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08:28:01 | adi|home | I'm going to have to kill someone.. my usb is pissing me off so much |
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08:28:51 | adi|home | I'm going to have to kill someone.. my usb is pissing me off so much |
08:28:57 | adi|home | just for bagder's sacke |
08:29:00 | adi|home | sake even |
08:29:23 | * | Bagder does not volounteer as victim |
08:29:59 | adi|home | nah.. not volunteering yea... |
08:30:06 | Bagder | :-) |
08:30:36 | adi|home | just tired of _everytime_ i use my usb my machine locks.. |
08:30:38 | adi|home | its getting old |
08:30:48 | Bagder | sounds really annoying, yes |
08:31:05 | adi|home | why would it be annoying? |
08:31:13 | adi|home | ive only rebooted my box 9 times in the last hour |
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08:36:38 | wunsoong | ellooooo |
08:36:42 | Bagder | hey |
08:36:54 | wunsoong | hey |
08:37:14 | wunsoong | anybody know if the 15gb recorder are the same as the 20gb other than the less storage? |
08:38:09 | Bagder | I don't know |
08:38:16 | Bagder | I *think* so, but I'm not sure |
08:38:23 | wunsoong | ic |
08:38:31 | dwihno | I need some guidance :) |
08:38:33 | dwihno | if ( (str[i] == '\r') || (str[i] == '\n')) str[i] = 0; |
08:38:45 | wunsoong | so, the archos jukebox is pretty good, yea? |
08:38:58 | Bagder | wunsoong: yes, with rockbox it... eh, rocks! ;-) |
08:39:02 | wunsoong | heh |
08:39:03 | dwihno | I'd like to keep it in a while (*str++) blahblah format... |
08:39:13 | wunsoong | can the battery be replaced? |
08:39:28 | Bagder | wunsoong: yes, they're normal AA ones |
08:39:42 | wunsoong | oh.. nice |
08:39:57 | wunsoong | battery life really ~10 hours? |
08:39:59 | Bagder | dwihno: so that's the problem? |
08:40:15 | dwihno | Bagder: I don't like looping through vars using strlen |
08:40:35 | adi|home | dwihno: what are you trying to do? |
08:40:37 | Bagder | wunsoong: yes, and you can get somewhat more by buying batteries with more mAh |
08:40:49 | dwihno | adi|home: just remove trailing newline chars |
08:41:08 | wunsoong | nice nice |
08:41:19 | adi|home | is it a null terminated line? |
08:41:24 | wunsoong | good thing i didnt get an ipod |
08:41:33 | wunsoong | overpriced as hell... |
08:41:46 | adi|home | its only trailing right? |
08:41:51 | Bagder | wunsoong: the archos is also very nice since it appears as a regular hard drive on the USB, no need for any special software etc |
08:41:52 | dwihno | adi|home: oui |
08:41:58 | adi|home | so if i have "this is \r\na test line\r\n" |
08:42:08 | adi|home | then the last \r\n is the only one replaced right? |
08:42:21 | * | dwihno agrees to Bagder, it's pretty neato! I used it with a regular 1.1 USB interface until I finally got USB2. It rocks the box! |
08:42:27 | wunsoong | hmmm... so anything not so good about the archos jukebox? |
08:42:42 | adi|home | yeah.. the archos firmware ;) |
08:42:47 | Bagder | wunsoong: its bigger and heavier than the ipod |
08:43:05 | Bagder | less ram |
08:43:24 | adi|home | more buttons |
08:43:28 | wunsoong | less ram? how does that affect performance? |
08:43:31 | dwihno | adi|home: well, I only process a line at a time, so it does not really matter if the first newline stuff is being replaced. |
08:43:43 | adi|home | well.. it does... |
08:44:08 | adi|home | if you are only going to replace the last instance in a string, then you need to look for the null terminator then search backwards |
08:44:13 | Bagder | wunsoong: it needs to spin up the disk and load data more often |
08:44:33 | Bagder | then again, I hear ipod really sucks at that anyway |
08:44:33 | wunsoong | ic |
08:44:34 | adi|home | if you are going to replace every instance, then you need to search for each \r\n and replace it with a null, and keep track of the substrings |
08:44:53 | adi|home | that make sense? |
08:45:01 | dwihno | adi|home: yes |
08:45:47 | adi|home | and you'll want to do: if( (str[i] == '\r') && (str[i+1] == '\n')) blah |
08:46:02 | adi|home | if you want carriage return line feed |
08:46:23 | adi|home | you need to decide what you want to do with the line before you decide how to do it |
08:46:40 | adi|home | check out the playlist reading code |
08:47:31 | adi|home | anyone remember the cables url for low priced AA cables? |
08:47:44 | Bagder | nope |
08:47:50 | adi|home | k |
08:48:43 | wunsoong | well, thanks for the help guys |
08:48:43 | wunsoong | later |
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08:49:51 | adi|home | dwihno: that help? |
08:50:28 | dwihno | erhm, not really :) |
08:51:48 | adi|home | heheh okay... |
08:51:56 | adi|home | what are you trying to do? |
08:52:07 | dwihno | I'll try to explain better, just gonna try again ;) |
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09:27:30 | Bagder | morning matsl |
09:27:51 | matsl | morning |
09:28:09 | matsl | Bagder: @ office? |
09:28:17 | Bagder | nope |
09:28:44 | matsl | no new home today? |
09:28:58 | Bagder | check linux3:9096 |
09:29:07 | matsl | ok ;-) |
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09:33:24 | adi|home | get_button |
09:33:29 | adi|home | the bool for that.. what does it set? |
09:33:35 | adi|home | i mean.. what does it mean? |
09:34:02 | Bagder | bool block |
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09:34:19 | Bagder | weather to return immediately or not if nothing is pressed |
09:34:27 | adi|home | got ya |
09:34:49 | * | Bagder downloads 14 different java installations |
09:34:55 | Bagder | darn sun |
09:35:00 | adi|home | then i don't think the sim is blocking correctly.. not sure though |
09:35:40 | Bagder | just watch out for key release events |
09:35:53 | adi|home | ? |
09:36:17 | Bagder | key releases from a previous press sometimes play tricks |
09:36:23 | adi|home | k |
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10:51:41 | b0bTHC | hi all! |
10:54:00 | Bagder | hey |
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11:05:35 | quelsaruk | morning |
11:05:41 | b0bTHC | hi |
11:06:22 | quelsaruk | the more i sleep, the more tired i am :) |
11:06:34 | b0bTHC | :) |
11:07:00 | quelsaruk | i needed this week of "holidays" :) |
11:18:11 | quelsaruk | it's time to check if my little patch works or not... :) |
11:45:54 | quelsaruk | no.. it doesn't :) |
11:49:27 | quelsaruk | Bagder: i have a small problem |
11:49:36 | quelsaruk | with espanol.lang |
11:50:04 | Bagder | yes? |
11:50:17 | quelsaruk | i've done uplang, checked all strings.. everything is ok |
11:50:38 | quelsaruk | i use binlang and create de espanol.lng |
11:51:21 | quelsaruk | but for example in the dir filter option... it is like if i use the next string |
11:52:00 | quelsaruk | i mena, if the string is "show files" and next string in english.lang is "music" |
11:52:13 | quelsaruk | instead of "show files" i see "music" |
11:52:58 | quelsaruk | i don't know if i have explained myself correctly or not :( |
11:53:06 | quelsaruk | i'm normally like a closed book |
11:54:11 | Bagder | sounds like a bug somewhere |
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11:55:50 | lob | hello. i looked in logs , but didn't find exact answer - is it possible to delete file directly from rockbox ? |
11:55:58 | Bagder | yes |
11:56:17 | lob | using original Archos firmware ? |
11:56:37 | Bagder | yes |
11:56:56 | lob | can you plz explain how ? |
11:57:13 | Bagder | on+play on the recorder |
11:57:24 | Bagder | uh, only in recent daily builds, not in 1.4 |
11:57:45 | quelsaruk | Bagder: that is what i thought |
11:58:07 | lob | how recent , what happened to this feature in latest builds ? |
11:58:22 | Bagder | uh? |
11:58:26 | Bagder | I don't know how recent |
11:58:32 | Bagder | nothing happened with it afaik |
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12:01:23 | quelsaruk | Bagder: 3 weeks |
12:01:50 | quelsaruk | more or less... or even more.. let's say since 12 January |
12:02:02 | Bagder | what is 3 weeks? |
12:02:12 | quelsaruk | the delete option |
12:02:14 | quelsaruk | :) |
12:02:15 | quelsaruk | sorry |
12:02:17 | Bagder | ah |
12:02:33 | quelsaruk | i jumped from one thing to another |
12:02:36 | quelsaruk | :) |
12:02:38 | Bagder | :-) |
12:02:54 | dwihno | quelsaruk: Did you get your 2.5" case yet? :) |
12:03:19 | quelsaruk | i'm still waiting |
12:03:27 | Mine78 | Where are the Feature request or bug report pages ? |
12:03:30 | quelsaruk | transports are slow here |
12:03:36 | Mine78 | I mean the pages are up but no reports in them :( |
12:03:37 | lob | regarding delete option. i'm holding right now recorder 20GB ( no fm ) in my hands. I have 14GB of music and i want to hear to song and delete what i don't want |
12:04:00 | lob | i still don't understand what firmware should i use to be able to do it |
12:04:12 | Bagder | get a daily build |
12:04:12 | quelsaruk | you can use rockbox or archos |
12:04:23 | quelsaruk | both of them can delete files |
12:04:59 | dwihno | quelsaruk: somebody "up there" seems to dislike me, I have been waiting for a week (and according to their web site, they are supposed to be able to ship the goods in 2 days)! |
12:05:30 | Mine78 | I waited 4 weeks ! My packeage went to India insted of Italy ! |
12:05:32 | quelsaruk | aarggg.. if inly i had bet with you :) |
12:06:17 | Bagder | Mine78: heheh! |
12:06:41 | Mine78 | Fedex typing errore... |
12:07:32 | quelsaruk | dwihno: i have it!!!!!!!!! |
12:07:34 | xam | Mine78 well, you have to agree "Italy" and "India" sound VERY similar, don't they? |
12:08:13 | dwihno | quelsaruk: which what? :) |
12:08:17 | quelsaruk | the case |
12:08:19 | quelsaruk | just now |
12:08:21 | dwihno | no way |
12:08:23 | Mine78 | er......... |
12:08:23 | dwihno | you're kidding me |
12:08:24 | quelsaruk | it has arrived |
12:08:31 | dwihno | you're living in an u-land for crying out loud ;) |
12:08:35 | quelsaruk | i swear |
12:09:15 | dwihno | Gone for lunch, back in a flash or two |
12:09:16 | dwihno | ... |
12:09:19 | quelsaruk | i have it in my hands! i feel the power within it :) |
12:09:19 | dwihno | congrats btw :) |
12:09:22 | quelsaruk | thx |
12:09:24 | quelsaruk | :) |
12:10:05 | Mine78 | What is the "1 touch recording" button combiantion ? |
12:11:03 | lob | thanks to Mine78 - now i can delete files :) |
12:11:11 | Mine78 | ^_^ |
12:11:19 | quelsaruk | :) |
12:11:30 | lob | When supposed to be next official rockbox release for recorder ? |
12:11:32 | Mine78 | India is VERY DIFFERENT form Italy... |
12:11:47 | Bagder | lob: "soon" |
12:12:30 | xam | Mine78 well, both are eastern from where I'm living ;) |
12:12:59 | Mine78 | eheheheh6 |
12:13:53 | quelsaruk | but "italianas" are more beautiful than indian women ;) |
12:13:56 | xam | Mike78 Both start with "I" and have the letter 'a' in common |
12:14:11 | Mine78 | xam: oooohhhh didn't noticed it :) |
12:14:18 | Mine78 | xam: oooohhhh didn't noticed that :) |
12:14:20 | xam | quelsaruk that's your opinion |
12:14:29 | Mine78 | Italiang girls are beautiful |
12:15:10 | xam | indian woman grow fat when they are getting old ... that's the major difference ;) |
12:15:38 | Mine78 | Italian girls make good sex ^_^ |
12:17:09 | xam | I suppose that's not true for ALL italian women, and I think there are also indian girls that do good sex |
12:17:17 | xam | just think about karma sutra |
12:17:47 | Mine78 | Go to India and try to ask for it ... you will be surprised :) |
12:18:10 | lob | general question regarding battery life-time. It seems that my batteries hold only 6-7 hours. And another thing : Let's say battery shows 85%. I turn recorder off and when i turn it back on (after few hours) i see 70%. What can be wrong |
12:18:23 | quelsaruk | Bagder: I've built a new ajbrec.ajz using cvs, downloaded english.lng from the website, roloed the new firmware, instaled the new language file... and get the same kind of bug |
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12:20:52 | lob | . |
12:22:05 | Bagder | lob: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/battery-faq.html |
12:22:19 | Bagder | batteries are magic |
12:22:57 | lob | thanks guys , i'll go RTFM , c ya ! |
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12:24:47 | quelsaruk | Bagder: did you read my last phrase? |
12:25:05 | Bagder | yes |
12:25:33 | quelsaruk | could you test it, just to see that it's not one of my new demons ? |
12:25:51 | Bagder | not right now, I'm busy |
12:25:58 | quelsaruk | ok |
12:26:01 | quelsaruk | don't worry :) |
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12:29:16 | henrysuns | 2.0 is really coming?? |
12:29:18 | henrysuns | yay |
12:29:49 | quelsaruk | sooon |
12:29:58 | henrysuns | (i was pleased to see my ui proposal got some coverage in the mailinglist without my pressuring it) |
12:30:15 | Zagor | hehe |
12:30:16 | Bagder | :-) |
12:30:39 | henrysuns | sorry i sorta fell off the side of the universe |
12:30:47 | Zagor | i brought it up, just to show there are many ways and opinions how to improve the UI |
12:31:03 | henrysuns | yup |
12:31:26 | henrysuns | i would contribute to the thread but it seems unneccersary. |
12:31:44 | henrysuns | attacking the ui'd be a good post 2.0 thing to worry about |
12:31:51 | * | Bagder agrees |
12:32:10 | quelsaruk | zagor... i finished my quick menu screens patch.... i just have to test it.. and be your worst nightmare :) |
12:32:23 | Zagor | :) |
12:32:52 | henrysuns | well. it's 3.30am, so i'm off to bed... i'll try to drop by once 2.0 gets rolled out and be a constructive nuisance on the UI front :-) |
12:33:56 | Zagor | hehe |
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12:35:49 | henrysuns | if only i had a 300gb jukebox, i wouldnt have to decide what to put on it |
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12:46:27 | b0bTHC | :) |
12:47:15 | b0bTHC | u can already use a 60gigs HD..... 1/5 ure collection.... |
12:47:23 | b0bTHC | not bad |
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13:58:23 | quelsaruk | Zagor: have u tested cvs build? |
13:58:41 | quelsaruk | i think i'm getting a new version of my lovely demons.... |
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14:00:02 | Zagor | i haven't tested in a while |
14:01:45 | quelsaruk | i made a patch and got a nasty bug with language strings, so i downloaded rockbox again, compiled the firmware without changing anything |
14:02:09 | Zagor | rename the lang file so it doesn't load it |
14:02:41 | quelsaruk | downloaded the english.lng file from the website, charged it in rockbox |
14:02:48 | quelsaruk | and i get the same nasty bug |
14:03:49 | quelsaruk | i mean... i made changes in the first firmware i tested today, but not in the languages files. I compiled a new firmware, and got the latest compiled english.lng version |
14:04:44 | quelsaruk | and get the same error.. so i think it's not something i made wrong.. because i've installed the "oficial" firmware with the official language file |
14:05:21 | quelsaruk | have i explained myself more or less correctly? |
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14:24:06 | elinenbe | morning |
14:24:53 | quelsaruk | afternoon elinenbe |
14:24:59 | quelsaruk | ;) |
14:25:00 | b0bTHC | :) |
14:25:04 | elinenbe | Zagor: maybe you can answer this |
14:25:14 | quelsaruk | time to go home for lunch! |
14:25:24 | b0bTHC | yep |
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14:25:44 | elinenbe | You know how the recorder has a line out and a digital out on the top −− it is feasibly possilbe to send the line out data to both? |
14:26:15 | Zagor | i don't know |
14:26:30 | elinenbe | I would like to plug both my headphones in to the recorder and my grilfriends at the same time without bringing extra "stuff" (headphone splitter, etc.) |
14:27:06 | elinenbe | look here −− A-A USB Cables $.95 http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=USBAA2 |
14:27:51 | Zagor | do you have headphones that can use spdif? |
14:28:28 | elinenbe | No −− I just have normal headphones |
14:29:01 | Zagor | then you still need the splitter. the rec only has headphone out and digital out. no analog line out. |
14:29:51 | Zagor | oh. now I actually read your question... the answer is no. |
14:29:58 | elinenbe | I was just wondering if the digital could be made a headphone out through software? |
14:30:25 | elinenbe | some of my audio hardware has adjustable ports depending on the software settings. |
14:32:08 | Zagor | ok. afaik the MAS cannot switch output like that. |
14:34:00 | elinenbe | Zagor: okay |
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15:23:56 | Bagder | Zagor: you have any outstanding issues with the bookmark patch you recall? |
15:25:34 | PsycoXul | isn't it recorder-only? |
15:25:56 | Bagder | right, the interface needs to be fixed |
15:29:39 | Zagor | i haven't looked at his latest iteration |
15:29:54 | Bagder | I'm doing that now |
15:32:00 | Zagor | i'd like to look at it before it's merged |
15:35:23 | Bagder | it doesn't apply cleanly, it is crlf at places, it is too wide at places |
15:35:38 | Bagder | it doesn't even compile on a player |
15:41:13 | Zagor | i had some coneptual issues with it too. can't remember what they were right now. |
15:42:34 | Bagder | ok, now it at least builds on both rec and player |
15:42:47 | Bagder | I'll check it out closer later |
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16:01:38 | Phoe-chan | does anyone have the time to evangelise archos to me? I'm howevering on the spur of buying but have been reading a lot of bad reviews and wanted to talk to someone who knows the workings of the beast. |
16:02:22 | Zagor | archos is not a product, it's a company. they sell half a dozen different mp3 players |
16:02:25 | tracktheripper | i have a Jukebox Recorder 10 and it has NEVER gone wrong |
16:02:45 | tracktheripper | and every day its been going through solid use non-stop for 6 months now :-) |
16:02:47 | Phoe-chan | sorry, I was aware of the different class distinctions, but the complaints seem to span all the product lines |
16:03:02 | tracktheripper | well I swear by Archos, ive had no trouble with them |
16:03:24 | Phoe-chan | the main two being "1.5 - 2hr battery life" and "randomly stops mid playback". |
16:03:56 | tracktheripper | well i get 10hours out of mine and NEVER stops during midplayback |
16:04:20 | Phoe-chan | thanks track, that ties up with what the other half of the reviews say. |
16:04:28 | tracktheripper | yea |
16:04:43 | tracktheripper | most of the bad reviews come from those who are unable to RTFM! |
16:04:59 | Phoe-chan | its just the first time I've run into this phenomenon. A completely polar review space. No half way houses, just "Its great, does everything" or "its crap, doesn't work" |
16:05:03 | Zagor | i can't say there's another device out there that offers what the rec20 has |
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16:05:15 | quelsaruk | ñam..ñam |
16:06:01 | tracktheripper | there is another device Zagor, the Archos Multimedia :-) |
16:06:28 | Zagor | tracktheripper: no. the MM has 4-6 hour battery life and usb1.1 |
16:06:45 | Zagor | and it doesn't have rockbox :-) |
16:06:48 | Phoe-chan | yes, It seems good for what I need to (mainly portable storage with a bit of music), is the FM vastly different from the rec20? from the point of view of a consumer rather than your views on deving? |
16:06:51 | tracktheripper | well u can buy a USB2 kit for the MM :-) |
16:06:58 | tracktheripper | and the batt life is 8 hours :-) |
16:06:59 | Phoe-chan | Yeah, I dropped the MM because its trying too hard. |
16:07:06 | tracktheripper | ohhh |
16:07:17 | Phoe-chan | But the FM is about as cheap as the rec20 in shops now, so I am leaning towards it |
16:07:21 | Zagor | tracktheripper: is it really? tell that to the MM owners... |
16:07:29 | tracktheripper | well Zagor im sure wiv ur intellengence u can write a firmware for the MM |
16:07:30 | tracktheripper | :-) |
16:07:41 | Zagor | Phoe-chan: i'd recommend the old rec20. those replacable batteries are good. |
16:07:47 | tracktheripper | well according to Archos the batt life for the MM is 8 hours |
16:08:08 | Zagor | according to actual MM owners, it's not. |
16:08:14 | tracktheripper | ohhhh |
16:08:15 | tracktheripper | :-( |
16:08:57 | Phoe-chan | thanks Zagor, BTW: does the "now works on FM" in the bulletin mean it runs without falling over, or that it has the full feature set (equiv to the rec20) working? |
16:09:32 | tracktheripper | Zagor does the battery life for the Recorders improve if you use 2000Mah batteries? |
16:09:42 | Zagor | naturally |
16:10:00 | Zagor | Phoe-chan: it works, but not 100% |
16:10:04 | tracktheripper | I cant get hold of 2000Mah batts in the UK |
16:10:07 | Phoe-chan | right. |
16:10:11 | tracktheripper | only 1500 ones |
16:10:21 | Zagor | Phoe-chan: but that's just a matter of time |
16:10:50 | tracktheripper | I laughed my head off when someone submitted a request "Please make the normal Recorder record and play FM" |
16:10:50 | quelsaruk | tracktheripper: i can get 1800 in Spain, and we are really slow in all this kind of stuff, so you can for sure get 1800 or higher in UK |
16:10:57 | * | dwihno still runs on the stock batteries. |
16:11:03 | dwihno | quelsaruk: how well is the evil case? :) |
16:11:06 | tracktheripper | ohhh |
16:11:33 | quelsaruk | dwihno: me too, i got 1 extra set of batteries from archos (mine is a reaaally old recorder) |
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16:11:49 | quelsaruk | dwihno: i miss the 4 blue corners |
16:12:10 | quelsaruk | :) |
16:12:23 | dwihno | hehe :-) |
16:12:26 | dwihno | did it work nicely? |
16:12:31 | dwihno | You got yours before me :( |
16:12:33 | dwihno | *sob* |
16:12:43 | dwihno | Sweden is a goddamn U-land sometimse |
16:12:44 | quelsaruk | didn't try it yet |
16:12:59 | dwihno | Or perhaps komplett.se is just slow when it comes to delivering |
16:13:26 | quelsaruk | i'm waiting your case.. so we can try them at the same time ;) |
16:13:47 | dwihno | hehe |
16:14:09 | quelsaruk | just kidding, i'll try it in 2 hours |
16:16:40 | dwihno | 2 day delivery.. it has been *count* 5 business days :/ |
16:17:09 | Phoe-chan | Gah, my other friend pulled out of geting one. No large volume discount >_< |
16:17:49 | quelsaruk | dwihno: sorry :( |
16:18:09 | dwihno | quelsaruk: Me too! :( *sigh* |
16:24:43 | quelsaruk | cvs [diff aborted]: recv() from server cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net: EOF |
16:24:44 | quelsaruk | jummsss |
16:25:18 | quelsaruk | this is not normal... anyone knows why do i get this message ? |
16:31:29 | quelsaruk | ok.. now it works |
16:32:09 | quelsaruk | anyone wants one or more caotic demons?? i sell or lend them :( |
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21:18:43 | Zagor | hi |
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21:19:19 | tracktheripper | hi rooooooooom |
21:19:20 | tracktheripper | :-) |
21:21:01 | smeagol | hiya |
21:21:25 | tracktheripper | hi Smeagol |
21:21:30 | tracktheripper | how are ya? |
21:21:34 | smeagol | fine thnx |
21:21:39 | tracktheripper | cool :-) |
21:21:42 | smeagol | you? |
21:22:06 | tracktheripper | im well. Me and Zagor were having a debate about the Archos Multimedia :-) |
21:22:15 | smeagol | heh ok |
21:22:38 | smeagol | like in wanna have it or not :-) |
21:22:41 | tracktheripper | well he said the most advanced Archos is the JBRec20 but I said, "Wrong, its the Multimedia" :-) |
21:22:50 | smeagol | heh |
21:22:52 | smeagol | well ... |
21:23:11 | tracktheripper | and he said, but the battery life is only 4 hours and has USB 1.1 |
21:23:19 | smeagol | exactly |
21:23:23 | smeagol | I agree with him |
21:23:27 | tracktheripper | and I said yea but you can buy a USB2 kit and the battery life is 8 hours!] |
21:23:35 | smeagol | and the display is to small |
21:23:45 | tracktheripper | but the display is full colour! |
21:23:47 | smeagol | hrmz 8 hours you sure? |
21:24:01 | tracktheripper | according to the Archos webby yes :-) |
21:24:06 | smeagol | heh |
21:24:16 | smeagol | you believe advertisements? |
21:24:22 | smeagol | ;-) |
21:24:25 | tracktheripper | and then he said the JBRec20 has Rockbox!!! the MM Doesn't! |
21:24:34 | smeagol | there you go! |
21:24:46 | tracktheripper | I wanted to thump him after he said that! lol :-) |
21:25:05 | smeagol | heh |
21:25:15 | tracktheripper | because i hate losing arguments :-) |
21:25:26 | smeagol | who doesn't ;-) |
21:25:36 | tracktheripper | lol he's alright Zagor :-) |
21:25:44 | smeagol | I stopped having them |
21:25:51 | tracktheripper | without him we'd be stuck on our shitty Archos' firmwares :-) |
21:26:08 | smeagol | woo hoo |
21:26:26 | smeagol | are you on the mailing list by any chance? |
21:26:45 | tracktheripper | I used to but not anymore, because it clogged up my mailbox |
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21:26:56 | tracktheripper | but if u wanna email me direct ill give u my email addy |
21:27:06 | smeagol | Joaquim has a new ui |
21:27:17 | tracktheripper | pardon? |
21:27:30 | smeagol | he did some things with the user interface |
21:27:35 | tracktheripper | ohhhh |
21:27:43 | tracktheripper | so has he redesigned the interface? |
21:27:46 | smeagol | yup |
21:27:58 | tracktheripper | oh right, where can I see it? |
21:28:08 | smeagol | hang on |
21:28:25 | smeagol | http://www.x64.com/public/ajbrec.ajz |
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21:28:27 | tracktheripper | ;-) |
21:28:30 | smeagol | check the size first |
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21:28:45 | tracktheripper | cheers matey :-) |
21:28:51 | Mine78 | hi guys |
21:28:57 | Mine78 | report a little bug: |
21:28:57 | smeagol | hi Mine78 |
21:29:01 | Mine78 | resume: ask |
21:29:02 | tracktheripper | hey Mine :-) |
21:29:07 | Mine78 | doesn't work ! |
21:29:12 | smeagol | :-( |
21:29:16 | smeagol | it does here |
21:29:17 | Mine78 | if inserted in the cfg file |
21:29:34 | tracktheripper | Smeagol where u from? |
21:29:42 | smeagol | the Netherlands |
21:29:45 | Mine78 | no, if you set NO manually and then try to reload the cfg with resume: ask it doesn't set it to ask |
21:30:02 | Mine78 | can anyone control ? |
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21:30:11 | tracktheripper | i wish Zagor was here :-( |
21:30:20 | smeagol | uhm |
21:30:26 | smeagol | he is here |
21:30:52 | tracktheripper | ohhh sorry I need my eyes tested! |
21:30:55 | smeagol | heh |
21:31:00 | tracktheripper | didn;t see him :-) |
21:31:04 | tracktheripper | HELLO ZAGOR!!! |
21:31:05 | tracktheripper | how are ya? |
21:31:08 | tracktheripper | :-) |
21:31:17 | smeagol | you watched that multimedia screen to much... hurts the eyes heh |
21:31:25 | tracktheripper | lol heehee :-) |
21:31:48 | tracktheripper | but when you think about it, its amazing what it can do! play MP3, play MPEG, take digital photo's, use as hard drive :-) |
21:32:11 | smeagol | to take pictures you need that $99 camera thingy right? |
21:32:24 | tracktheripper | yea u need to buy the camera attachment |
21:32:32 | smeagol | hrm ya |
21:32:41 | smeagol | well I'm happy with the recorder |
21:32:47 | tracktheripper | :-) |
21:32:57 | tracktheripper | <−−−−−−- wants an FM Recorder |
21:33:00 | tracktheripper | <−−−−−−−− badly |
21:33:02 | * | smeagol too |
21:33:21 | smeagol | but I'll end up with 2 |
21:33:30 | smeagol | a recorder and FM recorder |
21:33:34 | tracktheripper | well u can give me one then :-) |
21:33:39 | smeagol | heh |
21:33:54 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: my pda can do all that, and was only $114 |
21:34:00 | smeagol | heh |
21:34:03 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: though it needs CF memory for storage |
21:34:09 | PsycoXul | beside the 16mb built in |
21:34:25 | smeagol | 16mb vs 20gb hrmz |
21:34:34 | PsycoXul | and the CF camera for it is out of production, very expensive, and only 640x480 |
21:35:06 | PsycoXul | but it's got a bigger screen than the multimedia |
21:35:12 | PsycoXul | and is 240x320 |
21:35:12 | smeagol | ok |
21:35:22 | PsycoXul | and it can be networked |
21:35:27 | smeagol | the screen on the multimedia is just too small |
21:35:28 | PsycoXul | ethernet or wireless |
21:35:32 | smeagol | wifi? |
21:35:35 | PsycoXul | yep |
21:35:40 | smeagol | ok |
21:35:46 | PsycoXul | i've just got a 10mbit ethernet card for it though |
21:35:47 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:35:47 | smeagol | 54mb or 11mb? |
21:36:00 | PsycoXul | it's only a 166mhz mips |
21:36:17 | PsycoXul | and apparently it can't really handle any more than ~10mbit too well |
21:36:17 | smeagol | so divx movies is out of the question? |
21:36:17 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:36:26 | PsycoXul | no, it plays divx |
21:36:29 | smeagol | kewl |
21:36:41 | PsycoXul | mp3, ogg, mpeg, divx... |
21:36:42 | smeagol | does it have a 640x480 aux port? |
21:36:45 | PsycoXul | no |
21:36:49 | smeagol | oh |
21:36:56 | PsycoXul | :/ |
21:37:01 | PsycoXul | it's really pretty cheapo |
21:37:03 | smeagol | ah well |
21:37:07 | PsycoXul | it's not a pocketpc |
21:37:11 | PsycoXul | but it wishes it was |
21:37:12 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:37:18 | PsycoXul | it's close but not quite |
21:37:19 | smeagol | if I want to watch movies in the train I'll bring my laptop |
21:37:20 | PsycoXul | and much cheaper |
21:37:24 | smeagol | if I can sit that is |
21:37:31 | PsycoXul | but you know |
21:37:34 | PsycoXul | for the price of a multimedia |
21:37:39 | PsycoXul | you could get a nice pocketpc |
21:37:44 | PsycoXul | with built-in bluetooth and wifi |
21:38:01 | smeagol | yes but I just want to listen music and audio books ;-) |
21:38:16 | PsycoXul | 400mhz ARM processor and 32 or 64mb of ram |
21:38:26 | smeagol | ARM hey they still make procs? |
21:38:31 | PsycoXul | well |
21:38:34 | PsycoXul | it's made by intel |
21:38:37 | tracktheripper | Hi im back |
21:38:41 | PsycoXul | and they call it xscale or whatever |
21:38:43 | smeagol | heh after the demise of Acorn I thought they died |
21:38:43 | tracktheripper | my sister inturrupted me |
21:38:45 | PsycoXul | but it's ARM arch i think |
21:38:45 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:39:02 | smeagol | wb tracktheripper |
21:39:20 | tracktheripper | Wow SMEAG I love the new mobile phone line selector in the new interface! |
21:39:34 | PsycoXul | and actualy |
21:39:35 | smeagol | I have not loaded it yet |
21:39:43 | PsycoXul | one of those expensive pocketpc's has usb host support |
21:39:46 | smeagol | so track I need to load it then ? ;-) |
21:39:52 | PsycoXul | so you could take your archos and use it as a harddrive for it |
21:39:53 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:40:03 | tracktheripper | the full-line selector is far better than the cursor in Rockbox |
21:40:06 | PsycoXul | actualy maybe 2 of them heh |
21:40:10 | smeagol | heh |
21:40:14 | smeagol | PsycoXul: heh |
21:40:29 | smeagol | Joaquim rules then |
21:40:32 | PsycoXul | i heard of one that has usb host support, and then saw an ad for a different one that said it did |
21:40:35 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:40:45 | smeagol | ok |
21:40:46 | Mine78 | is there a way to set the scrolling "not bouncing" but simply go right and re-enter left ? |
21:40:47 | tracktheripper | and Zagor said a mobile-phone line selector isn't possible :-) |
21:40:47 | Mine78 | is there a way to set the scrolling "not bouncing" but simply go right and re-enter left ? |
21:41:14 | PsycoXul | Mine78: bouncing is only for short lines |
21:41:27 | PsycoXul | Mine78: you can set how short of lines, and you set it at a certain point and it'll never use it |
21:41:33 | * | smeagol struggles with the idea "what the fsck is mobile-phone line" |
21:41:40 | Mine78 | what is the option ? |
21:41:45 | Mine78 | I mean the name |
21:41:50 | PsycoXul | Mine78: i forget |
21:41:52 | PsycoXul | it should be obvious |
21:42:01 | PsycoXul | once you're in the General Settings->Display area |
21:42:02 | tracktheripper | Smeag you know the cursor in the Archos and Rockbox firmware? |
21:42:08 | smeagol | yup |
21:42:11 | PsycoXul | it'll say "Bidirectional"something |
21:42:27 | Mine78 | bidr limit |
21:42:36 | Mine78 | set to 0 0 No bouncing ? |
21:42:37 | tracktheripper | you know the menus in a Nokia mobile phone? |
21:42:44 | smeagol | yup |
21:43:14 | Mine78 | what is the default value ? |
21:43:27 | tracktheripper | you know you have a full line that you move to select the option you require? |
21:43:50 | PsycoXul | Mine78: dunno, i haven't messed with it |
21:43:57 | Mine78 | thanx |
21:44:01 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: is this improvement only for the recorder? |
21:44:06 | smeagol | tracktheripper: yep |
21:44:06 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:44:12 | PsycoXul | well thats useless |
21:44:24 | PsycoXul | recorder isn't so strapped for screen space that it needs to get rid of the cursor |
21:44:27 | PsycoXul | while the player is |
21:44:28 | tracktheripper | in the new interface, the "line-selector" is present |
21:44:38 | tracktheripper | the line is far nicer than the cursor |
21:44:44 | smeagol | ok tracktheripper I'm gonna copy it over the current one |
21:44:46 | smeagol | brb |
21:45:00 | tracktheripper | Smeag listen carefully |
21:45:04 | smeagol | yeah |
21:45:23 | tracktheripper | After you downloaded the ajbrec.ajz file rename it to test.ajz |
21:45:31 | smeagol | ok |
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21:45:44 | tracktheripper | Copy test.ajz to the root of your Archos |
21:46:06 | smeagol | yes ok |
21:46:24 | tracktheripper | Boot up Rockbox like you do |
21:47:11 | smeagol | yes |
21:47:12 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:47:47 | PsycoXul | what is this, ROLO for special ed hour |
21:47:49 | tracktheripper | when Rockbox has loaded boot up test.ajz via Rolo so you can make comparisons for yourself |
21:47:55 | smeagol | ah ok |
21:47:58 | PsycoXul | heh |
21:47:59 | tracktheripper | the new interface does have some features missing |
21:48:05 | smeagol | but it does work right |
21:48:05 | tracktheripper | that way you don't lose Rockbox |
21:48:07 | smeagol | oh |
21:48:10 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:48:50 | tracktheripper | I WANT THAT LINE SELECTOR IN THE ROCKBOX FIRMWARE NOW!!!!!!! :-) |
21:48:53 | tracktheripper | heehee :-) |
21:48:59 | smeagol | heh |
21:49:07 | tracktheripper | :-) |
21:49:48 | Mine78 | it's not possible to not use the bidirectional feature |
21:49:51 | Mine78 | it is always on |
21:50:12 | tracktheripper | please, pretty please, please with sugar on top Smeag fix my request for me :-) |
21:50:59 | smeagol | heh |
21:51:13 | smeagol | you're not alone in your request |
21:51:18 | smeagol | have seen several on the list |
21:51:21 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:51:32 | tracktheripper | But it is possible so why can't someone implement it? |
21:51:40 | tracktheripper | I can't program so therefore I can't do it myself |
21:52:11 | smeagol | nah we're just humble (bloody pain in the ars) endusers :-) WE NEED IT |
21:52:12 | smeagol | heh |
21:52:20 | tracktheripper | yea we DO!! |
21:52:38 | tracktheripper | I will pay who-ever fixes this £60,000 :-) |
21:52:46 | smeagol | it makes the music so much better |
21:52:56 | smeagol | heh |
21:53:02 | smeagol | you gonna pay for it <g> |
21:53:10 | tracktheripper | the interface is so much cooler with the line selector |
21:54:14 | smeagol | hey tracktheripper: it's a mp3 player, so it's not required to drool on the screen all the time ;-) |
21:54:28 | tracktheripper | im not talking to you now Smeag :-( |
21:54:37 | smeagol | heh |
21:54:44 | tracktheripper | :-) |
21:54:57 | smeagol | is the archos water resistant? |
21:55:38 | tracktheripper | Smeag can your Archos fire laser-beams out of its USB port? |
21:55:47 | smeagol | sony had a walkman which one could use under the shower |
21:55:54 | tracktheripper | lol |
21:55:59 | Mine78 | use a plastic bag ! |
21:56:04 | smeagol | if it has to yeah laserbeams easy! |
21:56:13 | tracktheripper | :-) |
21:56:14 | smeagol | it's also a tricorder |
21:56:24 | Mine78 | bye to all |
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21:56:36 | tracktheripper | well since you are so tecnically clever fix my Auto Voice Transcriber please :-) |
21:56:44 | smeagol | heh |
21:56:55 | smeagol | universal translater? |
21:57:01 | smeagol | does it work? |
21:57:09 | xam | argllll ... for fucks sake ... it seems to work on my laptop |
21:57:21 | smeagol | uhm? |
21:57:26 | xam | sorry, wrong window |
21:57:30 | smeagol | heh |
21:58:07 | tracktheripper | Smeag whats that link again for the tweaked interface? |
21:58:27 | smeagol | http://www.x64.com/public/ajbrec.ajz |
21:58:31 | xam | smeagol I have two identical setups (debian/sarge, ix86, updated today, same developer packages, but on one machine the compiled binaries are fine, on the other not |
21:58:43 | tracktheripper | cheers |
21:58:58 | smeagol | sorry xam: I'm just an enduser :-( |
21:59:36 | tracktheripper | Smeag once youve extracted the source code can you just use Notepad to make the tweaks? |
21:59:59 | smeagol | dunno I've just got the login code for the compiler for windows |
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22:00:07 | xam | smeagol what would YOU say if you have a webpage and it looks different on 2 almost identical PCs (e.g. same windows version, same browser version, same fonts ...) |
22:00:08 | tracktheripper | oh right |
22:00:09 | smeagol | havent looked at it at all |
22:00:18 | tracktheripper | oh right |
22:00:35 | smeagol | xam: same hardware? |
22:01:13 | xam | nope, one is a pentiumIII mobile 1 GHz laptop, the other one is a pentiumIII 1.6 Ghz desktop |
22:01:39 | smeagol | how different are the pages? |
22:01:50 | smeagol | color or margins? |
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22:03:37 | xam | smeagol that was just a hypothetical example... in my example I have just a programme that works on the laptop, and not on the desktop ... but it's not a hardware depended problem anyway |
22:03:48 | smeagol | nope |
22:04:00 | smeagol | but you may have an issue with drivers AND DLL versions |
22:04:16 | smeagol | but then again |
22:04:21 | smeagol | your not using windows |
22:04:24 | smeagol | arg |
22:04:43 | xam | smeagol right |
22:05:22 | tracktheripper | Hi Galik |
22:05:23 | smeagol | I dunno if it does depend on it, but the symlinks point to the correct dirs ? |
22:05:37 | xam | smeagol both almost identical setup (on the desktop is just more software installed - but the basic setup is the same ... exactly same version of OS) |
22:05:50 | xam | smeagol yes. Identical |
22:05:53 | Galik | lo track: |
22:05:54 | tracktheripper | How do you "de-compile" an AJBREC.AJZ file back to its source code? |
22:06:00 | tracktheripper | how are ya? |
22:06:11 | xam | tracktheripper edlin ajbrec.ajz |
22:06:13 | Galik | not too bad thnx and yourself? |
22:06:21 | tracktheripper | im ok |
22:06:26 | tracktheripper | sorry what u mean xam? |
22:06:41 | smeagol | xam: I give up |
22:06:45 | xam | tracktheripper that was supposed to be a joke |
22:06:47 | PsycoXul | heh |
22:06:58 | PsycoXul | smeagol: whats the problem? |
22:07:07 | smeagol | xam had a problem |
22:07:10 | xam | smeagol probably I would if my PhD project wouldn't depend on it |
22:07:17 | smeagol | had = has |
22:07:20 | PsycoXul | oh yeah |
22:07:30 | PsycoXul | xam: whats the problem? |
22:07:31 | PsycoXul | heh |
22:07:33 | PsycoXul | i'm tired |
22:08:00 | * | smeagol is gonna lurk for a while |
22:09:00 | Galik | Galik is killing people. !gameinfo for more info. |
22:09:14 | tracktheripper | oh god you are such a mass murderuer Galik :-) |
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22:14:57 | tracktheripper | ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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22:22:08 | wunsoong | elloooooo? |
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22:31:15 | xam | PsycoXul I try to compile a newer version of GNUstep on Debian/Sarge ix86 ... on the laptop with almost same installation of Debian the executables work, but if I compile it on the desktop some don't |
22:31:24 | Galik | I've stopped killing people now! |
22:31:35 | PsycoXul | xam: what error do you get? |
22:31:39 | xam | Galik glad to hear that stupid bot |
22:31:48 | xam | PsycoXul none |
22:31:56 | PsycoXul | xam: well then what happens when it doesn't work |
22:32:25 | xam | PsycoXul there is just one server that should bind itself to a port and then fork itself to the background, but apparently it doesnt |
22:32:42 | PsycoXul | apparently? |
22:32:51 | xam | PsycoXul the other server are just running fine |
22:33:06 | xam | PsycoXul okay, it doesn't bind itself to a port |
22:33:13 | PsycoXul | well is it running? |
22:33:16 | xam | ... and it hangs then |
22:33:23 | PsycoXul | hangs like how |
22:33:45 | xam | PsycoXul well, ps aux shows it up, but strace reveals it's in sigsuspend |
22:33:57 | PsycoXul | hmm |
22:34:22 | PsycoXul | any configuration stuff you forgot about? |
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22:34:58 | xam | PsycoXul definitely not. I even copied the exact same source code |
22:35:17 | xam | PsycoXul definitely not. All traces of GNUstep are gone when I recompile it |
22:35:25 | PsycoXul | heh |
22:35:40 | xam | PsycoXul I was considering it an iptalbes problem |
22:36:01 | PsycoXul | hmm |
22:36:02 | xam | but removing tables didn't work (and all policies set to yes) |
22:36:03 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
22:36:28 | PsycoXul | yeah i dunno if anything done by iptables would cause the daemon to hang |
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22:36:39 | xam | I also thought maybe there are conflicting services/daemons, but I switched them all of |
22:36:40 | wunsoong | k, just got my jukebox |
22:36:48 | wunsoong | which version of rockbox do i d/l? |
22:37:13 | Bagder | there's the boring safe approach, or the brave cool and fun approach |
22:37:23 | PsycoXul | heh |
22:37:27 | Bagder | the first being 1.4 and the second being a daily build |
22:37:43 | PsycoXul | whats so brave about the daily builds? |
22:38:07 | wunsoong | heh |
22:38:10 | wunsoong | hmmm |
22:38:19 | Bagder | PsycoXul: they may not work |
22:38:26 | wunsoong | shouldn't my computer automatically detect the jukebox when plugged in? |
22:39:00 | xam | wunsoong just if you turn the archos on ;) |
22:39:19 | wunsoong | archos is on |
22:39:48 | xam | wunsoong what OS? |
22:39:49 | wunsoong | usb symbol on archos |
22:39:52 | wunsoong | windows xp |
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22:41:21 | xam | wunsoong usually it detects a new hardware (and maybe installs some stuff), and after opening the Explorer you should see a new driver (after 10-15 Seconds delay on my PC) |
22:42:25 | wunsoong | thats wierd, nothing is happening |
22:42:28 | wunsoong | gonna try reseting |
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22:44:10 | xam | wunsoong sometimes you have to boot archos up, THEN plug in the USB cable |
22:44:15 | xam | too late |
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22:44:44 | bombadier337 | hey plays |
22:44:47 | bombadier337 | playas |
22:44:56 | bombadier337 | oops |
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22:45:37 | bombadier337 | does anyone know if you can create playlists in rockbox? |
22:46:25 | Bagder | the daily builds can |
22:46:29 | wunsoong | man... its still not working |
22:46:45 | bombadier337 | thats kool |
22:46:52 | bombadier337 | i just put 1.4 on my friends studio 20 |
22:47:00 | bombadier337 | rockbox is so tight |
22:47:05 | bombadier337 | im gettin my recorder 2morrow |
22:48:07 | Bagder | wunsoong: what archos model? |
22:48:37 | wunsoong | recorder 15 |
22:49:13 | bombadier337 | whats wrong? |
22:50:35 | wunsoong | cant get my comp to detect the jukebox |
22:51:09 | bombadier337 | do u have usb 2.0? |
22:51:15 | wunsoong | no |
22:51:23 | bombadier337 | that might be why |
22:51:25 | wunsoong | do i have to? |
22:51:29 | Bagder | no |
22:51:56 | bombadier337 | i thought u had to have a usb 2.0 controller to run a usb 2.0 device |
22:52:10 | Bagder | it is "downwards compatible" |
22:52:17 | Bagder | so you can use usb1.1 |
22:53:09 | bombadier337 | id always read u can a usb 1.1 device in a usb 2.0 port, but u cant use a usb 2.0 device in a usb 1.1 device |
22:53:47 | Bagder | I used by recorder with both 1.1 and 2.0 |
22:53:53 | Bagder | both worked just fine |
22:53:58 | Bagder | my even |
22:55:10 | Snorlax | r337> that might be why |
22:55:10 | Snorlax | <wunsoong> do i have to? |
22:55:10 | Snorlax | <Bagder> no |
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22:55:10 | Snorlax | <bombadier337> i thought u had to have a usb 2.0 controller to run a usb 2.0 device |
22:55:10 | Snorlax | <Bagder> it is "downwards compatible" |
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22:55:11 | Snorlax | <Bagder> so you can use usb1.1 |
22:55:14 | Snorlax | <bombadier337> id always read u can a usb 1.1 device in a usb 2.0 port, but u cant use a usb 2.0 device in a usb 1.1 device |
22:55:16 | Snorlax | <Bagder> I used by recorder with both 1.1 and 2.0 |
22:55:18 | Snorlax | <Bagder> both worked just fine |
22:55:20 | Snorlax | <Bagder> my even |
22:55:22 | Snorlax | ooops..' |
22:55:27 | Bagder | replay time! ;-) |
22:55:43 | Snorlax | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipodlinux/ update was what I meant to say.. |
22:56:04 | Bagder | any shocking news? |
22:56:10 | Snorlax | <wunsoong> do i have to? |
22:56:10 | Snorlax | <Snorlax> <Bagder> no |
22:56:10 | Snorlax | <Snorlax> <bombadier337> i thought u had to have a usb 2.0 controller to run a usb 2.0 device |
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22:56:10 | Snorlax | <Snorlax> <Bagder> it is "downwards compatible" |
22:56:10 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
22:56:10 | Snorlax | <Snorlax> <Bagder> so you can use usb1.1 |
22:56:10 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
22:56:10 | Snorlax | <Snorlax> <bombadier337> id always read u can a usb 1.1 device in a usb 2.0 port, but u cant use a usb 2.0 device in a usb 1.1 device |
22:56:13 | bombadier337 | neway no an approximate release day for rockbox 2.0? |
22:56:13 | Snorlax | <Snorlax> <Bagder> I used by recorder with both 1.1 and 2.0 |
22:56:15 | Snorlax | <Snorlax> <Bagder> both worked just fine |
22:56:17 | Snorlax | <Snorlax> <Bagder> my even |
22:56:19 | Snorlax | WHATTA! |
22:56:29 | Snorlax | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipodlinux/ here's the update.. |
22:56:32 | Bagder | bombadier337: nope, we don't do estimates on release dates |
22:56:40 | bombadier337 | ok, kool |
22:56:44 | Snorlax | press summary.. |
22:57:03 | Bagder | Snorlax: I don't care that much to even go there |
22:57:14 | Snorlax | no it's here!: http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ |
22:57:16 | Snorlax | yay! |
22:57:52 | Snorlax | I just so badly want Ipod Rockbox! |
22:58:04 | bombadier337 | haha, yeh |
22:58:14 | bombadier337 | im payin 25 bucks for my recorder 20 |
22:58:20 | Bagder | Snorlax: so join them and make it happen! :-) |
22:58:21 | bombadier337 | thats is soo killer |
22:58:34 | Snorlax | you rock man *with tears in my eye* |
22:58:41 | wunsoong | this sucks |
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22:58:56 | Snorlax | well my VB skills aren't so welcome I guess. |
22:59:04 | Bagder | hehe |
22:59:11 | Snorlax | my LIMITED VB skills.. |
22:59:40 | bombadier337 | heh |
22:59:52 | bombadier337 | my limited C# skills dont help either |
22:59:55 | Snorlax | what is Peizo anybody? |
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23:00:05 | bombadier337 | like piezo ignitor? |
23:00:45 | Snorlax | well no, on the ipodlinux it says that Piezo support isn't present YET.. |
23:00:53 | bombadier337 | o |
23:01:24 | Snorlax | man I gotta get starting with my studying! it 11 pm man! |
23:01:52 | bombadier337 | its 5 pm here |
23:01:54 | bombadier337 | :-) |
23:03:10 | xam | it's 10 p.m. here |
23:05:29 | bombadier337 | where u, england? |
23:06:11 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
23:06:27 | xam | bombadier aRRGLL .... nope! Ireland |
23:07:23 | xam | you can easily see that on my *.ie DNS name ;) try /whois xam next time |
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23:10:20 | wunsoong | ok the jukebox is detected now |
23:10:25 | wunsoong | wierd |
23:10:45 | wunsoong | wait wtf |
23:11:47 | elinenbe | blah! |
23:11:54 | elinenbe | blah! blah! blah! |
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23:12:58 | wunsoong | now it says |
23:13:05 | wunsoong | usb device not recognized |
23:15:01 | Jet8810 | install driver...STUDio I take it? |
23:15:29 | wunsoong | i already installed the driver |
23:15:39 | wunsoong | it was working fine, and i went into the jukebox like a hd |
23:15:49 | wunsoong | unplugged and tried again |
23:16:05 | wunsoong | not it just doesnt work again |
23:16:07 | wunsoong | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
23:20:38 | Jet8810 | reinstall it |
23:21:57 | bombadier337 | download the drivers for recorder |
23:22:11 | bombadier337 | u said u had a recorder 15 |
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23:22:15 | bombadier337 | right/ |
23:22:21 | bombadier337 | ? |
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23:23:13 | wunsoong | yeah recorder 15 |
23:23:29 | wunsoong | i installed the recorder drivers that came with the ced |
23:23:36 | wunsoong | it seems to be working now |
23:23:48 | Jet8810 | Win 98? |
23:23:51 | wunsoong | xp |
23:23:56 | Jet8810 | heh |
23:24:01 | Jet8810 | you shouldnt need drivers if its the recorder |
23:24:04 | Jet8810 | studios yea you do though |
23:24:10 | wunsoong | hmmm.. should i be worried about the unit being screwy or something? |
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23:24:23 | bombadier337 | whats it doing? |
23:25:39 | wunsoong | how it wasnt working before |
23:25:48 | wunsoong | and all of a sudden works now |
23:26:07 | Bagder | its windows, it is supposed to work on and off without anyone realizing why :-) |
23:26:48 | wunsoong | heh |
23:26:59 | wunsoong | oh well |
23:27:09 | wunsoong | do i need musicmatch software for anything? |
23:27:09 | bombadier337 | yeh windows sucks anus |
23:27:14 | bombadier337 | no |
23:27:41 | elinenbe | hey −− I have some cool facts here! |
23:28:41 | bombadier337 | yeh? |
23:29:04 | bombadier337 | lol adi is a schizo |
23:29:09 | elinenbe | ARCHOS Products sold : |
23:29:09 | elinenbe | H2 2002 : 50.000 JBMM (50% with photo/camera options) |
23:29:09 | elinenbe | Q4 2002 : 150.000 Jukebox |
23:29:09 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK elinenbe |
23:29:09 | elinenbe | H2 2002 turn over : |
23:29:09 | elinenbe | *MP3 : 51% |
23:29:10 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
23:29:10 | elinenbe | *Photo/Video : 35% (mainly JBMM) |
23:29:12 | elinenbe | *Mobile storage : 14% |
23:29:40 | Bagder | 150.000 is a lot |
23:30:04 | bombadier337 | like 150,000 or 150? |
23:30:13 | bombadier337 | sry, im american, lol |
23:30:15 | elinenbe | 150 Thousand |
23:30:19 | bombadier337 | ok |
23:33:07 | elinenbe | Zagor & Bagder: you guys here? |
23:33:14 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 33 minutes and 59 seconds at the last flood |
23:33:14 | * | Bagder raises hand |
23:33:35 | elinenbe | Archos released a new version of the Multimedia firmware with some nice improvements. |
23:34:26 | elinenbe | you can see the changelog here: www.linenberg.com/JBM1.2.0BETA.TXT |
23:34:39 | bombadier337 | may i ask why there are no ops in this channel? |
23:35:05 | Bagder | bombadier337: why not? ;-) |
23:35:08 | elinenbe | you can see the Album art ID3v2 tags in the background when a song is playing |
23:35:20 | elinenbe | bombadier337: we do not believe in hierarchy |
23:35:28 | bombadier337 | sweet |
23:35:43 | Bagder | we can become ops any time we want using the chanserv |
23:35:52 | bombadier337 | one of my good friends is an ircop on irc.peacefulhaven.net |
23:36:01 | bombadier337 | its pretty sweet |
23:36:11 | elinenbe | hmmm... they have included browsing by ID3 tags! |
23:36:20 | elinenbe | they have a database maker |
23:36:52 | Bagder | yeps |
23:37:23 | elinenbe | are you reading the changelog? |
23:37:34 | bombadier337 | ne1 ever upgraded the memory in their archos? |
23:37:47 | Bagder | elinenbe: I browsed it, yes |
23:38:02 | elinenbe | bombadier337: yes −− see the mailing list archivbe at rockbox.haxx.se for more information. |
23:38:23 | bombadier337 | no, i meant specifically ne1 here |
23:38:29 | elinenbe | Bagder: what do you think about it? |
23:38:30 | bombadier337 | i already read that |
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23:39:23 | Bagder | elinenbe: well, its a changelog, I'm not that excited |
23:39:37 | bombadier337 | Bagder: lol |
23:40:01 | wunsoong | do i still need to update the firmware on the archos website? |
23:40:25 | bombadier337 | what kind of processor does the media thing have? |
23:40:26 | Bagder | wunsoong: if you want the archos firmware, yes, then you need to get it |
23:40:34 | Bagder | a dsp thing |
23:40:38 | wunsoong | err |
23:40:43 | wunsoong | what if i want to use rockbox |
23:40:50 | Bagder | bombadier337: a TI dsp with an arm core, iirc |
23:41:12 | Bagder | wunsoong: then ignore the archos site completely, and download a rockbox from the rockbox site! |
23:41:25 | bombadier337 | Bagder: do u know the speed, i dunno if i sound stupid asking that, i no crap about dsp |
23:41:54 | wunsoong | should the jukebox still display archos os version 1.28 on startup? |
23:41:56 | bombadier337 | i read the studio/player has a 12 mhz processor |
23:42:26 | Bagder | I don't know much about the MM, but its completely different |
23:42:33 | bombadier337 | yeh |
23:42:49 | Bagder | wunsoong: yes, until it finds rockbox on disk and loads that instead |
23:42:59 | wunsoong | i already loaded rockbox |
23:43:08 | bombadier337 | rockbox is wicked, isnt it? |
23:43:15 | wunsoong | when it turn it on |
23:43:19 | Jet8810 | heh yea |
23:43:22 | * | bombadier337 directs that at wunsoong |
23:43:32 | bombadier337 | lol |
23:43:33 | Jet8810 | I am not a big linux fan, but now I appreciate open-source |
23:43:35 | wunsoong | it says os version 1.28 |
23:43:40 | wunsoong | than loads up rockbox |
23:43:42 | bombadier337 | linux is kool |
23:43:43 | Jet8810 | and the problem is? |
23:43:49 | Jet8810 | lol wunsoong...what is the issue? thats RIGHT |
23:43:53 | wunsoong | ok |
23:43:55 | wunsoong | just making sure |
23:43:57 | wunsoong | heh |
23:43:57 | bombadier337 | i wish i new how to use it better tho |
23:44:20 | bombadier337 | its hard, cuz im like windows master, linux n00b |
23:45:01 | bombadier337 | and i hate windows |
23:45:26 | wunsoong | muahahhaah rockbox is dope |
23:45:35 | bombadier337 | damn straight |
23:46:46 | wunsoong | can it read winamp playlists? |
23:46:55 | bombadier337 | m3u's |
23:46:58 | wunsoong | yea |
23:47:10 | bombadier337 | u can save a playlist as m3u in winamp |
23:47:27 | | Quit Guest ("Leaving") |
23:47:45 | Bagder | back on only one red build now |
23:49:43 | bombadier337 | is it possible to access the .rockbox directory from rockbox? |
23:49:48 | Bagder | yes |
23:49:56 | Bagder | show all files |
23:50:19 | bombadier337 | thanx |
23:53:03 | bombadier337 | y does it make a weird noise when u turn it off? |
23:54:19 | Bagder | it does? |
23:54:35 | MT | what unit? |
23:54:53 | bombadier337 | studio 20 |
23:55:02 | MT | dunno |
23:55:14 | bombadier337 | its like shjsoop |
23:55:26 | MT | on my fm it does, because there is no software poweroff, only hardware crash poweroff |
23:55:33 | MT | so the hard drive spins down |
23:55:40 | bombadier337 | and the lcd flickers a little |
23:55:50 | bombadier337 | how r u supposed to turn it off? |
23:55:57 | bombadier337 | hold stop, right? |
23:56:03 | MT | yep |