| 00:00:25 | Norrin | LinusN: Sounds like something you and QInter should work out in private. Kidding. As long as it works, I'm not choosie. |
| 00:01:33 | QInter | LinusN: What a silly mistake. I'll will fix this. |
| 00:01:39 | LinusN | nikkelitous: i think winamp can use any format it wants, why should rockbox care? |
| 00:02:29 | LinusN | still, if someone writes a small bs4 parser, we can always add it to rockbox |
| 00:02:39 | Norrin | Does anyone know of any other fonts available for use with the Rockbox firmware besides what's on the Rockbox website? |
| 00:02:55 | LinusN | Norrin: any BDF font will do |
| 00:03:10 | LinusN | as long as it is smaller then 16 pixels |
| 00:04:14 | LinusN | read the text below the list of fonts on http://rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/ |
| 00:06:37 | nikkelitous | I think that Rockbox should accept new technology to improve itself. |
| 00:09:56 | nikkelitous | .B4S is a powerful new format. Easily parsed. I think it would be worth it to use it. |
| 00:10:31 | LinusN | what can be more easy to parse than m3u? |
| 00:12:02 | QInter | LinusN: I'm confused. The colon (−−> : ) is written by the cfg saver. |
| 00:12:15 | nikkelitous | Not much but it's easy enough to add .b4s support. |
| 00:15:56 | LinusN | do you know where i can find a b4s specification? |
| 00:20:27 | nikkelitous | Right now Nullsoft hasn't released one. |
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| 00:20:52 | nikkelitous | I can write one up or I can give you a M3U and B4S that have the same files. |
| 00:20:52 | LinusN | nikkelitous: so much for easily parsed, standard, open formats |
| 00:21:30 | nikkelitous | It's easy enough. |
| 00:21:34 | LinusN | 95% of the Winamp documentation is about skinning, talk about silly |
| 00:21:57 | Hadaka | heh, a fileformat without a specification? is that a joke? :) |
| 00:22:00 | LinusN | do you notice that i'm not a winamp fan? :-) |
| 00:22:32 | nikkelitous | Yeah. I figured. |
| 00:22:33 | nikkelitous | <entry Playstring="file:C:\Documents and Settings\Bryan\My Documents\My Music\12 Stones\12 Stones\03 - The Way I Feel.mp3"> |
| 00:22:33 | nikkelitous | <Name>12 Stones - The Way I Feel</Name> |
| 00:22:33 | DBUG | Sent KICK nikkelitous to server |
| 00:22:33 | nikkelitous | <Length>227325</Length> |
| 00:22:33 | nikkelitous | </entry> |
| 00:22:33 | Kick | (#rockbox nikkelitous :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
| 00:22:36 | Norrin | QInter/LinusN: I could have sworn the : wasn't there the first time. Sorry. Quick question, from the filename screen for saving the CFG file, what button do you push to save? |
| 00:22:38 | Hadaka | heh |
| 00:22:46 | Hadaka | XML parser in rockbox :) |
| 00:23:16 | QInter | Norrin: Try the ON button... |
| 00:23:19 | Hadaka | well I guess it was coming :) |
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| 00:23:30 | LinusN | hehe |
| 00:23:31 | nikkelitous | Oops |
| 00:23:32 | Norrin | Thanks. |
| 00:23:36 | nikkelitous | Didn't mean to send that. |
| 00:23:43 | nikkelitous | Just wanted to put it in my bar. |
| 00:23:53 | LinusN | so the playlist contains information that should be in the ID3 tags |
| 00:24:10 | QInter | Norrin: The second keyboard screen is used to enter a comment line. |
| 00:24:35 | Hadaka | LinusN: well, you can have different names for the same song in different playlists ;) |
| 00:24:37 | Norrin | QInter: Was wondering what that was. Cool. |
| 00:24:39 | nikkelitous | All playlists do that. |
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| 00:24:55 | Hadaka | err - m3u is just a list of files - it carries no extra information |
| 00:25:07 | nikkelitous | the .M3U spec allows for the info in a comment. |
| 00:25:10 | Norrin | Have a good night everyone, keep up the great work. Cheers. |
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| 00:25:26 | LinusN | Hadaka: well, the winamp perverted it to contain silly comments with all kinds of meta information |
| 00:25:44 | nikkelitous | It always had that meta information. |
| 00:25:54 | Hadaka | err |
| 00:26:12 | nikkelitous | But it was designed so that you don't have to read the ID3 tags. |
| 00:26:30 | nikkelitous | It was made so that you read 1 file and knew what you were playing. |
| 00:26:39 | nikkelitous | If you want to ignore that part you could. |
| 00:26:42 | LinusN | in my opinion, that info belongs in the mp3 file |
| 00:26:57 | Hadaka | anyway, this all touches a bit on a subject that's not solved by ID3 or ID3v2 tags alone |
| 00:27:16 | Hadaka | what people wish to play is not merely a list of files |
| 00:27:20 | LinusN | is there an .M3U specification? |
| 00:27:27 | nikkelitous | You could just have it find the song after the <entry Playstring=". |
| 00:27:36 | nikkelitous | Thats all thats needed. |
| 00:27:42 | LinusN | nikkelitous: true |
| 00:28:06 | Hadaka | nikkelitous: err, that's not too compatible - if someone formats it different, it will break |
| 00:28:22 | Hadaka | nikkelitous: if you want compatible reading of that format, you need to do XML parsing, and need to handle XML character escaping |
| 00:28:26 | nikkelitous | But the tags aren't formated. |
| 00:28:38 | LinusN | Hadaka: i doubt any tool but winamp will generate those playlists anyway |
| 00:28:55 | nikkelitous | Winamp is the only major supporter of it right now. |
| 00:28:57 | LinusN | not without a file format specification |
| 00:29:26 | Hadaka | the tag casing of that file is ludicrous :) |
| 00:29:31 | nikkelitous | The file spec is considered to be identical to XML. It just has a few tags. |
| 00:29:40 | Hadaka | huh? |
| 00:29:49 | Hadaka | the file format is XML |
| 00:29:59 | nikkelitous | Yeah |
| 00:30:04 | nikkelitous | Thats what I meant. |
| 00:30:05 | Hadaka | now what's missing is the XML-Schema or DTD for it |
| 00:30:12 | nikkelitous | I'm a man of many words. |
| 00:30:54 | Hadaka | anyway, parsing that would need an XML parser in rockbox - people have made rather small ones, so one could go look for it |
| 00:32:28 | nikkelitous | sourceforge has the worst search engine in existence. |
| 00:33:06 | LinusN | we won't find a generic xml parser that fits our needs |
| 00:33:18 | Hadaka | LinusN: err, why not? |
| 00:33:53 | Hadaka | I've heard one's that respect well-formedness and fit on 2-kilobyte rom-chips |
| 00:34:03 | Hadaka | brb, quick shower |
| 00:34:26 | LinusN | any generic xml parser will probably be feature packed, and use up all our RAM |
| 00:34:33 | nikkelitous | The smallest I have found is 10k. I'm still looking for more. |
| 00:35:22 | nikkelitous | I think that the goal should be under 5k. |
| 00:36:00 | LinusN | code size is not the issue |
| 00:36:14 | LinusN | it's how it uses the memory when parsing |
| 00:37:08 | nikkelitous | Yeah |
| 00:37:28 | nikkelitous | But that isn't easy to figure out unless you compile and run it. |
| 00:38:06 | LinusN | or read the source |
| 00:38:27 | LinusN | for example, dynamic memory is out of the question |
| 00:38:33 | nikkelitous | Yeah. |
| 00:38:44 | nikkelitous | Reading the source takes a long time. |
| 00:39:23 | Hadaka | LinusN: there are memory concervative ones as well |
| 00:39:29 | Hadaka | and feature-packedness is neither an issue |
| 00:39:53 | Hadaka | a suitable XML parser would be something that cannot crash, respects the well-formedness requirement, and gives out simple character entities |
| 00:40:19 | Hadaka | all the DTD support, named entity support, external entity support, default argument support and charset support can go |
| 00:40:35 | MT | id prefer not to have any of my 12 MHz being used to parse xml ta |
| 00:40:56 | Hadaka | MT: oh yes, parsing text is so much better |
| 00:41:11 | nikkelitous | If you don't use the .B4S files then it wont be parsed. |
| 00:41:34 | MT | i fail to see the benefit over m3u tbh |
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| 00:42:01 | LinusN | MT: me too |
| 00:42:01 | nikkelitous | It is supposed to be more flexible. |
| 00:42:16 | nikkelitous | I don't know about that though. |
| 00:42:26 | MT | whats more flexible than a newline seperated list of file? |
| 00:42:27 | Hadaka | right now, there's no reason to implement b4s support |
| 00:42:33 | LinusN | i think it's more like XML masturbation |
| 00:42:38 | Hadaka | MT: something that can have a variable amount of metadata |
| 00:42:47 | LinusN | it's a hype thing imho |
| 00:43:09 | MT | along with 90% of xml |
| 00:43:10 | LinusN | xml is a quite flexible format |
| 00:43:31 | Hadaka | anyway, it might be considered if there starts to be a reasonable amount of b4s files around and that users are really bothered by having to convert them |
| 00:43:43 | LinusN | Hadaka: agreed |
| 00:43:44 | Hadaka | what rockbox would want out of b4s is just the filenames anyway |
| 00:44:11 | Hadaka | atleast until rockbox grows some real jukebox capabilities |
| 00:44:14 | nikkelitous | Yeah. |
| 00:44:23 | MT | it would almost certainly be easier to supply a tool to convert to m3u |
| 00:44:32 | LinusN | not for the user |
| 00:44:50 | nikkelitous | I think that making the tool might be the easiest step. |
| 00:45:03 | nikkelitous | I'll see if there are any out there. |
| 00:45:20 | Hadaka | heh, writing one takes less than 5 minutes :) |
| 00:45:46 | Hadaka | perl, python, xslt - take your pick :) |
| 00:46:08 | LinusN | i choose perl |
| 00:46:16 | nikkelitous | If only I knew any of those scripting languages. |
| 00:46:20 | LinusN | regex rox |
| 00:46:37 | Hadaka | err, you don't want to use regexps here, you want to use XML parsing :) |
| 00:47:05 | nikkelitous | I only have intermediate C/C++ knowledge. |
| 00:47:09 | LinusN | i only want the filename tag, easily extracted with a regexp |
| 00:47:19 | nikkelitous | or grep |
| 00:47:36 | LinusN | grep | sed |
| 00:47:42 | Hadaka | LinusN: nope - take into account character entities, attribute escaping, odd places for newlines and other bogosities that may be in the file |
| 00:48:36 | LinusN | Hadaka: yes, that is possible, but i don't think winamp will generate the files like that |
| 00:49:05 | LinusN | but sure, i guess there is an xml parser at CPAN |
| 00:49:17 | nikkelitous | There are a few other programs that are beginning to use .B4S |
| 00:50:24 | LinusN | i think B4S should be avoided until there is a specification |
| 00:50:47 | LinusN | i hate de facto file formats, like m3u for i nstance |
| 00:54:02 | nikkelitous | Well... I'll toss a message off to Nullsoft asking for a finished spec. |
| 00:54:23 | LinusN | do that |
| 00:54:26 | Hadaka | a DTD is enough |
| 00:54:39 | LinusN | yeah, it should be enough |
| 00:56:57 | QInter | Time to sleep, have a good night everyone. |
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| 00:57:34 | nikkelitous | Hey. Can I get an estimate on the number of people that use RockBox? |
| 00:58:20 | LinusN | i have no clue |
| 00:58:55 | nikkelitous | Ahh. Ok. |
| 00:59:09 | nikkelitous | Are there any usage statistics that you have? |
| 01:00 |
| 01:02:50 | LinusN | only download stats |
| 01:03:18 | nikkelitous | Can I see them? |
| 01:03:56 | LinusN | i don't have them, bagder has them |
| 01:04:03 | nikkelitous | Oh ok. |
| 01:04:53 | nikkelitous | And one question that has been annoying me. In the features list it says that, while the Archos firmware supports VBRI header, Rockbox doesn't. What is a VBRI header? |
| 01:06:32 | Hadaka | hehe: |
| 01:06:37 | Hadaka | $ wc m4s2m3u.pl |
| 01:06:37 | Hadaka | 8 33 210 m4s2m3u.pl |
| 01:06:55 | nikkelitous | heh |
| 01:07:28 | Hadaka | hmh, I think I could fit this within 75 characters if I tried ;) |
| 01:07:32 | LinusN | nikkelitous: a vbri header is a header in VBR files encoded by the Fraunhofer encoder |
| 01:07:35 | nikkelitous | In C++ it would be at least 120 lines. |
| 01:07:44 | nikkelitous | Ahh. So what does it do? |
| 01:07:59 | Hadaka | converts m4s to m3u? |
| 01:08:43 | nikkelitous | b4s but yeah. |
| 01:08:46 | nikkelitous | At least. |
| 01:08:47 | LinusN | it contains the number of frames in the file, and a table that tells where in the file to seek for specific points in time |
| 01:08:56 | nikkelitous | Ahh. |
| 01:09:04 | Hadaka | oh, the header, right :) |
| 01:09:09 | Hadaka | sorry :) |
| 01:09:28 | LinusN | Xing headers do the same thing, but different, and more important WITH A PUBLIC SPECIFICATION |
| 01:09:29 | nikkelitous | No I meant that the converter would be at least 120 lines in C++ |
| 01:09:39 | nikkelitous | Thats a good thing. |
| 01:09:56 | LinusN | i have written code that parses vbri headers |
| 01:10:09 | LinusN | i just haven't integrated it into Rockbox |
| 01:10:10 | nikkelitous | So rockbox supports the Xing but not the VBRI? |
| 01:10:32 | LinusN | soon vbri too, without the Table Of Contents |
| 01:10:40 | nikkelitous | So people who use the VBRI can't FF a file? |
| 01:10:49 | nikkelitous | Until your code gets in. |
| 01:10:56 | LinusN | they can, it will not be 100% accurate |
| 01:14:47 | Hadaka | I must say that XML parsing with perl is trivial as hell :) |
| 01:14:53 | LinusN | nice |
| 01:15:14 | LinusN | you needed an extra package? |
| 01:15:23 | Hadaka | use XML::Parser; my $p = new XML::Parser(Style => 'Subs'); $p->parse(STDIN); sub entry { my (undef,undef,@a) = @_; lc shift @a eq "playstring" ? print "".(shift @a)."\n" : shift @a; } |
| 01:15:24 | LinusN | or was it part of the distro? |
| 01:15:33 | Hadaka | XML::Parser should be part of the base nowadays, I think |
| 01:15:38 | LinusN | nice indeed |
| 01:16:03 | LinusN | Hadaka: tidy it up a little, and submit it |
| 01:16:33 | Hadaka | oh come on, it's a 5 minute hack, let it rest in peace :) |
| 01:16:48 | LinusN | :-) |
| 01:17:17 | LinusN | my clock stopped at 6:34 |
| 01:17:38 | LinusN | a 6:34-minute hack |
| 01:17:46 | LinusN | :-) |
| 01:18:29 | Hadaka | heh :) |
| 01:27:52 | ScottE | The rockbock source is well written and very hackable. Thank you! |
| 01:28:45 | LinusN | ScottE: thank you, we really try to KISS it |
| 01:28:50 | ScottE | s/ock/ox of course... eep |
| 01:28:55 | LinusN | Keep It Simple Stupid |
| 01:29:16 | ScottE | Well, I see some really bad code in my day job. I wish this is the sort of stuff I got to see more often :) |
| 01:30:34 | LinusN | we see rockbox as a kind of therapy in that respect :-) |
| 01:30:48 | LinusN | it's nice to be able to do it right for once |
| 01:30:58 | ScottE | I can understand that! |
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| 02:21:05 | Zakk1 | Hello |
| 02:22:05 | Zakk1 | I have a question about rockbox |
| 02:22:39 | PsycoXul | hi. i have a statement about questions regarding rockbox. |
| 02:23:00 | Zakk1 | It's just a simple one |
| 02:23:14 | PsycoXul | so is this |
| 02:23:22 | Zakk1 | What? |
| 02:23:34 | PsycoXul | ask your questions instead of announcing them. |
| 02:23:44 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 02:23:53 | Zakk1 | Sorry, I though it wasn't working correctly |
| 02:24:06 | PsycoXul | thats ok, i'm just being silly |
| 02:24:18 | PsycoXul | lots of people come on and announce the fact that they have questions |
| 02:24:39 | Zakk1 | Okay, well my question was this: Does the accidental 'harddrive password error' happen often, or just sometimes, or not at all often? |
| 02:24:52 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 02:24:56 | Zakk1 | It's sort of keeping me from upgrading my Jukebox Recorder |
| 02:25:03 | PsycoXul | afaik, that was something that happened durring a particular stage of development |
| 02:25:11 | PsycoXul | i don't think i've heard of it happening any time recently |
| 02:25:22 | PsycoXul | and it's not hard to fix when it does, the instructions are there somewhere |
| 02:25:22 | Zakk1 | So it's basically a fixed bug? |
| 02:25:29 | Zakk1 | Yes yes. |
| 02:25:37 | PsycoXul | it's never happened to me |
| 02:25:53 | Zakk1 | Just the thought of disassembling my Archos, buying an adapter, all that he-haw |
| 02:26:17 | Zakk1 | And it's reversible and all, right? So I could remove it without a trace? |
| 02:26:18 | PsycoXul | oh you don't even need to do all that i don't think |
| 02:26:31 | PsycoXul | there's a patch to the linux driver that'll do it automatically when you hook it up to USB |
| 02:26:34 | Zakk1 | That's all I thought you could do. |
| 02:26:44 | Zakk1 | Even if you're not on Linux? |
| 02:26:54 | PsycoXul | i imagine there's something that's similarly easy for windows |
| 02:27:20 | Zakk1 | I'm not thinking much of it anymore |
| 02:27:30 | PsycoXul | and if all else fails, you could always make a little linux installation to fix it with before going out and buying stuff and taking things appart etc |
| 02:27:33 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:27:36 | Zakk1 | Seems there's just more and more people talking about how excellent it is ;) |
| 02:27:56 | PsycoXul | and yeah very few people ever experienced it, and like i said, i haven't heard of anybody recently having it |
| 02:28:23 | PsycoXul | i wouldn't worry about it |
| 02:28:32 | PsycoXul | and yes, rockbox is excellent |
| 02:28:34 | * | PsycoXul loves it |
| 02:28:52 | Zakk1 | Yeah it looks awesomely excellent |
| 02:29:15 | Zakk1 | And so if by any chance my Archos died at anytime, even after installation and uninstallation of RockBox, if Best Buy interrogated the thing, would they know that Rockbox was installed? |
| 02:29:31 | Zakk1 | Y'know, still have that 4-year warranty! |
| 02:29:43 | PsycoXul | all i've heard about bestbuy servicing the archos' |
| 02:29:55 | PsycoXul | is that somebody took a player to them |
| 02:29:58 | PsycoXul | and they gave them back a recorder |
| 02:30:02 | PsycoXul | and then they took the recorder in |
| 02:30:02 | Zakk1 | They don't even take it out of the box you return it in |
| 02:30:05 | PsycoXul | and got an FM recorder back |
| 02:30:05 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:30:09 | Zakk1 | Cool |
| 02:30:16 | Zakk1 | Yeah that was the guarantee |
| 02:30:38 | Zakk1 | "If it gets outdated and dies within the 4-year service plan, we'll replace it with the latest model!" |
| 02:30:44 | PsycoXul | i don't think they'll even know how to see that rockbox is on there or is anything other than what should be on there |
| 02:30:54 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 02:30:56 | PsycoXul | i need to take mine in |
| 02:31:01 | PsycoXul | it's not charging the batteries anymore |
| 02:31:08 | Zakk1 | What do you have? |
| 02:31:12 | PsycoXul | i've got a studio20 |
| 02:31:13 | Zakk1 | Recorder 20gb? |
| 02:31:16 | PsycoXul | basically just a 20g player |
| 02:31:17 | Zakk1 | studio eh? |
| 02:31:22 | PsycoXul | so maybe i'll get a 20g FM recorder back |
| 02:31:23 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 02:31:27 | PsycoXul | be a nice upgrade |
| 02:31:29 | Zakk1 | Perhaps |
| 02:31:31 | ScottE | Zakk1: To downgrade from rockbox, all you have to do is delete the .rockbox directory and ajbrec.ajz file. That's it... no traces left, and it will boot factory firmware like before. |
| 02:31:41 | ScottE | But, you won't want to... :) |
| 02:31:42 | Zakk1 | Cool |
| 02:31:46 | Zakk1 | I know I wont |
| 02:31:54 | Zakk1 | BUt I will use rolo occasionally |
| 02:32:04 | Zakk1 | For recording purposes only. |
| 02:32:37 | Zakk1 | Oh, and to make sure you get the FM Recorder upgrade.... ;) there's a way to do so |
| 02:32:49 | Zakk1 | Remeber this |
| 02:33:11 | PsycoXul | bbl dinner |
| 02:33:15 | Zakk1 | Beforehand go into the aisle, pick out all the Studio models and stuff 'em behind a rack |
| 02:33:25 | Zakk1 | They won't know about it |
| 02:33:26 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 02:33:38 | Zakk1 | What they gotta do ;) |
| 02:33:49 | PsycoXul | i sorta doubt they even have them anymore |
| 02:33:54 | PsycoXul | but i'll be sure to check when i bring it in hehe |
| 02:34:00 | Zakk1 | I know I didn't see em recently |
| 02:34:07 | Zakk1 | TRy and stuff the Recorders too |
| 02:34:20 | Zakk1 | Even try to get a Multimedia lol |
| 02:34:50 | PsycoXul | heheheh |
| 02:35:01 | PsycoXul | yeah but the multimedia doesn't support rockbox |
| 02:35:10 | Zakk1 | Forget it! |
| 02:35:12 | PsycoXul | and probably won't, since it's an entirely different machine |
| 02:35:25 | PsycoXul | anyway, my salad's waiting for me |
| 02:35:27 | Zakk1 | They have to exchange it for whatever they have that's the cheapest and lowest model |
| 02:35:30 | Zakk1 | Alright |
| 02:35:54 | Zakk1 | If the FM Recorder is that, then may it be. |
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| 02:40:16 | Zakk1 | Oh and by the way, anyone, do you plan to add a record feature to the Rockbox? |
| 02:42:20 | MT | its there already? |
| 02:44:33 | Zakk1 | Not that I know of |
| 02:44:40 | Zakk1 | From what you said anyhows |
| 02:44:58 | Zakk1 | By 'you' I mean the website, rockbox.haxx.se |
| 02:47:43 | Zakk1 | Looks like you guys've come a long way. |
| 02:48:26 | Zakk1 | From disassembling the code, to playing 4 seconds of audio, to scrolling some text, to having the entire thing 5x better than the Archos firmware. |
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| 03:00:08 | MT | er, main menu, recording :) |
| 03:00:21 | Zakk1 | In RockBox? |
| 03:00:28 | MT | yes indeed |
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| 03:00:40 | MT | heh |
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| 03:00:53 | Zakk1 | Opps |
| 03:00:59 | Zakk1 | In v1.4? |
| 03:01:33 | Zakk1 | Or the not-yet released 1.5? |
| 03:02:12 | MT | oh, 1.4 is ancient :) |
| 03:02:19 | MT | its the not yet released 2.0 |
| 03:02:24 | MT | that is fully released |
| 03:02:25 | MT | :) |
| 03:02:27 | Zakk1 | Oh heh can't wait |
| 03:02:33 | Zakk1 | It's release? |
| 03:02:35 | MT | well download a daily build |
| 03:02:39 | Zakk1 | Oh |
| 03:02:59 | Zakk1 | Is it buggy? |
| 03:03:56 | Zakk1 | And how do I? Is it that .tar.gz file or whatever, or the plain .ajbrec? |
| 03:04:10 | MT | what model do you have? |
| 03:04:16 | Zakk1 | Recorder 20GB |
| 03:04:36 | MT | http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recorder/ajbrec.ajz |
| 03:04:51 | Zakk1 | Let me see for myself |
| 03:05:02 | Zakk1 | What new features? |
| 03:05:49 | Zakk1 | So if one wanted, could I put in a firmware folder, running 2.0 and be able to have 1.4 in there as well as Archos Original? |
| 03:05:56 | MT | yep |
| 03:06:07 | MT | its not 'officially' 2.0 |
| 03:06:18 | MT | but theres not much missing over it |
| 03:06:19 | Zakk1 | Well, the next step up ;) |
| 03:06:29 | MT | and the stuff that is in there works a lot better than 1.4 |
| 03:06:40 | Zakk1 | Still a screensaver? |
| 03:06:49 | MT | all the bugs that have been fixed since 1.4 are in there |
| 03:06:52 | MT | and thats a lot |
| 03:06:56 | Zakk1 | Heh I like that... a SCREENSAVER... wow |
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| 03:08:01 | Zakk1 | So there's all the same features, if not new ones, and mainly bugs fixed, including the non-record one? |
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| 03:11:34 | nikkelitous | I HATE Windows |
| 03:13:08 | Zakk1 | Why? |
| 03:13:18 | Zakk1 | Oh oh oh you wanna switch to Mac? |
| 03:13:51 | PsycoXul | OSX seems pretty nice |
| 03:13:59 | Zakk1 | Haha |
| 03:14:04 | Zakk1 | Got a pretty hilario video |
| 03:14:11 | PsycoXul | i liked that i could pop up a term and run bash |
| 03:14:12 | Zakk1 | Parody |
| 03:14:13 | Zakk1 | http://home.attbi.com/~webposts/Switch-384.wmv |
| 03:14:20 | Zakk1 | watch it lol |
| 03:16:27 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:16:52 | Zakk1 | Gets me every time |
| 03:16:58 | PsycoXul | http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchlinux |
| 03:17:00 | PsycoXul | i like that one better |
| 03:17:15 | PsycoXul | here's another paradoy specific to mac http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchback |
| 03:18:38 | Zakk1 | Oh yeah seen them too |
| 03:19:09 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:19:13 | Zakk1 | If you wanted to see a downright corny something, hang on a sec... |
| 03:19:15 | PsycoXul | "my dad used to beat me... with his.. PC" |
| 03:19:36 | Zakk1 | ha |
| 03:19:49 | Zakk1 | I just don't see why everybody doesn't run Linux |
| 03:20:08 | Zakk1 | He he, I guess then they'd all be supervillians |
| 03:20:18 | Zakk1 | I'm steve, and I'm a supervillian. |
| 03:20:26 | Zakk1 | Is that right? Steve? |
| 03:20:53 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 03:22:34 | Zakk1 | go to onetrick.net, on the side there's a Switch thing, click the '1' and watch em and then the '2' and watch em |
| 03:22:43 | Zakk1 | A bit off the 'Switch' point, but... |
| 03:23:13 | nikkelitous | I like Macs. |
| 03:23:16 | nikkelitous | OSX is cool. |
| 03:24:19 | Zakk1 | Not bad, I actually might like it if I had it |
| 03:24:32 | nikkelitous | I especially like how it's unix based. |
| 03:24:50 | Zakk1 | Seems near creash-proof |
| 03:25:08 | Zakk1 | Just Like XP (JLXP) |
| 03:25:18 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:25:19 | PsycoXul | XP sucks |
| 03:25:19 | Zakk1 | XP seems less crash proof than OSX though |
| 03:25:29 | Zakk1 | What are you running |
| 03:25:33 | PsycoXul | XP still crashes and does dumb shit a lot |
| 03:25:35 | PsycoXul | i use linux |
| 03:25:40 | PsycoXul | my mom and stepdad both have XP boxes though |
| 03:25:50 | PsycoXul | it's better than win98, which is what they had before |
| 03:25:51 | Zakk1 | Hm |
| 03:25:59 | PsycoXul | but not so much better as to call it near crash-proof |
| 03:26:00 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:26:02 | nikkelitous | I use XP but only cause it plays my games. |
| 03:26:13 | PsycoXul | linux plays my games |
| 03:26:16 | PsycoXul | and better than windows at that |
| 03:26:31 | PsycoXul | but i only play a few games |
| 03:26:32 | Zakk1 | TuxRacer |
| 03:26:35 | PsycoXul | actualy only atitd lately |
| 03:26:38 | Zakk1 | fun fun fun |
| 03:26:45 | PsycoXul | i used to play q3 and q3ut2 a lot |
| 03:26:49 | PsycoXul | but got sick of it |
| 03:26:50 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:26:54 | nikkelitous | Move to Iceland |
| 03:27:17 | Zakk1 | Do you 'like' Linux, Psyco? |
| 03:28:09 | nikkelitous | I have to run again. |
| 03:28:10 | PsycoXul | i love linux |
| 03:28:10 | PsycoXul | heh |
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| 03:28:17 | Zakk1 | Profusely? |
| 03:28:23 | PsycoXul | i started with redhad in march of 98 |
| 03:28:26 | PsycoXul | redhat even |
| 03:28:31 | PsycoXul | and currently am running LFS |
| 03:28:34 | Zakk1 | Stuck with it all this time? |
| 03:28:37 | PsycoXul | (linux-from-scratch, if you don't know) |
| 03:28:51 | PsycoXul | in other words, i've built my own linux system from scratch heh |
| 03:28:57 | Zakk1 | Cool |
| 03:28:57 | PsycoXul | compiling every piece of software myself |
| 03:29:08 | PsycoXul | indeed, i'd say i love it profusely :p |
| 03:29:16 | Zakk1 | haha |
| 03:29:21 | PsycoXul | now i'm more frustrated with the primitive state of computers in general than my OS |
| 03:29:27 | Zakk1 | That's completely respectable |
| 03:29:34 | PsycoXul | nothing i can do about that though |
| 03:29:44 | Zakk1 | I like... the erm, screensavers, yeah.... |
| 03:29:50 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:29:55 | PsycoXul | i don't |
| 03:29:56 | Zakk1 | Uh huh they are 'in tha howse' |
| 03:29:59 | PsycoXul | i just use a blank screen |
| 03:30:01 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 03:30:06 | Zakk1 | They're different! |
| 03:30:18 | PsycoXul | too much CPU to use for something that only runs when nobody's looking |
| 03:30:29 | Zakk1 | Oh wow |
| 03:30:38 | Zakk1 | And when no one's looking, the computer's doing nothing. |
| 03:30:45 | PsycoXul | not necessarily |
| 03:30:46 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 03:30:48 | Zakk1 | So what's the biggie dealie? |
| 03:30:55 | Zakk1 | Like burning my backup archos at 6X |
| 03:31:48 | Zakk1 | So what do you do for the Rockbox team, Psyco? |
| 03:32:09 | PsycoXul | uh |
| 03:32:11 | Zakk1 | I like the look of your double-line-test thingy |
| 03:32:20 | PsycoXul | i sent a couple little patches some time ago |
| 03:32:21 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:32:33 | Zakk1 | Thus you're a member? |
| 03:32:37 | PsycoXul | i wrote some code for other crap on my own that they looked at and gave me credit for, and probably didn't do anything... |
| 03:32:44 | PsycoXul | er probably didn't do anything with |
| 03:32:54 | PsycoXul | and uh contributed ideas and encouragement |
| 03:32:54 | Zakk1 | Hey could I do that lol |
| 03:32:55 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:33:08 | PsycoXul | and yeah i've done testing of things like that and stuff |
| 03:33:18 | PsycoXul | and testing in general :p |
| 03:33:23 | DBUG | Sent KICK Zakk1 to server |
| 03:33:23 | Zakk1 | I would love to test. |
| 03:33:23 | Kick | (#rockbox Zakk1 :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
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| 03:33:38 | PsycoXul | heh :p |
| 03:33:41 | Zakk1 | Oops |
| 03:33:52 | Zakk1 | Sorry logbot, heh |
| 03:34:33 | Zakk1 | be RIGHT back |
| 03:34:46 | Zakk1 | n/m |
| 03:35:57 | PsycoXul | The "suspicious figure" video was borderline retarded. Eat a bowl of dicks. Thanks. |
| 03:36:01 | PsycoXul | anonymous 12/10 |
| 03:36:03 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:37:17 | PsycoXul | i'm downloading that one right now |
| 03:40:52 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:40:55 | PsycoXul | it was pretty dumb :p |
| 03:40:56 | Zakk1 | It's okay |
| 03:41:06 | Zakk1 | Last one's funny |
| 03:41:09 | Zakk1 | Did you see it? |
| 03:41:14 | PsycoXul | almost done |
| 03:41:23 | Zakk1 | d/ling? |
| 03:41:27 | Zakk1 | or playing? |
| 03:41:31 | PsycoXul | dling |
| 03:41:42 | Zakk1 | Not that funny but oh well |
| 03:41:46 | Zakk1 | Off the topic too |
| 03:42:17 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 03:42:28 | PsycoXul | reminds me of a guy i know in spain |
| 03:42:35 | PsycoXul | he's "gay" |
| 03:42:54 | PsycoXul | but doesn't like getting it up the butt |
| 03:43:01 | PsycoXul | and has never done it |
| 03:43:04 | PsycoXul | nor has he done it to anybody else |
| 03:43:05 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:43:10 | Zakk1 | Weird |
| 03:43:13 | PsycoXul | or afaik had any sexual experience with another guy |
| 03:43:14 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:43:35 | Zakk1 | My name is ____, and,.... I'm gay. |
| 03:44:41 | Zakk1 | Running man's pertty good |
| 03:44:47 | Zakk1 | "FIDDLE STICKS!!!" |
| 03:45:18 | Zakk1 | Where do they get the Mac Switch music anyways? |
| 03:45:24 | Zakk1 | I like it, it's catch |
| 03:45:30 | PsycoXul | dunno |
| 03:45:35 | PsycoXul | i never seen any of the real commercials that i recall |
| 03:45:36 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:45:44 | Zakk1 | Like, du dum da dum dum, da dada da da da da la dada da |
| 03:45:55 | Zakk1 | da dada tada |
| 03:46:03 | Zakk1 | yah-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta |
| 03:46:31 | Zakk1 | So you say the HD Password has been last seen near a year ago? |
| 03:46:47 | PsycoXul | afaik, something like that yeah |
| 03:46:54 | Zakk1 | good |
| 03:47:06 | PsycoXul | maybe you wanna search the mailing list... |
| 03:47:09 | Zakk1 | And recording's implemented into the Daily Build's version? |
| 03:47:13 | PsycoXul | yes |
| 03:47:34 | PsycoXul | it's still not full-featured, but it's there and works, and works better than the archos firmware according to what i've heard lately |
| 03:47:53 | Zakk1 | So it's NOT the same as the 1.4 version of Rockbox! |
| 03:48:04 | PsycoXul | oh definately not |
| 03:48:06 | Zakk1 | With a few added features, is it? |
| 03:48:10 | PsycoXul | a lot's changed since 1.4 |
| 03:48:10 | Zakk1 | It's way different? |
| 03:48:14 | PsycoXul | well i mean |
| 03:48:16 | Zakk1 | And a lot's missing? |
| 03:48:17 | PsycoXul | it's not like totally new |
| 03:48:24 | PsycoXul | just a lot of new stuff |
| 03:48:26 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 03:48:27 | Zakk1 | But are the old things there? |
| 03:48:30 | PsycoXul | and bugfixes and stuff |
| 03:48:40 | Zakk1 | So is it OLD with BUGFIXES and new FEATURES? |
| 03:48:47 | Zakk1 | Or NEW with NOTHING OLD |
| 03:48:49 | PsycoXul | i think they're planning on releasing 2.0 here in the near future |
| 03:48:57 | PsycoXul | it's not a rewrite, if thats what you're asking |
| 03:49:05 | PsycoXul | it's still the same firmware, just with new stuff and bugfixes |
| 03:49:06 | Zakk1 | Just anything added to it? |
| 03:49:09 | Zakk1 | Great |
| 03:49:12 | Zakk1 | SAme games? |
| 03:49:16 | PsycoXul | afaik... |
| 03:49:22 | PsycoXul | the player doesn't have games so heh |
| 03:49:27 | Zakk1 | Yes |
| 03:49:34 | Zakk1 | Snake, tetris and sokoban |
| 03:52:11 | Zakk1 | Thanks a bunch for all the answers to my questions and for occupying me while I was bored |
| 03:52:23 | Zakk1 | I have to go for a bit now, but I might pop in a bit later |
| 03:54:14 | PsycoXul | hehe ok |
| 03:54:15 | PsycoXul | np |
| 03:54:20 | Zakk1 | `thanksagainbyebyenow |
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| 04:29:05 | Zakk1 | Just so you know, I'm here. |
| 04:29:33 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:29:36 | PsycoXul | hi |
| 04:29:52 | Zakk1 | Hi again |
| 04:35:31 | Zakk1 | Did you say that you have a studio model, Psyco? |
| 04:36:27 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 04:36:46 | Zakk1 | So that differs greatly Rockboxwise from the Recorder |
| 04:37:02 | Zakk1 | With the bigger dots, and different interface right? |
| 04:37:05 | PsycoXul | the studio's just a player |
| 04:37:22 | PsycoXul | just like the original archos jukebox 6000 |
| 04:37:30 | Zakk1 | You're right. Get it exchanged hehe |
| 04:37:39 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 04:37:45 | PsycoXul | yeah |
| 04:37:50 | PsycoXul | not just bigger dots |
| 04:37:54 | PsycoXul | it's charcell |
| 04:38:00 | PsycoXul | 2 lines of 11 chars |
| 04:38:02 | Zakk1 | Yeah that SUCKS |
| 04:38:20 | Zakk1 | The recorder, though, has like 7 lines and stuff |
| 04:38:48 | PsycoXul | the recorder has a bitmap screen |
| 04:38:57 | PsycoXul | so the number of lines depends on the font you're using hehe |
| 04:39:11 | Zakk1 | Remeber the tip I gave you - hide all Studios and Recorders if the FM recorder is available. And if it's not hide anything inferior to the top-of-the-liniest model you can get ;) |
| 04:39:23 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 04:39:46 | PsycoXul | actualy i think the bestbuy here keeps them all locked up |
| 04:39:54 | PsycoXul | but i'm not sure, they've changed stuff a few times |
| 04:39:56 | Zakk1 | Not at mine! |
| 04:40:24 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:40:29 | PsycoXul | man i came up with this thing on my guitar |
| 04:40:32 | Zakk1 | That's unfair. |
| 04:40:38 | PsycoXul | and then i used a software drum machine to make up a drum track for it... |
| 04:40:43 | PsycoXul | and when i try to play along with it |
| 04:40:46 | PsycoXul | it really doesn't go at all |
| 04:40:46 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:40:53 | Zakk1 | What doesnt? |
| 04:41:00 | Zakk1 | On the Studio you mean? |
| 04:41:02 | PsycoXul | no |
| 04:41:10 | PsycoXul | nothing to do with the studio |
| 04:41:19 | Zakk1 | What are you talking about? |
| 04:41:22 | PsycoXul | studio's just a dumb name they gave that, it's really just a player with a 20G harddrive |
| 04:41:28 | Zakk1 | Yeah |
| 04:41:54 | PsycoXul | i'm talking a thing i came up with on my guitar, and a drum track i made in a software drum machine to play it along with, and the 2 just don't mesh when i finaly tried to play along with the drum track heh |
| 04:42:17 | Zakk1 | Not fitting together eh? |
| 04:42:39 | PsycoXul | nope |
| 04:42:57 | Zakk1 | You must've heard it beforehand that it shouldn't fit... |
| 04:43:23 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:43:34 | PsycoXul | nah i came up with a beat while playing it that seemed like it'd go |
| 04:43:40 | PsycoXul | and so then i sat down and did the beat |
| 04:43:51 | PsycoXul | though i doubt the implimentation was the same as i had in my head exactly |
| 04:43:51 | Zakk1 | And it didn't go? |
| 04:43:57 | Zakk1 | Ha |
| 04:44:05 | PsycoXul | and getting the bpm right i dunno heh |
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| 04:44:31 | Zakk1 | Tough stuff |
| 04:44:35 | CW-EGM92 | Hey guys |
| 04:44:59 | CW-EGM92 | umm do u guys do firmware for multimedia players also? |
| 04:45:02 | Zakk1 | Hello |
| 04:45:06 | Zakk1 | No they don't sorry |
| 04:46:07 | CW-EGM92 | damn, I just sold my JB and I was wondering if you guys still did, you guys really should!!, ARCHOS FIRMWARE LICKS SACK! |
| 04:46:18 | Zakk1 | I'll second that |
| 04:46:19 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:46:25 | Zakk1 | I have the Recorder |
| 04:46:27 | PsycoXul | the jbmm is a totally different machine |
| 04:46:32 | PsycoXul | it needs whole new firmware |
| 04:46:36 | Zakk1 | Not a SINGLE UPDATE since June 8th, the release date |
| 04:46:58 | Zakk1 | Are you gonna be working on that, Psyco? |
| 04:47:00 | CW-EGM92 | Yea |
| 04:47:01 | PsycoXul | Zakk1: some people get newer firmware on the units they buy than what archos has on their website :p |
| 04:47:20 | Zakk1 | Or does Rockbox have enough on it's hand trying to squash bugs on Jukebox Players and Recorders? |
| 04:47:29 | Zakk1 | 1.28 it ships with |
| 04:47:34 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:47:35 | Zakk1 | 1.27d is the lastest |
| 04:47:39 | CW-EGM92 | lol |
| 04:47:42 | Zakk1 | BUt |
| 04:47:45 | PsycoXul | i'm not doing anything :p |
| 04:47:50 | Zakk1 | They sayt hat 1.27d is the same as the 1.28 |
| 04:47:54 | PsycoXul | i'm working on music and odd technology from dreams :p |
| 04:47:59 | Zakk1 | I meant, like the Rockbox team |
| 04:48:06 | CW-EGM92 | Psyco get busy on my firmware!! |
| 04:48:11 | Zakk1 | lol |
| 04:48:13 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:48:21 | Zakk1 | He don't so that stuff |
| 04:48:23 | PsycoXul | the rockbox team has no plans to support the jbmm |
| 04:48:30 | PsycoXul | they don't even have one, afaik |
| 04:48:31 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:48:39 | CW-EGM92 | lol |
| 04:48:47 | CW-EGM92 | poor sobs.... |
| 04:48:56 | Zakk1 | One meaning a JBMM or one meaning a plan? |
| 04:49:08 | PsycoXul | one meaning a jbmm |
| 04:49:18 | Zakk1 | i meaning that's dumb |
| 04:49:22 | Zakk1 | I know why though |
| 04:49:35 | Zakk1 | 'Cause they can't use Rockbox firmware on it! |
| 04:49:45 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:49:47 | PsycoXul | personally |
| 04:49:50 | Zakk1 | What's the point in getting something not even your own software runs on? |
| 04:49:59 | PsycoXul | i wouldn't get one till like the 2nd or 3rd generation of such devices |
| 04:50:07 | Zakk1 | One guy got it |
| 04:50:10 | PsycoXul | that screen is just too small |
| 04:50:10 | Zakk1 | Hated it |
| 04:50:11 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:50:35 | Zakk1 | Yes |
| 04:50:36 | PsycoXul | and whats up with it's only supported resolution |
| 04:50:42 | PsycoXul | and only supported format |
| 04:50:43 | CW-EGM92 | lol |
| 04:50:43 | Zakk1 | But outputted to a TV, excellente |
| 04:50:45 | PsycoXul | its kinda lame |
| 04:50:47 | PsycoXul | my pda can play more |
| 04:50:53 | PsycoXul | and has a bigger screen |
| 04:50:57 | Zakk1 | http://www.epinions.com/content_91133808260 |
| 04:50:58 | PsycoXul | though no TV out |
| 04:50:58 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:51:04 | CW-EGM92 | acutally ur pba cant play more |
| 04:51:09 | PsycoXul | but it only cost $114 |
| 04:51:25 | Zakk1 | What is it? |
| 04:51:25 | CW-EGM92 | tell me when was the last time you wtched a full anime series 2.9gb on your pda? |
| 04:51:31 | Zakk1 | LOL |
| 04:51:34 | PsycoXul | CW-EGM92: my pda can play divx AND mpeg |
| 04:51:40 | PsycoXul | and mp3 and ogg and wav... |
| 04:51:45 | Zakk1 | What PDS? |
| 04:51:46 | PsycoXul | CW-EGM92: as soon as i get it back... |
| 04:51:47 | Zakk1 | PDA |
| 04:51:54 | CW-EGM92 | yes, same here, I can also play .APE audio files |
| 04:51:54 | PsycoXul | CW-EGM92: i've got a network card for it :p |
| 04:52:10 | PsycoXul | it's being rma'd right now |
| 04:52:15 | CW-EGM92 | networks only reach soo far |
| 04:52:31 | PsycoXul | browsing the web while streaming oggs, it locked up, and it's never booted again |
| 04:52:35 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:52:41 | Zakk1 | What brand/model PEE DEE AYE? |
| 04:52:47 | Zakk1 | AYE=EHH |
| 04:52:59 | PsycoXul | casio cassiopeia be-300 |
| 04:53:02 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:53:12 | Zakk1 | Cassiopeia |
| 04:53:15 | Zakk1 | You liar |
| 04:53:22 | PsycoXul | the cheapest wannabe pocketpc that's not a one |
| 04:53:26 | PsycoXul | but almost is |
| 04:53:26 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:53:35 | PsycoXul | i was running expod on it |
| 04:53:37 | PsycoXul | using pocketie |
| 04:53:38 | Zakk1 | Cassiopeia? |
| 04:53:40 | PsycoXul | and gsplayer |
| 04:53:54 | PsycoXul | cassiopeia is a line |
| 04:53:59 | CW-EGM92 | lol |
| 04:53:59 | Zakk1 | I can't even spell that and it's a PDA? |
| 04:54:07 | PsycoXul | including the cheap be-300 "pocket manager" and a few pocketpc's i think |
| 04:54:24 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:54:26 | Zakk1 | SO |
| 04:54:29 | CW-EGM92 | I have a Compaq Jordan 5650 big screen but no fuckign blue tooth for it too expensive |
| 04:54:29 | PsycoXul | it's the name of a constellation |
| 04:54:35 | Zakk1 | You can fit a DivX movie on a 16MB PDA? |
| 04:54:47 | PsycoXul | it's got a compactflash slot :p |
| 04:54:48 | CW-EGM92 | nope lol |
| 04:54:54 | PsycoXul | and i got a network card for it |
| 04:54:55 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:54:58 | CW-EGM92 | BUT I CAN FIT A 900MB XVID ON MY ARCHOS |
| 04:54:58 | PsycoXul | like i said |
| 04:55:01 | Zakk1 | oh on a 32MB CF card I see |
| 04:55:15 | Zakk1 | Lol more like a Microdrive |
| 04:55:18 | PsycoXul | a WIRED network card since i never leave the house and don't have a WAP |
| 04:55:23 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:55:28 | PsycoXul | nah i just play it from an SMB share |
| 04:55:29 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 04:55:40 | PsycoXul | actualy i couldn't quite get it to work before it died on me |
| 04:55:42 | Zakk1 | SMB share? |
| 04:55:44 | PsycoXul | but others have heh |
| 04:55:48 | Zakk1 | I gotta catch up with the times |
| 04:55:57 | PsycoXul | yes, SMB you know the protocol windows uses for sharing files... |
| 04:56:02 | Zakk1 | NOT REALLY |
| 04:56:09 | PsycoXul | "windows shares" |
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| 04:56:15 | PsycoXul | is what most people call it |
| 04:56:21 | PsycoXul | since most windows users don't know it's called SMB |
| 04:56:21 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 04:56:28 | Zakk1 | You think I care about SMB when Archos firmware licks sacs? |
| 04:56:43 | PsycoXul | hey honestly SMB sucks |
| 04:56:44 | CW-EGM92 | I SECOND THAT! |
| 04:56:51 | Zakk1 | Thankyou |
| 04:56:55 | Zakk1 | Even HE seconds that |
| 04:56:55 | PsycoXul | my linux kernel and glibc support >2G files... |
| 04:57:03 | PsycoXul | my samba supports >2G files |
| 04:57:08 | PsycoXul | winxp witnh NTFS supports >2G files |
| 04:57:11 | PsycoXul | but SMB doesn't |
| 04:57:28 | PsycoXul | so i have to use ftp or some other lame work-around to copy >2G files between my linux box and the windows boxes |
| 04:57:31 | PsycoXul | it's lame |
| 04:58:09 | CW-EGM92 | I PUISS ON YOUL LINUX KERNAL! |
| 04:58:14 | PsycoXul | i dunno why samba even support >2G files if the protocol it's the linux implimentation for doesn't... heh |
| 04:58:53 | Zakk1 | Okay listen here |
| 04:59:09 | Zakk1 | I am computer smart so stop making me sound dumb |
| 04:59:21 | CW-EGM92 | i second that!! |
| 04:59:27 | Zakk1 | NO you don't |
| 04:59:34 | Zakk1 | Yes you do |
| 04:59:35 | PsycoXul | new simpsons bbl |
| 04:59:36 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 04:59:40 | Zakk1 | NO |
| 04:59:47 | Zakk1 | Wher are you Psyco? |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:00 | CW-EGM92 | I SEEN THAT SIMPSONS HOURS AGO |
| 05:00:04 | CW-EGM92 | it sucks |
| 05:00:04 | Zakk1 | Lol |
| 05:00:07 | Zakk1 | what happens? |
| 05:00:15 | CW-EGM92 | krust wins the vote |
| 05:00:21 | CW-EGM92 | by getting the southern guy drunk |
| 05:00:35 | Zakk1 | I think I'll watch it |
| 05:00:38 | Zakk1 | lol bbl |
| 05:00:44 | Zakk1 | see if you're right |
| 05:00:45 | CW-EGM92 | and lisa uses a "paper clip" which is a holy tool in the congress to make the planes stop from gonig over their house |
| 05:00:48 | Zakk1 | Stay here eh |
| 05:00:54 | CW-EGM92 | ok i will |
| 05:01:03 | Zakk1 | I wanta see you afterwards |
| 05:01:08 | Zakk1 | But I need to watch it now |
| 05:01:20 | CW-EGM92 | there's a plane that crashs through the house and krusty get's a bill passed in 3 hours with the help of a janitor |
| 05:01:25 | CW-EGM92 | ok |
| 05:01:26 | CW-EGM92 | lol |
| 05:01:30 | Zakk1 | That's enuff |
| 05:01:34 | Zakk1 | I'll remember that |
| 05:01:39 | Zakk1 | lol ;) see you in a bit |
| 05:01:50 | CW-EGM92 | BUT HOLD ON!! |
| 05:02:03 | CW-EGM92 | I HAVENT GIVN U ALL OF THE PLOT HOLES! |
| 05:11:55 | Zakk1 | Ok |
| 05:11:57 | Zakk1 | commercial |
| 05:12:17 | Zakk1 | So the planes fly over the house righ |
| 05:12:36 | Zakk1 | and they wanna sell it, then homer puts up the "krusty for Kongress' sign |
| 05:12:42 | Zakk1 | And then commercial |
| 05:12:45 | Zakk1 | What next? |
| 05:13:09 | Zakk1 | Hurry hurry |
| 05:13:37 | Zakk1 | Commercial breaks almost over |
| 05:14:09 | Zakk1 | finish up if your typing |
| 05:14:18 | Zakk1 | I'm leaving in ten seconds |
| 05:14:32 | Zakk1 | 5 |
| 05:14:36 | Zakk1 | 4 |
| 05:14:42 | CW-EGM92 | lol |
| 05:14:45 | CW-EGM92 | umm next |
| 05:14:49 | Zakk1 | hurry |
| 05:14:49 | CW-EGM92 | is he talksto the people |
| 05:14:56 | CW-EGM92 | krusty talks to the public |
| 05:14:57 | CW-EGM92 | funny |
| 05:14:59 | CW-EGM92 | haha |
| 05:15:00 | Zakk1 | Not yet |
| 05:15:03 | Zakk1 | ok |
| 05:15:04 | CW-EGM92 | watch at the end |
| 05:15:10 | Zakk1 | At the end? |
| 05:15:16 | CW-EGM92 | homer is gonig to drink the sounthern guy under the table |
| 05:15:25 | CW-EGM92 | and bart isgoing to black ale some guy with a tape |
| 05:15:26 | Zakk1 | Okay |
| 05:15:35 | Zakk1 | got to go |
| 05:15:43 | Zakk1 | commercials over |
| 05:16:15 | CW-EGM92 | k |
| 05:21:55 | Zakk1 | okay |
| 05:22:00 | Zakk1 | next commercial break |
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| 05:32:13 | Zakk1 | That wasn't very good episode |
| 05:34:32 | Zakk1 | Pretty dumb if you ask me |
| 05:34:38 | Zakk1 | But there were funny parts |
| 05:35:36 | Zakk1 | Thanks for giving it away CW lol |
| 05:43:10 | CW-EGM92 | lol |
| 05:43:13 | CW-EGM92 | i know |
| 05:43:14 | CW-EGM92 | im goof |
| 05:43:16 | CW-EGM92 | good |
| 05:43:51 | Zakk1 | Where do you live? |
| 05:43:54 | CW-EGM92 | Canada |
| 05:44:26 | Zakk1 | So you are 'ahead of the times' literally |
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| 05:45:40 | CW-EGM92 | ?????? |
| 05:46:12 | Zakk1 | You saw it before me |
| 05:46:20 | Zakk1 | Thus, ahead of the time(s) |
| 05:48:27 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 05:48:30 | PsycoXul | i liked it |
| 05:48:31 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:48:53 | Zakk1 | It was funny the part when he talked to them all |
| 05:48:56 | PsycoXul | and plot holes... in the simpsons? thats just silly :p |
| 05:49:13 | PsycoXul | thats almost as bad as complaining about something happening thats unrealistic |
| 05:49:14 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 05:49:22 | Zakk1 | Then marge came up with a finger and ointed out something |
| 05:49:32 | Zakk1 | ointed-pointed |
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| 05:58:55 | Zakk1 | Psyco |
| 05:59:02 | Zakk1 | Need a bit o help |
| 05:59:09 | Zakk1 | Going to upgrade rightnow |
| 05:59:26 | Zakk1 | So the .ajz file goes in root directory right? |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:06 | Zakk1 | Unzip the thing to the directory of archos? |
| 06:00:35 | Zakk1 | here goes |
| 06:00:39 | PsycoXul | rename the original .ajz file to something else .ajz |
| 06:00:47 | PsycoXul | and name the rockbox one to the same name as the original |
| 06:01:06 | Zakk1 | There was no original |
| 06:01:07 | PsycoXul | ajbrec.ajz is it? |
| 06:01:11 | Zakk1 | yes |
| 06:01:16 | PsycoXul | hmm |
| 06:01:22 | Zakk1 | Unless it's hidden |
| 06:01:37 | Zakk1 | not there |
| 06:01:38 | PsycoXul | you've got 1.28 in rom? |
| 06:01:43 | Zakk1 | yes |
| 06:01:56 | Zakk1 | I unzipped 1.4 to try it |
| 06:02:00 | PsycoXul | weird, i thought it was a file that came on it heh |
| 06:02:06 | PsycoXul | heh why? |
| 06:02:07 | Zakk1 | Im putting in 2.0 in a sec |
| 06:02:10 | PsycoXul | ah |
| 06:02:11 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 06:02:19 | Zakk1 | oh man here goes |
| 06:02:22 | Zakk1 | im skeptical |
| 06:05:01 | Zakk1 | it works! |
| 06:07:13 | Zakk1 | kool |
| 06:09:37 | PsycoXul | [Lag: 6.66] |
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| 06:09:45 | PsycoXul | EVIL!!! |
| 06:09:52 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 06:10:04 | Zakk1 | EXCELLENT |
| 06:10:06 | Zakk1 | I like it |
| 06:10:14 | Zakk1 | But does 2.0 add in the key lables? |
| 06:14:07 | PsycoXul | key lables? |
| 06:14:33 | Zakk1 | Hang on |
| 06:14:46 | Zakk1 | For the three function keys |
| 06:16:42 | Zakk1 | this is awesome |
| 06:22:20 | Zakk1 | seeya thanks again |
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| 09:54:28 | Schnueff | moin |
| 09:59:42 | Zagor | hi |
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| 10:02:43 | dwihno | Moinsens! :D |
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| 10:17:59 | quelsaruk | morning to all |
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| 10:34:48 | Zagor | yo LinusN |
| 10:34:54 | LinusN | i want to report a bug |
| 10:35:00 | Zagor | go away :-) |
| 10:35:15 | LinusN | the recording does not work in 1.4 |
| 10:35:17 | LinusN | :-) |
| 10:35:26 | LinusN | i tried several times |
| 10:35:39 | #>> | "kick linusn" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 10:35:42 | Zagor | :-) |
| 10:36:03 | dwihno | Linus! :D |
| 10:36:06 | dwihno | Hello Linus! |
| 10:36:10 | Zagor | nice way to start the week: two of those "bugs" within a few hours |
| 10:36:13 | dwihno | I SALUTE THEE! |
| 10:36:15 | dwihno | :) |
| 10:36:19 | * | dwihno got a new font |
| 10:36:25 | dwihno | Which makes the term all spiffy |
| 10:36:26 | LinusN | hi dwihno! |
| 10:36:42 | LinusN | any starka såsen lately? |
| 10:36:52 | dwihno | Not really, I'm waiting to buy you a kebab :) |
| 10:37:26 | quelsaruk | hi LinusN!! |
| 10:37:35 | dwihno | Hola quel |
| 10:38:18 | LinusN | hi jose |
| 10:38:19 | quelsaruk | well.. until linus came. all of you were asleep... |
| 10:38:29 | quelsaruk | hi dwihno |
| 10:38:30 | quelsaruk | :P |
| 10:38:30 | LinusN | i feel popular :-) |
| 10:38:37 | quelsaruk | haha |
| 10:38:45 | quelsaruk | no LinusN, they all want your head |
| 10:41:45 | * | LinusN hides |
| 10:42:01 | LinusN | Zagor: the slow xing vbrfixer was a bug |
| 10:42:29 | Zagor | LinusN: oh, nice. how fast is it now? |
| 10:42:31 | LinusN | now it isn't *that* slow anymore |
| 10:42:43 | LinusN | but it still takes a wile |
| 10:42:46 | LinusN | while |
| 10:44:05 | LinusN | 20 seconds for 5 megabytes |
| 10:45:08 | LinusN | with nice % progress meter |
| 10:45:25 | dwihno | Linus is the hero, never forget that quel... |
| 10:45:34 | dwihno | the hero! |
| 10:45:41 | * | LinusN wants flush() and on-play menu |
| 10:46:41 | quelsaruk | dwihno: even heros can get their head chopped off their body ;) |
| 10:47:03 | LinusN | i had a look at the ID3edit patch |
| 10:47:16 | LinusN | not very beautiful |
| 10:57:05 | dwihno | :-( |
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| 11:03:46 | dwihno | Hmm |
| 11:04:07 | dwihno | LinusN: Getting a 250 gig disk to work in an external USB2 case will require some black magic? |
| 11:07:02 | LinusN | dwihno: black magic? why? |
| 11:07:51 | LinusN | it should work if the controller in the case supports those large disks |
| 11:13:02 | dwihno | Hmm |
| 11:13:10 | dwihno | That's black magic! :/ |
| 11:13:17 | dwihno | I don't think there's such cases. |
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| 11:17:25 | quelsaruk | dwihno: 250 GB??? |
| 11:17:30 | quelsaruk | for what? |
| 11:18:29 | dwihno | quelsaruk: I need somewhere to store my goats |
| 11:20:59 | quelsaruk | do you have goats? or Godzillas?? |
| 11:21:17 | dwihno | The name is Gojira! ;D |
| 11:21:24 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 11:21:30 | quelsaruk | btw |
| 11:21:45 | quelsaruk | i have my new case |
| 11:21:46 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:21:48 | quelsaruk | it's cool |
| 11:22:14 | quelsaruk | but i dunno why my win XP at home says it has an error and can't install the case :( |
| 11:22:16 | dwihno | Very cool? |
| 11:22:23 | dwihno | is the disk formatted? |
| 11:22:36 | quelsaruk | of course |
| 11:22:37 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 11:22:47 | quelsaruk | i can use it in the laptop |
| 11:22:51 | quelsaruk | and at work |
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| 11:31:40 | LinusN | yo Bagder! |
| 11:32:22 | dwihno | Linus: Have you seen ATA-133 capable USB2 boxes? |
| 11:33:27 | Bagder | hey ho Linus the man |
| 11:33:55 | LinusN | dwihno: i haven't looked |
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| 12:02:57 | tracktheripper | MORNING |
| 12:02:58 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 12:03:24 | Bagder | morning |
| 12:03:35 | tracktheripper | morning Badg |
| 12:03:37 | tracktheripper | how are you? |
| 12:03:49 | Bagder | I'm just fine |
| 12:03:56 | Bagder | you? |
| 12:04:00 | dwihno | HELLO! D: |
| 12:04:00 | tracktheripper | very well |
| 12:04:07 | tracktheripper | Just been snapping with my digital camera |
| 12:04:18 | tracktheripper | Hi Dwihno |
| 12:05:15 | tracktheripper | I still like the concept of the Archos Multimedia :-) |
| 12:05:18 | dwihno | Hi track! :D |
| 12:05:31 | tracktheripper | ello |
| 12:05:31 | tracktheripper | :D |
| 12:05:33 | dwihno | All 200 gig disks are ATA-133 by law? :) |
| 12:05:41 | tracktheripper | erm..... |
| 12:05:43 | tracktheripper | dunno |
| 12:05:56 | LinusN | dwihno: yes |
| 12:06:20 | LinusN | older ata standards just can't handle that large disks |
| 12:06:34 | dwihno | Where's the boundaries? |
| 12:06:43 | LinusN | 128gb i think |
| 12:06:44 | Bagder | 128 GB |
| 12:06:46 | tracktheripper | im looking forward for the 2.5Tb drives to come out |
| 12:06:51 | tracktheripper | the holographic ones |
| 12:06:52 | Bagder | but they call that 138GB |
| 12:06:58 | Bagder | since they count badly |
| 12:07:15 | LinusN | badly == they use ISO prefixes |
| 12:07:26 | LinusN | 1k == 1000 |
| 12:07:31 | Bagder | yes, and that's bad |
| 12:07:43 | Bagder | since megabytes and gigabytes aren't in all other occations |
| 12:07:49 | tracktheripper | Why can't 1000Mb = 1Gb rather than 1024Mb = 1Gb |
| 12:07:55 | dwihno | Linus: I found a fishy thing! HD Caviar SE/200GB UIDE100 7200rpm 8MB cache |
| 12:08:03 | LinusN | tracktheripper: because of how computers work |
| 12:08:20 | tracktheripper | yes but when you think about it, 1000Mhz = 1Ghz |
| 12:08:36 | LinusN | tracktheripper: yes, but that is a different thing |
| 12:08:54 | tracktheripper | but its still using "megas" and "gigas" |
| 12:08:56 | tracktheripper | heehee |
| 12:09:01 | LinusN | when it comes to memory size, it isn't practical to use 1000 |
| 12:09:18 | LinusN | thing is, you use Kbytes, not kbytes |
| 12:09:24 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 12:09:27 | LinusN | 1K == 1024 |
| 12:09:30 | LinusN | 1k == 1000 |
| 12:09:40 | tracktheripper | they reckon the 1Thz prosessor will be out in 10 years |
| 12:10:32 | LinusN | but i agree that it may be confusing for "normal" people |
| 12:10:42 | tracktheripper | heehee |
| 12:11:06 | * | Bagder learns that <thead> is nice |
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| 12:11:26 | Zagor | thead? |
| 12:11:34 | LinusN | Bagder: tried to print a long table? |
| 12:11:37 | Bagder | yes |
| 12:11:41 | tracktheripper | i think he means Thread Zagor |
| 12:11:43 | Zagor | ah |
| 12:11:49 | Bagder | but IE doesn't grok it, only mozilla ;-) |
| 12:11:54 | Zagor | <!ELEMENT THEAD |
| 12:11:54 | LinusN | really? |
| 12:12:02 | Zagor | why am I not surprised? |
| 12:12:51 | tracktheripper | I saw in Sourceforge something about a .B4S playlist file? |
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| 12:13:00 | tracktheripper | wots wrong with .M3U? |
| 12:13:12 | Bagder | .m3u is plain stupid |
| 12:13:15 | Zagor | tracktheripper: XML is c0o0ol :-) |
| 12:13:16 | Bagder | for anything but song names |
| 12:13:25 | tracktheripper | ohhhhh |
| 12:13:35 | tracktheripper | well I look forward to see it implemented then :-) |
| 12:13:37 | Bagder | they want to add various other info besides song names, and then .m3u is no good |
| 12:13:51 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 12:14:01 | Bagder | but b4s is one stupid extension name ;-) |
| 12:14:26 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 12:14:33 | tracktheripper | supposed to look like "bass" |
| 12:14:33 | tracktheripper | heehee |
| 12:14:39 | Bagder | it is? |
| 12:14:40 | dwihno | Let's grok! |
| 12:14:43 | dwihno | GROK GROK GROK! |
| 12:14:44 | Bagder | even worse then ;-) |
| 12:14:57 | tracktheripper | in that case what does m3u stand for? |
| 12:15:01 | Zagor | searching for "winamp" and "b4s" only returns vulnerability reports :-) |
| 12:15:08 | Bagder | hehe |
| 12:15:11 | tracktheripper | manchester united score 3? |
| 12:15:15 | tracktheripper | heehee |
| 12:16:39 | LinusN | i'm not too fond of needing an XML parser just to load a list of songs |
| 12:17:02 | tracktheripper | well don't the ID3 tags carry song data not the playlist itself? |
| 12:17:37 | Bagder | I'm also a bit scared of all the other info people will expect us to "understand" when we start to load .b4s files |
| 12:17:57 | LinusN | Bagder: yes |
| 12:18:10 | tracktheripper | well in that case stick with tried and tested m3u |
| 12:18:12 | tracktheripper | for playlist |
| 12:18:27 | LinusN | and the basic B4S format contains fields for "song lenght" and "song name". silly as silly can be! |
| 12:18:33 | Bagder | I'm convinced someone will write a .b4s patch soon |
| 12:18:51 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 12:18:51 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 12:19:23 | tracktheripper | Linus could you "tweak" the recording level adjuster so you don't have to keep clicking it to adjust rec level? |
| 12:19:27 | tracktheripper | i.e just hold it down? |
| 12:20:30 | LinusN | sure |
| 12:21:03 | tracktheripper | because when you click to adjust during mic recording a lot of clicks get recorded |
| 12:21:42 | tracktheripper | just a suggestion Linus |
| 12:24:00 | LinusN | done |
| 12:24:08 | LinusN | check out the next bleeding edge |
| 12:24:19 | LinusN | should be there in about 15 minutes |
| 12:24:25 | tracktheripper | cheers |
| 12:24:40 | tracktheripper | I sent that as a request in Sourceforge "One Click Level Adjust" |
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| 12:55:14 | LinusN | Bagder: do you have the time to deal with the apps/string.c issue? |
| 12:57:21 | dwihno | Linus: I've found a cool thing, check it out: http://www.xpcgear.com/35slimexhard.html |
| 12:57:43 | dwihno | ATA/133 and all :D |
| 12:57:54 | dwihno | [~] whois www.xpcgear.com |
| 12:57:54 | dwihno | Segmentation fault |
| 12:57:57 | dwihno | very good ;) |
| 12:58:34 | Zagor_ | which chip is it using? |
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| 12:58:48 | dwihno | dunno really |
| 12:59:01 | dwihno | All I can read is ATA/133 ;) |
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| 13:01:16 | LinusN | it only mentions that it can *fit* an ata-133 drive, not that it supports large disks :-) |
| 13:03:30 | dwihno | Hmm |
| 13:03:33 | dwihno | :-( |
| 13:03:38 | dwihno | I want such a box |
| 13:03:43 | dwihno | It rould rox |
| 13:05:49 | Bagder | LinusN: what app/string.c issue? |
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| 13:09:14 | LinusN | no prototype for num2max5() |
| 13:09:28 | LinusN | should be a string.h file for that, but....ooops! :-) |
| 13:11:03 | Bagder | hehe |
| 13:11:05 | Bagder | how silly |
| 13:14:04 | LinusN | call it misc.c or whatever |
| 13:14:09 | Bagder | yeah |
| 13:15:44 | LinusN | would be nice with X.XGb in num2max5() too |
| 13:16:21 | Bagder | it would break the system |
| 13:16:28 | LinusN | i know |
| 13:16:28 | Bagder | it shows as many digits as possible |
| 13:16:56 | LinusN | never mind |
| 13:19:53 | Bagder | committed |
| 13:21:14 | LinusN | great |
| 13:41:06 | | Part TotMacherr |
| 13:57:28 | LinusN | can anyone think of a key combination for screen dumps, that will work in any screen? |
| 14:00 |
| 14:07:07 | Schnueff | could do 'screenshot on next charger plugin' :) |
| 14:07:21 | LinusN | Schnueff: not bad |
| 14:07:31 | Schnueff | or smth like this |
| 14:17:19 | dwihno | LinusN: MAXTOR Personal Storage 5000XT, 250GB extern hårddisk USB2.0 + FireWire (5400 rpm) - how about that? :) |
| 14:17:31 | dwihno | 5400 RPM's but who gives a darn ;D |
| 14:17:49 | LinusN | url? |
| 14:18:12 | Zagor | double disks |
| 14:18:52 | Zagor | LinusN: how about ON+UP+DOWN |
| 14:19:34 | LinusN | will work if all present ON keypresses react on button-up only |
| 14:19:40 | dwihno | Linus: http://www.sumodata.se/k007u006s007.htm |
| 14:19:54 | LinusN | imagine wanting a screenshot of thewps |
| 14:19:57 | LinusN | the wps |
| 14:20:05 | Zagor | wps is ON|UP |
| 14:20:23 | Zagor | due to the pitch screen |
| 14:20:41 | dwihno | Linus: good or bad? |
| 14:21:14 | LinusN | Zagor: so if i hold on and try to press UP+DOWN i will end up in the pitch screen? |
| 14:21:26 | Zagor | ah, right |
| 14:21:50 | Schnueff | charger would be okay, i think |
| 14:22:14 | Schnueff | maybe to assist doing multiple screenshots, a setting that makes one whenever charger inserted changes |
| 14:22:40 | Zagor | ON+F3 isn't used anywhere. or ON+F3+DOWN to make it a little less likely to press by accident |
| 14:22:44 | LinusN | dwihno: that's only a price list, do you have an url for the spec sheet? |
| 14:23:02 | dwihno | Linus: I'm trying to find it... |
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| 14:29:37 | dwihno | is there a major speed difference between 5200 and 7200 RPM disks? |
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| 14:37:40 | dwihno | A megabyte means 1,000,000 bytes. A gigabyte means 1,000,000,000 bytes. |
| 14:37:46 | dwihno | According to Maxtor ;) |
| 14:38:02 | LinusN | according to all hard disk manufacturers |
| 14:38:18 | dwihno | Linus: I read the spec sheet. It says nothing about the hardware being used. |
| 14:38:19 | Zagor | quantum started the trend |
| 14:39:04 | dwihno | Hm |
| 14:39:41 | dwihno | mkay |
| 14:39:49 | dwihno | how about the 5200/7200 RPM issue? |
| 14:40:18 | Zagor | yes, how about it? |
| 14:40:32 | dwihno | How big is the difference? :) |
| 14:40:38 | dwihno | (and don't say 2000 RPM) ;) |
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| 14:41:04 | >>> | "calc 1+1" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:41:31 | Zagor | dwihno: about 25% |
| 14:41:57 | dwihno | Mkay |
| 14:42:05 | Zagor | theoretically |
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| 14:52:07 | Zagor | LinusN: feel like testing a flush() patch? |
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| 14:52:44 | dwihno | In theory, we can all fly! :D |
| 14:53:16 | * | dwihno passes on the kokosbollar to everyone |
| 14:53:54 | LinusN | Zagor: sure |
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| 15:16:03 | Zagor | yikes, who fixed combo keys in the X11 sim? it rocks! |
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| 15:20:03 | Kuji_ | hallo |
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| 15:20:11 | LinusN | yo |
| 15:20:20 | kuji | how ya doon |
| 15:20:50 | LinusN | fine i guess |
| 15:20:58 | langhaarrocker | Smoking the cpu I fear. |
| 15:21:00 | kuji | heh |
| 15:21:18 | kuji | think I found a bug.. just getting latest bleed edge to recheck |
| 15:21:31 | LinusN | a bug? naaaaah! |
| 15:21:57 | kuji | ahh .. fixed in this one |
| 15:22:04 | LinusN | what was it? |
| 15:22:14 | kuji | the last bleed edge build I had wouldnt continue to the next track |
| 15:22:20 | kuji | even if you selected next |
| 15:22:21 | Zagor | we don't deal in bugs. move on. |
| 15:22:21 | Zagor | ;) |
| 15:22:23 | kuji | weird |
| 15:22:27 | kuji | hehe |
| 15:22:41 | kuji | still fixed.. |
| 15:22:43 | kuji | nice |
| 15:22:57 | kuji | thanks for excellent stuff linus |
| 15:22:58 | LinusN | kuji: i don't think we have fixed such a bug |
| 15:23:12 | LinusN | how old |
| 15:23:14 | langhaarrocker | well there's this _feature_ that dynamic wps tags don't get updated in scrolling lines ... :) |
| 15:23:15 | Schnueff | then, the better :) |
| 15:23:20 | LinusN | was the version that had the bug? |
| 15:23:21 | kuji | linus... weird thing it was ok until the fat bug was fixed |
| 15:23:45 | kuji | it was the bleed edge build from the moment that fat bug applied.. |
| 15:23:52 | kuji | I just overwrote the file.. oops |
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| 15:23:59 | kuji | still it works.. glitches come n go |
| 15:24:00 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: did we ever support that? |
| 15:24:00 | kuji | hheeh |
| 15:24:04 | bobTHC | hi all! |
| 15:24:08 | LinusN | Zagor: no |
| 15:24:16 | Bagder | yes we do |
| 15:24:26 | LinusN | Bagder: i stand corrected |
| 15:24:48 | langhaarrocker | Bagder: it's documented to be unsuppported in the manual |
| 15:24:51 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 15:24:57 | Bagder | at least we've been fighting to make it work and it works at times but that bug seems to turn up all the time ;-) |
| 15:25:20 | Bagder | I've seen it work ;-) |
| 15:25:31 | kuji | how is recording at moment... still chopping files ? |
| 15:25:33 | langhaarrocker | It's a zombie bug. A special case for quelsaruk. |
| 15:25:46 | dwihno | just toss some goats |
| 15:25:59 | bobTHC | a lot of patch and improvements have been made this days.... |
| 15:26:33 | bobTHC | good for futur rockbox release... |
| 15:27:25 | LinusN | kuji: chopping files? |
| 15:27:58 | Zagor | kuji: that was fixed with the fat bug |
| 15:28:05 | LinusN | it works perfectly now, i think |
| 15:29:43 | langhaarrocker | Now the disasters only happen on the other side of the microphone. |
| 15:35:55 | kuji | I tried after the fat bug and a 60min recording was just 38mins |
| 15:36:05 | kuji | I will set it recording for an hour see what I get |
| 15:36:26 | LinusN | kuji: did you use a stop watch? |
| 15:36:41 | kuji | no a clock... good enough.. |
| 15:36:42 | kuji | heh |
| 15:36:48 | LinusN | od did you trust the (wrong) information in the WPS screen? |
| 15:37:08 | kuji | right starting now.. |
| 15:37:12 | kuji | 2:37 my time |
| 15:37:21 | langhaarrocker | Someone should implement a fast forward while recording. For the ease of debugging. |
| 15:37:24 | kuji | lets see... back in an hour |
| 15:37:37 | LinusN | kuji: i mean, when playing back the recorded file |
| 15:37:46 | kuji | nono it chopped the end off |
| 15:37:54 | kuji | missed the last half of the mix I did |
| 15:38:20 | kuji | will see where this gets to.. |
| 15:38:30 | kuji | back in a bit.. let you knwo |
| 15:38:32 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: :-) |
| 15:39:54 | bobTHC | someone know the status of the XING VBR header feature ? |
| 15:40:39 | bobTHC | linus the wizard perhaps :) ? |
| 15:40:58 | LinusN | i know |
| 15:41:04 | LinusN | it's working |
| 15:41:14 | LinusN | i am about to commit it |
| 15:41:17 | bobTHC | good news!!! |
| 15:42:00 | langhaarrocker | Sounds like V2.0 is about to be released? |
| 15:42:07 | Zagor | getting closer |
| 15:42:24 | bobTHC | With all news feature, the original firmware seems to be so far behind... |
| 15:42:29 | * | Bagder votes on Linus for president |
| 15:42:31 | dwihno | Now let's all calm down! :) We don't want to stress this baby |
| 15:42:38 | Zagor | um, my outburst over x11 key combos was a bit early :-) |
| 15:42:47 | LinusN | well, we still need to run the new code a little to look for bugs |
| 15:43:36 | langhaarrocker | Zagor said bug are not available. |
| 15:43:52 | Zagor | "bugs are not an option" |
| 15:44:30 | LinusN | Zagor: yellow build! |
| 15:44:47 | Zagor | yeah, noticed. silly warning. |
| 15:45:08 | LinusN | all warnings are silly, i know what i am doing :-) |
| 15:46:17 | dwihno | Is it possible to make cross-tunes navigation faster? |
| 15:46:29 | LinusN | dwihno: huh? |
| 15:46:44 | langhaarrocker | quick skip? only at big effort. |
| 15:46:47 | LinusN | you mean next/prev? |
| 15:48:43 | dwihno | uhu |
| 15:48:44 | dwihno | :-) |
| 15:55:02 | Zagor | Alexander Eickhoff's ON-LEFT/RIGHT idea for keyboard cursor movement is pretty good |
| 15:55:18 | langhaarrocker | dwihno: have a look at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=668528 |
| 15:55:18 | langhaarrocker | http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-02/0720.shtml |
| 15:55:37 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: how does it work for Players |
| 15:55:39 | LinusN | ? |
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| 15:56:14 | langhaarrocker | ? how works what for players? |
| 15:57:29 | dwihno | aah |
| 15:57:37 | dwihno | pre-buffer algorithm :)~~~ |
| 15:58:21 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: keyboard.c |
| 15:58:32 | Zagor | that was me :-) |
| 15:58:53 | Zagor | it doesn't, of course. they don't have an ON button. but keyboard is wholly different for rec and player anyway |
| 15:59:20 | langhaarrocker | I haven't provided any bugs for a long time :( |
| 15:59:44 | * | Zagor is knocked by Linus' commit |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:06 | dwihno | Linus got some evil commits going on?! :DO |
| 16:00:17 | LinusN | it is one of those "nothing should have changed" commits |
| 16:00:22 | Zagor | hehe |
| 16:00:43 | LinusN | look for id3 and sound gap bugs |
| 16:01:02 | LinusN | the id3 parser is a bit enhanced |
| 16:01:46 | LinusN | to cope with silly extra data in the id3 frames |
| 16:02:00 | dwihno | Linus: Now behave! Silly is GOOD :) |
| 16:02:20 | LinusN | and skip compressed/encrypted frames and stuff |
| 16:02:20 | kuji | still need a next track button when recording imo. |
| 16:02:33 | LinusN | kuji: coming up |
| 16:02:37 | kuji | kewl |
| 16:02:40 | kuji | thats handy |
| 16:02:47 | kuji | 30mins to go.. |
| 16:02:47 | kuji | heh |
| 16:02:48 | LinusN | i wonder which key to use |
| 16:03:12 | Zagor | there should be a mode switch. we can't hog the keys for gain adjustments all the time |
| 16:03:13 | langhaarrocker | combo? |
| 16:03:34 | LinusN | Zagor: agreed, i am not happy with the ui as it is now |
| 16:04:21 | Zagor | some combo key (ON+UP/DOWN is nice) could select mode. gain, record, keylock |
| 16:04:42 | LinusN | keylock could be the same as WPS |
| 16:04:47 | Zagor | yeah |
| 16:04:56 | LinusN | ON+PLAY could be "next" |
| 16:05:05 | LinusN | just Play would be "pause" |
| 16:05:25 | Zagor | ON+NEXT is better imho |
| 16:05:33 | kuji | maybe set gain before recording |
| 16:05:34 | Zagor | or maybe not |
| 16:05:40 | kuji | then the keys change when recording |
| 16:05:44 | LinusN | i'm not sure that RIGHT is a good choice for Next |
| 16:05:49 | kuji | I wouldnt change gain in the middle of recording |
| 16:05:57 | LinusN | since there is no Prev |
| 16:06:09 | Zagor | if we call it "start new file" rather than "next file", on+play is good |
| 16:06:14 | LinusN | kuji: people want to change gain while recording |
| 16:06:17 | langhaarrocker | kuji: I would. That's why I can't buy Sony MD recorders |
| 16:07:05 | kuji | maybe set an option in main settings |
| 16:07:05 | LinusN | Zagor: ON+PLAY or PLAY|REPEAT would be good i guess |
| 16:07:12 | langhaarrocker | kuji: when recording a live performance and you notice clips then you don't have the options to rerecord from start. |
| 16:07:17 | kuji | ye true |
| 16:07:39 | LinusN | PLAY|REPEAT for the one-handed guys |
| 16:08:39 | kuji | why not change the F functions in recording mode.. |
| 16:08:49 | kuji | no need to change things on f3 for instance |
| 16:08:52 | kuji | when recording |
| 16:09:04 | LinusN | it's difficult to switch files frame-accurately |
| 16:09:38 | LinusN | kuji: now when you bring it up, i want to ditch the F2 and F3 screens in the recording UI |
| 16:09:53 | kuji | cool |
| 16:10:02 | kuji | that leaves more options |
| 16:10:26 | kuji | maybe use f2 + whatever to change gain .. leaving you to select next file normally |
| 16:10:28 | kuji | next |
| 16:10:31 | kuji | or whatever |
| 16:11:35 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: is patch #632667 still valid? |
| 16:11:45 | dwihno | Some kind of quick navigation, such as ON+left or ON+right... |
| 16:11:48 | * | langhaarrocker looking |
| 16:11:57 | dwihno | That would use some kind of smart pre-buffering algo! |
| 16:11:59 | dwihno | Yes yes... |
| 16:12:02 | dwihno | Very good |
| 16:12:07 | dwihno | <Zagor> I second that motion |
| 16:12:13 | dwihno | <Bagder> Me too! |
| 16:12:15 | dwihno | :-D |
| 16:12:16 | dwihno | Yay! |
| 16:12:28 | Zagor | dwihno: smart buffering has to be done *before* you press the key, so a dedicated key combo is pointless |
| 16:12:54 | dwihno | Zagor: the first key press could activate the buffer algo... |
| 16:13:07 | Zagor | no, it's too late then. |
| 16:13:13 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: bugfix 632667 is obsolete |
| 16:13:15 | Zagor | you need to have it enabled when loading the previous track |
| 16:13:20 | dwihno | It's never too late, Zagor! |
| 16:13:20 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: ok, thanks |
| 16:14:15 | quelsaruk | someone called me? |
| 16:14:21 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker ? |
| 16:14:50 | dwihno | quel, I bet your highlight goes off when the magic word appears |
| 16:14:51 | langhaarrocker | my cpu burned. I need some cold blooded technopriest for liquid cpu cooling with goat blood. |
| 16:14:51 | dwihno | ... |
| 16:14:53 | dwihno | GOAT |
| 16:15:07 | quelsaruk | i had a lot of work today and forgot to put quel|out :) |
| 16:15:52 | quelsaruk | ummm |
| 16:15:58 | quelsaruk | did you see the fire? |
| 16:16:00 | quelsaruk | smoke? |
| 16:16:07 | quelsaruk | or just went off? |
| 16:17:10 | langhaarrocker | The plastic nose where a clamp fixes the cooler on the cpu broke off -> heat death of cpu. cpu = piece of coal. |
| 16:18:47 | quelsaruk | GREAT!!! |
| 16:18:47 | langhaarrocker | I assume that the little smoke signals to indicate it went for the eternal hunting grounds of electronics were sent unseen while I was at home over the weekend. |
| 16:19:02 | quelsaruk | this happened at work? |
| 16:19:08 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 16:19:25 | quelsaruk | the good thing is that you don't have to pay it :) |
| 16:19:36 | quelsaruk | i hope... |
| 16:19:57 | quelsaruk | have you tried to drop some tears over the cpu? |
| 16:19:59 | langhaarrocker | That's true, and my new cpu is faster, too |
| 16:20:11 | quelsaruk | that's how i revived my 30 GB HD |
| 16:20:36 | quelsaruk | (langhaarrocker then you don't need a technopriest.. you are lucky) |
| 16:21:31 | Zagor | void bookmark_write(bool autobookmark) |
| 16:21:32 | Zagor | { |
| 16:21:39 | Zagor | char new_bookmark[MAX_BOOKMARK_SIZE]; |
| 16:21:52 | Zagor | char bookmarks[MAX_BOOKMARKS][MAX_BOOKMARK_SIZE]; |
| 16:22:00 | Zagor | #define MAX_BOOKMARKS 10 |
| 16:22:05 | Zagor | #define MAX_BOOKMARK_SIZE 440 |
| 16:22:17 | Zagor | that's 5KB of stack, right there |
| 16:23:31 | langhaarrocker | If you think that's problematic you'll kill me when you see the customizable key code... |
| 16:23:39 | Zagor | #define DEFAULT_STACK_SIZE 0x400 /* Bytes */ |
| 16:24:03 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: haha |
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| 16:25:21 | Zagor | LinusN: tried flush() yet? |
| 16:25:38 | LinusN | nope, nut yet |
| 16:27:34 | kuji | 10 mins left for record test |
| 16:27:38 | kuji | ho hum |
| 16:31:42 | langhaarrocker | I can't do any record tests: my microphone has been claimed by the band and is installed somewhere on the drums now. :( |
| 16:33:08 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 16:36:37 | kuji | 30secs.. |
| 16:38:28 | kuji | whats the quickest way to check the real time length |
| 16:38:37 | LinusN | kuji: then you have another hour to listen and check the recording... :-) |
| 16:38:55 | LinusN | kuji: run VBRfix on it |
| 16:39:20 | kuji | its all there.. woot |
| 16:39:24 | kuji | wheres vbrfix |
| 16:39:37 | kuji | got it |
| 16:39:50 | langhaarrocker | Isn't there a phone number that keeps telling the time? Record that! |
| 16:40:18 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: in Sweden, it hangs up after 1 minute |
| 16:40:37 | kuji | useful prog |
| 16:41:06 | kuji | does it record ok say about 8hours now / |
| 16:41:16 | kuji | Im gonna record a psytrance party |
| 16:41:21 | langhaarrocker | LinusN: then use another coutries time service :) |
| 16:41:32 | LinusN | langhaarrocker: sounds cheap :-) |
| 16:41:46 | kuji | perfect recording |
| 16:41:48 | kuji | nice |
| 16:41:56 | LinusN | kuji: very long recordings may screw up, depending on how your HD is formatted |
| 16:42:00 | langhaarrocker | LinusN: The paypal money must be used on something. |
| 16:42:02 | quelsaruk | or you can buy a nuclear clock |
| 16:42:12 | Schnueff | hm anoncvs down? |
| 16:42:19 | LinusN | kuji: i am working on this as we speak |
| 16:42:45 | kuji | lin.. ok cool |
| 16:43:07 | Schnueff | ah worx again |
| 16:45:33 | Schnueff | LinusN: the vbrfixer is not yet committed, is it? |
| 16:47:02 | LinusN | no it isn't |
| 16:47:11 | Schnueff | k |
| 16:47:27 | Schnueff | i hope, once committed, i can make a stand-alone tool from it :) |
| 16:48:57 | LinusN | remember that it only adds a xing header and does not attempt to fix corrupt files |
| 16:49:15 | Zagor | LinusN: red sim builds soon |
| 16:49:38 | Schnueff | corrupt in the sense of wrong information in the xing header? |
| 16:50:03 | LinusN | Zagor: why? |
| 16:50:18 | LinusN | Schnueff: corrupt in the sense of bad MP3 data in the file |
| 16:50:22 | Zagor | /home/bjst/rockbox/uisimulator/x11/../../firmware/id3.c:467: undefined reference to `get_mp3file_info' |
| 16:50:41 | Zagor | uh, maybe I just haven't updated :-) |
| 16:50:54 | LinusN | try that, it will help |
| 16:50:54 | Schnueff | LinusN: ok, yes, no reason it should fix mp3 data |
| 16:55:21 | quelsaruk | LinusN: where is that tool? |
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| 16:56:30 | LinusN | quelsaruk: VBRFix? use google |
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| 16:56:55 | Bagder | rehi |
| 16:56:59 | LinusN | yo |
| 16:57:05 | quelsaruk | ahhh.. i thought it was a tool made by you |
| 16:57:09 | LinusN | can you use sourceforge CVS? |
| 16:57:17 | LinusN | i can't |
| 16:57:20 | Schnueff | anoncvs worked a moment ago |
| 16:57:22 | Zagor | I can |
| 16:57:25 | * | Bagder tries |
| 16:57:26 | Schnueff | but two moments ago it didnt |
| 16:57:29 | Schnueff | :) |
| 16:57:34 | Zagor | just committed %pv |
| 16:57:35 | Bagder | the anon one goes up and down |
| 16:57:36 | Bagder | non-stop |
| 16:57:45 | * | Bagder updates fine just now |
| 16:57:46 | quelsaruk | LinusN: it works for me |
| 16:58:41 | LinusN | Connection closed by 66.35.250.207 |
| 16:58:42 | LinusN | cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 16:58:42 | LinusN | [ |
| 16:58:45 | matsl | LinusN: anoncvs seems broken |
| 16:58:58 | LinusN | i don't use anon |
| 16:59:05 | Bagder | you sure? |
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| 16:59:47 | matsl | LinusN: :ext: works :pserver: seems broken. |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:11 | Bagder | check your CVS_RSH variable |
| 17:00:15 | LinusN | CVS/Root contains :ext:linusnielsen@cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rockbox |
| 17:01:17 | matsl | LinusN: strange. Your getting the error I'm getting for :pserver:! :ext: works for me. |
| 17:01:32 | LinusN | i did add a certificate at SF a few hours ago |
| 17:02:11 | Schnueff | you deposited a key? |
| 17:02:16 | Schnueff | that takes some time iirc |
| 17:02:32 | LinusN | yes, but it shouldn't cause those errors |
| 17:02:32 | Bagder | but the old approach should still work until the key works |
| 17:02:45 | LinusN | Bagder: it worked untila few minutes ago |
| 17:03:10 | Bagder | SF's cvs is very shaky |
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| 17:03:35 | Bagder | (mentioned that publicly a few weeks ago and got mailed by an SF admin...) |
| 17:03:58 | Schnueff | what did the admin write? |
| 17:04:07 | Bagder | they say they have a load problem with a very large amount of cvs accesses |
| 17:04:28 | Zagor | I can imagine |
| 17:04:28 | LinusN | woo, works from my other machine (labb.contactor.se) |
| 17:04:53 | Bagder | with the key or with passwd? |
| 17:04:59 | LinusN | another key |
| 17:05:21 | LinusN | maybe my firewall needs some tweaking... |
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| 17:06:24 | matsl | How is the relase going? Status? |
| 17:06:48 | Zagor | quick poll: should we write CRLF or LF to the generated .cfg files? |
| 17:07:00 | LinusN | lf |
| 17:07:04 | matsl | lf |
| 17:07:07 | Bagder | lf |
| 17:07:23 | Zagor | yeah, that's what I though too. just wanted to check. :-) |
| 17:07:36 | Bagder | poll result: 4 - 0 |
| 17:07:41 | Bagder | :-) |
| 17:08:42 | matsl | Strange thing though. all windows lamers will have a problem with this while we linux freaks hardly will notice the difference ;-) |
| 17:08:42 | langhaarrocker | damn. I was to late. |
| 17:09:08 | dwihno | crlf! |
| 17:09:09 | dwihno | crlf! |
| 17:09:09 | DBUG | Sent KICK dwihno to server |
| 17:09:09 | dwihno | crlf! |
| 17:09:09 | Kick | (#rockbox dwihno :Stop repeating yourself) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
| 17:09:13 | Bagder | I don't think windows people will have a problem, only those that'll load it with notepad |
| 17:09:14 | LinusN | hahahahaha |
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| 17:09:16 | dwihno | crlf! |
| 17:09:18 | dwihno | crlf ! |
| 17:09:21 | dwihno | :-) |
| 17:09:22 | #>> | "rocks" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 17:09:31 | * | dwihno rocks logbit |
| 17:09:34 | dwihno | logbit |
| 17:09:38 | dwihno | erhm, blah |
| 17:09:46 | dwihno | Men åååh |
| 17:09:48 | langhaarrocker | matsl: no. windows users expect a gui. They won't bother with text files. |
| 17:09:49 | dwihno | Jag är hungrig! |
| 17:09:59 | matsl | Bagder: don't windows users just do that ;-) |
| 17:10:00 | Zagor | does notepad require crlf? |
| 17:10:06 | langhaarrocker | yes |
| 17:10:06 | matsl | jupp |
| 17:10:08 | Bagder | notepad wants crlf, yes |
| 17:10:10 | Zagor | mooo |
| 17:10:25 | langhaarrocker | Use write instead -> but don't save it in rtf :) |
| 17:10:27 | Zagor | that's really weird, since windows normally uses LF. doesn't it? |
| 17:10:32 | Bagder | matsl: no, since .cfg won't be associated with that app ;-) |
| 17:10:41 | LinusN | it's my certificate that f*cks it up |
| 17:10:42 | Bagder | .cfg is probably already used by some weird app |
| 17:10:48 | Bagder | and people will double-click on it ;-) |
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| 17:11:02 | matsl | Bagder: right! So we can safely use lf then! |
| 17:11:07 | Schnueff | lf! |
| 17:11:09 | Bagder | hehe |
| 17:11:31 | langhaarrocker | I'd prefer rotfl |
| 17:11:32 | Schnueff | but .. imagine all the bug reports created .. |
| 17:11:36 | Schnueff | .. maybe crlf :) |
| 17:12:37 | Zagor | yeah, i'm thinking that too. |
| 17:12:53 | Schnueff | (because under linux there's some mount options to translates those automatically?) |
| 17:12:55 | Bagder | ok then |
| 17:13:29 | Schnueff | hm but its not triggered for .cfg files |
| 17:13:58 | Schnueff | ah no, the other way round |
| 17:14:35 | Schnueff | but i wouldn't use auto-conversion anyway :) |
| 17:15:19 | Zagor | maybe we should add fprintf(). doing snprintf();write() gets a bit boring in the long run... |
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| 17:15:46 | Zagor | still, i'm not going to write vprintf :-) |
| 17:16:23 | Bagder | the best way is to make a little macro/function for the core, and use that from all those functions |
| 17:27:00 | Zagor | btw, Linus and I discovered that the FM recorders can wake up from RTC! |
| 17:27:09 | Schnueff | great! |
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| 17:28:22 | langhaarrocker | OT: Is there accidently some tube-amp-electrician-guru around? |
| 17:28:46 | Schnueff | first you burn hi-tec processors, then u switch to tubes? :) |
| 17:29:24 | langhaarrocker | :) |
| 17:31:06 | Zagor | gotta go |
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| 17:35:51 | Bagder | anyone ever used cmake? |
| 17:35:57 | Bagder | (www.cmake.org) |
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| 17:43:20 | matsl | Bagder: How things going with the relase? |
| 17:43:35 | Bagder | I don't really know |
| 17:44:02 | matsl | Ok. zagor knows? |
| 17:44:42 | LinusN | matsl: we are all waiting for me |
| 17:44:43 | Bagder | zagor knows everything! ;-) |
| 17:45:23 | matsl | Bagder: is that a healthy atitude between brothers? |
| 17:45:45 | Bagder | hey, he's not here then I can say nice things about him |
| 17:45:45 | matsl | LinusN: Ok. So what are you up to then? |
| 17:45:50 | Bagder | just don't tell him I did ;-) |
| 17:46:01 | LinusN | i am working with the recording |
| 17:46:05 | matsl | he might readthe logs. |
| 17:46:15 | Bagder | I'll edit them ;-) |
| 17:47:16 | matsl | LinusN: So if you take a really long time we will have lots of features in the next release. |
| 17:47:50 | LinusN | haha |
| 17:48:02 | LinusN | it's not about features |
| 17:48:45 | matsl | no not your job. I was thinking of what the rest will do while you'r busy doing real stuff. |
| 17:49:42 | matsl | Anyway. I was just trying to see if there were something I could do to help. |
| 17:51:25 | LinusN | there are bugs and patches to work on |
| 17:56:47 | matsl | LinusN: you mean. Just grab any nonsolved bug on the bug reports page and fix it. |
| 17:58:28 | langhaarrocker | eg: dynamic tags in wps aren't updated when in a scrolling line :) |
| 17:58:47 | LinusN | matsl: sort of |
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| 18:00:14 | matsl | LinusN: sort of means that there are bug reports that should simply be rejected? |
| 18:00:22 | LinusN | or wait until after 2.0 |
| 18:00:39 | LinusN | i have a question for you recorder guys |
| 18:00:55 | LinusN | generating a xing header takes time, lots of time |
| 18:01:27 | matsl | LinusN: So we are back to square one where I wanted some task assigned from one of the gurus! ;-) |
| 18:02:02 | LinusN | when finishing a recording, do we want to: |
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| 18:02:33 | LinusN | a) generate an empty xing header, so the playback will at least show that it is a vbr file |
| 18:02:46 | LinusN | b) save it without a header |
| 18:03:05 | LinusN | the a) alternative will show the wrong bit rate and wrong time |
| 18:03:15 | Bagder | but so will b |
| 18:03:33 | Bagder | too |
| 18:03:35 | Bagder | right? |
| 18:03:38 | LinusN | yes |
| 18:03:58 | LinusN | the a) alternative has one advantage |
| 18:04:29 | Bagder | yes, you can fill-in the info later without having to rewrite the whole file |
| 18:04:30 | LinusN | it will be nicer to the buffer threshold calculations |
| 18:04:55 | LinusN | if only the MAS could provide me with how many frames it has recorded, all would be fine |
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| 18:06:26 | LinusN | but the MAS stops counting at 0xfffff and doesn't wrap |
| 18:06:42 | LinusN | that happens after about 3hours |
| 18:06:51 | Bagder | that is so stupid |
| 18:07:04 | Bagder | and I guess re-starting it makes a glitch |
| 18:07:22 | LinusN | yup |
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| 18:20:27 | quelsaruk | re |
| 18:24:46 | Bagder | hi |
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| 18:27:52 | Bagder | rc5-72: " we'll |
| 18:27:52 | Bagder | hit 100% in 686,256 days at yesterday's rate. |
| 18:27:59 | Bagder | " |
| 18:28:15 | Bagder | it could take a while... :-) |
| 18:32:14 | * | quelsaruk calculates.... |
| 18:32:31 | quelsaruk | maybe i'm still young that day |
| 18:32:38 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 18:35:17 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 18:37:21 | jzoss | LinusN: I read your comments on my editID3 patch |
| 18:37:33 | jzoss | I follow most of them, and I'll get on those tonight |
| 18:37:56 | jzoss | Lots o' cleanup to do. =) Sorry about the mixed-case variable/func names. Missed that part of docs/contributing |
| 18:38:11 | LinusN | np |
| 18:38:23 | jzoss | Anyway, can you explain further what you meant by "Would prefer resize_id3v2 to create a new file"? |
| 18:38:24 | quelsaruk | LinusN: send inquisition to jzoss :) |
| 18:38:42 | jzoss | Sigh. I'm sitting through 3 other inquisitions as we speak. Not another one! |
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| 18:42:30 | jzoss | Are you saying change the func prototype to something more like resize_id3v2(filename, size)? So func can create new file, copy all data, delete the old file, rename new file to old filename? |
| 18:43:41 | LinusN | jzoss: sort of, yeah |
| 18:43:59 | jzoss | The advantage being less data shuffling, I assume. |
| 18:43:59 | LinusN | would probably be a lot faster |
| 18:44:18 | LinusN | the seek() operation is painful |
| 18:44:31 | jzoss | Okay. Fair enough. |
| 18:44:48 | jzoss | While I've caught you online, anything else that struck you as needing rework? |
| 18:45:05 | LinusN | hmmm |
| 18:45:27 | jzoss | The patch includes a quickie cfg loader/saver just for recording settings. 'Cause I didn't want to piggyback on the existing load/save that's just for cfg-block settings. |
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| 18:45:46 | jzoss | But with the new load/save .cfg-file code, it might be preferrable to call that code |
| 18:45:51 | LinusN | yup |
| 18:46:20 | LinusN | jzoss: what do you do when there is no ID3 tag at all in the file? |
| 18:46:28 | LinusN | expand? |
| 18:46:32 | jzoss | Yup. |
| 18:47:08 | jzoss | And take whatever default ID3 tags come out of the read-ID3 parser (probably NULL and empty values) |
| 18:47:11 | LinusN | you should check out the ID3/MP3 parser code i committed today |
| 18:47:28 | jzoss | Okay. I read the CVS commit notice |
| 18:47:39 | LinusN | it can find out if there is room even if there is no ID3 tag (all zeroes) |
| 18:48:06 | LinusN | the recorded files reserve 4K data in the beginning of the file |
| 18:48:39 | LinusN | use the mp3info() function to get the needed information |
| 18:48:49 | jzoss | Ahhh..I was pre-reserving an extra 500 bytes (or so) before recording, since I didn't know recording was doing that. |
| 18:49:05 | LinusN | then you will get id3 size, plus the space from the tag to the first playable frame |
| 18:49:06 | jzoss | Yes, it does use mp3info now. |
| 18:49:27 | jzoss | I just wasn't checking all that fun additional info |
| 18:49:29 | LinusN | jzoss: the recording didn't reserve space when you wrote your code, i added that today |
| 18:49:37 | jzoss | gotchya |
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| 18:50:13 | LinusN | jzoss: use the first_frame_offset and the xing_header_offset properties |
| 18:50:29 | jzoss | Xing_header comes before first_frame, right? |
| 18:50:35 | LinusN | yes, if it exists |
| 18:52:01 | LinusN | oops |
| 18:54:49 | jzoss | Question on how to best handle "uninitialized" id3 info: Right now, I always write all supported tags, even if they're just empty strings. |
| 18:55:02 | jzoss | Should probably only selectively write tags that have been set to something meaningful. |
| 18:55:04 | LinusN | don't do that |
| 18:55:16 | LinusN | i mean only write tags that have info |
| 18:55:40 | jzoss | So "don't selectively write tags", or "don't always write all tags" =) |
| 18:56:11 | LinusN | i mean only write tags that have info |
| 18:56:17 | jzoss | Right. I agree |
| 18:56:40 | jzoss | It works well for most, but we are currently initializing genre to 0. Which is a valid value ("Blues") |
| 18:56:55 | LinusN | where do we do that? |
| 18:56:57 | jzoss | Should genre be int instead of uchar and initialize to -1 or some such? |
| 18:57:08 | LinusN | good idea |
| 18:57:27 | jzoss | In setid3v2title, e.g. |
| 18:58:07 | jzoss | Mp3info inits to 0xff, but then calls setid3v2title |
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| 19:00:49 | jzoss | Init to 0xff is probably okay, since it looks like "known" tags only go up to 125. |
| 19:01:21 | LinusN | ok |
| 19:01:37 | jzoss | Anyway, I'm off to lunch. Thanks for looking at the patch. I'll cleanup some and hopefully work closer to something reasonable. =) |
| 19:02:19 | LinusN | great |
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| 19:41:41 | tracktheripper | Evening friends |
| 19:41:42 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 19:47:10 | tracktheripper | I wouldn't mind writing a manual for Rockbox in .doc or .txt format for this site |
| 19:47:25 | tracktheripper | if one could submit me how everything works i'd convert that into a manual |
| 19:47:28 | LinusN | a tex/pdf manual is in the works |
| 19:47:41 | tracktheripper | yea but I wouldn't mind writing it Linus |
| 19:50:08 | tracktheripper | errr LINUS where are the file extensions in SUPPORTED mode? |
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| 19:50:36 | LinusN | tracktheripper: known extensions are removed in supported mode |
| 19:50:47 | tracktheripper | ohhhh |
| 19:51:01 | tracktheripper | I thought my Archos was faulty when I saw the missing extensions |
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| 20:51:52 | Bagder | rehej |
| 20:52:02 | quelsaruk | ha det sa bra Bagder? |
| 20:52:08 | Bagder | hehe |
| 20:52:25 | Bagder | that's more of a good-bye thing to say |
| 20:52:29 | tracktheripper | Hi Badger |
| 20:53:19 | quelsaruk | really? |
| 20:53:41 | Bagder | quelsaruk: yes, like "have a nice day" kind-of-saying |
| 20:53:52 | quelsaruk | i thought it was a "how are you".. but seems i was in a great error ;) |
| 20:54:20 | quelsaruk | so how is how are you? |
| 20:54:38 | Bagder | "hur mår du?" |
| 20:54:50 | quelsaruk | arrrgg!! |
| 20:55:00 | quelsaruk | that sounds satanic or something like that |
| 20:55:06 | Bagder | it is |
| 20:55:08 | quelsaruk | inkisition may punish you! |
| 20:55:11 | Bagder | we are all satanists |
| 20:55:21 | Bagder | we believe in the power of goats |
| 20:55:28 | quelsaruk | goats are not satanic |
| 20:55:31 | quelsaruk | poor goats |
| 20:55:32 | Bagder | they're not? |
| 20:55:32 | quelsaruk | :( |
| 20:55:42 | quelsaruk | they love heavy metal |
| 20:55:44 | quelsaruk | :) |
| 20:55:47 | quelsaruk | not death metal |
| 20:56:08 | LinusN | Bagder: scrolling information can't be updated in the current rockbox version as far as i can see |
| 20:56:43 | LinusN | i don't see a function that updates the scrolled information without resetting the scroll |
| 20:56:45 | Bagder | well, that's a bug isn't it? |
| 20:57:06 | Bagder | I've seen it scroll with updated info in the past |
| 20:57:13 | LinusN | in your dreams |
| 20:57:15 | LinusN | :-) |
| 20:57:16 | Bagder | nope |
| 20:57:18 | Bagder | in the sim |
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| 20:57:34 | LinusN | i tried it today |
| 20:57:37 | Bagder | or was it a sim of my dreams? |
| 20:57:40 | Bagder | :-P |
| 20:58:03 | LinusN | the code doesn't update scrolled lines, and if it does, the scroll starts over |
| 20:58:04 | Bagder | well, the bug reports says it doesn't work, so I'm not that surprised it doesn't work ;-) |
| 20:58:32 | Bagder | scrolling the same line on the same place shouldn't restart the scroll |
| 20:58:43 | Bagder | that could be a solution perhaps |
| 20:58:57 | tracktheripper | yea Linus Ive just emailed you what I have done so far, Im gonna continue tommorow as I have to be up early for work and Im feeling a bit tired |
| 20:58:58 | LinusN | how does lcd_puts_scroll() know if the line hasn't changed? |
| 20:59:06 | LinusN | tracktheripper: sure |
| 20:59:08 | Bagder | good q |
| 20:59:30 | tracktheripper | I got your friend's email Linus, thanks |
| 20:59:44 | LinusN | good, and join the mailing list |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:20 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 21:00:39 | tracktheripper | Ill sign up to the mailing list once everyone is happy wiv the layout so far |
| 21:02:32 | tracktheripper | <−−−−- is no longer gonna submit feature requests. |
| 21:02:53 | tracktheripper | im gonna concentrate on the manual instead |
| 21:03:31 | quelsaruk | but if you do so, you'll make bagder a happy man! |
| 21:03:36 | quelsaruk | you can't! |
| 21:03:49 | tracktheripper | whats that Quel? |
| 21:04:31 | quelsaruk | if you stop submiting features... |
| 21:04:41 | Bagder | haha |
| 21:05:12 | * | quelsaruk fears the day logbot kicks him |
| 21:05:38 | >>> | "kick quelsaruk" by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
| 21:06:34 | * | Bagder faints |
| 21:06:45 | * | Bagder got a one-shot donation of 300 US$ for curl |
| 21:07:27 | LinusN | nice! |
| 21:07:52 | quelsaruk | wao! |
| 21:08:17 | quelsaruk | for whom or for what are those dollars? ;) |
| 21:08:43 | Bagder | donation from a friendly chap as a thanks for my tool and library curl |
| 21:09:21 | quelsaruk | ahhh... i remember that program :) |
| 21:09:24 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 21:12:04 | quelsaruk | i bet you he's not spanish |
| 21:12:47 | tracktheripper | Quel why u upset im no longer submitting requests? |
| 21:13:27 | quelsaruk | nevermind tracktheripper, another spanish joke |
| 21:13:50 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 21:14:04 | LinusN | funny guys, those spanish fellows... :-) |
| 21:14:15 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 21:14:33 | tracktheripper | Linus is it best if I write the manual when Notepad is fully maximised? |
| 21:14:36 | Bagder | locos! |
| 21:14:40 | Bagder | :-O |
| 21:14:51 | LinusN | tracktheripper: it shouldn't matter |
| 21:15:13 | tracktheripper | ok :-) |
| 21:15:20 | PsycoXul | notepad? |
| 21:15:21 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:15:24 | tracktheripper | yea Im gonna continue tommorow afternoon |
| 21:15:31 | tracktheripper | should have far more information |
| 21:15:33 | LinusN | tracktheripper: maybe consider a better text editor |
| 21:15:44 | tracktheripper | all I have is Notepad |
| 21:16:05 | LinusN | there are zillions of freeware text editors out there |
| 21:16:17 | tracktheripper | ohhh |
| 21:16:26 | >>> | "cmd" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:16:31 | PsycoXul | there's even vim for windows |
| 21:16:35 | PsycoXul | but i don't wanna traumatize you |
| 21:17:03 | LinusN | Windows - from the guys who brought you Edlin |
| 21:17:05 | Bagder | "its simple, just press :q! and nothing is damaged!" ;-) |
| 21:17:20 | >>> | "sview" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:17:27 | PsycoXul | hehe |
| 21:17:41 | >>> | "cmd explain" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:17:57 | >>> | "explain *" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:18:04 | tracktheripper | Linus ive changed the font to Times New Roman in Notepad |
| 21:18:07 | >>> | "help expadd" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:18:08 | tracktheripper | makes it much easier to read |
| 21:18:41 | >>> | "expadd Rockbox = A firmware replacement for the Archos MP3 players, http://rockbox.haxx.se/" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:18:47 | >>> | "pass" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 21:18:53 | >>> | "newpass" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 21:18:54 | quelsaruk | spanish are not crazy |
| 21:18:55 | quelsaruk | just me |
| 21:18:57 | >>> | "expadd Rockbox = A firmware replacement for the Archos MP3 players, http://rockbox.haxx.se/" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:18:57 | quelsaruk | remember that!! |
| 21:19:02 | quelsaruk | i'm the one |
| 21:19:03 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 21:19:59 | >>> | "expadd quelsaruk=Crazy spanish person. Techno priest. Known to sacrifice goats at midnight to please the debugger gods." by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:20:13 | #>> | "explain quelsaruk for us please?" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:20:22 | Bagder | aaaah |
| 21:20:24 | Bagder | that explains it |
| 21:21:07 | quelsaruk | ;) |
| 21:21:44 | >>> | "expadd Zagor=The dark overlord of the Rockbox cult." by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:24:25 | >>> | "explain logbot=I am me" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:24:32 | >>> | "expadd logbot=I am me" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:24:50 | >>> | "explain *" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:24:58 | #>> | "explain zagor" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:24:59 | tracktheripper | <−−−−−−−−- is busy working on the Manuel |
| 21:25:53 | PsycoXul | logbot: explain bagder |
| 21:26:04 | PsycoXul | logbot: explain psycoxul |
| 21:26:06 | PsycoXul | heh |
| 21:26:09 | LinusN | logbot explain linusn |
| 21:26:21 | * | LinusN is disappointed |
| 21:26:25 | quelsaruk | hehe |
| 21:26:32 | LinusN | logbot: explain linusn |
| 21:26:37 | LinusN | booh |
| 21:26:39 | Bagder | he's picky who he talks to ;-) |
| 21:27:22 | >>> | "expadd LinusN=He Who Make The Sounds Go Beep" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:27:29 | #>> | "explain LinusN" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:27:36 | Bagder | :-) |
| 21:27:38 | quelsaruk | buuuuu |
| 21:27:42 | quelsaruk | :P |
| 21:30:41 | >>> | "op" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] |
| 21:30:41 | DBUG | sent MODE #rockbox +o Bagder |
| 21:30:41 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by logbot (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
| 21:31:49 | >>> | "help sview" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:31:56 | >>> | "sview linusn" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:32:13 | >>> | "help useradd" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:32:32 | >>> | "useradd linusn 200" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
| 21:34:17 | quelsaruk | time to go home! |
| 21:34:23 | quelsaruk | cu tomorrow! |
| 21:34:48 | Bagder | night quelsaruk |
| 21:35:21 | quelsaruk | bye Bagder, LinusN, i hope we see you here more continously |
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| 22:20:54 | MastaKeev | hey... anybody awake? |
| 22:21:53 | nikkelitous | Yeah. |
| 22:22:01 | nikkelitous | I can't help much but I'm awake |
| 22:22:19 | MastaKeev | lol |
| 22:23:03 | nikkelitous | So is there anything I can do for ya? |
| 22:23:17 | MastaKeev | ::shrug:: just a question... when you buy a new recorder, does it only use the rom firmware or does it have it on the hd already too |
| 22:23:48 | MastaKeev | directory snoop doesn't show anything that even resembles firmware |
| 22:24:02 | nikkelitous | Hmm. I dunno. |
| 22:24:19 | nikkelitous | It probably has a rom firmware but anything on the disk probably overrides it. |
| 22:24:52 | MastaKeev | yeah... i know thats how it works, im just lookin for the stupid firmware on the hd |
| 22:24:54 | MastaKeev | :-) |
| 22:24:55 | Hadaka | MastaKeev: usually has nothing on the HD |
| 22:25:17 | Hadaka | MastaKeev: if you want the "original" firmware, you have to download it from the net |
| 22:25:21 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:25:25 | nikkelitous | You probably have to put one on there. |
| 22:25:25 | MastaKeev | heheh archos is so cheap though, i hate that... they fix up archos'es that were returned and send em back out |
| 22:25:41 | nikkelitous | Thats the way everyone does it. |
| 22:25:43 | MastaKeev | don't even bother to delete the HD... lol |
| 22:25:49 | nikkelitous | Oh ok. |
| 22:26:01 | nikkelitous | Thats odd. Did it have some songs on it? |
| 22:26:06 | Hadaka | err |
| 22:26:15 | Hadaka | they don't fix FM recorders anymore I think |
| 22:26:22 | Hadaka | they replace them |
| 22:26:40 | Hadaka | atleast that's what Linus guessed when he opened one up |
| 22:27:13 | LinusN | that's the feeling i got when i opened mine up, yes |
| 22:27:19 | MastaKeev | ::shrug:: probably |
| 22:27:32 | LinusN | but it might just have been me |
| 22:27:44 | MastaKeev | mine had like 1gb of music still on it from the previous owner when i opened it up |
| 22:28:00 | LinusN | MastaKeev: see it as a bonus :-) |
| 22:28:08 | MastaKeev | i cant wait for the day when someone opens up the multimedia archos and finds gigs of porn... |
| 22:28:11 | nikkelitous | Thats what I'd say. |
| 22:28:17 | nikkelitous | hehehe. |
| 22:28:29 | MastaKeev | LinusN: hah if i could understand any of it... it was in french |
| 22:28:32 | nikkelitous | I'll have to do a check on mine when it gets here. |
| 22:28:49 | nikkelitous | Foreign music is funny. |
| 22:29:04 | LinusN | i like french pop |
| 22:29:25 | MastaKeev | nikkelitous: spanish death metal :-) |
| 22:30:19 | LinusN | Hadaka: i have improved my Fmrec opening skills since then, btw |
| 22:30:32 | MastaKeev | LinusN: hehe did i ever say i deleted it? :-) |
| 22:30:36 | nikkelitous | te-hehe. |
| 22:30:38 | Hes | swedish metal is strange enough, we get some on the radio here 8-) |
| 22:30:46 | LinusN | hi hes! |
| 22:30:53 | Hes | hi there. |
| 22:31:12 | nikkelitous | Swedish metal? What about Japanese metal. |
| 22:31:19 | nikkelitous | Now thats some weird music. |
| 22:31:35 | Hadaka | LinusN: I never even heard the final results of that first dissection :) |
| 22:31:41 | MastaKeev | hah yeah... hey LinusN... i was gonna do some playing around with the firmware myself |
| 22:31:45 | LinusN | Hadaka: i am working on it |
| 22:32:05 | MastaKeev | mind saving me a little trouble and telling me how it 'scrambles' it |
| 22:32:09 | MastaKeev | :- |
| 22:32:11 | MastaKeev | ) |
| 22:32:11 | LinusN | i have photos and schematics coming up |
| 22:32:42 | LinusN | bad news is that the remote control isn't supported anymore |
| 22:32:53 | MastaKeev | aww |
| 22:32:55 | LinusN | and i can't see how digital I/O could work |
| 22:32:58 | Hadaka | cool! photos rock :) |
| 22:33:07 | Hadaka | hmmh, well that's bad |
| 22:33:17 | LinusN | good news is that fmrec can poweron with RTC alarm |
| 22:33:45 | LinusN | the fm radio part has no RDS |
| 22:33:50 | LinusN | :-( |
| 22:34:19 | Hes | digital I/O ... no SPdif at all? |
| 22:34:42 | LinusN | the manual says it should work, but nothing comes out of it |
| 22:34:56 | LinusN | it is supposed to share the LineIn jack |
| 22:35:02 | nikkelitous | I think I went and accidently mirrored the Rockbox website. |
| 22:35:28 | Hes | and it's not optical? |
| 22:35:33 | LinusN | no |
| 22:36:07 | LinusN | the internal mic is better isolated |
| 22:36:15 | Hes | some MD devices have a 3.5mm stereo jack with an optical SPdif input inside it too |
| 22:36:15 | LinusN | but not good enough |
| 22:36:25 | Hes | together with the analog input |
| 22:36:45 | Hes | but coaxial SPdif with analog audio, that's... strangish 8-) |
| 22:36:51 | LinusN | yes |
| 22:37:11 | nikkelitous | I wish I could figure out WTH that meant. |
| 22:38:08 | * | Hes is playing with a quakeworld server... slightly retro |
| 22:38:49 | nikkelitous | Hardware work is way beyond me. I can barely tell the difference between a resistor and a transistor. |
| 22:39:21 | MastaKeev | lol |
| 22:40:09 | MastaKeev | ::shrug:: just smile and nod nikkelitous... thats what i do |
| 22:42:04 | nikkelitous | Ahh ok. Smile and nod. |
| 22:42:37 | MastaKeev | ::yawn:: hey LinusN... exactly how many lines of code is the disassembly |
| 22:42:45 | nikkelitous | I'm only an expert at one thing when it comes to tech: Operating systems. Almost any OS I can or am already a master of. |
| 22:42:54 | LinusN | MastaKeev: the disassembly? |
| 22:44:05 | MastaKeev | of the descrambled .ajz f |
| 22:44:21 | LinusN | i have no idea |
| 22:44:54 | LinusN | i only looked at it a few times, looking for specific h/w usage |
| 22:45:32 | MastaKeev | enough to bring my 2.7ghgz, 1gig ram to a crawl |
| 22:46:00 | LinusN | the disassembled ajz was of quite little use when reverse engineering the jukebox |
| 22:46:24 | MastaKeev | i just need the first 1000 lines or so to |
| 22:46:36 | MastaKeev | see how it starts up |
| 22:46:44 | LinusN | why? |
| 22:47:09 | LinusN | why do you bother about the original firmware? |
| 22:47:12 | nikkelitous | I have a question: What is needed to compile the UISimulator for Win32? |
| 22:47:30 | MastaKeev | make the most obfuscated "hello world" program ever :-) |
| 22:47:33 | LinusN | nikkelitous: a compiler |
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| 22:47:56 | MastaKeev | nikkelitous: read /docs/UISI |
| 22:48:06 | LinusN | MastaKeev: i don't follow you |
| 22:48:19 | MastaKeev | MULATOR |
| 22:49:13 | MastaKeev | LinusN: see if i can get it to boot up and say "hello world" or something... i know im re-inventing the wheel, but im bored and it sounds interesting |
| 22:49:37 | nikkelitous | Hello World |
| 22:50:18 | LinusN | MastaKeev: then why disassemble the firmware? Use the source code instead |
| 22:51:32 | MastaKeev | good question... but i'd probably understand the whole process a bit better if i looked at the firmware... |
| 22:52:14 | MastaKeev | ::shrug:: i guess it would be a bit easier to look at the source... any specific files i should start with? |
| 22:52:19 | LinusN | MastaKeev: the source code *is* the firmware |
| 22:52:39 | LinusN | crt0.S, main.c |
| 22:52:45 | LinusN | system.c |
| 22:53:09 | nikkelitous | MastaKev: I read that but it only says 'No info yet.' for win32. |
| 22:53:51 | MastaKeev | the source of your firmware... i was looking at the disassembly of theirs |
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| 23:02:29 | nikkelitous | I get 3 errors when I try to compile the UISimulator. All three are where a variable is undeclared. |
| 23:04:27 | nikkelitous | How big is the screen on the recorder? Pixelwise. |
| 23:07:56 | LinusN | nikkelitous: 112x64 |
| 23:08:05 | LinusN | nikkelitous: what errors? |
| 23:08:05 | nikkelitous | Ok. Thanks. |
| 23:08:16 | nikkelitous | LCD Height and Width. |
| 23:08:31 | nikkelitous | Both are apparently supposed to be constants but are never declared. |
| 23:08:44 | LinusN | nikkelitous: how are you trying to compile? |
| 23:08:49 | nikkelitous | and BUTTON_MENU |
| 23:09:06 | LinusN | did you use the configure script? |
| 23:09:16 | nikkelitous | I tried 33 different ways. Dev-C++, GCC, and Cygwin GCC. |
| 23:09:47 | nikkelitous | in Cygwin I just did a make. |
| 23:09:54 | nikkelitous | 3 different ways. Not 33 |
| 23:10:20 | nikkelitous | What is BUTTON_MENU supposed to do? |
| 23:11:06 | nikkelitous | I think it is supposed to be the menu button but why does it need to be declared? |
| 23:11:09 | LinusN | i have never compiled the win32 simulator, but i'm pretty sure that you are not supposed to compile in the source code directory |
| 23:11:56 | nikkelitous | What do you mean? |
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| 23:12:53 | LinusN | when i build the x11 simulator, i create a dir in the rockbox dir, for example rockbox/mysim |
| 23:13:15 | LinusN | i go there and run ../tools/configure and answer the questions |
| 23:13:20 | LinusN | then i get a makefile |
| 23:13:35 | nikkelitous | But there is no config for win32. |
| 23:13:36 | LinusN | but that's for x11 |
| 23:13:53 | nikkelitous | I know I should just reboot to Linux but I've been doing things in Windows. |
| 23:13:56 | LinusN | win32 may be special |
| 23:14:16 | LinusN | everything is twice as difficult in Bill's world |
| 23:14:25 | nikkelitous | Of course Win32 is special. Anything made by Microsoft is retarded. |
| 23:14:58 | nikkelitous | Ok. I found the define for BUTTON_MENU. Why doesn't it work? |
| 23:15:22 | nikkelitous | It is defined and loaded. Why does the compiler say it isn't defined? |
| 23:16:14 | nikkelitous | Whats an #elif? |
| 23:16:40 | PsycoXul | else, if |
| 23:17:09 | LinusN | nikkelitous: i am pretty sure that you need to configure your makefile |
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| 23:17:32 | LinusN | just typing "make" in the win32 dir is not going to work |
| 23:18:33 | nikkelitous | Found the problem. For some reason you use BUTTON_MENU but it only gets defined if you are emu'ing a player. It doesn't happen for recorder. |
| 23:22:20 | nikkelitous | Working. I just made it so that the BUTTON_MENU gets declared no matter what. But it still only does anything using the player. |
| 23:23:26 | LinusN | nikkelitous: care to fix it and send a patch? |
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| 23:23:40 | nikkelitous | It's a bad hack. |
| 23:23:52 | LinusN | no, i said "fix it" |
| 23:23:53 | nikkelitous | I might submit a patch once I get the whole thing working. |
| 23:24:34 | LinusN | where in the code do we use BUTTON_MENU when simulating a recorder? |
| 23:25:00 | LinusN | are you using cygwin? |
| 23:25:02 | nikkelitous | You don't. |
| 23:25:16 | nikkelitous | Cygwin and Win. |
| 23:25:27 | nikkelitous | I was trying Cygwin to see if it worked there. |
| 23:25:33 | nikkelitous | And to run the makefile. |
| 23:25:41 | nikkelitous | I don't have make in winblows. |
| 23:29:00 | nikkelitous | Why does file.h get loaded multiple times? |
| 23:29:42 | nikkelitous | Now I'm confused. |
| 23:29:55 | nikkelitous | There seems to be 2 different file.hs. |
| 23:31:43 | nikkelitous | It also seems like this was designed to be compiled using visual c. |
| 23:31:48 | nikkelitous | Now isn't that silly. |
| 23:32:37 | LinusN | nikkelitous: what rockbox version are you trying to build? |
| 23:32:53 | nikkelitous | I'm trying to build the UISimulator. |
| 23:33:24 | LinusN | version, as in age |
| 23:33:30 | nikkelitous | CVS |
| 23:33:35 | nikkelitous | Brand new. |
| 23:33:45 | LinusN | ok |
| 23:33:59 | nikkelitous | I know thats bad form but I couldn't find it anywhere else. |
| 23:34:42 | nikkelitous | Ok... now all the errors I am getting are in ASM so I'm getting closer. |
| 23:35:06 | nikkelitous | The CVS included a VisualC project file. |
| 23:35:37 | nikkelitous | Too bad I'm on a boycott of all Visuals. |
| 23:36:06 | nikkelitous | I think that a cross-platform language should be capable of going cross-platform. |
| 23:36:24 | nikkelitous | J++? What is the advantage of that? |
| 23:38:01 | nikkelitous | My brand-new Archos just arived. |
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| 23:44:04 | tracktheripper | ello :) |
| 23:44:35 | PsycoXul | lots of jirc's on aol |
| 23:44:44 | PsycoXul | :p |
| 23:44:55 | tracktheripper | yes, AOL is my ISP |
| 23:45:00 | tracktheripper | ((unfortunatly)) |
| 23:47:14 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 23:47:17 | PsycoXul | companies that big are like those inflatable things that kids bounce around in |
| 23:47:27 | PsycoXul | and the customers are the air inside |
| 23:47:31 | PsycoXul | it's always leaking out, cause they blow |
| 23:47:39 | PsycoXul | but marketting is the pump that keeps it full |
| 23:48:30 | tracktheripper | :-| |
| 23:49:08 | PsycoXul | it's a screwed up system that makes the most successful companies me analogous to those inflatable things |
| 23:49:11 | PsycoXul | he |
| 23:49:14 | PsycoXul | h |
| 23:49:20 | PsycoXul | s/me/be/ |
| 23:49:45 | tracktheripper | talk properly |
| 23:49:46 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 23:50:26 | PsycoXul | eye yam tawlkeen prawpoorley |
| 23:50:41 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 23:50:48 | tracktheripper | (((starts fuming))) |
| 23:50:48 | tracktheripper | :-) |
| 23:51:07 | * | PsycoXul can smell the fumes |
| 23:51:22 | nikkelitous | Breath deep. |
| 23:51:50 | nikkelitous | I only have USB 1.1 :(. Need to buy a 2.0 PCMCIA card. |
| 23:51:59 | tracktheripper | breathes deeply |
| 23:52:15 | nikkelitous | Laptops suck. |
| 23:52:24 | nikkelitous | They are hard to upgrade. |
| 23:52:29 | tracktheripper | well at least they are "moveable" |
| 23:52:34 | tracktheripper | try using your PC on the train :-) |
| 23:52:39 | nikkelitous | But Laptops are the only systems that seem to use 'silent' technology. |
| 23:52:54 | nikkelitous | I don't move it. It stays right where it is. |
| 23:52:56 | tracktheripper | yea they don't whirr like a helicopter taking off :-) |
| 23:53:11 | nikkelitous | I have VERY sensitive ears so I refuse to use noisy fans. |
| 23:53:21 | tracktheripper | awww |
| 23:53:23 | nikkelitous | I might get a desktop with a passive water cooling though. |
| 23:53:35 | tracktheripper | I took the fans out and used a Flower heatsink :-) |
| 23:53:43 | nikkelitous | That works too. |
| 23:54:01 | nikkelitous | But it's hard to take the fan out of the power supply. |
| 23:54:03 | tracktheripper | yea |
| 23:54:13 | tracktheripper | just rip the damn thing out :-) |
| 23:54:33 | nikkelitous | But then the system seems to shoot sparks and send up a lot of smoke |
| 23:54:44 | tracktheripper | :-| |
| 23:54:46 | nikkelitous | I was young and stupid. Ruined a perfectly good P90. |
| 23:54:52 | tracktheripper | awwww |
| 23:55:03 | nikkelitous | Cost over $1000 to get a new one. |
| 23:55:09 | tracktheripper | You can even buy "processor refrigeration units" |
| 23:55:18 | LinusN | nikkelitous: i just built a win32 simulator for the very first time in my life |
| 23:55:23 | nikkelitous | I hate fridges. |
| 23:55:41 | nikkelitous | Really? You had more luck than I did. |
| 23:56:07 | tracktheripper | How are they gonna cool the new 1Thz processors when they come out? |
| 23:56:09 | nikkelitous | I live in a 5 bedroom house. I am in the smallest room because it is the farthest from the noisy fridge. |
| 23:56:11 | tracktheripper | Liquid Nitrogen? |
| 23:56:13 | LinusN | i installed cygwin and compiled it like i use to compile the x11 simulator and the target firmware |
| 23:56:33 | LinusN | using the configure script, like i told you |
| 23:56:38 | nikkelitous | heh. I'll just have it at the house next door. |
| 23:56:50 | nikkelitous | LinusN: I agree... I am an idiot. |
| 23:56:51 | tracktheripper | lol |
| 23:56:57 | tracktheripper | heehee |
| 23:58:04 | tracktheripper | :-( |
| 23:58:07 | nikkelitous | I really don't know too much about real-world programming. 4 years of school but around 4 days of experience. |
| 23:58:11 | | Join Low009 [0] (Mp3@212.116.168.39.knet.co.il) |
| 23:58:19 | LinusN | read docs/README |
| 23:58:31 | nikkelitous | I read all the docs. |
| 23:58:44 | LinusN | what is the dir called where you have the rockbox source? |
| 23:58:47 | nikkelitous | I read everything on the site before I ever came to the IRC. |
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