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| 01:08:03 | jzoss | hello =) |
| 01:08:07 | LinusN | yo |
| 01:09:31 | LinusN | any fm recorder owners here? |
| 01:09:55 | jzoss | not me, and I don't know if anyone else's active... |
| 01:10:36 | LinusN | feeling lonely? :-) |
| 01:10:51 | jzoss | nah. I just hate it when I ask a question and noone responds. =) |
| 01:13:31 | LinusN | how is your id3 code going? |
| 01:13:38 | jzoss | mostly done |
| 01:13:47 | jzoss | just cleaning up a few UI things |
| 01:13:56 | LinusN | nice |
| 01:14:08 | jzoss | and then I gotta patch it against recent CVS. My version is a week or so old |
| 01:14:35 | LinusN | will there be functions to call to insert/create tags programmatically? |
| 01:15:11 | jzoss | there's a write_id3_tags function (and separate id3v1, idev2 funcs) |
| 01:15:27 | jzoss | But the current implementation always overwrites all the old tags |
| 01:15:28 | LinusN | ok, prototype? |
| 01:16:05 | jzoss | I wrote the pseudocode for one that would non-destructively only overwrite *known* tags (and leave the unknown/unsupported intact), but was too lazy to implement |
| 01:16:32 | LinusN | ok, so how does it know how much space there is for the v2 tag? |
| 01:16:32 | jzoss | write_id3_tags(fd, mp3entry) |
| 01:17:09 | jzoss | Reads id3v2 header for existing size. Will write in that size if it fits, or will dynamically resize (and shift mp3 data) if it needs more room |
| 01:17:36 | LinusN | and if there is no existing tag? |
| 01:17:43 | Jet8810 | whoa, latest daily build is nice :) |
| 01:18:07 | Jet8810 | any change that this create playlist thing for the entire hard drive can (eventually) be tweaked to allow saving of queue lists? |
| 01:18:34 | jzoss | if no existing tag, will create space using the same dynamic resizing as mentioned above. Resizing always done in some nominal (currently 500 bytes) increment, so there's as little data shuffling as necessary |
| 01:19:00 | LinusN | ok, so if no tag is found, it will create space for it? |
| 01:19:06 | jzoss | yup |
| 01:19:42 | jzoss | For new recordings, it allocates a nominal size before recording starts, so when tags are written afterwords, there's probably no data shuffling needed |
| 01:19:56 | LinusN | good |
| 01:26:08 | LinusN | forceflow2: what clock are you talking about? |
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| 02:00:25 | LinusN | ls |
| 02:00:29 | LinusN | oops |
| 02:00:33 | jzoss | hehe |
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| 02:02:52 | Joris | Hi, I posted earlier on the mailing list. I'd like to know what the AJBR20 sells for nowadays, and if anyone knows a cheap european source for it...... |
| 02:03:09 | LinusN | i have no idea |
| 02:03:38 | Joris | What did you pay for it? |
| 02:03:44 | LinusN | hmmm |
| 02:05:01 | Joris | are you still thinking or you don't remember |
| 02:05:44 | forceflow2 | holy cow people are actually here now |
| 02:05:59 | LinusN | can't really rememember, but i think it was like 300-350 euro |
| 02:06:11 | LinusN | a year ago |
| 02:06:21 | Joris | ah, i see, the lowest I've seen is 302 euro |
| 02:06:56 | LinusN | forceflow2: what clock are you talking about? |
| 02:07:08 | forceflow2 | clock? |
| 02:07:10 | forceflow2 | oh yeah |
| 02:07:15 | Joris | o'clock! |
| 02:07:15 | forceflow2 | um, one second |
| 02:07:38 | Joris | it's 2:07 at my place |
| 02:07:38 | forceflow2 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=618007 |
| 02:07:56 | LinusN | Joris: same here |
| 02:08:07 | Joris | you're in finland? |
| 02:08:11 | forceflow2 | there is a feature request for 12 and 24 hour clock functions |
| 02:08:13 | LinusN | sweden |
| 02:08:21 | LinusN | forceflow2: you have a recorder? |
| 02:08:29 | forceflow2 | oh, is it only for the recorder? |
| 02:08:41 | Joris | hehe, my girlfriend and I a spending our summer in Norway this summer |
| 02:08:43 | LinusN | yes, only the recorder has a real-time clock chip |
| 02:08:46 | forceflow2 | ah, ok then |
| 02:09:12 | forceflow2 | and I will assume that only the recorder can do an inverted LCD display? |
| 02:09:33 | LinusN | i guess so, the Player/studio LCD is of a different type |
| 02:09:43 | Joris | the recorder is "somewhat" more advanced |
| 02:09:48 | forceflow2 | should've spent the extra money.... |
| 02:09:54 | LinusN | forceflow2: indeed |
| 02:09:55 | forceflow2 | oh well |
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| 02:11:09 | tracktheripper | morning |
| 02:11:15 | Joris | hey |
| 02:11:23 | tracktheripper | Hi |
| 02:11:27 | jzoss | for you, maybe. ;) |
| 02:11:33 | jzoss | (morning, that is) |
| 02:11:47 | tracktheripper | its 1:11am UK time here |
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| 02:12:06 | jzoss | 7PM CST in USA |
| 02:12:09 | Joris | NL time is 2:12 am |
| 02:12:16 | tracktheripper | heehee:) |
| 02:12:33 | tracktheripper | just checking out Feature Requests |
| 02:13:00 | forceflow2 | hmmm...probably not gonna bother with trying and returning it, and getting the recorder, since I have already used it.... |
| 02:13:13 | Joris | Did Mr. Dragan Samardzija ever return an email, BTW (different subject) |
| 02:13:15 | tracktheripper | a Player owner wants Screen Invert as well |
| 02:13:34 | tracktheripper | Force do u own a Player? |
| 02:13:43 | forceflow2 | um, yeah |
| 02:14:11 | jzoss | forceflow2: Plenty o' peoples' AJBs have had other people's music on them. So you wouldn't be the first to return it used. =) |
| 02:14:13 | tracktheripper | If you can you should try exchanging it for a Recorder |
| 02:14:49 | tracktheripper | I returned my old Creative Labs Nomad used :-) |
| 02:15:16 | forceflow2 | hmmm....maybe I will try, the only problem is the company has outrageous shipping prices.... |
| 02:15:35 | tracktheripper | well...... |
| 02:15:48 | tracktheripper | The Recorder is a much better machine than the Player |
| 02:16:21 | LinusN | jzoss: different music on each player, or just the factory installed ones? |
| 02:17:00 | tracktheripper | Why the hell does the Player have a line-in when it does nothing whatsoever? |
| 02:17:10 | tracktheripper | Is tthe line-in just for show or something? |
| 02:17:18 | LinusN | tracktheripper: you can use it to mix the line in with the music |
| 02:17:29 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Joris |
| 02:17:29 | Joris | can you say karaoke? |
| 02:17:33 | tracktheripper | ????? |
| 02:17:36 | jzoss | LinusN: different music. Mine had a few songs and someone's email addr. |
| 02:17:45 | LinusN | jzoss: woo |
| 02:17:46 | jzoss | But only 3 songs, so I figure it wasn't heavily used. |
| 02:18:22 | forceflow2 | well, I don't even have the original firmware, guess I could get that from archos though....hmmm...maybe I will try |
| 02:18:23 | tracktheripper | Linus why wouldn't invert work on the Players? |
| 02:18:30 | forceflow2 | after my trip tomorrow though |
| 02:18:33 | jzoss | LinusN: we don't have access to audio out stream except for through MAS, right? |
| 02:18:38 | LinusN | tracktheripper: some use it to feed the computer sound output through the player, to be able to have both the computer and the archos connected to the stereo at the same time |
| 02:18:47 | tracktheripper | ohhh |
| 02:19:03 | jzoss | I was thinking of feature request for "beep" config setting (keypress, invalid func, etc)... to help guide blind navigation |
| 02:19:09 | jzoss | But I'm thinking it's not possible |
| 02:19:16 | Joris | no , no beep |
| 02:19:17 | LinusN | we can't play anything but mp3 music |
| 02:19:39 | Joris | that is not without hardware mods |
| 02:19:40 | LinusN | but we could try to insert sound into the mp3 stream, but i guess it will sound real bad |
| 02:19:46 | tracktheripper | Linus but Im sure someone has hacked the MAS for the Karaoke mode inplemented in the Daily Build |
| 02:19:54 | jzoss | right. My thoughts too. Just figured I'd ask. =) thx |
| 02:20:01 | LinusN | tracktheripper: no mas hacking there |
| 02:20:14 | tracktheripper | so how does the Karaoke mode work then? |
| 02:20:17 | LinusN | just clever usage of the channel mixer |
| 02:20:18 | jzoss | yah, simple-karaoke is pretty striaghtforward |
| 02:20:29 | tracktheripper | ohhh |
| 02:20:30 | Joris | BTW, did Mr. Dragan Samardzija ever return an email? |
| 02:20:34 | LinusN | who? |
| 02:20:40 | tracktheripper | I take it this does not work on the poor old Player!! |
| 02:20:50 | Joris | The dude that did some work on the MASC3500 DSP |
| 02:20:54 | LinusN | tracktheripper: it should, i think |
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| 02:21:15 | LinusN | Joris: i don't know anything about him |
| 02:21:18 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 02:21:37 | forceflow2 | I have karaoke on my Player |
| 02:21:42 | Joris | The name popped up in the IRC logs |
| 02:21:44 | forceflow2 | it "sorta" works |
| 02:21:58 | tracktheripper | Linus Im not sure if this has been mentioned before but can you add individual songs to playlist like the Archos firmware soon? |
| 02:22:05 | Joris | Here's a link: http://winwww.rutgers.edu/~samar/Index.html |
| 02:22:17 | LinusN | tracktheripper: nobody is working on it as far as i know |
| 02:23:08 | tracktheripper | well, the only way round it is to rename the QUEUE_FILE to myplaylist.m3u |
| 02:23:11 | tracktheripper | or something like that |
| 02:24:15 | tracktheripper | well if its not implemented I'll just keep the Archos firmware alongside Rockbox solely for playlist making and recording |
| 02:24:32 | LinusN | tracktheripper: what's wrong with rockbox recording? |
| 02:25:54 | tracktheripper | well you can only record to the root directory in Rockbox, you can't choose the filename for Recording, you can't input ID3 tags, all you get is a long alphanumeric filename created when you record, you can't see the VBR during recording..... |
| 02:26:02 | forceflow2 | Hmm...I could get the recorder for $242 (USD) with shipping....I paid about $220 for the player....Yeah, I think I will go ahead and do that when I get back from my trip |
| 02:26:17 | LinusN | tracktheripper: why is bit rate important when recording? |
| 02:26:27 | jzoss | tracktheripper: check back later this weekend. I'm uploading a patch for all those except VBR during recording |
| 02:27:00 | tracktheripper | erm, just something asthetic ((blushes)) |
| 02:27:17 | Joris | forceflow2: send me a recorder, they're much cheaper in the US! |
| 02:27:30 | Joris | :D of course |
| 02:28:11 | forceflow2 | :) |
| 02:28:41 | forceflow2 | Hmmm...I can't seem to find that little plastic piece that went over the LCD, think they will care? their site says all original packaging.... |
| 02:28:56 | Joris | or aren't you a US citizen? |
| 02:29:06 | forceflow2 | I am one |
| 02:29:22 | Joris | I assumed so |
| 02:29:31 | tracktheripper | Linus wheres your kid bro Zagor?? |
| 02:30:04 | Joris | about that plastic thingy: put some house hold PE foil on it |
| 02:31:50 | forceflow2 | hmm....the plastic packaging is ripped, think they might care? Doesn't some that it has to be unopened |
| 02:32:24 | forceflow2 | *some = say |
| 02:32:43 | LinusN | tracktheripper: i don't have a kid bro |
| 02:33:02 | LinusN | you confuse me with bagder |
| 02:33:08 | Joris | force: makes no sense to have to send it unopened |
| 02:33:12 | tracktheripper | oh sorry Linus I got you mixed up with Adimas |
| 02:33:19 | tracktheripper | my mistake |
| 02:33:20 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 02:33:40 | forceflow2 | yeah, alrighty, if they get mad that is their problem, I satisfy all the requirements on their site |
| 02:33:52 | Joris | right |
| 02:34:41 | forceflow2 | ok, by this time in two weeks I will have my recorder |
| 02:35:00 | LinusN | forceflow2: good 4 you |
| 02:35:07 | tracktheripper | Does anyone have an FM Recorder they no longer require? |
| 02:35:28 | LinusN | hehe, i have only had it for a few weeks |
| 02:35:37 | LinusN | and i still need it |
| 02:35:44 | tracktheripper | how are u finding it Linus compaared to the normal Recorder? |
| 02:35:53 | LinusN | better and worse |
| 02:36:07 | LinusN | no remote control support |
| 02:36:07 | tracktheripper | what u mean? Whats "worse"? |
| 02:36:17 | LinusN | i have yet to get the digital i/o working |
| 02:36:35 | forceflow2 | doesn't the recorder have USB 2.0 also? |
| 02:36:43 | LinusN | yes it has |
| 02:36:44 | forceflow2 | holy cow that would be useful... |
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| 02:37:09 | tracktheripper | Yea Linus but don't forget that the FM Recorder has the fantastic FM wireless built in! |
| 02:37:17 | LinusN | :-) |
| 02:37:25 | LinusN | no rds :-( |
| 02:37:41 | Joris | So what I really came looking for today is: did anyone ever get any info on the MAS' internal dsp? |
| 02:37:48 | LinusN | Joris: no |
| 02:37:49 | tracktheripper | Linus but you can manually key-in station names yourself! |
| 02:37:49 | tracktheripper | so therefore u don't need RDS! |
| 02:38:00 | Joris | bummer :( |
| 02:38:19 | LinusN | i want alternate frequency support |
| 02:38:32 | LinusN | and COMMERCIALS!!! :-) |
| 02:38:39 | tracktheripper | Just think Linus, you can record the Top 40 in super quality digital MP3 format! |
| 02:38:40 | forceflow2 | alrighty, well thanks for the chat and info. I need to go pack for my trip, so long |
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| 02:39:11 | tracktheripper | oh yea I want DAB support for the FMrec as well :-) |
| 02:40:26 | jzoss | tracktheripper: sorry for the long-time / no-response. My connection is kinda wacky |
| 02:40:27 | tracktheripper | Isn't the analogue/digital input combined on one socket on the FMRec? |
| 02:40:38 | tracktheripper | its alright Jzoss :-) |
| 02:40:40 | Joris | Can't we make a patch so all our AJBs go out at night and destroy all Creative Labs jukeboxes? |
| 02:40:52 | jzoss | patch will allow ID3 tag editing (of existing & recording) files. |
| 02:40:59 | tracktheripper | oh cool! |
| 02:41:02 | tracktheripper | can't wait! |
| 02:41:03 | jzoss | Another patch will allow custom recording filenames |
| 02:41:33 | jzoss | If you use absolute pathnames ("/myrecord.mp3"), you get centralized recordings (like now) |
| 02:41:35 | tracktheripper | Joris Ive done a patch so the Archos will give u a back massage at night :-) |
| 02:41:51 | jzoss | If you use relative pathnames ("myrecord.mp3"), you get decentralized recordings (in current dir) |
| 02:42:01 | Joris | No thanks, I've got a girlfriend capable of that ;-) |
| 02:42:16 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 02:42:43 | tracktheripper | wots wrong wiv the Creatives Joris/ |
| 02:42:58 | Joris | They're so........ big! |
| 02:42:58 | jzoss | You can use wps/sprintf-like vars ("%ti, %au, %yr, %dy, etc) to insert ID3-tag and timestamp elements into recording filename |
| 02:43:16 | tracktheripper | well have u seen the C.L. Zen? |
| 02:43:27 | Joris | yes, it doesn't record |
| 02:43:32 | Joris | I need record |
| 02:43:48 | tracktheripper | well get a C.L Nomad 3 |
| 02:44:02 | tracktheripper | can record analoge or digital, plus it can record in WAV as well as MP3 |
| 02:44:08 | Joris | No, there's no open source firmware for it |
| 02:44:21 | Joris | that's no fun at all |
| 02:44:23 | tracktheripper | you are so easy to please Joris :-) |
| 02:44:33 | Joris | explain |
| 02:44:51 | tracktheripper | just a joke :-) |
| 02:44:56 | Joris | ok |
| 02:45:08 | Joris | seriously, the CL is too big |
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| 02:45:19 | tracktheripper | well Joris at least the CL can play WAV and WMA |
| 02:45:40 | Joris | don't need wma, the wav recording capability would be nice. |
| 02:46:00 | tracktheripper | well to be honest WMA sounds downright crap compared to MP3 |
| 02:46:15 | Joris | I agree 100% |
| 02:46:15 | tracktheripper | I dunno why everyone says WMA sounds better |
| 02:46:25 | Joris | they son't know squat |
| 02:46:42 | Joris | son't = don't |
| 02:47:30 | tracktheripper | Ive compared a WMA and MP3 at 64kbs, The MP3 sounds slightly smooth, the WMA at 64kbs sounds very rough and abrasive in the treble |
| 02:48:16 | Joris | yes it's like having dolby turned on at a tape deck with a non-dolby recorded cassette tape |
| 02:48:36 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 02:48:50 | Joris | the high freqs fade in and out all the time |
| 02:48:51 | tracktheripper | WMA files hurt my ears |
| 02:48:59 | tracktheripper | yea know what u mean |
| 02:49:08 | Joris | and my sense for justice (wma=bill gates) |
| 02:49:18 | tracktheripper | MP3Pro would be good |
| 02:49:25 | tracktheripper | I like the sound quality of MP3Pro files |
| 02:49:29 | Joris | yes, mp3pro good! |
| 02:49:50 | tracktheripper | MP3Pro works by seperatly compressing the bass and treble sounds |
| 02:50:03 | Joris | but I'd still use 128 kbps for mp3pro |
| 02:50:19 | tracktheripper | I use 192kbs for my MP3s, Identical CD quality |
| 02:50:37 | Joris | I should have |
| 02:50:41 | Joris | too |
| 02:50:55 | tracktheripper | You can hear some compression artefacts at 128kbs |
| 02:51:17 | tracktheripper | at 192Kbs the sound is perfect quality. Its pointeless going above 192kbs as you hear no further improvement in sound |
| 02:51:45 | Joris | yup, but I spotted it after compressing about 75 CDs, and I'm not starting over |
| 02:51:59 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 02:52:15 | tracktheripper | What ripping codec do u use? Blade, Fraunhofer? |
| 02:52:44 | Joris | Easy cd-extractor. I've been using a Soulplayer DMP-01 so far. |
| 02:52:56 | Joris | and I think it uses blade |
| 02:53:08 | tracktheripper | oh right, I use Musicmatch since it has the Fraunhofer codec |
| 02:53:16 | tracktheripper | the Blade codec isnt good at low bitrates |
| 02:53:24 | Joris | but it's free |
| 02:53:45 | tracktheripper | well I use the Musicmatch software provided by Archos |
| 02:53:59 | Joris | and it has the Fraunhofer codec? |
| 02:54:07 | tracktheripper | yes |
| 02:54:28 | Joris | Oh then I'll be using that from now on (as soon as I get my AJBR20) |
| 02:54:29 | tracktheripper | the Fraunhofer codec is good at 128kbs but I still prefer coding at 192kbs as the sound is even better |
| 02:54:42 | tracktheripper | Just make sure u download the update after installing it |
| 02:54:54 | Joris | thanx for the top |
| 02:54:57 | Joris | tip |
| 02:55:04 | tracktheripper | no problemo |
| 02:55:33 | tracktheripper | yea Im a diehard MP3 fan, Ive owned lots of different players and tried lots of different MP3 softwares |
| 02:55:54 | Joris | which players did you own? |
| 02:56:43 | Joris | like I said, I got a Soulplayer DMP-01 cd/mp3/wma player |
| 02:56:46 | tracktheripper | My first was a Riovolt MP3-CD portable, my second was a Creative Labs Nomad, my third was an Ipod, my fourth is my current Archos |
| 02:56:59 | Joris | didn't like the Ipod |
| 02:57:00 | Joris | ? |
| 02:57:18 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 02:57:26 | tracktheripper | u can see the various machines Ive owned |
| 02:57:58 | Joris | I meant: "you didn't like the Ipod?" |
| 02:58:10 | tracktheripper | Ipod scratches too easily |
| 02:58:35 | Joris | like, it skips? |
| 02:58:41 | tracktheripper | the sound from the Ipod is rather tinny |
| 02:58:54 | tracktheripper | It doesn't skip, just dont like its sound quality |
| 02:59:21 | Joris | I've heard that before, but the archos doesn't provide much bass with headphone I've heard |
| 02:59:46 | tracktheripper | well I use a pair of Sony Fontopias and the bass is thunderous on the Rockbox firmware |
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| 03:00:10 | Joris | so rockbox improved the bass response? |
| 03:00:22 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 03:00:39 | tracktheripper | My next player may be an Archos Multimedia |
| 03:00:45 | Joris | hmm, I saw some ppl do hardware mods to get the same results |
| 03:00:54 | tracktheripper | yea I saw that as well |
| 03:01:05 | tracktheripper | at least the Archos isn't SDMI compliant |
| 03:01:36 | Joris | yea, score for archos. The multimedia doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Come on, a 1.5 inch TFT? |
| 03:02:17 | tracktheripper | well I held one and it feels quite nice in the hands |
| 03:02:17 | tracktheripper | very slim |
| 03:02:39 | Joris | but you'd need a second, larger, screen I guess |
| 03:03:06 | tracktheripper | I think the screen in the Multimedia is the older STN type, not TFT |
| 03:03:16 | Joris | even worse!!!! |
| 03:03:44 | tracktheripper | Have you compared an STN screen to a TFT? |
| 03:04:25 | Joris | yes, I have used different note books, and TFT has a much much wider viewing angle an higher contrast |
| 03:04:34 | tracktheripper | well at least wiv an STN screen you don't risk getting dead pixels like you do on a TFT |
| 03:05:06 | Joris | true, but modern TFTs hardly ever get bad pixels |
| 03:05:15 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 03:05:51 | tracktheripper | My mates laptop has a stuck on red and blue pixel and they are so aggravating to look at! |
| 03:05:52 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 03:06:24 | Joris | well, how has he handled the laptop? |
| 03:07:08 | tracktheripper | He's never mistreated it, and it does say in the instruction manual "Dead pixels are a natural defect inherent in TFT technology and are not covered by warrenty" |
| 03:07:32 | Joris | I mean, if you often put pressure on the screen, it will die more easily |
| 03:07:47 | tracktheripper | well he's never mistreated the screen |
| 03:08:03 | Joris | I see, forget what I said |
| 03:08:10 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 03:08:34 | tracktheripper | my dad's laptop has a missing blue pixel but you can only see it on a plain blue background, otherwise its not noticeable |
| 03:09:09 | LinusN | tracktheripper: how long do the batteries last on your recorder? |
| 03:09:27 | tracktheripper | mine last around 10-12 hours, why? |
| 03:09:40 | Joris | At work i got a tft. No bad pixels yet. But I used to have a CRT with a bad spot. |
| 03:09:40 | LinusN | i am curious about your bug report |
| 03:10:35 | tracktheripper | well its just that when I boot into the Archos firmware via Rolo I can use the JB for an extra hour when the battery meter in Rockbox says 9% |
| 03:10:54 | LinusN | sounds fair, 9% should be about an hour |
| 03:11:19 | tracktheripper | yea but my Archos refuses to play in Rockbox when the battery meter is 9% |
| 03:11:35 | LinusN | yeah you say so in your report |
| 03:11:36 | tracktheripper | Joris have you seen the Trinitron CRTs? |
| 03:12:09 | tracktheripper | well I thought it was a bug, I wasn't trying to be funny or anything |
| 03:12:22 | Joris | track: nope, right now I have a samsung syncmaster 19" |
| 03:13:03 | LinusN | tracktheripper: how is your Disk Poweroff setting? |
| 03:13:52 | tracktheripper | oh right, The Trinitron CRTs have 2 horizontal lines visible on the screen, these 2 lines are wires that hold the shadow mask in place |
| 03:14:09 | tracktheripper | Linus I think the Disk Poweroff is set on "Off" |
| 03:14:09 | LinusN | i hate those trinitron lines |
| 03:14:24 | LinusN | ok |
| 03:14:26 | Joris | One of the crts at work has this. I don't like it either |
| 03:14:40 | jzoss | they don't bother me. {shrug} |
| 03:14:50 | tracktheripper | yea I saw a triniton CRT in the shop, and I could never live with those lines caused by the shadow mask wires |
| 03:15:39 | tracktheripper | Jzoss so the lines in a Trinitron CRT never bother you? |
| 03:15:51 | jzoss | nope. I've got a trinitron on my desk right now |
| 03:16:08 | tracktheripper | oh right. How noticable are the shadowmask lines? |
| 03:16:09 | jzoss | I never notice them except on whiteBG. And even then, I have to explicitly look for them |
| 03:16:18 | tracktheripper | oh right |
| 03:16:30 | jzoss | I have a 17". They may be more noticeable on larger monitors, but the ones at work haven't bugged me either |
| 03:16:36 | Joris | are those lines adjustable? |
| 03:16:39 | tracktheripper | no |
| 03:16:42 | jzoss | Nope. Hardware |
| 03:17:13 | tracktheripper | they are caused by wires that hold the shadow mask in place. The wires cast shadows on the screen |
| 03:17:13 | Joris | they are actually metal wires |
| 03:17:45 | Joris | that was a question |
| 03:17:50 | jzoss | yes |
| 03:18:22 | tracktheripper | Some of the very large Trinitrons have THREE shadowmask lines! |
| 03:18:32 | Joris | i couldn't live with that |
| 03:19:10 | tracktheripper | I simulated the effect by loading a wallpaper into Paint, drawing 2 lines and setting it as a desktop wallpaper, I couldn't ignore the lines |
| 03:20:44 | jzoss | Lines are *much* smaller than 1 pixel high on my monitor |
| 03:20:56 | tracktheripper | ohhh |
| 03:20:57 | jzoss | 0.5 - 0.25 pixel (guessing) |
| 03:21:02 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 03:21:19 | jzoss | If I had a digital cam, I'd snap a pic. Oh well |
| 03:21:28 | tracktheripper | lol don't worry |
| 03:21:39 | tracktheripper | Linus what did u do with my bug report? |
| 03:22:36 | Joris | Well it's getting late. I'm off to bed. Take care! Been nice talking to you. |
| 03:22:37 | LinusN | nothing, i just go through the reports to see what bugs need to be fixed |
| 03:22:56 | LinusN | Joris: nite |
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| 03:23:18 | tracktheripper | oh right. Just thought the status was changed to "Works For Me" |
| 03:24:48 | LinusN | :-) |
| 03:25:03 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 03:25:31 | tracktheripper | it must make the sender pull their hair out that it works for you but not for them!!! |
| 03:25:34 | tracktheripper | heehee! |
| 03:25:34 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 03:26:24 | LinusN | happens all the time |
| 03:26:34 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 03:27:06 | tracktheripper | anyway Linus I have to go, nice talking to you |
| 03:27:33 | LinusN | cu |
| 03:27:51 | tracktheripper | send my regards to Zagor next time u see him :-) |
| 03:28:29 | LinusN | i will |
| 03:28:37 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 03:29:01 | tracktheripper | keep up the good work! Maybe one day all future Archos's will come wiv Rockbox as standard! |
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| 18:43:58 | PhantomDJP | hi ! |
| 18:44:20 | dwihno | hello |
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| 18:44:37 | tracktheripper | Afternoon..... |
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| 18:54:29 | tracktheripper | Is it true the FMrec now has hardware charging? |
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| 19:19:44 | dwihno | tracktheripper: Think so. |
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| 19:23:11 | tracktheripper | well I just saw a brief mention in one of the daily logs |
| 19:24:01 | tracktheripper | doubt if I should buy an FM rec after all |
| 19:25:00 | dw|gone | How come? |
| 19:25:11 | dw|gone | The only bad thing seems to be the fishy batteries. |
| 19:25:31 | tracktheripper | proprietory batteries? |
| 19:25:41 | tracktheripper | well they are Li-Ion I believe |
| 19:25:43 | dw|gone | Linus also mentioned something about the device being hard to pull apart |
| 19:25:52 | tracktheripper | which don't lose their charge like Ni-Mh |
| 19:27:19 | tracktheripper | and I think the FMRec does have a sleeker chassis than the normal Recorder |
| 19:31:04 | tracktheripper | ((sneezes)) |
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| 19:41:13 | tracktheripper | hi CGI |
| 19:42:50 | CGI163 | hi |
| 19:43:56 | CGI163 | just testing cgi-based irc client. |
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| 19:44:06 | devZer0 | :) |
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| 19:54:31 | tracktheripper | :) |
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| 20:02:29 | CGI535 | someone there who want`s to try cgi-based irc client ? bjorn pointed me to that, and today I had some time to set it up for testing. |
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| 20:06:28 | CGI535 | test |
| 20:06:56 | tracktheripper | :) |
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| 20:17:44 | CGI188 | testing testing |
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| 20:18:29 | Zagor | test |
| 20:18:33 | CGI188 | test |
| 20:18:37 | Zagor | seems to work |
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| 20:21:48 | tracktheripper | hi Zagot |
| 20:21:50 | tracktheripper | sorry Zagor |
| 20:22:17 | Zagor | hi |
| 20:22:31 | tracktheripper | hows things? |
| 20:22:53 | CGI535 | haha. i got shocked a little bit. I wondered why someone knew the url of the irc chat. I didn`t realize that Zagor == Björn :) |
| 20:23:02 | CGI535 | hi |
| 20:23:10 | tracktheripper | lol CGI |
| 20:23:26 | tracktheripper | well tracktheripper == Jason :) |
| 20:23:51 | CGI535 | :) |
| 20:24:30 | tracktheripper | heehee |
| 20:24:35 | tracktheripper | im from London |
| 20:26:11 | tracktheripper | Is version 2.0 on its way soon? |
| 20:26:12 | CGI535 | they will GET you ! :) |
| 20:26:44 | tracktheripper | What?! |
| 20:26:47 | CGI535 | if Scotland Yard won`t get you - maybe the RIAA :)) |
| 20:26:57 | CGI535 | haha |
| 20:26:58 | tracktheripper | CGI what u on about? |
| 20:27:22 | CGI535 | making some fun about your nick ;) |
| 20:27:32 | tracktheripper | well CGI I look forward for the RIAA to emerge from my PC's USB port :) |
| 20:27:39 | tracktheripper | hahahaha! i know what u mean CGI |
| 20:27:41 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 20:28:37 | tracktheripper | all you need is a magic marker and a copy of Soundforge and you are in business :) |
| 20:30:43 | CGI535 | bad times for big music industries business. a computer is a machine for copying bits. PERIOD. |
| 20:31:14 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 20:31:20 | tracktheripper | do you own a copy of Soundforge? |
| 20:31:50 | CGI535 | no - I don`t do much things with music (besides listening) |
| 20:32:13 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 20:32:30 | tracktheripper | at least the Archos is NOT SDMI compliant |
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| 20:33:46 | tracktheripper | time-stretch doesnt half sound weird comparing to changing the pitch |
| 20:33:59 | tracktheripper | <−−−− was playing wiv Timestretch in Soundforge |
| 20:33:59 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 20:34:13 | CGI535 | all that SDMI, TCPA and sort of crazy stuff like that is getting on my nerves |
| 20:34:25 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 20:34:44 | tracktheripper | I read that diehard pirates will copy music even it means "holding a microphone to the speakers" |
| 20:34:46 | CGI535 | I use atomixmp3 from time to time |
| 20:34:59 | CGI535 | nice tool |
| 20:35:03 | tracktheripper | lol prefer Soundforge myself |
| 20:36:10 | CGI535 | jason, unfortunately i have to leave for now. I`m late, anyway. |
| 20:36:18 | CGI535 | greetings to london :) |
| 20:36:22 | tracktheripper | awwwww |
| 20:36:27 | tracktheripper | nice to meet u CGI |
| 20:36:56 | MT | doesnt cgi:irc use ~ 3MB per instance? |
| 20:37:03 | CGI535 | CU. CGI ist just a default-nick of the irc-client i`m testing :) |
| 20:37:13 | tracktheripper | oh right |
| 20:37:27 | CGI535 | MT: don`t know yet. |
| 20:37:32 | CGI535 | I will check that |
| 20:37:58 | CGI535 | that wouldn`t be very good, because my vserver i`m running it on has very limited ressources |
| 20:38:41 | CGI535 | ok - have a nice evenig. happy rockboxing :) |
| 20:38:43 | CGI535 | bye |
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| 20:53:08 | tracktheripper | <−− hopes Zagor can visit London soon :) |
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| 20:55:43 | tracktheripper | Hi Jzoss! |
| 20:55:50 | jzoss | hiya, track |
| 20:56:03 | tracktheripper | how ya doing? |
| 20:56:09 | jzoss | anyone here know anything about Rockbox's stack size limits and so forth? =) |
| 20:56:25 | jzoss | Doin alright. Just workin on that patch stuff from yesterday |
| 20:56:32 | tracktheripper | oh right |
| 20:56:39 | tracktheripper | U said u was submintting a partch of some sort |
| 20:56:43 | jzoss | Right |
| 20:57:10 | jzoss | Gotta find a better way to copy file data, though... |
| 20:57:28 | tracktheripper | ohhh |
| 20:57:39 | jzoss | Right now, when I need to shift data around in the mp3 file (to make more room for ID3 tag), it only shuffles data at ~10k / sec. |
| 20:57:47 | tracktheripper | ohh ok |
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| 20:57:59 | jzoss | For a normal 5-meg MP3 file, that's like 10 minutes. :( |
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| 20:58:06 | tracktheripper | oh god Mr Ipod fan is here :) |
| 20:58:47 | tracktheripper | Archos much better than Ipod :-) |
| 20:58:49 | Zagor | jzoss: how are you shifting the data? |
| 20:59:08 | jzoss | Right now, I have a 500-byte copy buffer |
| 20:59:24 | tracktheripper | <−− is gonna have shower |
| 20:59:24 | tracktheripper | brb |
| 20:59:24 | jzoss | I do seek-to-src, read 500 bytes, seek-to-dest, write 500 bytes, etc. |
| 20:59:42 | Zagor | jzoss: and you are surprised it's slow? :-) |
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| 21:00:12 | jzoss | I thought increasing copy buffer size might help speed up transfers, but when I do, I get all sorts of weird behavior (blank screens & flashing red light, CpuAddrErr, etc). So I'm guessing there's a stack size limit I'm running into |
| 21:00:22 | Zagor | you should use as large a buffer as you can. use the mp3 buffer. |
| 21:00:33 | Zagor | yes, you can't use the stack |
| 21:00:47 | jzoss | You don't mind us mucking with the mp3 buffer for other purposes? |
| 21:01:29 | Zagor | I do, normally. But I got the impression this operation is only performed when not playing music? |
| 21:01:43 | jzoss | It's certainly a reasonable limitation, yes. |
| 21:01:54 | Zagor | then it's ok to use the id3 buffer |
| 21:02:21 | jzoss | I'll look into that, then. Any pointers on where to hunt in the code for good examples? (mpeg.c, obviously). |
| 21:02:54 | jzoss | Also, is it sufficient to check for !playing before I start abusing the buffer, or do I need a lower-level lockout? |
| 21:03:20 | Zagor | hang on a minute... |
| 21:04:12 | MT | Zagor: i was thinking of things I can code to contribute, and I came up with an idea :) |
| 21:04:18 | Zagor | look in firmware/rolo.c for example. it uses the mp3 buffer. |
| 21:04:30 | Zagor | MT: ok, what? |
| 21:04:42 | MT | the thing i miss most from a desktop player is searching a playlist |
| 21:04:51 | jzoss | thx, Zagor |
| 21:04:54 | Zagor | jzoss: you should call mpeg_stop() explicitly to make sure the buffer is not used. |
| 21:05:09 | MT | so i thought a little screen, with a 'keyboard' to enter a short string |
| 21:05:25 | Zagor | MT: like app/recorder/keyboard.c ? ;-) |
| 21:05:31 | MT | \o/ |
| 21:05:35 | MT | you guys think of everything |
| 21:05:41 | jzoss | lol |
| 21:05:58 | MT | and then search through the playlist, returning the first x results |
| 21:05:58 | Zagor | hehe |
| 21:06:22 | Zagor | a playlist search would probably be welcomed. |
| 21:06:42 | MT | okays, i'll give it a crack :) |
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| 21:10:47 | jzoss | Zagor: do I need to clear mp3buf after use, or just leave as is? |
| 21:11:01 | tracktheripper | could u add individual songs to playlist soon? |
| 21:17:25 | Zagor | jzoss: just leave it |
| 21:17:30 | jzoss | thx |
| 21:18:28 | jzoss | sorry for pestering. I just figured I'd pelt you with questions while I caught you. (pesky timezones....) |
| 21:18:50 | Zagor | no problem |
| 21:19:05 | Zagor | i'd rather you ask first than post a soddy implementation :-) |
| 21:19:18 | jzoss | no guarantees that it won't still be shoddy. =) |
| 21:19:22 | Zagor | hehe |
| 21:19:36 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 21:19:46 | jzoss | track? What makes you sad? |
| 21:20:25 | tracktheripper | my Archos has a dent in it where I dropped it |
| 21:21:00 | jzoss | some people go out and ceremonially ding their cars when they first buy them, so they won't feel bad when the inevitable "real" first-ding comes |
| 21:21:08 | jzoss | You could pretend you intended to ding it. ;) |
| 21:21:31 | tracktheripper | lol. Im not worried about the dent, im worried about causing the Archos pain :-( |
| 21:23:19 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 21:23:59 | tracktheripper | ;-) |
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| 23:26:39 | matsl | Zagor: A language capitalization question? |
| 23:27:39 | Zagor | ok? |
| 23:29:47 | matsl | Zagor: There has been a major overhaul in english.lang with big leading chars on all words. I'm not native english speaking (as you know ;-) but it seems strange to me. Is this particular thing for english or should we go for this style in all translations? |
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| 23:30:14 | Zagor | it's special for english |
| 23:30:47 | matsl | you have some reference to support this? Please enlighten me. |
| 23:33:11 | Zagor | I don't think it's formal. just yanks tend to capitalize the first character of many things, song titles etc. |
| 23:33:25 | Zagor | i haven't looked at the latest english changes though |
| 23:34:37 | matsl | well it seems to very consequent capitalize all words which might be good (to be consequent.) |
| 23:36:40 | jzoss | Zagor: I'm getting a CPUAdrEr (I09 at 0900FCF8) when I try to write out the copyBuf contents to the file. It's always at the same address. I've traced it down to the "write whole sectors" section of readwrite. Still working from there. Any ideas? =) |
| 23:37:39 | Zagor | jzoss: make sure the address is even |
| 23:37:50 | jzoss | address of what? |
| 23:38:51 | Zagor | the buffer you write |
| 23:39:25 | Zagor | we can read to odd addresses, but writes have to be even |
| 23:40:20 | jzoss | Ahhhh.... so I'm doing read-a-stripe, write-a-stripe. And I need to set up the stripe size (and offsets) so the stripe writes always happen on even boundaries? Gotchya. |
| 23:41:56 | Zagor | exactly |
| 23:42:19 | Zagor | you want to make sure to always read/write even 512 byte chunks, since that's how large a sector is |
| 23:42:32 | Zagor | if you write smaller parts, it will be slower |
| 23:42:45 | jzoss | right, but still works (ther than the even-write restriction). |
| 23:43:27 | jzoss | It's sufficient to make sure that all writes happen at an even SEEK offset, right? Don't need to check whether the file itself is aligned on an even/odd boundary. Right? |
| 23:44:39 | Zagor | no, the important thing is the buffer pointer in memory. the file position is irrelevant. |
| 23:44:47 | jzoss | cool. thx |
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| 23:57:18 | LinusN | zagor? |
| 23:57:24 | Zagor | yup |
| 23:57:39 | LinusN | i have found a problem with the fat code |
| 23:57:58 | LinusN | close() returns -113 when recording |
| 23:58:13 | LinusN | which means that fat_seek() returns -1 |
| 23:58:43 | Zagor | hmm |
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