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01:17:31 | tracktheripper | hiiiiiii |
01:20:54 | jzoss | hiya, track |
01:24:20 | tracktheripper | how u doing Jzoss? |
01:24:22 | tracktheripper | didnt see u here :) |
01:24:25 | tracktheripper | sorry! |
01:24:34 | jzoss | I wasn't there (here?) for a while. =) |
01:24:48 | tracktheripper | lol |
01:25:03 | tracktheripper | Someone sent a dupe of my request "Reshuffle when playlist repeats" |
01:25:29 | jzoss | whoops! There's a lot of requests, so sometimes it's easy to overlook something. =) |
01:25:38 | tracktheripper | heehee:) |
01:26:59 | tracktheripper | wheres your ID3 tag editor jzoss? |
01:27:09 | jzoss | It's in the patch section |
01:27:25 | tracktheripper | when is it gonna be inplementied? |
01:27:27 | tracktheripper | :) |
01:27:31 | tracktheripper | please? |
01:27:36 | jzoss | The one that's up there is buggy, though. If you run that version, there is near constant disk-access in WPS (batteries die FAST) |
01:27:50 | jzoss | I'll post a debugged-updated patch of that tonight |
01:28:01 | jzoss | Along with a custom-recording-filename patch |
01:28:25 | jzoss | I have no control over when patches get accepted. And the powers-that-be are quite busy lately. (It's a pretty hefty patch, too) |
01:28:44 | tracktheripper | ohhhhhhhhh |
01:28:47 | tracktheripper | :-( |
01:29:00 | tracktheripper | i must have an ID3 tag editor soon, pretty please? |
01:29:14 | jzoss | Why don't you patch in the version yourself? |
01:29:35 | tracktheripper | because I don't have a clue how to use Gnush or Cygwin |
01:29:39 | tracktheripper | ive given up on those |
01:30:02 | jzoss | oh, well, if you want, I can email you a patched version for whatever you're running (Player/Recorder) |
01:30:21 | tracktheripper | i have a Recorder |
01:30:33 | tracktheripper | ill give u my email address in private |
01:31:33 | jzoss | games+demos, I assume, right? |
01:31:50 | tracktheripper | yea I have a Jukebox Recorder 10 |
01:32:43 | tracktheripper | did u get my email addy? |
01:32:48 | jzoss | yah, thx |
01:32:59 | tracktheripper | cool ;-) |
01:34:42 | random1 | can anyone answer a rolo question?: i've read the faq but am not clear how to boot to archos firmware when running under rockbox.. |
01:34:56 | jzoss | 2 ways: |
01:35:10 | jzoss | rename your rockbox firmware (to something other than ajbrec.ajz) and reboot |
01:35:14 | jzoss | or |
01:36:11 | tracktheripper | Jzoss what he could is rename the Archos ajbrec.ajz to something like Archos.ajz and boot that under Rockbox |
01:36:12 | jzoss | download (from archos' website) some version of the archos firmware. Copy that to your rockbox drive as something other than ajbrec.ajz (like: archosFW.ajz). When you reboot, it'll boot rockbox. From there, you can "PLAY" the archos firmware to get into archos-land. |
01:36:55 | jzoss | Follow that, random1? |
01:36:58 | random1 | thank you #2 option sounds good |
01:37:06 | jzoss | yes, it is by far preferrable |
01:37:41 | tracktheripper | whats that? My methodn? |
01:43:05 | tracktheripper | tracktheripper is bore |
01:43:06 | tracktheripper | bored |
01:43:13 | jzoss | boring? ;) j/k |
01:43:46 | tracktheripper | wheres that Mr Zagor when you need him? |
01:44:29 | tracktheripper | lol |
01:44:34 | tracktheripper | Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
01:45:29 | jzoss | Why? You're bored, so you wanna pester Zagor? That's not very nice... |
01:46:12 | jzoss | lol. I'm just teasin you, track. Don't be mad! ;) |
01:46:42 | random1 | jzoss, can you warmstart from archosfw->rockbox or do you have to power cycle? |
01:46:53 | tracktheripper | im never mad!! |
01:47:00 | jzoss | Powercycle |
01:47:04 | tracktheripper | I never pester Zagor or anyone! |
01:47:25 | jzoss | Archos doesn't have the "rolo" feature; they only check at bootup for ajbrec.ajz and load that. |
01:47:59 | tracktheripper | Jzoss thanks for ur email |
01:48:02 | jzoss | tracktheripper: maybe that's why you're bored!? You should try being mad or pestering people. ;) just don't tell them I said that. |
01:48:03 | tracktheripper | just about to load........ |
01:48:14 | jzoss | No prob, track. Hope it doesn't erase your jukebox. lol |
01:48:45 | tracktheripper | i have the entire Jukebox backed up so no worries |
01:49:13 | jzoss | me too. rsync (and the like) are my friends |
01:50:36 | tracktheripper | Jzoss I have the entire JB structure backed up on my PC so its no problem |
01:51:30 | tracktheripper | JZOSS you are my mate for life :) |
01:51:57 | jzoss | hehe. thx, but wait till you get your first crash before being too complimentary. ;) |
01:52:18 | tracktheripper | lol |
01:52:21 | tracktheripper | still testing :) |
01:52:49 | tracktheripper | Seems to work great :) |
01:53:53 | tracktheripper | It works great Jzoss |
01:54:02 | tracktheripper | you have made me unbelievably happy :) |
01:54:11 | jzoss | good deal. I appreciate you volunteering to test. |
01:54:30 | tracktheripper | Ive tested the MP3 in Windows Media Player and it read it fine :) |
01:56:59 | tracktheripper | the tags work when recording as well :-) |
01:57:12 | jzoss | good. |
01:57:53 | tracktheripper | All you have to implement is a way to record to a directory other than the root, and to create and rename and delete folders |
01:58:17 | jzoss | You already can record to non-root directories (with the patch I sent you) |
01:58:38 | jzoss | The folder rename/create/delete I haven't done, though. |
01:58:52 | tracktheripper | oh right so i navagate to the dircetory first before recording? |
01:59:29 | jzoss | fileFmt: "/recordings/%ty_%tm_%td_(%mi)" will put all recordings in the /recordings directory |
01:59:58 | jzoss | Or you can do non-absolute path "testRec.mp3" (note no leading slash at front) to record in your current dir |
01:59:59 | tracktheripper | oh right |
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02:00:35 | tracktheripper | the ID3 tag is what I really wanted |
02:00:39 | tracktheripper | your work is superb Jzoss |
02:00:42 | tracktheripper | I mean it :-) |
02:00:58 | jzoss | heh. We'll see what Zagor says. I just used bits & pieces they've already put together |
02:01:12 | tracktheripper | just twist his arm |
02:01:13 | tracktheripper | :) |
02:01:50 | jzoss | I'm not much of a pester-er. I'm still running a P200MHz @ work, because I won't pester anyone to upgrade me. =) |
02:03:44 | tracktheripper | yea Jzoss with reference to folder management, ill just create a folder in Windows called Recordings and do all my recordings there |
02:03:56 | jzoss | that's what I plan on doing |
02:04:20 | tracktheripper | the ID3 tag is really handy Jzoss |
02:04:55 | jzoss | Yah, I always find broken ones when I'm playing things and then forget which ones when I get back to my PC. |
02:05:00 | tracktheripper | yea |
02:05:18 | tracktheripper | its much easier to do it on the fly than having to go into Musicmatch or whatever |
02:06:14 | tracktheripper | ive just named a duff ID3 tag to perfection thanks to you Jzoss |
02:10:41 | tracktheripper | yea Jzoss ive named a number of ID3's and ive had No problems |
02:11:05 | jzoss | good deal. Make sure and lemme know if you find anything. Sometimes the intermittent things are hardest to track down. |
02:11:18 | tracktheripper | well ive had no problems |
02:11:31 | tracktheripper | its actually better than the poor ID3 tag editor in Musicmatch |
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04:02:26 | elinenbe_ | jzoss: hello! |
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04:27:16 | jzoss | hiya |
04:28:03 | elinenbe | HI! |
04:28:21 | jzoss | found the bug (Zagor helped). =) I'm making new patches now. |
04:28:24 | elinenbe | I was looking at your code today and I can't seem to figure out where the bug is... |
04:28:26 | elinenbe | oh! |
04:28:28 | elinenbe | great! |
04:28:39 | elinenbe | I am excited to try out the new patches! =) |
04:28:40 | jzoss | Custom rec format done, too. That patch is also in the works as we speak |
04:28:46 | elinenbe | wonderful! |
04:29:01 | elinenbe | you can be sure I will tell you where your errors are =) |
04:29:23 | jzoss | good. |
04:30:03 | jzoss | tracktheripper wanted to test (and can't compile), so I emailed him a patched .ajz. So hopefully he'll help ferret stuff out too. |
04:30:13 | elinenbe | just tell me when the patches are up on sourceforge. |
04:30:23 | jzoss | in 30 min or so |
04:30:27 | elinenbe | he can't compile becasue he is lazy! |
04:30:45 | elinenbe | everything for rockbox is free and easy to set up. |
04:30:49 | jzoss | okay, so s/can't/won't =) |
04:31:08 | elinenbe | (of course I have yet to set up compiling the simulator on windows!) |
04:31:15 | jzoss | I couldn't make it (ui-sim) work under cygwin, so I'm doing linux |
04:31:18 | jzoss | hehe... lol |
04:31:43 | elinenbe | yeah −− I have never gotten the sim to work under windows −− I think you need MSVC. |
04:31:56 | elinenbe | if you want to compile the windows version. |
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04:37:21 | elinenbe | adi|home: you get home late tonight |
04:37:37 | elinenbe | adi|home: what did you end up doing with those RENT tickets? |
04:40:29 | adi|home | used them :) |
04:40:40 | adi|home | good show... managed to get back just before the blizzard basically |
04:40:45 | adi|home | the gf decided to come up :) |
04:40:56 | adi|home | ive been home all day.. my machine has been on the fritz |
04:43:21 | elinenbe | oh. |
04:43:23 | elinenbe | that sucks. |
04:43:29 | elinenbe | I liked RENT too. |
04:48:08 | MT | \o/ |
04:48:15 | MT | a have a simulator to play with ;) |
04:48:59 | elinenbe | MT: nice. |
04:49:07 | elinenbe | MT: what did you compile it under? |
04:49:13 | MT | linux |
04:49:31 | MT | i had to start X, my router box didnt like that :) |
04:49:33 | elinenbe | MT: blah... I am looking for someone who has compiled the simulator under cygwin. |
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05:23:20 | elinenbe | jzoss: you still around? |
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05:23:32 | jzoss | yup |
05:23:44 | elinenbe | how is the patch coming? |
05:23:50 | jzoss | they're both done |
05:24:02 | jzoss | I'm trying to figure out how to apply them both sequentially |
05:24:06 | elinenbe | oohhh.. are you putting them up now? |
05:24:08 | elinenbe | oh. |
05:24:12 | jzoss | They work independently, but not together (too much coupling) |
05:24:21 | jzoss | So I may also post a combined patch.... |
05:24:29 | elinenbe | what do you mean by that? do you have two source trees? |
05:24:53 | jzoss | nope. one source tree, but zagor wanted the two features posted as separate patches |
05:25:07 | elinenbe | oh. |
05:25:10 | jzoss | So I (temporarily) broke out to 2 source trees and created a patch for each |
05:27:37 | elinenbe | jzoss: oh.. that is quite a pain. |
05:27:43 | jzoss | yup. |
05:27:59 | elinenbe | jzoss: what did zagor say about the change that they will make the official tree? |
05:28:12 | elinenbe | jzoss: i think they will −− they add some great functionality |
05:28:16 | jzoss | nah. They've been too busy to look at the patches, far as I know... |
05:29:23 | elinenbe | apple just patented the trash! : http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=D0470860&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO1%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%2Fnetahtml%2Fsrchnum.htm%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526s1%3DD470,860.WKU.%2526OS%3DPN%2FD470,860%2526RS%3DPN%2FD470,860&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=908BC612624B |
05:29:42 | jzoss | yah, I saw that on Slashdot a while ago |
05:30:00 | elinenbe | that is incredible. |
05:30:25 | jzoss | well, windows did it for the Recycle Bin... {shrug} Software patents are so screwed up. |
05:30:33 | elinenbe | no kidding. |
05:30:55 | elinenbe | I am going to pattent rand(); |
05:31:07 | elinenbe | s/pattent/patent |
05:31:13 | jzoss | oooh, ooh... I get to patent 1+1!!!! ;) |
05:31:49 | elinenbe | damnit, then I am patenting i=1; (the process of setting a variable to 1) |
05:32:14 | jzoss | Arrr. I can't get very far with 1+1 if I can't store it somewhere. |
05:32:19 | elinenbe | ha! |
05:33:14 | jzoss | reminds me of the old one-upmanship games as a kid: "I have 10", "but I have 20", "oh yeah? i have infinity", "I have infinity plus ONE!" |
05:33:15 | jzoss | lol |
05:35:06 | elinenbe | well, I have "infinity + infinity" =) |
05:35:19 | elinenbe | did you implement any of my ideas? |
05:35:34 | elinenbe | what _was_ the bug with the code? |
05:35:37 | jzoss | I always thought the biggest number was a "google". It's like writing a one followed by a million zeros |
05:35:56 | elinenbe | it's googol :) |
05:36:01 | jzoss | right |
05:36:06 | elinenbe | and then there is always googol^googol |
05:36:38 | jzoss | woah. That blows my mind. ;) |
05:38:52 | jzoss | check the EditID3 patch −− updates there. |
05:39:04 | jzoss | custom Rec Fmt going up in a sec |
05:39:07 | elinenbe | okay −− sounds good. |
05:39:13 | elinenbe | I should get an email in a second. |
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05:44:07 | Nikkelitous | Hello |
05:44:46 | jzoss | hiya |
05:47:01 | Nikkelitous | How goes it? |
05:47:34 | jzoss | I'm sick. :( My nose is running like a faucet. Bleh. |
05:47:59 | elinenbe | jzoss: sorry to hear that. |
05:48:26 | jzoss | s'all good. I took today off from work. Slept alot, sniffled alot, drank alot of soup. =) |
05:48:33 | jzoss | It only helped a little, though. ;) |
05:55:19 | elinenbe | I say you should take off another day! program rockbox some =) |
05:55:27 | jzoss | heh |
05:55:38 | jzoss | unfortunately, there's (real) work to be done. =) |
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06:00:39 | elinenbe | real work... schmeal work |
06:02:54 | elinenbe | jzoss: did you implement anything new in the ID3 patch? |
06:03:09 | elinenbe | (edit ID3 tags) |
06:05:00 | jzoss | yah, I added the additional menu functionality you talked about |
06:05:11 | elinenbe | oh, sounds great! |
06:05:16 | jzoss | And also default empty year tags to current year when editing |
06:05:35 | elinenbe | awesome! I am waiting to patch my code with the "dual patch" |
06:05:53 | jzoss | The only problem is, there's no easy way to undo that set-to-current-year. So if you start to edit, and change your mind, the year tag will be left as current year (rather than empty) |
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06:06:42 | elinenbe | oh −− I see. yeah. |
06:06:53 | elinenbe | how couldyou go about clearing the year? |
06:07:04 | elinenbe | I don't think that is that big of an issue. |
06:07:40 | jzoss | anyway... I'm just feeling worser by the minute, so I'm gonna go try to sleep it off. |
06:07:45 | jzoss | Talk to ya tomorrow |
06:07:50 | elinenbe | see ya. |
06:07:53 | elinenbe | hope you feel better |
06:07:56 | jzoss | thx |
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06:10:24 | Nikkelitous | I know that Rockbox isn't going to be ported to the Multimedia Jukebox but I wonder how difficult it would actually be to port. |
06:10:36 | Nikkelitous | Does anyone know how difficult it would be to port. |
06:10:43 | elinenbe | Nikkelitous: not much is known about the MM jukebox |
06:10:57 | elinenbe | Nikkelitous: also, the system of lading the firmware is much different in the MM |
06:11:41 | elinenbe | Nikkelitous: if archos were to give out the specs of the MM, then it could be proted in ti's current state rather easily. but to take care of all the new hardware would take quite a while |
06:11:55 | Nikkelitous | Yeah. I could understand that could be difficult. I'm wondering if it would be better to take rockbox and port it or if it would be better to start from scratch. |
06:11:57 | elinenbe | Nikkelitous: currently work is being done on the FM recorder. |
06:13:05 | Nikkelitous | Is that a field that hasn't been researched yet? |
06:13:24 | Nikkelitous | Or has someone actually looked into the possibility of porting? |
06:14:46 | elinenbe | Nikkelitous: it has been researched a litle, and it was determined that there are some "walls" that would first need to be gotten over. |
06:15:48 | Nikkelitous | Are there any website or white papers that list those walls? |
06:15:55 | elinenbe | Nikkelitous: nope. |
06:16:14 | elinenbe | Nikkelitous: the firwares of the recorder/player/fm and mm are all scrabled (encoded a littl) |
06:16:32 | elinenbe | and so far the mm encryption has not been figured out. |
06:16:41 | Nikkelitous | Ahh. |
06:16:52 | Nikkelitous | That is a problem. |
06:17:52 | Nikkelitous | Is there any unified effort behind figuring out the MM? |
06:18:20 | Nikkelitous | I haven't been able to find any and thought it might be best to ask the experts. |
06:18:41 | elinenbe | Nikkelitous: not currently |
06:19:20 | Nikkelitous | Ahh |
06:19:33 | elinenbe | okay −− I am heading to sleep. g'night |
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06:19:40 | Nikkelitous | Goodnight. |
06:20:06 | Nikkelitous | I need to go to sleep too. Thanks for your help. |
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08:39:17 | matsl | hi |
08:39:30 | Bagder | morning |
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08:46:10 | dwihno | Howdy ho! |
08:50:13 | * | Bagder sighs |
08:50:44 | Bagder | vicious spams sent to all the curl-* mailing lists |
08:50:47 | Bagder | held by mailman |
08:50:56 | Bagder | so I need to go over and kill them one by one |
08:51:08 | dwihno | :O |
08:51:10 | dwihno | :( |
08:52:11 | Bagder | X-Spam-Because: line in the body matched regex "charset= *"(big5|euc-kr)"" |
08:52:20 | Bagder | :-) |
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08:56:30 | dwihno | Isn't that evil? :) |
08:56:57 | Bagder | Evil is Goodness(tm) |
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09:01:21 | Bagder | morning Z |
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09:02:56 | Zagor_ | hi |
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09:07:18 | dwihno | Z! :D |
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09:09:55 | dwihno | Yay! |
09:09:59 | * | dwihno loves patches |
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09:24:14 | Zagor | Bagder: the tree.c fix for deleting is not very good. he said he would post a better version. |
09:24:51 | Bagder | well, imho it is better than without it |
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09:25:50 | Zagor | i disagree. today we only have a problem when deleting the last file in a dir. with that patch the cursor moves to the top *every* time you delete a file |
09:25:51 | Bagder | Zagor: this was an updated version |
09:25:57 | Bagder | nope |
09:25:59 | Zagor | ah, ok then |
09:25:59 | Bagder | it does not |
09:26:43 | Bagder | check this: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/rockbox/apps/tree.c.diff?r1=1.175&r2=1.176 |
09:28:52 | Zagor | that's the old fix |
09:28:59 | Zagor | or? |
09:29:09 | Bagder | no, see the condition on the cursor move |
09:29:15 | Zagor | ah, ok. goodie |
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09:43:21 | bobTHC | hi all!!! |
09:44:00 | Bagder | hey bob |
09:45:17 | bobTHC | a lot of UI improvement this days ? |
09:46:02 | bobTHC | vertical bar... invert font to replace tiny arrow |
09:46:12 | bobTHC | u thing can be used in 2.0 ? |
09:46:35 | bobTHC | s/thing/think |
09:47:07 | Zagor | the problem with all these changes are that we don't receive proper patches for them |
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09:47:41 | quelsaruk | hi |
09:47:57 | bobTHC | team developement is not completly know by everybody |
09:48:03 | bobTHC | hi amigo! |
09:48:09 | quelsaruk | hi bobTHC! |
09:48:16 | quelsaruk | development team?? |
09:48:19 | quelsaruk | what's that? |
09:48:23 | quelsaruk | ;) |
09:49:06 | bobTHC | :) |
09:51:35 | bobTHC | Zagor : have u have a discution with Joaquim Carvalho? |
09:53:47 | Zagor | only in the mailing list |
09:53:48 | Bagder | I've added a comment to his patch submission |
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10:05:00 | bobTHC | a good discution with him can be the solution |
10:05:19 | Bagder | solution for what? |
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10:06:03 | bobTHC | for a clean and good separate patch submission |
10:06:24 | Bagder | we've asked for that several times |
10:07:51 | bobTHC | it's acomputing teacher, he can understand .... |
10:08:33 | quel|out | he's portuguese.. i can reach his house and "make him understand" ;) |
10:08:38 | Bagder | hahaha |
10:08:39 | quel|out | like italian mafia |
10:09:18 | quel|out | La comunidad es lo primero..... |
10:11:54 | Zagor | heh, I just sped up playlist loading about 3x |
10:12:00 | Bagder | kewl |
10:12:05 | Zagor | how silly of us |
10:12:05 | Bagder | hpw? |
10:12:07 | Bagder | how |
10:12:21 | Zagor | simply load the list into the mp3 buffer instead of a small dedicated buffer |
10:12:31 | Bagder | ah! |
10:12:36 | Bagder | hehe |
10:12:39 | Zagor | nothing is playing anyway |
10:12:45 | Schnueff | even saves memory :) |
10:12:50 | Zagor | Schnueff: yup |
10:13:04 | Bagder | so what if I play a playlist while listening, do we stop it first now? |
10:13:32 | Zagor | yes |
10:13:34 | Bagder | with that fix, we must stop it, but do we now? |
10:13:39 | Bagder | ok |
10:13:51 | Zagor | I think now it only stops when the first file starts playing. |
10:14:03 | Bagder | right, that's what I thought too |
10:14:08 | Zagor | so the fix stops it half a second earlier or something :-) |
10:14:25 | Bagder | quite ok anyway, imho |
10:14:30 | Zagor | yeah |
10:15:18 | Zagor | I think we can skip the load/parse loop now :-) |
10:15:26 | Zagor | few playlists are >1.5 MB |
10:15:50 | Bagder | I think we should still keep it |
10:15:57 | Bagder | since it is there and works |
10:16:17 | Zagor | yeah, no big deal |
10:16:29 | Bagder | very long file and dir names and 100GB disks might reach 1.5MB ;-) |
10:17:16 | Bagder | ~157 characters in average and 10000 entries |
10:17:48 | Zagor | not that far off, then |
10:17:59 | Bagder | no |
10:18:30 | dwihno | :O |
10:18:56 | Zagor | how about we spend 10 of the saved 16 KB on bumping max playlist size to 15000 entries? |
10:19:13 | Zagor | uh that's only 12500 but anyway :-) |
10:19:57 | Bagder | I think 10000 is fine still |
10:20:15 | Zagor | with more people adding 60 gig disks, we will hit that limit soon |
10:20:33 | Bagder | hm, true |
10:20:46 | Bagder | ok, I'm for a raise |
10:21:22 | Bagder | you timed the new playlist loading? |
10:22:35 | Zagor | not really |
10:23:03 | Schnueff | heh, so where's factor 3 coming from? :) |
10:23:20 | Zagor | i counted the seconds in my head. |
10:23:29 | Bagder | haha |
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10:23:33 | Bagder | you can count? B) |
10:23:54 | Zagor | I did say "about 3x" :-) |
10:29:05 | Bagder | "We are alleging they have contaminated their Linux work with inappropriate knowledge from Unix," |
10:29:16 | Zagor | ? |
10:29:23 | Bagder | SCO sues IBM |
10:29:28 | Zagor | hah |
10:29:31 | Bagder | only 1 billion dollar |
10:29:32 | Zagor | good luck |
10:30:07 | Bagder | "inappropriate knowledge" is truly a nice term ;-) |
10:30:19 | Zagor | yeah. knowledge contamination is a big problem these days... |
10:30:55 | Zagor | they sure know how to make friends. the rambus of operating systems. :-) |
10:31:18 | adi|home | zagor.. regarding your playlist change... |
10:31:25 | Zagor | yeah? |
10:31:30 | adi|home | do we ever see wanting to read the playlist w/o playing it? |
10:31:45 | Zagor | possibly, but not with this code |
10:31:47 | Bagder | sure, but that would be a different function |
10:31:51 | adi|home | nods |
10:31:59 | Bagder | we want a playlist browser |
10:32:00 | adi|home | okay... just the first thing that came to mind... |
10:32:03 | adi|home | nods |
10:32:25 | Bagder | "IBM is affirmatively taking steps to destroy all value of Unix by improperly extracting and using the confidential and proprietary information it acquired from Unix and dumping that information into the open source community," |
10:32:35 | adi|home | regarding Joaquim.. id love to see his invert cursor patch... |
10:32:44 | adi|home | but god forbid he should break his stuff out.. |
10:32:46 | * | adi|home sighs |
10:32:53 | Bagder | yes |
10:32:57 | adi|home | any opinons on if we 1. like the idea of sliders? |
10:33:03 | Bagder | its not that quickly done for outsiders |
10:33:08 | adi|home | and 2. if we prefer vertical or horizontal? |
10:33:27 | Bagder | I'd like to see screenshots next to each other and compare |
10:33:51 | Zagor | adi|home: I like sliders, but I think I prefer the horizontal test screens that have been published. |
10:34:33 | adi|home | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/graph_sound.png |
10:34:34 | adi|home | nods |
10:34:39 | adi|home | i _really_ like that one |
10:34:46 | adi|home | seems better 1. for text |
10:34:54 | adi|home | and 2. easier to scroll through... |
10:35:39 | dwihno | hmm |
10:35:50 | dwihno | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/graph_sound_digital_sliders3.png |
10:35:52 | dwihno | I like that |
10:35:53 | dwihno | :-) |
10:36:05 | Bagder | me too |
10:36:09 | Zagor | me too |
10:36:40 | adi|home | hehe i was about to post that one |
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10:36:44 | dwihno | Unfortunately, I can't show you the code :) |
10:36:45 | adi|home | so thats 4 votes for that :) |
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10:37:24 | adi|home | although.. having a half filed rectangle makes no sense to me.. |
10:37:31 | adi|home | it should either be empty or full |
10:37:33 | Schnueff | yes, was thinking the same |
10:38:09 | adi|home | okay.. i need sleep.. |
10:38:11 | adi|home | nite lads |
10:38:14 | * | adi|home is away: zzzzzz |
10:38:30 | Schnueff | night |
10:43:46 | Zagor | Bagder: great minds think alike :) |
10:43:56 | Bagder | :-) |
10:50:22 | Bagder | bbl |
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11:34:13 | dwihno | quel, just thought you should know, my case is still up and rocking! :D |
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11:38:36 | tracktheripper | morning... |
11:41:21 | dwihno | Yay! |
11:41:22 | dwihno | Hello! :D |
11:41:26 | dwihno | Are you happy today? |
11:41:35 | tracktheripper | Im over the moon at the moment |
11:42:17 | dwihno | you are? |
11:42:21 | tracktheripper | yes |
11:42:22 | tracktheripper | :) |
11:42:29 | * | dwihno does not believe in the lunar landing |
11:42:35 | dwihno | it's all a major hoax |
11:42:47 | tracktheripper | its a figure of speech you twat :) |
11:44:00 | tracktheripper | im very pleased because I have Jzoss's ID3 tag editor working |
11:49:23 | tracktheripper | heehee |
11:54:42 | dwihno | what id3 tag editor? |
11:55:22 | tracktheripper | a patch Jzoss applied for me and emailed me the appropriate ajbrec.ajz file |
11:58:15 | tracktheripper | next time you see Jzoss if you ask him very nicely he may send u the file |
11:59:38 | dwihno | nah, I need no id3 editor :) |
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12:00:04 | tracktheripper | hey, once youve tried it its invaluable |
12:00:16 | tracktheripper | its actually better than one u find in Musicmatch or something likethat |
12:01:15 | dwihno | :O |
12:02:19 | tracktheripper | If you download MP3s directly to your Archos and they have bad ID3 tags its easier to edit them on-the-fly than having to plug in the USB cable, load up Musicmatch or the like and correct them there |
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12:57:13 | Zagor | how lovely. old versions of IE don't understand the @media css tag. fine. but they interpret everything inside it anyway! |
12:57:35 | * | Zagor hates MS programmers |
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14:55:10 | TBoy | hi |
14:55:52 | TBoy | I just recieved my FM |
14:56:13 | TBoy | and I don't know how to get it to run with Rockbox |
14:56:35 | * | TBoy thinks he's a n00b |
14:58:00 | TBoy | hello |
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15:04:44 | Zagor_ | hang on... |
15:05:06 | dwihno | Mail on the list |
15:05:11 | dwihno | Regarding writing to CFG |
15:05:13 | dwihno | Yay! :D |
15:05:34 | TBoy | so can some1 tell me how to install it on my FM |
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15:06:33 | dwihno | connect the FM, get a build, install it in the root of the device |
15:06:42 | TBoy | yeah I did that |
15:06:55 | TBoy | and when it boots nothing happens |
15:07:24 | TBoy | I mean its starts up the old archos firmware |
15:07:32 | Zagor | TBoy: how did you install rockbox?` |
15:07:35 | Schnueff | did u get a daily build? |
15:07:59 | Schnueff | from http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml ? |
15:08:07 | TBoy | I first downloaded v1.4 |
15:08:14 | TBoy | and then got a daily build |
15:08:15 | dwihno | 1.4 is a no-do |
15:08:19 | dwihno | daily build = yay |
15:08:28 | Schnueff | like http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-fmrecorder/ajbrec.ajz ? |
15:08:39 | Zagor | 1.4 doesn't work with fm |
15:08:50 | Zagor | fm was hardly even released when 1.4 was released :-) |
15:09:00 | TBoy | oppss |
15:10:09 | TBoy | ok its working |
15:10:13 | TBoy | thx guys |
15:12:09 | dwihno | :-) |
15:12:11 | dwihno | Yay! |
15:12:13 | dwihno | Yay for FM! |
15:21:54 | TBoy | yay for dwihno |
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15:28:48 | tracktheripper | Hello |
15:28:53 | dwihno | yo |
15:29:01 | tracktheripper | hey you :) |
15:30:43 | tracktheripper | whats the latest? |
15:30:54 | dwihno | dunno |
15:30:59 | dwihno | potatoes? |
15:31:01 | tracktheripper | oh ok :( |
15:31:12 | tracktheripper | potatoes?!?!?! |
15:31:18 | tracktheripper | what the hell u on about?! |
15:31:21 | elinenbe_ | Zagor: jzoss has completed some wonderful patches. |
15:31:36 | tracktheripper | Zagor isnt here right now |
15:31:40 | tracktheripper | :( |
15:32:11 | dwihno | :-/ |
15:32:21 | * | dwihno wants inverted text cursor! :D :D :D |
15:32:23 | elinenbe_ | WHAT!! Where did Zagor go? |
15:32:45 | tracktheripper | well Zagor should realise IRC is not the same without him :) |
15:33:27 | tracktheripper | heeheee |
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15:34:51 | tracktheripper | here he is Elinenbe!! |
15:34:53 | tracktheripper | :-) |
15:35:16 | tracktheripper | hello Zagor :) |
15:35:20 | Zagor | hi |
15:35:37 | tracktheripper | we were missing you whilst you were away |
15:35:44 | elinenbe_ | wo! |
15:36:01 | tracktheripper | : |
15:36:01 | tracktheripper | :) |
15:36:02 | elinenbe_ | Zagor: did you check out jzoss' patches? They are very nice. |
15:36:06 | Zagor | tracktheripper: please don't /msg me. keep all conversation in the channel. |
15:36:09 | Zagor | elinenbe_: not yet |
15:36:20 | elinenbe_ | Zagor: he said you helped him with one of them. |
15:36:27 | tracktheripper | Zagor I only messaged you once :-) |
15:36:31 | Zagor | elinenbe_: yeah, we discussed it here yesterday |
15:36:37 | Zagor | tracktheripper: yeah, but i'm being preemtive :-) |
15:36:49 | Schnueff | don't massage Zagor :) |
15:36:58 | tracktheripper | oh ok, I was really worried in case you began to hate me Zagor :-) |
15:37:08 | dwihno | :-) |
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15:37:17 | dwihno | Zagor rules! |
15:37:22 | dwihno | Zagor for president! |
15:37:33 | TBoy | how can I change the pitch |
15:37:49 | Schnueff | on+play while playing iirc |
15:38:32 | TBoy | thx |
15:39:02 | tracktheripper | Will we ever see the "invert video line" present in the new interface in Rockbox soon? |
15:39:21 | Zagor | no, ON+UP/DOWN |
15:39:33 | Schnueff | oh |
15:39:39 | Schnueff | but on+play gets you the menu then? |
15:39:44 | Schnueff | never mind |
15:40:24 | Zagor | tracktheripper: there is no patch for it |
15:40:54 | tracktheripper | well someone implemented it in a redesigned interface somewhere on your site |
15:41:45 | tracktheripper | just curious |
15:42:01 | Zagor | I repeat: there is no patch for it |
15:42:12 | tracktheripper | i know that you told me once :-) |
15:42:43 | Schnueff | oh, Zagor is in repeat mode :) |
15:42:50 | tracktheripper | HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! |
15:43:02 | tracktheripper | wonder what he is like in Shuffle mode! :-) |
15:44:27 | tracktheripper | wheres quelsaruk? |
15:45:09 | Schnueff | siesta |
15:45:17 | tracktheripper | lol |
15:45:31 | tracktheripper | :) |
15:45:54 | tracktheripper | ;-) |
15:48:34 | tracktheripper | :-( |
15:48:54 | TBoy | is there a faster way to skip the pitch level |
15:49:01 | TBoy | or some sort of reset |
15:49:08 | Zagor | no |
15:49:20 | Zagor | there is a patch that accelerates it |
15:49:32 | TBoy | ohh |
15:50:04 | tracktheripper | what would be good in addition to pitch is preset pitch levels |
15:50:12 | tracktheripper | say "slow" "normal" "fast" |
15:51:33 | Zagor | the pitch is designed for DJs. they don't change pitch very much, but want it very exact |
15:51:46 | TBoy | is there some sort of word wrap in the txt reader |
15:51:55 | Schnueff | not yet |
15:52:14 | tracktheripper | yea Zagor, but I thought that just could supplement the normal pitch adjuster |
15:52:18 | PsycoXul | there's a text reader patch |
15:52:20 | PsycoXul | for a different one |
15:52:25 | TBoy | yeah well there should be a faster way to |
15:52:27 | TBoy | too |
15:52:39 | PsycoXul | i'd like to see both styles of text reader switchable while reading |
15:52:41 | TBoy | that wouldn't hurt no1 except ripper |
15:52:51 | TBoy | Pees ripper |
15:53:03 | tracktheripper | ?????? |
15:53:29 | TBoy | I didn't mean you |
15:53:46 | TBoy | zagor wouldn't that be possibility |
15:53:53 | tracktheripper | oh ok you had me worried for a moment. I didn;t mean to upset u |
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15:54:17 | Zagor | TBoy: many things are possible. few are implemented... :-) |
15:54:53 | tracktheripper | yea but every daily build the file size seems to increase and I thought files over 200k won;t load |
15:55:04 | Schnueff | today Zagor decreased it |
15:55:10 | tracktheripper | oh right |
15:55:24 | tracktheripper | I was just concered what happens when the 200k limit is reached |
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15:57:48 | tracktheripper | Zagor I know the Archos can read .txt files. could u type .txt files with the letter input screen? |
15:58:38 | Schnueff | if someone implements it :) |
15:58:53 | tracktheripper | yes but is the Archos physically capable of doing it? |
15:59:02 | Zagor | Schnueff: actually I only decreased the ram usage, not the file size. |
15:59:09 | Schnueff | Zagor: oh right |
15:59:17 | Zagor | plus I had to take the ram back again :-) |
15:59:40 | Bagder | hehe |
15:59:50 | tracktheripper | Hi Badger! |
15:59:54 | Bagder | now fix them sim builds you made red ;-) |
15:59:58 | Bagder | hi track |
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16:00:51 | tracktheripper | Badger don't laugh but I tried to make my Jukebox play WMA by renaming the extension from .wma to .mp3 :-) |
16:01:07 | dwihno | Did it work? :) |
16:01:22 | * | Bagder tries not to laugh out loud |
16:01:35 | * | TBoy giggles |
16:01:35 | tracktheripper | no, it crashed my Jukebox through and through :( |
16:01:45 | Schnueff | well, i could try renaming .txt to .mp3 to make the jukebox read it out then perhaps :) |
16:01:59 | tracktheripper | hahahaha |
16:02:12 | Bagder | hehehe |
16:02:32 | dwihno | very interesting concept though :) |
16:02:36 | TBoy | you know what codec would rule midi LMAO |
16:02:57 | tracktheripper | or I tried renaming the extension to .zagor so I could see his face on my Jukebox's LCD |
16:02:58 | TBoy | no seriously I mean MP4/AAC that one's good |
16:03:30 | Bagder | tracktheripper: wow, that would've been scary! ;-) |
16:03:40 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:04:06 | tracktheripper | :) |
16:05:47 | tracktheripper | Badger how old are u? |
16:06:01 | Bagder | guess! ;-) |
16:06:06 | tracktheripper | erm, 35? |
16:06:16 | Bagder | close enough, 32 |
16:06:26 | tracktheripper | :) How old is your bro Zagor? |
16:06:31 | TBoy | respect |
16:06:34 | Bagder | he's a kiddo |
16:06:37 | Bagder | only 30 |
16:06:43 | TBoy | haha |
16:06:46 | tracktheripper | well im a baby at 24 |
16:06:51 | tracktheripper | heehee |
16:06:56 | Bagder | youngster ;-) |
16:07:04 | tracktheripper | :) |
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16:07:14 | TBoy | I'm still an embrio 17 |
16:07:20 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:07:22 | Bagder | hehe |
16:07:43 | tracktheripper | Bagder why don't you and Zagor pay me a visit in London? |
16:07:43 | tracktheripper | :) |
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16:08:07 | Schnueff | pay? that could be expensive :) |
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16:08:32 | tracktheripper | now look what you have done! You made him go away! :-( |
16:08:32 | Bagder | you come here instead, we outnumber you ;-) |
16:08:38 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:08:54 | tracktheripper | maybe you can show me how to write firmware and make the ajbrec.ajz file |
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16:09:10 | tracktheripper | welcome back Sir Zagor :-) |
16:10:12 | tracktheripper | Tboy where do u come from? |
16:10:36 | TBoy | come or live |
16:10:47 | tracktheripper | Where do u live then? |
16:11:02 | TBoy | germany |
16:11:09 | tracktheripper | im in London |
16:11:19 | tracktheripper | the land of congestion charging :( |
16:12:28 | tracktheripper | ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
16:13:39 | Zagor | does anyone know if 'quotes' are accepted the same as "quotes" in XML? |
16:13:50 | Schnueff | hm yes |
16:14:03 | TBoy | and germany the of continues sausage eating land |
16:14:08 | Zagor | so XHTML should too? |
16:14:13 | Schnueff | i'd think so |
16:14:21 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:14:31 | tracktheripper | lol frankfurters |
16:14:33 | tracktheripper | :-) |
16:14:38 | Zagor | then again I bet MSIE barfs on it anyway, so I'd better not push my luck... |
16:15:53 | tracktheripper | ??? |
16:15:58 | tracktheripper | <−− is lost |
16:16:18 | * | Bagder shows tracktheripper a map ;-) |
16:16:30 | tracktheripper | I mean Im lost over what Zagor is on about |
16:16:31 | tracktheripper | l) |
16:16:36 | Bagder | I know |
16:16:41 | quelsaruk | Zagor: you need a looong weekend, or you'll get burst ;) |
16:17:17 | tracktheripper | Zagor, you need a holiday :-) |
16:17:42 | Zagor | yeah... |
16:18:01 | tracktheripper | any plans on where u going this summer? |
16:18:20 | Zagor | nope |
16:18:31 | tracktheripper | :-( |
16:19:52 | quelsaruk | Zagor: what about north pole, it's just a bit colder than Sweden |
16:20:36 | elinenbe_ | anyone here in France? |
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16:20:42 | elinenbe_ | I am leaving fro France tonight. |
16:21:11 | quelsaruk | ummm |
16:21:13 | Bagder | bobTHC is french I believe |
16:21:13 | n00beater | shut the fuck up all you n00bie frenchmen |
16:21:17 | quelsaruk | yes |
16:21:18 | quelsaruk | he is |
16:21:22 | n00beater | you fuck faces |
16:21:32 | TBoy | wow whats wrong with him |
16:21:42 | quelsaruk | n00beater: ¿?????? |
16:21:42 | tracktheripper | calm down n00beater |
16:21:47 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
16:21:59 | * | TBoy somebody is mad |
16:22:08 | n00beater | tboy shut the fuck up |
16:22:13 | * | quelsaruk fears Bagder the executor |
16:22:27 | | Part n00beater |
16:22:39 | tracktheripper | wow who rattled his cage? |
16:22:40 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:22:48 | TBoy | wow |
16:22:49 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Zagor " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
16:23:08 | Mode | "#rockbox +o logbot " by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
16:23:13 | Topic | "Matthew P. OReilly: The newest Rockbox hero!" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
16:23:20 | Zagor | the rattling of guns :-) |
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16:23:40 | tracktheripper | lol |
16:23:48 | tracktheripper | I thought u would boot him out Zagor |
16:23:55 | TBoy | yeah me too |
16:24:05 | * | TBoy was scared |
16:24:07 | Bagder | he was harmless |
16:24:26 | tracktheripper | Zagor i still chuckle at that comment u added to one request u rejected from me (again) |
16:24:31 | * | Bagder remembers the good old clonebot attacks of efnet... |
16:24:33 | tracktheripper | :-) |
16:24:53 | Zagor | ATOTC(B) |
16:25:06 | Zagor | AOTC even |
16:25:08 | tracktheripper | pardon? |
16:25:31 | TBoy | buddys I off to efnet to get some games |
16:26:03 | | Part TBoy |
16:26:04 | tracktheripper | sure |
16:26:41 | Zagor | XHTML is pretty scary stuff. *all* tags need to be closed, even <img> and friends |
16:26:51 | quelsaruk | ouch |
16:26:54 | Schnueff | thats xml for ya |
16:26:55 | tracktheripper | :-O |
16:26:56 | Schnueff | :) |
16:26:59 | tracktheripper | :-O |
16:27:03 | quelsaruk | someone has stolen my new patch :( |
16:27:10 | Bagder | well, "closed" means ending with a slash, right? |
16:27:23 | Zagor | Bagder: yes |
16:27:24 | quelsaruk | the sonyericsson charging animation |
16:27:32 | tracktheripper | :-( |
16:27:54 | Zagor | Bagder: but it still means a lot of modifications :-) |
16:28:03 | Bagder | yes :-) |
16:28:27 | tracktheripper | Who wants a cup of tea? |
16:28:29 | Zagor | Bagder: btw, beware of @media print. old MSIE uses those tags for the computer display too! |
16:28:33 | webmind | tracktheripper, please |
16:28:34 | tracktheripper | Quel, Badger, Zagor? |
16:28:49 | quelsaruk | no thx |
16:28:52 | tracktheripper | would u like one webmind?] |
16:29:03 | Bagder | Zagor: hihihi, ooops ;-) |
16:29:17 | Zagor | took me a while to understand why the heck some people didn't see half of my pages... |
16:29:20 | * | Bagder just had a cup |
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16:29:28 | tracktheripper | sure |
16:29:32 | tracktheripper | hi Snorlax |
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16:35:23 | elinenbe_ | I see that we have OPS now! |
16:35:29 | | Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) |
16:35:32 | quelsaruk | re |
16:35:44 | | Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cev10r.cable.mindspring.com) |
16:36:23 | elinenbe | change to topic to "Rockbox: The poor mans Ferrari" |
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16:37:58 | elinenbe | or "Rocbox: don't leave home without it" (taken from American Express comercials in the USA) |
16:38:15 | barker`coding | i leave home w/o mine. |
16:38:30 | barker`coding | though, that's only because it won't play in my car anymore, and i used it to mirror my mp3 collection at work. |
16:39:20 | Schnueff | Zagor: u could try using 'tidy' to modify the pages for you |
16:39:44 | Zagor | Schnueff: doesn't really help for dynamically generated stuff. 'tidy' isn't good at perl :-) |
16:39:48 | Schnueff | :) |
16:40:13 | Bagder | so write a perl script that cleans them up ! :-] |
16:40:25 | Zagor | hehe |
16:40:50 | Schnueff | open(STDOUT,"|tidy") |
16:40:51 | Schnueff | :) |
16:41:59 | Zagor | ugh. xhtml isn't backwards compatible with html4. i'm definitely sticking with html. |
16:43:30 | elinenbe | while you are wasting time at work on Friday go check out www.linenberg.com/insanity.html |
16:43:42 | elinenbe | turn on the volume :) |
16:44:23 | Zagor | I bet you intended that page to actually have a background color :-) |
16:46:17 | elinenbe | Zagor: nothing but white. |
16:46:33 | Zagor | it's gray for me |
16:46:40 | elinenbe | oh. |
16:46:54 | Zagor | never trust defaults :-) |
16:46:55 | elinenbe | well, I coudn't really care too much. I just threw it together. |
16:47:00 | elinenbe | Zagor: no kidding. |
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16:55:07 | quelsaruk | why on hell 3d studio messes my computer this way? |
16:55:35 | quelsaruk | well |
16:55:44 | elinenbe | have a good weekend (week) I am off for a skiing holiday |
16:55:45 | quelsaruk | time to have acoffee with a spanish girl |
16:55:47 | quelsaruk | ;) |
16:55:54 | quelsaruk | i'll find out later! |
16:55:55 | elinenbe | quelsaruk: do you like cycling? |
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17:03:24 | elinenbe | bye all |
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18:12:34 | quelsaruk | Zagor: how's that web going? |
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18:16:12 | MicroChip | hi |
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20:09:49 | quelsaruk | ola capetao |
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20:10:15 | CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] | ,0::,12C,0.,4A,0::,0o,04opa |
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20:10:21 | CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] | ,0::,12C,0.,4A,0::,0o,04hehe |
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21:01:40 | quelsaruk | time to go home |
21:01:48 | quelsaruk | it's friday night! |
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21:10:17 | SeeSchloss | hum |
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21:17:05 | BrotherThad | In the immortal words of Pink Floyd - 'Is there anybody out there?' |
21:17:28 | barker | In the immortal words of a counter-strike newb - 'neg.' |
21:17:29 | random1 | hello |
21:17:33 | MT | does anybody here remember vera lynne? |
21:17:42 | BrotherThad | lol |
21:18:44 | BrotherThad | hello barker, random, MT - do any of you use the recorder |
21:19:04 | MT | <<−− fm recorder |
21:19:09 | barker | <<<<−− recorder |
21:19:22 | barker | i used to have an fmrec, but returned it |
21:19:27 | barker | it wouldn't play a bunch of my songs. |
21:19:27 | barker | :( |
21:19:46 | BrotherThad | that sux barker... which one do you use now? |
21:19:47 | MT | heh, never had that problem :) |
21:19:56 | barker | rec15 |
21:20:10 | barker | from the fmrec20 |
21:20:28 | barker | and its not that big of a deal, since i never wanted to fmrec anything in the past, and can't envision wanting to in the future. |
21:20:41 | BrotherThad | ok, I've got the rec6... jumped at it as soon as they released it, because I was specifically looking for a recorder not a player |
21:21:36 | barker | k. |
21:21:40 | BrotherThad | Rather than assume (since you're here) - do you use rockbox? |
21:21:51 | barker | Yes. |
21:21:56 | barker | bleeding, usually. |
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21:23:18 | BrotherThad | do you know if the standard ver has implemented recording? The FAQ still says it doesn't (except in daily's), but the current news says it does as of November'02 |
21:23:57 | barker | The 1.4 release, hasn't. |
21:24:06 | barker | The daily builds might, I'm not sure. |
21:24:08 | barker | Just get one and try it. |
21:25:34 | BrotherThad | I was going to, but figured, Why mess with something that works... I'm not techie enough to clean up after myself if I make a mess, and I use the recorder as a part of my business |
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21:29:29 | MT | its really easy - even if it wont then boot up (it will, but bear with me :), you just connect it to usb and delete the offending ajbrec.ajz |
21:29:58 | MT | you have MT's lifetime gaurentee (this is not a gaurentee) that you wont damage your hardware by loading a daily build |
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21:31:24 | SeeSchloss | hmm moreover the daily builds don't have more bugs than the 1.4 |
21:31:41 | barker | very true. |
21:31:49 | MT | god i hate 56k :/ |
21:31:51 | barker | I used 1.4 for about 30 seconds, and then went... "hmmm..." |
21:31:56 | MT | i miss my dsl |
21:31:57 | barker | that's why i write tiny software, MT. |
21:32:01 | barker | because i used to be on dialup. |
21:32:03 | MT | what was the last thing i said? |
21:32:05 | barker | and i hated long d/l times. |
21:32:18 | MT | (before "god I hate 56k") |
21:32:41 | barker | [15:30:04] <<MT> you have MT's lifetime gaurentee (this is not a gaurentee) that you wont damage your hardware by loading a daily build |
21:33:03 | MT | ah well, didnt lose too much of the convo :) |
21:33:33 | MT | SeeSchloss: you know much about playlist.c ? |
21:34:16 | SeeSchloss | hmm... well... not much |
21:34:30 | SeeSchloss | why ? |
21:34:44 | MT | hmm :/ I'll wait for Linus or Zagor to come online |
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21:34:57 | tracktheripper | Hello Rockboxers |
21:34:58 | MT | im writing a patch that will allow you to jump to a file in a playlist |
21:35:12 | MT | (like pressing J in xmms or winamp) |
21:35:42 | SeeSchloss | and how would it work ? |
21:35:47 | MT | and im debating wether to use playlist_peek or just to parse the playlist m3u file |
21:36:21 | tracktheripper | MT I have a good suggestion for you |
21:36:32 | MT | it pops up a keyboard, you enter "fleetwood" it shows you first ten tracks in the playlist that have fleetwood in their path |
21:36:49 | MT | you choose one in the list, it jumps to that point in the playlist |
21:37:21 | tracktheripper | Why don;t you include a feature like the Rio Riot, it makes playlists according to how often you play certain tracks |
21:37:32 | MT | because someone has already done that |
21:37:40 | MT | and |
21:37:42 | barker | haha |
21:37:45 | MT | i dont want that :) |
21:37:46 | tracktheripper | really? I can't find it yet |
21:37:57 | MT | opensource is all about scratching your own itches :) |
21:38:02 | tracktheripper | lol |
21:38:17 | tracktheripper | well i cannot program so someone has to do the programming for me :-) |
21:38:48 | MT | check the mailing list archives, i'm sure its been done |
21:38:55 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:39:10 | MT | neither can fred, doesnt stop him rolling out umpteen variant versions of rockbox ;) |
21:39:19 | tracktheripper | heehee |
21:39:21 | barker | hah |
21:39:47 | tracktheripper | I have a good suggestion MT |
21:40:18 | tracktheripper | A sort of "standby" mode so when you turn the Jukebox off then back on, it doesn't go through the Archos Jukebox Recorder boot-screen |
21:40:32 | tracktheripper | thereby saving battery power and booting faster |
21:40:48 | barker | That'd really cool. A quick-power-on. |
21:40:52 | barker | Like xp's suspend-to-ram |
21:40:56 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:40:59 | tracktheripper | exactly Barket |
21:41:01 | tracktheripper | Barker |
21:41:03 | barker | gg |
21:41:08 | tracktheripper | You will find it in Feature Requests |
21:41:11 | tracktheripper | I sent that request |
21:41:23 | barker | nomad zen has that feature. |
21:41:38 | barker | you hit power, you get music. |
21:41:39 | tracktheripper | don't you swear at me Barker!!! |
21:41:39 | tracktheripper | lol |
21:41:58 | tracktheripper | Is it hardware or firmware controlled though? |
21:42:06 | tracktheripper | this "standby" mode? |
21:42:23 | barker | I don't know, |
21:42:32 | tracktheripper | just wondered |
21:42:39 | tracktheripper | but it would be really handy to have |
21:42:40 | tracktheripper | lol |
21:43:09 | tracktheripper | I had a Creative Labs once and it was a POS |
21:44:27 | tracktheripper | only 4 hour battery life? You gotta be kidding! |
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21:44:56 | MT | while that would be a good feature, it would be impossible to do |
21:45:30 | tracktheripper | wjy?? |
21:45:34 | tracktheripper | why?? |
21:45:46 | MT | because the first bit of code we can execute is AFTER the original archos firmware has loaded off ROM, descrambled our firmware, and started to execute it |
21:45:57 | tracktheripper | right |
21:46:02 | MT | prior to that we have no control over anything |
21:46:06 | tracktheripper | so a "standby" mode isnt possible? |
21:46:21 | MT | hmm |
21:46:27 | barker | would it be possible to turn off the lcd |
21:46:30 | barker | and spindown the disk |
21:46:31 | MT | thats possible |
21:46:34 | barker | but still be ON |
21:46:38 | MT | possibly :) |
21:46:43 | MT | heh |
21:46:47 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:46:49 | barker | so you've got very minimal battery usage. |
21:47:23 | MT | you would need to talk to Linus or one of the other gurus about that tho, I'm very new at this embedded systems programming |
21:47:49 | tracktheripper | ohhhh |
21:48:11 | barker | kk |
21:48:12 | barker | and, i'm out. |
21:48:13 | barker | cya guys. |
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21:49:20 | SeeSchloss | wow ! current runtime : 21h 24min ! |
21:49:40 | tracktheripper | what batteries are u using SeeSchloss? |
21:49:43 | tracktheripper | 2000 Mah? |
21:49:52 | SeeSchloss | hmm I got an FM Recorder |
21:50:42 | tracktheripper | oh right |
21:50:50 | tracktheripper | that uses non-stantard batteries |
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21:51:25 | SeeSchloss | LiIon 2200mAh iirc ? |
21:52:06 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:52:15 | tracktheripper | my Archos has 1500 Mah NiMhs |
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21:52:46 | SeeSchloss | and what is your max runtime ? |
21:53:28 | tracktheripper | I get 10 hours out of mine |
21:54:23 | SeeSchloss | ok |
21:55:10 | tracktheripper | still much better than my old Creative Labs Nomad |
21:56:59 | SeeSchloss | ah ? the nomad doesn't have a good autonomy ? |
21:57:17 | tracktheripper | the Nomad has one hell of a crass battery life |
21:57:21 | tracktheripper | only 4 hours |
21:57:55 | tracktheripper | plus you can't drag and drop you have to use the ridicilous Playcenter software to send files to the Jukebopx |
21:58:47 | SeeSchloss | ah ok... well I think the Archos system is very good (recognized like an external disk) |
21:59:06 | tracktheripper | yea |
21:59:14 | tracktheripper | the Nomad is NOT recognised in My Computer |
21:59:36 | tracktheripper | I like the "feel" of the Archos compared to the Nomad |
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22:01:21 | tracktheripper | the Archos fits snugly in your hand |
22:01:24 | tracktheripper | unlike the Nomad |
22:03:39 | tracktheripper | heehee |
22:03:49 | SeeSchloss | hmm the Archos could be smaller and lighter... but it's always better than a cd player |
22:04:17 | tracktheripper | yea |
22:04:25 | tracktheripper | well the FM recorder is smaller and lighter |
22:04:51 | tracktheripper | but I feel the design of the FM recorder lacks the character of the normal Recorder |
22:05:35 | SeeSchloss | yes, but I prefer the fm design... |
22:05:57 | tracktheripper | I prefer the industrial design of the normal Recorder to the "melted Ipod" design of the FM recorder |
22:06:29 | SeeSchloss | I had a player before my fm and I think that the blue <don't know the english word>s were too big... |
22:06:47 | tracktheripper | they are NOT big :-) |
22:06:54 | tracktheripper | they are there for a few reasons |
22:07:26 | tracktheripper | those "blue" thingies you mention |
22:07:34 | PsycoXul | i think those bumpers are one of the more ingenious aspects of the archos design |
22:07:41 | tracktheripper | tea |
22:07:42 | tracktheripper | yea |
22:07:43 | PsycoXul | makes it much more rugged than any other mp3 player out there |
22:07:58 | SeeSchloss | hmm |
22:08:06 | PsycoXul | when i drop it, i'm not afraid it's gonna destroy the disk or shatter into a million pieces |
22:08:19 | tracktheripper | they a) add to the ruggedness of the Archos, they protect the hard drive and they give the Archos its distinctive look |
22:08:52 | tracktheripper | and b) blue suits the silver very well |
22:09:04 | PsycoXul | i'd rather they were black |
22:09:05 | PsycoXul | but oh well hehe |
22:09:10 | tracktheripper | yuck! |
22:09:15 | tracktheripper | blue looks better |
22:09:16 | PsycoXul | black goes with everything |
22:09:33 | tracktheripper | black and silver? you gotta be kidding! |
22:09:36 | PsycoXul | i'd also rather the whole casing was made of the brushed aluminum that the back piece is made of |
22:09:46 | tracktheripper | yea that would be cool |
22:09:49 | PsycoXul | and that it was unpainted |
22:09:57 | tracktheripper | but then again it would make it more prone to scratches |
22:10:03 | PsycoXul | that silver paint just looks silly, the brushed aluminum underneath looks better |
22:10:08 | tracktheripper | aluminium scratches easily |
22:10:19 | PsycoXul | ok so painted with a strong clear overcoat :p |
22:10:27 | tracktheripper | lol |
22:10:41 | tracktheripper | But do u another MP3 player that has "drag and drop" ease? |
22:10:52 | PsycoXul | i hate drag and drop |
22:10:58 | PsycoXul | i much prefer pattern matching |
22:11:05 | PsycoXul | but same difference :p |
22:11:15 | tracktheripper | Drag And Drop is soooo much easier |
22:11:29 | PsycoXul | there's a few others that do act like a generic disk |
22:11:33 | SeeSchloss | hmm packard bell made a mp3 player-usb key ;-) |
22:11:47 | tracktheripper | you try using Creative Labs Playcenter software |
22:11:52 | tracktheripper | you will be swearing in seconds :-) |
22:11:56 | SeeSchloss | it can not be compared to an Archos, but it has drag-and-drop |
22:12:26 | PsycoXul | personaly i prefer cp -R blah /mnt/jb |
22:12:32 | tracktheripper | but no other MP3 player has the thunderous sound quality like the Archos |
22:12:46 | PsycoXul | to having to scroll around and click a bunch of stuff and make wild mouse movements |
22:12:53 | tracktheripper | the Archos is for serious MP3 users (like me) |
22:12:57 | PsycoXul | but you can do either with the archos heh |
22:12:58 | SeeSchloss | lol |
22:13:31 | PsycoXul | and they're both better than some vendor-specific proprietary sync software |
22:13:37 | tracktheripper | yea |
22:13:49 | tracktheripper | 192kbs is the best setting for CD sound quality |
22:13:56 | SeeSchloss | PsycoXul > with a MP3 player that don't support drag and drop, you can't cp either |
22:14:07 | PsycoXul | SeeSchloss: right... well usualy anyway |
22:14:22 | tracktheripper | anything lower than 192kbs sounds shit, anything higher is pointless :-) |
22:14:33 | PsycoXul | you're more likely to be able to cp than drag&drop on one that doesn't do drag&drop in windows though heh |
22:14:48 | SeeSchloss | I don't think so... |
22:15:00 | PsycoXul | sure you are |
22:15:05 | tracktheripper | well I do SeeSchloss :-) |
22:15:05 | PsycoXul | if it's at all possible |
22:15:13 | SeeSchloss | those that don't drag and drop are not recognized as external disks, so you can't cp |
22:15:23 | PsycoXul | and the linux hax0rs can figure out how to do it |
22:15:24 | tracktheripper | 192kbs rules :-) |
22:15:26 | PsycoXul | then it'll be done |
22:15:26 | PsycoXul | heh |
22:15:31 | tracktheripper | heehee |
22:15:40 | PsycoXul | fat chance that any windows "hax0rs"'ll ever make it drag&drop though |
22:16:06 | PsycoXul | tracktheripper: optimal bitrate really does depend on content |
22:16:11 | SeeSchloss | no ! 56kbps encoded with wmp is the best !!! ;-) |
22:16:12 | PsycoXul | also on the encoder |
22:16:20 | tracktheripper | well Psycoxul 192kbs suits me for everything |
22:16:26 | SeeSchloss | they say "56kbps : CD quality" |
22:16:31 | tracktheripper | and im using the Franhofer codek |
22:16:42 | PsycoXul | yuk |
22:16:49 | PsycoXul | you realize that's optimized for 128kbps don't you? |
22:17:02 | tracktheripper | ive compared 192kbs compared to WAV files and I cannot tell the difference |
22:17:09 | SeeSchloss | hmm lame is the best, isn't it ? |
22:17:13 | PsycoXul | and that it won't be as good as lame 192kbps |
22:17:18 | tracktheripper | no Fraunhofer is better |
22:17:32 | PsycoXul | and that it'll also take a lot longer to encode :p |
22:17:37 | tracktheripper | do u know what Lame means? Lame Is Not An MP3 Encoder |
22:17:38 | PsycoXul | nah lame is best |
22:17:38 | PsycoXul | :p |
22:17:41 | tracktheripper | heehee |
22:17:47 | PsycoXul | yeah, and do you know why it means that? |
22:17:48 | tracktheripper | wrong, Fraunhofer is better |
22:17:57 | PsycoXul | cause it was originaly just a patch to the original iso encoder dist |
22:18:11 | PsycoXul | and it really wasn't an mp3 encoder; just a patch to one heh |
22:18:28 | tracktheripper | <−−- thinks Fraunhofer is best :-) |
22:18:41 | PsycoXul | i've been using it since those days when you had to seperately download the iso dist and the lame patch and build it yourself |
22:18:59 | tracktheripper | <−−- thinks Blade sounds dreadful |
22:19:11 | PsycoXul | yeah i used blade for a short while |
22:19:15 | PsycoXul | and gogo for a short while |
22:19:22 | tracktheripper | Blade is the worst MP3 encoder |
22:19:28 | PsycoXul | but i've always come back to lame |
22:19:33 | PsycoXul | lame is the king :p |
22:19:36 | tracktheripper | I used Blade once and wish I hadnt |
22:19:45 | tracktheripper | Wrong Fraunhofer is king :O |
22:19:47 | tracktheripper | :P |
22:20:10 | tracktheripper | yea Lame in both senses of the word :P |
22:20:11 | tracktheripper | heehee |
22:20:11 | tracktheripper | :) |
22:20:26 | PsycoXul | lame −−alt-preset standard 0wns j00 and j3r m0th3rs 4nus |
22:20:37 | PsycoXul | :p |
22:20:47 | tracktheripper | <−−- has used MP3s since they first started and still thinks Fraunhofer sounds better |
22:20:57 | PsycoXul | CBR is for people who don't know any better |
22:21:17 | tracktheripper | VBR is those who are picky about a lot of things |
22:21:37 | PsycoXul | if you wanna get down to it |
22:21:45 | tracktheripper | VBR is best left unmentioned |
22:21:47 | tracktheripper | heehee |
22:21:49 | PsycoXul | mp3 isn't for people who care about quality so much as much music |
22:22:14 | tracktheripper | PsycoXul we will never ever agree :-) |
22:22:18 | PsycoXul | and even for us... |
22:22:21 | PsycoXul | ogg is better :p |
22:22:21 | tracktheripper | so lets talk about something else :-) |
22:22:36 | tracktheripper | wrong, 192kbs MP3 is better :P |
22:22:47 | PsycoXul | no, ogg really is better |
22:22:59 | tracktheripper | ive heard 0gg and it is no better to MP3 |
22:23:09 | PsycoXul | you can't really argue, tests show conclusively that ogg is better quality:size |
22:23:23 | PsycoXul | or vorbis is rather |
22:23:24 | tracktheripper | well NOTHING will make me divorce from 192kbs MP3 |
22:23:26 | tracktheripper | heehee |
22:23:27 | tracktheripper | :-) |
22:23:28 | PsycoXul | ogg's just a container file format |
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22:23:47 | tracktheripper | well the Archos CANNOT play Ogg so there ;-) |
22:23:53 | PsycoXul | yeah |
22:23:56 | PsycoXul | my pda can... |
22:24:04 | PsycoXul | but it can't have 20G of storage |
22:24:12 | tracktheripper | well I have Soundforge that plays Ogg :-) |
22:25:05 | PsycoXul | and ogg wasn't at it's best till 1.0 |
22:25:11 | PsycoXul | and it'll probably still get better as it goes |
22:25:14 | tracktheripper | well Psycho lets end this argument and lets listen to WMA instead :-) |
22:25:18 | tracktheripper | heehee :-) |
22:25:26 | PsycoXul | hehe |
22:25:50 | PsycoXul | i'm running around egypt looking for a sheep |
22:25:53 | tracktheripper | do u wanna know what WMA stands for? |
22:26:18 | tracktheripper | Windows Messed-up Audio |
22:26:19 | tracktheripper | heehee |
22:26:20 | PsycoXul | heh |
22:26:34 | SeeSchloss | lol |
22:26:43 | tracktheripper | :-) |
22:26:56 | tracktheripper | you can always get Realizer if you think your compressed files sound shit |
22:27:17 | SeeSchloss | it's a ood thin that the Archos are not able to play wma... |
22:27:21 | SeeSchloss | Realizer ? |
22:27:35 | SeeSchloss | ood thin = good thing |
22:27:44 | tracktheripper | Realizer is a program that claims to "improve sound quality by restoring the frequencies lost by the MP3 compression" |
22:28:14 | SeeSchloss | hmm... and is it good ? |
22:28:19 | tracktheripper | No |
22:28:27 | SeeSchloss | ok lol |
22:28:32 | PsycoXul | of course in reality, nothing's gonna be able to magically put back things that aren't there |
22:28:37 | tracktheripper | Realizer = "Loudness On Ecstacy" |
22:29:15 | tracktheripper | heehee |
22:29:23 | tracktheripper | I sent that as a feature request once |
22:29:26 | PsycoXul | it makes a lot of noise and wants to hump your couch? |
22:29:41 | tracktheripper | ???? |
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22:30:04 | PsycoXul | :p |
22:30:11 | tracktheripper | well I agree with Zagor that Realizer is just snake oil |
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