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01:02:32 | xbxb | anyone here? |
01:02:47 | tracktheripper | hi |
01:02:55 | xbxb | hi.. |
01:03:16 | xbxb | is there a chance to get a firmware for the jukebox fm recorder at any time? |
01:03:32 | xbxb | i didn't find something about that @ the page |
01:03:48 | tracktheripper | check the daily builds |
01:04:00 | tracktheripper | there are some experimental FM recorder firmwares there |
01:04:27 | xbxb | hm.. ok I'll look again |
01:06:18 | xbxb | i have another question... maybe someone in here can help me out |
01:06:55 | xbxb | the frequencies of the radio are fixed range... is there a possibility to expand the ranges to listen to fequencies like 126,3 for example |
01:07:12 | tracktheripper | probably not as this is done i nhardware |
01:08:34 | xbxb | I'll use the feature request and see what they say... thanx forya halp |
01:09:03 | tracktheripper | no probs |
01:09:19 | tracktheripper | Xbxb how well does the FMrec pick up FM? |
01:09:48 | xbxb | in my opinion it is quite good |
01:10:26 | xbxb | i bought it 2 weeks ago so i couldnt test it as much as i wanted ot because i am busy at the moment |
01:11:16 | xbxb | you can adjust sensitivity and mono/stereo so that you'll have a good quality |
01:11:24 | tracktheripper | :D |
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03:26:13 | PsycoXul | so like what are the cases for the recorder and FM recorder like? |
03:26:24 | PsycoXul | aluminum back plastic front like the players? all plastic? all aluminum? |
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04:43:22 | Goku4658 | uhh does anyone know if the gnush toolchain v0301 works? |
04:43:28 | Goku4658 | with rockbox? |
04:44:31 | Goku4658 | ok, i will check the log for an answer tomorrow. |
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08:45:52 | Bagder | morning Zagor_ |
08:46:07 | dwihno | Morning Z, B |
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08:46:13 | Zagor | yo |
08:46:22 | Zagor | dwihno, did you take the new code for a walk? |
08:46:51 | dwihno | Zagor: I was in a bit of a hurry last night, so I didn't have the time to wait for a build. I'll test it throughly during the weekend though. |
08:47:00 | Zagor | ok |
08:47:13 | Bagder | there's a suspected file problem |
08:47:24 | dwihno | You think it's fixed? I am reading the mail list and the posts by you, Linus and Holden... |
08:47:28 | Bagder | hardeep pointed out that is what causes the queue problem |
08:47:59 | Zagor | Bagder: ok? any details? |
08:48:05 | Bagder | the queue file gets damaged |
08:48:26 | Bagder | hardeep says it started on the 11th, which was when lots of things were made |
08:48:48 | Zagor | ok |
08:48:52 | Bagder | I don't know if the problem is easy to repeat or not |
08:49:05 | Bagder | but excersising the queue function might be a good start ;-) |
08:49:25 | dwihno | I tried it out, it works quite nicely |
08:51:21 | Zagor | dwihno: the queuing? |
08:51:27 | dwihno | *nods* |
08:52:31 | dwihno | Tried it out with the "die Welt gehört mir"-album |
08:52:47 | dwihno | the best part is, that it resumes the initial playlist when the queue is done! :) |
08:55:41 | Zagor | isn't that a bug? ;*) |
08:56:51 | dwihno | Hah |
08:56:52 | dwihno | :-) |
08:57:09 | dwihno | Remove that feature and I'll stop all starka såsen shipments to Stockholm (with omnejd) ;) |
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09:04:17 | Zagor | oh no |
09:04:50 | dwihno | :O |
09:04:50 | dwihno | ;) |
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09:21:24 | LinusN | oh no! Don't stop the starka såsen!!! |
09:21:42 | LinusN | Zagor: we have a file system bug? |
09:23:08 | Bagder | we may |
09:23:40 | LinusN | not again...i had such a hard time finding the last one |
09:24:01 | Bagder | I think hardeep is on the watch for this |
09:24:15 | Schnueff | moin |
09:26:38 | Bagder | LinusN: hardeep says it got in on the 11th |
09:27:02 | Bagder | I had a deeper look at the file.c changes of that day, but I didn't spot anything odd |
09:27:31 | LinusN | i'll see if i can repeat it |
09:29:32 | dwihno | Linus: haha, where did you read about that? ;) |
09:29:40 | dwihno | :-) |
09:30:25 | LinusN | dwihno: i read minds |
09:30:28 | dwihno | I'll test the new ATA stuff during lunch. The weather is excellent! |
09:30:28 | LinusN | and logs |
09:30:30 | dwihno | :O |
09:30:34 | dwihno | You cheater! ;) |
09:30:43 | Zagor | Bagder: the 11th? nothing much was changed then... the 12th I could understand. |
09:31:20 | Bagder | well I think it may be in the changes dated the 11th |
09:32:32 | LinusN | wow, the queue file is f*cked up badly |
09:33:29 | Zagor | Bagder: ah, right. the 10th saw the flush() function. that's probably it. |
09:33:40 | Bagder | right |
09:33:49 | LinusN | i think the append is bad |
09:34:22 | Zagor | try re-adding the seek() in flush_cache() |
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09:36:22 | quelsaruk | hi |
09:36:26 | Bagder | hi q |
09:37:13 | quelsaruk | Q isn't the inventor in james bond's films?? |
09:37:22 | quelsaruk | another techno priest! |
09:38:00 | Bagder | nah, Bond is old you're the new Q |
09:38:22 | quelsaruk | :) |
09:40:27 | LinusN | Zagor: explain the lseek() logic to me, when oldsector and newsector are the same |
09:41:30 | Zagor | if the cache is empty, and we seek into the sector, we need to read the sector into the cache |
09:42:33 | LinusN | i see now |
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09:44:35 | LinusN | the queue file contains the first queued file, and the rest is 0x00 |
09:44:48 | Bagder | badness |
09:45:24 | LinusN | so it seems that the data isn't flushed correctly |
09:46:10 | quelsaruk | hi LinusN! |
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09:46:31 | LinusN | Zagor_: i repeat |
09:46:33 | LinusN | the queue file contains the first queued file, and the rest is 0x00 |
09:46:44 | LinusN | but the length seems ok |
09:50:00 | Zagor_ | ok |
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09:51:02 | LinusN | quelsaruk: hi |
09:56:26 | quelsaruk | must go.. |
09:56:31 | quelsaruk | cu l8r |
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10:43:33 | dwihno | Zagor: Have you read the notes from Holden? Seems there is still some red led dead cases. |
10:43:48 | Zagor | yes |
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10:58:32 | mastakeev | hey all |
10:58:43 | Bagder | hi |
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11:00:07 | mastakeev | whats up? |
11:03:23 | mastakeev | just out of curiousity... how similar are the original firmwares for the recorder and the player? |
11:03:54 | Bagder | the original? you mean the archos ones? |
11:03:58 | mastakeev | yeah |
11:04:12 | * | Bagder has no clue |
11:04:29 | mastakeev | i was going through the documentation trying to verify some of the stuff... |
11:04:59 | mastakeev | mucho difference |
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11:06:40 | Bagder | I wouldn't be surprised if they were separately developed |
11:07:01 | mastakeev | i guess.. ::shrug:: |
11:07:39 | mastakeev | but still... wouldn't stuff like the entry point for code be the same? (::shrug:: i really don't know much about this crap, just like to learn) |
11:07:53 | Bagder | perhaps |
11:07:55 | Bagder | who cares? |
11:08:11 | mastakeev | lol |
11:08:41 | mastakeev | if your trying to figure out how all these bits and pieces fit together.. it helps |
11:09:46 | Bagder | no |
11:09:56 | Bagder | we don't need to know one bit of how the archos firmware works |
11:10:13 | Bagder | we replace it |
11:10:23 | Bagder | everything, completely, the lot, from scratch |
11:11:14 | mastakeev | kinda figured thats how you guys did it... ::shrug:: well... mabye im lookin in all the wrong places. |
11:11:41 | Bagder | get the rockbox sources and read them instead |
11:12:39 | mastakeev | heheh i tried... they get crazy after a while |
11:16:03 | mastakeev | ::shrug:: never gotten this uhh... low-level i guess you could say |
11:19:21 | mastakeev | well hmm... where does the source begin exactly? might as well start from the beginning |
11:20:45 | LinusN | crt0.S defines the restet vector |
11:20:49 | LinusN | reset vector |
11:21:11 | LinusN | the reset vector points to "start" |
11:21:27 | LinusN | first in that file |
11:21:38 | mastakeev | cool... thanks |
11:21:48 | Zagor | i recommend starting in apps/main.c instead |
11:21:57 | Zagor | the main() function |
11:22:27 | LinusN | Zagor: you are soft! :-) |
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11:25:30 | Zagor | :-) |
11:26:10 | mastakeev | wow so basically all crt0.S is doing is copying the vbr to 0x90000000, then calling main_k? |
11:27:42 | Zagor | a bit more, but generally |
11:28:44 | mastakeev | and that would be the main() in apps/main.c, huh? |
11:28:49 | LinusN|away | yup |
11:29:20 | mastakeev | muahaha well at least i have a start now... mabye i can make some sense out of this shit now |
11:31:04 | mastakeev | thanks :-) |
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12:05:51 | tracktheripper | morning everybody |
12:19:01 | matsl | Zagor: Bagder: Just added some player keyboard docs. Could you have a look at it. Don't know really how to check how it will look at the site. |
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12:24:37 | quelsaruk | hi |
12:24:40 | quelsaruk | again |
12:26:23 | tracktheripper | Zzzzzzz |
12:26:25 | tracktheripper | hi Quel |
12:26:28 | tracktheripper | :-) |
12:26:54 | quelsaruk | hi tracktheripper |
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12:27:29 | tracktheripper | :-P |
12:31:46 | Zagor | matsl: http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/play-keyboard.html |
12:33:20 | Bagder | my suggestion: do the screen dump without the windows borders |
12:33:21 | Zagor | matsl: crazy idea: instead of the checkered square cursor, use a custom char char XORs a vertical bar in the first column |
12:36:33 | matsl | Zagor: didn't look that bad anyway ;-) |
12:36:49 | Zagor | no, it look good I think |
12:36:56 | matsl | Zagor: Ignoring the graphics details. Did the text make sence? |
12:38:08 | Zagor | I haven't read it ;-) |
12:38:17 | matsl | Bagder: You are free to use gimp and remove the frames ;-) |
12:38:53 | tracktheripper | matsl Ive looked at and it looks pretty good on the link Zagor provided ;-) |
12:40:33 | matsl | Zagor: about the crazy idea. good idea but we rejected it because we don't have the built in charset. It is doable though. |
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12:49:32 | quelsaruk | re Zagor_ |
12:51:21 | tracktheripper | :) |
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13:06:35 | Zagor | try running xf86cfg |
13:06:41 | Zagor | uh, wrong window |
13:08:04 | quelsaruk | ;) |
13:09:26 | matsl | Zagor: (A thing just struck me) about the cursor thing on the player; you do know that the cursor is blinking? (Thought it was better show the setup with the cursor visible but it might give you the impression the cursor allways hides the character behind it. Which it doesn't.) |
13:09:58 | Zagor | ah, ok. I actually tried it in the simulator a few days back, but I forgot that. |
13:10:07 | Zagor | yeah, then the current cursor is ok |
13:10:26 | matsl | still the crazy idea is neat but not essential. |
13:10:59 | Zagor | yup |
13:27:46 | quelsaruk | cu later |
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13:48:20 | TBoy | hi |
13:51:26 | Bagder | 'lo |
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13:54:23 | dwihno | Tja Glenn! |
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14:02:24 | TBoy | badger did you or have you looked at the bug I reported |
14:03:20 | Bagder | I did not |
14:03:27 | TBoy | considering the queue only playing 1 song |
14:03:27 | Bagder | if you refer to me :-) |
14:03:37 | TBoy | ooh |
14:03:40 | TBoy | sorry |
14:03:46 | Bagder | the queue problem is under investigation |
14:03:52 | Bagder | it is a file write/append problem |
14:04:06 | TBoy | so you have been able to produce it |
14:04:11 | Bagder | both hardeep and LinusN have seen it happen |
14:04:15 | glen | hi |
14:04:44 | glen | i have a question, will fm be supported soon on fm recorder new os? |
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14:05:13 | Zagor | glen: define "soon". :-) |
14:05:27 | TBoy | yeah |
14:08:39 | glen | hmm |
14:08:43 | glen | before 1 month :) |
14:08:53 | glen | because now i can't listen to the radio anylonger |
14:08:57 | glen | :p |
14:09:25 | TBoy | bagder: I saw you lowered the priority on my bug report, how come |
14:12:23 | Zagor | glen: probably not within one month, no |
14:13:21 | TBoy | oohh |
14:15:03 | glen | ohh |
14:15:07 | glen | 2 months? :) |
14:15:08 | glen | btw |
14:15:14 | glen | ur os is really cool :) |
14:15:15 | glen | thx |
14:15:21 | glen | i had a problem with sound |
14:15:27 | glen | and now this problem is dead :) |
14:15:38 | glen | but, i can't use the radio >< :p |
14:22:01 | TBoy | what does the follow playlist function do |
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14:26:56 | Zagor | TBoy: it puts the browser in the same dir as the currently playing track |
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14:30:29 | TBoy | aah |
14:30:30 | TBoy | thx |
14:30:48 | hardeep | Zagor? |
14:31:05 | Zagor | here |
14:31:27 | hardeep | heh, i think i found the file bug causing queuing to fail |
14:31:44 | hardeep | a quick-fix patch: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/patches/file_seek.diff |
14:31:45 | Zagor | nice! what is it? flush_cache()? |
14:31:49 | Zagor | looking |
14:32:13 | Zagor | yeah, that's what I though |
14:32:14 | Zagor | t |
14:32:14 | hardeep | although i think a better solution would be to add a flag to fat_readwrite telling it not to update sector/cluster |
14:32:24 | hardeep | to save the extra seek |
14:32:49 | TBoy | yeah so you guys fixed it |
14:32:56 | Zagor | TBoy: not yet |
14:33:51 | Zagor | brb |
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14:44:47 | Zagor | hardeep: yes, I agree. |
14:47:18 | TBoy | 0000, |
14:47:32 | TBoy | sry a ball fell on my keyboard |
14:48:22 | hardeep | Tboy: laugh |
14:48:51 | hardeep | Zagor: Should I change it or were you going to? |
14:50:42 | Zagor | i'll take a look at changing fat_readwrite() |
14:52:03 | hardeep | cool |
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15:03:38 | TBoy | what is the Ample project |
15:03:47 | Zagor | TBoy: google |
15:03:58 | TBoy | I know |
15:04:23 | TBoy | I already started but just asked since you mentioneed it in your code |
15:04:32 | Zagor | we do? |
15:05:18 | TBoy | yeah you said some code is stolen from the Ample project |
15:05:27 | TBoy | well I found out |
15:05:36 | Zagor | where do we say that? |
15:05:37 | TBoy | it is a mp3server |
15:05:50 | TBoy | /* |
15:05:50 | TBoy | * Parts of this code has been stolen from the Ample project and was written |
15:05:50 | TBoy | * by David Härdeman. It has since been extended and enhanced pretty much by |
15:05:50 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK TBoy |
15:05:50 | TBoy | * all sorts of friendly Rockbox people. |
15:05:50 | TBoy | * |
15:05:50 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
15:05:50 | TBoy | */ |
15:05:59 | TBoy | in the latest bleeding edge |
15:06:14 | Zagor | where is that? |
15:06:23 | Zagor | yes, but which file? |
15:06:56 | TBoy | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/rockbox/firmware/id3.c?rev=1.70&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
15:07:00 | TBoy | try this link |
15:07:17 | TBoy | in here is the link above |
15:07:18 | TBoy | http://rockbox.haxx.se/cvsmod/cvsmod-2003-03-13%2019:20:00.html |
15:07:18 | Zagor | id3.c ok, thanks |
15:10:29 | TBoy | zagor do I need perl to compile rockbox |
15:11:00 | Zagor | yes |
15:12:51 | TBoy | ok and I am registering for the gnush prog and what target hardware should I pick |
15:13:04 | TBoy | to wich family does the sh11 belong to |
15:14:13 | Zagor | go here instead: http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html |
15:14:23 | TBoy | ok thx |
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15:18:51 | Nomad__ | morning |
15:20:42 | Nomad__ | who to talk to about the anti-skip code? |
15:20:53 | TBoy | not me :D |
15:21:36 | Zagor | Nomad__: me |
15:22:58 | Nomad__ | I installed the last bleeding edge on tues I guess and set the anti-idle to 7 (max?) |
15:23:06 | Nomad__ | err, anti-skip |
15:23:25 | Nomad__ | I ride a motorcycle to work (25 miles of highway) so it'd be very helpful to me |
15:23:30 | Nomad__ | any thing I can do to help in the dev of it? |
15:23:39 | Nomad__ | no-I'm not a coder but I'm a good guinea pig |
15:23:59 | Zagor | hardeep: I think you can commit that file.c patch first. the fat change is a bit messy... |
15:24:29 | Zagor | Nomad__: what is happening? |
15:25:10 | Nomad__ | I'll be going down the road and it'll be a little bumpy for a bit (5 mins or so) and it'll stop playing |
15:25:28 | Nomad__ | sometimes if I slow down or the road smooths out it'll pick back up |
15:25:41 | Nomad__ | I've got the unit double wrapped in soft foam to help |
15:25:49 | Zagor | I committed one fix for that yesterday. you should try todays daily build. |
15:25:59 | Nomad__ | I don't know if the anti-skip will help or if it's just too much or what |
15:26:02 | Nomad__ | ok |
15:26:14 | Nomad__ | is it in today's bleeding edge? |
15:26:18 | Zagor | also, it could be a simple hardware problem. does your unit act weird if you twist and press on the rubber ends? |
15:26:20 | Nomad__ | I'm not set up to compile currently |
15:26:21 | Zagor | Nomad__: yes |
15:26:46 | Nomad__ | nop,e it behaves fine twisting, etc (just did it here at my desk) |
15:27:36 | Zagor | yesterday's fix should help a bit, although there still appears to be a problem. |
15:29:16 | Nomad__ | ok, I may be able to report in this weekend, if not I should know by monday |
15:29:26 | Zagor | ok |
15:35:48 | TBoy | zagor |
15:35:58 | TBoy | what does the tut mean by this |
15:36:00 | TBoy | Download and unpack RockBox sourcecode to /home/rockbox OR check out via CVS (make sure you are in /home/rockbox). For CVS - make sure your personal firewall allows cvs.exe connect to cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net. You have personal firewall, haven`t you ? ;) |
15:36:16 | TBoy | by download it to /home/rockbox |
15:36:21 | TBoy | do I have to |
15:36:33 | TBoy | or I don't get it |
15:38:08 | Zagor | you need the source code if you want to compile rockbox |
15:38:15 | TBoy | I know that |
15:38:26 | TBoy | but what should I do now |
15:38:42 | TBoy | after step 7 I just don't get it |
15:39:10 | TBoy | I he talks about downloading somethin and to deactivate the firewall |
15:39:13 | dwihno | Zagor: I got a really cool idea. Isn't it possible to connect 2 PC's with a "crossover" USB2 cable to get 480 mbit/s transfer rate? :) |
15:39:17 | Zagor | "Download and unpack RockBox sourcecode". which part don't you understand? |
15:39:19 | dwihno | (with some mods, of course) |
15:39:31 | Zagor | dwihno: no. read the faq... |
15:39:44 | TBoy | yeah the /home/rockbox |
15:39:47 | dwihno | Zagor: Two PC's, not two rockboxes. |
15:39:52 | TBoy | do I have to put it there |
15:40:05 | Zagor | dwihno: oh, sorry. yeah that's possible. such cables exist. |
15:40:09 | TBoy | dwihno: yeah that should work |
15:40:15 | dwihno | Zagor: Even for USB2? :D |
15:40:16 | Zagor | TBoy: no. you can put it anywhere |
15:40:23 | dwihno | That would be so goddamn cool! |
15:40:24 | TBoy | ok |
15:40:26 | Zagor | dwihno: i guess so, although I haven't seen it |
15:40:35 | dwihno | Kicking 100mbit NIC ass :D |
15:40:56 | dwihno | What a good idea |
15:40:59 | Zagor | pretty limited use though... |
15:41:07 | dwihno | Indeed. |
15:41:12 | dwihno | But still pretty cool :) |
15:41:37 | TBoy | wow I again get this n00bie feeling |
15:41:40 | TBoy | ehm |
15:41:53 | TBoy | can I just use one of the bleeder codes |
15:42:53 | Zagor | bleeder codes? |
15:43:09 | TBoy | bleeding edge source codes |
15:43:26 | TBoy | hehe I should stop making these new names |
15:43:46 | Zagor | download the daily source code. bleeding edge and daily build are two different things |
15:44:04 | TBoy | oohh |
15:44:05 | TBoy | ok |
15:44:18 | TBoy | but here is the question, the main one |
15:44:25 | TBoy | Start building: |
15:44:25 | TBoy | user@host ~/build-dir |
15:44:25 | TBoy | $ make |
15:44:34 | TBoy | how do I make/build the firmware |
15:44:41 | TBoy | what does that text mean |
15:45:10 | Zagor | read docs/README |
15:46:18 | TBoy | ok |
15:50:42 | TBoy | shouldn't there be a make executeable or somethin |
15:50:49 | TBoy | in the tools.tar |
15:51:31 | Zagor | no |
15:51:42 | Zagor | 'make' comes with the compiler |
15:52:11 | TBoy | ok I'm abit confused |
15:52:23 | TBoy | don't let me annoy you |
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16:04:56 | TBoy | I'm having problems understanding this |
16:05:09 | TBoy | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/how_to_compile.html |
16:05:17 | TBoy | thats the right link? |
16:05:39 | Zagor | yeah |
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16:08:02 | TBoy | I'm not acually new to codeing since I have/know delpi/pascal |
16:08:09 | TBoy | but this is to complicated |
16:08:19 | TBoy | I don't fatta it |
16:08:25 | matsl | cu bbl |
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16:09:47 | Zagor | you should follow these instructions to the letter: http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html |
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16:11:59 | TBoy | yeah but what should I do with the .cvspass file |
16:12:52 | TBoy | I some how so stupid I apologize for all these questions |
16:12:52 | TBoy | ohh ok |
16:12:52 | TBoy | I think I got it |
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16:13:13 | TBoy | thx zagor |
16:14:37 | Zagor | ignore the CVS stuff if you download the source tarball |
16:18:16 | TBoy | oh ok |
16:21:46 | TBoy | should I just extract the tarball into the cygwin or what? |
16:24:40 | Bagder | extract it wherever you want |
16:24:54 | TBoy | ok |
16:26:58 | Bagder | Zagor: perhaps you should try to make a walk-through of the bugs, like you did with the patches |
16:27:12 | Bagder | I just recalled that playlist bug |
16:27:21 | Bagder | create-playlist bug |
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16:29:12 | Zagor | could be an idea |
16:29:22 | Zagor | lots of work though.. |
16:29:26 | Bagder | true |
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16:42:28 | * | Zagor found an interesting passage in the ATA specification |
16:42:53 | Zagor | "Device errors encountered during READ MULTIPLE commands are posted at the beginning of the block or partial block transfer, but the DRQ bit is still set to one and the data transfer shall take place, including transfer of corrupted data, if any." |
16:43:34 | Zagor | our ata driver retries immediately on disk error, without transferring the data |
16:43:50 | Bagder | aha |
16:44:44 | TBoy | I can't figure how to compile |
16:44:54 | * | TBoy cries outloud |
16:46:39 | Bagder | what document did you read that doesn't work? |
16:47:06 | Bagder | tried http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/firsttime.html ? |
16:47:16 | TBoy | yes |
16:47:34 | TBoy | that confused me so zagor told me to look at the |
16:47:47 | TBoy | http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html |
16:47:53 | TBoy | site |
16:47:59 | Bagder | that tells you how to install the cygwin env, yes |
16:48:05 | Bagder | then you need to build rockbox |
16:48:09 | Bagder | http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/how_to_compile.html |
16:48:26 | TBoy | ahh |
16:48:27 | TBoy | ok |
16:48:39 | Schnueff | hm what GMT time do we have currently? |
16:49:02 | Schnueff | hm never mind |
16:58:42 | TBoy | how do I execute a script |
17:00 |
17:06:07 | TBoy | how do I run the tools/configure script |
17:12:56 | hardeep | Tboy: run it from a cygwin shell |
17:13:58 | TBoy | ok the problem was that 1 of the folders was named "my Fw |
17:14:11 | TBoy | now it works |
17:14:18 | TBoy | ok now I have a quesion |
17:14:28 | TBoy | If I know download a patch |
17:14:43 | TBoy | know=now |
17:15:00 | TBoy | how can I add it and compile it in the firmware |
17:15:26 | hardeep | see http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html |
17:15:35 | TBoy | oh yeah |
17:15:49 | TBoy | I just figured that out |
17:22:13 | MT | Zagor: have the changes needed to wake up fm recorder been added to cvs? |
17:24:14 | Zagor | MT: no |
17:24:40 | MT | i'll keep using that custom build then |
17:24:41 | MT | heh |
17:24:43 | Zagor | but you can simply change your config-fmrecorder.h to add "#define HAVE_ALARM_MOD 1" |
17:24:57 | MT | ah - is that all it is? |
17:25:00 | Zagor | yup |
17:25:05 | MT | excellent ;) |
17:25:34 | Zagor | i'll add it right away |
17:26:51 | Zagor | added |
17:27:02 | Zagor | gotta go. |
17:27:03 | | Part Zagor |
17:32:24 | adi|work | has anyone been experiancing playback problems? |
17:33:00 | adi|work | nm.. was my speaker cable :) |
17:33:06 | * | adi|work whistles innocently |
17:34:10 | Schnueff | heh |
17:39:08 | TBoy | if I download a patch |
17:39:23 | TBoy | where should I put it or doesn't it matter |
17:40:25 | Schnueff | maybe read http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html for some infos |
17:41:14 | TBoy | I can't wait till I figure this all out |
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18:21:44 | TBoy | guys |
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18:22:35 | TBoy | when it asks me what file to patch what file should I pick |
18:23:02 | Bagder | you should probably re-run the command with a better -p number |
18:23:08 | TBoy | ok |
18:24:03 | Bagder | weekend! |
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18:27:45 | TBoy | helginn!!! wochenende!!! weekend!!! yeah cya later |
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18:45:30 | TBoy | hey |
18:45:44 | TBoy | this id3tag edit patch |
18:46:05 | Zagor | Nomad__: you here? |
18:46:05 | TBoy | its says that on line 10 it coldn't |
18:46:23 | TBoy | find a file to patch |
18:46:37 | Zagor | TBoy: patches are against a specific version. the the source code changes, the patch has to be manually tweaked to work. |
18:46:46 | TBoy | how should I proceed |
18:46:57 | TBoy | ohh |
18:47:02 | TBoy | so how can I get it to work |
18:47:48 | TBoy | so what do I have to tweak |
18:48:34 | Zagor | basically you look in the .rej file and see what went wrong. then you apply the changes manually. |
18:49:20 | TBoy | ok where to look for the .rej file |
18:49:54 | Zagor | in the same dir as the source file that was patched |
18:50:55 | TBoy | do I have to place the patch in a specific folder |
18:52:12 | Zagor | have you read this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html ? |
18:52:16 | TBoy | yeah |
18:52:24 | TBoy | I have but it doesn't tell me that |
18:52:53 | TBoy | so that doesn't matter |
18:53:24 | Zagor | the patch can be anywhere. it's only the patch content that is important |
18:53:49 | TBoy | I just somehow find it hard to understand this I don't know maybe I'm just not reading or realizing everything |
18:53:50 | TBoy | ok |
18:54:07 | TBoy | but this .rej isn't produce |
18:54:33 | TBoy | brb |
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19:26:07 | TBoy | ok back |
19:52:23 | TBoy | I need |
19:52:25 | TBoy | help |
19:52:50 | TBoy | can some1 tell me what I need to tweak to get the id3tag edit patch to work |
19:53:33 | TBoy | It always tells me that on line 10 it couldn't find a file to patch |
19:53:38 | TBoy | what should I do |
19:54:52 | PsycoXul | try adding -p1 option to patch |
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19:55:00 | PsycoXul | even if it needs tweaking it should still find the files |
19:55:31 | PsycoXul | while it doesn't matter where the patch is, it does matter where you're applying it from |
19:56:36 | TBoy | ok |
19:56:41 | TBoy | I'll try that |
19:56:50 | TBoy | what does p1 mean |
19:56:55 | TBoy | I read the patch.html |
19:57:04 | TBoy | what does it do |
19:57:29 | PsycoXul | the p option strips elements from the path specified in the patch file |
19:57:33 | PsycoXul | the number tells it how many |
19:57:40 | TBoy | oh ok |
19:57:51 | PsycoXul | often patches are done like between rockbox-new and rockbox-old or something of that nater |
19:57:51 | TBoy | so from where should I be applying it from |
19:58:01 | PsycoXul | so you have to go into rockbox and give -p1 so it strips those off |
19:58:04 | PsycoXul | and nthings like that |
19:58:15 | PsycoXul | s/nater/nature/ |
19:58:20 | PsycoXul | s/nthings/things/ |
19:58:20 | PsycoXul | heh |
19:58:24 | TBoy | hehe |
19:58:39 | PsycoXul | it depends on where it expects to find the files |
19:58:48 | PsycoXul | look at the patch file, there should be paths to files right near the top |
19:59:02 | PsycoXul | you can usualy tell where it wants to be applied from and what -p option if any it'll need from that |
19:59:31 | TBoy | am I allowed to rename the patch |
19:59:39 | TBoy | since its name is so large/long |
19:59:42 | Schnueff | yes |
19:59:44 | TBoy | ok |
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20:00:40 | TBoy | well it says cvsroot/rockbox/apps/main.c |
20:00:43 | PsycoXul | location and filename of the patch don't matter, just it's contents |
20:00:56 | PsycoXul | ok so cd to the directory where you've got rockbox/ under |
20:00:59 | PsycoXul | and do patch -p1 |
20:01:05 | TBoy | ok |
20:01:21 | PsycoXul | or cd to the rockbox dir and give -p2 i guess heh |
20:01:28 | PsycoXul | either way should probably work |
20:02:38 | TBoy | hhmm |
20:02:53 | TBoy | I put it in cygwin/rockbox still no work |
20:03:21 | PsycoXul | you did what? |
20:03:46 | TBoy | I put it in my rockbox folder, the patch |
20:03:52 | Schnueff | does compilation work already for you, TBoy ? |
20:04:04 | PsycoXul | like i said, the location of the patch makes no difference |
20:04:06 | TBoy | woah |
20:04:09 | PsycoXul | it's what directory you're in when you run patch |
20:04:09 | TBoy | stop |
20:04:21 | Schnueff | hm |
20:04:22 | TBoy | do I have to compile it first |
20:04:26 | PsycoXul | no |
20:04:32 | PsycoXul | you have to compile it after |
20:04:36 | TBoy | ok |
20:04:46 | Schnueff | sorry, misread something |
20:04:52 | TBoy | ok |
20:05:02 | TBoy | but in my rockbox dir there is no apps folder |
20:05:07 | Schnueff | hmm |
20:05:16 | Schnueff | there should be the checked out cvs sources |
20:05:23 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:05:50 | TBoy | and the thing is I don'T get the .rej file |
20:05:57 | PsycoXul | ok go into whatever dir you have apps docs firmware and tools directories in |
20:05:58 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:06:25 | TBoy | yeah thats where I did it from the beginning |
20:06:42 | PsycoXul | it has to find the file and fail to patch it before it'll make a .rej |
20:06:53 | PsycoXul | well go there and give it -p2 |
20:06:54 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:07:05 | TBoy | Is it possible that this patch is corrupt or something |
20:08:27 | TBoy | darn I can't get it to work |
20:08:43 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:08:51 | TBoy | Zagor told me I would have to tweak it |
20:09:11 | PsycoXul | you have to get it to attempt to apply to the right files before you can do that |
20:09:14 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:10:01 | TBoy | if I upload it on my server would 1 of you guys get it see what I am doing wrong and tell me |
20:10:09 | Schnueff | upload the patch file? |
20:10:17 | Schnueff | u got it unmodified from sourceforge probably? |
20:10:21 | TBoy | yeah |
20:10:24 | TBoy | ok |
20:10:30 | TBoy | you could download it from there |
20:10:41 | TBoy | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=44306&atid=439120&file_id=44325&aid=697085 |
20:10:47 | TBoy | if any1 is interested |
20:11:23 | Schnueff | i c |
20:11:32 | TBoy | what is the prob |
20:12:15 | Schnueff | dunno:) |
20:12:28 | TBoy | :D muhaha |
20:12:31 | Schnueff | u gotta find your ./apps/ folder |
20:12:53 | TBoy | yeah I got that on with the tar ball |
20:13:36 | Schnueff | source-tarball? |
20:13:42 | TBoy | yep |
20:14:55 | PsycoXul | what directory is your ./apps/ directory in? |
20:15:15 | TBoy | C:\cygwin\My-FW\14-03-03 |
20:15:20 | PsycoXul | ok |
20:15:22 | TBoy | this is how it looks like |
20:15:36 | PsycoXul | so do "cd \cygwin\My-FW\14-03-03" |
20:15:50 | PsycoXul | then do "patch -p2 <patchfile" |
20:16:00 | PsycoXul | if thats how you run patch on patchfile |
20:16:29 | PsycoXul | "patchfile" of course needs to include the path to the patch file if it's not in that directory |
20:17:07 | PsycoXul | hmm |
20:17:17 | PsycoXul | actualy |
20:17:29 | PsycoXul | i just looked at the patch |
20:17:32 | PsycoXul | give it -p0 from that directory |
20:17:37 | PsycoXul | instead of -p2 |
20:17:58 | PsycoXul | −−- apps/main.c 14 Feb 2003 09:44:33 -0000 1.67 |
20:17:58 | PsycoXul | +++ apps/main.c 7 Mar 2003 04:30:58 -0000 |
20:18:03 | PsycoXul | thats what it's looking for |
20:18:09 | PsycoXul | so you don't want it to strip any path elements |
20:19:13 | TBoy | yeah |
20:19:16 | TBoy | it got further |
20:19:36 | TBoy | but it says failed on many lines |
20:19:39 | TBoy | is that ok |
20:19:47 | PsycoXul | thats what'll make the .rej files |
20:20:10 | TBoy | ok |
20:21:15 | TBoy | the bad thing is I don't know a how to prog a hello world prog in c |
20:21:19 | TBoy | only in delpi :D |
20:21:23 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:21:32 | PsycoXul | well |
20:21:35 | PsycoXul | good luck with that |
20:21:38 | PsycoXul | :p |
20:21:41 | Schnueff | heh |
20:21:54 | TBoy | heh yep |
20:22:53 | TBoy | ok i'll just post apart |
20:22:59 | TBoy | ok? |
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20:23:31 | PsycoXul | heh |
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20:23:36 | TBoy | sry :D |
20:23:37 | TBoy | hehe |
20:24:43 | TBoy | sorry guys |
20:24:53 | TBoy | I just so want to add this |
20:25:22 | adi|work | add what? |
20:25:34 | TBoy | the id3tag edit patch |
20:25:40 | Schnueff | why right now? :) |
20:25:51 | TBoy | don't know |
20:25:55 | TBoy | just feel like it |
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20:28:20 | TBoy | http://www.herzovision.de/obrien-richard/Richard/mpeg.c.rej |
20:28:31 | TBoy | could some1 tell me what is wrong in the code |
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20:31:44 | Schnueff | hm the first chunk looks easy enough |
20:32:27 | Schnueff | in the patch file change the line "@@ -1828,16 +1832,11 @@" to "@@ -1828,15 +1832,11 @@" and remove the + line three lines below that line :) |
20:32:46 | Schnueff | hm ah dunno |
20:33:19 | TBoy | why, just so I learn something out of this |
20:33:58 | Schnueff | u see in the .rej file, there are blocks separated by "***************" |
20:34:10 | TBoy | aahh |
20:34:18 | Schnueff | each one is called chunk |
20:34:44 | TBoy | and how do I know what I should change it to |
20:35:50 | Schnueff | each chunk has two parts: what the patch programme has found and what it would have like to put it, at a specific file position |
20:36:03 | Schnueff | so you stare at it and modify the code accordingly ;] |
20:36:10 | TBoy | ahh ok |
20:36:21 | TBoy | so I change the main patch file |
20:36:36 | TBoy | and the .rej are only log dumps right |
20:37:33 | Schnueff | i must confess, i dont know |
20:37:42 | Schnueff | if i get reject, i edit the source file |
20:37:51 | TBoy | ok |
20:38:28 | TBoy | so the lines that have a "-" at the beginning I should exchange with the ones that have a plus |
20:40:18 | Schnueff | hm no |
20:40:29 | TBoy | what then |
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20:44:34 | TBoy | schueff you there |
20:44:43 | Schnueff | yes |
20:45:08 | TBoy | if I'm not supposed to do that how do I know what line |
20:45:36 | TBoy | to change |
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20:47:05 | TBoy | zagor I have now made it |
20:47:09 | TBoy | to the .rej |
20:47:11 | TBoy | files |
20:47:25 | Schnueff | now comes the tweaking...;) |
20:47:51 | Zagor | I see you guys have a patch class. excellent! :-) |
20:47:55 | Schnueff | heh |
20:48:19 | TBoy | yep and I'm doin detentin |
20:48:19 | Schnueff | teacher, i wanna know what to do once i got the .rej files |
20:48:38 | TBoy | detention |
20:48:39 | Schnueff | do i (a) edit the .diff, (b) the .rej or (c) the source? |
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20:50:25 | Zagor | Schnueff: uh, after what? |
20:50:38 | Schnueff | after chunk misapplication |
20:50:51 | Schnueff | after having the rejects |
20:50:59 | TBoy | after the patching, yeah |
20:51:29 | Zagor | look in the .rej file and edit the source |
20:51:37 | Schnueff | ok, that was my approach |
20:51:49 | Schnueff | (to update a patch) |
20:51:55 | Schnueff | then run diff over it once again |
20:52:02 | TBoy | and I when get the .rej files do I edit the lines with a "-" in fornt of them to the ones with a "+" infront |
20:57:56 | TBoy | guys am I right |
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21:00:01 | Schnueff | TBoy: there's no recipe for resolving those conflicts. |
21:00:52 | TBoy | but why or how did you know to what I should change those numbers to |
21:01:18 | Schnueff | forgot about the numbers |
21:01:28 | Schnueff | if you want, edit the file mpeg.c |
21:01:40 | Schnueff | at about line number #1830 |
21:01:51 | Schnueff | (for the first chunk) |
21:01:53 | TBoy | and should I than patch again |
21:02:14 | Schnueff | nope, if you corrected the code, you can compile |
21:02:36 | Schnueff | but if you download a new source package, you have to hand-modify again |
21:02:42 | Schnueff | so, that'll be no fun in the long run |
21:02:54 | TBoy | so I only have to fix the .rej and then compile am I right |
21:02:59 | Schnueff | and, without programming knowledges, chance are good that you mess something up |
21:03:04 | Schnueff | no, not the .rej file |
21:03:17 | Schnueff | for mpeg.c.rej you've got to fix mpeg.c |
21:17:48 | TBoy | so if I am right |
21:18:13 | TBoy | http://www.herzovision.de/obrien-richard/Richard/mpeg.c.rej |
21:18:30 | TBoy | in this file |
21:19:40 | Schnueff | ?! |
21:21:06 | TBoy | can I the change the lines that are between the stars, the 1829,1844 and the −−-, the 1833,1843 |
21:21:13 | TBoy | to the lines below |
21:21:20 | Schnueff | 21:03 < Schnueff> for mpeg.c.rej you've got to fix mpeg.c |
21:21:21 | TBoy | to the chunk below |
21:21:29 | TBoy | yeah I know |
21:22:03 | Schnueff | sorry, i dont wanna check |
21:22:25 | TBoy | but can I use the lines below the 1833,1843 |
21:23:50 | TBoy | ok I'll just try |
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21:30:02 | TBoy | I'm sorry but I just can't do it |
21:30:13 | TBoy | I think I'll just give it uo |
21:30:15 | TBoy | up |
21:30:26 | TBoy | I don't get what needs to be changed |
21:33:50 | TBoy | I'll just give it uo |
21:33:51 | TBoy | up |
21:33:54 | TBoy | Zagor |
21:34:17 | TBoy | you fixed the bug I reported |
21:34:20 | Zagor | yup |
21:34:26 | TBoy | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=703231 |
21:34:36 | TBoy | could you set it to fixed |
21:34:48 | TBoy | I sent in the queue bug yesterday |
21:34:59 | Zagor | oh, that. yeah, that was hardeep. |
21:35:02 | Zagor | i'll mark it |
21:35:07 | TBoy | oh yeah |
21:35:16 | TBoy | I n apologize |
21:42:59 | TBoy | zagor |
21:43:27 | Zagor | ya? |
21:43:38 | TBoy | darn it I forgot what |
21:43:45 | TBoy | I wanted to ask you |
21:43:51 | Zagor | haha |
21:43:57 | TBoy | don't you hate that |
21:44:34 | TBoy | ah |
21:44:38 | TBoy | I got it |
21:45:06 | TBoy | will it be possible to edit txt files, on the box, in the future |
21:45:35 | Zagor | yeah, maybe, if someone writes code to that effect |
21:49:37 | TBoy | but tag editing will be am I right |
21:54:05 | Zagor | I have no crystal ball. I don't know what software people will write. :-) |
21:54:22 | TBoy | yeah I mean the patch is there |
21:54:33 | TBoy | thats the patch I've been trying to get to work |
21:54:42 | Zagor | ok |
21:54:54 | Zagor | the patch is not mature enough to me merged into the main code yet |
21:54:59 | TBoy | oh ok |
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23:00:58 | TBoy | so nothing happend for an hour now |
23:01:12 | TBoy | hhmmm |
23:01:57 | TBoy | I've got an Idea |
23:02:00 | TBoy | Let |
23:02:11 | TBoy | lets party |
23:03:57 | * | TBoy dance alone on the dancefloor hopeing the rest of the guys joins him so he won't look embaressed |
23:09:17 | TBoy | Zaggie my man |
23:11:07 | TBoy | is possible add a sign or logo, as a font and than call it up in the wps with somesort of ascii code |
23:11:28 | Zagor | no |
23:11:34 | Zagor | you need to replace the entire font |
23:12:41 | TBoy | so I could replace let say this letter ð with a little batterie logo |
23:13:24 | Zagor | yes |
23:13:30 | TBoy | ok |
23:13:51 | TBoy | and how would I call this letter up |
23:14:30 | Zagor | use the letter that you replaced |
23:14:35 | TBoy | ok |
23:17:09 | TBoy | and will it be possible to get the clock as a tag for the wps |
23:17:50 | TBoy | that way I could make the status bar same size as my other stuff |
23:18:45 | TBoy | but on the other hand then it would blend in with the other stuff |
23:19:37 | TBoy | have you considered to use more then 1 font type |
23:19:43 | TBoy | I heard something about it |
23:20:57 | Zagor | not really. fonts use a lot of ram. |
23:21:07 | TBoy | ok |
23:21:17 | Zagor | but maybe |
23:21:22 | TBoy | but wouldn't it be possible to make the same font bold |
23:21:34 | Zagor | yeah, it could be |
23:21:36 | TBoy | like make it 1 pixel wider |
23:21:53 | Zagor | yup |
23:23:00 | TBoy | and that wouldn't hog the mem, I'd think |
23:24:17 | TBoy | but the thang with the clock |
23:24:23 | TBoy | wouldn't that be possible |
23:24:37 | Zagor | yeah, it is |
23:24:59 | TBoy | ok just askin |
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23:46:06 | Legal_Lies | hi |
23:47:11 | Legal_Lies | can someone help me with a question about upgrading the HDD? |
23:47:28 | Zagor | maybe |
23:47:32 | Legal_Lies | hi |
23:47:38 | Legal_Lies | i have a JB 20 Rec |
23:47:53 | Legal_Lies | i was thinking of changing to a 60 gig hd |
23:48:04 | Legal_Lies | ? |
23:48:11 | Zagor | ok |
23:48:25 | TBoy | interesting |
23:48:46 | Legal_Lies | do you think the JB has enough power to spin this hdd? |
23:48:51 | Zagor | sure |
23:49:03 | Legal_Lies | really? great |
23:49:08 | Zagor | as long as you use a standard 9.5" 4200rpm disk, no problem. |
23:49:26 | Zagor | 9.5mm even |
23:50:14 | Legal_Lies | i was thinking of a toshiba mk6021gas |
23:50:33 | Legal_Lies | it is 4200 rpm, 9.5'' |
23:50:52 | Zagor | yup, looks fine |
23:51:03 | Legal_Lies | i also looked to the 5400 rpm but thoght it would be pushing the jb too much |
23:51:16 | TBoy | probably would |
23:51:30 | Zagor | even if the jb could handle it, it would drain the batteries much faster |
23:51:40 | Legal_Lies | that's true |
23:52:05 | Legal_Lies | do you know anyone who has tried a capacity this big |
23:52:06 | Legal_Lies | ? |
23:52:52 | Zagor | yes, several people |
23:53:20 | Zagor | dw|gone here in the channel did it recently, with a hitachi disk I believe |
23:53:28 | Legal_Lies | successfully, i hope... :))) |
23:53:31 | Zagor | yes |
23:53:39 | Legal_Lies | i feel better |
23:54:17 | Legal_Lies | ok, i will try it |
23:55:02 | Legal_Lies | if i fail, i will have a very expensive digital alarm clock on my table... thanks a lot |
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23:55:51 | Legal_Lies | keep on the good work, bye |
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