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| 00:13:55 | Jet8810 | hrm |
| 00:14:11 | Jet8810 | technically is it illegal to rip a CD that your spouse (brother, roomate, ect) bought? |
| 00:14:39 | Bagder | it depends on your country's laws |
| 00:14:57 | Jet8810 | USOFA |
| 00:15:01 | Jet8810 | do you know laws for it? |
| 00:15:19 | Bagder | not good enough to tell for sure, no |
| 00:15:32 | Jet8810 | IMHO it is moral though...stealing music, software, TV episodes, movies ect from Kazaa is totally immoral, but I dont think that is |
| 00:15:52 | Jet8810 | even if I just used a CD that belonged to my brother...same idea only two people could use it at the same time |
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| 00:17:12 | PsycoXul | Jet8810: who knows |
| 00:17:17 | elinenbe__ | hello there. |
| 00:17:25 | tracktheripper | hi elinen |
| 00:17:28 | | Nick elinenbe__ is now known as elinenbe (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:17:34 | elinenbe | tracktheripper: hello |
| 00:17:34 | Bagder | hi Eric |
| 00:17:38 | PsycoXul | Jet8810: afaik, the RIAA'd like it to be illegal for you to rip a CD you yourself own |
| 00:17:44 | Jet8810 | heh true |
| 00:17:46 | PsycoXul | Jet8810: and it could be under the DMCA and friends |
| 00:17:51 | elinenbe | hi Daniel |
| 00:18:03 | Jet8810 | too many people use that as an excuse to steal music though (not implying that you do of course) |
| 00:18:23 | PsycoXul | i only steel music from the theifs (record companies) |
| 00:18:29 | Jet8810 | blah |
| 00:18:33 | Jet8810 | you are stealing from artists too |
| 00:18:35 | PsycoXul | if the artists were getting my $15 i'd be much more inclined to buy it |
| 00:18:37 | elinenbe | I've been wondering... what needs to be done before the 2.0 release? |
| 00:18:50 | Jet8810 | Psycho, regardless you are stealing then though and thou shalt not steal :) |
| 00:19:00 | Jet8810 | I am not gonna argue, but that is my POV |
| 00:19:02 | Bagder | elinenbe: I think we're mainly waiting for Linus' somewhat large mpeg rewrite |
| 00:19:17 | elinenbe | Bagder: nice. |
| 00:19:29 | elinenbe | everything seems to work pretty well. |
| 00:19:43 | elinenbe | there are only a few bugs I can think of. |
| 00:20:02 | elinenbe | playlist position not updating on the wps. |
| 00:20:03 | Bagder | 46 open ones |
| 00:20:08 | PsycoXul | Jet8810: yeah i understand your point of view |
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| 00:20:12 | PsycoXul | Jet8810: except on TV shows... |
| 00:20:16 | Jet8810 | heh |
| 00:20:18 | elinenbe | directory not refresing after a rename or delete. |
| 00:20:32 | elinenbe | Bagder: are you going to try and get them closed before 2.0? |
| 00:20:36 | Jet8810 | on TV shows its a bit of a more strict moral thing, I admit, but if they have a DVD collection then you should buy it before downloading episodes |
| 00:21:31 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 00:22:17 | PsycoXul | honestly i think the big corporations are much worse than i am :p |
| 00:22:24 | PsycoXul | i'm happy to steal from them |
| 00:22:31 | PsycoXul | i feel like i'm doing my part to help make the world a better place :p |
| 00:23:17 | tracktheripper | who the hell sent that "Make the Jukebox Recorder 20 make tea" request before it was removed from Sourceforge? |
| 00:23:39 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: hey thats a good idea |
| 00:23:59 | tracktheripper | someone sent it to Sourceforge but now its been removed |
| 00:26:20 | Bagder | it was rejected ;-) |
| 00:26:25 | PsycoXul | Jet8810: i also don't think it's as cut and dried as "stealing" something that costs nothing to reproduce, especialy if it's something i wouldn't have bought anyway.. they didn't lose anything :p |
| 00:26:41 | adi|work | i rejected it.. |
| 00:26:44 | adi|work | i mean.. come on.. |
| 00:26:48 | adi|work | coffee is sooo much better |
| 00:26:52 | * | adi|work pasha's |
| 00:26:54 | PsycoXul | pff coffee sucks |
| 00:27:02 | Jet8810 | heh Psyco |
| 00:27:07 | Jet8810 | my POV stands firm :) |
| 00:27:20 | tracktheripper | do you mean removed Adi? |
| 00:27:21 | PsycoXul | oh i'm not trying to change your mind |
| 00:27:25 | PsycoXul | just presenting my POV :p |
| 00:27:28 | tracktheripper | because its no longer in Sourceforge |
| 00:27:33 | adi|work | no.. i rejected it.. |
| 00:27:38 | adi|work | no.. its there ;) |
| 00:27:41 | Bagder | tracktheripper: its still there, only rejected |
| 00:27:41 | adi|work | its just closed :) |
| 00:28:00 | tracktheripper | oh right so it will be in the "Feature Requests" on this site |
| 00:28:07 | Bagder | no |
| 00:28:09 | Bagder | its closed |
| 00:28:29 | adi|work | and that'd be why i closed it ;) |
| 00:28:47 | adi|work | btw.. no response on the tld guy |
| 00:28:47 | adi|work | :( |
| 00:28:48 | tracktheripper | i was expecting it to be in Feature Request with the de rigeour "This is not possible due to hardware limitations" |
| 00:29:09 | Bagder | that's pointless |
| 00:29:14 | Jet8810 | yea Psyco, my consciouss tells me that its wrong, and my logic as well so I refuse to ignore that |
| 00:29:16 | Bagder | we have ~250 closed requests |
| 00:29:17 | adi|work | ack! |
| 00:29:22 | Bagder | we can't leave them all open |
| 00:29:44 | Jet8810 | hmm |
| 00:29:52 | Jet8810 | how about allowing saving of queue lists as playlists? |
| 00:30:03 | * | adi|work whistles innocnetly as he realizes he broke the irc loggin script |
| 00:30:46 | adi|work | bagder do you have the ability to update the irc page on the website? |
| 00:30:54 | tracktheripper | <−−- gonna have a shower |
| 00:30:57 | Bagder | not easily |
| 00:30:58 | adi|work | if not.. we won't have irclogs available till all the scripts run |
| 00:31:03 | adi|work | ahh.. okay.. then we wait |
| 00:31:11 | tracktheripper | I remember the time u rejected my "Auto Voice Transcriber " request Adimas |
| 00:31:12 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 00:31:15 | adi|work | i mistakenly left a line commented out when i was testing, and commited it... |
| 00:31:18 | tracktheripper | was soooooooo funny |
| 00:31:22 | Bagder | I |
| 00:31:26 | adi|work | :) |
| 00:31:29 | Bagder | am about to leave you know |
| 00:31:31 | Bagder | now |
| 00:31:36 | Bagder | see ya |
| 00:31:37 | elinenbe | :( |
| 00:31:40 | adi|work | later |
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| 00:31:55 | tracktheripper | "im not even gonna dignify this with consideration since u have not read the FAQ" |
| 00:31:57 | tracktheripper | heeheehee!!! |
| 00:32:19 | adi|work | :) |
| 00:32:21 | adi|work | i try :) |
| 00:32:29 | adi|work | at least im consisten |
| 00:32:32 | adi|work | consistent |
| 00:32:34 | tracktheripper | lol I was kinda drunk when I said that :-) |
| 00:32:42 | tracktheripper | ((gives Adimas a big hug)) |
| 00:32:57 | adi|work | hehehe |
| 00:33:07 | tracktheripper | gonna have shower brb |
| 00:33:38 | tracktheripper | mind you, it would be good for extracting song lyrics!!! |
| 00:39:16 | tracktheripper | back |
| 00:40:00 | PsycoXul | 6 minute shower? |
| 00:40:07 | tracktheripper | just a quick one |
| 00:40:10 | tracktheripper | was kinda hot |
| 00:40:29 | PsycoXul | what'd you do, get wet then dry off? |
| 00:40:42 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 00:40:47 | tracktheripper | no used shower gel |
| 00:40:55 | tracktheripper | I have a high-power electric shower |
| 00:41:01 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:42:08 | tracktheripper | If Rockbox could just include a few more things then it would be sorted |
| 00:44:10 | elinenbe | tracktheripper: what are you looking for? |
| 00:45:07 | tracktheripper | 1) Change the arrowcurser to the line on the "redesigned interface", 2) Add filename and ID3 tag entering for recording, 3) Add individual songs to a playlist |
| 00:45:29 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:46:04 | tracktheripper | thats all I like to see added, nothing else |
| 00:46:10 | PsycoXul | 4) add non-recursive playlist building, 5) playlist track removal, |
| 00:47:06 | PsycoXul | 6) track-group addition/removal |
| 00:47:17 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 00:47:17 | PsycoXul | and uh probably some other things :p |
| 00:47:18 | PsycoXul | for me |
| 00:47:18 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 00:47:25 | tracktheripper | What about Diagnose like on the Archos firmware |
| 00:47:32 | elinenbe | so, what you really want is a full featured playlist editor? |
| 00:47:38 | PsycoXul | elinenbe: yeah |
| 00:47:39 | elinenbe | Diagnose is shit. |
| 00:47:44 | PsycoXul | whats diagnose? |
| 00:48:14 | tracktheripper | something in the Archos firmware that checks the condition of the hard drive |
| 00:48:21 | PsycoXul | oh |
| 00:48:29 | PsycoXul | hah i think i remember that or something |
| 00:48:36 | PsycoXul | didn't seem to really do anything |
| 00:48:53 | Pete | Hi there, |
| 00:49:29 | tracktheripper | well it always said "OK" |
| 00:49:30 | Pete | I think Debug -> Runtime soes not work. |
| 00:51:21 | Pete | I play music for hours but Debug -> Runtime, Current Time shows only minutes. Am I doing something wrong? |
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| 00:55:01 | adi|work | and the feature police strike again. |
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| 00:56:10 | Pete | Any help is welcome |
| 00:59:45 | PsycoXul | one time i turned it on and went to that runtime thing |
| 00:59:48 | PsycoXul | and it said 11 minutes |
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| 01:00:13 | PsycoXul | so uh i think it's just got issues :p |
| 01:00:54 | adi|work | what are we talking about here? |
| 01:01:18 | PsycoXul | Debug->View Runtime |
| 01:01:24 | adi|work | hmm havn't used it |
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| 02:35:00 | | Join fencehouse [0] (dokewalker@adam044-052.resnet.wisc.edu) |
| 02:36:04 | fencehouse | hey I have a question about building the rockbox firmware |
| 02:36:19 | jzoss | I'll help if I can. =) |
| 02:36:27 | fencehouse | i got the cygwin thing working allright |
| 02:36:40 | jzoss | yah? |
| 02:36:48 | fencehouse | but how do I direct the configure or the make to the source code I want to build? |
| 02:37:04 | fencehouse | its building a firmware, but I don't know from where? |
| 02:37:24 | jzoss | "configure" is not a system function. It's a local script provided with the source you download |
| 02:37:45 | jzoss | So if you run configure, it'll run whatever "configure" script is in your current directory |
| 02:37:46 | fencehouse | so each source I download has its own configure? |
| 02:37:50 | jzoss | Yup |
| 02:38:38 | jzoss | Make works similarly. There *is* a system "make" program, but it doesn't usually do much on its own. Instead, each source comes with one (or more) "Makefiles". If you run "make", it reads commands from these makefiles to determine how to build the source |
| 02:38:56 | jzoss | So typing "make" reads commands from the Makefile in whatever directory you're in. |
| 02:39:14 | fencehouse | alright - thanks |
| 02:39:26 | fencehouse | i'm going to do some more playing around now |
| 02:39:27 | fencehouse | thanks |
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| 02:49:13 | Guest | hello ?! |
| 02:49:17 | jzoss | hiya |
| 02:50:05 | Guest | sorry but i'm a beginner and i want to compile uisim |
| 02:50:20 | jzoss | okay...what's your question? =) |
| 02:51:12 | Guest | error response 02 in cygwin or with msvc nmake |
| 02:51:20 | Guest | what can i do |
| 02:51:25 | jzoss | what's the error message? |
| 02:53:24 | Guest | nmake return code 0x02 |
| 02:53:46 | jzoss | yah, but above the error code, it should have a text message explaining why the compile failed... |
| 02:57:23 | Guest | ../../firmware/drivers/lcd.c(89) : error C2143: Syntaxfehler : Fehlendes ')' vor |
| 02:57:47 | Guest | translation >> syntax error missing |
| 02:58:04 | jzoss | missing ")", eh? In lcd.c line 89... |
| 02:59:37 | Guest | have ms visual c++6 (service pack 5) installed |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:29 | jzoss | so, take a look at lcd.c, line 89 and see if it looks like there's a missing ")" somewhere. Do you know any C? |
| 03:01:48 | Guest | i think the code is correce because i've compied the fimware incygwin earlier |
| 03:02:13 | jzoss | Hmmm.... well, then, I don't really know what the problem would be. Sorry. :S |
| 03:02:59 | Guest | i work with the original files downloaded |
| 03:04:02 | jzoss | I'm probably not going to be much help... I tried with cygwin and couldn't get it to work, so I'm compiling rockbox in Linux now |
| 03:04:03 | Guest | can you describe how do you comple the uisim |
| 03:04:40 | jzoss | 1) create a rockbox directory ("mkdir ~/rockbox") |
| 03:04:48 | jzoss | 2) cd ~/rockbox |
| 03:05:10 | jzoss | 3) Download latest version from CVS (or from web) |
| 03:05:38 | jzoss | 4) Create a directory for your build results ("mkdir build-sim" |
| 03:06:04 | jzoss | 5) Create a makefile for what you want ot build ("../tools/configure") |
| 03:06:13 | jzoss | 6) build the code ("make") |
| 03:06:28 | jzoss | All this assumes you've got cygwin setup correctly, with sh1 cross-compiler and all |
| 03:07:08 | Guest | same i do ( use source from download area) |
| 03:07:23 | Guest | for compiling the firmware |
| 03:07:49 | jzoss | yah, I really don't know what would cause the code to stop compiling if you're using the same code that has worked in the past... |
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| 03:08:51 | Guest | hello jzoss still there i had an error occured |
| 03:08:56 | jzoss | I'm here |
| 03:09:12 | jzoss | Are you trying to use a patch? If not, why not just use your rockbox code that compiled okay before? |
| 03:10:48 | Guest | i tried to use the makecyg.patch (in februar mailing list ) |
| 03:11:07 | Guest | + mingw-runtime |
| 03:11:24 | jzoss | hmm.. Sometimes patches screw things up if you apply them against different code than they were originally intended for |
| 03:12:09 | Guest | i tried both versions ( with and without patch) |
| 03:12:27 | jzoss | {shrug} sorry. I'm all out of ideas |
| 03:12:41 | Guest | last question |
| 03:12:50 | jzoss | 'kay |
| 03:12:57 | jzoss | I'm not sick of questions. Just out of answers. =) |
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| 03:13:37 | Guest | in the patch ther was a patch for /win32/font.c |
| 03:13:47 | Guest | but there is no file ??? |
| 03:14:32 | jzoss | that's a little odd. Does it create the file? My win32 directory doesn't have any font.c either |
| 03:15:10 | Guest | ok thats i want to hear thanks |
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| 03:18:55 | Guest | sorry i was wrong >> in the patchfile was a missing sprintf.h mentioned not font.c |
| 03:19:16 | jzoss | I do have an sprintf.h file in /uisimulator/win32 |
| 03:23:53 | Guest | does this file only comes with cvs ? (it's not in the "offical" rockbox1.4.tar.gz |
| 03:24:02 | Guest | ) |
| 03:24:14 | jzoss | I was checking a just-updated CVS install. |
| 03:24:58 | jzoss | Your patch is probably for a version more recent than the 1.4 download. That's (1.4) been around for quite a while |
| 03:29:22 | Guest | maybe |
| 03:33:30 | Guest | ok i log of, thanks for answering (have a good recollect of answers ... ;-) ) bye |
| 03:33:40 | jzoss | no prob |
| 03:33:43 | jzoss | good luck! |
| 03:33:56 | Guest | thanks |
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| 03:53:56 | jzoss | any luck? |
| 03:54:05 | Guest | YES |
| 03:54:12 | jzoss | woohoo! congrats |
| 03:54:20 | Guest | i just wann say it |
| 03:54:38 | Guest | are you interested in |
| 03:55:07 | Guest | the descripion ? |
| 03:55:12 | jzoss | sure |
| 03:55:36 | Guest | do you have msvc |
| 03:55:45 | jzoss | at work, not home |
| 03:57:27 | Guest | i have cygwin installed as described |
| 03:57:40 | jzoss | yah? And you're using msvc? Hmmm... |
| 03:58:04 | Guest | i have msvc version 6 + servicepack 5 |
| 03:58:41 | Guest | then i run E:\Microsoft visual studio\VC98\Bin\VCVARS32.BAT |
| 03:58:51 | Guest | to use nmake |
| 03:59:00 | jzoss | okay... I'm with ya so far |
| 03:59:51 | Guest | then i simply run nmake -f makefile.vc6 in cygwin shell |
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| 04:00:40 | jzoss | that's not too difficult |
| 04:00:49 | jzoss | Glad it works for you |
| 04:01:13 | Guest | i think i will post a description to the mailinglist soon |
| 04:01:31 | Guest | step by step |
| 04:01:42 | jzoss | that'd probably help people. Check 1st to make sure it's not in the docs or FAQ anywhere. |
| 04:02:11 | Guest | that thing with E:\Micros-1\VC98\Bin\VCVARS32.BAT is nowhere to read |
| 04:02:40 | Guest | this is neccesary for correct use |
| 04:03:03 | Guest | it is not enough to simple put nmake in PATH |
| 04:03:12 | jzoss | good job tracking that down |
| 04:04:29 | Guest | my problem all the time was >> using rockbox-1.4.tar.gz instead of cvs |
| 04:05:37 | Guest | i thought there is a correct version for uisimulator inside, but that version did not work |
| 04:06:33 | Guest | so thanks to you >> so i found out that i had to use cvs |
| 04:09:52 | Guest | ok bye then good night |
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| 05:04:01 | Freddyfry | Can you stand a newbie question? |
| 05:04:16 | jzoss | sure...what's up? |
| 05:04:53 | Freddyfry | I just bought a jukebox fm recorder... I am a bit confused about the "no FM" limitation |
| 05:05:19 | Freddyfry | Can i load the firmware and just not have fm capabilities? |
| 05:05:23 | jzoss | Rockbox was originally developed for players & recorders (which don't have FM). |
| 05:05:26 | jzoss | The FM support requires extra coad, which just hasn't been implemented yet |
| 05:05:32 | jzoss | But will (hopefully) eventually |
| 05:05:44 | jzoss | So you can run the Rockbox firmware and just not have FM. |
| 05:05:59 | Freddyfry | Great! I'll load it up... Thanks for your time. |
| 05:06:11 | jzoss | And you can revert to the archos firmware if you need FM support |
| 05:06:18 | jzoss | No prob |
| 05:06:28 | MT | you can get the archos firmware from their website |
| 05:06:40 | MT | its the same version as 'hard coded' in the fm |
| 05:06:43 | jzoss | yes |
| 05:06:57 | Freddyfry | revert by deleting the rockbox files? |
| 05:07:26 | MT | theres no fm functionality at all with the rockbox, i'm just happy it works :) fm will come later (after 2.0) |
| 05:07:29 | MT | yes |
| 05:07:45 | MT | or by 'playing' the archos firmware ajbrec.ajz in rockbox |
| 05:07:54 | MT | will boot the original firmware |
| 05:08:15 | Freddyfry | Thanks again, Good night. |
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| 05:09:28 | jzoss | If you rename the rockbox "ajbrec.ajz" to something different, it won't load at startup. |
| 05:09:28 | jzoss | Which is probably easier |
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| 08:09:46 | elinenbe|sleep | Bagder: hello |
| 08:09:51 | Bagder | hi |
| 08:11:18 | elinenbe|sleep | g'nite |
| 08:11:23 | Bagder | :-) |
| 08:11:26 | adi|home | ahh.. much better.. im happy with the way the irc logs look now :) |
| 08:11:28 | elinenbe|sleep | or moring in your case |
| 08:11:42 | Bagder | adi|home: yes, looks nice |
| 08:12:00 | Bagder | we could probably reverse the order of all lines though |
| 08:12:00 | adi|home | hehe i screwed it up last night :) |
| 08:12:10 | adi|home | you mean newest first? |
| 08:12:13 | Bagder | yes |
| 08:12:47 | adi|home | i dunno if i agree with you... |
| 08:13:08 | Bagder | I'm not sure eithe |
| 08:13:46 | Bagder | possibly we could put 2003 before 2002 |
| 08:13:59 | Bagder | whatever |
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| 09:50:27 | quelsaruk | hi |
| 09:50:31 | Bagder | hi |
| 09:51:27 | quelsaruk | Bagder: i'm now in t-shirt... the winter has ended :) (can you say so in Sweden?) |
| 09:51:46 | Bagder | yeah, only -3 C this morning :-P |
| 09:52:02 | quelsaruk | cool! ;) |
| 09:52:13 | Bagder | heheh, yeah that's cool indeed |
| 09:52:41 | quelsaruk | in april weather is a bit hotter?? |
| 09:52:46 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:52:53 | Bagder | but not really warm until may |
| 09:54:12 | quelsaruk | i fear what you call warm... |
| 09:54:22 | quelsaruk | for me warm is nearly 25ºC |
| 09:54:41 | Bagder | don't make me hit you ;-) |
| 09:55:18 | quelsaruk | you can't, now i'm the mascot and the techno-priest... laws protect me ;) |
| 09:55:24 | Bagder | darn |
| 09:57:02 | quelsaruk | i was wondering... do you remember that paranoic f2 screen? |
| 09:57:11 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:57:33 | quelsaruk | what about a scrolling screen? |
| 09:57:57 | Bagder | could work, more to code though |
| 09:58:17 | quelsaruk | i can try it |
| 09:58:37 | quelsaruk | the problem is not if it can or cannot work.. |
| 09:58:50 | quelsaruk | the problem is... will your brother like it? ;) |
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| 10:27:54 | Bagder | g'day |
| 10:28:54 | dwihno | Hellö! |
| 10:30:12 | dwihno | What do you guys think about using additional memory for dir caching? |
| 10:30:24 | dwihno | Imagine having the entire dir structure in memory :D |
| 10:30:34 | Bagder | honestly, I don't care |
| 10:30:49 | dwihno | :O |
| 10:30:50 | dwihno | :) |
| 10:31:36 | Zagor | dwihno: you |
| 10:31:36 | Zagor | 'd have to rewrite some major portions for that |
| 10:32:13 | dwihno | :-( |
| 10:32:33 | Bagder | I |
| 10:32:41 | Bagder | would make the fat code do the caching if I |
| 10:32:46 | Bagder | would add that feature |
| 10:33:02 | Bagder | perhaps |
| 10:33:18 | dwihno | Would it be a waste of memory? |
| 10:33:35 | dwihno | I don't even know how much memory it would consume :) |
| 10:36:17 | Bagder | cd /mnt/archos && find . -print >dump; wc -l dump |
| 10:36:26 | Bagder | or rather wc dump |
| 10:37:23 | Schnueff | moin |
| 10:41:36 | Schnueff | i thought a bit about that |
| 10:41:56 | Schnueff | what about using name_buffer and dircache in tree.c for as many dirs, as there is room for? |
| 10:42:40 | Zagor | Schnueff: you still need to rewrite it to be aware of multiple dirs |
| 10:42:43 | Schnueff | yes |
| 10:42:53 | Schnueff | i know, it's some rewriting |
| 10:43:15 | Zagor | but the idea is sound, imho |
| 10:44:20 | Schnueff | Bagder: in the fat code, u would hook in dir caching in the opendir() function? |
| 10:44:28 | Bagder | yeah |
| 10:44:38 | Bagder | then the rest of the system wouldn't need to know |
| 10:44:48 | Schnueff | and then, name_buffer / dircache in tree.c can be dropped? |
| 10:44:51 | Schnueff | or parts of them? |
| 10:44:57 | Bagder | yes |
| 10:45:04 | Schnueff | ok, that sounds good too |
| 10:45:30 | Schnueff | more generic |
| 10:45:31 | Zagor | uh, we still need the dircache in tree.c |
| 10:45:43 | Schnueff | to sort? |
| 10:45:44 | Bagder | for what? |
| 10:45:50 | Bagder | sort, yes |
| 10:45:52 | Zagor | it's used by the browser. the browser can't muck about in dir.c's buffer |
| 10:46:09 | Zagor | sorting, filtering, traversing |
| 10:46:36 | Schnueff | ok, maybe some code then between fat and tree |
| 10:46:42 | Schnueff | which could expose the data to tree.c |
| 10:49:14 | Schnueff | or trying something similar to scandir(3) |
| 10:49:55 | Schnueff | (without malloc'ing) |
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| 10:59:33 | tracktheripper | morning |
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| 11:00:01 | tracktheripper | everyone |
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| 11:39:54 | TBoy | hi |
| 11:40:12 | Bagder | hi |
| 11:40:22 | TBoy | how big is the mem on the rec fm |
| 11:41:48 | TBoy | hello |
| 11:41:54 | TBoy | does anybody know |
| 11:42:04 | Bagder | 2mb |
| 11:42:21 | TBoy | are you shure |
| 11:42:31 | TBoy | because it doesnt say that on the archos site |
| 11:42:58 | Bagder | rip it apart and check out the chips |
| 11:43:08 | Bagder | but yes, I'm pretty sure |
| 11:43:23 | TBoy | ok |
| 11:43:41 | TBoy | hey why does the java irc always diplasy |
| 11:43:52 | TBoy | unregistered copy evaluation only |
| 11:44:00 | TBoy | ask webmaster to register it |
| 11:44:20 | Bagder | and you can't figure out why it says that? |
| 11:44:50 | Bagder | it *might* be that it is an unregistered copy |
| 11:45:02 | TBoy | yeah i just thought about it now |
| 11:45:10 | TBoy | what a stupid question |
| 11:45:22 | TBoy | plees excuse myself |
| 11:45:25 | TBoy | :D |
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| 11:52:30 | TBoy | ok I now changed to mirc |
| 11:54:24 | TBoy | I'm new to Rockbox and Archos |
| 11:54:36 | TBoy | my fm should arrive today |
| 11:55:00 | TBoy | and if I use a smaller font I can fit more on the display, am I right |
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| 12:01:39 | Schnueff | yes |
| 12:02:03 | TBoy | ok thx |
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| 12:14:24 | Kuji | hallooo |
| 12:14:47 | TBoy | hi |
| 12:15:14 | Kuji | anything exciting happening.. |
| 12:15:37 | Kuji | Im in search of a tool to sort out this frigging box |
| 12:15:51 | Kuji | something to convert to a standard fat32 not XP |
| 12:15:53 | Kuji | fat32 |
| 12:16:12 | Kuji | anyone know of a formatter that doesn't use the OS to do it.. |
| 12:16:28 | Kuji | will partition magic format independently of os ? |
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| 12:25:21 | dwihno | Kuji: Think so. That paragon partition manager will also do (along with a heap of tools) |
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| 12:32:05 | Zagor | Kuji: do you have any links to information about this "xp fat32" ? |
| 12:32:28 | Kuji | zagor... hello |
| 12:32:36 | quelsaruk | Kuji: partition magic will do that |
| 12:32:42 | Kuji | well, Im formatting it with PM 7 now to see if it makes a dfference |
| 12:33:01 | Kuji | it picked up some errors that nothin else did |
| 12:33:16 | Kuji | I think the filesystem must have knackered in a weird way |
| 12:33:20 | Kuji | chkdsk found file errors |
| 12:33:23 | Kuji | scandisk passed |
| 12:33:24 | quelsaruk | imaybe :) |
| 12:33:26 | Kuji | norton passed |
| 12:33:40 | Kuji | PM7 found cross linked file and incorrect partition size |
| 12:33:54 | Kuji | halfway formatting see if this sorts the bitch |
| 12:34:54 | Kuji | oh some guy did a review of archos vs creative zen and said the zen won.. I wrote to him and suggested RB and do a re review.. heh |
| 12:36:04 | Kuji | Hoping this works.. I want to do some proper long recording of some techno and psytrance nights (about 8 hours+) and the archos firmware usually cacks out.... |
| 12:38:37 | Zagor | well we're having recording problems too at the moment |
| 12:39:11 | Kuji | well at least I can test !! if the bloody box allows me to copy files off it |
| 12:45:41 | dwihno | Zagor: I had a funky experience while biking last night. First, the unit hung while playing "Every sperm is sacred", by Monty Python... After a minute of silence (approx) it skipped into a new track (not from the beginning though). |
| 12:47:02 | Kuji | here we go |
| 12:47:08 | Kuji | FUCK |
| 12:47:16 | Kuji | still file or dir corrupted |
| 12:47:17 | Kuji | bah |
| 12:49:23 | quelsaruk | do you need a technopriest? |
| 12:49:41 | quelsaruk | i'm not too expensive ;) |
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| 12:53:55 | Zagor | dwihno: did it really hang then? solid red light? |
| 12:53:55 | Kuji_ | bahh bloody crashed machine |
| 12:55:07 | dwihno | Zagor: Didn't see, I had it in my pocket and was biking quite fast. Didn't really look close... |
| 12:55:17 | Zagor | ok |
| 12:55:33 | Kuji_ | zagor, what cluster size should it be ... its set to 16k, but there must be something wrong..anything RB creates is not transferrable |
| 12:55:35 | Kuji_ | grr |
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| 13:06:38 | Kuji | Yay fixed it |
| 13:07:09 | Kuji | reformatted AGAIN using win ME and it works... seems XP fat32 structure is not quite standard .. weird !!! |
| 13:07:14 | Kuji | fuck it . it works now.. |
| 13:45:04 | Bagder | ok amp let me out |
| 13:58:15 | quelsaruk | lunch time! |
| 13:58:19 | quelsaruk | cu later! |
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| 14:11:34 | dwihno | Zagor: I got more testing coming up from my latest bike ride ;D |
| 14:12:38 | dwihno | Zagor: The music went silent, still updating the progress... Went into the mpeg meter thing and noticed the music coming back before disk spin up |
| 14:13:07 | Zagor | :-) |
| 14:13:18 | Zagor | dwihno: but no red led? |
| 14:13:21 | dwihno | Nope |
| 14:13:24 | dwihno | Not this time |
| 14:13:33 | Zagor | good. then I can blame Linus :) |
| 14:13:34 | dwihno | I guess this is what happened on sunday |
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| 14:57:13 | Bagder | interesting fat fix from linus |
| 14:57:22 | dwihno | Fat fix (tm) ` |
| 14:57:23 | dwihno | ? |
| 14:57:30 | Kuji | cool |
| 14:57:57 | Zagor | goodie! |
| 14:58:22 | Kuji | the recording.. just had first experience.. |
| 14:58:29 | Kuji | did 1 hour, only recorded 30mins.. |
| 14:58:42 | Kuji | where are the bugs listed |
| 14:59:16 | Zagor | Kuji: grab the bleeding edge build that appears in a few minutes |
| 14:59:23 | Kuji | ok |
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| 15:04:07 | Kuji | what does the latest fix |
| 15:04:36 | Zagor | a file system bug |
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| 15:04:48 | dwihno | Major bug? |
| 15:04:52 | Zagor | yup |
| 15:04:55 | dwihno | Red LED dead fix? |
| 15:05:07 | dwihno | (sorry, had to come up with a catchy name) :) |
| 15:05:09 | Zagor | nono, major |
| 15:05:14 | Zagor | the recording bug |
| 15:05:20 | dwihno | :O |
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| 15:06:08 | dwihno | :O |
| 15:06:15 | dwihno | The 13:50 commit? |
| 15:06:32 | Bagder | yes |
| 15:06:36 | Zagor | available now |
| 15:06:43 | Zagor | http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recorder/ajbrec.ajz |
| 15:06:57 | dwihno | neato |
| 15:07:17 | dwihno | (though I only used recording once, during this summer when I appeared on a radio show) :) |
| 15:07:35 | Kuji | I will give it a try see if recording any better !! |
| 15:07:43 | Zagor | Kuji: good |
| 15:12:23 | dwihno | Hmm |
| 15:14:33 | dwihno | minor bug, major crash :-) |
| 15:14:57 | Kuji | recording no |
| 15:14:58 | Kuji | w |
| 15:15:05 | Kuji | back in a hour or so |
| 15:49:05 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 15:49:05 | * | Bagder detects every single linux distro mailing their advisories about sendmail |
| 15:49:18 | Bagder | the joy of plularism |
| 15:49:29 | * | Bagder can't type and should stop trying |
| 15:49:38 | dwihno | Yet another root exploit huh? |
| 15:49:42 | Bagder | yeah |
| 15:49:55 | dwihno | I'm not surprised |
| 15:49:59 | Bagder | me neither |
| 15:50:06 | dwihno | I should alert the admins |
| 15:50:17 | * | PsycoXul uses qmail |
| 15:50:28 | dwihno | I used postfix when I did mail stuff ages ago |
| 15:54:23 | Bagder | I just find it annoying that every single distro need to send out their own adviosory |
| 15:55:24 | dwihno | *nods* |
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| 16:07:17 | Kuji | just stopped recording... |
| 16:07:20 | Kuji | checking... |
| 16:07:51 | Kuji | well time recorded is wrong to start... -14 mins.. |
| 16:07:52 | * | Bagder watches |
| 16:07:58 | Kuji | ok.. |
| 16:08:03 | Kuji | goes beyond end point |
| 16:08:08 | Kuji | will reencode |
| 16:09:25 | * | dwihno enters SLEEP mode to preserve the power. |
| 16:09:48 | * | Bagder downloads the ui mod patch |
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| 16:10:10 | * | dwihno sends a valium to Bagder to prevent shock |
| 16:10:12 | Bagder | an 84KB monster |
| 16:10:25 | Kuji | is there a quicker way to get a correct header than reencoding ? |
| 16:10:42 | dwihno | Kuji: Linus is working on Xing header stuff, afaik |
| 16:10:54 | dwihno | and VBRI (I think) |
| 16:10:59 | Bagder | a program that fixes the xing header wouldn't need to re-encode |
| 16:11:09 | Kuji | any suggestions. |
| 16:11:14 | Bagder | sorry, no |
| 16:11:16 | Kuji | heh |
| 16:11:21 | Bagder | I'm just speaking theoreticly |
| 16:12:55 | Kuji | dum dee dum... |
| 16:13:36 | * | Bagder ehums |
| 16:13:41 | dwihno | Melodie MC - Dum da dum |
| 16:13:44 | Bagder | lcd_invertrect(x,MARGIN_Y+y*8,112,8); |
| 16:13:57 | Bagder | that'll not be nice with non-8 pixels fonts |
| 16:14:13 | dwihno | Bagder: please add a cursor invert patch :D |
| 16:14:34 | Kuji | recorded length @ 52mins ... mp3 length 38 mins |
| 16:14:36 | Bagder | my plan is to see what we can use from this package |
| 16:14:59 | dwihno | Bagder: is the plan top secret? Do I have to call Mr. Phelps? |
| 16:15:13 | Zagor | Kuji: but at least the file system works :-) |
| 16:15:24 | Kuji | weird−− is also refusing to charge battery with bleeding edge |
| 16:15:26 | Bagder | it is not top secret that I have doubts on this huge kind of bloat-patch in one single go |
| 16:15:57 | dwihno | The bigger, the better? :) |
| 16:16:05 | Bagder | after ~200 lines, I already know we can't use it as-is |
| 16:16:20 | Bagder | it is very naive |
| 16:16:53 | Kuji | hmm I think it IS charging, but the charge graphic isnt updating.. its stuck on the last booted power numeric |
| 16:17:16 | Kuji | when I rebooted the number had gone up... but it aint moving now again.. |
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| 16:26:56 | Zagor | Kuji: you don't have "deep discharge" on, do you? |
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| 16:31:56 | Bagder | I think the ui mod patch has three good parts |
| 16:32:08 | dwihno | 1) inverted cursor |
| 16:32:11 | dwihno | ;) |
| 16:32:21 | dwihno | 2) One screen for all audio stuff |
| 16:32:33 | dwihno | 3) tighter display |
| 16:32:39 | dwihno | Which are your three? :) |
| 16:32:43 | Bagder | 3 is due to 1 |
| 16:33:07 | Bagder | I'm also giving the tetris mod a chance |
| 16:33:20 | Bagder | not that I've seen it in use |
| 16:34:26 | Bagder | Zagor: you checked out the bookmark patch lately? |
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| 16:35:42 | Zagor | Bagder: no |
| 16:36:04 | Zagor | should I? |
| 16:36:11 | Bagder | no, just asking |
| 16:36:16 | Bagder | I'm getting it now |
| 16:37:02 | quelsaruk | Zagor: i told Bagder tyhis morning that i was thinking in a scrolling quick screen display :) |
| 16:37:13 | quelsaruk | *this morning |
| 16:37:37 | dwihno | Bagder: didn't he also remove some additional pixels? |
| 16:37:48 | Bagder | possibly, yes |
| 16:38:01 | Bagder | I couldn't tell |
| 16:38:06 | dwihno | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/savepixels.png |
| 16:38:16 | dwihno | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/reverse_ui.png |
| 16:38:41 | dwihno | and my fav: |
| 16:38:42 | dwihno | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/graph_sound_digital_sliders3.png |
| 16:38:44 | dwihno | :)~ |
| 16:39:29 | sdbarker | oooh... i like those. |
| 16:39:31 | sdbarker | :) |
| 16:40:50 | dwihno | Yeah, it's really ögongodis |
| 16:41:00 | dwihno | But hey, that's just me :) |
| 16:41:02 | Bagder | Zagor: he's using comma as separator now |
| 16:41:11 | sdbarker | ... ogongodis? |
| 16:41:15 | dwihno | eyecandy :) |
| 16:41:16 | Zagor | ok |
| 16:41:26 | sdbarker | Aye. |
| 16:41:41 | sdbarker | Eye candy is what helps make things useable though. I really like the icons from Joaquim's builds. |
| 16:41:52 | Kuji | yeah them's nice |
| 16:42:00 | dwihno | Zag, Bag, what do you guys think about those screens? |
| 16:42:16 | sdbarker | It'd be great if /they/ could get pulled into the main trunk, too. |
| 16:42:25 | Zagor | they look good. I wish we had code that implemented them. |
| 16:42:37 | Bagder | we should add them if we got them |
| 16:42:45 | Bagder | we would even |
| 16:42:54 | Schnueff | zag & bag heh |
| 16:43:15 | Schnueff | that sounds funny |
| 16:43:26 | sdbarker | hehe. |
| 16:43:28 | dwihno | Who has the vserver.de thingy btw? |
| 16:43:37 | dwihno | Perhaps he could be persuaded into coding :) |
| 16:44:01 | sdbarker | ha anybody tried getting ahold of joaquim to add them? |
| 16:44:17 | sdbarker | ... wow... i forgot how to type for a minute. |
| 16:44:39 | Bagder | I would be happy if Joaquim first made his patches work for all of us |
| 16:44:54 | quelsaruk | Zagor: have you read my last line? |
| 16:45:32 | * | dwihno fetches some tortilla stuff for quelsaruk |
| 16:45:41 | | Part Kuji |
| 16:45:55 | wir|hagge | the inversed line looks gr8... |
| 16:46:00 | quelsaruk | tortilla de patatas?? ;) |
| 16:46:07 | Zagor | quelsaruk: you may think of whatever you like :-) |
| 16:46:08 | dwihno | inverted line is a space saver |
| 16:46:12 | dwihno | I like to save space |
| 16:46:28 | sdbarker | absolutely. |
| 16:46:32 | Zagor | those screens are by someone else. you probably shouldn't be annoying joaquim about those... |
| 16:46:44 | * | dwihno agrees to Zagor |
| 16:47:12 | Bagder | anyone heard/know anyone who used libmad in the uisim? |
| 16:47:12 | sdbarker | ... not those screens, i mean the ones that are from the specific build that he releases to the mailing list, with the sliders. |
| 16:47:17 | Bagder | we should consider removing it |
| 16:47:20 | quelsaruk | Zagor: i know i can think whatever i like... but i'd like to know if there's a chance that you would like a scrolling screen.... |
| 16:47:22 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 16:48:54 | Zagor | Bagder: I agree |
| 16:49:07 | Bagder | I'll do it |
| 16:49:17 | Zagor | sdbarker: I much prefer the horizontal sliders with proper labels |
| 16:49:28 | sdbarker | I do as well. |
| 16:49:43 | sdbarker | I was referring to my higher preference to the icons that he uses throughout the build though. |
| 16:49:45 | Bagder | aren't Joaquim's horizontal? |
| 16:49:46 | Zagor | quelsaruk: hard to say. possibly, if you make it nice :-) |
| 16:49:48 | sdbarker | For charging, the playlist, etc. |
| 16:49:59 | sdbarker | .. and i meant prefererred teh vertical ones. |
| 16:50:03 | sdbarker | you're right Bagder. |
| 16:50:04 | Zagor | Bagder: joaquim's are vertical, since he wants UP/DOWN to always be the same for volume |
| 16:50:14 | Bagder | oogh |
| 16:50:42 | Zagor | i have to run. see you later guys! |
| 16:50:44 | quelsaruk | Zagor: then i'll consider doing it :) |
| 16:50:51 | | Part Zagor |
| 16:54:06 | Bagder | no more libmad |
| 16:55:04 | quelsaruk | dwihno: you read that? zagor is going to accept my weird idea!! |
| 16:55:08 | quelsaruk | incredible ;) |
| 16:55:20 | Bagder | he might |
| 16:55:40 | quelsaruk | Bagder: you know how to break all hopes |
| 16:55:45 | Bagder | haha |
| 16:55:47 | dwihno | quelsaruk: He is?! What idea? |
| 16:55:57 | dwihno | quelsaruk: making the rockbox a tortilla remote? |
| 16:56:02 | quelsaruk | a scrolling quick screen display |
| 16:56:08 | dwihno | ? |
| 16:56:09 | quelsaruk | umm |
| 16:56:13 | dwihno | which means... ? |
| 16:56:14 | quelsaruk | tortilla........ |
| 16:56:37 | quelsaruk | dwihno: i dunno what does that mean.. but if he accepts.. it may be a good idea then ;) |
| 16:56:50 | dwihno | quelsaruk: haha :) |
| 16:56:53 | dwihno | you are so crazy |
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| 17:10:42 | quelsaruk | well.. i must be crazy to stay here ;) |
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| 17:11:45 | xam | hi |
| 17:11:49 | quelsaruk | hi xam |
| 17:11:49 | Bagder | hi |
| 17:12:02 | xam | just got the 8mb chip ... scared to do the mod ;) |
| 17:12:07 | Bagder | :-] |
| 17:12:16 | xam | it's so small! |
| 17:12:52 | quelsaruk | try to use a hammer instead of soldering it :) |
| 17:13:05 | quelsaruk | i can lend you a big and heavy one |
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| 17:13:39 | xam | mhh, I don't think that's good for the hs |
| 17:13:41 | xam | hd |
| 17:13:53 | quelsaruk | who cares about that things? |
| 17:14:42 | xam | how many people have done the 8mb mod so far? |
| 17:14:47 | quelsaruk | 3? |
| 17:14:49 | quelsaruk | 2? |
| 17:15:26 | xam | 3 at least |
| 17:17:19 | xam | another question: I didn't follow the recent CVS logs, but I've heard that the CPU suspend stuff is now in CVS, is that true? |
| 17:22:35 | Bagder | that's true |
| 17:22:40 | Bagder | cpu sleep that is |
| 17:24:46 | quelsaruk | i'm thinking that i know a company that upgrades the ram chip in the Hp-48G calculator. I could ask the spanish distributor if they could be able to upgrade archos ram. I think it was the same kind of ram |
| 17:30:22 | * | Bagder overtook the CVS activity table |
| 17:31:52 | Bagder | see ya |
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| 18:04:20 | quelsaruk | hi elinenbe |
| 18:05:21 | elinenbe | hello there. |
| 18:17:55 | xam | what's the homepage for the 8mb RECORDER hardware mod |
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| 18:22:49 | xam | finally found it |
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| 18:42:30 | jzoss | Hi, all! =) |
| 18:42:35 | adi|work | howdy |
| 18:43:02 | jzoss | Uploaded my id3-edit patch last night (woohoo!) |
| 18:43:14 | jzoss | But it looks like the files have disappeared from the patch :-( |
| 18:43:22 | adi|work | dunno... |
| 18:43:25 | jzoss | I guess I'll re-upload tonight when I get home... |
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| 19:20:25 | MT | hmmm |
| 19:21:12 | MT | ive deep discharged my fm recorder |
| 19:21:17 | MT | (by accident) |
| 19:21:30 | xam | MT what's the problem? |
| 19:21:37 | MT | well ive never done it before |
| 19:21:49 | MT | it just has the charge led lit |
| 19:21:55 | MT | no charging screen has come up |
| 19:21:59 | MT | is that normal? |
| 19:22:37 | xam | Mhhh, I don't know about the FM ... the Recorders would have a charging screen anyway |
| 19:23:44 | MT | ah |
| 19:23:50 | MT | got it back to "charging" |
| 19:24:11 | xam | mhh. copying 5 GB to the archos (already copied about 3.5GB) and the batteries are still full |
| 19:24:44 | xam | I like my 2100mAh AA batteries ;) |
| 19:29:15 | MT | heh |
| 19:29:24 | MT | today i had full charge in the morning |
| 19:29:34 | MT | listened to mp3s for 3 hours |
| 19:29:47 | MT | copied 8 gb of red dwarf onto it |
| 19:29:54 | MT | copied 2 gig of mp3 off it |
| 19:30:03 | MT | and for good measure, a 1.2gb divx |
| 19:30:15 | MT | listened to mp3 for another hour and a half on the drive home |
| 19:30:26 | quelsaruk | one semi-stupid question.... |
| 19:30:48 | MT | and its crapped out after copying off 6 gb of the red dwarf :) |
| 19:30:54 | quelsaruk | usb2.0 needs more batteries than usb1.1 or the same or less?? |
| 19:31:17 | MT | not sure |
| 19:31:28 | MT | especially as fm recorder trickle charges whilst plugged into usb |
| 19:31:39 | quelsaruk | jums... |
| 19:31:52 | MT | its not enough to sustain constant hd tho |
| 19:31:54 | quelsaruk | i'll use usb2.0 |
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| 19:33:53 | quelsaruk | at least it's faster |
| 19:36:07 | xam | no usb2 in my laptop nor pc |
| 19:37:53 | quelsaruk | i have usb2 on my pc (since friday) |
| 19:40:15 | xam | I doubt that usb2 itself need significant more power. And IMHO I think there is no much more power consumption by the harddisk if you use usb2, though it has to transfer more data |
| 19:41:11 | xam | I would say there is no significant increase in overall power consumption when using usb2 |
| 19:41:31 | quelsaruk | i think it's compsumes less power... i mean, you have to transfer the same amount of data, but in less time, and as the disk has to be spined all time... |
| 19:41:42 | quelsaruk | but i'm just thinking loudly.. |
| 19:41:47 | quelsaruk | i'm not sure |
| 19:42:16 | xam | quelsaruk if you compare Watt/kb, then you are right, but you usually measure in Watt/h |
| 19:42:46 | xam | or better Energy/kb and Energy/h |
| 19:45:55 | quelsaruk | of course... |
| 19:46:28 | quelsaruk | but i want to know if copying 1.6 GB via usb2.0 compumes less power |
| 19:46:32 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 19:46:41 | xam | definitely ;) |
| 19:46:58 | quelsaruk | that was what i wanted to know |
| 19:47:16 | quelsaruk | or to confirm |
| 19:48:56 | quelsaruk | 27 minutes for 1.6 GB is a lot? |
| 19:48:58 | quelsaruk | ummm |
| 19:49:04 | quelsaruk | is that reallyusb2.0?? |
| 19:49:09 | quelsaruk | is that really usb2.0?? |
| 19:49:27 | xam | nope, thats usb1 |
| 19:49:41 | quelsaruk | i thought so |
| 19:49:43 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 19:50:11 | quelsaruk | umm... |
| 19:50:16 | quelsaruk | this is weird |
| 19:50:24 | xam | 27mins * 60s/min * 1.2mb/s = 1.89 (ideally) |
| 19:50:37 | xam | 1.89mb |
| 19:50:44 | quelsaruk | thats usb 1.1 |
| 19:50:46 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 19:50:49 | xam | sorry, wrongh |
| 19:50:52 | Schnueff | mbit |
| 19:50:53 | Schnueff | hm |
| 19:51:40 | xam | 27mins * 60s/min * 12mbit/s / 8bit/byte = 2.37 (ideally) |
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| 19:52:25 | quelsaruk | ok.. |
| 19:52:48 | xam | usb2: 27mins * 60s/min * 480mbit/s / 8bit/byte = 94.92 MB (ideally) |
| 19:52:52 | quelsaruk | i hope that stupid bastard conected the usb2.0 jumper as enabled..... |
| 19:53:06 | xam | usb2: 27mins * 60s/min * 480mbit/s / 8bit/byte = 94.92 GB (ideally) |
| 19:53:19 | quelsaruk | ouch.. |
| 19:53:28 | quelsaruk | wait a minute |
| 19:54:52 | xam | quelsaruk: on the package of my recorder it says however: 'max. 12mbyte/s when using usb2'. Probably not the usb2 chip but more likely the harddisk are the limiting factors |
| 19:56:06 | quelsaruk | 1 minute |
| 19:57:08 | xam | if that's true 1.6GB would still just take 2.5 mins |
| 19:59:08 | quelsaruk | the mainboard has a jumper to enable or dissable the usb2.0 |
| 19:59:18 | xam | quelsaruk enable it then ;) |
| 19:59:28 | quelsaruk | and the person that assembled the computer had disabled it |
| 19:59:33 | quelsaruk | a really weird man |
| 19:59:47 | xam | quelsaruk what OS are you running? |
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| 20:00:30 | quelsaruk | win2k |
| 20:01:12 | xam | I suppose you have installed the drivers that came with your usb2 card |
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| 20:01:52 | xam | I don't know whether win2k supports usb2 out of the box |
| 20:02:12 | quelsaruk | of course :) |
| 20:02:23 | quelsaruk | i've done all that stuff |
| 20:02:25 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 20:02:32 | quelsaruk | i'm back in a minute |
| 20:02:40 | xam | rebooting? |
| 20:07:33 | quelsaruk | no |
| 20:07:51 | quelsaruk | a university teacher called me to say that his p4 laptop hadn't rgb output |
| 20:07:57 | quelsaruk | ..... |
| 20:08:21 | quelsaruk | how can anyone say that nonsense?? |
| 20:14:51 | quelsaruk | now it says 4 mintes |
| 20:14:57 | quelsaruk | thats more logical |
| 20:14:58 | quelsaruk | :) |
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| 20:18:46 | xam | true ;) |
| 20:19:30 | xam | quelsaruk your teacher is right. your laptop has not a RGB, but a RBG+vsync+hsync ;) |
| 20:19:41 | quelsaruk | haha |
| 20:19:46 | quelsaruk | it's not my teacher... |
| 20:20:02 | quelsaruk | was my teacher ;) |
| 20:20:10 | quelsaruk | you know what i wanted to say |
| 20:20:32 | xam | i didn't mean your teacher like in 'a teacher that teaches you', but like in 'the teacher you were talking about' |
| 20:21:05 | quelsaruk | well.. he teached me last year ;) |
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| 20:35:38 | xam | quelsaruk did he really teach you or did he just tried to teach you something? |
| 20:36:05 | quelsaruk | he tried to teach me electricity |
| 20:36:19 | quelsaruk | tri-phasic stuff and machines... |
| 20:36:34 | quelsaruk | but.. just tried :) |
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| 20:54:52 | TBoy | moin |
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| 21:15:06 | random1 | anybody here have an fm recorder? |
| 21:15:24 | MT | yep |
| 21:15:50 | random1 | have you had trouble with freeze-ups either w/ archos firmware or rockbox? |
| 21:16:02 | MT | yes |
| 21:16:11 | MT | more with archos |
| 21:16:19 | MT | and especially when the unit is very cold |
| 21:16:59 | random1 | sounds like a hw problem then eh |
| 21:18:26 | MT | theres a thread about it in the mailing list |
| 21:18:43 | quelsaruk | well, time to go home |
| 21:18:46 | quelsaruk | cu tomorrow |
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| 21:20:02 | random1 | i will look into that, ty for the pointer |
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| 21:35:20 | tracktheripper | hiiiiiiiii |
| 21:38:31 | TBoy | hi |
| 21:39:06 | tracktheripper | hi Tboy |
| 21:42:27 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 21:47:18 | tracktheripper | What is this libmad removed? |
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| 21:51:44 | tracktheripper | hi Bubba |
| 21:52:29 | bubba1 | hey .. just visiting unless you can help me with diff and patch probs |
| 21:52:55 | tracktheripper | well for those u better ask Zagor, Badger or other coders |
| 21:53:08 | tracktheripper | i help on non-code side of things |
| 21:53:20 | bubba1 | Ok thanks anyway. |
| 21:53:38 | tracktheripper | no probs |
| 21:53:43 | bubba1 | Do you have any perview over the list |
| 21:54:12 | bubba1 | My account used to double post for some unk reason |
| 21:55:37 | bubba1 | Ping Zagor |
| 21:55:58 | tracktheripper | dunno |
| 21:56:20 | bubba1 | Just thought I'd try. (time diff).. |
| 21:56:34 | tracktheripper | sure |
| 21:56:38 | tracktheripper | no worries. |
| 21:56:42 | tracktheripper | What Archos do u have? |
| 21:56:58 | bubba1 | Old 6 GB recorder |
| 21:57:06 | tracktheripper | mine is a 10Gb recorder |
| 21:57:16 | tracktheripper | well its still better than a Player what u have |
| 21:57:25 | bubba1 | about 1.5 yrs old and still going strong. |
| 21:57:48 | tracktheripper | lol mine is younger but it gets 10 hours solid use every day and never gives me problems |
| 21:58:16 | bubba1 | getting ready to up it to 20GB I think 40Gb might be overkill for mp3 use |
| 21:58:39 | tracktheripper | well unless u encode at 320kbs and insist on having every song under the sun on ur Jukebox |
| 21:59:04 | bubba1 | My ears can't tell the diff. |
| 21:59:16 | tracktheripper | what rate do u encode at? |
| 21:59:20 | tracktheripper | I encode at 192kbs |
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| 22:00:06 | bubba1 | same here eac w/external lame 3.93 |
| 22:00:27 | tracktheripper | I use Musicmatch with Fraunhofer codec |
| 22:00:33 | TBoy | I think VBR is better |
| 22:00:40 | tracktheripper | I don't like 128kbs as I can hear the compression artefacts |
| 22:00:48 | tracktheripper | 192kb/s suits me perfectly |
| 22:00:54 | TBoy | or do you guys use vbr |
| 22:01:02 | tracktheripper | i hate VBR |
| 22:01:09 | tracktheripper | VBR gives me nothing but trouble |
| 22:01:18 | TBoy | like? |
| 22:01:23 | bubba1 | I use VBR exclusively |
| 22:01:42 | PsycoXul | bubba1: me too |
| 22:01:42 | bubba1 | Like I said NO ears left |
| 22:02:06 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:02:11 | TBoy | what don't you like about vbr |
| 22:02:12 | tracktheripper | but I feel VBR is like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut |
| 22:02:21 | PsycoXul | eh? |
| 22:02:25 | tracktheripper | After all theres no difference with CBR at 192kbs |
| 22:02:27 | bubba1 | size−−- |
| 22:02:30 | PsycoXul | sure there is |
| 22:02:44 | PsycoXul | VBR gives best size to quality ratio |
| 22:02:52 | bubba1 | Agreed |
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| 22:02:59 | tracktheripper | well I like having constant file sizes with CBR |
| 22:02:59 | b0mBadIEr337 | whats libmad? |
| 22:03:01 | TBoy | yep I do it because of the of the size : quality ratio |
| 22:03:01 | xam | I use lame −−alt-extreme ;) |
| 22:03:11 | tracktheripper | Ive tried VBR and there is no difference to CBR |
| 22:03:17 | PsycoXul | 192kbps isn't always enough |
| 22:03:21 | xam | gives you 220-280kb/s |
| 22:03:24 | PsycoXul | of course it depends on the kind of music you listen to |
| 22:03:35 | PsycoXul | some stuff 128kbps CBR is enough |
| 22:03:44 | tracktheripper | Ive compared 192kbs with WAV files and couldn't tell the difference |
| 22:03:53 | xam | PsycoXul if you are half-deaf, then yes |
| 22:03:57 | b0mBadIEr337 | libmad? |
| 22:04:08 | PsycoXul | b0mBadIEr337: mpeg audio player library, was only used for the simulator |
| 22:04:18 | bubba1 | libmad I believe is an old library not used |
| 22:04:28 | b0mBadIEr337 | ok |
| 22:04:42 | xam | I can hear the difference between 160kb/s and 192kb/s - if I compare both and listen closely |
| 22:05:00 | tracktheripper | well Ive compared 192kbs to WAV and couldn't tell the difference |
| 22:05:05 | tracktheripper | what can u say about that? ;) |
| 22:05:09 | bubba1 | Will be talking , burning with a few audiophiles this eve I'll ask them |
| 22:05:11 | PsycoXul | like i said |
| 22:05:15 | xam | but I can't hear any differences above 192kb/s, and also not between 192kb/s and raw |
| 22:05:17 | PsycoXul | it depends on the content |
| 22:05:21 | PsycoXul | and also on your ears |
| 22:05:21 | tracktheripper | and im a die-hard super MP3 connesiour :-) |
| 22:05:25 | PsycoXul | and the device you're playing through |
| 22:05:25 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:05:36 | PsycoXul | honestly i think my computer plays better than the archos |
| 22:05:49 | PsycoXul | dunno why |
| 22:05:51 | b0mBadIEr337 | i can tell a diff tween wav and 192kbs |
| 22:05:51 | PsycoXul | just sounds clearer |
| 22:05:57 | PsycoXul | but like |
| 22:06:02 | PsycoXul | metal or old rock |
| 22:06:04 | b0mBadIEr337 | its pretty big |
| 22:06:05 | tracktheripper | well im sure ur PC has a better sound card than the ARchos |
| 22:06:08 | PsycoXul | 128kbps is probably fine |
| 22:06:12 | b0mBadIEr337 | im out |
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| 22:06:16 | PsycoXul | odd complex stuff like NIN and Bjork |
| 22:06:22 | PsycoXul | 192kbps can still give artifacts sometimes |
| 22:06:35 | bubba1 | artifacts ???? |
| 22:06:46 | tracktheripper | well use Realizer and get WAV quality out of a 32kb/s mp3 file :-) heehee |
| 22:06:48 | TBoy | hey im from Iceland, just wanted to mention that since you mentioned Björk |
| 22:06:58 | PsycoXul | and tori amos... |
| 22:07:05 | PsycoXul | and Björk both |
| 22:07:09 | PsycoXul | their vocals |
| 22:07:16 | PsycoXul | can cut off certain ranges in 160 or 192 |
| 22:07:26 | xam | PsycoXul it happened to me just twice that could make out a difference between 192kb and 256kb ... I've tested about 50 songs. |
| 22:07:27 | PsycoXul | and S-sounds get funky too |
| 22:07:45 | bubba1 | 160 or 192 Hz?? |
| 22:07:52 | PsycoXul | no 160 or 192kbps |
| 22:07:53 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:07:58 | xam | but usually I really can't tell the difference |
| 22:07:59 | TBoy | hz?? why hz |
| 22:08:08 | TBoy | don't you mean kbit |
| 22:09:18 | PsycoXul | i've still got a couple things from Björk that're 160 and 192kbps and i can hear nastyness in S-sounds and some other misc sounds |
| 22:10:01 | bubba1 | What does 160 - 192 kbps relate to in sound spectrum highs/lows ?? |
| 22:10:12 | xam | PsycoXul 192kbs CBR, or VBR with average 192kbs ? |
| 22:10:15 | bubba1 | Sorry I'm new to all this |
| 22:10:17 | PsycoXul | xam: CBR |
| 22:10:28 | PsycoXul | bubba1: if there is a direct relationship, i don't know what it is heh |
| 22:10:37 | xam | PsycoXul I can believe that |
| 22:11:00 | PsycoXul | yeah i personally use lame −−alt-preset standard for things i encode |
| 22:11:18 | bubba1 | Is there a relationship between xxxkbps and a certain freq range Hx kHz |
| 22:11:51 | xam | PsycoXul I used lame −−alt-standart, which is about 180-220kbs, now I'm using lame −−alt-extreme, which is 220kbps- 280 kpbs |
| 22:12:01 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:12:06 | PsycoXul | yeah one of my friends likes to use extreme |
| 22:12:29 | tracktheripper | well at the end u use what suits u best :-) |
| 22:12:44 | PsycoXul | i can't even fit all the stuff i've got on my 20G drive as it is |
| 22:13:17 | xam | PsycoXul well, nor can I. But I found a solution to fill the 20GB: mirror debian! |
| 22:13:58 | tracktheripper | Is 40Gb really necessary? |
| 22:14:04 | tracktheripper | if u are not gonna store data |
| 22:14:08 | PsycoXul | xam: no i mean i've got >20G |
| 22:14:20 | PsycoXul | i keep having to delete stuff to put new stuff on |
| 22:14:20 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 22:14:30 | xam | i.c. |
| 22:14:41 | MT | same here |
| 22:14:46 | tracktheripper | Psyco just "downstep" your large MP3s into something smaller like 128kbs |
| 22:14:46 | PsycoXul | i've been looking at 40G's lately |
| 22:14:52 | tracktheripper | if u keep running out off room |
| 22:15:02 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: i'd rather delete them and copy them back on later |
| 22:15:03 | MT | where you form PsycoXul? |
| 22:15:03 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:15:11 | tracktheripper | ohhhh |
| 22:15:13 | PsycoXul | MT: california |
| 22:15:16 | MT | ah :) |
| 22:15:22 | tracktheripper | im from London |
| 22:15:29 | MT | no good me telling you cheap places in the uk to buy 60gb hds :) |
| 22:15:37 | bubba1 | Ithaca New York |
| 22:15:39 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 22:15:47 | Guest | hello can anybody tell me how can i obtain a workig uisimulator source for jb player |
| 22:15:50 | tracktheripper | ive put a 180Gb drive in mine :-) |
| 22:15:51 | PsycoXul | not unless they have cheap international shipping :p |
| 22:16:01 | PsycoXul | uh |
| 22:16:01 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:16:08 | MT | tracktheripper: www.redstore.com and there si no such thing as a 180Gb notebook hd |
| 22:16:11 | PsycoXul | biggest 9.5mm drive i've seen is 60G |
| 22:16:12 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:16:17 | tracktheripper | lol i was joking :-) |
| 22:16:18 | bubba1 | 180Gb −− maker?? |
| 22:16:20 | tracktheripper | heehee! |
| 22:17:14 | tracktheripper | Mind you, it would be cool if there was one |
| 22:17:48 | bubba1 | Maybe if they use just a little more "pixie dust" |
| 22:17:55 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 22:18:11 | tracktheripper | or squeeze in another platter |
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| 22:18:54 | tracktheripper | They could reduce the thickness of the platters to squeeze another one in |
| 22:21:22 | bubba1 | ACK.. ACK... 4:20 gotta go |
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| 22:22:53 | xam | tracktheripper use a hammer! |
| 22:23:01 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 22:23:08 | tracktheripper | well look at the holographic drives! |
| 22:23:24 | tracktheripper | 50Tb in something the size of a sugar cube! |
| 22:24:18 | tracktheripper | 50Tb = 5,000 Gb |
| 22:30:33 | PsycoXul | wouldn't it actualy be 51200GB? |
| 22:30:40 | PsycoXul | 1TB=1024GB? |
| 22:30:41 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:30:59 | PsycoXul | or wait... those are probably hardware vendor numbers so it's probably units of 1000 |
| 22:32:00 | PsycoXul | speaking of contributing ideas... |
| 22:32:07 | PsycoXul | the full-line player progressbar is neat |
| 22:32:14 | PsycoXul | i dunno if that's been incorporated into the CVS yet |
| 22:32:38 | PsycoXul | but i think it'd be neater if you could customize it's mini-numeric display that it has in there too |
| 22:32:55 | PsycoXul | no reason it couldn't display track numbers, time elasped, time remaining, or whatever else you wanted and multiple ones at that |
| 22:33:13 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: somebody just said earlier today that they uploaded a patch for that |
| 22:33:16 | PsycoXul | i think |
| 22:34:23 | PsycoXul | it could also put the line at the top of the line or the bottom of the line depending on what you like and put the numeric displays on the opposite |
| 22:34:27 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:42:18 | | Part sdbarker |
| 22:43:06 | tracktheripper | unloaded a patch for what? |
| 22:44:40 | tracktheripper | I can;t program so how can I upload patches? |
| 22:44:40 | tracktheripper | :_ |
| 22:44:43 | tracktheripper | :) |
| 22:45:30 | PsycoXul | no they uploaded a patch not unloaded one :p |
| 22:46:14 | PsycoXul | the person programmed the ability in, then made a patch that contains the difference between the normal source and their copy of the source with the new code |
| 22:46:17 | PsycoXul | and then uploaded that patch |
| 22:46:24 | PsycoXul | and to use it, you patch your source with it and recompile |
| 22:46:24 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:47:05 | PsycoXul | often times people who submit patches also provide compiled versions with their changes |
| 22:47:09 | PsycoXul | as well |
| 22:47:20 | PsycoXul | so you should check the patch tracker and look at the entry for that patch and see if they did |
| 22:47:24 | PsycoXul | unless you do compile your own |
| 22:47:24 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 22:47:30 | PsycoXul | and have the patch utility |
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| 22:55:48 | tracktheripper | I hate 56k modems |
| 22:56:03 | PsycoXul | better than 1400 baud modems |
| 22:56:09 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 22:57:00 | tracktheripper | heehee |
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