00:00:23 | bombadier337 | whats the easiest way to get a plug that fits for an ac adapter for the jukebox? |
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00:13:30 | tal | hey all |
00:13:39 | tal | question |
00:13:48 | tal | anyone awake |
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00:14:40 | tal | anyone in here alive? |
00:14:57 | Zagor | yes |
00:14:59 | tal | hi |
00:15:05 | Zagor | hi |
00:15:08 | tal | how you doin. |
00:15:13 | Zagor | tired :) |
00:15:15 | tal | lol |
00:15:20 | tal | prepare to be more tired. |
00:15:22 | tal | my shits broken. |
00:15:30 | tal | screen full black |
00:16:19 | tal | recorder 20 |
00:16:27 | tal | contrast won't help. |
00:16:41 | tal | i use rockbox, memorized how to get to the contrast setting |
00:16:42 | Zagor | do you ever see the archos boot screen? |
00:16:44 | tal | turn it to 0 |
00:16:56 | tal | the boot screen is always full black now |
00:17:10 | tal | it used to happen only in "warm" rooms |
00:17:19 | tal | i'de put the thing in the fridge for aminute |
00:17:20 | Zagor | it's a hardware error |
00:17:22 | tal | and it would work again |
00:17:25 | tal | you'resure |
00:17:29 | Zagor | yup |
00:17:34 | tal | what's the fastest replacement |
00:17:40 | tal | how do you know it's hardware |
00:17:53 | tal | you figure part of the circuit is being saturated |
00:17:59 | tal | something about the screen control |
00:18:15 | tal | that's what i think to. obviously i HOPE not, but .. yeah |
00:18:43 | Zagor | I know it's hardware because if the archos screen doesn't show up, it's not software. the archos screen cannot be changed. |
00:18:59 | Zagor | also your warm/cool description points to hardware |
00:19:38 | tal | so when people complain about contrast being too high |
00:19:51 | tal | it happens AFTER the boot screen? |
00:19:53 | Zagor | ys |
00:19:55 | Zagor | yes |
00:20:28 | tal | they're gonna ask me to mail them everything now. |
00:20:37 | tal | the .. charger, the cables, the fucking carrying case |
00:20:43 | Zagor | :-) |
00:20:47 | tal | the horrible headphones |
00:20:54 | tal | i don't know where half the stuff is. this is so unfair |
00:24:18 | tal | do you know the replacemnt policy |
00:24:34 | Zagor | no, I don't |
00:24:38 | tal | any chance i can get it done in a store? |
00:25:08 | Zagor | yeah, i guess. depends on their warranty policy, unit age and stuff like that i guess |
00:25:22 | tal | well no |
00:25:25 | tal | i got it from buy.com |
00:25:30 | tal | and their 30 day return shit is over |
00:25:33 | tal | Fuckin hell |
00:25:36 | tal | alright thanks man |
00:25:40 | tal | hardware it is then |
00:25:44 | tal | *tear* |
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00:56:13 | diddystar5 | hello |
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01:16:40 | elinenbe | LinusN: hello! |
01:17:11 | elinenbe | LinusN: you can see the new Archos changelog here: www.linenberg.com/JBM1.2.0BETA.TXT |
01:18:57 | LinusN | jbmm |
01:19:09 | elinenbe | yeah −− they have implemented ID3 browsing. |
01:19:21 | elinenbe | I think they are feeling threatened by rockbox :) |
01:19:30 | LinusN | haha |
01:19:38 | elinenbe | LinusN: you know the hardware really well. I have a question. |
01:19:40 | LinusN | gotta reboot, cu soon |
01:19:42 | LinusN | ok |
01:19:43 | elinenbe | wait! |
01:19:58 | elinenbe | is it possible to make the digital out a "headphone out" in software? |
01:20:04 | LinusN | no |
01:20:12 | elinenbe | oh - that is all. |
01:20:15 | elinenbe | darn |
01:20:28 | elinenbe | I would love to have 2 headphones plugged into the recorder. |
01:20:30 | LinusN | it is connected directly to the MAS spdif output |
01:20:36 | elinenbe | oh −− ok |
01:20:37 | elinenbe | thanks. |
01:20:41 | LinusN | use a splitter |
01:20:44 | elinenbe | go reboot! |
01:20:47 | elinenbe | I use that now. |
01:20:48 | LinusN | i will |
01:20:51 | elinenbe | :) |
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01:28:55 | elinenbe | yes! I did not think you would make it! |
01:29:00 | LinusN | :-) |
01:29:04 | elinenbe | how is your FM hacking coming along? |
01:29:10 | LinusN | back in good ol' linux |
01:29:27 | LinusN | fm hacking goes well, actually |
01:29:57 | LinusN | it is cumnersome, but the schematics are growing |
01:30:02 | LinusN | cumbersome |
01:30:25 | elinenbe | nice. |
01:30:35 | elinenbe | do they really differ that much from the Juekbox? |
01:30:52 | elinenbe | are they "smarter"? has archos gotten it's act together better? |
01:31:10 | LinusN | they have learned a few lessons yes |
01:31:21 | LinusN | much tidier pcb |
01:31:30 | LinusN | only one pcb |
01:31:35 | elinenbe | ARCHOS Products sold : |
01:31:35 | elinenbe | H2 2002 : 50.000 JBMM (50% with photo/camera options) |
01:31:35 | elinenbe | Q4 2002 : 150.000 Jukebox |
01:31:35 | elinenbe | H2 2002 turn over : |
01:31:35 | elinenbe | *MP3 : 51% |
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01:31:36 | elinenbe | *Photo/Video : 35% (mainly JBMM) |
01:31:38 | elinenbe | *Mobile storage : 14% |
01:31:45 | elinenbe | the recorder 2 PCB was a mess. |
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01:31:57 | LinusN | indeed |
01:32:04 | LinusN | this is much better |
01:32:20 | elinenbe | will the FM become your default machine? |
01:32:25 | LinusN | not too many differences though |
01:32:36 | LinusN | elinenbe: you mean like my personal jukebox? |
01:32:43 | LinusN | not sure |
01:32:52 | elinenbe | yeah. |
01:33:25 | LinusN | it is neater though |
01:33:34 | elinenbe | I just updated my recorder to a 60 gig drive. |
01:33:40 | LinusN | wow |
01:33:54 | elinenbe | the only thing that is keeping me away from the FM is the non-standard battery |
01:34:18 | LinusN | yeah, that isn't too nice |
01:34:42 | elinenbe | I know... what a pain! |
01:34:53 | LinusN | the mic is better shielded from internal noise on this one |
01:35:07 | elinenbe | LinusN: my recorder is way old though, and I only have USB 1 |
01:35:13 | LinusN | ooooh |
01:35:44 | elinenbe | it takes overnight to load it. |
01:36:14 | LinusN | 60 gigs on usb1.1 must be a pain... :-) |
01:36:34 | wunsoong | dam 60 gigs... |
01:36:38 | elinenbe | yeah, but going from 10 to 60 is so nice. |
01:36:51 | wunsoong | do you even have that much music? |
01:36:53 | Jet8810 | heh whoa |
01:36:54 | Jet8810 | 60gb! |
01:36:54 | elinenbe | I am quite impressed with the overall build of the recorder. |
01:37:00 | Jet8810 | I am fine with 20gb, and will be for awhile |
01:37:05 | wunsoong | i have like 30 gb |
01:37:08 | wunsoong | i thought i had a lot |
01:37:09 | elinenbe | I have 35 gigs (that is all my music and my girlfirends) |
01:37:14 | Jet8810 | I want to get a universal car mount for my Archos...any suggestions? |
01:38:19 | LinusN | you have your girlfriends on a hard disk? That sounds very practical. You can carry them around wherever you go. :-) |
01:39:00 | elinenbe | her MUSIC! |
01:39:19 | LinusN | aaaah :-) |
01:39:35 | elinenbe | LinusN: you are too silly |
01:39:59 | Jet8810 | heh |
01:40:20 | Jet8810 | I already have the tape adapter and the car charger and remote...entire car kit, just need a cup holder mount of some sort |
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01:56:23 | bombadier337 | does a 9vdc 800ma sound like a useable ac adapter for an archos recorder? |
01:57:24 | LinusN | sounds ok |
01:57:41 | elinenbe | bombadier337: just make sure the polarity is correct. |
01:57:44 | bombadier337 | how bout a 4.5vdb 700ma |
01:57:52 | bombadier337 | i have that 1 layin around |
01:58:11 | LinusN | 4.5v is too low |
01:58:15 | bombadier337 | crap |
01:58:16 | bombadier337 | o well |
01:58:34 | bombadier337 | u no a good place to buy an AM/AM USB cable? |
01:58:52 | LinusN | bombadier337: like elinenbe sais, be very careful with the polarity |
01:58:56 | bombadier337 | yeh |
01:59:04 | bombadier337 | its a radioshack 1, so u can change it |
01:59:19 | bombadier337 | but i no, center positive |
01:59:30 | LinusN | good |
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02:00:07 | bombadier337 | so do u no where to get a good AM/AM USB cable? |
02:02:03 | bombadier337 | i wish newegg had em |
02:04:49 | * | elinenbe wonders what Linus is soldering! |
02:05:25 | bombadier337 | ne1 here build computers? |
02:05:33 | bombadier337 | or o/c? |
02:06:03 | MT | i've done a bit of both in my time, but im not addicted, i can handle it! |
02:06:19 | bombadier337 | kool |
02:06:37 | bombadier337 | ive been buildin computers 4 a while, and just started o/c'ing |
02:06:42 | bombadier337 | its pretty kool |
02:06:48 | MT | mmmm |
02:07:04 | bombadier337 | got my athlon 2200+ running at 2400+ |
02:07:28 | MT | isnt that like, 66MHz difference? |
02:07:31 | bombadier337 | 200 |
02:07:35 | MT | er |
02:07:37 | MT | 'yeah' |
02:07:42 | bombadier337 | lol |
02:07:51 | bombadier337 | thats prob the biggest jump |
02:07:59 | MT | you know its not right |
02:08:01 | bombadier337 | like the 3000+ is like 2.13 ghz |
02:08:02 | MT | ? |
02:08:11 | bombadier337 | which is pretty lame |
02:08:27 | bombadier337 | u an intel guy? |
02:09:08 | MT | i use whatever is necessary |
02:09:16 | bombadier337 | ok |
02:09:18 | MT | i have no 'affiliation' to either |
02:09:34 | bombadier337 | i like amd, but i dont like their recent decisions |
02:09:46 | bombadier337 | but i think hammer will dominate |
02:10:09 | MT | hmm |
02:10:20 | MT | the fpu is supposed to be extremely good |
02:10:26 | bombadier337 | yeh |
02:10:38 | bombadier337 | the pincount is crazy |
02:10:52 | bombadier337 | like the sledgehammer is completely covered |
02:11:04 | bombadier337 | ive never seen nething like it |
02:11:36 | bombadier337 | but im hoping its betterthan the current stuff |
02:11:38 | MT | i dont think it will be the runaway success everyone thinks it will be |
02:11:46 | bombadier337 | barton sure wasnt |
02:12:07 | MT | i dont think you're right there actually |
02:12:11 | elinenbe | brb |
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02:12:14 | MT | barton is a very fast chip |
02:12:17 | bombadier337 | o i no |
02:12:48 | bombadier337 | but i dont see the 3000+ beating the 3.06 w/ ht |
02:12:53 | bombadier337 | like it was supposed to |
02:13:19 | MT | hmm |
02:13:32 | MT | you know the PR has nothing to do with intel's chips right? |
02:13:42 | bombadier337 | yeh |
02:13:46 | MT | barton easily performs three times faster than a tbird 1000 |
02:13:52 | MT | hence, 3000+ |
02:14:30 | bombadier337 | yeh i guess |
02:14:47 | bombadier337 | but the ranking is largely impacted by intel chips |
02:15:05 | bombadier337 | thats how they sell em |
02:15:23 | bombadier337 | but wutever |
02:15:29 | bombadier337 | lets change the subject |
02:15:57 | bombadier337 | u wrtie ne code in rockbox? |
02:16:01 | bombadier337 | write |
02:16:18 | MT | negative |
02:16:25 | MT | planning on doing so tho |
02:16:32 | bombadier337 | kool |
02:16:43 | bombadier337 | i wish i was better at programming |
02:16:55 | bombadier337 | been playin w/ c# a while |
02:17:03 | MT | c# is nice |
02:17:09 | bombadier337 | yeh, i like it |
02:17:17 | MT | a lot better than PHP for web services |
02:17:31 | bombadier337 | u use it? |
02:17:35 | MT | heh |
02:17:43 | MT | no, im doing a website in PHP atm :) |
02:17:51 | bombadier337 | kool |
02:17:56 | MT | hosting.cost++ |
02:18:21 | bombadier337 | the only "language" i actually no is html, if u can call it a language |
02:18:32 | bombadier337 | like, i mean, can do stuff with well |
02:18:51 | bombadier337 | man i sound like a 5th grader when i write |
02:21:38 | bombadier337 | well im out |
02:21:41 | bombadier337 | big test 2morrow |
02:21:44 | bombadier337 | peace |
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05:27:39 | NibbIer | ello |
05:28:26 | NibbIer | ne1 awake? |
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06:04:16 | NibbIer | :\ |
06:04:32 | * | NibbIer doesnt like those high-traffic channels. tend to block my link... |
06:05:47 | adi|home | whats up? |
06:06:22 | NibbIer | heh |
06:06:58 | NibbIer | was there any mayor new featur in the daily builds in the last 3 weeks (besides id3 tag viewer)? |
06:07:43 | adi|home | heheh umm.. i don't remember? |
06:07:45 | adi|home | :) |
06:17:48 | NibbIer | :) |
06:18:10 | NibbIer | im on vacation since then and have hardly time to check the mailing list and the webpage every day :) |
06:18:31 | NibbIer | and many of the patches i'd like to use cannot be applied to the lastest CVS code... |
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09:48:36 | dwihno | quel! :D |
09:48:40 | dwihno | quelsaruk: que nas mas? |
09:50:04 | quelsaruk | hi dwihno! que nas mas?? sorry, i'm don't speak spanish :) |
09:50:19 | quelsaruk | jar är galen! yups yups :) |
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09:53:01 | dwihno | :-) |
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09:59:08 | wunsoong | anybody here? |
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10:00:34 | quelsaruk | yups |
10:00:39 | quelsaruk | at least me |
10:03:42 | wunsoong | when you plug your jukebox into a computer, do you have to put in the cable in any particular order for it to be detected? |
10:05:35 | wunsoong | having trouble getting my comp to detect the jukebox |
10:06:19 | quelsaruk | not really |
10:07:03 | wunsoong | you dont have to plug into the jukebox first, then the computer right? |
10:07:03 | quelsaruk | i nomally have the cable plugged all day to the computer, and plug it to the jukebox if i need to |
10:09:03 | wunsoong | great... |
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10:38:14 | Zagor_ | hi |
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10:56:36 | dwihno | Zagor: how hard is it to change disk in the recorder? I'm gonna do it tomorrow night, and I am a typical electronics illiterate :) |
10:56:58 | Zagor | it's very simple. no soldering or anything. just follow the instructions on the web page. |
10:57:11 | dwihno | :-) |
10:57:26 | dwihno | Pre-formatting it is not really an issue, I presume? |
10:57:32 | Zagor | no |
10:57:37 | quelsaruk | dwihno: i changed it.. so it's not difficult |
10:59:45 | * | dwihno is not a technopriest, remember that :) |
10:59:58 | dwihno | Can I clean the dost off the LCD screen while I'm at it? |
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11:02:37 | * | quelsaruk is a galen |
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11:08:24 | quelsaruk | Zagor: do you know where i can get a PS/2 diagram... i need to know which pins supply 5V :( |
11:08:39 | Zagor | google :) |
11:08:53 | quelsaruk | i'm there :) |
11:09:16 | quelsaruk | i thought Zagor was the great guru.. but he's mortal... |
11:09:44 | Zagor | hehe |
11:11:25 | dwihno | Zagor: are there any detailed pics of the hardware with everything stripped off? |
11:11:39 | quelsaruk | if i say PS2 in google i get links for playstation 2 :) |
11:12:03 | Zagor | dwihno: yup. look in the photo section |
11:13:12 | dwihno | Zagor: ah, neato :D |
11:15:00 | dwihno | Zagor: will the LCD be exposed when disassembling the unit to replace the disk? |
11:16:50 | Zagor | define "exposed" |
11:18:17 | dwihno | Well, will I be able to clean it? :) |
11:18:26 | dwihno | Without doing anything dangerous |
11:18:39 | quelsaruk | yes |
11:18:51 | quelsaruk | you have to put away the top cover :) |
11:19:27 | dwihno | the dissecting page applies to the recorder as well? |
11:19:59 | quelsaruk | it's the same |
11:19:59 | Zagor | yup |
11:20:00 | quelsaruk | :) |
11:20:30 | quelsaruk | i made my hd mod one and a half year ago :) |
11:20:44 | * | dwihno bought his unit in may, last year |
11:20:54 | dwihno | After being convinced by Zagor and the guys |
11:21:17 | quelsaruk | you needed to be convinced? |
11:21:35 | Schnueff | and they also forced you to install rockbox |
11:21:37 | Schnueff | ? |
11:21:41 | dwihno | Haha |
11:21:45 | dwihno | They forced me to run it! ;) |
11:21:53 | * | dwihno was the first one to run it on the recorder |
11:21:59 | dwihno | On my first day as an archos owner |
11:22:27 | Zagor | dwihno was quite a hero |
11:22:33 | quelsaruk | Zagor: i you have a chance throw him your old player (without the blue corners) |
11:23:16 | dwihno | The progress has been great and fast! |
11:23:41 | dwihno | I used the archos' firmware until the end of the summer, then rockbox was good enough (i.e. had sound) ;) |
11:23:57 | * | dwihno remembers the day when Linus fixed sound *becomes nostalgic* |
11:25:36 | quelsaruk | :) |
11:25:52 | quelsaruk | i also used archos 'till august :) |
11:28:25 | dwihno | In the beginning, there was quite funny bugs |
11:28:35 | dwihno | Such as the "deleted file display" |
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12:31:34 | Zagor | what's the fastest linux ipc method? pipe? lo0 net? msg? |
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12:52:12 | webmind | re |
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13:01:03 | Hes | pipe is probably best & most lightweight for throughput |
13:01:24 | Zagor | Hes: ok, thanks |
13:01:53 | Hes | SysV IPC messages are, well, messages, not good for transferring large amounts of data... |
13:02:01 | Zagor | btw, do you know what happens to a large memory image malloced() by someone, who then forks five children and then modifies the image. |
13:02:34 | Zagor | i guess the block is copy-on-write, but does the parent get a new image or do all five children get new? |
13:03:20 | Hes | fork() is copy-on-write, I think the children get new memory space as they write |
13:03:35 | Schnueff | but parent should also, as it writes |
13:03:40 | Zagor | yes. but the children never modify the block, only the parent does |
13:03:41 | Hes | right, sure. |
13:03:57 | Hes | the parent gets new memory space as it writes. |
13:04:04 | Schnueff | so its symmetric for parent and children |
13:04:09 | Zagor | and the children all share the same physical block? |
13:04:15 | Schnueff | yes i'd guess |
13:04:21 | Hes | yes. |
13:04:22 | Zagor | woo. that's lovely. |
13:04:26 | Hes | Very. |
13:04:49 | Hes | COW is cool. Mooo. |
13:04:53 | Schnueff | mooo |
13:05:05 | Zagor | man, I just saved about a gig worth of memory waste for one of my projects... :-) |
13:05:12 | Schnueff | heh |
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13:07:07 | Mine78 | 622572 Fixed 5 linusnielsen *.cfg reading can ignore settings 2002-10-13 12:26 |
13:07:09 | Mine78 | NOT TRUE |
13:07:21 | Mine78 | SOME PARAMETERS DON'T WORK ! |
13:07:28 | Zagor | no need to shout |
13:07:28 | Schnueff | uh, don't shout |
13:07:33 | Mine78 | opss... sorry |
13:07:36 | Mine78 | caps lock |
13:07:55 | Mine78 | example: the REPEAT param |
13:08:05 | Mine78 | ask and ask once don't work |
13:08:14 | Mine78 | already sent a bugfix report |
13:08:20 | Mine78 | not yet in the list |
13:08:30 | Schnueff | 'ask' is for resume, isnt it |
13:08:40 | Mine78 | yes sorry RESUME not repeat |
13:18:43 | LinusN | Mine78: that's not the same bug |
13:29:18 | Mine78 | Did you notice it too ? |
13:30:21 | Zagor | what's a good scientific calculator for linux? i need to calc huge numbers |
13:30:40 | LinusN | no, i just pointed out that the 622572 bug is not at all the bug that you are experiencing |
13:31:05 | LinusN | the resume setting didn't even exist when that bug was fixed |
13:31:14 | Mine78 | Oh... sorry |
13:31:18 | LinusN | in the cfg files, that is |
13:31:53 | Mine78 | I suppose the cfg automatically change some memory location... maybe the wrong one for that bug I report |
13:31:58 | Mine78 | could it be ? |
13:32:46 | LinusN | perhaps |
13:34:37 | Mine78 | Zagor: http://chlug.org/calc.php |
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15:18:18 | Bagder | hey |
15:19:19 | bobTHC | servers sucks |
15:27:34 | Zagor_ | segfaults suck |
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15:37:33 | LinusN|away | fm recorder sucks :-) |
15:44:03 | Zagor | hehe |
15:59:40 | LinusN|away | it would have been so much easier if archos just gave us their schematics... |
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16:00:02 | webmind | yes |
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16:00:47 | quelsaruk | back to life... |
16:06:09 | bobTHC | archos dont want to cooperate but i dont understand why!!! |
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16:09:38 | Zagor | bobTHC: what are you trying to do? |
16:14:00 | bobTHC | just for FM schematics... |
16:14:14 | bobTHC | :) |
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16:22:04 | quelsaruk | Zagor: do you have time to talk (again) about my idea of changing the quick menu screens?? |
16:23:14 | Zagor | quelsaruk: sorry, i'm quite busy :-( |
16:23:28 | quelsaruk | grrrr.... you are afraid of me ;) |
16:23:44 | Zagor | hehe. if you can tolerate some minutes between responses, we can talk :-) |
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16:23:54 | LinusN|away | Zagor is afraid of changes :-) |
16:24:09 | tracktheripper | Hi |
16:24:14 | bobTHC | hi |
16:24:24 | tracktheripper | hi Bob |
16:24:26 | tracktheripper | :-) |
16:24:52 | quelsaruk | i have just 35 minutes... |
16:25:06 | tracktheripper | awww |
16:25:12 | quelsaruk | hi tracktheripper |
16:25:20 | tracktheripper | hi Quelsaruk |
16:25:25 | tracktheripper | Seen Sourceforge yet? |
16:26:07 | quelsaruk | when? today? no |
16:26:23 | tracktheripper | lol you should see one outrageous request :-) |
16:26:32 | tracktheripper | and no I DID NOT TYPE THAT REQUEST! |
16:26:59 | quelsaruk | which one? |
16:29:22 | bobTHC | Make the normal Recorders pick up FM like the FM recorder ? |
16:29:56 | tracktheripper | yea |
16:30:04 | Bagder | its the second one even |
16:30:19 | tracktheripper | lol i think its gonna be a popular request Badger |
16:30:29 | Bagder | people are weird |
16:30:29 | bobTHC | someone confuse hardware and software..... |
16:30:48 | quelsaruk | Bagder: will you give a t-shirt to the most weird request?? |
16:30:53 | tracktheripper | lol why don't someone just reject it and say "this is not possible to implement due to hardware limitations" |
16:31:03 | quelsaruk | if so.. can i still play? |
16:31:12 | Bagder | right, we should encorage even more weird requests |
16:31:25 | Bagder | then we won't need to develop anything, but spend all time closing feature requests |
16:31:37 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:31:39 | quelsaruk | that sounds great Bagder!! |
16:31:46 | quelsaruk | :D |
16:31:53 | tracktheripper | ok ill go first :-) |
16:32:02 | * | Bagder lets some steam out ;-) |
16:32:54 | tracktheripper | lol Badger |
16:33:22 | tracktheripper | well i do sympathise with you, you can't work miricales with firmware |
16:33:34 | quelsaruk | well.. do you know the "junkyyard wars" program at the Discovery channel? |
16:33:41 | tracktheripper | yeaa? |
16:34:09 | quelsaruk | we could ask them ot make some of the requests in this tv program :) |
16:34:17 | tracktheripper | HAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
16:34:32 | tracktheripper | ok will they do my "Auto Voice Transcribe" then? :-) ;-) :D |
16:34:58 | LinusN|away | let's assign the requests to them |
16:35:03 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:35:28 | tracktheripper | Seriously have you noticed that all the funny requests are sent by Nobody? |
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16:36:28 | tracktheripper | Someone wants RDS for the FM REcorder |
16:36:58 | bobTHC | RDS pro & EON plz!!! |
16:37:17 | LinusN|away | of course, a guy that sends such requests doesn't have a sourceforge account |
16:37:40 | bobTHC | with bip in headphone when u recieve flash news scrolled on the screen |
16:37:42 | bobTHC | :) |
16:37:49 | quelsaruk | jumss |
16:37:56 | LinusN|away | tracktheripper: it's a pity that archos didn't put in an RDS decoder |
16:38:08 | quelsaruk | i can't rolo a ajbrec.ajz anyone knows why?? |
16:38:35 | LinusN|away | rumours said that there were an rds decoder inside, but i can confirm that there isn't... |
16:38:45 | LinusN|away | quelsaruk: ??? |
16:40:18 | quelsaruk | LinusN|away: i mean.. i've downloaded joaquim's rockbox mod. that with all those UI changes. i know it works because people has talked a lot about that |
16:40:33 | quelsaruk | but i've tried to rolo it.. and i couldn't |
16:40:36 | bobTHC | yep same pb for me |
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16:41:18 | LinusN|away | quelsaruk: lots of people have complained about d/l problems |
16:41:19 | quelsaruk | said rolo... loading, descramble and continued in my own rockbox version :( |
16:41:30 | quelsaruk | umm.. |
16:41:32 | bobTHC | i rename it newui.ajz and attempt to load it, and for the first time i view the rolo error message |
16:41:32 | quelsaruk | maybe :) |
16:41:54 | quelsaruk | bobTHC: thanks god i'm not the only one here |
16:41:58 | bobTHC | :) |
16:42:14 | quelsaruk | people can't tell me _STUPID_.. or at least not quite loud ;) |
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16:43:23 | tracktheripper | stupid 56k modems :-( |
16:43:28 | quelsaruk | :) |
16:43:35 | tracktheripper | did I miss anything? |
16:43:39 | quelsaruk | ummm |
16:43:43 | quelsaruk | nothing important |
16:43:48 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:44:11 | tracktheripper | Im keen to see version 2 of Rockbox |
16:44:29 | bobTHC | me too.... |
16:44:38 | LinusN|away | me too |
16:44:41 | tracktheripper | seems like it will never come :-( |
16:44:47 | tracktheripper | just relying on the daily builds |
16:45:14 | LinusN|away | it will not come |
16:45:30 | LinusN|away | it will be coded, debugged and released |
16:45:43 | quelsaruk | debugged?? |
16:45:53 | quelsaruk | then we can wait a looong looong time |
16:45:55 | quelsaruk | ;) |
16:46:00 | tracktheripper | erm...... |
16:46:00 | tracktheripper | im lost now :-) |
16:46:19 | Zagor | tracktheripper: the daily builds *are* 2.0. there will be no difference between 2.0 and the daily build from the same day |
16:46:29 | tracktheripper | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
16:46:33 | tracktheripper | :-| |
16:46:38 | LinusN|away | quelsaruk: i know it may come as a surprise... :-) |
16:46:58 | tracktheripper | :-) |
16:47:29 | quelsaruk | have you ever thought of having me as rockbox mascot?? |
16:47:35 | quelsaruk | i'm better than goats |
16:47:42 | tracktheripper | well according to your best mate Zagor, there will be no difference between 2.0 and the daily builds :-) |
16:47:47 | tracktheripper | linus ;-) |
16:47:56 | bobTHC | zagor : u think tshirt will be ready for the 2.0 release |
16:47:57 | bobTHC | ? |
16:48:17 | Zagor | nope :) |
16:48:43 | tracktheripper | awwwwwwww |
16:48:51 | tracktheripper | you can always make ur own :-) |
16:49:09 | tracktheripper | print of the logo onto Tshirt transfer paper, then iron it on to a normal white Tshirt |
16:49:18 | bobTHC | to promote the release with a big "Rockbox 2.0 is out!!!" |
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16:50:05 | bobTHC | thx for the advice tracktheripper ...;) |
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16:50:13 | tracktheripper | ur welcome :-) |
16:50:52 | tracktheripper | and on ur very own Tshirt you could have Zagor and Linus on it as well :-) |
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16:52:06 | bobTHC | on in the back and on in the chest |
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16:52:13 | tracktheripper | yea |
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16:52:47 | tracktheripper | Zagor why don't you come and visit London? |
16:52:53 | tracktheripper | Im very keen to see you :-) |
16:53:17 | quelsaruk | tracktheripper: read FAQ ;D |
16:54:02 | tracktheripper | :-| |
16:54:04 | tracktheripper | awwwww |
16:54:15 | tracktheripper | <−−−−−− is off to read the FAQ :-) |
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16:56:12 | tracktheripper | <−−−−−−−−- has just read the FAQ ;-) |
16:56:28 | quelsaruk | :P |
16:56:33 | quelsaruk | was just kidding |
16:56:51 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:58:15 | tracktheripper | :-D |
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17:01:13 | quelsaruk | tiem to work |
17:01:16 | quelsaruk | see you later |
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17:01:48 | webmind | bye |
17:08:30 | tracktheripper | Zagor is it possible to invert the LCD so green text and symbols are shown on a black background? I would prefer that for night use where I work |
17:09:14 | Zagor | yes. there's a patch for it, i think |
17:09:42 | elinenbe | So, how are the efforts in getting FM to work on the recorder? :D |
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17:10:01 | tracktheripper | shut ur face elinenbe :-) :-) lol |
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17:10:57 | tracktheripper | yea Zagor I can see the patch |
17:11:00 | tracktheripper | how do I apply it? |
17:12:27 | bobTHC | inverted line to replace the small arrow in the browser can be good |
17:12:36 | tracktheripper | yea |
17:12:57 | tracktheripper | :-) |
17:13:43 | bobTHC | perhaps in v 2.1.... |
17:13:45 | bobTHC | ;) |
17:14:07 | tracktheripper | yea Ive downloaded the invert patch how do I apply it? |
17:14:13 | Zagor | if joaquin posts his patch and it looks good, it might be in 2.0 |
17:14:42 | bobTHC | i dont understand why he only post binary file |
17:15:03 | quel|out | he didn't know how to patch files :) |
17:15:13 | bobTHC | :) |
17:15:22 | quel|out | i mean.. to make diff |
17:15:23 | quel|out | :) |
17:15:25 | tracktheripper | can please someone help me out? |
17:15:42 | quel|out | tracktheripper, using the patch command |
17:15:54 | tracktheripper | oh cheers :-) |
17:15:57 | tracktheripper | thankx |
17:15:57 | quel|out | :) |
17:16:20 | tracktheripper | sorry to be such a pain in the backside :-) |
17:16:22 | quel|out | i don't know how to explain myself.. but... try to do so :) |
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17:30:11 | Zagor | EUREKA! |
17:30:39 | * | Bagder looks over at Zagor's corner |
17:30:40 | bobTHC | u discover how make hot water ? |
17:31:02 | Zagor | i found a bug that has been pesting me for days |
17:31:26 | Zagor | hint: when reallocing an array of struct, don't forget to change any self-referencing pointers... |
17:31:38 | * | Bagder added a web page called "How To Work With Patches" |
17:32:36 | LinusN|away | Zagor: sounds like the id3 table bug some months ago |
17:33:03 | Bagder | reallocing structs like that sure is fun ;-) |
17:33:23 | * | Bagder thinks of the dear old hostent-structs ;-) |
17:33:28 | Zagor | hehe |
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17:40:42 | tracktheripper | :)) |
17:59:40 | adi|home | lol@zagor |
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17:59:52 | adi|home | ive done similar :) |
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18:00:04 | adi|home | ive tended to hit it more in c++ though |
18:02:41 | bobTHC | by all! |
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18:07:08 | Zagor | going home |
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18:26:45 | Bagder | blast, Zagor has gone |
18:27:11 | Bagder | I bet he pretends to have a life now again |
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19:19:29 | mgjunk | hi - can sombody give me the update on the fm recorder status or is this page up to date? http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/fmstatus.html |
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19:37:38 | adi|work | ehh.. not good... |
19:37:43 | adi|work | rockbox site is down |
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19:40:34 | windchill | Hi there |
19:41:10 | windchill | Would you recommend buying an archos jukebox? |
19:41:23 | Zagor | yes, a recorder 20 |
19:41:43 | windchill | fm or not? |
19:42:12 | windchill | at the moment I own a pjb100, but its slowly falling apart... |
19:42:35 | Zagor | i'd suggest the standard rec20. i like the replacable/upgradable batteries |
19:42:55 | windchill | off course, I would only buy it because of rockbox :-) |
19:43:02 | Zagor | hehe |
19:43:42 | windchill | I read all the documentation, but I'm sure about playlist support... |
19:44:03 | windchill | does rockbox support playlist creation on the jukebox itself? |
19:44:30 | windchill | what about queing and inserting of songs into the active playlist? |
19:44:49 | Zagor | yes, but the playlist creator is rather primitive yet |
19:45:56 | Zagor | this will of course change |
19:46:17 | Zagor | queuing is fully supported |
19:46:49 | windchill | great, that was the feature that I missed most with the pjb100 |
19:47:25 | Zagor | i almost bought a pjb when they came out, but they were too hard to get in europe. |
19:47:35 | Zagor | they are the granddaddy of hd mp3 players |
19:48:22 | windchill | Yeah! I saw them on thinkgeek.org and went straight looking for it |
19:50:39 | windchill | What do you think. Is it hard to develop for the archos with limited programming skills? |
19:51:20 | Zagor | not really. we've worked hard to make the code simple |
19:52:00 | windchill | Yes, I have been looking through the code, and it seemed fairly clean... |
19:55:11 | windchill | one more questions ( I hope you dont mind): Is the USB2 cable included or would I have to buy that separately |
19:55:14 | windchill | ? |
19:55:22 | Zagor | it's included |
19:55:51 | Zagor | but the included one is kind of shortish, so depending on your desk layout you might want to get a longer one |
19:56:43 | windchill | my box is under the desk and usb ports are at the back, I'll probably have to buy a longe one then.. |
19:57:56 | Zagor | someone found this link: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=USBAA2 |
19:58:29 | Zagor | or here's an extension variant: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=USB2-10-MA-FA |
19:58:43 | adi|work | zagor was your webserver down for a few mins? |
19:58:52 | Zagor | not that I know, no |
19:58:57 | adi|work | k... |
19:59:09 | adi|work | for about 10 mins i couldn't get to the website.. must be a net prob |
19:59:25 | Zagor | sounds like it |
19:59:41 | Zagor | 7:59pm up 92 days, 6:10, 2 users, load average: 2.21, 2.28, 2.22 |
19:59:43 | adi|work | i love it.. 5$ shipping for a .95$ item :) |
19:59:46 | adi|work | ahh okay |
19:59:47 | Zagor | yeah |
19:59:50 | * | adi|work frowns |
19:59:54 | adi|work | !uptime |
19:59:56 | adi|work | grr.. |
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20:00:04 | windchill | thanks, problem is Im from Europe, too. they prob only ship to the States, right? |
20:00:05 | adi|work | 1:59pm up 23:52, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.07, 0.09 |
20:00:19 | adi|work | i have a fscked graphics card.. i think thats what keeps lockin gmy machine |
20:00:30 | Zagor | windchill: ah, ok. i guess even if they ship to europe that's an extra $10 :-) |
20:00:32 | adi|work | windchill.. do a google for AA usb |
20:00:44 | adi|work | i know there were sites in europe... |
20:00:55 | adi|work | england specifically (they listed in sterling.. ) |
20:01:14 | windchill | alright, alright. I'll have to get the rec20 first, anyway :-) |
20:02:28 | windchill | one more problem, I live in Europe but not really ( Switzerland ... |
20:03:15 | adi|work | oh, wait... we don't like your kind here |
20:03:17 | adi|work | damn swiss ;) |
20:03:23 | Zagor | but you guys have good trade relations with germany, don't you? |
20:03:30 | windchill | :-) |
20:03:33 | Zagor | there's lots of good german web shops |
20:03:55 | adi|work | id love to live in europe... |
20:03:57 | Zagor | anyway, it's a cheap cable |
20:04:07 | adi|work | here.. i drive for 12 hours and im still in the same damn country |
20:04:13 | adi|work | there.. i could cross 3 :) |
20:04:17 | windchill | yes, I think I'll be able to find one althoug many German shops will only ship to EC countries |
20:04:44 | windchill | so where are you from then? |
20:04:50 | Zagor | sweden |
20:05:04 | adi|work | united states |
20:07:52 | windchill | I think you have convinced me to get me one of these... |
20:08:04 | windchill | expect to see me more often here in the future |
20:08:34 | Zagor | welcome :-) |
20:08:56 | windchill | thanks |
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20:11:20 | Zagor | going out a few hours |
20:11:26 | | Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
20:11:32 | Bagder | Zagor|away: uh wait |
20:11:39 | | Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
20:11:40 | Zagor | ok? |
20:11:47 | Bagder | can you check why the patch.html doesn't show up? |
20:11:53 | Bagder | on the site in the docs dir |
20:12:05 | Bagder | I've committed it several hours ago |
20:12:34 | Zagor | I see it: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html |
20:12:49 | Bagder | oh, ok |
20:12:59 | Bagder | then you may go ;-) |
20:13:08 | Zagor | :-) |
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20:33:56 | quel|out | you should be having a beer or two |
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20:33:58 | quel|out | not here |
20:34:23 | Bagder | ;-) |
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20:37:20 | Bagder | any windows rockbox hackers awake? |
20:39:39 | quel|out | that's not for me no? |
20:40:00 | Bagder | you build rockbox using windows? |
20:40:11 | quel|out | yups |
20:40:14 | quel|out | well cygwin |
20:40:25 | Bagder | well, that was what I was gonna ask ;-) |
20:40:26 | quel|out | but using windoze |
20:40:44 | Bagder | I'm thinking if we should be mentioning more clearly that cygwin is the prefered way on windows, or not |
20:40:55 | quel|out | i think no one can build it using VC |
20:40:58 | quel|out | :) |
20:41:03 | quel|out | you should |
20:41:08 | Bagder | no, but with gnush |
20:41:25 | quel|out | ummm |
20:41:31 | quel|out | i builded once with gnush |
20:41:42 | Bagder | and what was your impression? |
20:41:46 | quel|out | but as i liked to create my patches.. or add strange patches... |
20:42:13 | quel|out | using cygwin was more intuitive... |
20:42:21 | quel|out | (i used to have linux) |
20:42:48 | quel|out | gnush was easy, but also cygwin is easy to use |
20:43:20 | quel|out | if you have problems, you can always download that tiny cygwin and follow the steps. |
20:43:48 | quel|out | also... using cygwin allow you to use perl scripts like binlang or uplang more easely |
20:44:11 | Bagder | yes |
20:44:49 | quel|out | Hey! i said something with sense!! |
20:45:02 | quel|out | shit.. too much swedish influence |
20:45:04 | quel|out | :D |
20:48:47 | mecraw | quel|out: are you compiling the simulator with cygwin? i'm having problems even with the new fixes |
20:52:17 | Bagder | you should talk to Henrik Backe about it |
20:53:01 | mecraw | is he ever on irc? |
20:53:09 | Bagder | I don't think so |
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21:06:22 | tracktheripper | hiiiiii |
21:07:01 | Bagder | hi |
21:07:08 | tracktheripper | hey Badger :-) |
21:07:32 | * | Bagder writes another web page |
21:07:36 | Bagder | "First-Time Guide to Rockbox Development" |
21:08:03 | tracktheripper | Badger any chance my tip for rescuing the hard drive of your Jukebox without Snoop be put on the site please? |
21:08:26 | Bagder | url? |
21:08:59 | tracktheripper | my tip which does work is to format the drive in NTFS then reformat it again as FAT32. I told someone that tip and it worked for him :-) |
21:09:28 | Bagder | well, I would need a more thorough text than just that |
21:09:47 | tracktheripper | as in how its done? |
21:10:00 | Bagder | as in what does it fix and how to fix it |
21:10:12 | Bagder | and possibly why it occurred in the first place |
21:11:21 | tracktheripper | you know point 68 in the FAQ? |
21:11:35 | tracktheripper | about Rockbox not booting and using Snoop to fix it? |
21:12:17 | Bagder | ah, yes |
21:12:34 | Bagder | but reformatting is hardly a fix people will like |
21:12:48 | tracktheripper | well you can always backup your MP3s first |
21:12:51 | Bagder | besides, why would you need to make it ntfs at all then? |
21:13:26 | tracktheripper | because when i tried doing a reformat just in FAT32 it didn't fix the problem. So I reformatted in NTFS then FAT32 and it solved the problem |
21:14:09 | tracktheripper | I just thought it may be worth a mention on the site |
21:15:35 | tracktheripper | well it just saves having to download Snoop which is shareware |
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21:16:32 | Bagder | and ntfs is only a choice for nt and 2000 users iirc |
21:16:58 | tracktheripper | well yeah, but most have 2000 and XP now |
21:17:22 | tracktheripper | like i said, i thought it may be worth included on the site |
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21:17:53 | Bagder | hey adi |
21:17:54 | * | adi|work wonders what he missed |
21:17:57 | adi|work | howdy |
21:18:04 | adi|work | whats up? |
21:18:15 | tracktheripper | hi |
21:18:17 | Bagder | I'm doing some rehaul of the docs web page |
21:18:22 | adi|work | ahh.. cool... |
21:18:31 | adi|work | i was going to update the faq to point to the patch page you added |
21:18:42 | Bagder | goodie |
21:18:49 | Bagder | I wrote a "First-Time Guide to Rockbox Development" just now |
21:19:16 | adi|work | nice |
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21:19:17 | tracktheripper | ;-) |
21:19:25 | adi|work | oh.. and you _will_ finally get the shirt tomorrow |
21:19:32 | | Part poh |
21:19:34 | adi|work | no one in the office.. and ill finally be on the big monitor |
21:19:37 | Bagder | I don't believe you ;-) |
21:19:41 | adi|work | what format do you want the image in |
21:19:45 | adi|work | hehe can't blame ya :) |
21:19:58 | Bagder | photoshop format is mighty fine |
21:20:25 | Bagder | I made the credits file show up on the web too |
21:20:30 | Bagder | it struck me it wasn't there already |
21:20:33 | adi|work | k.. then i need to install it on my win machine... and monitor swap :) |
21:20:37 | adi|work | no biggie :) |
21:20:40 | Bagder | hehe |
21:20:42 | adi|work | hmm.. true... |
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21:22:00 | Guest | can anyone point me towards a java irc client with wich I can visit freenode? |
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21:22:25 | adi|work | Bagder.. wanna add 'submitting patches' info to the patches page? |
21:22:38 | Bagder | good idea |
21:23:02 | Bagder | you add it? |
21:23:10 | adi|work | i can if you want... |
21:23:18 | Bagder | please do |
21:23:25 | adi|work | should i put detailed instructions for using the patch tracker? |
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21:23:32 | adi|work | check out the answer to ? 8 on the faq |
21:23:33 | tracktheripper | damn AOL |
21:23:38 | adi|work | last paragraph.. is that enough? |
21:23:57 | Bagder | yeah, I think that's fine |
21:24:05 | adi|work | k |
21:24:35 | Bagder | that yellow thing on the patch tracker sure is bright ;-) |
21:24:58 | adi|work | lol |
21:25:11 | * | Bagder puts his shades on |
21:25:12 | adi|work | no excuses for missing it thought :) |
21:25:34 | Bagder | nope, I hope we'll get slightly less questions on these now |
21:25:42 | adi|work | nods |
21:25:59 | adi|work | but you need to remember the oss equation |
21:26:17 | Bagder | what's that THERE IS NO ESCAPE? ;-) |
21:26:21 | adi|work | lol |
21:26:44 | adi|work | the number of questions is a inversly proportional factor of lazy users and complete documentation :) |
21:27:23 | adi|work | "its not obvious how to make a .rockbox dir under windows." |
21:27:36 | adi|work | "you obviously didn't read the FAQ." |
21:27:39 | adi|work | "why would i?" |
21:27:57 | adi|work | <this section editted for excessive LART'ing> |
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21:28:44 | adi|work | should the submitting a patch go before or after the applying a patch? |
21:28:47 | adi|work | i vote before... |
21:29:31 | Bagder | yes, before, as a part of the create section |
21:30:18 | adi|work | as part of, or as its own section? |
21:30:52 | Bagder | I think it simply could be the last paragraph in that section |
21:31:07 | adi|work | k. |
21:31:08 | Bagder | but feel free to improvise ;-) |
21:32:13 | tracktheripper | I wouldn;t mind a section step by step on how to program the firmware from scratch, to see how its done from start to finish :-) |
21:32:25 | adi|work | we have that |
21:32:33 | Bagder | the source! |
21:32:38 | adi|work | its call READ THE MAILING LIST, IRC LOGS, AND THE SOURCE! |
21:32:39 | adi|work | :) |
21:32:52 | tracktheripper | oh sorry Adi :-) |
21:33:04 | adi|work | heheh |
21:33:09 | tracktheripper | :-( |
21:33:09 | adi|work | commited |
21:33:13 | adi|work | Bagder can you update? |
21:33:17 | adi|work | or we have to wait? |
21:33:24 | tracktheripper | tracktheripper is in everyone's bad books (again) :-( |
21:33:24 | tracktheripper | lol |
21:33:25 | Bagder | I'd rather wait |
21:33:30 | adi|work | k |
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21:39:29 | Bagder | hey kargatis |
21:41:44 | kargatis | howdy |
21:42:15 | kargatis | was that a hey=hello, or a hey=you there, stop! ? :) |
21:42:40 | * | Bagder moves up a few lines and s/hey/hello |
21:44:23 | tracktheripper | adimas? |
21:47:07 | adi|work | yeah? |
21:47:42 | adi|work | Bagder: you know where the lang file is? |
21:47:50 | adi|work | i don't see it in the www tree |
21:48:21 | Bagder | lemme dig |
21:48:46 | Bagder | nah, Zagor's been naughty there |
21:48:51 | adi|work | heheh k... |
21:49:08 | adi|work | i want to add a line to it and the font page pointing out that they are Recorder specific features |
21:49:12 | adi|work | helps the FAQ a bit. |
21:49:45 | Bagder | I'll do it |
21:50:16 | Bagder | uh, the lang isn't recorder specifc |
21:50:30 | Bagder | but the fonts are |
21:51:57 | Bagder | added a line on the font page |
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22:00:25 | tracktheripper | adidmas where u from? |
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22:02:08 | Bagder | try the new http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/ |
22:04:02 | tracktheripper | oh yea can see that new link |
22:04:06 | tracktheripper | The Noble Men Behind Rockbox :-) |
22:04:29 | * | Bagder smiles |
22:04:57 | Bagder | and for some reason I'm listed as number 7 |
22:05:20 | tracktheripper | and i take it im not listed at all :-( |
22:05:20 | tracktheripper | lol |
22:05:47 | Bagder | you think you qualify? |
22:06:05 | tracktheripper | no :-( |
22:06:37 | tracktheripper | Bjorn just HAD to be number one! |
22:06:37 | tracktheripper | ;p; |
22:06:37 | tracktheripper | lol |
22:08:25 | Bagder | well, we can give him that ;-) |
22:09:03 | tracktheripper | heehee :-) |
22:10:02 | tracktheripper | i should be 1 :-) |
22:10:02 | tracktheripper | (note the sarcasm :-) ) |
22:12:28 | tracktheripper | :-P |
22:14:27 | tracktheripper | :-) |
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22:23:15 | bombadier337 | what in the debug (keep out) menu? |
22:23:22 | Bagder | try it! |
22:23:26 | Bagder | lots of debug/info stuff |
22:23:39 | bombadier337 | will it mess nething up |
22:23:43 | Bagder | no |
22:23:47 | bombadier337 | ok |
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22:24:10 | Bagder | but some things might be a bit hard to make sense of |
22:24:14 | bombadier337 | cuz i put rockbox on my friends for him |
22:24:25 | bombadier337 | like memory addresses and stuff? |
22:24:37 | adi|work | do we have and id3 info page, or a faq for it? |
22:24:41 | Bagder | try the mpeg thread one, or the battery one |
22:24:49 | adi|work | we have a quesiton in the faq tht listed 4 pieces of info for it... |
22:25:20 | bombadier337 | o, sorry, i guess ii missed those |
22:26:34 | bombadier337 | thats tight |
22:26:39 | bombadier337 | it gives u batt voltage |
22:26:56 | Bagder | even more try up/down |
22:28:35 | bombadier337 | yeh i did |
22:28:49 | Bagder | ok |
22:29:06 | bombadier337 | reminds me of my computer |
22:29:26 | bombadier337 | which it basically is neway |
22:29:53 | bombadier337 | with all the software i have monitor the power on the leads and such |
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22:36:26 | adi|work | Bagder.. im making a correction to the credits title ;) |
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22:36:47 | Bagder | that's what the cvs is for! |
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22:37:46 | mecraw | Rockbox doesn't have any noble women behind it? |
22:37:52 | Bagder | no |
22:37:57 | Bagder | not yet anyway |
22:38:05 | Bagder | still waiting for them to come onboard |
22:38:06 | adi|work | hehe no.. |
22:38:11 | adi|work | but im accounting for it :) |
22:38:22 | adi|work | "The Noble People Behind Rockbox" :) |
22:38:30 | mecraw | should the wives count? |
22:38:31 | Bagder | fair enough |
22:38:32 | mecraw | :D |
22:38:47 | Bagder | I doubt my wife would count herself in ;-) |
22:38:51 | adi|work | hehe |
22:38:54 | adi|work | my gf does :) |
22:39:04 | Bagder | we mostly sighs and walks away when I mention rockbox |
22:39:08 | Bagder | s/we/she |
22:39:10 | adi|work | "...how long are you going to sit on that computer?..." |
22:39:17 | Bagder | yeah |
22:39:27 | adi|work | "..if it makes you happy.. just wake me when your done..." |
22:39:45 | Bagder | hehe, my wife says "DONT wake me when you're done" ;-) |
22:40:08 | Bagder | that would usually be in the middle of the night |
22:40:10 | adi|work | hhehe we're not talking about sex here :) |
22:41:22 | Bagder | in that case I think I'll rest my case ;-) |
22:42:03 | adi|work | hehehe |
22:42:23 | adi|work | hmmm you think its a bit early to break out an id3 faq? |
22:43:12 | Bagder | how many questions are there for it? |
22:43:33 | bombadier337 | is there a way to display the song name before the artist in the browser |
22:43:41 | bombadier337 | or is that based of file name? |
22:43:46 | bombadier337 | and not id3 |
22:43:50 | Bagder | bombadier337: it is the plain file name |
22:43:54 | bombadier337 | ok |
22:44:02 | Bagder | using the id3 for that would be painfully slow |
22:44:03 | adi|work | there is only 1 id3 question... |
22:44:37 | bombadier337 | Bagder: yeh, it takes long enough on a real computer |
22:45:17 | bombadier337 | man i wish i could program better |
22:45:33 | Bagder | its never too late... :-) |
22:46:57 | bombadier337 | its hard 4 me to find time, between hw, and school, and work |
22:47:49 | adi|work | do you sleep? |
22:48:01 | bombadier337 | yup |
22:48:06 | adi|work | see.. thats your prob |
22:48:08 | adi|work | :) |
22:48:10 | bombadier337 | yeh |
22:48:18 | bombadier337 | i could get a lot of free time |
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22:48:35 | Melkor | hi |
22:48:39 | bombadier337 | hey |
22:48:40 | Bagder | hi |
22:48:48 | Melkor | i have a question guys |
22:48:51 | bombadier337 | were discissing pros and cons of sleeping :-) |
22:49:27 | Bagder | Melkor: shoot |
22:49:48 | Melkor | i have bought the archos recorder 20gb |
22:49:53 | Melkor | american version from amazon |
22:49:58 | Melkor | but i'm leaving in italy |
22:50:17 | bombadier337 | ok... |
22:50:22 | Melkor | what must i do for recharging here? |
22:50:39 | Melkor | different voltage |
22:50:43 | bombadier337 | get an ac adapter |
22:50:46 | Melkor | usa 110.. here 220V |
22:50:55 | bombadier337 | from a radioshack or similar store |
22:50:58 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/battery-faq.html#10 |
22:51:08 | bombadier337 | close to 9vdc 600 ma |
22:51:19 | bombadier337 | 10vdc is the best voltage tho |
22:51:31 | Melkor | yes... i saw that site |
22:51:56 | Bagder | that URL answers your q |
22:52:04 | bombadier337 | o buy an adapter so u can use the original charger |
22:52:07 | bombadier337 | or |
22:52:12 | Melkor | but it said the intensity could go to 1200mA |
22:52:42 | Melkor | and 12V |
22:52:51 | bombadier337 | i have a similar question, if i may |
22:53:11 | bombadier337 | whats better, 9vdc 300ma, or 9vcd 800ma? |
22:53:25 | * | Bagder has no clues about charging |
22:53:36 | bombadier337 | ok |
22:54:44 | Melkor | do you think that a charger with a range like this it would be good? |
22:55:14 | Melkor | 9V / 1000mA |
22:56:10 | bombadier337 | judgin by the faq, i would say the circuit in the acrhos will change it to 140ma |
22:56:21 | bombadier337 | so 1000ma seems like overkill |
22:56:27 | bombadier337 | but im no electrician |
22:56:38 | bombadier337 | will be tho :-) |
22:57:32 | Bagder | Output: 9VDC 600mA is the archos charger |
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22:58:50 | bmidy | hi all |
22:58:54 | Bagder | hi |
22:59:04 | Melkor | yes budger.. but what about the universal one? |
22:59:13 | Melkor | sorry...badger |
22:59:26 | bmidy | Bagder: is there now a planed date for the 2.0 |
22:59:28 | bombadier337 | the best is to get 10v |
22:59:35 | bombadier337 | less than 1.2 amps |
22:59:52 | Bagder | bmidy: 2.0 is planned, but we don't estimate dates |
22:59:54 | bombadier337 | i just found a 10vdc 850 ma charger, SCORE! |
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23:00:39 | bmidy | Bagder ok |
23:01:06 | bombadier337 | is it possible to go to stock firmware with rolo? |
23:01:15 | Bagder | yeps |
23:01:20 | bombadier337 | ? |
23:01:43 | bombadier337 | how> |
23:01:58 | Bagder | just name it whatever using the same extension |
23:01:59 | adi|work | read the FAQ :) |
23:02:23 | bombadier337 | the 1 programmed in the chip tho |
23:02:31 | adi|work | #32 to be specific :) |
23:02:58 | adi|work | well.. there are 3 in this scenario |
23:03:00 | adi|work | 1. rockbox |
23:03:02 | Bagder | bombadier337: to change that, you need to reflash it and we've never even attempted that |
23:03:05 | adi|work | 2. the newest archos version |
23:03:09 | adi|work | 3. chip based |
23:03:18 | adi|work | which do you want to rolo to? |
23:03:28 | bombadier337 | chip based |
23:03:38 | adi|work | can't :) |
23:03:44 | adi|work | far as i know anyway... |
23:03:50 | bombadier337 | o well |
23:04:00 | adi|work | but you can revert to the fw that came with your archos |
23:04:08 | bombadier337 | yeh i no |
23:04:13 | adi|work | k. |
23:04:29 | bombadier337 | which faq r u talkin bout tho? |
23:04:43 | bombadier337 | 32. Wait a minute here. When you released version 1.0 you did not have a single one of the ideas you have mentioned on your website actually implimented! Calling this version 1.0 is really misleading. Whats the story?! |
23:05:22 | adi|work | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#32 |
23:05:30 | Bagder | hehe |
23:06:04 | bombadier337 | thats odd |
23:06:09 | adi|work | what is? |
23:06:15 | bombadier337 | it was 33 in the one i was lookin at |
23:06:20 | adi|work | :) |
23:06:32 | adi|work | thats because i just made a change to the faq about 10 mins ago |
23:06:50 | bombadier337 | lol |
23:06:52 | adi|work | and the website just updated :) |
23:06:58 | * | adi|work is away: working |
23:07:09 | bombadier337 | well i shall leave, g'bye |
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23:29:06 | smeagol | hola |
23:29:16 | Bagder | hi |
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23:33:15 | | Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) |
23:33:30 | * | adi|work is away: home |
23:33:45 | Bagder | Zagor: check out the new docs page |
23:34:06 | Zagor | ooh |
23:34:17 | adi|work | purty |
23:34:29 | Bagder | that hacker link looks weird in my mozilla though |
23:34:40 | Zagor | in opera too. the css is probably wrong. |
23:35:16 | Bagder | off to bed, see ya manana |
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23:37:44 | smeagol | hello |
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23:44:36 | langhaarrocker | I had to resolder my jukebox lately: head phone jack broken and half of the buttons don't klick any more. |
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23:45:35 | langhaarrocker | are ther any kown problems with broken buttons? |
23:48:29 | smeagol | uhm got a ? |
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23:50:07 | smeagol | wb langhaarrocker |
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