00:00:06 | adi|work | true |
00:00:28 | MT | hmm |
00:00:43 | Bagder | soooooon |
00:01:11 | tracktheripper | I read that the "make the normal Recorder pick up FM" was officially "the most outrageous request" on here |
00:02:14 | tracktheripper | Anyways im off to have a shower be back here soon :-) |
00:02:28 | MT | i need to get sieve working on my mail server :/ |
00:02:50 | MT | its too hard being 56k again :/ |
00:02:55 | tracktheripper | lol |
00:02:58 | tracktheripper | be back soon |
00:04:57 | Bagder | night |
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00:17:49 | adi|work | yeah? |
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00:28:31 | elinenbe | I love the Doom port −− I already passed the first level! |
00:28:33 | elinenbe | woo hoo! |
00:28:38 | adi|work | LOL |
00:31:34 | elinenbe | man −− the second level is hard. |
00:31:46 | elinenbe | I can't believe this is why there were no commits in the past week. |
00:31:50 | adi|work | thats only because there are that many more monsters.. |
00:31:51 | adi|work | nods |
00:32:00 | elinenbe | they were working on the best program EVER! |
00:34:38 | MT | eh? |
00:34:46 | MT | it really was a doom port? |
00:34:49 | adi|work | nods |
00:34:52 | adi|work | go download it... |
00:35:07 | MT | nah, bedtime for me |
00:35:17 | MT | frustrated and annoyed at cyrus atm :) |
00:36:22 | MT | i compile -games anyway |
00:36:23 | MT | heh |
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00:49:22 | adam | wow. |
00:49:24 | * | adam returns |
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04:13:38 | RedLeg | Anybody Awake? |
04:16:11 | RedLeg | I'm having an apparent hardware problem with my recorder20 |
04:16:19 | RedLeg | Can anyone assist? |
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06:05:20 | adam | woo |
06:07:55 | adam | hmm |
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06:07:59 | adam | the U must be sucking in the bandwidth department |
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06:56:48 | adam | heh |
06:58:35 | * | adam hoses with cygwin |
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07:53:14 | adam | hey |
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08:04:01 | Bagder | mornings |
08:15:37 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
08:15:51 | Topic | "Doom for Archos on http://rockbox.haxx.se/doom/" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
08:16:04 | adi|home | heheh |
08:16:07 | Mode | "#rockbox +o logbot " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
08:16:11 | Mode | "#rockbox -o Bagder " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) |
08:16:17 | Bagder | :-) |
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08:22:56 | adam | heh |
08:23:39 | Bagder | I'm glad to see so many downloads |
08:26:26 | adam | they will never suspect a thing |
08:26:32 | adam | I was just impressed by the filesize... :p |
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08:31:08 | PsycoXul | blah :p |
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08:31:29 | PsycoXul | blah :p |
08:32:00 | adam | my roommate is snoring again |
08:32:06 | PsycoXul | er wtf.. heh |
08:32:15 | * | adam needs some cone of silence like old Get Smart eps |
08:36:31 | adam | adam/rei.jpg">http://rei.damnsw.net/~adam/rei.jpg |
08:36:35 | adam | This is my life, in a nutshell |
08:37:00 | adam | adam/i_get_this_alot.jpg">http://rei.damnsw.net/~adam/i_get_this_alot.jpg |
08:38:35 | * | adam notes he wishes the archos default firmware would let him load other ones :p |
08:38:43 | adam | then I could just switch between them |
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08:39:46 | Bagder | morning mats |
08:39:50 | adam | on another note |
08:39:51 | adam | hey mats |
08:39:58 | * | adam will finally have his USB2 card :P |
08:40:06 | matsl | hi bag |
08:40:11 | matsl | hi adam |
08:40:13 | Bagder | usb2 is neat |
08:40:28 | adam | I don't know what kind of speed increases to expect |
08:40:31 | adam | they said something like 40x |
08:40:37 | adam | so I'll automagically refigure that |
08:40:42 | adam | to two or three times faster ;p |
08:41:00 | Bagder | you'll notice quite a diff at least, I promise |
08:41:09 | adam | yeah |
08:41:23 | adam | heh |
08:41:37 | adam | I seriously see no reason why people, outside of encoding digital video, are buying high mhz machines |
08:41:49 | adam | my buddy has a dual athlon system |
08:41:52 | adam | asides from compiling kernels |
08:41:55 | adam | it's almost always idle |
08:41:57 | Bagder | they play games! ;-) |
08:42:03 | adam | yeah |
08:42:04 | adam | except |
08:42:08 | Bagder | oh, and run rc5-72 clients! |
08:42:09 | adam | what games require that much cpu overhead? |
08:42:15 | adam | uh |
08:42:15 | Bagder | true |
08:42:19 | adam | if that doesn't make any money |
08:42:21 | Bagder | they mostly require graphics |
08:42:22 | adam | I see no point to doing it |
08:42:37 | adam | yeah, and graphics are handled by my little Radeon 9000 :P |
08:42:52 | adam | the poor mans Radeon |
08:43:18 | adam | well, I've got pointless TV-out functions in duplex |
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08:43:33 | adam | the dxr3 card (works in linux, yay), and the Radeon itself |
08:43:39 | dwihno | Hello! :D |
08:43:42 | adam | hey |
08:43:47 | Bagder | hi dwihno |
08:44:13 | dwihno | I just love tuesdays |
08:44:21 | dwihno | (= the monday is history!) :) |
08:44:26 | * | adam has class in 7 hours |
08:45:02 | adam | How did they extract such a large increase in performance with USB2? |
08:45:05 | dwihno | Where's Zagor? He is still asleep? :) |
08:45:31 | dwihno | adam: they fitted more midgets in the circuits :) |
08:45:31 | adam | just using higher throughput all across the board? |
08:45:42 | Bagder | no idea |
08:46:01 | * | adam is eager to be able to copy files, to his archos. |
08:46:01 | adam | :P |
08:46:12 | adam | rather than wait 80 minutes for 4 gigs to fly across |
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08:48:15 | dwihno | adam: well, USB2 is really kickass :) |
08:48:22 | adam | yeah |
08:48:23 | adam | I hope so |
08:48:53 | adam | Linux support EHCI yet? |
08:49:08 | Bagder | sure |
08:49:14 | adam | good. |
08:49:31 | adam | I'm discouraged by recent debian images |
08:49:38 | Bagder | since 2.4.19, and before that with patches |
08:49:49 | adam | the bootfloppy kernel seems to hang with my hard drive |
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08:49:59 | adam | but hey |
08:50:05 | adam | Mandrake gets around that |
08:50:11 | adam | so it's not a problem with the drive per se |
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08:51:36 | dwihno | USB2 = fast, yumyum |
08:51:44 | dwihno | I never realized I needed it before I bought it. |
08:51:49 | adam | you should be a marketer |
08:51:59 | dwihno | I actually had 3 USB2 devices before I got my USB2 card :) |
08:52:05 | adam | cameras? |
08:52:18 | * | adam has his goofy new recorder FM |
08:52:29 | adam | I prefer the LiIon to the NiMH for only one reason |
08:52:30 | adam | weight |
08:52:38 | dwihno | Not really. My archos, an external closure for my 3.5" disk and an external 2.5" enclosure for the "old" archos disk :) |
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08:52:53 | adam | yeah |
08:53:05 | adam | I was looking at enclosures myself |
08:53:08 | adam | that's a good idea |
08:53:12 | adam | if I can't sell my old studio 20 |
08:53:18 | adam | I'll just take the drive out :p |
08:53:24 | dwihno | I only got a laptop, so having extra disks is a bit jobbish ;) |
08:54:35 | adam | yeah |
08:54:37 | adam | that's a good idea |
08:54:49 | adam | just need to find some more cash ;P |
08:56:55 | dwihno | I got a new set of contact lenses the other day |
08:57:07 | dwihno | hello vision, goodbye money :( |
08:57:13 | adam | heh |
08:57:22 | adam | how much will a decent enclosure cost, for 9.5mm? |
08:57:53 | dwihno | I'll show you what I got. W8 a sec. |
08:58:27 | dwihno | http://www.emagictech.com.tw/fd6252-1.htm |
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08:59:01 | dwihno | 870e |
08:59:12 | adam | what'd it cost? |
08:59:17 | adam | http://fwdepot.com/thestore/product_info.php?products_id=278 |
08:59:21 | adam | this one looks decent |
08:59:59 | adam | I like the plug and play aspect |
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09:04:02 | adam | heh |
09:04:11 | adam | USB1 for all my joysticks, mice, keyboards, and crap :P |
09:04:15 | adam | since I already have the hub and all |
09:04:22 | adam | I can use 2 for mad storage |
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09:06:46 | dwihno | :) |
09:06:50 | dwihno | Mad storage :D |
09:07:03 | adam | yeah |
09:07:07 | dwihno | I got the munchies for another USB2-disk |
09:07:10 | adam | if I pickup a laptop in the near future |
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09:07:20 | dwihno | The best part is the compatibility with the old interface. |
09:07:30 | adam | yeah |
09:07:38 | adam | and it's common on new boxes |
09:07:42 | adam | not hard to add to old |
09:07:46 | adam | like in my case :p |
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09:07:49 | adam | my 800mhz PIII |
09:07:51 | adam | wooo :p |
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09:08:19 | adam | very rarely do I run into a task so daunting it requires *more* |
09:08:44 | adam | just spending cash on important stuff like hard drives, and food |
09:09:27 | dwihno | :D |
09:09:40 | adam | hmm |
09:09:51 | adam | wow, laptops with 3 ghz processors |
09:09:55 | adam | I can see it now |
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09:10:00 | adam | a bright red spot near the center |
09:10:06 | adam | like ET, except it can cause minor burns |
09:10:09 | dwihno | Zagor: Hello! Do I got news for you! :) The build seems a bit more solid. I still encountered the no sound until next disk read issue, but it didn't hang. |
09:10:22 | Zagor | goodie |
09:10:29 | Bagder | big step forward |
09:10:35 | adam | no sound until next disk read issue |
09:10:38 | adam | I've ran into that with the FM |
09:10:46 | Zagor | please take note about the no sound issue. there is no "next disk read". it's something else. |
09:10:48 | adam | Bagder - you sound like a Chinese communist with that ;p |
09:11:01 | * | adam puts thousands of peasants to work in a commune |
09:11:03 | Bagder | damn, I blew my cover |
09:11:06 | dwihno | Zagor: it stays silent until next disk read! :) |
09:11:42 | adam | how much of Intel's new "CENTRINO" hype actually reflect on reality? |
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09:13:23 | Zagor | dwihno: of course it does. but when does the next read happen, and why? |
09:13:55 | adam | Zagor: changing songs? |
09:13:57 | Bagder | viewing the debug mpeg thread screen while silent could be interesting |
09:14:15 | Zagor | yes |
09:14:34 | adam | arg, what mAh are the LiIon batteries in the FM recorder, per default? |
09:14:52 | dwihno | Zagor: I'll try to check that out today, and give you juicy details :) |
09:15:06 | Zagor | dwihno: good |
09:15:53 | dwihno | Zagor: Just out of curiosity, what is changed in your test build? |
09:16:47 | Zagor | dwihno: a couple of things. I added a 400ns delay between two register accesses, and fixed a possible spindowm timeout issue |
09:18:13 | dwihno | Zagor: The delay is a part of the ATA specs? |
09:18:18 | Zagor | yes |
09:19:00 | dwihno | Perhaps you should check in the changes, allowing more people to test it. |
09:19:11 | dwihno | heh |
09:19:15 | dwihno | You're way ahead of me :) |
09:20:45 | Zagor | :-) |
09:24:30 | dwihno | Should 250 gig be "enough for everyone"? |
09:24:41 | adam | dwihno - no |
09:24:53 | adam | ;p |
09:25:00 | Bagder | not for the video-recording inclined people ;-) |
09:25:15 | adam | or those with no concept of 'archiving' |
09:26:02 | * | adam is fine with a collection of drives ranging from 80 to 30 :p |
09:26:22 | adam | I suppose the archos fm is a decent 20 gig, since it actually has throughput |
09:26:36 | adam | I feel sorry for my friend who used a USB 1.1 drive for years :P |
09:27:37 | adam | why in god's name are laptops still including diskette drives |
09:27:54 | adam | who, other than people who live in 1987 still use the goddamn things |
09:28:11 | Bagder | when the network breaks down ;-) |
09:29:00 | adam | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2826587.stm |
09:29:08 | dwihno | :) |
09:29:11 | adam | Bagder - I use guided wires |
09:29:13 | adam | they are unstoppable |
09:29:18 | adam | except by wire cutters |
09:29:22 | dwihno | adam: I like floppies :) |
09:29:25 | adam | yes |
09:29:30 | dwihno | My notebook has everything |
09:29:32 | dwihno | (except DVD) |
09:29:35 | adam | when you need to pull off some Bourne Identity styled ninja work |
09:29:37 | adam | dude |
09:29:42 | adam | "except DVD" |
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09:29:54 | dwihno | Who needs DVD? :) |
09:30:08 | adam | I get dvd-rws from people |
09:30:16 | adam | so I do :p |
09:30:23 | dwihno | Hah |
09:30:23 | adam | I don't get floppies. |
09:30:33 | dwihno | Floppies rule! |
09:30:35 | adam | but yeah, I can see where you'd need one |
09:30:43 | adam | yes, they've lingered on |
09:30:50 | adam | but they're overpriced, and totally pointless |
09:30:58 | dwihno | Yeah. |
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09:31:08 | dwihno | At least, CD's are better. |
09:31:10 | adam | it's just a matter of user behavior |
09:31:19 | adam | CDs, I do agree, are superior, in a few ways |
09:31:29 | * | adam just uses network :p |
09:31:38 | dwihno | Let's say you don't have a network :) |
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09:32:29 | quelsaruk | Bagder: doom is not a joke?? |
09:32:43 | adam | heh |
09:32:47 | Bagder | why would it be a joke? |
09:32:52 | adam | no, it's great |
09:33:00 | adam | I just find the controls a bit difficult to get used to |
09:33:15 | quelsaruk | maybe 'cause you're swedish and had some contact with a crazy spanish guy?? |
09:33:29 | dwihno | quel! :D |
09:33:34 | Bagder | good point! |
09:33:46 | quelsaruk | morning dwihno! |
09:33:52 | dwihno | Bagder: You rule so badly! :D |
09:34:13 | * | Bagder blushes |
09:34:17 | quelsaruk | i'm going to test it right now then!! |
09:34:58 | Zagor | "Man, I got to the third level before I figured it out..." :-) |
09:34:58 | * | adam wants a desktop replacement notebook... |
09:35:32 | dwihno | Any of you guys know the temperature diff between 5400 and 7200 rpm drives? |
09:35:46 | Zagor | 12.2 degrees |
09:35:51 | quelsaruk | hot and hoter?? |
09:35:55 | quelsaruk | hotter |
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09:37:03 | adam | mmm |
09:37:10 | adam | they have the machine for me |
09:37:51 | adam | heavy as hell, massive screen, dvd-rw, and an outdated ATI graphics card |
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09:39:46 | Bagder | btw, sf.net is screwed up atm in the member admin department |
09:39:58 | Zagor | ok |
09:40:01 | Bagder | we can't add members atm |
09:40:12 | Bagder | I've filed a bug report |
09:40:43 | Bagder | it seems to concern the whole site as I have very simimlar problems in curl too |
09:41:51 | adam | well |
09:41:55 | adam | goodnight everyone |
09:42:02 | adam | I've sworn off caffeine forever |
09:42:09 | adam | so I'll have to do without that in the morning |
09:42:11 | adam | that requires sleep |
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09:55:56 | Zagor | ken0 is a strange fellow. has anyone ever actually seen him online? |
09:56:04 | dwihno | hm |
09:56:07 | dwihno | secret spy from archos? |
09:56:20 | Zagor | haha |
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10:00:16 | dwihno | keno got you! :) |
10:00:22 | dwihno | Kung keno! Lett å vinne |
10:02:50 | thu | darn |
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10:02:59 | thu | did anybody here have problems with umounting an archos? |
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10:03:11 | thu | umounts hangs and there's no way to kill it |
10:03:46 | Bagder | nope |
10:04:09 | Zagor | thu: what did you do before unmounting? |
10:05:11 | thu | Zagor: nothing much.. mount it and copy rockbox |
10:05:16 | thu | it hangs every time I try to umount |
10:05:38 | thu | and btw rockbox has a really dark screen on my fm juke |
10:05:47 | thu | with weird vertical lines |
10:05:49 | Bagder | change contrast |
10:05:53 | thu | yeah |
10:05:57 | thu | first i need to charge my batt |
10:06:07 | thu | anyway.. about my umount problem |
10:06:18 | thu | is there any way to kill the process if it's gone crazy? |
10:06:27 | Zagor | thu: are you using usb1 or usb2 ? |
10:06:45 | thu | a few mins ago my usb2 seemed dead |
10:06:48 | thu | so I moved it on usb1 |
10:06:56 | Zagor | ok. how long has it been hung? |
10:07:01 | thu | a few mins |
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10:07:19 | Zagor | that's normal for a 20gig disk over usb1 |
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10:07:56 | Zagor | it needs to read the entire FAT to find a free spot for the new file. that takes a while on the slow usb1 link. |
10:08:26 | Zagor | I have meant to write a fix for that, but haven't done it yet. |
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10:09:50 | thu | uhm.. what happens if I disconnected it? :)=) |
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10:11:51 | Zagor | the file system could be corrupted, or simply the new file was never copied |
10:12:05 | thu | rockbox seems to be on |
10:12:12 | thu | after I pulled it off the cable |
10:12:19 | Zagor | ok. dosfsck is advisable. although that will of course take even more time... |
10:12:23 | thu | but umount is still 'running' |
10:12:27 | thu | what about killing umount? |
10:12:36 | Zagor | did you run kill on anything? |
10:12:39 | Bagder | that request for an "ASCII Playable Rockbox In Line For Our Own Loser units" was kind of amusing |
10:12:43 | thu | I tried to kill it |
10:12:56 | thu | no result |
10:13:29 | thu | btw what should one know to be able to work on something like rockbox? |
10:13:50 | Zagor | C programming :-) |
10:14:02 | adi|home | thu or how to read... |
10:14:03 | Bagder | how to sacrifise goats at midnight! |
10:14:04 | adi|home | reading is good... |
10:14:09 | adi|home | because you can learn the rest... |
10:14:23 | adi|home | oh.. and umm 'mail adi 100$' |
10:14:24 | thu | well other than the language itself |
10:14:26 | adi|home | thats good too |
10:14:35 | thu | what libs/concepts/other info? |
10:14:40 | adi|home | thu.. you really wanna help out? |
10:14:41 | thu | just wondering |
10:14:49 | thu | adi|home: I love my archos :) |
10:14:58 | adi|home | the docs _really_ need updating |
10:15:00 | thu | and I think rockbox is really cool |
10:15:35 | adi|home | see thats the diff.. i _know_ it is :) |
10:15:59 | thu | hehe |
10:16:09 | Zagor | thu: we don't use other libs. rockbox is self-contained. embedded programming in general is good. |
10:16:13 | thu | and I know my umount is frozen :\ |
10:16:33 | thu | Zagor: that's what I like about embedded programming.. once you make it work it just works |
10:16:48 | thu | Zagor: no crazy deps or anything |
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10:21:11 | Bagder | ken0 clones? ;-) |
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10:25:16 | langhaarrocker | ken0 looks like a script to me |
10:25:47 | adi|home | shall we clean him up or let him be? |
10:26:01 | Bagder | he seems harmless to me |
10:26:04 | adi|home | nods |
10:26:05 | adi|home | k |
10:26:06 | adi|home | :) |
10:26:16 | adi|home | but i was refering to you bagder :) |
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10:26:18 | adi|home | lol |
10:26:23 | * | Bagder runs! |
10:26:39 | adi|home | sure.. but youll never get elected |
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10:27:03 | Bagder | not even in Florida? ;-) |
10:27:04 | adi|home | so.. i had a thought today. |
10:27:06 | adi|home | it hurt |
10:27:11 | adi|home | lol@florida |
10:27:27 | * | thu tries out doom |
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10:28:03 | Bagder | after having run doom on your Archos, you're a better person! |
10:28:42 | Bagder | too bad that second screenshot got a little blurry... |
10:28:58 | adi|home | :) |
10:29:26 | Schnueff | heh |
10:31:17 | adi|home | im surprise goodle inst doing anything for april fools. |
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10:33:46 | Bagder | ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3514.txt |
10:34:03 | Bagder | "the Evil Bit" is new in the IPv4 header ;-) |
10:34:03 | adi|home | yeah.. i saw it :) |
10:35:37 | adi|home | hehe |
10:35:59 | adi|home | i thought the carrier pigeon ip was more creative last year :) |
10:36:26 | Bagder | that's older than that |
10:36:39 | Bagder | they only implemented it last year ;-) |
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11:49:27 | tracktheripper | morning! |
11:50:00 | langhaarrocker | moin |
11:50:32 | tracktheripper | Just got one bug to report |
11:50:34 | tracktheripper | be back in a min |
11:55:20 | tracktheripper | done :-) |
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13:49:35 | Bagder | ken0 has gone completely nuts |
13:50:30 | langhaarrocker | I think he has gone under score :) |
13:50:41 | Bagder | yeah |
13:53:52 | langhaarrocker | What a shame! Someone photographped me while landing in a corn field and published it! |
13:53:52 | langhaarrocker | http://www.rheinlandflieger.dnsalias.com/Fotoalben/20020914_Melbecke/20020914-154538.jpg |
13:54:59 | Bagder | :-) |
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13:55:38 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: have you tried the new disk code lately? |
13:55:46 | langhaarrocker | not yet |
13:55:52 | * | langhaarrocker downloading |
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14:00:13 | langhaarrocker | I seem to have a hd problem. The thing doesn't boot rockbox. |
14:02:04 | Zagor | uh, bad |
14:02:55 | langhaarrocker | This morning I accitently tried to boot on flat batteries. I hope that didn't hurt. |
14:04:20 | * | langhaarrocker backs up data |
14:17:05 | Bagder | "I hope there will be more levels in time, I finished the existing ones in 2 hours..." |
14:17:15 | Bagder | (comment on funmp3players) |
14:17:23 | Zagor | hehe |
14:18:04 | langhaarrocker | Mark the author. In the near future he'll be complaining that his buttons are broken. |
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14:18:12 | Acathla_ | hi |
14:18:18 | langhaarrocker | lo |
14:18:18 | Bagder | 'lo |
14:18:27 | * | langhaarrocker was faster :) |
14:18:38 | Acathla_ | :) |
14:19:17 | Bagder | hey its IRC, in my end my line came first! ;-) |
14:19:45 | langhaarrocker | Do you have a lifo irc client? |
14:20:04 | Acathla_ | i've got a "not_recharging_anymore_archos_player", and i don't think i'm the first... |
14:20:06 | Bagder | I'm sorry, you don't make any sense when you talk backwards |
14:20:08 | Bagder | :-P |
14:20:49 | Bagder | Acathla_: 1) return it on your warranty 2) buy an external charger |
14:21:02 | Acathla_ | not underwarranty |
14:21:18 | langhaarrocker | 3) maybe your batteries are old, flat and dead -> replace the batteries? |
14:21:19 | Acathla_ | and i'de prefer to repair it |
14:21:56 | Acathla_ | i've only found the recorder electrical schematic, but it's seems similar... |
14:22:07 | langhaarrocker | not concerning the charging |
14:22:17 | * | Bagder returns later |
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14:22:34 | Acathla_ | at least near the first DC-DC chip |
14:22:36 | langhaarrocker | the player has a designated charging circuit while the charging algorithm of the recorder is done in software. |
14:23:57 | Acathla_ | noone has draw the schematics for the player ? |
14:24:55 | langhaarrocker | Pah. As a recorder owner I never bothered with players. :) |
14:25:09 | Acathla_ | :) |
14:26:09 | Acathla_ | i'll buy a MC34063 and change it, it seems to be in cause |
14:26:42 | * | langhaarrocker is puzzled that scandisk doesn't find any errors. |
14:30:20 | quel|out | langhaarrocker: i told you.. use the goats.... |
14:30:21 | quel|out | ;) |
14:30:48 | * | langhaarrocker strangulates the white plastic goat. |
14:32:07 | langhaarrocker | seems to work. I just entered red led death. |
14:36:04 | quel|out | great! |
14:36:17 | quel|out | next time, try black goat |
14:36:39 | quel|out | the dark side of the source is stronger ;) |
14:36:43 | langhaarrocker | yea |
14:37:03 | quel|out | lunch time |
14:37:13 | quel|out | cu later langhaarrocker! |
14:37:19 | langhaarrocker | cu |
14:37:39 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: some time after red led death my jukebox returns to the browser with led off. When I try to start another track it enters red led death right away. |
14:38:15 | langhaarrocker | ui seems to be frozen. I can't enter the menu. |
14:38:39 | langhaarrocker | (But light will turn on on button press) |
14:39:18 | Zagor | langhaarrocker: so, basically, no difference? |
14:39:28 | langhaarrocker | no. not really |
14:39:34 | Zagor | :-( |
14:44:24 | langhaarrocker | But I think that there are variants of red led death. Now I entered a variant where the led flashes off occasionally. The progress bar moves but no sound. |
14:44:42 | Zagor | flashes off? |
14:45:14 | langhaarrocker | ok. Now it stopped moving, no more flashing off. |
14:45:14 | langhaarrocker | flash off = led is on and turns off for a fraction of a second. |
14:45:50 | Zagor | that indicates the mpeg thread is trying to read stuff, but fails |
14:47:11 | langhaarrocker | So while flashing of the controler seems to receive ata commands? But why does it freeze then? I wasn't shaking the thing any more then. |
14:49:00 | * | langhaarrocker 's recorder has a concussion |
14:49:16 | Zagor | I don't know |
14:52:29 | langhaarrocker | What about this theory: The drive cached some data which the mpeg thread could read out -> busy led. But when it ran out of data the drive didn't know where I shook its heads to. Searching for its heads the drive was so busy that the operations on the cache was slowed down so that it took serveral seconds so that I could notice the flashing? |
14:52:29 | langhaarrocker | Sounds like a stupid explanation |
14:54:14 | langhaarrocker | Nah, the more I think about it the less I believe it. |
14:55:08 | Zagor | "searching for its heads" is not something disks normally do, afaik :-) |
14:56:08 | langhaarrocker | it was supposed to be a colorful description of finding the appropriate sector on the disk. |
14:59:24 | Zagor | how long would you say each "off" flash is? |
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15:00:02 | langhaarrocker | just so long that is was noticable. Maybe 1/10 s. |
15:00:43 | langhaarrocker | It occured once every three seconds, so round about |
15:03:19 | langhaarrocker | during that phase I occasionally heared mechanical noises from the disk. Maybe it tried to sort out it's physical guts. |
15:03:38 | Zagor | strange |
15:04:31 | langhaarrocker | But I can't reproduce that again. Now I have the red lead death 'as usual' |
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15:11:45 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: can't you implement a rpc ata interface? Then I could lend you my drive remote. :) |
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15:13:30 | Zagor | hehe |
15:14:03 | langhaarrocker | I wonder how many kens will appear. |
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15:41:05 | Bagder | rehi |
15:41:25 | Bagder | Dario's reply on the list sure made me laugh |
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15:46:59 | Nomad__ | morn |
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15:47:24 | Bagder | hi |
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15:47:45 | Nomad__ | Zagor_: the .mod you gave me yesterday shut off on the way home |
15:47:51 | Nomad__ | today's bleeding edge though worked great |
15:48:21 | Zagor_ | ok |
15:48:30 | Nomad__ | ~/remlog |
15:48:35 | Zagor_ | so we've improved a bit. but langhaarrocker still gets the led dead |
15:48:36 | langhaarrocker | Zagor: don't trust him. It's first of April. :) |
15:48:41 | Zagor_ | :) |
15:48:48 | Nomad__ | on the way home yesterday ti kinda hung like normal about 75mph |
15:48:52 | Nomad__ | came back once |
15:48:52 | | Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
15:49:02 | Nomad__ | no, I've had my joke for the day and it wasn't a good one |
15:49:41 | Nomad__ | A hardcore Security guy did the ole "ok, I'm fed up with how much pos windows guys make when I have to fight tooth and nail for a paycheck, I'm converting and making hte cach I deserve" type post |
15:49:46 | Nomad__ | wasn't funny |
15:49:49 | Nomad__ | wasn't funny at all... |
15:50:25 | Nomad__ | anyway when I hit 75 it hung up, a few mins later it kinda clicked like a skipping CD then went silent again for a while then it shut off |
15:50:48 | Nomad__ | this morning it gave me it's nice quiet routine when I hit 75'ish then when I slowed down with traffic it kicked back in |
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15:51:05 | Nomad__ | got back up to speed and it went quiet again. slowed down and it picked up again |
15:51:07 | Nomad__ | was great |
15:53:03 | Zagor | do you have the archos in a pocket or inside your jacket? |
15:53:40 | Nomad__ | it's in a doulbe layed wrap of motherboard packing foam inside my pocket of my heavy leather jacket |
15:53:53 | Nomad__ | today it was on an inside check pocket, yesterday outside hip height |
15:54:42 | Nomad__ | I updated to the latest bleeding edge about 1.5hrs ago before heading in today |
15:58:07 | Nomad__ | just a thought |
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15:58:32 | Nomad__ | Could you have a "counter" that tracks the total # of consecutive failed read attempts (skips) |
15:58:37 | Zagor | sure |
15:58:44 | Nomad__ | if it reaches X+1 skips drop the read speed? |
15:59:00 | Nomad__ | kinda like my CDR slows when ripping from a scrathced CD |
15:59:16 | Nomad__ | see where I'm going? |
15:59:21 | Zagor | we don't have different speeds. the disk spins by itself. |
15:59:36 | Nomad__ | ok, didn't know if it was possible to slow it down or change it's mode |
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16:00:03 | Zagor | afaik it isn't |
16:00:09 | Nomad__ | would be great for situations where the drive is vibrating or constant bumping such as my motorcycle |
16:00:13 | Zagor | yes |
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16:01:44 | Zagor | he was getting annoying |
16:02:05 | * | Bagder agrees |
16:03:06 | langhaarrocker | which one of him? :) |
16:03:37 | * | Bagder points to the annoying one. "that one" |
16:03:49 | Zagor | the left one |
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16:05:44 | langhaarrocker | lol |
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16:05:51 | langhaarrocker | ken0 for zombie! |
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16:23:38 | quel|out | oh my god! |
16:23:45 | quel|out | you're really crazy! |
16:23:50 | quel|out | i was wrong |
16:24:16 | quel|out | spanish are normal compared with all of you |
16:24:29 | * | Bagder looks at quel|out |
16:24:31 | langhaarrocker | is he (quel) talking with logbot? |
16:25:36 | quel|out | ummmm |
16:25:39 | | Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) |
16:25:53 | quelsaruk | maybe? |
16:26:00 | quelsaruk | am i crazy if i say yes?? |
16:26:54 | langhaarrocker | Quelsaruk: have you tried talking to trees lately? Less risky because they usually can't kick you. |
16:27:29 | quelsaruk | i usually talk with goats, but nowadays they are afraid of me, and i dunno why. :( |
16:27:48 | quelsaruk | i'll try talking to trees, or sea waves ;) |
16:29:16 | quelsaruk | i had to explain some fortran programs... that was a hard work ;) |
16:29:45 | langhaarrocker | Ah. Let me guess: you've been teaching again. |
16:30:09 | quelsaruk | private teaching this time :) |
16:30:47 | quelsaruk | my speciality is steel, but fortran is easy enought to explain it and earn some money :P |
16:33:37 | | Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) |
16:34:36 | quelsaruk | btw, do all of you have 1st April?? |
16:34:48 | quelsaruk | here in spain we have 28th December |
16:35:17 | langhaarrocker | good joke! It's nearly recursive. :) |
16:35:49 | | Part Zagor |
16:35:54 | quelsaruk | langhaarrocker: don't understand you.. i only have 2 neurons :( |
16:36:21 | | Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) |
16:44:44 | | Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
16:53:30 | | Join i_am_pi [0] (bogusident@pihost.us) |
16:54:07 | i_am_pi | hello |
16:55:07 | quelsaruk | hi |
16:59:02 | i_am_pi | yesterday i was asking where the charging regulator was but i had to leave |
16:59:47 | quelsaruk | charging regulator?? |
17:00 |
17:00:14 | i_am_pi | Zagor mentioned i might try replacing it.. |
17:01:22 | quelsaruk | umm |
17:01:35 | quelsaruk | Zagor_: someone's looking for you ;) |
17:02:25 | Nomad__ | nice slow day |
17:02:27 | i_am_pi | see, my jukebox died.. says "hd error" which meant to me "dead batteries", but the charger doesn't power up anything :-| |
17:02:48 | i_am_pi | not even the green light or the stock firmware saying "Charging battery" |
17:03:44 | quelsaruk | try to change the batts... or the charger |
17:03:45 | quelsaruk | :) |
17:03:59 | i_am_pi | replaced the charger, i'm replacing the batteries today after screwl |
17:04:24 | quelsaruk | good luck |
17:04:29 | i_am_pi | thx. |
17:04:39 | i_am_pi | i did replace the hard drive earlier |
17:04:50 | i_am_pi | the stock 20 gigger had no usable sectors :-| |
17:05:04 | quelsaruk | :( |
17:05:08 | i_am_pi | but this was months before |
17:05:21 | i_am_pi | got a 40 gigger from our local computer store for $200 :) |
17:05:33 | i_am_pi | and i had gotten the jukebox for free in the first place. |
17:07:20 | quelsaruk | you're lucky then :) |
17:22:42 | Acathla_ | i've "found" a 20gig :) |
17:22:43 | | Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
17:23:19 | LinusN | who banned my script? :-) |
17:24:50 | OnoSendai | this it? * logbot kicked ken0 from channel #rockbox : Stop your script |
17:24:56 | LinusN | :-) |
17:25:05 | * | LinusN is just kidding |
17:25:08 | quelsaruk | :P |
17:25:14 | OnoSendai | : ) |
17:25:37 | quelsaruk | LinusN: good evening-afternoon-or whatever is said now |
17:25:50 | LinusN | same to you |
17:26:47 | quelsaruk | btw, any idea of when will 2.0 be released?? i know that soon... but, any possible date?? |
17:27:02 | LinusN | i have no idea |
17:27:10 | LinusN | we want to kill the red led bug |
17:27:21 | LinusN | and i still have some recording stuff left |
17:27:43 | OnoSendai | i have yet to test the recording for myself... |
17:28:00 | OnoSendai | are the recording bugs posted on the site? |
17:28:12 | LinusN | what bugs? |
17:28:23 | OnoSendai | don't know.. you said there were some issues yet with recording.. |
17:28:35 | OnoSendai | <LinusN> and i still have some recording stuff left |
17:28:36 | LinusN | yes, i have work to do (adding features) |
17:28:42 | OnoSendai | ahh... |
17:29:21 | LinusN | it's mainly about Xing headers, ID3 info and stuff |
17:29:35 | OnoSendai | cool... i'm loving all you guys.. i've already got 3 friends addicted to the jukebox.. now i'm converting them to rockbox |
17:29:50 | LinusN | nice |
17:29:56 | adam | uh |
17:30:31 | adam | the Studio is sad. The Recorder however, is > * |
17:33:34 | quelsaruk | LinusN: what is that red led bug?? |
17:33:46 | quelsaruk | the fade dug? or which one? |
17:33:51 | quelsaruk | *bug |
17:34:43 | LinusN | the red led death is an ATA driver bug, when it fails to recover from disk errors |
17:34:47 | LinusN | like when you shake the jukebox |
17:34:52 | quelsaruk | ahhh |
17:35:13 | quelsaruk | normally i use goat blood to repair that kind of errors ;) |
17:35:25 | LinusN | and garlic |
17:35:36 | quelsaruk | never tested garlic, i have to try ;) |
17:35:55 | quelsaruk | well, there's also a fade bug. |
17:35:57 | i_am_pi | sharp pointed stick doused in kerosine, lit on fire... |
17:36:01 | i_am_pi | works wonders. |
17:36:02 | i_am_pi | brb |
17:36:22 | LinusN | quelsaruk: i know about the fade bug |
17:36:28 | quelsaruk | :) |
17:36:31 | quelsaruk | ok |
17:36:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
17:38:37 | | Part Zagor_ |
17:39:58 | i_am_pi | Back |
17:40:13 | i_am_pi | yeah, i've seen the red led death, when the batteries lose charge |
17:42:35 | i_am_pi | then teh drive makes "click click" noises.. |
17:42:54 | adam | I've seen that too |
17:46:26 | OnoSendai | um... E is 1.0 now : ) http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/news.html |
17:46:53 | quelsaruk | another 1st april ? |
17:46:54 | quelsaruk | ;) |
17:47:15 | OnoSendai | : ) |
17:51:16 | Nomad__ | cpan.org is horked also |
17:54:19 | | Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) |
17:54:23 | quel|out | bbl |
17:54:25 | quel|out | cu |
17:54:45 | Acathla_ | http://rockbox.haxx.se/doom/ <- 1st april too ? |
17:55:34 | quel|out | Acathla_: how can you say that!!! |
17:55:55 | quel|out | do you think Bagder could do that?? |
17:56:06 | quel|out | he's a serious man |
17:56:07 | quel|out | ;) |
17:57:54 | Acathla_ | hum... |
17:59:05 | | Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") |
17:59:58 | * | Acathla_ go home |
18:00 |
18:00:00 | Acathla_ | bye |
18:00:07 | | Quit Acathla_ ("leaving") |
18:02:53 | | Join _adam [0] (jankey@x84-207-243-dhcp.reshalls.umn.edu) |
18:03:49 | _adam | heh |
18:03:57 | * | _adam notes some software should be open sourced :P |
18:04:07 | _adam | like sftp gui frontends that use Putty as a backend anyways |
18:04:15 | _adam | *especially* when they suck |
18:04:17 | _adam | bad :p |
18:04:39 | | Quit adam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
18:04:45 | | Nick _adam is now known as adam (jankey@x84-207-243-dhcp.reshalls.umn.edu) |
18:09:05 | i_am_pi | putty r0x0rs :) |
18:09:26 | i_am_pi | but Mac OS X's terminal.app r0x0rs more |
18:09:46 | i_am_pi | GLTerm r0x0rs even even more since it is opengl accelerated |
18:10:47 | adam | uh |
18:10:51 | adam | yes |
18:10:57 | adam | because that makes it faster |
18:11:00 | adam | all that compounding |
18:11:01 | adam | :P |
18:11:34 | adam | neither terminal.app nor GLTerm are ssh clients, anyways |
18:13:16 | i_am_pi | but they turn into one with "ssh" :_P |
18:13:32 | adam | yeah |
18:13:35 | i_am_pi | when i'm forced to use windows, I use putty |
18:13:36 | adam | I don't see any advantage to OS X |
18:13:39 | adam | 'forced' |
18:13:47 | i_am_pi | as in when i'm at school |
18:13:47 | adam | heh, OS X doesn't even have a decent peer to peer filesharing program |
18:13:53 | adam | i.e. Kazaa |
18:13:57 | i_am_pi | now, now.. |
18:13:59 | i_am_pi | Carracho :-P |
18:14:02 | i_am_pi | www.carracho.com |
18:14:04 | adam | That's not 'decent' |
18:14:05 | adam | that's shitty. |
18:14:09 | i_am_pi | wtf |
18:14:13 | i_am_pi | carracho rocks! |
18:14:41 | adam | and it's not really peer-to-peer, either way |
18:15:46 | i_am_pi | well i happen to like it. You may (actualy, you seem to) feel differently :) |
18:16:06 | adam | well, it has probably less than 1% of the users that Kazaa does |
18:16:27 | adam | which, unless everyone is running a 200 gig server, is not going to make up for the parity |
18:16:45 | adam | Hotline did it first, either way |
18:16:49 | adam | but yeah, Hotline has it's faults as well |
18:16:54 | adam | as in a totally non-existent company behind it |
18:17:05 | i_am_pi | but there are several servers that have huge caches of quality behind them :) |
18:17:21 | adam | which takes effort |
18:17:23 | i_am_pi | then there (was) mine which had nothign but community, and spottily at that :) |
18:17:25 | adam | I can just leave my searches going all day and all night |
18:17:48 | adam | well, if I use anything, it's Hotline vs Carracho |
18:18:05 | adam | just because HL is quite multiplatform |
18:18:05 | i_am_pi | i've been using that less and less |
18:18:31 | adam | but yeah |
18:18:45 | adam | OS X has pitfalls in games, and various misc software |
18:18:50 | i_am_pi | since i've been getting $ from work ,i've bought more software |
18:18:55 | adam | you gain quality, I suppose, in the lowest common denominator |
18:19:09 | adam | heh |
18:19:19 | adam | I usually try to get mp3s (suprise), or various fansubs |
18:19:22 | | Quit TotMacher () |
18:19:30 | adam | I haven't 'warezed' since my old Mac Quadra 700 :P |
18:19:36 | i_am_pi | lol. mp3s is all kazaa is really good fore |
18:19:41 | i_am_pi | s/fore/for/ |
18:19:42 | adam | that's true |
18:19:43 | adam | and it does that well |
18:19:50 | i_am_pi | very well :) |
18:19:59 | adam | opposed to hotline, or carracho ;p |
18:20:03 | i_am_pi | but the default install has spyware, so i use kazaa lite |
18:20:10 | adam | same. |
18:20:18 | adam | Also gives you 1000 participation... |
18:20:59 | i_am_pi | i had a socks5 proxy on my server installed, but idiots leaked the info and sucked down movies.. Couldn't iptables them out because they were inside the school! |
18:21:15 | adam | uh |
18:21:20 | * | adam doesn't *share* with random idiots |
18:21:27 | i_am_pi | i didn't share with them |
18:21:28 | adam | rarely share at all :P |
18:21:36 | adam | yeah |
18:21:38 | i_am_pi | they got on my computer when i was away |
18:21:40 | adam | but if you're running a server... ;p |
18:21:53 | adam | heh, security is good |
18:21:59 | i_am_pi | win98 at school |
18:22:09 | i_am_pi | if it wre 2k i'd have hit windows-L and locked it when i left. |
18:22:34 | adam | Win98 is the OS that shouldn't be |
18:22:38 | adam | it's obsolete |
18:23:41 | * | adam will either float between Linux, or Windows + Cygwin |
18:24:12 | adam | Windows seems to work fine for most tasks, and my machine is fast enough to make cygwin endurable |
18:24:39 | adam | the thing that pisses me off about windows is the registry |
18:24:57 | adam | or any OS that tries to garble up and hide configuration files |
18:25:34 | i_am_pi | yeah |
18:25:49 | i_am_pi | registry corruption is fun to recover from.. |
18:27:41 | i_am_pi | i worked on this box that had about 50 modems 'installed' |
18:27:46 | adam | heh |
18:27:52 | i_am_pi | "i can't connect to the internet" |
18:28:31 | * | adam must find an OS that isn't hopelessly contrived (XP, OS X), isn't hopelessly mutable (Linux), and actually has hardware support (*BSD) |
18:28:53 | adam | that, or I need to get newer debian test images... |
18:29:10 | adam | Gentoo is fun, except for the whole YOU MUST COMPILE *EVERYTHING* aspect. |
18:29:37 | | Join Neocramencer [0] (Neocramenc@pD953BD52.dip.t-dialin.net) |
18:29:43 | Neocramencer | hi |
18:29:48 | Neocramencer | anybody here? |
18:29:48 | adam | hey |
18:29:53 | Neocramencer | fine.. |
18:30:11 | Neocramencer | i have a damn f*** problem with my jukebox |
18:30:24 | adam | what is it? |
18:30:26 | Neocramencer | everytiem when i connect it to my pc the pc reboots... |
18:30:46 | Neocramencer | its not everytime, yesterday it worked but today.... |
18:30:52 | Neocramencer | whats that issue? |
18:31:11 | i_am_pi | adam: havne't messed with Gentoo |
18:31:25 | adam | Neocramencer - this is a studio? |
18:31:26 | i_am_pi | i like debian with the unstable tree in the sources list |
18:31:47 | Neocramencer | mhh its a jukebox 6000 |
18:31:47 | adam | yes |
18:31:50 | adam | I used to use Sid |
18:32:02 | Neocramencer | want to upgrade the harddrive.. |
18:32:10 | adam | Neocramencer - and the thing starts up and plays music fine? |
18:32:16 | Neocramencer | because of that i need access to it |
18:32:19 | Neocramencer | yes |
18:32:21 | Neocramencer | sure |
18:32:23 | Neocramencer | with rockbox |
18:32:24 | i_am_pi | Neocramencer - hm. haven't seen that particular bug. could be your USB controller on your computer |
18:32:26 | adam | turn the box off |
18:32:35 | adam | plug the usb hard drive in |
18:32:36 | Neocramencer | mhh |
18:32:43 | i_am_pi | i've seen machiens reboot when the modem was used though |
18:32:44 | adam | start it up |
18:32:45 | adam | don't hot plug it |
18:33:02 | adam | heh |
18:33:13 | * | adam wants a Sony VAIO GRV680 |
18:33:19 | Neocramencer | i tryed this too |
18:33:22 | Neocramencer | tried |
18:33:25 | Neocramencer | ;) |
18:33:30 | Neocramencer | me is not good i nenglish |
18:33:30 | adam | 16 inch screen, 60 gig drive, DVD+-RW, and it's heavy as hell |
18:34:03 | i_am_pi | neo: another idea, maybe your power supply is marginal |
18:34:15 | i_am_pi | how many watts is the supply? |
18:34:18 | Neocramencer | you mean the power supply in the pc? |
18:34:27 | Neocramencer | oh its a good levicom 420 watt |
18:34:44 | Neocramencer | board is an epox 8rda+ |
18:34:48 | Neocramencer | nforce2 |
18:35:04 | i_am_pi | well that idea goes out the window.. |
18:35:06 | Neocramencer | mhh i will try a other usb port |
18:35:16 | Neocramencer | wait a sec |
18:37:23 | Neocramencer | mhh lol |
18:37:25 | Neocramencer | it works |
18:37:28 | Neocramencer | this time |
18:37:30 | Neocramencer | :) |
18:37:41 | Neocramencer | but thx for ya help |
18:45:16 | i_am_pi | no problem |
18:45:17 | | Quit Neocramencer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
18:45:22 | i_am_pi | heh. |
18:47:56 | | Join Baz [0] (unknown@modem-920.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
18:48:02 | Baz | hey |
18:48:39 | LinusN | yo |
18:49:19 | Baz | hows u? |
18:49:37 | LinusN | fine i think |
18:49:41 | Baz | lol |
18:49:49 | Baz | well i hate bitchx |
18:49:52 | Baz | mirc here i come :P |
18:49:58 | | Join DJBaz [0] (unknown@modem-920.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
18:50:03 | Baz | heh |
18:50:18 | LinusN | xchat r00ls |
18:50:35 | Baz | i mean bitchx |
18:50:37 | Baz | :P |
18:50:39 | Baz | quit |
18:50:40 | | Quit Baz (Client Quit) |
18:50:45 | | Nick DJBaz is now known as Baz (unknown@modem-920.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
18:50:46 | adam | hmm |
18:50:49 | adam | noise cancelling earbugs |
18:50:51 | adam | ... |
18:50:51 | adam | buds |
18:51:15 | | Nick Baz is now known as DJBaz (unknown@modem-920.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
18:51:26 | adam | might be good for protection against my roommate's snoring |
18:51:35 | DJBaz | lol |
18:54:12 | DJBaz | i liked the doom april fules jple |
18:54:13 | DJBaz | :) |
18:54:22 | DJBaz | *fools |
18:54:22 | adam | jple... |
18:56:06 | DJBaz | rockbox webmaster here yet? |
18:56:07 | DJBaz | :p |
18:56:25 | quel|out | just LinusN |
18:56:45 | DJBaz | k |
18:56:49 | DJBaz | LinusN u there? |
18:57:01 | adam | hmm |
18:57:24 | LinusN | i'm here |
18:57:42 | DJBaz | kk |
18:57:53 | DJBaz | would u guys like a server 2 host a forum on? |
18:58:04 | LinusN | forum? |
18:58:07 | DJBaz | its hosted in a data center... so its fast |
18:58:14 | DJBaz | yeh a forum... 'bulletin board' |
18:58:32 | i_am_pi | linux: like http://forums.geeksharks.com (example, hosted by me) |
18:58:42 | adam | ... |
18:58:42 | LinusN | we haven't really felt a need for a forum |
18:58:45 | adam | BBS blow :P |
18:58:53 | adam | consumes more time than IRC |
18:58:58 | DJBaz | yeh |
18:59:03 | DJBaz | but not everyone can access irc |
18:59:08 | DJBaz | check ma forums |
18:59:13 | adam | so...? |
18:59:14 | DJBaz | www.liberationfrequency.vze.com |
18:59:24 | adam | :p |
18:59:31 | i_am_pi | brb |
18:59:32 | DJBaz | fast eh :p |
18:59:39 | LinusN | forums are good, and we will not stop anyone from creating one |
18:59:40 | adam | it's not hard to have a shell account |
18:59:58 | DJBaz | yeh |
19:00 |
19:00:03 | LinusN | however, we developers will still use IRC |
19:00:07 | DJBaz | just offering thats all... ya dont need to bite my head off :P |
19:00:30 | LinusN | DJBaz: no, we will kill you in a less painful way |
19:00:38 | DJBaz | lol |
19:00:39 | adam | uh |
19:00:46 | quel|out | LinusN: may i use him in my rituals?? |
19:00:49 | quel|out | pliiizzzz |
19:00:54 | quel|out | let me :) |
19:00:54 | DJBaz | noooo |
19:00:55 | DJBaz | :< |
19:01:06 | adam | you're using what script for that 'forum'? |
19:01:06 | adam | it looks kinda like geeklog |
19:01:16 | LinusN | i can give you his spline, i want the rest for the red led death bug |
19:01:24 | DJBaz | lol |
19:01:33 | DJBaz | adam invision board |
19:01:35 | LinusN | spline? is that the word? |
19:01:37 | adam | hmm |
19:01:47 | Schnueff | spine? |
19:01:48 | * | adam has a distinct distaste for all things forum |
19:01:53 | quel|out | spline? that sounds like a mathematical function |
19:01:54 | adam | but |
19:01:56 | DJBaz | lol |
19:01:57 | adam | I do run geeklog |
19:02:02 | DJBaz | thats the portal adam :p |
19:02:02 | LinusN | no, not the spine |
19:02:04 | DJBaz | click forum lol |
19:02:05 | adam | http://rei.damnsw.net/ |
19:02:06 | LinusN | slpeen? |
19:02:08 | quel|out | differential ecuations and so on :) |
19:02:17 | adam | yeah, obviously, DJ |
19:02:24 | DJBaz | gd gd... jst making sure :p |
19:02:39 | quel|out | what are you trying to give me linus? a part of the body? or what? |
19:03:12 | LinusN | spleen, that's it |
19:03:25 | quel|out | what's a spleen?? |
19:03:30 | DJBaz | omg |
19:03:31 | DJBaz | lol |
19:03:34 | DJBaz | its something |
19:03:34 | DJBaz | :p |
19:05:50 | adam | you need it to live |
19:05:50 | adam | hmm |
19:05:50 | * | adam would need a Claymore mine anti-theft system for any laptop he bought |
19:05:50 | adam | :P |
19:05:50 | DBUG | Sent KICK adam to server |
19:05:50 | adam | especially if it were one of those expensive ones that are ugly and heavy, but have lots of cool stuff on them |
19:05:50 | Kick | (#rockbox adam :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
19:06:20 | | Join adam [0] (jankey@x84-207-243-dhcp.reshalls.umn.edu) |
19:06:23 | adam | ... |
19:06:29 | DJBaz | lol |
19:06:32 | adam | whatever happened to openprojects.net |
19:06:38 | adam | that didn't have huge lag issues |
19:07:49 | i_am_pi | I'm back |
19:08:46 | quel|out | linus.. why should i want a spleen?? |
19:08:47 | DJBaz | wb |
19:08:53 | i_am_pi | spleens? |
19:09:15 | quel|out | i can't give that to the metal gods :( |
19:13:09 | DJBaz | hm |
19:13:42 | DJBaz | does anyone here know how to make the jukebox recorder play a song at a certain time... but i dont want the jukebox to turn off |
19:13:45 | DJBaz | if u know what i mean |
19:14:14 | LinusN | DJBaz: that is not implemented yet |
19:14:24 | DJBaz | but it will be some time yeh? |
19:14:29 | LinusN | maybe |
19:14:39 | DJBaz | kk |
19:14:45 | LinusN | it's in the request database |
19:14:50 | DJBaz | ok |
19:14:55 | DJBaz | i really should check that out |
19:14:55 | DJBaz | :p |
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19:16:42 | TBoy | guys |
19:16:51 | TBoy | I have a big problem |
19:17:03 | LinusN | and you want to make it ours? :-) |
19:17:12 | TBoy | my comp doesn't recognise my FM anymore |
19:17:15 | TBoy | yes :D |
19:17:39 | LinusN | does the fm work normally otherwise? |
19:18:10 | TBoy | normally I just plugged the usb cable |
19:18:44 | TBoy | and it worked |
19:19:13 | TBoy | but now it gets detected as an unknown device |
19:19:31 | LinusN | any other usb devices connected? |
19:19:34 | TBoy | nope |
19:19:50 | LinusN | tried another port? |
19:20:02 | LinusN | tried reinstalling the drivers? |
19:20:12 | LinusN | which os? |
19:26:23 | TBoy | sry for the delay |
19:26:32 | TBoy | got attacked by bees in my rook |
19:26:52 | TBoy | I'm using xp pro |
19:27:03 | TBoy | i reinstalled the drivers |
19:27:07 | TBoy | still no luck |
19:27:51 | quel|out | LinusN? |
19:29:32 | LinusN | hmmm |
19:29:47 | TBoy | just tried another port still no luck |
19:30:15 | LinusN | does the fm work with another computer? |
19:30:16 | TBoy | I'm going to try a restart once more |
19:30:24 | TBoy | brb |
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19:33:57 | TBoy | darn still no luck |
19:34:39 | LinusN | does the fm work with another computer? |
19:35:45 | TBoy | yep |
19:36:05 | LinusN | silly winxp |
19:36:06 | TBoy | it works and worked without a hassle on all comps so far |
19:36:10 | TBoy | yep |
19:36:17 | LinusN | what happened before it stopped working? |
19:36:35 | TBoy | nothing |
19:36:40 | TBoy | I plugged it in |
19:36:43 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
19:36:55 | TBoy | and it got detected as a unknown device |
19:37:34 | i_am_pi | did you reinstall the drivers, tboy? |
19:38:22 | adam | heh, and it didn't show up? |
19:38:22 | adam | eh |
19:38:22 | * | adam just has times where his drive doesn't appear |
19:38:22 | adam | it's detected by chkdsk and all |
19:38:22 | TBoy | wait |
19:38:30 | TBoy | I found something |
19:39:38 | TBoy | it says in my logs that the Personal Player USB Driver couldn't be started because it wasn't found |
19:39:40 | TBoy | hehe |
19:39:43 | TBoy | thats strange |
19:39:50 | TBoy | I'll try to delete it |
19:39:55 | TBoy | or uninstall it |
19:40:03 | TBoy | the drivers that is |
19:41:25 | i_am_pi | *sigh* i pity my school's web designers |
19:41:29 | i_am_pi | they just found out about "flash" |
19:41:34 | adam | noooo! |
19:41:43 | * | adam notes there are two pitfalls most people get into |
19:41:47 | i_am_pi | adam: http://chs.sfps.k12.nm.us/ |
19:41:49 | adam | trying to get a website to look 'good' |
19:41:53 | i_am_pi | every single link on there is flash. |
19:42:08 | i_am_pi | impossible to navigate if you're on anything but the designer's computer :-P |
19:42:14 | LinusN | idiots |
19:42:19 | adam | and trying to make a website look 'cool' |
19:42:25 | i_am_pi | contrast with my web site: http://www.pihost.us/~pi/ |
19:42:26 | adam | two specifically different things |
19:42:40 | i_am_pi | simple, complete, navigatable, valid HTML, no plugins. |
19:42:55 | adam | cool, as in tiny greyish fonts on black and blue, with tons of artsy gif images |
19:42:59 | i_am_pi | viewable with telnet pihost.us:80 |
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19:43:03 | adam | god |
19:43:05 | adam | it has *MUSIC* |
19:43:12 | i_am_pi | .wav format, too. |
19:43:24 | i_am_pi | so you have to havea a T1 |
19:43:45 | i_am_pi | a lot of the student pages have .wavs |
19:44:00 | adam | http://chs.sfps.k12.nm.us/spring2003/spring2003.htm |
19:44:01 | i_am_pi | at least they did last year.. this isn't a common site for me to visit (with good reason) |
19:44:13 | adam | I like how almost no links work |
19:44:33 | i_am_pi | oh, at least she stopped coding links like <a href="http://63.229.166.42/path/path/file.ext"> |
19:44:54 | i_am_pi | we moved IP addresses last year.. |
19:44:55 | adam | heh |
19:45:01 | * | adam likes... |
19:45:05 | adam | tex, and latex |
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19:45:13 | i_am_pi | i like PHP and perl |
19:45:17 | adam | well, lyx, I mean... |
19:45:30 | i_am_pi | and vi. I do everything in vi |
19:45:32 | adam | kind of duplicitous |
19:45:33 | i_am_pi | even on my mac. |
19:45:37 | adam | php and perl, that is |
19:45:46 | i_am_pi | perl is good for command line usage |
19:45:49 | i_am_pi | php is for web. |
19:46:06 | * | adam likes python, sometimes ;p |
19:46:24 | adam | but yeah, I know some perl and php |
19:46:29 | adam | mainly database and cgi related crud |
19:46:37 | i_am_pi | php == teh uber for databases |
19:46:53 | * | adam will use vim or notepad.exe ;p |
19:48:02 | TBoy | hmm |
19:48:06 | TBoy | can somebody |
19:48:07 | i_am_pi | i had vim on my network share, but the admins went on a mad "find all exe files and delete them" rampage.. |
19:48:16 | TBoy | help me solve my prob |
19:48:39 | i_am_pi | tboy: remove and reinstall the drivers already? |
19:48:45 | adam | i_am_pi, uh, can't it fit on a floppy :p |
19:48:51 | i_am_pi | oh. |
19:48:52 | adam | or worse, a zip |
19:48:57 | TBoy | I just removed them |
19:49:02 | i_am_pi | use winzip |
19:49:09 | i_am_pi | to span across multiple floppies :) |
19:49:14 | TBoy | if I'm right I can use the drivers from the archos site |
19:49:19 | i_am_pi | tboy: yes |
19:49:30 | i_am_pi | those work with rockbox |
19:49:32 | TBoy | what kind of a question was that |
19:49:33 | TBoy | haha |
19:49:38 | TBoy | I'm silly |
19:49:46 | adam | or use a more efficient algorithm than zip ;p |
19:49:46 | adam | and it's not like there is any real lack of that :p |
19:50:00 | i_am_pi | gogogo bzip2 |
19:50:59 | adam | I suppose there are small vi clones out there asides from vim |
19:51:11 | * | adam just doesn't like vanilla vi |
19:51:15 | i_am_pi | nvi, elvis |
19:51:16 | LinusN | TBoy: some people say that the Cypress drivers are better |
19:51:36 | i_am_pi | linus: aren't the cypress drivers the same thing on the archos site?? |
19:51:46 | LinusN | i'm not usre |
19:51:47 | adam | eh |
19:51:47 | LinusN | sure |
19:52:36 | TBoy | hmm |
19:52:44 | TBoy | the device manager |
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19:53:08 | TBoy | says that that driver pack doesn't cantain drivers for the device |
19:54:31 | TBoy | why does this happen now |
19:54:34 | TBoy | well |
19:54:42 | >>> | "help" by josh966 (~chatzilla@ak.nlc.com) |
19:54:50 | >>> | "cmd" by josh966 (~chatzilla@ak.nlc.com) |
19:54:56 | TBoy | I'll see if I can find some leftovers of the driver in xp |
19:57:00 | i_am_pi | ah xp. |
19:58:28 | TBoy | any idea where I should look |
19:58:32 | TBoy | or a specific file |
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20:01:39 | i_am_pi | get the archos drivers and go to Update Driver in the device mangler |
20:03:13 | | Join adam [0] (jankey@x84-207-243-dhcp.reshalls.umn.edu) |
20:03:53 | TBoy | that doesn't work |
20:06:22 | i_am_pi | er |
20:07:45 | | Quit thu ("Client exiting") |
20:08:05 | | Quit adam () |
20:08:29 | TBoy | its says that in the folder where I keep the drivers |
20:08:35 | TBoy | that there are no drivers |
20:09:28 | OnoSendai | are they unpacked? |
20:09:34 | TBoy | yep |
20:09:47 | LinusN | something must have happened before it stopped working |
20:09:57 | LinusN | it did work before, right? |
20:10:28 | | Join adam [0] (jankey@x84-207-243-dhcp.reshalls.umn.edu) |
20:11:16 | TBoy | yep |
20:11:28 | TBoy | hmm I don't see anything that might have happend |
20:11:43 | LinusN | no installation of other drivers o |
20:11:47 | LinusN | are software? |
20:11:52 | LinusN | or software |
20:12:20 | LinusN | have you tried on another computer after it stopped working on yours? |
20:12:57 | TBoy | I haven't connected it to this comp |
20:13:02 | TBoy | for a while like a week |
20:13:15 | TBoy | and in that time I installed vmware |
20:13:34 | TBoy | and that made some extra emulated nics |
20:14:10 | TBoy | and everytime I try to get my player detected it says something about IP |
20:14:14 | TBoy | IPs |
20:14:23 | LinusN | what does it call the unknown device? |
20:14:31 | TBoy | I'm gonna restart now |
20:14:36 | TBoy | unknown device+ |
20:14:38 | TBoy | unknown device |
20:14:49 | LinusN | it should still call it "ARCHOS USB 2.0" |
20:14:50 | TBoy | that is actually an extra driver |
20:15:07 | TBoy | it was always called some thing like player |
20:15:10 | TBoy | but it worked |
20:15:54 | TBoy | ok gonna restart |
20:16:01 | TBoy | wish me luck |
20:16:04 | adam | very verbose |
20:16:04 | adam | yeah, I'm wondering about that myself |
20:16:04 | adam | I just removed the old USB drivers |
20:16:04 | DBUG | Sent KICK adam to server |
20:16:04 | adam | for my old studio 20 |
20:16:05 | Kick | (#rockbox adam :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se |
20:16:11 | * | LinusN holds his thumbs |
20:16:21 | | Quit TBoy () |
20:17:51 | i_am_pi | rather twitchy bot |
20:17:57 | | Join adam_ [0] (~adam@c-24-118-131-171.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
20:18:01 | i_am_pi | tboy was talking more than adam.. |
20:18:05 | adam_ | the hell... |
20:18:12 | adam_ | it's lag, and a hypersensitive bot |
20:18:33 | | Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.216) |
20:18:49 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
20:18:50 | * | TBoy weeps |
20:18:57 | TBoy | no luck |
20:18:58 | Mode | "#rockbox -o logbot " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
20:19:06 | adam_ | that was what I was going to recommend |
20:19:14 | adam_ | ;p |
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20:19:18 | LinusN | you must have some serious lag |
20:19:31 | adam_ | it's probably the University |
20:19:41 | adam_ | but I'll just use my home shell |
20:19:44 | thu | rockbox rocks |
20:19:53 | TBoy | hmm |
20:19:54 | LinusN | thu: i know! :-) |
20:19:55 | i_am_pi | thu: yes it does, that's part of it's name :-D |
20:19:58 | adam_ | heh, still doesn't support FM |
20:20:00 | TBoy | what |
20:20:02 | adam_ | but asides from that, I do prefer it ;p |
20:20:12 | thu | adam_: FM is crappy anyway |
20:20:14 | LinusN | adam_: no, we have no radio drivers yet |
20:20:15 | thu | at least on my unit |
20:20:19 | thu | never used it :\ |
20:20:20 | adam_ | LinusN - yeah, I figured |
20:20:26 | adam_ | uh, thu |
20:20:30 | i_am_pi | must to go |
20:20:32 | * | adam_ records various things off the radio |
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20:20:37 | thu | it needs an antenna or something |
20:20:42 | adam_ | it *has* an antenna |
20:20:46 | adam_ | it uses your headphones |
20:20:52 | thu | an extra one then |
20:20:56 | thu | I get crappy reception |
20:21:00 | TBoy | LinusN you said you know sommin' |
20:21:17 | TBoy | or wasn't that info for me |
20:21:35 | LinusN | ??? |
20:21:58 | TBoy | sry I didn't notice the "thu:" |
20:22:10 | TBoy | thought you knew a solution to my prob |
20:22:12 | LinusN | TBoy: you should really try to connect it to another computer |
20:22:25 | TBoy | I'll try it right away |
20:22:32 | TBoy | I have one upstairs |
20:22:44 | TBoy | brb |
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20:23:02 | LinusN | thu: you use the original phones? |
20:23:06 | thu | LinusN: yes |
20:23:23 | thu | I keep expecting them to break ever since I got it |
20:23:28 | LinusN | i often helps to stretch the cord |
20:23:30 | thu | which was 5 months ago |
20:23:44 | adam_ | heh |
20:23:57 | thu | after they do maybe I can get myself some decent phones |
20:23:59 | adam_ | I don't see why they even package the phones with the thing |
20:24:06 | ciphergoth | reporting total succes with 40GB hard drive upgrade on a 6GB recorder, rar! |
20:24:17 | adam_ | some sony ear buds would probably be just as cheap and give you better sound quality |
20:24:19 | LinusN | ciphergoth: congrats |
20:24:31 | thu | adam_: they need to ship it with some kind of phones |
20:24:45 | adam_ | ciphergoth - comedy, too bad you can't replace the USB <-> ATA bridge ;p |
20:25:08 | thu | hmm I like the feature requests |
20:25:17 | thu | background mp3<->ogg conversion |
20:25:22 | adam_ | thu: okay, I've got two sets of those phones now |
20:25:22 | ciphergoth | adam_: I did try copying music files onto it using a direct ATA connection, but I had to copy the files across the network |
20:25:30 | ciphergoth | and it was slower than just plugging the USB in directly! |
20:25:44 | adam_ | ah |
20:26:01 | * | adam_ kind of wants a 9.5 mm adapter for those old drives |
20:26:05 | ciphergoth | Incidentally, what do the "doom" files do really? |
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20:26:11 | adam_ | ciphergoth - it's a joke |
20:26:17 | ciphergoth | adam_: I guessed |
20:26:19 | adam_ | just shows you a digitized image |
20:26:32 | ciphergoth | thus the phrasing of the question. I couldn't be bothered to install it just to find out what the joke was... |
20:26:58 | ciphergoth | adam_: I have such an adapter, it only cost GBP 5. I don't suppose you live in Edinburgh though... |
20:27:10 | adam_ | yeah, I know they're pretty cheap |
20:27:42 | adam_ | I could just stop by the local computer chop shop :p |
20:27:50 | thu | hey quake is opensource too |
20:27:53 | thu | why not port that? |
20:28:26 | adam_ | because the recorder is tragically underpowered. |
20:28:35 | thu | on another note I'd like a 802.11-enabled jukebox that could play online streams |
20:28:50 | adam_ | you kids and your wireless |
20:29:01 | LinusN | wireless is nice |
20:29:16 | LinusN | xp fucks up my dlink though |
20:29:19 | thu | if the guys at archos come out with an ogg version they'll probably sell out |
20:29:25 | ciphergoth | If I had a 100Mbit network, it would be much faster for me to use the adapter to copy files. |
20:29:36 | ciphergoth | thu: I wish i had your optimism |
20:29:41 | * | adam_ is too cheap |
20:29:55 | adam_ | why bother with ogg? |
20:29:58 | ciphergoth | if they ever add ogg capacity they'll probably sell three more players. |
20:29:59 | adam_ | no one knows about it |
20:30:21 | ciphergoth | adam_: not so, it's already finding lots of niche applications eg games |
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20:30:29 | thu | heh I spend a lot of time on campus where we have wireless |
20:30:31 | Gissehel | hello ! |
20:30:37 | LinusN | hi |
20:30:37 | adam_ | the open source guys never were that hardcore about marketing ;p |
20:30:40 | ciphergoth | I'd certainly use ogg if the player supported it, it sounds better |
20:30:43 | thu | it would be nice to be able to share music between jukeboxes |
20:30:54 | ciphergoth | adam_: it costs money. You want to give them the money? |
20:31:09 | ciphergoth | thu: yeah, I wish they could master USB as well as slaving it |
20:31:25 | adam_ | no, but I don't think technical details are the primary drive behind what format you use on your player |
20:31:40 | adam_ | I guess what you need is a powerful general purpose setup |
20:31:46 | thu | unfortunatelly if they would add all the nice features to it the price would probably go waay up |
20:31:50 | ciphergoth | adam_: sound quality against compression is one reason, patent freedom is another |
20:31:56 | TBoy | It works!!!! |
20:32:07 | * | TBoy w00ts |
20:32:09 | thu | TBoy: doom? |
20:32:14 | ciphergoth | thu: not really, if only the MAS guys would release the specs we could find out whether ogg can be made to go on the existing hardware |
20:32:18 | TBoy | it was the rockbox build |
20:32:21 | TBoy | I guess |
20:32:36 | TBoy | I started the usb connection without the rb and it worked |
20:32:45 | LinusN | ciphergoth: ogg is probably doomed on the MAS even if we have the specs |
20:32:53 | thu | ciphergoth: I thought you need a fatter cpu for ogg |
20:33:02 | adam_ | heh |
20:33:04 | * | adam_ sees it now |
20:33:13 | LinusN | ogg is too memory demanding for the MAS |
20:33:22 | adam_ | 200mhz mp3 players :p |
20:33:34 | ciphergoth | LinusN: Is that an inherent fact about ogg rather than just a fact about existing implementations then/ |
20:33:44 | adam_ | well, hell, I guess any PDA that can handle ogg could easily become an mp3 player |
20:33:56 | LinusN | TBoy: really? |
20:34:06 | PsycoXul | adam_: my pda can |
20:34:12 | thu | sharp zaurus + 20 gig hdd = love |
20:34:12 | TBoy | yep |
20:34:13 | ciphergoth | I'd wondered if existing implementations were table-heavy just because that was fast on modern processors. |
20:34:14 | adam_ | PsycoXul - yeah |
20:34:15 | TBoy | it worked |
20:34:16 | LinusN | ciphergoth: lots of lookup tables, at least with the Tremor |
20:34:23 | PsycoXul | and it was only $114 |
20:34:35 | PsycoXul | but almost no storage space |
20:34:35 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:34:37 | adam_ | all you need in that situation is a long lasting battery, thu |
20:34:44 | adam_ | heh |
20:34:53 | PsycoXul | oh yeah and mine's only got a 4 hour battery life |
20:34:54 | PsycoXul | heh |
20:34:54 | thu | sharp zaurus + 20 gig hdd + long lasting battery = love |
20:34:55 | adam_ | I doubt there are any PDAs that can handle 9.5mm drives |
20:34:57 | PsycoXul | without an HD |
20:35:00 | LinusN | TBoy: i mean about it not working with the rockbox code running |
20:35:09 | ciphergoth | adam_: but WHY NOT? |
20:35:12 | thu | what do you get if you put together an archos and a pda? |
20:35:19 | thu | and make the pda use the archos battery? |
20:35:22 | TBoy | thanks for the help |
20:35:24 | ciphergoth | thu: the answer to my dreams! |
20:35:25 | adam_ | ciphergoth - I haven't seen any... ;) |
20:35:37 | adam_ | If you show me one, then I'll move to the next demand |
20:35:37 | TBoy | and for the great Doom port |
20:35:44 | adam_ | handling USB2 drives ;p |
20:35:45 | TBoy | it rules |
20:35:50 | TBoy | r0x0r |
20:35:56 | Gissehel | I've not seen the doom port right now |
20:36:07 | Gissehel | but I've got an idea about what it look like |
20:36:16 | thu | is there a practical reason nobody did it yet or just a price problem? |
20:36:23 | ciphergoth | I know. I want one so much! A PDA that can replace my Archos, with bluetooth and a phone built in |
20:36:44 | thu | ciphergoth: it would be too heavy because of the hdd |
20:36:50 | TBoy | hmm |
20:36:55 | adam_ | uh |
20:37:00 | TBoy | but the archos also have a hdd |
20:37:05 | Gissehel | I want a PDA AND the the archos, so I can use the HDS from archos on the PDA ! |
20:37:06 | TBoy | and we carry them around |
20:37:08 | thu | ciphergoth: but you can adda bluetooth headset |
20:37:17 | ciphergoth | thu: I find the weight of the Archos acceptable, I wouldn't mind my PDA weighing that much |
20:37:30 | ciphergoth | thu: exactly |
20:37:33 | thu | can't say i would either |
20:37:40 | adam_ | I think most of the weight for the archos comes from batteries ;p |
20:37:44 | adam_ | NiMH, at least |
20:38:07 | ciphergoth | thu: here's my current feelings on the subject: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jwz/180812.html |
20:38:13 | thu | my archos sheds :( |
20:38:20 | thu | anybody else loosing the color off it? |
20:38:28 | adam_ | thu: my old studio lost alot |
20:38:30 | thu | especially on the back |
20:38:35 | adam_ | mainly the buttons |
20:38:41 | Gissehel | I wouldn't mind a PDA weighing as much as archos if it can use as much hard drive ! |
20:38:42 | thu | my fm sheds on the back |
20:38:45 | thu | probably because of the heat |
20:38:48 | ciphergoth | Batteries and HDD. Yeah, stick in Li-Ion instead of NiMH to save weight... It'd cost about GBP 400 but I'd pay it like a shot. |
20:39:05 | adam_ | well |
20:39:09 | thu | heh a nice pda is almost a working computer |
20:39:20 | adam_ | the more 'features' crammed into it, the more problems can occur |
20:39:21 | thu | add a hard drive and it gets interesting |
20:39:39 | Gissehel | thu: that's why I want a master USB on PDA |
20:39:50 | Gissehel | to be able to add an archos on it :o) |
20:39:58 | ciphergoth | Gissehel: me too, so it can get photos off my camera |
20:40:32 | thu | that can be somewhat solved with the multimedia version |
20:40:43 | thu | but it would be nice to access the files on the hdd from the pda |
20:40:45 | * | TBoy feels all warm inside because of the help and love in this room |
20:40:47 | thu | to play oggs for example |
20:41:03 | Gissehel | I want an archos wifi & a pda wifi.. |
20:41:15 | thu | hmm i like the spatializer features in rockbox |
20:41:16 | ciphergoth | TBoy: no, it's getting warm in here because all these geeks are fantasising... |
20:41:18 | thu | not much but it works |
20:41:28 | * | thu drools :P~~ |
20:41:33 | adam_ | hmm |
20:41:36 | TBoy | ok apart from that : ) hehe |
20:41:37 | Gissehel | a spatializer ? I knew I should have updraded ! |
20:41:40 | adam_ | Sharp Zaurus |
20:41:41 | ciphergoth | (including me of course!) |
20:41:53 | TBoy | hey I made a hi-res icon for the FM |
20:41:56 | TBoy | any1 intersted |
20:42:01 | thu | what icon? |
20:42:03 | TBoy | I'll put it on my webbie |
20:42:27 | TBoy | http://www.herzovision.de/obrien-richard/Richard/FM-Recorder.ico |
20:42:33 | TBoy | here take alook |
20:42:49 | thu | it's really small |
20:42:53 | thu | really really small |
20:43:06 | TBoy | its size is 16², 32², 48² and 128² |
20:43:18 | thu | all in one? |
20:43:21 | TBoy | yeo |
20:43:22 | TBoy | yep |
20:43:28 | thu | hmm :\ |
20:43:29 | TBoy | you just have to use it |
20:43:34 | TBoy | to get it too work |
20:43:38 | adam_ | yeah |
20:43:38 | TBoy | don't know why :P |
20:43:41 | adam_ | .ico :p |
20:43:45 | ciphergoth | does the Zaurus come with a hard drive? Or are you discussing putting one in the CF slot? |
20:43:55 | adam_ | ciphergoth - heh, it'd be interesting |
20:43:56 | ciphergoth | (it runs Linux? Am I dreaming?) |
20:44:03 | Gissehel | so it's time to test the doom soft. I hope it's well done (unlike the screen shot on the site) |
20:44:10 | adam_ | it runs Linux with weird QT widgets |
20:44:15 | adam_ | rather than X |
20:44:19 | adam_ | for obvious reasons... |
20:44:31 | PsycoXul | embedded QT was nice when i played with the demo |
20:44:40 | ciphergoth | fair enough |
20:44:50 | adam_ | yeah |
20:44:51 | thu | iirc zaurus had a pretty dim screen |
20:44:57 | adam_ | there is a fair amount of software available |
20:44:58 | thu | compared to the ipaq |
20:45:11 | thu | yeah and they recently dropped the price under $200 |
20:45:17 | thu | it was on slashdot |
20:45:26 | adam_ | for the Zaurus? |
20:45:29 | thu | yeah |
20:45:37 | thu | ~$170 |
20:45:41 | adam_ | I guess my problem is |
20:45:47 | adam_ | justfiying the purchase |
20:45:54 | adam_ | er, tif |
20:45:57 | adam_ | I use my mp3 player every day |
20:45:58 | thu | my handspring visor was cool for less than a year |
20:46:08 | thu | then the phone antenna broke and they wouldn't fix it |
20:46:14 | thu | then it ended up in a drawer |
20:46:17 | adam_ | and it's not like the thing gets 'outdated', realy |
20:47:04 | thu | hmm the rockbox fader is nice too |
20:47:13 | adam_ | what 'fader'? |
20:47:18 | adam_ | it's not rockbox specific |
20:47:22 | thu | the stop/pause 'fader' |
20:47:26 | adam_ | well, that one is |
20:47:27 | adam_ | ;) |
20:47:33 | adam_ | I was thinking backlight |
20:47:39 | thu | nah |
20:47:48 | thu | too bad it' |
20:47:58 | thu | too bad it's not easy to write a crossfader |
20:48:08 | adam_ | uh, it's not the 'writing' element |
20:48:10 | thu | or possible rather |
20:48:14 | adam_ | it's the lack of two decoders |
20:48:14 | thu | yeah.. the decoding |
20:48:45 | thu | adam_: what about decoding first song ahead of time then decoding the second? |
20:48:55 | thu | is there enough memory to store a few secs of mp3? |
20:49:10 | LinusN | thu: the decoding is done in hardware, in realtime |
20:49:21 | thu | oh well :( |
20:49:32 | adam_ | written in stone, I guess |
20:49:37 | LinusN | yup |
20:49:51 | thu | hehe.. hardware mod −− adding another decoder |
20:50:02 | LinusN | hehe |
20:50:15 | adam_ | why not just get a more powerful box in general |
20:50:32 | thu | because I'm broke? |
20:50:51 | ciphergoth | I'm amazed what you guys have managed to make the Archos do given the wired-in limitations... |
20:50:58 | adam_ | well, eh |
20:51:18 | * | adam_ is amused by pitch changing |
20:51:25 | thu | what pitch changing? |
20:51:27 | adam_ | made megadeth sound like alvin and the chipmunks |
20:51:35 | LinusN | too bad we can't get rid of the sound glitch |
20:51:43 | thu | can rockbox do that? |
20:51:48 | adam_ | yes |
20:51:52 | thu | hmm |
20:51:55 | LinusN | thu: yes, with the recorder |
20:51:57 | thu | time to look through the menus again |
20:51:58 | adam_ | on the recorder |
20:52:06 | LinusN | hold ON in the WPS |
20:52:12 | * | adam_ has thoroughly investigated :P |
20:53:08 | ciphergoth | "sound glitch"? |
20:53:16 | thu | lol :)) |
20:53:30 | thu | I don't get it.. how can you do this with a hardware decoder? |
20:53:31 | * | adam_ just wishes the stepping on the pitch increase/decrease was higher |
20:53:41 | thu | adam_: same here |
20:53:51 | ciphergoth | adam_: worse still: http://gothbofhs.co.uk/~paul/random/no-jingles.mp3 |
20:54:08 | ciphergoth | (if you like Radiohead anyway) |
20:54:10 | LinusN | ciphergoth: a small silent pause when changing pitch |
20:54:39 | ciphergoth | Well, OK, but isn't pitch changing basically a gimmick anyway? |
20:54:47 | thu | how does the pitch change work? |
20:54:57 | LinusN | ciphergoth: no, it's actually useful, for dj:ing |
20:55:14 | thu | LinusN: dj:ing with the archos? |
20:55:20 | ciphergoth | LinusN: gotcha. Cute! |
20:55:22 | LinusN | yup, with 2 archoses |
20:55:25 | thu | :)) |
20:55:34 | thu | what about the sound glitch then? |
20:55:36 | LinusN | there are people doing just that |
20:55:57 | ciphergoth | (though I don't go to clubs where they beatmatch...) |
20:56:03 | LinusN | problem is that you can't change pitch while playing |
20:56:08 | thu | I've still got to see such a feat |
20:56:42 | * | ciphergoth still has 45 minutes to wait before all his music files are copied onto his new big hard drive |
20:56:57 | LinusN | the Player models are able to change playback speed without changing the pitch |
20:57:20 | LinusN | but that DSP code is not available to us :-( |
20:57:28 | thu | how come? |
20:57:40 | ciphergoth | Does that have to be done on the DSP? It can't be done by clever massaging of the MP3 data stream? |
20:57:41 | LinusN | it is secret |
20:57:48 | LinusN | ciphergoth: no |
20:58:10 | ciphergoth | I have only the very vaguest idea how music is compressed, forgive me... |
20:59:25 | thu | heh I don't get how the rockbox pitch change works |
20:59:38 | ciphergoth | 21c moment: I'm waiting for a text message from a friend to say he's found the CD I left in his house and put it in his CD-ROM drive |
20:59:52 | ciphergoth | so I can ssh into the back of his machine, rip it, and transfer it over |
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21:00:12 | thu | how come the firmware takes a few secs to shutdown and rockbox doesn't? |
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21:09:53 | edx | damn i should have thoguht about april 1st... stupid all this :P - i have already been so happy! |
21:14:17 | ciphergoth | I've seen some *very* subtle April Fools jokes! |
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21:14:58 | ciphergoth | A top cryptanalyst on sci.crypt claiming to have found an attack on AES |
21:15:05 | ciphergoth | you have to be pretty on your toes to see the joke. |
21:18:02 | LinusN | thu: the pitch change works by fooling the MP3 decoding chip |
21:18:39 | LinusN | it needs to be told about the frequency of the external crystal |
21:19:08 | LinusN | we lie about it, and it plays the data at a different sampling rate |
21:19:43 | LinusN | thu: the original firmware shuts down more "cleanly" than we do |
21:21:43 | quel|out | bye |
21:21:55 | ciphergoth | LinusN: why shut down cleanly? |
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21:22:36 | LinusN | like, make sure that all not-yet-written data is flushed to disk, stuff like that |
21:22:55 | LinusN | i honestly don't know whyt it takes them so long |
21:22:59 | ciphergoth | LinusN: but presumably you do that bit because you write the suspension data to disk |
21:23:03 | ciphergoth | (don't you?) |
21:23:28 | LinusN | the recorders write the resume info in the RTC RAM |
21:23:49 | ciphergoth | oh, I'd assumed it all went on disk for some reason. |
21:24:09 | LinusN | it goes to disk as well, when the disk is spun up for other reasons |
21:24:15 | LinusN | gotta eat |
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22:01:34 | Mezo | hi |
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22:01:50 | Mezo | Need Help with my archos ... ;) |
22:02:03 | Mezo | I don't manage to mount it under FreeBSD ... |
22:02:15 | Mezo | does someone ever success ? |
22:02:21 | Mezo | (xcuse my english) |
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22:06:23 | [BAMF]Vul | Hi, I installed the RochBox 1.4 on my Jukebox Studio 10, 5.08 firmware, and I get the red light flash whenever i try to do anything, like play a song, go to next song, ect, is this normal, or am i doing something wrong? |
22:06:32 | [BAMF]Vul | sorry if this is a repeat question, but I am still new at this |
22:08:10 | Gissehel | [BAMF]Vul: I don't have studio |
22:08:14 | Gissehel | I have recorder |
22:08:33 | Gissehel | but the red light seems to be on whenever the archos acces to the hard drive |
22:08:48 | [BAMF]Vul | yea, and i can hear the drive spin up |
22:08:54 | [BAMF]Vul | i tried disabling that spin down feature |
22:08:56 | [BAMF]Vul | but it still did it |
22:08:57 | Gissehel | so whenever you 'play a song', "go to next song" you use your hard drive |
22:09:00 | Gissehel | that sound normal |
22:09:13 | [BAMF]Vul | yea, but it doesnt do it without RockBox |
22:09:31 | [BAMF]Vul | or is this light just a feature to show HD activity |
22:09:32 | Gissehel | with rockbox ? |
22:09:36 | Gissehel | or with archos os ? |
22:09:47 | Gissehel | withOUT |
22:09:49 | [BAMF]Vul | right, it doesnt do it with Archos OS |
22:09:53 | Gissehel | didn't notice the OUT ;) |
22:09:56 | [BAMF]Vul | lol |
22:09:57 | [BAMF]Vul | its pok |
22:09:59 | [BAMF]Vul | ok* |
22:10:06 | Gissehel | I don't remember the archos os ;) |
22:10:10 | Gissehel | I'll try it |
22:10:20 | [BAMF]Vul | i want to use RockBox, but I am afraid that the red light flashing isnt a good thing |
22:10:25 | [BAMF]Vul | because its not normal at least |
22:10:33 | Mezo | [BAMF]Vul: LOL |
22:10:42 | Mezo | red light is normal |
22:10:53 | Mezo | red flash -> Hard drive access |
22:10:59 | [BAMF]Vul | well it isnt normal on mine with the Archos OS |
22:11:00 | Mezo | like your HD Led for your PC |
22:11:12 | [BAMF]Vul | it never flashes with the archos os, only rockbox |
22:11:13 | Mezo | with rockbox it's normal |
22:11:15 | [BAMF]Vul | thats why i was asking |
22:11:16 | [BAMF]Vul | ok |
22:11:19 | [BAMF]Vul | thats what i was wondering |
22:11:21 | [BAMF]Vul | thanks a lot |
22:11:24 | Mezo | ;) |
22:11:42 | Gissehel | ok |
22:11:44 | Mezo | ever people under *BSD OS here ? |
22:11:52 | [BAMF]Vul | because i love the system, but when that light started going, i was all freaked out |
22:11:52 | Gissehel | you're right it doesn't do it with archos os ! |
22:11:59 | Mezo | I don't manage to mount my archos ... |
22:12:02 | [BAMF]Vul | lol, thats what had me freaked out |
22:12:16 | [BAMF]Vul | i read in my manual that the solid red is an HD error |
22:12:21 | [BAMF]Vul | so i didnt think flashing red was good either |
22:13:13 | [BAMF]Vul | are there any other OS's for Archos players, or is RockBox just the best |
22:13:36 | Gissehel | Mezo: that's because you don't have any usb slot on your box ;) |
22:13:45 | Mezo | Gissehel: not reallly ;) |
22:14:01 | Gissehel | well |
22:14:08 | Mezo | port 2 addr 3: self powered, config 1, USB Storage Adapter(0x0031), In-System Design(0x05ab), rev 1.10 |
22:14:12 | Gissehel | that's my problem with my linux box in fact ;) |
22:14:22 | Gissehel | I don't have any usb device on it |
22:14:25 | Mezo | I have patch kernel too ... |
22:14:34 | Gissehel | so.. I use the laptop under windows... |
22:14:40 | Mezo | I have add the HITACHI hard drive ... (hard drive of archos) |
22:14:45 | Mezo | but not work ... ;( |
22:15:35 | Mezo | shit ! must going to windows in order to use my archos ... |
22:15:37 | Mezo | ;(((( |
22:15:38 | Mezo | ;) |
22:16:36 | Gissehel | buy another computer |
22:16:42 | Gissehel | put it under windows ! |
22:16:47 | Gissehel | that what I've done ;) |
22:16:55 | Mezo | never ;) |
22:17:02 | Gissehel | (well, yes I got the other computer BEFORE the archos ;) ) |
22:17:03 | Mezo | all my computer are under BSD os ... |
22:17:08 | Gissehel | :o) |
22:17:18 | Gissehel | well I don't especially like windows |
22:17:36 | Mezo | well .. I never manage to use it ... ;) |
22:17:38 | Gissehel | but it's nice to be able to use one computer under windows |
22:17:47 | Mezo | with me ... it's always crash ... |
22:17:51 | Gissehel | :o) |
22:17:58 | [BAMF]Vul | Hey, one other question, how do you install the daily updates files? or are they not that important unless your having a problem |
22:18:17 | Mezo | use your brain ! |
22:18:18 | Gissehel | you just have to copy the file ! |
22:18:39 | Gissehel | daily updates ? or daily builds ? |
22:18:43 | Mezo | * rockbox-daily-20030326.tar.gz (518854 bytes) Changelog (0 changes) |
22:18:43 | Mezo | * rockbox-daily-20030327.tar.gz (518871 bytes) Changelog (0 changes) |
22:18:46 | Mezo | 0 zeros ... |
22:18:47 | [BAMF]Vul | i guess the updates |
22:18:50 | [BAMF]Vul | yea those |
22:18:51 | Mezo | no need to update ... |
22:18:54 | [BAMF]Vul | you just change the name? |
22:18:57 | [BAMF]Vul | to archos.mod? |
22:19:03 | Gissehel | two things : |
22:19:09 | Gissehel | either you rename it |
22:19:21 | Gissehel | either you use "rolo" to boot on it with another name |
22:19:45 | Gissehel | (don't know if rolo can be used under standard archos, It works under recorder) |
22:19:52 | LinusN|dinner | [BAMF]Vul: the *.tar.gz files are source code archives |
22:20:06 | LinusN|dinner | download the firmware files only |
22:20:08 | PsycoXul | ROLO works under players and recorders both, running rockbox |
22:20:28 | Gissehel | ok, so you can use rolo |
22:20:33 | [BAMF]Vul | ok |
22:20:39 | Gissehel | but use it with "daily builds" |
22:20:51 | Gissehel | note that daily build may be corrupted |
22:21:13 | [BAMF]Vul | so unless i have a problem, just stick with the 1.4 release? |
22:21:16 | LinusN|dinner | not corrupted, but might contain bugs |
22:21:28 | Gissehel | well yes |
22:21:34 | Gissehel | like linus says :) |
22:21:38 | [BAMF]Vul | ok guys |
22:21:38 | LinusN|dinner | the daily builds have tons of new features you don't want to be without |
22:21:44 | [BAMF]Vul | hrm |
22:21:53 | Gissehel | unless you have a problem OR you want a feature that isn't in the stable release |
22:22:03 | [BAMF]Vul | so just to get this straight, what should i download |
22:22:07 | Gissehel | and I think there are a lot of new cool features ! |
22:22:10 | [BAMF]Vul | whats it called on the daily release page |
22:22:34 | Gissehel | [BAMF]Vul: to sum up : |
22:22:35 | [BAMF]Vul | daily builds page i mean |
22:22:41 | LinusN|dinner | "target builds" |
22:22:51 | Gissehel | 1/ download the stable 1.4 rockbox |
22:23:02 | Gissehel | 2/ download the build for today (20030401) |
22:23:18 | Gissehel | 3/ put the stable at the root as archos.mod |
22:23:36 | Gissehel | 4/ put the 20030401 as archos-20030401.mod at the root |
22:23:40 | Gissehel | boot on the stable |
22:24:00 | Gissehel | if you want to try the unstable, just execute the file (like you do when you play a song) |
22:24:11 | Gissehel | then, it will boot on the unstable... |
22:24:20 | [BAMF]Vul | ohh ok |
22:24:38 | LinusN|dinner | i would definitely do it the other way, having 1.4 as an alternative |
22:25:07 | Gissehel | LinusN|dinner: you would, but remember that [BAMF]Vul is stressed by the fact the right light flash ;) |
22:25:11 | [BAMF]Vul | so boot off the build and have the 1.4 as like archos-14.mod |
22:25:17 | LinusN|dinner | yup |
22:25:29 | [BAMF]Vul | im not stressed, just making sure it wasnt anything wrong |
22:25:34 | [BAMF]Vul | better safe than sorry |
22:25:35 | LinusN|dinner | we want as many people as possible to run the latest builds |
22:25:47 | Gissehel | [BAMF]Vul: boot off the one you want to use as every day's one, click on antoher to try another thing... |
22:26:16 | Gissehel | note that you can boot on the archos os with ROLO too |
22:26:21 | [BAMF]Vul | last question, then i will leave you alone :) im running the 1.4 right now, and i can hear my HD spin up and down per the 10 second spindown interval, is that a good time, or should it be longer/shorter |
22:26:34 | | Nick LinusN|dinner is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) |
22:26:57 | LinusN | [BAMF]Vul: bitrate? |
22:27:17 | [BAMF]Vul | ? |
22:27:30 | [BAMF]Vul | the hard drive just spins down and then after about 30 seconds i hear it restart |
22:27:37 | [BAMF]Vul | just playing songs at random |
22:27:56 | LinusN | it should spin down as soon as it has filled the MP3 buffer |
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22:28:04 | [BAMF]Vul | ok thats what i thought |
22:28:17 | [BAMF]Vul | and then it restarts after a little bit right |
22:28:22 | LinusN | except for the first time, where it will wait until the spindown timeout |
22:29:12 | [BAMF]Vul | alright thanks guys, im gonna try todays build and see if it works |
22:29:20 | LinusN | 128kbit/s should spin up about once every 90 secs or so |
22:32:03 | [BAMF]Vul | alright cool it works, the daily build worked great too |
22:32:24 | LinusN | nice |
22:32:33 | [BAMF]Vul | i dont remember if i asked, but the build is only good for the new features added that day, not any of the previous builds right? |
22:32:33 | LinusN | have fun |
22:32:45 | LinusN | it contains everything |
22:32:48 | [BAMF]Vul | oh it does |
22:32:50 | [BAMF]Vul | even better |
22:33:01 | LinusN | it is a daily release candidate for 2.0 |
22:33:15 | [BAMF]Vul | ohhh |
22:33:16 | LinusN | (sort of) |
22:33:42 | [BAMF]Vul | so if your happy running the build, there is no reason you cant run it as your main boot OS |
22:33:52 | LinusN | exactly |
22:34:07 | [BAMF]Vul | well good work, this was a really cool idea |
22:34:12 | [BAMF]Vul | sorry to ask stupid questions and all |
22:34:21 | LinusN | :-) |
22:36:13 | adi|work | no worries.. LinusN is used to answering stupid questions.. |
22:36:18 | adi|work | least he has been since i joined ;) |
22:36:57 | LinusN | :-) |
22:38:07 | [BAMF]Vul | oh, do any of you know where to download the Archos OS 5.08 for the player? |
22:38:16 | [BAMF]Vul | all i can ever find on Archos' site is the 5.07a |
22:38:40 | LinusN | that's probably the same thing |
22:38:43 | [BAMF]Vul | i have the 5.08 preinstalled on my player, but i would like to have the MOD file in case I want to use it again |
22:38:52 | [BAMF]Vul | you think? |
22:39:07 | [BAMF]Vul | the dates were different on the player, so i just assumed that it was a newer one |
22:39:12 | [BAMF]Vul | but oh well, no big deal |
22:39:18 | LinusN | it's just like the recorder, where 1.27 is the latest downloadable, but 1.28 is in ROM |
22:39:40 | LinusN | they never use the same version number for the ROM versions |
22:40:11 | [BAMF]Vul | oh ok |
22:40:25 | LinusN | for some reason |
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22:46:21 | DJBaz | hey |
22:46:45 | LinusN | yo |
22:47:09 | DJBaz | whats up? |
22:47:16 | LinusN | coding... |
22:47:28 | DJBaz | o |
22:47:30 | DJBaz | what u coding? |
22:47:45 | LinusN | Xing header generation improvements (VBRFix) |
22:48:00 | DJBaz | ahh |
22:48:02 | DJBaz | nice one |
22:48:43 | DJBaz | when ya have time, an alarm function would be nice :) |
22:48:44 | DJBaz | but no hurry |
22:48:51 | LinusN | hehe |
22:49:39 | DJBaz | hm |
22:49:56 | DJBaz | o yeh, do u know how to use a winmodem with linux... perferebly mandrake 9.1? |
22:50:04 | LinusN | speaking of alarm, how would you want to specify which song/playlist to play? |
22:50:18 | LinusN | it all depends on the winmodem |
22:50:30 | DJBaz | kk, like what chipset it uses yeh? |
22:50:37 | Gissehel | I remember the winmodem FAQ... |
22:50:39 | LinusN | yes |
22:50:42 | Gissehel | it says something like : |
22:50:57 | Gissehel | « Are the winmodem supported under linux ? |
22:50:57 | LinusN | winmodems are not modems |
22:51:00 | Gissehel | - No ! |
22:51:07 | LinusN | :-) |
22:51:09 | Gissehel | Will there be a support one day ? |
22:51:11 | DJBaz | well u know :P |
22:51:13 | Gissehel | - No ! » |
22:51:21 | Gissehel | that was the FAQ |
22:51:21 | DJBaz | anyway |
22:51:44 | LinusN | some manufacturers have released binary drivers for their chipset |
22:51:59 | thu | there are some drivers for winmodems iirc |
22:52:03 | DJBaz | the alarm, i would like to beable to set the time, then select the playlist to play or song(s) |
22:52:08 | thu | I think it was lucent |
22:52:12 | DJBaz | yeh |
22:52:19 | DJBaz | just a pain to get them 2 work though |
22:52:30 | DJBaz | i think ill end up puting linux on ma 400mhz lappy |
22:52:46 | LinusN | i almost got my winmodem to work on my Dell |
22:52:56 | DJBaz | nice |
22:52:59 | LinusN | but i ended up buying a pcmcia modem anyway |
22:53:05 | DJBaz | heh |
22:53:12 | DJBaz | it would be easier just to buy a modem :p |
22:53:13 | LinusN | the damn modem hung up on me all the time |
22:53:22 | DJBaz | :< |
22:53:27 | LinusN | no source code |
22:53:33 | LinusN | f*ck them! |
22:53:39 | DJBaz | heh |
22:54:20 | DJBaz | so about the alarm, my sound selection a good idea? |
22:54:26 | DJBaz | or |
22:54:44 | DJBaz | how about having an 'alarm' folder, and all it plays is the songs in that folder... that would be lame though |
22:55:22 | Gissehel | is there a name that is auto loaded for the .cfg file at boot time ? |
22:55:50 | LinusN | or an ON+Play menu option: "Play on alarm"? |
22:56:11 | LinusN | Gissehel: no |
22:56:13 | DJBaz | yeh LinusN, thats good |
22:56:22 | LinusN | no .cfg file is loaded at boot time |
22:56:52 | Gissehel | is there a technical reason for that ? or is it that no one want that ? |
22:57:04 | Gissehel | because I suppose it would be hard to code... |
22:57:17 | DJBaz | Gissehel technicle reason, LinusN's fingure is up his ass |
22:57:18 | DJBaz | :> |
22:57:26 | Gissehel | :) |
22:57:38 | DJBaz | ;) |
22:58:31 | DJBaz | and another feature... dont know if its been requrested but how about when ya play a song, it gets logged how many times that song has been played so a playlist can be made up automatically with all the songs that are played most withing a giving criteria |
22:58:39 | LinusN | Gissehel: the reasons are historical |
22:59:04 | elinenbe | LinusN: you speak about the receiver on the FM model lik eyou know what is going on... is this foreshadowing? |
22:59:04 | LinusN | the .cfg files are a pretty new feature |
22:59:17 | Gissehel | ha ok |
22:59:29 | Gissehel | I try new rockbox from time to time |
22:59:36 | DJBaz | try? |
22:59:38 | Gissehel | so I didn't know if it was new or not |
22:59:39 | LinusN | elinenbe: i know which chip it is and i know how it is connected |
22:59:48 | elinenbe | LinusN: nice :) |
22:59:57 | elinenbe | LinusN: why the 3 hour limit? |
22:59:58 | LinusN | but i haven't had the time to write any code |
22:59:59 | DJBaz | i never use the archos firmware |
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23:00:10 | DJBaz | better with rockbox |
23:00:22 | LinusN | elinenbe: the MAS stops counting frames after approx 3 hours |
23:00:28 | DJBaz | i only used the archos firmware for 3 days... thats when i first got it |
23:00:59 | LinusN | it has only 20 bits for the frame counter and it doesn't wrap |
23:02:12 | elinenbe | could you implement a wrap counter? |
23:03:01 | Gissehel | don't know if it a requested feature, but one thing that would change rockbox into a god-application would be a file manger with a "commander" like IHM (like {norton,midnight,windows}-commander; with the screen splited in 2 panel in 2 different directory, where you can move, copy, etc...) |
23:03:52 | LinusN | elinenbe: no, that's in the DSP |
23:03:55 | DJBaz | Gissehel that would be good, but isnt the lcd 2 small 2 make it effective? |
23:04:08 | LinusN | Gissehel: write one :-) |
23:04:15 | DJBaz | heh |
23:04:33 | DJBaz | LinusN, what distro u using? |
23:04:34 | Gissehel | LinusN: I was thinging about that ;) but I've too many project in mind :( |
23:04:40 | LinusN | DJBaz: red hat |
23:04:45 | DJBaz | kk |
23:04:59 | LinusN | old habit |
23:05:13 | DJBaz | heh |
23:05:17 | DJBaz | i need a new distro |
23:05:24 | DJBaz | ive got mandrake 9.1 but im on dialup |
23:05:31 | DJBaz | ill have 2 download it at school |
23:06:22 | Hes | LinusN: would the counter be in a MAS register, I thought you could (technically speaking) read/write any of them? |
23:06:23 | elinenbe | LinusN: is it impossible to get to that info, you couldn't do it externally? |
23:06:38 | Hes | saw loads of funny counters in the register debug view when i wrote that |
23:07:29 | elinenbe | Hes: "funny coutners" are just there for laughs |
23:07:38 | LinusN | Hes: yes i can, but i'm not sure about when to reset it |
23:08:09 | LinusN | i would have to read the register and reset it when it reaches fffff |
23:08:44 | LinusN | but i'm not sure how to make sure that i write it in a "safe" time slot |
23:08:51 | Hes | right. |
23:09:21 | LinusN | and i would have to read the damn register really often, making the peak meters look like sh*t |
23:09:47 | elinenbe | LinusN: would it have been much easier if it just recorderd in CBR? |
23:09:54 | Hes | I was thinking of, like, brutally resetting the counter at some not-so-scientifically-determined point in time before it reaches fff... |
23:10:06 | Hes | and cleaning up the mess later. |
23:10:08 | LinusN | elinenbe: yup, CBR would be nice |
23:10:49 | DJBaz | brb |
23:10:54 | DJBaz | gonna install mandrake |
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23:11:16 | LinusN | Hes: maybe, but i'm not too fond of messing with the mas like that |
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23:11:20 | OnoSendai | yo |
23:11:30 | LinusN | yo |
23:12:15 | Hes | i can see why. 8-) |
23:12:19 | LinusN | i guess encoding VBR is easier for the DSP |
23:13:16 | elinenbe | I think you will figure out a way qround VBRFix −− that seems like such a messy solution currently (from an end user standpoint) |
23:13:33 | OnoSendai | when exactly are we supposed to use that? i can't find doco |
23:14:00 | Hes | just my 2 cents before bedtime. Good night! |
23:14:01 | LinusN | elinenbe: as long as the recordings are short enough, you don't need VBRFix |
23:14:02 | OnoSendai | to fix VBR Xing headers... ? |
23:14:08 | LinusN | OnoSendai: yes |
23:14:27 | OnoSendai | so if i use LAME.. then i have no worries right ? |
23:14:54 | LinusN | you normally only worry about the recordings you make with the jukebox |
23:15:16 | OnoSendai | ah... |
23:15:21 | OnoSendai | : ) thanks |
23:23:32 | elinenbe | LinusN: there can never be enough splash()... |
23:27:22 | LinusN | splash() bugs hard when it needs to wrap the text |
23:27:29 | LinusN | but i'll let Daniel fix that |
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23:34:02 | LinusN | hi Zagor |
23:36:00 | adi|work | lol |
23:36:01 | adi|work | :) |
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23:47:11 | LinusN | Hes: i just tried, the mas won't let me write to that location |
23:51:48 | Zagor | hi LinusN |
23:51:58 | Zagor | found a weird bug in bash |
23:52:20 | Zagor | "grep string *" takes a lot longer than "ls | xargs fgrep string" |
23:53:00 | LinusN | weird |
23:53:20 | LinusN | Zagor: i had a great idea today |
23:53:27 | Zagor | doom? ;) |
23:54:02 | LinusN | i realized that i could make use of the MAS frame counter as long as the recording is shorter than 3 hours |
23:54:24 | Zagor | yeah, I saw in the commit. very nice. |
23:54:26 | LinusN | that way i can have a correct frame count in the xing header |
23:58:34 | LinusN | silly MAS |