelsaruk | must go |
18:00:37 | quelsaruk | cu later! |
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18:01:09 | xam | cu |
18:01:59 | bobTHC | cu l8ter |
18:02:02 | bobTHC | bye all |
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18:54:40 | elinenbe | have fun in rockbox-land! |
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19:04:23 | xam | what means top-time? the max time that was archived without powering off archos/rockbox? |
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19:06:22 | xam | it's 15h24m here with IPowerUS 2100mAh ... |
19:08:07 | xam | well, but I didn't recall using the archos until the batteries were dry ... I always recharged them before the battery energy level was getting too low |
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19:23:36 | Hadaka | 'svn cp <wc> <reposurl>/branches/blahblah' should work - but it should create the branch without your local modifications |
19:23:54 | Hadaka | after that, you should switch to that branch - in which case no differences are sent ofcourse |
19:23:57 | Hadaka | and then commit |
19:24:15 | Hadaka | cp & switch & commit - the procedure to make a branch and commit your changes there |
19:24:26 | Hadaka | argh, wrong channel |
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